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Title: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: lowend1 on January 28, 2016, 05:33:55 PM
...and another
http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Jefferson-Airplane-s-Paul-Kantner-dies-at-74-6791483.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Nocturnal on January 28, 2016, 09:36:42 PM
RIP Paul.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Alanko on January 29, 2016, 06:38:44 AM
RIP. This year is felling rock stars.  :sad:
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Post by: Highlander on January 29, 2016, 12:14:25 PM
No one here gets out alive... rip
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 29, 2016, 02:02:35 PM
That's a shame. It's too bad he and Lemmy couldn't cut down on the smoking. Not to be insensitive but every time I saw those guys doing interviews, they were always puffing on a heater. Hopefully that's something those of us left behind can learn from.
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Post by: nofi on January 29, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
kantner had a stroke about thirty years ago. i guess he never learned.
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Post by: Denis on January 29, 2016, 07:47:45 PM
Shit, he made it to 74 anyway...
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Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
That's a shame. It's too bad he and Lemmy couldn't cut down on the smoking. Not to be insensitive but every time I saw those guys doing interviews, they were always puffing on a heater. Hopefully that's something those of us left behind can learn from.

kantner had a stroke about thirty years ago. i guess he never learned.

Shit, he made it to 74 anyway...

I lost a longtime friend just after Christmas 2014. Great guy who loved helping his friends and family. But he tried so hard to quit smoking for years and he just couldn't do it. Had a blood clot removed from his brain in the late 90s, still couldn't stop for long. Got pneumonia for about the fourth time in five years and that was it. Hard for me to understand since I quit cold turkey in 1998. He made it to 73 but I sure wish he could have made it longer.

It is a shame about Paul Kantner and Lemmy. If neither of them wanted to quit and convinced themselves it would never happen to them, well, what can you say? But if not, I'm not going to say they never learned. Maybe, maybe not. We can't know what struggles other people are going through.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Denis on January 30, 2016, 05:40:00 AM
Some people can quit most anything cold turkey, others really struggle. It's not really a fault as much as it is a misfortune.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Hörnisse on January 30, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
http://classicrock.teamrock.com/features/2016-01-30/ten-moments-of-genius-from-paul-kantner
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: gweimer on January 31, 2016, 05:48:55 AM
Another update.  I just read that original singer Signe Anderson died on the same day as Paul Kantner.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2016, 11:20:38 PM
Another update.  I just read that original singer Signe Anderson died on the same day as Paul Kantner.

I saw that. What are the odds?
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: westen44 on February 01, 2016, 12:55:55 AM
I saw that. What are the odds?

About the same as Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both dying on July 4, 1826. 

However, I hardly even know what to say anymore about all these rock stars dying so close together.  The words fail me now. 
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: gweimer on February 01, 2016, 03:57:32 AM
We're all getting to that age.  Another factor is the fact that research shows that people will hang on to life until an event or holiday.  So, it may be that January is a tough month due to a lot of people waiting to see one more new year come in.  Bowie died right after his birthday.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: westen44 on February 01, 2016, 05:25:13 AM
We're all getting to that age.  Another factor is the fact that research shows that people will hang on to life until an event or holiday.  So, it may be that January is a tough month due to a lot of people waiting to see one more new year come in.  Bowie died right after his birthday.

Lemmy's birthday was on Christmas Eve.  Then I think he died on the 28th. 
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: gearHed289 on February 01, 2016, 09:24:39 AM
I saw that. What are the odds?

John Entwistle and Chris Squire both died on June 27.  :sad:

RIP Paul Kantner. Saw Jefferson Starship once in late '79, and they were really great. No Marty or Grace at that time. The "Jane" tour.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: slinkp on February 01, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
The Airplane really had a unique sound all their own. I know plenty of people seem to hate them. Maybe because they had a very dense, unruly sound - lots going on, plenty of competition for space, pretty chaotic, at least in the live recordings, and for some peoples' taste that just sounds like a mess - or maybe they just don't like Grace Slick, whose voice can be polarizing - but I always thought the surface chaos belied real serious musicians who really listened to each other (Slick included), in their own idiosyncratic way. The Monterey Pop clips were a great intro.  I wish there were more bands who forge their own path as much as the Airplane did.

There was a good biopic about them that I saw some years ago.  Maybe this one?  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427256/
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: westen44 on February 01, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
The Airplane really had a unique sound all their own. I know plenty of people seem to hate them. Maybe because they had a very dense, unruly sound - lots going on, plenty of competition for space, pretty chaotic, at least in the live recordings, and for some peoples' taste that just sounds like a mess - or maybe they just don't like Grace Slick, whose voice can be polarizing - but I always thought the surface chaos belied real serious musicians who really listened to each other (Slick included), in their own idiosyncratic way. The Monterey Pop clips were a great intro.  I wish there were more bands who forge their own path as much as the Airplane did.

There was a good biopic about them that I saw some years ago.  Maybe this one?  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427256/

I never understood the dislike for them, either.  Even Hendrix didn't like them, although of course he did like Jack Casady. 
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Dave W on February 01, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
I saw them once, worst show I ever saw. We were there for the opening act and made the mistake of staying. I didn't hate them, though I probably had nightmares about having to listen to grace Slick.

Like any band, they had their admirers and detractors.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: westen44 on February 01, 2016, 02:10:47 PM
I liked "Surrealistic Pillow" but not "After Bathing at Baxter's" so much.  That ends my vinyl collection of Jefferson Airplane.  But one of my friends loves the next album "Crown of Creation."  He is the kind of person who is a fanatic about woodshedding, something he is probably doing right now.  It shows when he plays bass, too. 
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: leftybass on February 01, 2016, 02:51:35 PM
The Airplane really had a unique sound all their own. I know plenty of people seem to hate them. Maybe because they had a very dense, unruly sound - lots going on, plenty of competition for space, pretty chaotic, at least in the live recordings, and for some peoples' taste that just sounds like a mess - or maybe they just don't like Grace Slick, whose voice can be polarizing - but I always thought the surface chaos belied real serious musicians who really listened to each other (Slick included), in their own idiosyncratic way. The Monterey Pop clips were a great intro.  I wish there were more bands who forge their own path as much as the Airplane did.

There was a good biopic about them that I saw some years ago.  Maybe this one?  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427256/

I've had that DVD for awhile, watched it again over the weekend.
Title: Re: Paul Kantner RIP
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
About the same as Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both dying on July 4, 1826. 

However, I hardly even know what to say anymore about all these rock stars dying so close together.  The words fail me now.
:mrgreen: