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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Basvarken on April 09, 2008, 12:21:39 AM
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Yep that's right, the old BaCHbird topic has been erased on my request.
I just didn't feel comfortable anymore with this topic running "out of hand"
When I started about a year ago -at the former Dudepit- the goal was to gather 20 enthousiasts to help each other realise this dream.
In the meanwhile I have over 50 people who joined in.
To all participants: don't worry, the project is still on.
I have your email addresses and I will keep you informed through email.
We could use this new topic to discuss related stuff. But I really would like to keep this BaCHbird project under the radar till it's a wrap.
I hope you will understand/respect that.
cheers, Rob
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Audobon...
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Makes sense.
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Great work, Rob! ;)
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Yeah, cool!
And: Sssstt. Quiet;)
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Sounds good to me. Onward and upward!
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What were we talkin' about? ;) :-X
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3YCZvuB6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3YCZvuB6A)
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What Bachbird you say?
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I hear NOTHING!!! I know NOTHING!!!!! ;D ;)
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WOW ! The Tremelos ! They had their Sh-t together !
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Huh? Dummy up! :P I can do that!
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:-X
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I would get one of these while you can. Kind of pricey, but would equal the time it takes to make one.
They would make nice eyebrows or mustaches for the Groucho in you?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Gibson-NOS-Parts-Thunderbird-EB-Finger-Rest_W0QQitemZ260228897060QQihZ016QQcategoryZ7266QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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It's all that little detail crap that kills you. I got the neck from him for $60. The thumbrest is $35? We already know the guy is a reliable seller, and he must know his stuff.
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Yes but his prices are not insane like other parts dealer have been in the past. He supplied my Blueshawk pickups, he even had the Fender Style Blueshawk three way pickup selector !
I paid $100 for a Gibson T bird cover several years ago- they could not be had! $36.00 is a bargain on those.
I really regret not snagging one of those bound unused mahogany Triumph necks that was for sale several on Ebay several years ago. It was the one with the bound headstock and big triangles on it, never been mounted. I think it sold for around $300?
Good luck finding another one of those!
After his stuff is gone I doubt another treasure trove is going to be coming our way. It back to insane prices, unless we go into a depression!
Those little finger rest are really nice and not too bad of a price. I have seen people wanting $50 in the past for them.
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Please remember that I'm making exact replacement 60's bridges that will work as an upgrade on the Bachbird. (chrome pickups too) Shouldn't be any trouble with the tailpiece here to make the Bachbird look pretty much vintage correct. If I got a pretty good number of orders for the bridges, I'm sure I can offer them a little cheaper.
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Bump. Any news on the horizon?
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Those bridges look great ! Nice work.
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I just found out BaCH is already selling the bridge plus tailpiece at their website...
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101078/bachthd-se-zavesem-strun/ (http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101078/bachthd-se-zavesem-strun/)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/BACHT%20CELEK.jpg)
Of course I immediately sent them an email to ask how far they are with the project.
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That tailpiece grows on me - very art deco-ish!
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That tailpiece grows on me - very art deco-ish!
and a lot simpler to make being all 90 degree angles!
I agree it does have it's own charm
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Very cool !
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I just found out BaCH is already selling the bridge plus tailpiece at their website...
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101078/bachthd-se-zavesem-strun/ (http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101078/bachthd-se-zavesem-strun/)
For $107! That's a pretty sizable chunk of the BachBird price but they sure do look nice.
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Any news on the basses themselves?
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I'm afraid not Gary.
Let's hope it's the calm before the storm
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After this whole Skyline Decade thing, it has been about a year and that was something they already had in a US version of. I can see it taking as long as it has. Yes, it seems like a long time but, things take time for a new model production run that they need to make all new tooling and then make revisions, passing those on to the factory.
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I got an email from BaCH today.
And it's good news.
I will send y'all an email tonight when I get home from work.
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G R E A T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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ooooooo!!!! :thumbsup:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ2iyFmywPE
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At last! I was about to abandon hope... ;D
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Yaybia!
Thanks Rob :thumbsup:
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YES!
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Did the email go out? I didn't receive anything at the email I got BaCHbird news at before...
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Oooooooooo...looking good!
Thanks, Dave W, for the email forward
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Hi,
I would love to see this thing. Please send me an e-mail, if you are agreeable. Best regards, Rikkimax
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Rikkimax, and anyone else who's interested in this project, please contact Rob (Basvarken) directly to be included in his email list. Thanks.
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any idea about the shipping cost to the US east coast?
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Now, I'm used to working with news, but this is what I call Hot Stuff!!! Grrreat!
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Starting to compile some parts. Just bought a pair of the NOS 70's pup covers and rings, and put a bid on a Gibson TRC. Ugh.. $40 for a piece of plastic. Oh well, in the end I'll have basically what I want without depleting the piggy bank.
Anybody have a tracing of a proper NR pickguard? Or does somebody like Pickguardian already make one?
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Scott had been working on one \
;) ;) :o :rolleyes: :-[ :-X :-\ :mrgreen:
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Very funny John ;0 I have made pickguards in the past the problem is I cant find the thin w/b/w that Gibson uses. I think it is .060 the stuff from Stew mac is .090 . There was a time when I was going to make and sell NR Thunderbird pickguards`. I have a friend who hot stamps the logo for me but then I began to worry about Gibson sending their lawyers after me so I have prety much been making them for myself. Things have changed a bit this is a pretty insular forum I might be willing to under take this project if I can get the right material. I am not going to go into what went on between me and Roger at Jeanies pickguards other than I won't have anything to do with him. Here is one I made with the stew mac material for my NR model G bird. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/001.jpg)
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Pickguard Heaven (Chandler) carries .060 w/b/w. I don't know if they sell the material separately. They do claim to have a late 60s Thunderbird pattern.
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Thanks Dave, I sent them a email we will see.
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Thanks for the tip Dave ! Looks like I have a supplier ! I will order some soon..................................... I have to wait for this economy thing to settle down.
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A few years ago I was in contact with Pickguard Heaven about their Les Paul Bass / Triumph control plates.
But I never bought any of their stuff because I doubted wether it was anywhere near accurate. They kept insisting the Triumph originally had a two piece pickguard. I am 100% sure Gibson never made a Triumph bass with two piece pickguard. (The guitar version called Les Paul Recording guitar had a two piece set mounted, but the knob configuration on the control plate was located differently from the Triumph bass plate)
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Rob, the people I know who have used Pickguard Heaven have been pleased. But I hear you. With so many pickguards out there, a mistake is possible. They have a guarantee, but with overseas postage costs, it might cost too much to take advantage of it.
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One of us here could always play guinea pig, and report the results. It would be easier to verify, and send back if it was wrong, and then notify the masses.
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Ive dealt with him. he does nice work a,but is real specific about what is what.
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I'm excited about this bass again! BUT, if they're going to have a big logo on the HS then they don't need one on the truss rod cover. Easy fix. Bass looks good!!
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Indeed: Makes no sense having the logo on the head stock twice .
I was going to ask them to leave the headstock blanco.
And have their logo only on the truss rod cover.
Maybe it's an idea to have the BaCH logo on the pickguard. After all, they do have a bird in the logo ;-)
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BaCH logo on the pickguard.
I sincerly hope not! ;)
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Indeed: Makes no sense having the logo on the head stock twice .
I was going to ask them to leave the headstock blanco.
And have their logo only on the truss rod cover.
Maybe it's an idea to have the BaCH logo on the pickguard. After all, they do have a bird in the logo ;-)
If I remeber correctly BaCH offered no-logo versions when I bought my RickenBaCHer. Maybe they still do.......
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'Owdy! When my kids (full grown) got the Bach '51 P-bass for me, the day I turned... must have been, like, hrrm... well, anyways, they got me this bass that's a real pleasure to play. And it don't have any logo, except for the one that followed with the bass, in an envelope. So possibly they'll leave it all up to you, as Ricky Nelson once put it so neatly. (Now, that's Rick for you youngsters. Good singer. To bad he's Gone, gone, gone. As Phil and Don so correctly noticed.)
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About Rick Nelson.....my show band got a last minute call on New Years Eve in Dallas to play the party that Rick was on his way to. I couldn't believe they were still doing the show but I'm sure they presold a bunch of tickets. One of the saddest gigs of my career.
Bach does a pretty good job on that 51 reissue. Does it play as nice as it looks?
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Ray, I'll bet that was a hard gig. About a year before that, I was in GC in Skokie, IL. They had just opened up, and a couple of the guys were on Rick's road crew prior to GC. They sorta verified that a lot of the rumors about Rick were true - they said he was hard to keep up with. It's a shame, since it took him until the early '70s ("Garden Party") for so many people to take his music seriously. Most people don't realize that it was him, and the Stone Canyon Band, that were literally the genesis of The Eagles.
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Yeah, I agree with the good words on mr Nelson. Travelin' man is a great song, but my personal favourite is String along. A lyric that suited a teenager perfect!
Must have been a hard and sad gig, trying to fill the shoes of Rick Nelson. If my memory serves me well, that was the same thing that helped Bobby Vee break. It's soon 50 years since Buddy Holly died in a plane crash, in 1959. Vee and his brothers were invited to fill the gap. But was that before, or after, Dylans short stint with Vee (who's parents came from Sweden respectevly Finland)?
The Bach P-51: really nice bass, with smooth neck, and a sound that can be turned into something brutal when wanted. Which it is.
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If Bobby Vee is from Minnesota, then dollars to donuts he's a Swede.
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If Bobby Vee is from Minnesota, then dollars to donuts he's a Swede.
He's from Fargo, don'cha know. Not Moorhead. ;)
I lived in Minn-ahh-sohhh-ta long enough to know that there are more Minnesotans of German ancestry than from all the Scandinavian countries combined.
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Swedes, Germans - as long as they're Lutheran, who's counting? Kinda like Fargo and Moorhead - you know you're in ND when you find gambling tables in the bars. Other than that, not a whole lotta difference.
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Fargo eh, like body parts in the woodchipper ;)
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Swedes, Germans - as long as they're Lutheran, who's counting? Kinda like Fargo and Moorhead - you know you're in ND when you find gambling tables in the bars. Other than that, not a whole lotta difference.
Try going to up to either Fargo or Moorhead and telling the locals there's not a lot of difference... you might wind up the woodchipper! ;D
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It is tough up here in the land of ruff (roof) and rut (root). You should see what happens when I tell 'em there is no difference between IA, WI, ND, SD, and MN. All the same to me. Drive's them batty.
It only gets different when they say measure as "mayzhure."
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It is tough up here in the land of ruff (roof) and rut (root). You should see what happens when I tell 'em there is no difference between IA, WI, ND, SD, and MN. All the same to me. Drive's them batty.
It only gets different when they say measure as "mayzhure."
Come January, you should go to the annual lutefisk dinner at First Lutheran in Columbia Heights. Stand up and loudly ask "aren't Norwegian, Swedes and Germans all the same?"
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Come January, you should go to the annual lutefisk dinner at First Lutheran in Columbia Heights. Stand up and loudly ask "aren't Norwegian, Swedes and Germans all the same?"
Ask a German if he is into lutefisk (correct Swedish spelling is lutfisk).
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Which then brings on the question: Have you eaten lutfisk?
Not that we Amis don't have some of our own *questionable* delicacies :rolleyes:
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Yes, and I survived. It's just not something I'd ever choose to eat unless I were starving.
About a year ago, Cracked.com listed lutefisk in its "6 most terrifying foods" list. It was actually the most appetizing looking food on the list.
Here's a tribute that originally appeared in a Scandinavian-American joke book by Red Stangeland: O Lutefisk (http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/o_lutefisk_o_lutefisk.htm)
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I tried it once. Let's just say there are better food on the Christmas table.
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The point with the lutfisk is to have a soft ending to all the fat in the Christmas food. The lutfisk is very smooth, only spiced with salt and allspice, and should be served with a gentle bechamel, with or without nutmeg, and potatoes. For drink I would suggest a dark, maybe a little sweet, beer. And, of course, the schnaps!
As I understand it, the lutfisk is, at times, confused with the fermented Baltic herring. Now, that is for people who never tried, or smelled, the fermented herring. The smell of it can, for the not initiated, be mistaken for stink, when it is in fact an odour! I had fermented herring as late as last Sunday, at my wifes parents place. Complete with perfectly chopped onion, potatoes, flatbread, beer, and, again, schnaps! Lovely, partners, lovely!!! And it stays so strong in the stomach, that even as late as last night, my wife, who only eats two fishes (myself like 5-6 of them) gave me the eye.
There's been situations when I've had a gig in direct connection to an evening with fermented herring. Let's just say my band mates are indulgent.
But enough talk now: if any of you guys ever visits northern Sweden, I would really like to give you a schooling in how to eat both the herring and the lutfisk. And as an extra bonus I would throw in a couple of schnapses! Aalborgs aquavit, a Danish schnaps, and the Best. And we would, of course, to not lose direction in the Forum, talk about Gibson basses. Of and on, between the chewings.
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Y'all have email.
If you didn't get any,
you're either not on my list
or the email address that I have is obsolete
(or may my mail is in the spam box)
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Yay!! Thanks, Rob!
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Patience wins out in the end! I'm ready for one! Thanks for your efforts on our behalf Rob!
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YAYBIA!!!!!!!
Thank You Rob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rob, tonight we drink to you.
(and also to a change in leadership over here in the U.S.)
Thanks for all your efforts m'man.
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I am sooooo stoked for this.
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Let's face it, fellows: It takes a Flying Dutchman to get hold of such a Bird.
My congratulations to such a fighting spirit, Rob!
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Yep, thanks again Rob!
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Rob,
Well, Looks pretty good ( amazingly good actually! ) great work and perserverence on your part. I assume we wait for BaCH to contact us? A plus for those of us the US, it looks like the $ has gained on the Erou ( ummm...thank you world financial crisis, I guess? ) of course shipping cost have probably doubled since this affair started. Hey, whatever they got the thing done! So, WOO-HOO!!! NR T-bird time!
Thanks Again, Rob!
Scott ( BassVI )
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So when is Bach going to email us? I haven't received anything yet!
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Good luck all. If you can't wait, there is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Thunderbird-II-Bass-Non-Reverse-1966-Cherry-NICE_W0QQitemZ270303575497QQihZ017QQcategoryZ118984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Good luck all. If you can't wait, there is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Thunderbird-II-Bass-Non-Reverse-1966-Cherry-NICE_W0QQitemZ270303575497QQihZ017QQcategoryZ118984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They don't get any better than that.
...unless they're lefty. heh
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With all that info in the description, no mention of the serial number, and no evidence of one in the photos.
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900705
It is in the very last pic.
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900705
It is in the very last pic.
Ahhhh...didn't see that in there the first time.
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That is one fine NR. Doubt if that's a realistic price.
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That is one fine NR. Doubt if that's a realistic price.
I agree on both counts, though you can never tell what the one guy who really wants that particular bird might be willing to pay.
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For me it all depends on Powerball!
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One in cherry was up a while ago and I had my doubts, Dave and the forum changed my mind about the authenticity of such a finish. is this the same bass that was up 6-12 months ago ?
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I don't remember, Scott. Could be. I do recall us discussing something expensive from PM Blues before but it may not have been a Gibson.
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is this the same bass that was up 6-12 months ago ?
Yeah, its the same one - I saved pics of it. In fact, several of those are the same pics from that previous auction.
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I'm still waiting for my email from Bach!!!
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So do I...
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My concern is they're just selling them over there!! :-\
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Well, it's still on their site for 0,- Czech Crowns. Which means it's not for sale (yet).
But I did find out a Swedish website that has them with this month's news:
http://www.edgaraudio.se
But if you click on the pic you only get a larger pic but no order details...
I sent BaCH another email to ask what's goig on, but no reply as of yet.
Patience is the keyword in this project guys.
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OK, I'm patiently awaiting my email! :bored:
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So that is the BaCH bird! That looks pretty nice. What is the deal on the Swedish site - I am guessing they are going to be offering them for sale soon or eventually, no? Any idea of the headstock on their own branded bass? I am hoping to hear the about the first one in-hand soon. Good luck!
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Hmm... I wonder if they feel that they've stumbled on to something here?
Well, they're giving us first crack at it... I hope :-\
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So that is the BaCH bird! That looks pretty nice. What is the deal on the Swedish site - I am guessing they are going to be offering them for sale soon or eventually, no? Any idea of the headstock on their own branded bass? I am hoping to hear the about the first one in-hand soon. Good luck!
go check the bach site:
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101177/th-1-wh/
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Just called Edgaraudio here in Sweden. Talked to a man called Sixten, yeah, that's his name. Not very common nowadays, but when I was a kid, some of my dads pals had the name. And while we're at it, concerning names, one of my late uncles.... Blah, blah, blah... Blah, blah, blah...
No, I can't leave you in limbo, with question marks over the head. Let's go for the whole Sixten conversation:
- I got that picture from the Bach catalogue. I do not have one for sale, and I have not seen it, other then on picture. How many I will get? Well, I do not know, if I will get any in the end. That depends on how many Bach's got in stock. And I do not know what the price will be, in case I get one.
- But I do know one thing. The Bach basses are good. See, I play a little bit of bass myself, and I really enjoy them.
What we must keep in mind here, concerning the review of the Bach basses, is that Sixten is a Swedish dealer for that company. But, also keep in mind that the writer of these words has also got a Bach bass, 51 P-bass style. And I really like it!
So, in alles, I get the impression that the Thunder-Bach still stays is in Czech, waiting for 100 eager hands spread all over the Western World, as we know it. But, as Cilla Black once put it: I've been wrong before!
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Well, I can take or leave Cilla Black, but I am thinking this thing is happening. And the bridge is up with a price now.
Maybe as well-made as the Pzkpfw 38t
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Did I say I was patiently waiting for my email invoice? :bored:
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You got me there, for a minute, eb2. I had to Google for Pzkpfw 38 t, before I realized it is the old Panzerkampfvagen 38 t. Well, if it's built in that way, we have to hope that it works for more than marsches! bomp-bomp-bomp-bmp...
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I have repeatedly offered in the past that we go there in person (and with heavy armor vehicles) to sort things out. Whether basses or territories with German speaking minorities, the Czechs never hand anything over voluntarily. But apparently they do good work.
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I'm with Uwe on this. Damn those Czechs (or whatever they spell that word)!
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I'm with Uwe. It's time to invade! :vader:
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I have repeatedly offered in the past that we go there in person (and with heavy armor vehicles) to sort things out. Whether basses or territories with German speaking minorities, the Czechs never hand anything over voluntarily. But apparently they do good work.
Good thing BaCH isn't located in Poland! :mrgreen:
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Good thing BaCH isn't located in Poland! :mrgreen:
BaCH is located in Hodonin. I think that may have been in the Sudetenland. :o
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BaCH is located in Hodonin. I think that may have been in the Sudetenland. :o
Yikes, what a coincidence! Either way, I can't believe they've got a pile of completed Birds and can't get off their butts and sell them to us!!!! And people think American workers aren't productive! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!! If this were Gibson or Fender, the invoice would have gone out before the paint was dry.
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Hell, if it were Gibson they would have shipped them before the paint was dry! :mrgreen:
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You guys have to realize production takes time. I have waited a year for my Lakland Decade which is in, but delayed again due to missing control covers, delays from Korea etc..
Nothing ever goes as planned
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I don't think production time is the issue at all.
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I don't think production time is the issue at all.
I'm with Dave. The impression we have been given is they are finished and we're waiting for invoices so we can begin purchasing them. Business must be good over there!
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You can contact them through their website to ask about how much to buy it direct, and shipping, etc. They are looking for shipping quotes now apparently.
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Here's what I got in my email today:
Hi Rob ,
I am sorry for my silence but I am off my office very often these days.
I have asked our Invoice clerk to send You a proforma Invoice.
They will send it tomorrow.
Once again take my sorry.
Roman
BaCH Music , Czech
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They must have sensed the karma in the air, and detected the presence of the storm troopers...
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OK, I take Roman's sorry. I can wait.
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I bet they are trying to figure out a way to raise the price :o
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I bet they are trying to figure out a way to raise the price :o
Or how to send email!!! :P
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I tapped into the feed from the spycam strategically positioned at the Invoice Clerk's desk inside BaCH headquarters. I believe I have found the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma54_UjYqgU&feature=related
If he would only lean forward a wee bit, his forehead would likely slam down on the enter key and our invoices would get sent!
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I sent a friendly inquiry to Roman a couple of days ago to see
if we should be contacting them directly, but no reply.
His reply to Rob sounds very promising though.
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I have mail from BaCH!
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Me too but there is no shipping cost included. It just says "Euro 160,00 + a freight cost + Euro 10,00 as Bank fees". How am I supposed to respond to that?
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What a bunch of dorks.
Have you replied asking what the shipping cost will be?
BTW: I haven't received any email (yet)!
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I replied:
Dear BaCH-people,
Thanks for mailing! Of course I'll take the bass!!
Please give me your IBAN-code and the shipping amount to Holland and I'll pay as soon as possible.
Kind regards,
Chris Dekker
+ address
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I ain't got email yet! What are those "bank fees"?
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Bank feed:
If I transfer money to an IBAN-account in another country the transfer costs are for the reciever. I think they want that covered. No big deal.
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I got an invoice from BaCH! With IBAN etc.
shipping cost from Czech to The Netherlands: 38 euro.
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Good one Joe! I think you nailed it! :bored:
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Anyone out there who knows whether Bach got a case that suits the Bird? I wrote Roman about it, when we got the good news, but haven't had an answer from him yet.
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I have a Stagg ABS2-RB case that fits my Greco Thunderbird. I'm hoping the BaCHbird will fit too.
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I haven't seen a reply yet either. :-\
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I'm out if any one wants the one i was going to buy step up ! I do have good news though ! I am soon to be the proud owner of a Hiwatt DR201 that once graced Slade's backline !
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Cool! I loves me some Jimmy Lea. Now I have a hankerin to hear "My Town". :mrgreen:
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Gudbye T'Jane, Gudbye T'Jane.............. ;)
That's friggin' Awesome Scott!
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It has been well over a year in coming, lots of behind the scene stuff, then the move and now I got laid off, my my wife gave me that go ahead ! I can't believe it! Even comes with a letter from Dave Hill !
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I've got my invoice too!
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Why does the world's greatest Slade nerd live in a country where they never even got past opening act status and had their greatest chart success in the shape of a cover of their songs played by a hair metal band? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Congrats!
Uwe
PS: You should have been their US manager, Scott, things might have turned out differently then.
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Why does the world's greatest Slade nerd live in a country where they never even got past opening act status and had their greatest chart success in the shape of a cover of their songs played by a hair metal band? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Congrats!
Uwe
PS: You should have been their US manager, Scott, things might have turned out differently then.
It is a mystery Uwe ! I often wonder myself. First thing I would have done is put Dave Hill in a pair of Levis, told him no more glitter and for gods sake practice.
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I'm out if any one wants the one i was going to buy step up !
I'll step up.
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Did any of you guys across the big pond get an email or invoice from BaCH?
So far I've only heard from a few Dutchmen and Daniel from Sweden, they got email.
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No love for us Amis............ :-[
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Thought it was just me. I figured the clerk might have seen my last post and bumped me off the list :sad:
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Not a peep from the Bach bird in NH!
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Not signs of Czech (alien?) life here in Greece, too.
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Nope, nada. :-[
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No word here!
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Not a sound from Bach, here in northern Sweden. Or, as we Swedes pronounce it: inte ett ljud. Inte ett förbannade tecken!!! Jävla Bach-idioter!!! I'm sure everything had been different, had it been Beathoven...
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No love for us Amis............ :-[
That's because you sure took your time liberating them last time and in the end let the Russians do it. The latter overstayed their welcome by a couple of decades.
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Midlde of the night... Drunk as f---kkk. Not a sign from our claxxic company in what-used-to-be Eastern Europe... Takes me the best part of an hour to write this... Shit, man... This waiting... without my wife knowing that I'm about to spend some part of my Chrsitmas money on a nex bass.... Goood night! And, once again, good night tp all you friends, understanding the situation, all over our hemispher....
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Easy there big Guy................. ;)
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Right about now, I feel like Stjofön Litte, very, very small....
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I love those nights.
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Sadly, no sign of BaCH here either.
Does anyone do business with that particular BaCH?
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Our BaCHbird must have inspired them to build a white Firebird too ;-)
http://www.bachmusik.com/p1132/bach-fb-1-wh/
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Ha! I'm so glad it's not a non-reverse.
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You know I looked over their website, they have some pretty cool basses there.
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Our BaCHbird must have inspired them to build a white Firebird too ;-)
http://www.bachmusik.com/p1132/bach-fb-1-wh/
Hey, where's my THIRD pickup? Lol, I love 3-pup bitches, I mean guitards.
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How much are these BachBirds going to be?? First I saw of them - I thought this was a big secret or something.....The are list at '0'....they look quite cool!
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They wanted it kept quiet because of possible trademark concerns. Now they have pics on their website. Go figure.
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I'd like to know how much the cost will be also. When I checked out the site I was wondering what John & Sterling would think.
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Re: Body shapes
I had this discussion with Mike Lull in regards to his Thunderbird.........basically since the body shapes have never been trademarked or patented they can be copied without fear of a lawsuit.
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Yet our BaCH friends make a fairly blatant Rickenbacker bass knock off. There is no secret how that goes over with the little guitar factory in CA. I tend to think they don't care about what is copyrighted or not.
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The cost is 160 Euros. There are already buyers for all of the first run. Contact Rob (Basvarken) by email or PM for more info.
Re the body shape: it's strictly a trademark issue, nothing to do with patent or copyright.
Gibson may not have registered a trademark on the Firebird/Thunderbird, but they would probably assert common law trademark rights if a copy was too close.
That's probably not really an issue with a Fenderbird type since a bolt-on Fender-style neck on a Gibson-style body is not likely to be confused with a Gibson product. But it might be a big issue with a clone, even if the clone isn't officially marketed in the US.
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Has anyone heard anything from the Bach company? Anyone got his/hers bass yet? I've heard nothing so far, and the days keep rolling on. Was I born under a wandering star?
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Has anyone heard anything from the Bach company? Anyone got his/hers bass yet? I've heard nothing so far, and the days keep rolling on. Was I born under a wandering star?
Same here.
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It bugs the hell out of me that BaCH still has not sent most of you guys an email.
So I sent them an email about the BaCHbird. Here's what they replied:
Hi Rob ,
Your bass was sent last week.
We fully respect to our customers . They are We and We are They. No business without customers.
We were not able to contact them last week if I promised You that.
Now is monday and We are pretty busy now.
I beg our guys to contact rest of guys from Your list asap.
Take care Rob .
Roman
BaCH Music , Czech
Hey Roman,
there are still lots of people from all over the world (including some in the Netherlands) that haven't heard from BaCH yet.
I am not going to beg you to sell the instruments. It should be the other way around.
Remember these people are customers!
In The Netherlands we have the saying: Customer is King...
Rob
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Nothing here. If someone would like to take my place in line, they are welcome! I've been spending my money on other things!
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Haven't heard anything yet either Rob, but I can be patient - just don't want them to sell out before I get one !! :)
krishna
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Nice one Rob. Can't argue with that logic.
I'm with Krishna - patient but really hoping that they don't all vanish.
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I'm still hangin' on!
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Nothing here. If someone would like to take my place in line, they are welcome! I've been spending my money on other things!
Come on, we waited 2,5 years and we can also wait two weeks longer! They are on their way!!
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Bill:
I would be more than happy to take your place in line, but I know that there were some others in front of me.
I don't want to cut in improperly, but I am still very interested in getting one of these things.
If by chance a bachbird arrives at your doorstep, I will be glad to buy it off you if no one ahead of me on the list wants it. If I can figure out how to move up on the list fairly, I would do that too!
Rob, are you by chance keeping track of who is still in and who is out, or are you sick of that role???
Nothing here. If someone would like to take my place in line, they are welcome! I've been spending my money on other things!
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I'm not speaking for Rob, but I can only imagine that if someone on the list of the first 50 drops out, then the 51st person will have the opportunity, and so on.
If it gets to my spot on the "reserve list" I'll have to pass.
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Yeah, I've got so many irons in the fire, I really don't have the cash for one now. So, I'll send a note to Rob and make sure he knows.
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I may be crazy, but I am still in if my name pops up to the top of the list. Poor Rob's head must be spinning if he is trying to keep track of all of this!
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As we all know, the good folks in Dutch can more than fix a bass from both scratch and abroad! So here's to Rob and all of us to enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPimmqruov8
I might have sent this link before. If so; enjoy again. And don't give up just because you think this Gibsonites are a bit slow in the start. They'll soon be both rocking and rolling!
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I still think this is crazy:
Rob's busy with this project for over two years. Doing research, finding and making pics and sending them, collecting measurements and sending them, keep in touch about prototypes and just doing an awful lot of work making this happen. The last couple of years he kept us updated about everything and he answered all our complains. A hard job, but he did a great job!! He also thought about quiting for some times, but he went through, also because we all believed in a nice result and because he already did so much work.
Now after 2,5 years the bass is there. We all made commitments to Rob and people who are getting mailed a bit late (what's two weeks on two years!?!!?) are just canceling like if it's just normal. We all made a commitment to Rob. It's a very cheap bass. And what would a guitar shop say if you cancell something ordered? I just don't get it. Instead of thanking Rob people just cancel their bass. I don't get it.
Sorry for sounding a bit angry.
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This project got much farther than I ever anticipated it to get - ever the cynic. And it's all down to Rob's shrewd persistency in the face of mounting odds - dogged little Dutchman he is. Now we'll go that extra mile too. The Sudetenland wasn't liberated in a day and brought home into ze Reich either. Well, almost. ;)
I'm on the waiting list and I'll gladly take one should I have the chance. To compare with my existing real Non Revs and I will not change a thing on it. With 19 TBird'ish basses (Epiphones, Orvilles and an Embassy included), I don't need a 20th one though. So if there is someone sans any Non Rev in his present collection who's wetting his panties to have one of these, he can have mine should I move up far enough in the line.
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If needed, I can search for extra buyers. At this price, that would be a piece of cake. But I don't think it will be necessary, alot of people (including me) want desperately this piece of czech woodworking craftmanship.
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The Anschluss took a day, though.
I have been wisely not diving into this. Wise in that I know my own purse vs my other commitments. But it sounds like a deal and a half. So maybe they will do a couple of runs, I am hoping
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I didn't make the first 50, I kinda wanted a "naked" one, and my "project time" is mostly devoted to my car these days, but at this price, I'll take one if I move up the list. ;D
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The first ones arrived in Holland today. An early X-mass for some people. Mine isn't in yet.
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Seems like a great price....I would be interested if there were any "leftovers".....
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Mine's in! It's great and huge!!! I'll take her to my band trhis evening and I'll come back to it.
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Got mine too!
More about it later.
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Those will be most interesting reports! Exciting!
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I just returned from a four hour rehearsal. It was great!
My opinion: The bass just is a real Thunderbird, big, narrow neck, on the left the oversized and angled headstock. It's just the T-bird feel. Because it's a copy it's a real neck diver, but I'm used to that. No problem. But the big headstock looks so familiar.
Sound. Great. You hear the real nosy (is that English?) but warm Gibson/mahogany sound. It growls and even the D and G are fat. Don't expect that from a P. It has enough lows, sparkly highs but also a lot of pushing mid. The bass was very well audible in the mix. Pushy but low. I'm in love!!
It doesn't sound like my 76er, but it has another body and pick up. I don't have much experience with the 60s and modern Birds, but I think it sounds more like that!
Thumbs up for Rob and BaCH. Both did a great job!
No bad things, besides the neck diving? Tuners and pots/knobs are cheap, but we knew that.
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Now that you've touched our wedding gift..........When do I get to have it ;)
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How about pictures? :mrgreen:
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Thank you so much for the report. I can't even tell you how excited I am about these. Downright giddy, actually!
Soooo.. when do we begin the *cough* 4005 clone *cough*?? ;D
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Sound. Great. You hear the real nosy (is that English?) but warm Gibson/mahogany sound.
I think the word you're looking for is nasal.
Anyway, I'm glad they've finally arrived and that it's everything you hoped for.
I sure hope the US buyers hear from Bach soon.
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Soooo.. when do we begin the *cough* 4005 clone *cough*?? ;D
Man, if only. I can hear the rustle of legal documents already.
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I think the word you're looking for is nasal.
Anyway, I'm glad they've finally arrived and that it's everything you hoped for.
I sure hope the US buyers hear from Bach soon.
'Nasal' was my first thought, but I thought that would be bad English too. In Dutch we say 'nasaal'.
@ MarK: I'll do the pink fairy glitter refinish first and then it's on its way!
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Gibson Non Revs are neck-heavy too. Like hell and much more than any Rev Bird. Great to hear they turned out so well!
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I hope you get yours too, Uwe. It'll be nice to see the BaCH one next to a real one.
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(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/chrispdekker/IMG_5887.jpg)
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Well, let's put it this way, it bears a passing similarity to another - long deleted - bass model whose origin and brand I cannot recall right now. :-X
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My gosh that is pretty.
I haven't really followed this saga very closely. What is the pickup?
Also, I don't know what tuners it came with, but a set of Hiphot Ultralights cured my Greco's neck-diving tendencies:
(http://www.bestguitarparts.com/productimages/25.jpg)
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Neck diving. You just have to work, playing a Bird. I like that:)
The pick up is an Artec. They also make nice mudbucker copies and lots of other pick ups.
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...don't get too excited, don't get too excited...
I'm trying not to lose my cool. I can be very patient. :o
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Shameless taunting from my internet fiance................. :-[
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Gibson Non Revs are neck-heavy too. Like hell and much more than any Rev Bird. Great to hear they turned out so well!
I'm surprised. I've never played a non rev, but I would have assumed they would be better balanced due to having something resembling an upper horn.
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Whatever they attempted, absence of a centerblock made them lighter and therefore neck-heavy. Or "heavy" is the wrong word as the bass is essentially light, just totally unbalanced.
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It's also partly that Gibson, in most of their designs, liked to put a couple inches wood behind the bridge, which shifts the center of gravity in that direction. I dunno why they designed that way... purely visual aesthetics I'd guess.
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Whatever they attempted, absence of a centerblock made them lighter and therefore neck-heavy. Or "heavy" is the wrong word as the bass is essentially light, just totally unbalanced.
The BacHbird weighs 5 kilograms. That is not exactly light. ;)
Perhaps that is why the neckdive isn't too severe.
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Just stitch a piece of velcro on the shoulder of your favorite gig shirt, and the other piece on your strap.
Nice white finish. Like a good fleet rental car, it makes a nice base for whatever color you want to put over it. By design?
5kg = 11 lbs, roughly?
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I like the looks of that, I want one too!
Can somebody give me a link to their website?
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Now, Rob, you're the one who started this whole fantastic journey! You took us through dreams, nightmares, and towards a sun-a-rising in the happy east (east as Czech that is). I understand you've received your bass, Your Baby in fact. So how do you think she works? Are you satisfied, or do you feel like Muddy Waters who couldn't be just that, satisfied? I guess a lot of us wonders the same. So, come on! Give us your opinion! The full story! I'm really curios!!!
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I still can't believe I have my own custom built non reverse thunderbird for such a price!
It is not just a nice bass for the money. It is a great bass. (and a huge one too ;D )
I've put on a heavier gauge strings, 'cause that is what I'm used to. I intonated it (because of those heaver strings). I'm glad I talked BaCH into making the bridge slightly wider -than the original- to allow for more saddle travel. So accurate intonation is a piece of cake on the BaCHbird.
The neck feels smooth, it plays like butter.
The sound is great as far as I can judge from playing it with headphones only. I haven't heard the BaCHbird with the band yet.
But so far it sounds really powerful.
Here's a small example. Straight into the desk. No eq. Sloppy playing ;)
BaCHbird soundsample (http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird.mp3)
The pickpuard looks a little too small as far as I can tell from the pictures that I've seen from the original.
I'll report some more once I've played it with the band.
But this bass is definitely growing on me. I'm loving it more every minute!
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That sounds birdlike for sure. At least a member of the right species. Nice.
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Sounds very good.
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I agree with everything Rob says. I did use it with the band. It sounds great and warm, but it cuts though too!
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The mp3 sounds a lot like a 60's bird to me. Hopefully Bach will figure out shipping to the U.S. soon.
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I'm starting to get a nervous tick.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/icon_hyper.gif)
I can't wait for Santa.
C'mon and giddyup BaCH!
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Im way too excited about this bass. Now even more so with the Woody-esque sound bite . He would be excited as well. I see the new govt mule bass player pictured with a bird. i have not seen them in a few years ,but I here he is a monster,of sorts. I love the white but Im having evil thoughts 'bout Inverness green,which I happen to have a can of...... :mrgreen:
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Sounds a little fatter and more even than a sixties Bird. As you would expect from a newly produced bass. Impressive.
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Sounds a little fatter and more even than a sixties Bird. As you would expect from a newly produced bass. Impressive.
I tend to agree, also sounds a little more compressed, but could be recording or settings.
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anyone need a pick guard ;D now in .060 thickness (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/75J004.jpg)
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Yep, how much is it?
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I want one maybe. Even two, maybe, for a friend wo receives a BaCH soon.
Rob: Misschien dan twee of drie tegelijk bestellen (ook voor Colin) als ze betaalbaar zijn? Kan het in één pakketje.
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Scott:
Looks excellent! What (if anything) is stuffed inside that pickup? I have a couple of those covers just waiting!
anyone need a pick guard ;D now in .060 thickness
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This is probably the pickup Bach uses (the silver one without the exposed poles), seems musicman-ish to me.
(http://www.artecsound.com/pickups/f-pickups/images/34.jpg)
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No not MusicMan-ish.
It has an Alnico bar magnet.
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No not MusicMan-ish.
It has an Alnico bar magnet.
And steel blades; so it is a blade pickup with AlNiCo 5 magnets. Dunno if the AlNiCo is the blades or beneath the blades...........
NICE!
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I don't think it has blades, most likely steel rods with alnico magnet behind the rods.
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BaCH ensured me it's an AlNiCo bar.
so I guess it's the MDA4N
Cover: plated plastic
Pole pieces: steel bar
Bobbin: plastic
Bottom: epoxy
Color options : sv, gd
MDA4N, MDA4B (Alnico bar)
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Pick guards are $72.00 each plus shipping.
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Thanks for the PM Scott! I'll think about it!
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Of course Gibson controls don't fit the smaller shafts of cheap pots. But today I remembered I had two mirror caps of an Epi EB0 somewhere. One of them is a bit broken, but you can;t see that. Here are two pics. I know I put volume on tone and tone on volume, but I don't care. Never use 'm;)
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Wowie zowie! What a delightful trip this've been! Even though I still have not heard a word from Bach, the flag's spinning around it's poole. Around and around, as Mr Berry once put it!
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Took the BaCHbird to rehearsal last night.
Great reactions from the band.
Playing the BaCHbird is hard work. Without any doubt the least ergonomical bass the I own. Heavy and neckheavy. And to make things worse the lower regions are really almost out of reach. So your left hand sort of gets tired after a while.
But none of that comes as a surprise. That is just how the Non Reverse Thunderbrid was designed...
The sound is good. I cuts through and is "there".
The BaCHbird does not have that typical "mid growl" or "bark" that my other Tbird does have (a Greco). But maybe that one sounds more seventies rather than sixties.
I am most definitely going to install a second humbucker. Now don't get me wrong: the Artec humbucker really does a great job. But I happen to be a fan of the sound of two humbuckers.
Tonight I placed an extra strapbutton on the neck heel, just past the joint (at the 15th fret). No more neck dive!
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I'm telling you man, lightweight tuners will make your left hand happy.
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I used the bass with Boilersuit last night. My three piece band. And she sounds nice there too!! Very warm and great for all those melodic walks.
Of course I'm used to a neck diving bird and I had no problems with it. It dives but I don't mind. The acces to high notes is great, but tuning is bad. I almost can't reach the G-tuner:)
It does sound much better with mirror caps.
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It does sound much better with mirror caps.
:mrgreen:
As do modern birds with chrome parts.
Herr Carlston, please see the HR Department immediately for this inflammatory remark. Take a cardboard box with you, security will help you on your way out.
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Except Chris P and Basvarken has anyone had news from Bach?
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:mrgreen:
As do modern birds with chrome parts.
Hey, it's all in the head.
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:mrgreen:
As do modern birds with chrome parts.
Herr Carlston, please see the HR Department immediately for this inflammatory remark. Take a cardboard box with you, security will help you on your way out.
They can fire me, silence me, and shut me down, but they'll never stop the chrome!
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NR birds are long ! you get used to it at least I have. I have long arms so it's not much of a problem for me. every time I get a NR I move the strap button to the heel of the neck, it helps but does not eliminate neck dive. Again you get used to chasing the headstock around stage. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/gartonscot2a_5.jpg)
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I move the strap button to the heel of the neck
Someone else did the same thing-
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/Musicians/Johngibsonthunderbird.jpg)
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I'll abmit to having limited experience, but my first NR bird (that I bought lightly used in 1969) had three strap buttons, just like the one on ebay now. I thought three buttons were standard.
(http://i11.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/1c/95/0698_12.JPG)
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John you know I never knew JAE used NRs till I started hanging out online ! The first time I saw a picture of him playing one was at the pit. Nice to know I have good taste in basses after all these years !
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I found this clip today of Leo Wilkeson playing one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mioGewkWVdo
Then found the clip of him playing a Fenderbird that looks like mine. If I remeber correctly it was given to him by JE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBwTAGgsRoQ
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That bird of his sure attracted a whole lot of beautiful birds...
