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Your bass philosophy
« on: October 27, 2010, 04:55:28 PM »
i 'borrowed' this quote from another forum but it sums up my approach just about perfectly.

"your primary role is to serve the song and be beautifully anonymous in it".
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 06:33:18 PM »
That may be a fine rule of thumb for a session guy but I'm sure Jack Bruce would say F that!

What I love to hear is a good HEAVY bassline that is either the backbone of the song or perfectly complements the guitar.
That's what I'm reaching for in my playing.

There are usually some good tips in Bass Player magazine.
One guy in there was talking about how when the band is grooving in 4 time & the drummer trips out for awhile in 3 time it's tempting to follow him into 3 but if you stick to 4 it's probly gonna turn out better.

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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 06:54:23 PM »

 Soldier..................

 In the 4 1/2 hours of music that we rotate thru for various venues there isn't anything that even remotely gives me the chance to shine, I downstroke 8ths and 16ths all night long. There are a couple i.e. "White Wedding" by Billy Idol that intro with just bass and drums tho.
 However I do not stand around and look at my shoes - I'm a big girl at 6'3" in my black platform boots and I enjoy moving around onstage quite alot so that make up for it a little  ;)
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 07:39:47 PM »
Every situation is different. Play to the situation.
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 08:02:45 PM »
My philosophy is simple:  Always practice at least 1 hour on the day of the gig.  Keeps everything fresh in your mind.

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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 08:48:19 PM »

"your primary role is to serve the song and be beautifully anonymous in it".

That hits pretty close to how I feel.  However, I should note that "anonymous" doesn't mean the same thing as "unnoticed".  Think about numbers like "Time is Tight" and "Green Onions" (two of my faves) in which the bass leads the music - but it needs to be smooth and integral.  That doesn't mean it doesn't take a lead role.  I feel the same way about "The Peter Gunn Theme"....that simple bass line holds the entire number together, and if you ask people to sing it, they will always come up up with the bass line first.
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 01:38:13 AM »
Play what you play with conviction, whether it is simple or elaborate.

And learn to play some thirds!  :mrgreen:
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 02:56:53 AM »
there's a time and place for every style.  I just try not to over play.  I  hate that.

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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 05:47:13 AM »
i 'borrowed' this quote from another forum but it sums up my approach just about perfectly.

"your primary role is to serve the song and be beautifully anonymous in it".

I like that quote ;D.
I view the bass as the foundation. I guess I'm a bit picky as to what kind of music I'm playing too. I tend to go for blues and jazz or anything that has a walking groove to it. Stuff with multiple chord changes that are only tied together by creshendos and accents provide little opportunity for a walking line and turn the bass into a shadow of the guitar, playing single root notes. I can only handle stuff like that in small doses.
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 08:06:17 AM »
I was just listening to Nilsson's "Jump Into the Fire".  Anonymous but wonderfully foundational bass line!  Iconic, even.  (BTW--this is the long version...listen to it about 3:00 in where the bass line moves downdowndowndowndown to one of the lowest notes I've heard.  Happens again around 4:50.)




AH!  Just checked Nilsson on Wikipedia and found this interesting info......"The third single, "Jump into the Fire", was raucous, screaming rock and roll, including a drum solo by Derek and the Dominos' Jim Gordon and a bass detuning by Herbie Flowers. The song was famously used during the "Sunday, May 11, 1980", sequence in the film Goodfellas".
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 08:11:30 AM »
Every situation is different. Play to the situation.

+1.   Play to the situation.  Bass in a power trio is a lot different than a jam band or a top 40 gig.  A lot depends on the drummer......
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 10:34:33 AM »
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 10:53:56 AM »
Take a deep breath, and hang on for dear life.  Anything can, and will, happen.
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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 11:59:18 AM »
Soldier..................

 In the 4 1/2 hours of music that we rotate thru for various venues there isn't anything that even remotely gives me the chance to shine, I downstroke 8ths and 16ths all night long. There are a couple i.e. "White Wedding" by Billy Idol that intro with just bass and drums tho.
 However I do not stand around and look at my shoes - I'm a big girl at 6'3" in my black platform boots and I enjoy moving around onstage quite alot so that make up for it a little  ;)

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Re: Your bass philosophy
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 12:30:36 PM »
aren't you worried that someone may see up your skirt   :-*

Hell no, he hopes they will!  :mrgreen: