Author Topic: Evertilt replacement bridge  (Read 3533 times)

4stringer77

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
    • View Profile
Evertilt replacement bridge
« on: August 02, 2017, 03:51:57 PM »
The bridge on my EB-1 is in rough shape. I brought the bass to a tech I know who originally hails from Nantucket. He also works at John Mann's guitar vault. John will take a drawing of my bridge and fabricate a new one made from chrome plated brass with brass saddles. He would like to make a run of 25 units of these so I figured I should get the word out. This is still in the preliminary stage and I welcome any constructive input from whoever here would like to give it or from anyone interested in getting a replacement for their own Gibson.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Granny Gremlin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2942
    • View Profile
    • Granny Gremlin home page
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 04:59:22 AM »
If it's to come with vintage accurate bushings (deeper/sharper/more knurl - they bite in and don't slip out like modern ones) then I am def in. 

.... in fact, I bet you could do reasonably well just selling those bushings on their own.
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6873
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 05:44:02 AM »
I think you may want to redesign the way the bridge sits on the bridge posts.
With the original Gibson two point bridge that is clearly a design flaw (causing the tilt and other problems)

Duesenberg for example has an excellent two point bridge which use lock down screws for the bridge posts.

4stringer77

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 06:14:58 AM »
I believe the plan was to use the existing bushings however it would make sense to offer those as well to other people. Does Duesenberg offer their bridge separately as an aftermarket part and would it retrofit a Gibson bass? If that's the case then there's no need to have John fabricate a new one. I'll see that the info from this thread gets to John as well.
For those not familiar with John Mann, here's a link to his page.
http://guitarvaultusa.com/about-us/#.WYMhw7pFyUk
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6873
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 06:53:43 AM »
The Duesenberg bridge comes in two different widths. One of those might fit.

But it won't be a replacement for the Evertilt as it needs a separate tail stop.




https://www.tonefactory.nl/duesenberg-bass-bridge-25x93mm-nickel

http://www.goeldo.de/hardware/bass-bruecken/2800/duesenberg-bass-bridge

4stringer77

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 07:54:50 AM »
Thank you Rob. Even if the Duesy was a fit, I'd prefer not to have to add a tail piece. I'm hoping some interest can get going for this project so John has some extra motivation to get it started. I'd imagine there's plenty of people with EB-2 or Les Paul basses who could use something better than what hipshot can offer.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6873
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 08:29:39 AM »
I only mentioned the Duesenberg bridge because of the lock down studs.
Not as a suggestion to replace the Evertilt.




4stringer77

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 08:36:56 AM »
Yes, it would be a shame to recreate the bridge only to repeat the same mistakes. I trust the new designer will have the foresight to avoid the same problem. Lock down stud, isn't that what the ladies call you in the Netherlands?  ;D
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

dadagoboi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4209
  • huh?...HUH?
    • View Profile
    • CATALDO BASSES
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 01:16:47 PM »
Tonepros makes locking studs in nickel or chrome, metric and SAE.  Their supplied anchors bite.  Not cheap but easier than reinventing the wheel.

Granny Gremlin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2942
    • View Profile
    • Granny Gremlin home page
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »
Thank you Rob. Even if the Duesy was a fit, I'd prefer not to have to add a tail piece. I'm hoping some interest can get going for this project so John has some extra motivation to get it started. I'd imagine there's plenty of people with EB-2 or Les Paul basses who could use something better than what hipshot can offer.

Trapeze attached only by the butt end strap pin works and requires no new holes in the bass, if that's the issue.
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

doombass

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1130
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 02:08:38 PM »
I'm interested. I have two basses (EB-3 and LP Triumph) with the two-point bridge. As long as the design is nice and the price ok (I know these are'nt going to be cheap though).

4stringer77

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1895
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 02:27:41 PM »
A trapeze tailpiece wouldn't look right and might make finding the correct strings more difficult. My friend mentioned somewhere around $150. We'll see how it goes.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Granny Gremlin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2942
    • View Profile
    • Granny Gremlin home page
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 04:15:45 PM »
Fits and works fine - it's what I did on my Triumph.  I have an EB3 too - would totally fit (measured) but I have a Schaller 460 on there now so don't need it.

Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

uwe

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 21404
  • Enabler ...
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 04:17:36 PM »
Alas!, there goes the easy stringholder solution that has always been advocated in certain quarters here to argue the alleged conceptual design strength of the two tilt point ...
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

FrankieTbird

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 537
    • View Profile
Re: Evertilt replacement bridge
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2017, 07:29:44 PM »

Yes, I agree with uwe, if a tail piece was used, the 2-point would not have the tilting issue, even without locking studs.  On a short-scale there's plenty if room for a tailpiece, if that's what you elected to do.  On a long-scale there's just no room (except the EB-2 of course).