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Leons bass had custom inlays and he also used it during the reformed Lynyrd Skynyrd days. By then it was refinished and modified with a different bridge (Schaller 460?) and EMG pickup:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/doombass/basist/LeonWilkeson-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/doombass/basist/leon1-1.jpg)
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BTW. I suppose that Bach can't handle their email inbox very well. I sent them my phone contact last Wednesday. Today I got the request once again. ;D
That probably means they have'nt shipped my bass yet....
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At least you've heard from them. That's a good sign.
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Mmmmmmmmmm................Good thing my panties aren't in a twist :gay:
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Because of the BaCH I was watching some pics on nonrev Birds. Some of them have black headstocks (I see it on sunburst, red and white Birds) and others have matching headstocks. What's the story?
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The way I remember is that stock burst ones had black headstocks and custom color ones had painted headstocks. the theory was that refinned ones sometimes left the headstock black.
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That about sums it up John.
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Leons bass had custom inlays and he also used it during the reformed Lynyrd Skynyrd days. By then it was refinished and modified with a different bridge (Schaller 460?) and EMG pickup:
And check out the funky "upper horn extender".
Too bad about the EMG. I LOVED EMGs for a long time. It's only been in the past 3-4 years that I've "deactivated" all my basses except for my fretless Kramer lumie. That thing sounds too good to mess with.
Back on topic.... Anyone try fitting a proper non-rev pickguard on a Bach yet?
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I'm thinking of ordering one, but I dunno yet.
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I'd be happy to send you a tracing to see if one would fit.
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That would be nice. 72 dollars is too much to pay for something of which I am not sure it fits.... If it fits I'll buy one!
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You have to remember these are American Peso's the dollar is long dead.
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The first action shots with BaCHbird :-)
Last night in Culemborg
(http://www.delek.nl/Jalbums/StoneFly/slides/StoneFly_123_13122008.jpg)
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Mooi man!
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Cool Rob!
I haven't tried her with the Orange yet. How's she sounding? I only tried the bass with a Fender BXR300 in one rehearsal room and with a Trace Elliot. Next week I'll take the Orange +4x10 with me.
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Wow Sure looks right !
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SOoooooooooooo unfair!
Still no love for us Amis :-\
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You look happy, even enthusiastic. :thumbsup:
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Looks like you're enjoying the hell out of it!
For the record, still heard nothing from Bach and I emailed the person listed right after his name was posted.
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Even the outfit is a bit Entwistle, Rob!
A Dutch guy didn't hear anything either. He mailed this week and they told them they're very busy. I'm sure you'll have it soon!!
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Yeah I had a rockin' good time. The pub was crowded, the band was tight, the BaCHbird was growling
and I had my new stage outfit ;)
So I had every reason to be smiling 8)
I am sorry you guys still haven't heard from BaCH. I tried to make them move faster but it does not seem to help... :-\
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I sent an email to them today. We'll see if I get a reply. One thing I noticed on the BaCH website - Roman is the executive contact, but they list another person for invoicing.
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Can one of you guys PM me the contact email please, I have nothing.
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Can one of you guys PM me the contact email please, I have nothing.
Ditto, and thanks!
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I just sent you an email, with the address
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Thank you Rob! :)
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Thank you Rob! :)
Likewise!
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Ooo, can I get in on this email action? I'm only going to be in the states for two more months, I want to get my grubby fingers on this thing before I leave.
Way cool pictures by the way. it too me a moment to realize how your strap was connected to the bass, it looked kinda freaky at first.
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Agree with everything said here above! Really cooool bass, and of course it shall hang loooow. Could you send me the adress to the Bach invoice man, too, Rob? Thanks!
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Haven't got the address for the invoice man.
Just use the address you already have
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This is probably it: bartos@bachmusik.com
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I think I have never seen a picture of you( Rob) playing & smiling like that?
The bass looks great on you. Strange seeing a white bass on you though.
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I'd like that too when you get a chance. Thanks!
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Me also ,thanx .M
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D'ya suppose we could take up a collection and have Uwe "collect" them for us...........Germans have a way.
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Jawohl, Czechs have a habit of listening to us. I mean it's pretty much like we're one country!
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And IIRC they are in what was once called the Sudetenland.
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"I mean it's pretty much like we're one country!"
Hrrrm, don't tell anybody that you've seen me around! If so, my reputation concerning historic facts might be ...destroyed? Is that ze word? ...gotta change my name, too. The German Westfal won't do anymore... (leaves room, leaning forwards, looking angious over shoulder, heading for the far away mountains)...
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Jawohl, Czechs have a habit of listening to us. I mean it's pretty much like we're one country!
Hmmm.......this time the Amis will be with you! Rommel and Patton ;)
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Yeah, I emailed both of those contacts before the Birds took flight. Still nothin'.
I'll be patient though. How many Birds made it to their destination so far, two?
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Oh yeah, great pics Rob.
That bass looks damn cool. 8)
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Yeah, I emailed both of those contacts before the Birds took flight. Still nothin'.
I'll be patient though. How many Birds made it to their destination so far, two?
AFAIK just the two, Rob and Chris.
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Just the two?
Well, we'll have to wait for them to finish the rest. :bored:
I'm quite sure that they don't have dozens of Birds just sitting there waiting to be shipped.
They must be stalling while they try to get the next couple finished.
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There are 50 BaCHbirds.
10 -that I know of- have been delivered at their new owner.
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In a sweeping strategic strike into the Czech heartland I have confiscated the other 40.
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Wow, a daring dailight raid...Are they all finished and outfitted to the same spec? Any "bare-bones models?
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In a sweeping strategic strike into the Czech heartland I have confiscated the other 40.
So, we're making a little progress anyway... 8)
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Still waiting for mine, it's been payed so i'm awaiting delivery... hopefully before x-mas.
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There are 50 BaCHbirds.
10 -that I know of- have been delivered at their new owner.
That's good news. They aren't just sitting on them. I guess it's just taking them time to get going on these.
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I ordered an Epiphone Thunderbird case for the BaCHbird the other day. I had to because it doesn't fit in any of the cases nor gig bags I have...
The guy at the store assured me the case would fit a Non Reverse Thunderbird. The right dimensions, etc. And from the pictures I saw I did not forsee any problems.
Yesterday the case arrived. Of course the guy of the store was wrong.
It had a shaped interior. Shaped for the Reverse Thunderbrid. The case in the pics was not shaped...
So I had two options:
1- send it back and start the quest for a case all over again.
2- take out the toolbox...
So I took out the toolbox and took out the compartment of the body. Tore off the plush. Cut the polystyren to shape. And glued it all back together again.
So now it fits:
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case2.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/emptycase.jpg)
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good job, looks like it twerked :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Nice! Good work, Rob. Now you're excused if you just lean back and enjoy!
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There are 50 BaCHbirds.
10 -that I know of- have been delivered at their new owner.
The question being, were any of them on this side of the pond?
Still waiting :-\
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10? Not bad at all. That's great news!
Beautiful job on the case Rob!
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Just checking to see if anyone here in the States has gotten a reply from BaCH? I think I'm in a race to see which comes first - the BaCHbird or my Scroll bass. The Scroll bass was paid for and ordered about 1 1/2 years ago.
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Still no love for this Ami.............
Amazing, even Gibson got me something sooner, looks like Mike Lull will too. :-\
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Just checking to see if anyone here in the States has gotten a reply from BaCH? I think I'm in a race to see which comes first - the BaCHbird or my Scroll bass. The Scroll bass was paid for and ordered about 1 1/2 years ago.
Hey, at least you didn't order a Rickenbacker. ;D
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I got some good news today. Mine is at the post office but I must to wait until Friday to collect it.
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Hey that's great news. Do you know if any of the other Swedish guys got their BaChbird?
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I sent a greeting their way before the fat guy came down the chimney & did get a holiday greeting from Mr. Bach :mrgreen:
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Another Dutch guy got it some days ago.
Rob Basvarken asked for a Gibson copy and to have it completely right he also asked BaCH for Gibson customer service. You can't blame Rob for that!
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At least he didn't ask for Gibson's present-day finish quality.
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Hey that's great news. Do you know if any of the other Swedish guys got their BaChbird?
No news there I'm afraid.
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Danne!
Have you picked up the bass yet?? I'm out of town so i have no idea if the bass has arrived or not.
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Seb, the Postal Service messed up. Since I live inbetween two major post offices one of them recieved the bass and sent a note to me. When I got there today they discovered that someone obviously had sent the bass to the other office where we usually pick up our parcels. The tracking number said Örebro so maybe they sent it all the way there to be reloaded. I could'nt help but just laughing about it. What's a few days more, hah hah.
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The Bachbird arrived at my doorstep today. It is very well built and I also discovered it is quite much heavier than my Bicentennials. I've only tested it soundwise through my practice amp (Roland Basscube 30). It seems a bit brighter sounding than my other Mahogany Gibsons and I suspect the pickup is responsible for that. It'll make a nice change and I'll keep it stock for now. I have yet to try it in a real rig. Hope all of you on the other side of the pond recieve yours also very soon. No word yet?
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I'm SO jealous..............
Still no love for the Amis, not even an email.
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Congrats Daniel!
I sent BaCH another email today to ask them why the rest of the world still hasn't heard a single word from them. No reply so far...
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It is very strange that they're still taking so long, since they have the product in stock and buyers waiting to pay them.
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We were talking about that on a Dutch bass forum. Maybe they only built 15? Or maybe they still haven't found out how to avoid exporting problems to USA?
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I would think that any import taxes or charges would be the buyer's responsibility. If there's an exporting problem in Czech law, why wouldn't they just come out and say that they're having a problem? Why the silence?
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Hello non-reversed, my old friend
I've come to be silent with you agin...
(and so on)
Ps Don't mention this to Paul Simon. He might want composers credit for it. Or should it be de-composit credit in this case? ds
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It could also be an issue with shipping costs. I found out recently, when I shipped a bass to Spain, that UPS wanted $700 to ship, while the USPS did it for $110.
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Shipping cost seems like a probable reason to me. Let's just hope at least Rob recieves an answer what the issue is causing this stall.
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The buyer pays all shipping. It won't be BaCH's expense, so why would that cause a delay?
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The buyer pays all shipping. It won't be BaCH's expense, so why would that cause a delay?
Maybe they're concerned with possible order cancellations. It still doesn't make sense, since they haven't really approached us with a cost, and they'd probably have little trouble selling the basses even if a number of people cancelled.
