Babybird has come home to roost.

[godofthunder]

I called the HOG and told Kurt to hold the next one in for me to have a look at.  I might buy it if I like it. If I were to buy, I would probably refin it. No big loss in value there!!!!

Bill stop by and check mine out if you like.

[Dave W]

 How is that any worse than EBMM's "Game Changer WTF that is?
I don't think Gibson has the market for poor hyperbolye cornered 

It's not just about the hype. The MM Gamechanger claims to have an all-analog signal path with nothing digitized. Gibson calls theirs PURE-ANALOG™ while admitting it's converted to digital and back, i.e. NOT pure analog. To me, that's worse. Typical Gibson BS, like "reissue" guitars that never had a first issue.

It's enough to make you long for the Norlin years.

[drbassman]

I'm with Dave.  I prefer honesty and accuracy from businesses.

[drbassman]

Bill stop by and check mine out if you like.

I will.  I do have a meeting scheduled in the city, so maybe I can detour out your way.  I'll check my calendar and let you know.

[PhilT]

Maybe Gibson does their messaging research on eBay - hence short scale = small hands, short arms, beginner, guitarist. They missed out girls.

[dadagoboi]

Maybe they should include a voucher for a Handicap Parking pass with it.

[drbassman]

Gibson's marketing department has to be populated by the biggest bunch of boobs since the bozos who came up with the "New Coke" campaign.  What a pack of pinheads!   

[shadowcastaz]

Yeah but the new coke  actually increased interest & exposure  in classic  coke therefore increasing their market share

[drbassman]

Yeah but the new coke  actually increased interest & exposure  in classic  coke therefore increasing their market share

Too bad they actually didn't plan it that way!

I don't know how Gibson stays in business.  Really?

[Droombolus]

They create demand through haphazard supply to their dealers .......   And they sell a lot of Epi's of course ......

[Barklessdog]

Back to the topic: It's unfortunate that even Gibson as a once primarily short scale bass maker now seems to relegate short scale into the "for beginners, if you're hands are too small or if you are really a guitarist" corner. And isn't even the street price of this a little hefty for a beginner?

& girls.

[uwe]

Yes. That really adds insult to injury given that the only chick here doesn't even like short scales and is always clamoring that size matters. At least she's honest.

[uwe]

  They can't even count right:

"It has a glued-in neck made from superior quarter-sawn mahogany for improved strength and superior resonance, and a rosewood fingerboard with 22 frets. The neck is carved to a comfortable Thunderbird profile and measures .850" deep at the 1st fret and .900" at the 12th, with a width of 1.60" across its PLEK-cut Corian nut."

If only. How can anybody be so careless and sloppy in a description. A high E on a TBird would have been really something - alas!

I wonder if the frets are PLEKed too though? In general, the nut-cutting (come to think of it ... an unfortunate teminology to say the least) is the final stage in the PLEK-process and follows the fretwork, not much sense in cutting the nut without it. That might explain why they are dressed flat and not crowned? While the PLEK machine (at least the new generation) can crown frets you can find reports according to which it tends to flatten frets. That said, Gibson was not above putting out flat-fretted basses in the sixties and seventies too. Some of my vintage pieces could only be called crowned with the best of intentions.

[Dave W]

The PLEK cutter supposedly crowns the frets. OTOH it still depends on the operator. I'm sure Gibson only hires the cream of the crap.

[uwe]

I saw that too. On the other hand German engineering's penchant for flat silhouettes is amply documented.




Alas!, not a design language shared by everyone on the other side of the pond: