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Title: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
"former" rules you out, Mark!  :mrgreen:

(http://www.legendaryrockinterviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Jackie-Fox-ROCK-POSE-297x300.jpg)

Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: Dave W on December 11, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
Especially if a member of the legal profession.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: TBird1958 on December 11, 2012, 05:03:15 PM
"former" rules you out, Mark!  :mrgreen:

(http://www.legendaryrockinterviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Jackie-Fox-ROCK-POSE-297x300.jpg)





 "Former" does rule me out  ;)

All props to Miss Fox!


Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2012, 05:23:41 PM
Der Fuchs ist ein scheues Tier.

(http://data1.lustich.de/bilder/l/18613-fuchs-im-schnee.jpg)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1rhf0ednT1qarltvo1_1280.png?)
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: TBird1958 on December 11, 2012, 06:48:22 PM


 White Thunderbirds and girls................Real or not  ;)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/jackiefox.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/7CedarsMarch201223of100.jpg)
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: gweimer on December 11, 2012, 07:02:49 PM
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Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: fur85 on December 11, 2012, 08:19:19 PM
Do we know that Ms. Fuchs qualifies as a "former" Thunderbird player?
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2012, 05:22:49 AM
We are in dire need of pictorial evidence to the contrary at least. The original Donnervogel fell victim during operations in the Japanese theater - which have gone down in history as the Lunaways Laid! (No innuendo intended!!!)


Looking at the pics in this thread I just realized that Ms Fuchs was not playing a Bicentennial as I had always assumed (given the proximity of the release of those and the Runaways making international news), but a 60ies Bird. Ouch, that makes the Japanese incident even more severe!

"I left the band at the end of our Japanese tour in June 1977 when my 1965 Gibson Thunderbird bass (a very rare, beautiful bass even in 1977) broke and I realized it hadn't been insured and that nobody was taking care of us. I was already at that point sick of all the fighting so it didn't take that much to push me over the edge. I was only 17 at the time!!"

Bad boy Fowley could have at least bought her a Bicentennial as a replacement!

 

Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: Basvarken on December 12, 2012, 07:59:45 AM
Why is Ri
t
chie Blackmore not mentioned in this thread? :popcorn:
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2012, 08:41:55 AM
Because it's a Jackie Fox, not a Lita Ford thread. You always mix up things, Rob. But to appease you, we'll mention Thin Lizzy:

"Jeb: You’ve been around some pretty good guitar players. Who taught you the most? Was it Ritchie Blackmore, Eddie Van Halen or someone else?

Lita: Ritchie Blackmore taught me how to crack an egg with one hand. Billy Sheehan taught me how to get the last drop of toothpaste out a toothpaste tube. You can roll it up and squeeze every last drop of toothpaste out of it.

I got to jam with quite a few people but I never sat down and had guitar lessons from people. I used to just pick stuff up off of my albums. I would listen to UFO and play “Lights Out” or Thin Lizzy’s “The Boys are Back in Town.” I would just sit and play it."


"Ford’s earliest musical influences included Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. As far as Deep Purple was concerned, she said “I loved the whole band and Ritchie Blackmore was my idol when I was first playing guitar.”"

Good girrrrl!

Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: Pilgrim on December 12, 2012, 08:48:01 AM
I happened to find Jackie Fox's Facebook page...interesting that she's an '88 grad of UCLA and a '91 graduate of Harvard law and is now an attorney in Los Angeles.

http://www.facebook.com/jackie.fox.5492

Also she unfortunately suffers from fibromyalgia.  That would make bass playing rather difficult, which is an extreme bummer for such a talented musician.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: gweimer on December 12, 2012, 04:55:14 PM
Ruh-roh.  TWO lawyers in the fold.  And Gibson fans to boot.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: TBird1958 on December 12, 2012, 05:37:38 PM

 Well, I don't know if our latest member is *the* Miss Fox.......

But I certainly hope so!  :)

We're honored.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: OldManC on December 12, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
I traded messages over the course of a few weeks with Ms. Fuchs in 2007 or so. When I was a kid I worked with a woman who told me she was her aunt (married to Jackie's maternal uncle, if I remember correctly). One day I saw Jackie's profile on MySpace and sent a note asking if she was in contact with my old friend, and she tracked her down and passed on my information as well recounting a tiny bit about her leaving the Runaways to go to school. She was very gracious, indulging some nut on MySpace asking her about old (and, it turned out, former) relative.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: nofi on December 13, 2012, 06:59:47 AM
so lita likes ritchie. kind of a slap in the face for blackmore. ;D
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2012, 07:31:52 AM
I sure prefer her guitar playing to the endless bar chording up and down the neck so prevalent today. She has drama and taste in her playing and it's not just one hazy blur.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: gweimer on December 13, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
I sure prefer her guitar playing to the endless bar chording up and down the neck so prevalent today. She has drama and taste in her playing and it's not just one hazy blur.

I saw a couple of her shows before she broke out, and she was not only really good, but she put on a full show for a small crowd.  I've always liked her after that.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 14, 2012, 03:06:08 AM
Let's face it, most women, musical as they may be, don't ever bother to learn lead guitar and stick to strumming rhythm. I always wonder why that is. Is playing single notes in a semblance of melody on a fretboard so inherently male, pelvic-thrusty and penetrating still? Female hand coordination/motoric capabilities are generally superior to those of men, shouldn't there be a whole bunch of Edwina van Halens? May that athletic "faster-louder-more notes"-thing doesn't appeal to them, but then there aren't too many Marcia Knopflers around either. That women generally don't feel attracted to musicall improvisation might be another reason, but then how many male lead guitarists you know and play with get carried away in frenzied inspiration of Jimi Hendrix ilk? I always end up playing with guitarists that need to be coerced into playing longer than 8 bar solos (and not always play it the same).  

With female lead guitar playing being in the sorry state it is quantity-wise, I'm happy for any chick picking a few notes, be it Lita Ford or Bonnie Raitt or that smooth guitar jazz dame whose name escapes me right now ... EDIT: Joyce Cooling!
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: gweimer on December 14, 2012, 06:47:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQK9RpOloc
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: Pilgrim on December 14, 2012, 06:48:37 AM
Let's face it, most women, musical as they may be, don't ever bother to learn lead guitar and stick to strumming rhythm. I always wonder why that is. Is playing single notes in a semblance of melody on a fretboard so inherently male, pelvic-thrusty and penetrating still? Female hand coordination/motoric capabilities are generally superior to those of men, shouldn't there be a whole bunch of Edwina van Halens? May that athletic "faster-louder-more notes"-thing doesn't appeal to them, but then there aren't too many Marcia Knopflers around either. That women generally don't feel attracted to musicall improvisation might be another reason, but then how many male lead guitarists you know and play with get carried away in frenzied inspiration of Jimi Hendrix ilk? I always end up playing with guitarists that need to be coerced into playing longer than 8 bar solos (and not always play it the same).  

With female lead guitar playing being in the sorry state it is quantity-wise, I'm happy for any chick picking a few notes, be it Lita Ford or Bonnie Raitt or that smooth guitar jazz dame whose name escapes me right now ... EDIT: Joyce Cooling!

As a bass player - which I don't think of as a "front" instrument, at least the way I play, I'm not bothered by anyone who feels it unnecessary to take the lead role.  There's a necessary balance to music, and we all have our parts to play (pun intended).

I don't know how the statistics on balance between lead and support musicians works out for women, but there are certainly exceptions - the first who comes to mind is Nancy Wilson (because I'm a Washington guy and they're out of Seattle.)  There are many others in rock, country and blues.  Bonnie Raitt is a notable musician as well, and there are and have been numerous female rock bands.

Not a big deal either way to me, as I listen for the music.  Interesting observation, though.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 14, 2012, 07:01:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBxsODC4Szg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7b-_YcACuQ

Those ladies can shred.
Title: Re: I wish we had more former Thunderbird playeresses here as members ...
Post by: uwe on December 14, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
Sure they can, but there is too few of them! Or too many if you think that guitar wanking is bad irrespective of gender.