I want my BaCHBird, dammit.... :mrgreen:
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Maybe the order like 10 or 15, pay the factory, order 15 again, ...
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What I find strange, is that there's Swedes who've got their Bachbirds, and others, like me, who hasn't. Now, that is something to discuss in small groups! Then: return to The Board. Report!
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What I find strange, is that there's Swedes who've got their Bachbirds, and others, like me, who hasn't. Now, that is something to discuss in small groups! Then: return to The Board. Report!
The only Swede that has received his BaCHbird -that I know of- is Daniel. Haven't heard from any of the other Swedes...
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I like to think that the "50 sitting in a warehouse" was just a stall tactic, and that they are actually building and deploying these slow-and-meticulously, one-by-one.
Either that, or they are just taunting us.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/FrenchTaunt.gif)
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Because the BaCH is no Gibson I don't mind some minor changes.
Today I mounted a Fender cover. I ordered a P one, cos that looks like a Gibson one, but isn;t this a Jazzer?
Well, it looks like this:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/chrispdekker/IMG_5941.jpg)
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/chrispdekker/IMG_5942.jpg)
I also have this non chrome cover on my EB3. Shall I mount it on the Bird?
Do or don't?
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/chrispdekker/IMG_5943.jpg)
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/chrispdekker/IMG_5944.jpg)
BTW: I'm still looking for a nice set of chrome covers for my '76 Bird, but they're either too expensive or they aren't willing to ship to Europe. 17th of March is my birthday. You know what to do......:D
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I have to admit, it does look good Chris! Even if it's a 7ender cover... ;)
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And the bridge-thingy? Do or don't?
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Why not? The only thing is the difference in shinyness. Or is it the picture?
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Nope, the Fender cover is chrome and shiny new. The bridge cover is stainless steel. No chrome.
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or nickel?
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Great job, man! The Bird looks fantastic with both covers on.
I checked my 65 P-bass, and belive the neck cover to be, as you suspected yourself, a J-cover. My advise is to wait for a T-bird neck cover to show up. That's what look best. Are there any Epiphone covers around that would fit?
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Thanks!
Like I wrote: I'm looking for T-bird covers for my 76, but the ones I find are rather too expensive or not shippable to Holland.
But if you find 'm.. Please let me know!
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Is this the one you should have in neck position? http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Gibson-NOS-Parts-Chrome-Thunderbird-Hand-Rests_W0QQitemZ250350207816QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item250350207816&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1318
I bought one from Seattle, or somewhere, a couple of years ago, but lost it in a transaction along the way. For that one, I paid around $50.00. So I think the asking price, $60.00, is quite OK...
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This one also only ships to the US. And 60 dollar covers on a 160 dollar bass...
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160euros Chris!
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Ships to Europe, 6 in stock!
Smoking barrels, lock and stock!
Give your system an -09 chock!
Or hang your head, and loose your...
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I bought one of those covers from greatdealz67.
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Listen, Doombass, listen. Tell me all there is to know about the cover. Is that piece for the neckpickup, or is it, hrrrm, for the bridge pickup? Now, take your time before you answer. Remember that there are quiet a few of us, here in the forum, who wants as exact information as possible. And, let me remind you: If you wan't talk, well... let's just say... Fi häf väjs to mäjk jo tåk...
Are zere any Tshörmänns among you?!!!
Uwe ;D
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That cover is indeed a NOS (New Old Stock) original cover meant to sit over the neck pickup of the '76-'79 Gibson Thunderbirds. I bought it for my '77 Sunburst. I don't have any recent pics of mine so I borrowed this one instead:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/Basses/79ThunderbirdburstbodyII.jpg)
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I got my bass today. Very good bass for a really good price.. SWEEET!
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Where are you from Macahan? Country I mean.
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Where are you from Macahan? Country I mean.
Sweden...
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Congrats Macahan! I'm glad to hear there's still BaCHbirds being delivered.
Hopefully the rest of the gang will hear from BaCH soon.
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AAAARGHHHH that's not fair!!!!! Everyone got his bass except meeeeee!!!!!
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Maybe you guys will have to get them to buy & import them to you.
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That's fantastic news on the new bass delivery!
I'm still of the belief that they are shipping basses as each one is finished.
I can't believe that they blasted out 50 or so basses and are now taking their time in shipping them.
Maybe they just wanted to get the first basses in people's hands as soon, and as uncomplicated as possible, hence not shipping to
us yanks first?
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I've checked and re-checked The Bach site over and over. And I've come to the conclusion that the € 160 the company demands for the Bird is a strange figure. For that is right? €160?
The bridge and tailpiece for the same bass stops at € 62,5 in their own catalogue on the net. Now, isn't there something weird if the rest of the bass, including body, mechanics, pickup, neck, and electronics, then should stop at only € 97,5?
Just noticing. Nothing that I hold against our little adventure, which I hope will be a lovely trip.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying Staffan?
Do you think it's too cheap?
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Oh no, oh no! Well, to be honest... Yes... It's very cheap. But not too cheap, for Gods sake!
But my point is that it's strange to have a bridge/tailpiece at €62,5 when the whole bass is €160,0. I mean, it's almost like some of the other stuff on that bass, tuners, pickup, or something else, comes as a bonus!! Comprende? I think it's great, of course!
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I'm not sure, but my guess is that this is a way for BaCH to compensate the developers cost of the bridge.
As you can see in the picture of the saddles on the seperate bridge are notched. Maybe they got the complete series in from their Korean manufacturer and then discovered they were notched. So they're trying to sell them.
I never asked them to build these bridges. When the project started I asked for a standard 7ender type bridge.
But at a certain point they asked me for the dimensions of the original Gibson bridge and detailed pics etc. So I just kept my mouth shut and provided them with all the information they asked me.
They even tried to make a chromed clone of the pickup, but that turned out to be too expensive for this project...
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In that case it could be that Bach only got 50, at most, of these bridges. Which, in turn, means they might be gone before too long. And we all know how hard they are to find! Maybe it's time for some drastic economic extavaganzes! And a time to look into the future, and coming projects! Banzai...!!!
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Maybe they're doing one country at the time. The Netherlands were first. Then Sweden.
Now our Belgian friends are next. On a Dutch forum they're telling me they've received an invoice from BaCH.
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Yes, one country after another. A trusted recipe. Netherlands today, tomorrow the world.
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Just got an email from BaCH after I sent them a furious email about never replying any of my emails:
I am very sorry - busy , fearful
Why ? I was not 100% open to You beecause We didn´t believe in such
demand of BaCH TH-1 and We made 20 pcs only . . . to limit a drug. Uwe's snide edit: Perhaps he means "unlimited drugs"?
The rest of 30 pcs should be finished next month .
Rob I do a very big respect to You .
If You can make a pardon on me .
I have been very busy and under stress with the "shity" business.
We will finished them 10 pcs white , 10 pcs black , 10 pcs blue sonic.
I have sent some mails to the guys.
This week We are sending last two guitars to Holland and Belgium.
Yours sincerely ,
Roman
BaCH Music , Czech
Can you believe it!? ???
The colour choice eludes me. I never asked them for that.
Now they have a huge problem if people would rather stick to the white one.
Or rather have one in red, or green or...etc
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I'd prefer a white one, so my other 3 friends that I have order for them. Its better to send him an email to finish all of the rest basses in white Rob.
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If I had a choice, I'd take blue before black, but whatever color I'll take it.
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It was wrong to ever heartlessly and prematurely curtail our largely efficient and benevolent administration of that country and leave these people to their own devices, sigh. ;) Reminds me of the late Queen Mum's general comment on former Black-African dominions, a PC unadulterated observation I might add: "These poor people haven't done very well for themselves since we are no longer taking care of them, have they?" :mrgreen:
But before everyone despairs now: As this thread amply tells, those basses do get made (not to exact specifications but still impressive and well-sounding we hear) eventually and you'll always have something to tell your grandchildren about. If anybody wishes to bow out for color reasons, I'll gladly take his place. I don't really need a replica non-rev, but the ups and downs of how these basses have come into existence has meanwhile endeared them to me. Rather than Bachbird, we should christen them "Rob's Blood, Sweat & Tears"-Birds!
Uwe
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If they ever get to the US I'd prefer white for both of mine but I guess we'll see...
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If they ever get to the US I'd prefer white for both of mine but I guess we'll see...
Despicable hoarder you are!
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Holy cow- they really are building them one at a time! And they're running out of white paint :o ;D
Am I the only one that pictured Roman curled up in a fetal position under his desk as he typed that (extremely bizarre) letter? Ah well... ya gotta appreciate the sheer entertainment value in all of this! haha
Thanks, Rob for taking time to look out for the rest of us.
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Well, I guess we can stop fretting for a little while. I wouldn't mind a blue one. I just hope they actually follow through on all this. I'm still in. If it comes to fruition, it looks like I'll be getting the BaCHBird about the same time I get my Scroll bass.
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If you get white, you have a primer coat for any other color. So you can pick your poison color-wise, and they have done all the prep work.
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Our Swedish poet, Karen Boye, wrote this somewhere, I guess it was in the 1930's: "It's not the goal, that makes the trip worthwhile. It's the journey". I guess that could be said about this affair, too. Or as the hippies put it, back in days I can hardly remember: "What a long strange trip it's been".
"A very interesting journey", I think Stjofön Big said that, must have been in January... was it -08, or -09? Well, I guess most of has got something to play with (you may NOT cite me on that one) even before the Bachbird arrives. And concerning colour, well, I always liked surprises...
Cheers!
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Swedish poet, my ass! ;) ;) ;) If Karen Boye is supposed to have come up with "it's the journey, not the destination" (often attributed to Confucius, but more likely evolved from millenium old Tao teachings), then Pippilotta Viktualia Rullgardina Krusmynta Efraimsdotter Långstrump
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Pippi_Langstrumpf_Pippi_Longstocking.jpg/180px-Pippi_Langstrumpf_Pippi_Longstocking.jpg)
is Chinese. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ooops, maybe she is ...
(http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:e-AZCzAT3tqNIM:http://hometown.aol.de/assarbubbla/images/lindgren_pippi_chinesisch.jpg)
BTW: Looking at the story behind this thread and the length of it, this Confucius saying is even more fitting:
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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I'm patient so I can wait for BaCH, I haven't sent them any $$$ so.............meh! I'll take whatever they send.
I find it amusing that Mike developed and got a new bass to market in less time, for that matter Gibson shipped a new bass too................. ;)
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Maybe they are avoiding the US for other reasons?
Certainly that had to cross someone else's mind?
