The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Dave W on November 05, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
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Fallout Bass launch edition (http://glguitars.com/product/fallout-bass-launch-edition/) (with video)
Very Competition Mustang looking. Could give the Mustang some real competition. This is Made in Fullerton, pricing not announced yet as far as I can tell.
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Looks like someone found Leo's templates!
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All of a sudden everybody's got a shorty with a single middle humbucker! I am perfectly fine with this being a trend :)
What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
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All of a sudden everybody's got a shorty with a single middle humbucker! I am perfectly fine with this being a trend :)
What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
It should be overwhelming bass. At least it was on my 1000.
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That's pretty nifty. I lean toward green, but I think I like blue the best.
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What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
Sounds like humbucker in series.
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Just what I need...another nice short scale to have GAS for. aaarrrgh.
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OMG, you guys! :mrgreen:
There's a lot of confusion about the OMG position. It puts the coils in series with a .1uF capacitor that severely cuts the highs. Big volume bump over the other positions plus an apparent bass boost that's really a treble cut. On top of that, the controls are Volume, Treble and Bass. The Treble is your common passive tone control, the Bass control is a 1 meg reverse audio taper bass cut control. Turning it up gives the sensation of even more bass.
Definitely one of Leo's own templates. It's the same shape as the G&L SC-2 guitar from the early 80s. The Fallout guitar has been around for 5 or 6 years.
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I love the yellow one!
BTW: this one has volume/tone only
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I love the yellow one!
BTW: this one has volume/tone only
All the Fallout models shown have only volume and tone, I should have looked more closely. My comments about the passive bass cut control apply to the L-1000 controls, but the three-way circuit switching should be the same on the L-1000 and the Fallout.
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I thought you talked about the L-1000 controls, but I thought it would be good to mention this. Your information is always thouroughly researched. I used some ot what you wrote above here for my news item about the G&L, so thanks!
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I also like the yellow one. I wonder who's next? Rickenbacker releasing a serial production shortscale model for the first time in ages?
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Godin has a nice one, Fender/Squier has five or six different Mustangs. There are hollowbodies here and there, maybe a US Epi Rivoli soon. All cool!
Rick: I won't hold my breath but you never know.
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Just what I need...another nice short scale to have GAS for. aaarrrgh.
I feel your pain. :-\
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I thought you talked about the L-1000 controls, but I thought it would be good to mention this. Your information is always thouroughly researched. I used some ot what you wrote above here for my news item about the G&L, so thanks!
There has been some confusion about the OMG position, and there may have been circuit variations over the years. There are G&L experts who know much more than I do.
The early instruction sheet for the switch called it “Single Coil mode plus added bass boost” but as far as I can tell, it was never single coil in the OMG position. Even in early examples that have been tested, the DCR in OMG mode is twice the DCR in single coil mode (center switch position), and there's no hum. It was later shown in a schematic as "series humbucking with .1uf capacitor."
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Last NAMM I asked the G&L guys if a cheaper tribute version would be released: the guy nodded YES very happy and said, with some diplomacy: I can't day anything :mrgreen:
Well, it's here:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FalloutSSSG--g-and-l-tribute-fallout-short-scale-bass-guitar-surf-green
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I like that. It looks like something that would be fun to play.
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That's a lot more reasonable, especially with the MFD humbucker.
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I like that green one!
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I really love what G&L is doing, both US and Tribute.
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G&L carry on the tradition , but a lot of their basses tend to be on the heavy side , and I found the pickups too hot . Even run passive .
I know that's a weird thing to complain about .
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My L-1000 (passive) is only about 8 lbs. The MFD humbucker is very hot. Not as hot as a Gibson mudbucker, but still one of the hotter bass pickups out there.
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I have the Tribute premium L2500 , early Korean made , it's a surprisingly well made bass . Pickups are ungodly hot .
I wanted to get used to a five string , and then decided I was pretty much an old school four string guy . Rarely play it , really should move it .
I seem to prefer lightweight shortscales these days , I'd love to try a Fallout , unfortunately I don't see much G&L around Halifax .
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Hot like loud and more lows/mids than highs?
I see this thing has a series/parallel/split switch, does it make a big difference?
I like the white one.
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I have a Warwick with MM-humbuckers with this switch and I recently tried an older G&L of a friend with a similar switch.
It's very useful. Because of the woods, construction, etc. the vibe of the sound of the bass stays fairly the same in the three positions. In single coil modus - especially with two piickups - you can get more into a J-bass kinda vibe. Playing solo the nuances between series and parallel are small, with series being louder. For a while I played in a duo with the other person playing guitar or piano. While retaining the same sound, I doscovered parallel blended in better with her guitar and series with the piano. It's just some extra tools to use.
I think parallel gives a bit of a tighter sound and series a bit rounder and wilder.
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Hot like loud and more lows/mids than highs?
I see this thing has a series/parallel/split switch, does it make a big difference?
G&L MFD pickups just have ungodly output overall. It's an even tone. If I had to describe it to someone who plays but had never played a G&L I would say that they sound like an early active Precision from the 80's. The Magnetic Field Design pickups don't roll off the high end like a Gibby mudbucker. Most G&L's with the MFD humbuckers have an onboard preamp, but all it does is brighten the tone a bit. I've never noticed much difference in level when I toggle it in. The switch for it is passive/active/active with treble boost. The difference between active and active with treble boost is noticeable, but not as much as you might think. "Plain" active adds almost as much high end. (Note that this will vary TREMENDOUSLY depending on your amp's input stage. I use tube amps with high input impedance that is naturally brighter overall and more sensitive in general.) Parallel switched mode tames the volume and tone somewhat. Series is fatter and louder. My G&L's don't have a split switch; it's just series or parallel.
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Oops, yes. The G&L doesn't have the series/parralel/single switch like Music Man and Warwick. My bad.
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The L1000's switch has three positions: series, parallel and the so-called OMG mode. Some people think it's a bass boost, but the bass is passive. It's actually a .1uf cap across one of the pickup coils, which sends a lot of high end to ground. The other coil is still full frequency. So it's dual coil but not humbucking since the coils aren't equal. There's hum but it's minimal, at least to my ears. The output is still massive.
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Oh that's interesting, sounds like OMG mode is electronically similar to the "tap" on the recent Gibson DC tribute? Somebody (I forget who) looked inside and said it put a cap on one of the coils rather than disabling it entirely.
Doesn't sound much like the OMG clips I've heard in demos of the G & L; the DC in "tapped" mode sounds brighter to me. but that's not surprising ... different pickup, different bass, likely different cap...
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Oh that's interesting, sounds like OMG mode is electronically similar to the "tap" on the recent Gibson DC tribute? Somebody (I forget who) looked inside and said it put a cap on one of the coils rather than disabling it entirely.
Doesn't sound much like the OMG clips I've heard in demos of the G & L; the DC in "tapped" mode sounds brighter to me. but that's not surprising ... different pickup, different bass, likely different cap...
The L1000 sounds noticeably different in each switch position.
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I returned the Gibson NonRev, as you know, so I got my money back. I could get a great offer on a G&L Tribute Fallout, so that one followed me home, yesterday.
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There’s a lot of love for those.
Great bass.
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Pics or it didn't happen!
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Haven't played a Fallout yet due to no need for a short scale bass but the Tribute version is quite popular and I am a fan of G&L basses so who knows what tomorrow may bring.