The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: westen44 on January 31, 2013, 10:09:57 AM
-
Does anyone know if they are planning to make any SG RI basses also in long scale? I have an American friend living in Denmark who has heard a rumor about this. He would buy two immediately if such a thing as an SG RI 34 inch bass existed. I've looked on the Internet and found nothing about this.
-
The rumor comes from a remark made by the Gibson salesman at NAMM just after the 2:40 remark in this video. I've seen nothing else about it anywhere. Uwe wondered if he might have been referring to the Epi EB-3; seems unlikely though, since he's only been talking about the Gibson brand. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEf_ie0dvQ
-
Rückkehr des SG-Z ...
With proper pups this time.
-
The rumor comes from a remark made by the Gibson salesman at NAMM just after the 2:40 remark in this video. I've seen nothing else about it anywhere. Uwe wondered if he might have been referring to the Epi EB-3; seems unlikely though, since he's only been talking about the Gibson brand. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEf_ie0dvQ
I checked and that's where he heard it. Certainly, he is taking the guy at his word and really wants a long scale SG RI; that's for sure. I'd say it's GAS and beyond.
-
He's saying, "We got the long scale (all the other basses), we got the short scale SG bass." He's just recapping the lineup, NOT referencing a long scale SG.
-
Of course, they could...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/Basses/97_SGBassII.jpg)
-
He's saying, "We got the long scale (all the other basses), we got the short scale SG bass." He's just recapping the lineup, NOT referencing a long scale SG.
Go back and listen again. He says "we got here the SG Standard bass, once again classic SG Bass that you know and you love, we got it in long scale, we got it short scale, we got that nice cherry as well..."
Despite that, I won't believe it unless I see something official. He's excited and trying to cover a lot of ground in three minutes, so we can't take this as any kind of confirmation.
-
Of course, they could...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/Basses/97_SGBassII.jpg)
I'd buy that.
-
I'd buy that.
If you did, you'd be disappointed in the tone.
-
I guess the G-3 did not stand a chance. Thats the one that interests me. Uwe should have his by now.
-
No, he wouldn't (be disappointed I mean)! Because that is a picture not of a lame SG-Z, but of George's former one-off SG Bass built in the late nineties (not by the Custom Shop though) with a fat Les Paul Standard neck, a fatter body than the SG-Zs (or the SG Standards/RIs of today) and not Z-pups, but (chrome or even nickel) TB Plus pups. It sounds as forceful as a Les Paul Standard with lots of oooomph. I should know because I talked George into selling it to me! The only drawback to this bass is that it has nothing of the lightness, sleekness and playability of a sixties EB-0 or -3, it's a chunker of an instrument, even more massive than the maple neck seventies EB-0L or -3L. More RD than SG!
To bring some light into this matter, I have asked my Gibson contact about this mysterious SG long scale.
-
George's former one-off SG Bass built in the late nineties (not by the Custom Shop though) with a fat Les Paul Standard neck, a fatter body than the SG-Zs (or the SG Standards/RIs of today) and not Z-pups, but (chrome or even nickel) TB Plus pups.
I'd hit something that for sure.
-
Sorry, I glanced at it and thought it was the lame SG-Z. The chrome, three-point and lack of a pickguard should have been dead giveaways.
-
A long scale EB3 isn't as unlikely as it may seem. Epiphone has been making them for years.
-
It'll never balance though, but then non-neck-heavy basses are for girls anyway. With all due respect to Fräulein Mark of course who is Kramer-alu-neck schooled I believe.
-
Gibsons are not known for their balance.
-
And it's not a bad bass for 299.00 I actually like them.
A long scale EB3 isn't as unlikely as it may seem. Epiphone has been making them for years.
-
Gibsons are not known for their balance.
I like to be imbalanced.
-
I'm known for it, so I'm told by my analyst; don't believe a word of , mind you...
-
It'll never balance though, but then non-neck-heavy basses are for girls anyway. With all due respect to Fräulein Mark of course who is Kramer-alu-neck schooled I believe.
When it comes to the SG-body, I shall remain a neck-heavy-bass-free zone! :P My one foray into EB-3 territory ended after ONE practice. Wrestling the neck and balance on that thing for three hours just once convinced me that someone else needed to give a home to that bass.
-
When it comes to the SG-body, I shall remain a neck-heavy-bass-free zone! :P My one foray into EB-3 territory ended after ONE practice. Wrestling the neck and balance on that thing for three hours just once convinced me that someone else needed to give a home to that bass.
But are you talking about Epiphone or Gibson? Several years ago I tested a 60s Gibson EB-0 side by side with an Epi EB-0. the Epi had a lot of neck dive, the Gibson had none at all.
-
But are you talking about Epiphone or Gibson? Several years ago I tested a 60s Gibson EB-0 side by side with an Epi EB-0. the Epi had a lot of neck dive, the Gibson had none at all.
Good point - it was the Epi. However, the simple answer for me is stay with the 30" scale SG basses.
-
Good point - it was the Epi. However, the simple answer for me is stay with the 30" scale SG basses.
I'm expecting neck dive on an Epi. But after reading some of the comments on this thread, it seems to me than a mere $300 for an Epi EB-3 may be worth it, not that that's what this topic is supposed to be about. I started it about SG scale length. But some of the other comments have interested me quite a lot. To elaborate a little on this--the guy who was asking about the possibility of an SG RI long scale has played Gibsons for years. I don't even know what all he has. But a lot. He is quite an experienced and accomplished bassist, just like a lot of other people on here. However, for whatever reason, he does seem to have preference for the SG body. He had a Gibson EB-3 long scale for years, but sold that not long ago. Probably didn't like the pick ups. He has various other Gibsons--like I said--but keeps coming back to a modest Epi EB-3 as a beater bass. The bottom line, obviously, is that some people (including myself) might be interested in an SG RI long scale.
-
Fair enough. Just don't count me in.
-
I want an SG body bass doublenecked!!! Long scale fretless and short scale fretted with the D and the G doubled on octave strings. Is that asking too much? It may even be neck-heavy ...
-
I could go for a 35 inch SG body 8 string bass. In fact, I would even settle for a 30.5 inch or 34 inch in that. I'd also like a bass with the automatic Hendrix tuning like the guitar Henry was demonstrating the other day.
-
I want an SG body bass doublenecked!!! Long scale fretless and short scale fretted with the D and the G doubled on octave strings. Is that asking too much? I may even be neck-heavy ...
You'd have to learn to play it from underneath the treble side while the headstocks were pointing almost straight to the floor.
-
You'd have to learn to play it from underneath the treble side while the headstocks were pointing almost straight to the floor.
It could be a new style! The upside-down doubleneck!
-
I want an SG body bass doublenecked!!! Long scale fretless and short scale fretted with the D and the G doubled on octave strings. Is that asking too much? It may even be neck-heavy ...
:o
-
You'd have to learn to play it from underneath the treble side while the headstocks were pointing almost straight to the floor.
I'm trying to imagine that. Pretty funny, actually. Yet, Rinus Gerritsen's double neck is kind of strange and it's something for real. I never could understand why he was so interested in continuing to play that thing. Yet, he's the famous guy, so he must have been doing something right. Certainly, it would take a lot of dedication to put up with something which--at least to me--appears to be unwieldy.