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The Outpost Cafe / Bands Whose Early Albums Stand Out
« on: April 20, 2024, 12:50:03 AM »
I've been thinking about this point since I saw an Allman Brothers documentary today.  I mentioned this on another thread.  This is just subjective and reflects how I personally feel about the issue.  Also, I might preface this by naming two bands important to me that actually seemed to get better in time.  That would be the Beatles and Golden Earring. 

But this is my personal list of bands I've listened to a lot and I like their early albums the most.  This is in no particular order. 

1.  The Jimi Hendrix Experience.  I've mentioned this before several times, but I actually once had to leave a forum just because I liked Hendrix's early albums and the majority of people did not.  Specifically, that would be Are You Experienced and Axis: Bold As Love.  You would not believe how heated this issue can become with Hendrix fans.

2.  Muse started a little slow; that is true.  But quickly they came out with some outstanding albums.  They reached a peak with Absolution and Black Holes and Revelations. their third and fourth albums. Their last two albums especially are so bad, I hardly even know what to say. 
Creatively, they now seem to be a band disintegrating, IMO. 

4. ZZ Top.  In the early years, I considered ZZ Top to be pretty interesting.  I guess the 80s might have killed them.  But the 80s killed a number of bands, including the next band on the list. 

5.  The Allman Brothers.  I've discussed some of this already on the other thread. I loved their first few albums.  But by the late 70s and especially early 80s their music had turned into a wasteland for a while.  As the years progressed, they regained their composure, more or less.  I've got most of their CDs.  But I'll always like their early albums the best. 

6.  Grand Funk Railroad.  I know a lot of people probably disagree.  But by the time of We're An American Band I probably couldn't even call myself a fan anymore.  And what about the album several albums later?  Born To Die.  Can't a band think of a better album cover than to put themselves in caskets on the cover?  That's just outright macabre.  It might have been better if more songs could have been like track 3 "Sally."  That was written about Mark Farner's involvement with the actress Sally Kellerman.  From what I've read, I think they must have had some wild times.

7.  Rolling Stones.  My attitude toward the Stones is just based on my own peculiar taste.  I realize that.  Objectively, I know this can't even be proven.  But I began to lose interest in the Stones after Let It Bleed.  For a while there, they were definitely one of my favorite bands.  But their earliest albums had really gotten through to me in a special way which could never be equaled.

This really is just a partial list.  But there are the bands which come to mind now.  My own theory is that people tend to be more creative when they're younger.  Their best music may end up being their earliest music.  Plus, sometimes you can simply just start running out of good songs.  But I'm sure some people would be able to list many bands Whose best music came later on.  In fact, logically it seems that might be what would be expected to happen.  But for me personally with the bands that I really liked, it often seems that they kind of sputtered out--to put it bluntly.  Once again, the Beatles are the most striking exception to my point of bands having their best albums early.  In their case, they just got progressively better, except for Let It Be which did a great job of displaying just how human the Beatles could actually be.  "

Now that I've got this off my chest, I can focus on the Runaways.  Because I don't even have any of their music.  But today I got "The Runaways:  Neon Angels On the Road to Ruin 1976-1978."  5 CD box set. 




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The Outpost Cafe / Dickey Betts, RIP
« on: April 18, 2024, 12:47:08 PM »
Dickey never quite received the attention he deserved while in the Allman Brothers or after, IMO.  I don't know the details of his passing away.  This particular song was written by Billy Ray Reynolds.  The Dickey Betts' version was not all that well known.  I think the Waylon Jennings' version may have received more attention.  On the other hand, Waylon is known more for being a singer than Dickey, while Dickey, needless to say played by Duane Allman's side.  When it comes to guitar credentials, that's going pretty high. 


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The Outpost Cafe / Crazy
« on: April 10, 2024, 11:42:07 AM »
Willie Nelson wrote the song.  Patsy Cline immortalized it.  Linda Ronstadt's version was much less known, but still pretty good.  Supposedly, Willie Nelson once said "there are two types of men in the world:  those who had a crush on Linda Ronstadt and those who have never heard of her."  Whether he really said that or not, Barack Obama actually did admit he used to have a crush on her at the National Medal of Arts Award ceremony in 2014.


