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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Basvarken on May 06, 2024, 02:22:33 PM »
Quote from: uwe on May 06, 2024, 10:39:53 AM
"kinda sloppy"

That is the understatement of the century, Rob, the Texans are way off beat and timing, hilariously stumbling all over the place!  ;D

Maybe they were stoned or sloppy drunk ;-)
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Alanko on May 06, 2024, 02:07:59 PM »
Quote from: uwe on May 06, 2024, 10:37:46 AM
Frankly, I don't think anything in this performance is live. Daltrey even misses his scream at 03:06 and Moonie isn't in sync with the ending of the song either.


No, all mimed to the kitchen-scissors single edit of Won't get Fooled.

The ZZ Top clip is weird because they almost look unsteady and unstuck. Dusty and Billy are turned to face the video screen and at one point Billy appears to try and slow the tempo a fraction, while facing the drummer.


Thanks to YouTube I've seen clips of what modern musicians hear onstage through IEMs, and it is a constant ticking click track for each song with audio cues like "...and fill in three, two, one" to ruthlessly keep bands in sync with visual and lighting cues.

Both my current bands have found keeping drummers impossible. Add a few babies along the way and we now mostly play acoustically. Recording this stuff to a 'grid' is really tricky as we add so much variance to the tempo of things. Learning the flute has been difficult for me as I'm so used to playing bass 'on the one' rather than shaping tempo to fit phrasing, etc.
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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: CURRENT CATALDO
« Last post by godofthunder on May 06, 2024, 01:58:58 PM »
  That looks like fun! I betthat Dimarzio sounds great!
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Gibson Basses / Re: Music videos that feature Thunderbirds
« Last post by morrow on May 06, 2024, 01:47:42 PM »
 It can be about as much fun as you can get.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Music videos that feature Thunderbirds
« Last post by Stjofön Big on May 06, 2024, 01:03:44 PM »
Hear, hear, Mrs T-bird! Now you're talkin!
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Guitars Etc. / JHS Notaklön
« Last post by ilan on May 06, 2024, 11:55:23 AM »
So I finally got the DIY overdrive pedal that all the web is talking about, and I love it. It's so good it makes me not suck on guitar, something that no other pedal has done before. Highly recommended.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 06, 2024, 10:51:54 AM »
Quote from: slinkp on May 06, 2024, 08:42:35 AM

Maybe it's an arbitrary distinction, but somehow having the lead vocalist lip syncing feels like crossing a line - but to me it depends on who they are and how the represent themselves to the public.  I'm not surprised and don't care if an "entertainer" is dancing with pyrotechnics and needs some help from autotune or tracks because they're too busy with choreography. If I went to a show like that I'd be expecting a visual spectacle.

But if I'm shelling out the big bucks to see an aging rocker who recorded "classic" tracks, I'd rather hear them struggle to hit the notes and hear what they sound like today, even if their voice is shot, and if they can't be bothered to expose that, then I'd rather they and me both stay home.

But that's just me. If other folks want to watch Don Henley or Billy Gibbons or whoever stand at a microphone and do nothing, that's fine.  I'd rather it not be a secret though.  I don't want to show up expecting one thing and get the other.

Amen!

I can't get worked up about Taylor Swift using Auto-Tune and backing tracks reinforcing her vocals. She was never Ella Fitzgerald in accuracy nor Janis Joplin in emotional outpour in the first place and plays largely to an audience that is under the misconception that an auto-tuned voice is how a natural voice sounds. Plus with the amount of moves she performs she is closer to a figure skater than a singer, you don't expect the former to sing either while they do their loop jumps.



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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 06, 2024, 10:39:53 AM »
"kinda sloppy"

That is the understatement of the century, Rob, the Texans are way off beat and timing, hilariously stumbling all over the place!  ;D
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 06, 2024, 10:37:46 AM »
Quote from: Alanko on May 06, 2024, 10:27:06 AM
Speaking of The Who, this clip muddies the waters!



I assume the winking lights on the modular synth are to represent the processed organ track, even though the band never tried to pass the organ off as a live instrument during real performances of the song. At a guess we are looking at some of Pete's ARP gear rather than fake synths from the Doctor Who prop department, but Pete never normally brought his synth rig onstage.

I read, years ago, that Pete wanted live performances of Baba O'Riley to feature a spontaneous synth track, generated by inputting metrics from a random audience member into a synth. That would have been interesting to see, if completely implausible.

Frankly, I don't think anything in this performance is live. Daltrey even misses his scream at 03:06 and Moonie isn't in sync with the ending of the song either.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Alanko on May 06, 2024, 10:27:06 AM »
Speaking of The Who, this clip muddies the waters!



I assume the winking lights on the modular synth are to represent the processed organ track, even though the band never tried to pass the organ off as a live instrument during real performances of the song. At a guess we are looking at some of Pete's ARP gear rather than fake synths from the Doctor Who prop department, but Pete never normally brought his synth rig onstage.

I read, years ago, that Pete wanted live performances of Baba O'Riley to feature a spontaneous synth track, generated by inputting metrics from a random audience member into a synth. That would have been interesting to see, if completely implausible.
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