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Dave W

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A threat from Steinway
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:24:33 PM »
Steinway & Sons Threatens Legal Action Against Owners of its Pianos

Steinway's attorney's are trying to prevent owners of used Steinways from calling them Steinways if they have been repaired or rebuilt with any non-Steinway parts.  Can you imagine the ramifications if guitar and bass manufacturers tried to prevent you from advertising your brand name instrument if it had aftermarket electronics or hardware?
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 04:18:19 AM »
A totally ridiculous stance.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 07:13:58 AM »
I did not realise it was possible to out-Ric Rickenbacker as regards pedantic trademark protectionism, but live and learn.

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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 08:54:31 AM »
It sounds crazy, but then so does paying hundreds of thousands for an instrument.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 11:27:02 AM »
That makes as little sense as Ford suing to have the nameplates of a vehicle removed if the owner customizes it or swaps engines. Reee-dickle-yus-ness.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 12:39:55 PM »
Quote from: Pilgrim on January 10, 2019, 11:27:02 AM
That makes as little sense as Ford suing to have the nameplates of a vehicle removed if the owner customizes it or swaps engines. Reee-dickle-yus-ness.

LOL or installs aftermarket floor mats.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 01:12:39 PM »
I think the only thing wackier is anyone going into the new and used Steinway business. Not exactly a line that will experience growth.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 07:09:08 PM »
Quote from: eb2 on January 10, 2019, 01:12:39 PM
I think the only thing wackier is anyone going into the new and used Steinway business. Not exactly a line that will experience growth.

...but there's always that 60-80% profit margin to offset the risk.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 10:17:00 PM »
Rickenbacker has been able to get away with their eBay tactics b/c no one with a cheap Ric copy is going to spend the time and money to challenge them. If you own a Ric copy, it's absolutely legal for you to sell it and to call it a copy of a Rickenbacker.

If Steinway chooses to pursue this in the marketplace, it's a lot more serious. It's not a question of a copy, it's about being able to describe a real Steinway as being real.  A dealer could challenge it but Steinway could cancel a dealership agreement. They can't be allowed to get away with it. If they try, hopefully some state attorney general will intervene, or maybe a lawsuit in a state with a good SLAPP statute.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 06:18:08 PM »
Quote from: Dave W on January 09, 2019, 10:24:33 PM
Can you imagine the ramifications if guitar and bass manufacturers tried to prevent you from advertising your brand name instrument if it had aftermarket electronics or hardware?

Never mind that. After a few years, your car would probably have fifty nameplates on it.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2019, 08:09:17 AM »
I was unaware that Rickenbacker had bought a piano outfit. Must go out more often.
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Re: A threat from Steinway
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2019, 02:24:15 PM »
It's the angry piano department.
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