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It should be said that Karen Boye eventually comitted suicide. So I guess her trip was not worth the journey. Concerning Conf***ius I guess he was a late learner. Boyes truth is probably as old as humanity...
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I don't to become an Uwe look-a-like but as you all know I'm in love with his blue Nonrev. That could be the colour for my BaCH. Does anybody know the RAL code for this colour? Or another way to get it quite right? I believe there were some posts at the ole Dudepit about colour names, codes, ..
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Maybe they are avoiding the US for other reasons?
Certainly that had to cross someone else's mind?
As we post, the Bush Administration in one of its last formal acts has started a military operation against the Czech Republic, that vile intellectual property thieving rogue state close to Russia. The name of the operation is "enduring trademark", General Henry J. is in charge of operations.
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With Roman's latest email to Rob, I think the problem is just that they didn't make enough. No reason (at least yet) to think they're avoiding the US.
Too bad Roman just didn't come right out and say they only had 20. :-\
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Alles wird gut. They're just a bit Eastern European, ok? But they'll get to it.
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You know guys, I've been pondering to trace the shape of my Eastwood Stormbird and start making Non-reverse "Blazerbirds" either with Bolt on or glued in necks.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_0915.jpg)
It's close enough. Yet different enough not to be a straight copy.
If any of you is interrested in getting one of those feel free to ask.
My black "Blazerbird" is still for sale
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Maybe you and Rob have to work together. Both Dutch. Both NR fans. You have to be a nice team!!
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I'm about ready to give up on Bach.
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Has anyone in the US received a reply?
Although I do think Daves' probably right, they just didn't make that many in the first Ba(t)CH!
Waiting patiently............................................
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I think someone in the US mentioned at least getting an email response, a few pages back.
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I just got an email from BaCH. More or less, Roman said that they only built those twenty basses in the first pass - mainly to get the kinks worked out. He said there might have been some structural issues with those; therefore, he did the sensible thing and dumped them on the European market. Now he said they can get on with building the real basses, and he'll be in touch...
Just kidding :). Actually, it read more like this:
Dear Joe ,
We are very sorry for so late with our reply and TH-1 bass You ordered them before months.
If You are forefront on the list We had to send first 20 pcs to guys from Europe because of
much easy way , Christmas busy time .
I would like ask You for a patience because sending to USA is not very easy due to need to takes
each bass in Custom house .
We made only 20 first pieces last Year . Now We are working on the rest of them.
You can get it ( be sent) the end of February or March.
Pls take our deep apologies. We will try to do our best for You.
Sincerely ,
Roman
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Today I got another guilt ridden email from him. He promised to send all the guys on the list an email.
By the way there is a thing I would want to improve on this bass. The pickguard isn't accurate. It will give you trouble if you try to install a second pickup.
Plus I would've left the BaCH logo off the headstock. The one on the trussrod cover is enough.
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I got nuthin'............ :-\
Anybody else from the U.S.?
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All right, I'll be patient. Don't we have someone here who can whip us up some blank trussrod covers?
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Now we're cookin' with grease. I like how this is coming together.
The new color options seem a bit odd to introduce at this stage of the game though.
I'll take a guess that it's a good-will offering for those of us who were left in the dark.
That's nice of them. I'd prefer the white finish as well, if given the choice.
Looks like us folks across the pond will be looking at some extra costs in getting these into the country, eh?
I wonder how many total instruments they sold in 2008?
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roman's english reads like one of those nigerian scam letters. hmm...
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Haha! :mrgreen:
Yeah, but I bet it's still better than your Czech :rimshot:
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I played my bach through the amp first time this weekend. DAMN, it's a GOOD sounding bass..
It's actually awesome.
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I just got the same e-mail from Roman that chromium got, and I'm not even in the top 50 of the list. Sounds like they're pulling it together.
Still wondering if anyone has tried a "real" non-rev pickguard on one of these.
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As of today I still have nothing >:(
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I just got the same email from Roman, and I'm not in the top 50 either.
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I just got the same e-mail from Roman that chromium got, and I'm not even in the top 50 of the list. Sounds like they're pulling it together.
Still wondering if anyone has tried a "real" non-rev pickguard on one of these.
I have NR pickguardsif ya need 'em (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/75J004.jpg)
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All right, I'll be patient. Don't we have someone here who can whip us up some blank trussrod covers?
Just got back from the Florida glaciers. Email was waiting for me, too. It's a step in the right direction. As far as the truss rod cover, I'd think any local luthier could whip one up from the BaCH version as easy as anything else.
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I was one of the first that wanted that thing, but got nothing yet. Seems like czechs dont like sunshine.
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I got the same email chromium got today. Anyone know of any way to do the bank transfer thing they're talking about over the internet? I'm going to be very far away from my bank until September.
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No email for me. If my memory serves I was among the first few to sign up. Oh well. Here's hoping it'll work out...
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To All BaCHbirdmen (and Gals!):
I am embarrassed to report that somehow I got an e-mail from Roman at Bach telling me to be patient, and that my bass was likely coming sometime at the end of February or March.
I was the second to the last on the overflow list sent out by Rob (although maybe they work from the bottom of the list going up in the Czech Republic), so I really think that a lot of you should be way ahead of me on this.
I hope that this means that Bach is making more than 50, but my gut feeling is that it is just a mistake. I am just going to stay laid back and see what happens. I will keep everyone informed, because I don't want anyone to get pissed at me for getting ahead of them on the list. Hopefully, in the end, there will be enough for all. Best regards, Rikkimax
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Anyone know of any way to do the bank transfer thing they're talking about over the internet? I'm going to be very far away from my bank until September.
The bank has to witness your signature to initiate a wire. I think there is a way that you can go in and provide them the beneficiary info (BaCH's bank, IBAN number, etc...) and your signature, and they can set it up so you can initiate recurring/repetitive wires over the phone without having to physically go into the bank each time. Even though you are only planning to send one payment to BaCH, this might be a way to stage things so you can send the money telephonically later on when you are out of the country.
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Thanks man.
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As of late today, I finally got some email from Roman. I was up the list too. Strange.
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I just got the same email from Roman.
Not sure where I placed on the list, but I'm pretty sure that I was one of the first to fill an empty spot when switching over to the Czech BaCH plan.
I replied to Roman, thanking him for making contact and that I was looking forward to the completion of the order, etc.
I also requested the total price including shipping, when my order is ready.
Are all the U.S. BaCHbirdmen on this forum?
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His second sentence does say "If You are forefront on the list." I'm not quite sure whether that means he's apologizing if you were high up and didn't get one, or that you'll be able to get them at the end of February or March if you were high up. Or are they now going to be making enough for everybody on the list?
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Haven't heard a word from Bach, even though I know I'm on the list. Wrote them an email couple of month ago, have not heard a word from them in reply. Wonder if the best thing to do, would be to let Roman write his letters in Czech, and then we should have someone translate the letter. That way it would be less risk for misunderstanding Romans words. But where to get a translater?
Maybe it's more exciting to just see what happens? Still, it's mighty strange that some of us gets email from Bach, without being on the list, while others - on the list - don't get a word. But, as Leon Russel once put it: We are strangers in a strange land...
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I did finally get the same aforementioned email from him. I'm giving up my place on the list, so some of you should move up!
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....Or are they now going to be making enough for everybody on the list?
I would think if they are going to be making 10 at a time it would make sense to satisfy all those interested.
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Lets take up a collection and parachute Uwe in to *encourage* progress in that nice German way. ;)
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I dunno. The Czechs had a nice Bohemian way of treating the Volks Deutsch in the summer of 45!
I hope this works out, and I would love to see one of these get on a plane and get over here.
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So.......when everything's said and done, how much to get one of these to the US?
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So.......when everything's said and done, how much to get one of these to the US?
That's the $64,000 question. I know that when I shipped a bass to Spain from here, UPS wanted $730, and USPS did it for about $110. FedEx may be the only option.
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Even without his parachute or encouraging words in a Gestapo interrogation cellar ("Arrre zey safe? Vee haff ze vvvays to make you meet delivery dates ..."), I received an email from Bach too. I certainly wasn't on the list, but I don't mind having one, these basses already now have a legend to them.
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Well, you were on the list. You were going to check the prototype, remember? ;)
And you even asked me if you could join on march 10 2008.
I put a questionmark behind your name because I wasn't sure.
If you don't want a BaCHbird, just send them a reply you'd rather pass. Okay?
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No, I'm quite curious now and want to check one of them out. They look faithful, sound good from the reports of our qualified testers here and have a story to tell.
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I think i was number 51 on the list. Looks like we'll all get one eventually. Looking forward to it!
I just snapped my real non rev, loading it up for a gig, so I need a giggable replacement :-\
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Oh man that sucks Jules ! I just repaired one of mine, check out the thread in projects and repairs
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Too bad, Jules. :sad:
Yes, you're 51 on the list, just ahead of me.
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Ouch that is bad Jules!
The good news is that BaCH is going to make more than just 50.
The first batch was 20. Now they're making a second batch of 50. That makes it a total of 70 BaCHbirds.
Looks like they finally sent all participants an email.
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No, Sir! Not a word from Bach to northern Sweden. No a single word, and I did, of course, not get a single answer to any of the two mails I sent the company, during fall.
Now I'll be gone for a week, down to the southern parts of my lovely country, and - just maybe - hopefully there'll be a pulsating letter waiting when I get home...
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Well, I got some signs of (alien?) czech life, after I send another email to them. They told me to be patient blah blah blah
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No email here. I have hesitated to send one from my end just because of the language barrier, but maybe I should..?
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Received the same email as everyone else, I don't think there is any particular order ( as Dave supposes, I too think they are apologizing to everyone for the delay ) as to shipping...........................we'll see. If BaCH has a North American distributor, I would hope that they would send the hole batch to them and then on to each of us, they could treat it as part of a regular shipment and probably save us a few bucks. Of course if they don't, all bets are off, 160 euro bass, $400.00 shipping & handling! owning a BaCh-bird.......well maybe not priceless :mrgreen:
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I can see it getting to $400 total. That wouldn't be bad at all.
Do they even have an American distributor?
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I shipped a bass out of the U.K. about 2 years ago via Internation Mail (it arrived in Fedex) and my Greco came from Japan.....No problems cost was between 110.00 and 150.00.
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Haven't heard a word from Bach........ :-[
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I should be in mid list on the 1st 20 or so and I only recd the xmas greeting. Nothing else yet........
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I have hesitated to send one from my end just because of the language barrier, but maybe I should..?
Oh please George it's not like they are from Mars are they? :o
If you keep it simple straight forward english I don't see what the problem is.
