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Dave W

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2014, 08:39:47 PM »
Are there any new Genz heads left?

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2014, 06:13:16 AM »
I would think they are all gone now after the fire sales.  I'm wondering if I even need a 3rd. amp.  I'm very happy thus far with the Orange and the Scout that's coming is a known entity and I am very pleased with how it performs. Maybe I'll just use those two for a bit and see how things shake out.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2014, 01:16:52 PM »
There are used Genz heads around places like TB and Ebay.  I confess I haven't owned any other heads than the Shuttles, but they're fantastic and have a tube preamp that adds character.  I think from what Bill has said that either a ShuttleMax or Streamliner would fit him.

They do seem to be selling promptly in the $550-$650 range on TB.

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2014, 08:35:14 PM »
Yeah, I checked eBay, just about the only new Genz Benz listed are the Contour 1x15 combos. One dealer is selling them for $359 which is way below what they originally sold for. Good deal but not what you're looking for.

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2014, 08:34:00 AM »
I think a bit of patience would turn one up.  They seem to be moving through the market yet.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2014, 09:23:04 AM »
The Mesa Scout arrives today.  We'll see how I feel about my amps after using it at practice on Wednesday.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2014, 07:13:47 AM »

But then, Rahock and I have drunk the Kool-Aid on Genz amps.

As have I. So much so that I sold my Sunn 300t with 215 bottom and when the guy came to pick it up I turned it on and was amazed at how good it sounds.

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2014, 01:16:18 PM »
I've drunk that kool-aid too.  Although in fairness, my points of comparison before I got the Shuttle are a long succession of clean sounding solid-state heads*, none of which I miss at all; I probably would've been much happier tone-wise with a big heavy tube amp, but when I was gigging I had neither the money to buy one nor the will to carry it around.

* The two other amps I ever owned with tooooobs were an Eden WT-300 and Eden WT-500, and that single tube in the Eden preamp circuit is not really there for overdrive purposes.  I'm not actually sure what purpose it serves! They're really nice clean-sounding heads, but I don't know why it took me so long to figure out I didn't really want a clean-sounding head for my basic sound.  The other amps I owned were, in order, Roland Cube 60, Peavey TNT-130, Randall something-or-other, GK 400RB,  Eden WT-500, Eden WT-300, Acoustic Image Clarus, Acoustic Image Focus, Thunderfunk 440 (?), Acoustic Image Focus III.  Not a dirty-sounding amp in the lot. Well, you could theoretically turn up the gain on the Peavey, but I recall that being pretty horrible.  The gain on the Shuttle works great for me.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2014, 03:33:22 PM »
I haven't tried to lightweight stuff, but my GBE600 is a fantastic sounding head that seems to give me any sound I am trying to find. I have been abusing an old Ampeg SVT100 for most of this year so the Genz isn't getting the love it deserves, but I still use it and love it.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2014, 04:01:24 PM »
Ah...the Genz club emerges from the woodwork here......
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2014, 04:06:24 PM »
Ah...the Genz club emerges from the woodwork here......

I'm another one.  My Streamliner 900 is hidden inside the fake Ampeg head.  Sound engineers love the DI in the Streamliner ....

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2014, 08:34:35 AM »
The two amps I ever owned with tooooobs were an Eden WT-300 and Eden WT-500, and that single tube in the Eden preamp circuit is not really there for overdrive purposes.  I'm not actually sure what purpose it serves!

I think it was more about marketing than tone.

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2014, 07:38:02 PM »
Two things:  the Orange amp and Trace pedal performed well together tonight.  Really nice bass tone and range.

The other surprise was the Mesa Scout amp.  It sounded great too!  I have come full circle and now realize just how good the Mesa hybrid amps are.  Wow does it sound great paired with the two Scout 15" cabs.  It's been a long journey but I've just developed a new appreciation for the Scout amp.  I thought I wanted the old school tone of a tube amp but the cleaner deep bass of the Scout is right on the money.  I feel a little dumb, but I feel good to have arrived at a good tone place at last.

I feel I can use either the Scout or the Terror/pedal and get just what I want.  This is such a good place to be at last.
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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2014, 08:00:45 PM »
Good. I know you've been searching for quite a while. Sometimes it just takes patience to find what clicks for you.

OTOH, you don't need an excuse to buy more gear.  :)

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Re: Mesa 400+
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2014, 04:16:44 AM »
I keep waiting for Bill to try a Genz ShuttleMax or Streamliner.  Hybrids don't come any better.

But then, Rahock and I have drunk the Kool-Aid on Genz amps.

Agreed. Pass the Kool Aid please :mrgreen:
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