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Messages - Dave W

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Guitars Etc. / Re: New Gibson Guitars
« on: January 09, 2018, 05:07:33 PM »
Ignore the supposed MSRP, $2199 is the actual price of the 2018 Thunderbird. It was $1999 but Gibson just increased prices on guitars and basses

Rickenbacker's list prices are $1829 for the neck through 620, and $2199 and $1899 for the 4003 and 4003S, but most dealers discount off that, anywhere from 15 to 30% off list. Of course Gibson could compete, they just choose not to.

I've seen the Antique Olive in person on a Strat, I really like it.

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"designed by Gibson and built by Epiphone in Kalamazoo" isn't accurate. Nothing was built by Epiphone, the company had ceased to exist separately. The Rivoli was the Epi version of an EB-2, nothing more or less.

IIRC Gibson (or CMI, Gibson's parent) bought the whole company for $20,000, including the name, the inventory and parts. The only reason Epi continued to exist as a brand was to market to more dealers without infringing on existing Gibson dealers' territories.

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Gibson Basses / Re: 2018 Gibson Parts @ Stratosphere
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:30:28 AM »
I love that body color. ^^^

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Gibson Basses / Re: 2018 Gibson Parts @ Stratosphere
« on: January 07, 2018, 10:16:49 AM »
He has some Fender basses parted out at present. The 2018 Gibson basses are a lot later coming out than their guitar counterparts, and he probably hasn't been able to buy any yet.

His business model doesn't bother me at all. He buys on the open market and resells. Want to put together your own Fender to your own specs? Want to put your own hardware and electronics in a Gibson body? Fine with me.

Here's the text of a 2013 post at Strat-Talk in a thread about him:

I live a couple miles from the man that owns/runs Stratosphere..

He's a good guy.. I've bought from him, and I've sold him a guitar that he then parted out.

He buys new stuff, sale stuff, discounted stuff, demo stuff and used stuff from dealers, second hand stores, Craigslist, individuals and ebay..

I say good for him. He came up with a plan, works hard at it and has a thriving business.

As for pricing, he sells most of what he lists at asking price, so obviously there is a demand..
But he also runs sales and I've got some nice parts at a very reasonable price.

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Guitars Etc. / Re: New Gibson Guitars
« on: January 07, 2018, 10:03:31 AM »
It owes something to the Ric 330. I like the look a little better than the arched top of the solidbody version.

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The 70s Japanese Epis weren't called Rivolis, were they? I know they didn't sound anything like the Kalamazoo Rivolis of the 60s and weren't intended to.

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Fender Basses / Re: Advice needed - 70s P neck on a new Aerodyne body?
« on: January 06, 2018, 02:49:42 PM »
That's definitely on the light side for a J body, even for swamp ash.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: New Year, new recommendations from Gwyneth
« on: January 06, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »
On second thought, maybe Rectal Burns was a lesser known Scots poet.

Coffee; black, no sugar... :mrgreen:

Put's a whole (hole?) new spin on that coffee that is made from beans that have been through a cat's digestive system...

Kopi Luwak coffee. If you can afford to buy that (about $100/lb.) then you can afford the Implant O'Rama.


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The Outpost Cafe / New Year, new recommendations from Gwyneth
« on: January 05, 2018, 09:12:13 PM »
Implant O’Rama system for at-home coffee enemas  :o

Rectal Burns... new band name?

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Gibson Basses / Re: New Embassy at Sam Ash
« on: January 05, 2018, 05:24:39 PM »
Are there any vintage pro thunderbirds that have made in China stickers on them? Indonesia has a better reputation for wood working and with the multi laminate neck through construction, I think it's a better place for the T-birds to be made. I went to Bali on a vacation once and saw all kinds of artistically carved wood pieces for furniture or decoration. It's too bad about the American woman with the medical marijuana prescription that got busted there and is in indefinite incarceration now. I think it might have something to do with the Muslim majority nation's displeasure with Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capitol. But hey, if that doesn't bother you, at least you can score a mean Thunderbird from there.

I don't think guitarmaking in Indonesia is any more advanced than in China. All depends on the particular factory and the price point. Gibson may have just contracted with a particular factory in Indonesia that could handle it. The Qingdao Gibson/Epi factories may not be set up for neck-through construction.

Indonesia's drug laws are draconian and have been that way for decades, it has nothing to do with US policy. A drug dealing conviction means the death penalty. I remember reading about 30 years ago that two Australians were sentenced to death by hanging for selling drugs.

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The EB-2 and Rivoli would also be considered thin lines right? I figured it was easier to call them both the same thing instead of making a distinction between one or the other. Does your Univox have electronics that sound like a Rivoli or EB-2 as well?

Yes, the EB-2/Rivoli is a thinline. IIRC The term thinline was coined by Gibson to differentiate them from their guitars with full depth bodies.

The Univox sounds nothing like an EB-2 or Rivoli.

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The Bass Zone / MOVED: NCD
« on: January 05, 2018, 05:13:14 PM »

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Gibson Basses / Re: New Embassy at Sam Ash
« on: January 05, 2018, 01:38:03 PM »
I hear you. My Melody Maker RI does that every winter.

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By "thinline", do you mean the thickness of the body?

This is my 70's Univox which has a fairly thin hollow body...short scale, flats, it's all there and every piece is original. That means the pots are crappy and need to be replaced.

As we all know, this could say Epiphone or Lyle on it as easily as it says Univox - they were made in the same place with the same parts.



I don't see any pic.

Thinline is referring to a thin body, usually meaning one with a center block, like the Gibson Es series guitars.

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