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The Outpost Cafe / Top Ten British Bands Who Never Cracked America
« on: April 08, 2024, 01:07:12 PM »
In some cases, I had heard of the bands, but just hadn't heard any of their music.  In other cases, I had heard their music.

In reading through the comments, it seems to me quite a few people missed the point.  This is a list of bands that might have been popular in the UK, but not the U.S.  Some people commenting seemed offended some of their favorite bands weren't on the list.  This is not a popularity list.  It's a list of bands from the UK relatively unknown in America.  Also, it doesn't mean all Americans haven't heard of these bands.  In my case, for example, I had heard a lot of music by Stereophonics, but just thought it was way too pop and not rock enough at all.  Some of those other bands might be more to my liking if I listen enough to some of their music.  Kasabian would be prime example.  I've heard a lot about them, but wouldn't be able to name even one song by them.  In general, I'm not too familiar with this time period in music, whether American, British or something else.  But I'm always interested in something new if I can just find it.  Just because a band wasn't popular in America isn't a determining factor to me.  I'm interested in what I think myself. 


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The Outpost Cafe / The Man Who Panned the Beatles
« on: March 09, 2024, 02:37:15 PM »
I'm sure others have, but I had never heard of this infamous newspaper article about the Beatles before.  This is funnier than Decca rejecting them by telling the Beatles that guitar music was going out of style. 

https://scottwesterman.com/?p=12552

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The Outpost Cafe / 4 Most Underrated Classic Rock Bands
« on: November 14, 2023, 03:23:04 PM »
https://americansongwriter.com/no-music-snob-zone-these-are-the-4-most-underrated-classic-rock-bands-of-the-70s/

Subjective, of course, but these are some interesting choices.  I was, for example, just watching some Guess Who videos the other day and thinking that they had been underrated.  I've always liked all four of these bands mentioned in the article. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Last Song by the Beatles
« on: November 04, 2023, 10:42:10 AM »
I think Rick Beato has the best review.  However, he says he is glad the song was released and I'm not so sure.  I think the other two of those last songs were better.  Also, I think AI may have changed John Lennon's voice to sound a little like Paul McCartney's.  I was watching a video of someone who said he had experimented once with AI on a song.  It changed one voice on the song to sound more like what it considered the dominant voice. In this case, Paul's voice would have been considered the dominant voice, in spite of the fact that this was John's song. 

This just happened to be almost a random song which ended up as the Beatles' last song.  I don't think it should be considered an official swan song.  There were others that might have been better, IMO.  I just got a FedEx delivery of Philip Norman's book "George Harrison:  The Reluctant Beatle."  Personally, I'm more interested in this book than the Beatles final song.  It's supposed to be pretty good, although I have a feeling it's unnecessarily harsh.  I'll know soon.


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The Outpost Cafe / Expensive Rock CDs
« on: October 30, 2023, 09:52:47 PM »
This video is several months old.  Also, the guy who did it said his account has been suspended.  But I found some of his examples here interesting.  These are just examples of CDs which have sold for high prices on EBAY.  It doesn't necessarily mean that's what they're really worth in real life.  That Aerosmith CD is similar or just like one I got for a friend several years ago who is a big fan.  I told her it was going to turn out to be pretty valuable.  But she either didn't care or just didn't believe me.  She said she mostly cared about streaming and CDs were becoming obsolete.  Yikes, I wish I had kept that Aerosmith CD for myself, though. Still, I've got many CDs and will continue buying them. 








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The Outpost Cafe / Ten Bands That Should Retire
« on: February 26, 2023, 02:10:01 AM »
I've always thought that bands, and people in general, should retire whenever they felt like it, not when someone else told them to.  Still, it's hard to refute many of the points this guy makes. 


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The Bass Zone / Dave Mustaine's Comments
« on: February 15, 2023, 08:30:45 PM »
I don't know the source.  But I've run across some comments supposedly made by Dave Mustaine in which he said playing bass was easy.  That it was only one step above a kazoo.  The context was his observations after watching a Mike Huckabee video.  Maybe someone can verify the source.  I haven't been able to. 

Update:

I found it.

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/news/5378/Dave-Mustaine-Slams-Bass-Players/

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