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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #675 on: July 20, 2017, 12:02:26 PM »
Busy yes. But tight? Not really. Bruce falls out of the groove here and there. At least that's how I hear it...

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« Reply #676 on: July 20, 2017, 01:32:42 PM »
Jack never had a groove concept in a classic sense, his playing could be angular and he took liberties with time and meter (and on fretless: with notes!  :mrgreen: ) like, say, Carlos Santana does in his lead guitar playing. That is just him. The good JAE was no groove monster either (there, I said it), neither was Chris Squire. Robbie Shakespeare or Bernard Edwards they weren't!

Macca grooves! Without ever giving a thought to it I believe. And even though his rhythmic approach is pretty much meat and potatoes, but he swings in everything he does.
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« Reply #677 on: July 20, 2017, 06:06:44 PM »
Right. Jack didn't do "in the groove."

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« Reply #678 on: July 20, 2017, 08:56:18 PM »
Yeah, I wouldn't equate groove with being tight necessarily. I've always thought you can play around the groove and still be tight with regards to timing and note placement, which I think this is a pretty good example of. I certainly wouldn't call this loose. I think Uwe's descriptor of angular is the perfect fit for Bruce's playing.

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« Reply #679 on: July 21, 2017, 12:41:43 AM »
Maybe we agree. Depends how you define groove and sloppy.
A good groove -to me- is super tight without ever going against the cadence.
You can play before or after the beat. Push it or be lazy.

But Bruce just trips over a few bars there in all his non groovin busy playing. Like Buddy Miles and he were showing off how many notes they could play within a second.
Overplaying is seldom groovy.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #680 on: July 26, 2017, 09:41:37 PM »
For those who may have missed it, this link from No Treble's archives was shared on their FB page on 7/23. Jack with EB-3.

Buddy Guy, Jack Bruce, Buddy Miles, Dick Heckstall-Smith: Mary Had a Little Lamb (Live, 1969)

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« Reply #681 on: July 27, 2017, 02:37:08 PM »
For those who may have missed it, this link from No Treble's archives was shared on their FB page on 7/23. Jack with EB-3.

Buddy Guy, Jack Bruce, Buddy Miles, Dick Heckstall-Smith: Mary Had a Little Lamb (Live, 1969)

Jack is nowhere near grooving there - that's pure Jack the pirate freebooting all over!
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« Reply #682 on: July 27, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »
He's not even "locking in with the bass drum" - gasp! :o  Or - double-gasp!!  :o  :o - "playing in the pocket"!  :-X :-X

What's the world coming to when bassists don't follow the rule book?

And here, my friends, an iconic arch-example for groovy overplayin' at its best, and I mean Alvin not Leo (who sticks more to the script than he does with other songs of Ten Years After on this one):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW5M5xljdCI
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« Reply #683 on: July 27, 2017, 04:05:47 PM »
I don't have a problem with Jack running wild on that earlier cut, it's just Jack doing what he did well.

I have always loved that Ten Years After cut. I think the bass does a great job of supporting the tune.
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« Reply #684 on: July 27, 2017, 04:11:50 PM »
I don't have a problem with Jack running wild on that earlier cut, it's just Jack doing what he did well.

I have always loved that Ten Years After cut. I think the bass does a great job of supporting the tune.

I wasn't doubting your appreciation of his musical piracy! Jack is Jack. If you want him to hijack your music, then don't ask him to play for you.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #685 on: August 04, 2017, 05:14:06 AM »
Ah Post Rock, don't know how any band can make it out of the delay and reverb drenched murk in that genre and get noticed but these guys did.
I like how the guitarist sit for the entire show, it's Post Rock, there's not much to look at anyway so might as well relax and sit down. I dig the Japanese take on "western style music" always with a quirky twist.
As for the EB3 you can hardly hear it, so deep in the mix, i like it.
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« Reply #686 on: August 04, 2017, 06:18:31 AM »
Nice!  Can't hear the Eb3 at all on my TV; gonna have to try cans later. 
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« Reply #687 on: August 21, 2017, 01:18:48 PM »
RIP Jerry Lewis. There's an EB-1 behind him here.

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« Reply #688 on: August 21, 2017, 01:22:54 PM »
Love the close-up of the bass player!
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« Reply #689 on: August 21, 2017, 02:42:15 PM »
That was lovely - and good choreography and drumming too, his singing wasn't bad either. He should have practiced a bit more on guitar though - open tuninung would have helped!

And such a gifted and enthusiastic - if slightly verbose - interview partner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8SfWiNhTJo

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