As for the shipping cost. So far I have no complaints about the shipping costs they charged us Dutch guys. I paid 34 Euro shipping from Czechia to my doorstep.
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Too bad, Jules. :sad:
Yes, you're 51 on the list, just ahead of me.
Jules can officially move up to #50 since I'm bowing out on the Bach. With 5 T-Birds, I think I'm about set for now!
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"With 5 T-Birds, I think I'm about set for now!"
Could you ever have enough Thunderbirds? Not me. I think another 5 are in order ;)
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I don't know about shipping from Europe, but shipping to has gone up considerably since the USPS tightened their size requirements. What cost me $120 18 months ago cost me $300 last fall (a shipment FedEx screwed up that I'm STILL trying to get sorted)!
No matter, if I can make the money appear shipping will be what it is... I'm still excited to get the bass.
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I think i was number 51 on the list. Looks like we'll all get one eventually. Looking forward to it!
I just snapped my real non rev, loading it up for a gig, so I need a giggable replacement :-\
Ouch, is it a bad break? You will get it repaired? Those darn way-too-large headstocks and their risque angle just ask for that too happen. I pretty much gig all my basses, even the sixties birds, but whenever I do I'm a bit anxious. Not worried about the newer ones, and not because they are easier to repurchase, but because they are a lot more stable. You hardly ever encounter a post 87 Bird with a neck snap.
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"With 5 T-Birds, I think I'm about set for now!"
Could you ever have enough Thunderbirds? Not me. I think another 5 are in order ;)
Well, I'm overwhelmed with projects too, So I'm backing off new purchases of any basses in favor of tools/ machinery for the shop. Gotta get ready for retirement! ;D
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Well, anyone here in the States heard anything? I sent off an email to Roman today asking if they expected to ship soon. BTW - I noticed that the email we got came from their customer service email address, so I sent one to Roman directly.
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I got an email from Bach back in January, signed by Roman that said basically the first basses were sent to Europe because it was easiest, but " sending to USA is not very easy due to need to takes each bass in Custom house ."
He goes on to say that they are working on the rest of them and they should go out end of Feb or March.
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I got the same email. It could happen by the end of March, but don't hold your breath.
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Roman hasn't been replying any of my emails lately... :sad:
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Rob, you've done all you can.
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Well, there's still hope. Roman replied to my email. He says to check again next month, and thanked me for my patience.
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Still no news from Roman. It's only the beginning of March though.
It's happening this month, I can feel it. By the end of the month.
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So, what is the deal on these? Is it a case where anyone has lost money?
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No money lost. No deposits were made. They did a run of white ones that seem to have made it to some European buyers (nothing but good reviews as well). Supposedly there will be another run ready soon. If Bach can figure out how to ship them to the States, we Yanks may get lucky and get some.
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In the email I got from Roman, he indicated that the reason they shipped to Europe first was because it was easiest. Shipping here to the USA involves customs, and he said they're working on that.
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A Belgian guy who is a frequent poster on a Dutch bass forum got a rather cryptic email about the BaCHbird from BaCH today:
We are almost ready to send You one pcs of TH-1 .
But I have to be open to You . I am worry a little bit because that time
We were working on the project with Rob I got as a thickness of body size 32mm .
We made them with the size.
The basses are lighter and well-balanced.
Send me pls Your comment .
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What thickness did you agree to?
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The body thickness I gave them was 31,75 mm
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Is he trying to say that he made them thinner than that? It's cryptic, all right.
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I think he is trying to say the new series is thinner. And thus lighter.
Which would result in more neck dive :o
Which is perhaps why he emphasizes on the bass being "well-balanced"??
:-\
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I've got to page 15, Rob... :mrgreen:
I'm gettin' there...
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I think he's just referring to general Czech thickness! :-X
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Rob- how thick are the basses that you, Chris, etc.. received? 31.75mm?
Maybe these new ones are 'wafer thin'
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Bach have sent me a pic of the new body, a "Czech speciality" they say:
(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:PXOTBC3UF8uVaM:http://www.torquato.de/mall/1/pic/it672103373.jpg)
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Did somebody say wafer thin Czech specialty?
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1603/veronicavarekovavv04.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veronicavarekovavv04.jpg)
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Yeah, seems like you're right, that Czech model is gonna be neck heavy although handling might still be good.
Can't someone photoshop a Bachbird into this young lass' hands so we can help Bach with the promotion a little? The bass worth waiting for.
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The bass worth waiting for
Not by me, I'm through waiting. Take my name off the list. >:(
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I need something in my inbox..................... :-\
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Anal sex has nothing to do with it this time, Mark!
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But Herr Moderator I meant ..............*that* inbox ;)
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You're not saying you have two?!!! :o :o :o
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:mrgreen:
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"Ahh, surely one waffer thin mint finish would make all the difference serrrr...?"
"BaCH OfF, I'm confused, and bring me my photobucket..."
Still working on this post... but it just keeps running away from me... :o
Err, just to clarify something sentients, I thought Chris was Marks fiancé...? is Uwe trying to get his ring on Marks finger... or is that a bit below the belt...?
Would anyone understand me if I said... "OPEN THE BOX..." "TAKE THE MONEY..." etc... no, I thought not...
It's the squirrell...! it's the squirrell...! gotta go... (back to trying to read this post...)
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enlighten us yanks why is the squirrell drinking a pint in your avatar ? I fine it very funny............but don't know why.
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Err, just to clarify something sentients, I thought Chris was Marks fiancé...? is Uwe trying to get his ring on Marks finger... or is that a bit below the belt...?
Yeah, the best thing I learned at this board is to never trust a lawyer, especially if they're German lawyers.
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"Ahh, surely one waffer thin mint finish would make all the difference serrrr...?"
"BaCH OfF, I'm confused, and bring me my photobucket..."
;D
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Rob- how thick are the basses that you, Chris, etc.. received? 31.75mm?
Maybe these new ones are 'wafer thin'
No, the first ones are just very thick (just like a Czech brain).
The body of my BaCHbird is 42.5 mm
I wouldn't have minded if the body of my BaCHbird had been actually 31.75 mm, because it is kinda heavy. I wonder how much that extra centimeter weighs...
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"Err, just to clarify something sentients, I thought Chris was Marks fiancé...? is Uwe trying to get his ring on Marks finger... or is that a bit below the belt...?"
Mmmmmm.....Rich German law talkin' guy with a large collection of Gibson basses.
I could do that! ;D
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I'm never going to get to the end of this post... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: sob...
Yes, it could be said that my humour is a bit strange - I guess I will post one of my regular (regular...? me...?) SciFi stories in the cafe and you'll see what I mean...
Scott, you take the red pill and find out just how big the squirrel drey is... or as my wifes KY uncle would say, "gooud eat-in' " (Jackie, my wife, is KY'ian but has been here since 2 weeks before JFK took his last ride in Dallas, so she has an alibi... I was/still am tempted to use the monicker of Ken Tucky if I successfully publish)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3W-TYgq00o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3W-TYgq00o)
There are several other adverts - the Rutger Hauer ones and the White horse one are just as good...
I was a dedicated Guinness drinker up until the news (NEWS, I was DEVASTED...! ) that Guinness was no longer "suitable for vegetarians", which I am - my buddy Graham calls me a "Sad B*st*rd", he knows me too well... He's as carniverous as I am not... probably why we get on so well - sort of like my younger brother, and him vicky-verky... I scanned a beer mat and took out the edging to produce the image, then removed the logo from the glass...
WARNING...! WARNING...! GEEK ALERT...!
sorry...
Chromium - steer clear of Mr Creosote... :mrgreen:
Rob - send the BB over here and I'll check it out for you, my SAW is still quite sharp - room for a sequel... :mrgreen:
Mark, you are the fire and I am the fifty gallon drum of ethanol with the hose and the hand-pump...
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"Err, just to clarify something sentients, I thought Chris was Marks fiancé...? is Uwe trying to get his ring on Marks finger... or is that a bit below the belt...?"
Mmmmmm.....Rich German law talkin' guy with a large collection of Gibson basses.
I could do that! ;D
???
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Could have told you, Chris, you just have no friggin' idea on how to treat a lady. No, it's not all mindless endurance you young men waste in exuberance, it's a question of style. And I've always been attracted to mature women, there is nothing like a pair of experienced hands at home!
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;D
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You guys are the BEST!
;D
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.......I've always been attracted to mature women, there is nothing like a pair of experienced hands at home!
Sooo, Mark's a Cougar now?!! ???
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Ok, make that "experienced claws" then, ouch!
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"Sooo, Mark's a Cougar now?!! "
Buzz,
I must most emphatically deny this.
Gibson basses are THE WAY to this girl's heart.............You have to admit our esteemed moderator has a.........Urrmmm............. a large
collection ;)
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Quite, Fräulein Rommel, although metrically endowed by nature, I can be imperial for you!
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Herr Moderator,
You know just how to sweet talk a girl ;D
And just so you know, soon enough, when BaCH actually decides to send me one I'll have 10 Thunderbirds. Is there a metric equivalent for that?
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Isn't the weather nice for the time of year...
(safer to keep out of this...)
Ohh, sod it, I can't resist...
Metric...? Imperial...? it'll all end up with a terrible case of T'bird Envy...
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DONE IT...! I can't believe it... I finally caught up with myself, I'm sure that was me heading out the door...
Now, all I need is someone who is really cruel to tell me where part I is hidden... :o
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"Sooo, Mark's a Cougar now?!! "
Buzz,
I must most emphatically deny this.
Gibson basses are THE WAY to this girl's heart.............You have to admit our esteemed moderator has a.........Urrmmm............. a large
collection ;)
Yes ma'am! Cougar isn't a bad thing ;) ma'am :) :)
And as for the collection? ;D Could it be that Herr Moderator is kompensating?! ;D ;D :P
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Sorry, Ken, part 1 is gone at Rob's request and wouldn't really tell you anything else significant.
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Sorry, Ken, part 1 is gone at Rob's request and wouldn't really tell you anything else significant.
More of the same, with more hair pulling, teeth gnashing and angst. Then we went underground and started talking in code.
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I remember being part of the original 30...wow that must have been decades ago.
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On a Dutch bass forum one of our Belgian friends told me he got an invoice from BaCH yesterday.
Anyone else got mail?
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Not yet, but I did send an email to Roman a couple days ago checking on the status.
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Somewhere out near the rings of Saturn...
"My God, it's full of BaCHbirds..., and that's mine theerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............."
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Must not.............make bad joke about Uranus :mrgreen:
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You mean like "Uranus has a ring of debris around it."? That's a scientific fact.
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You mean like "Uranus has a ring of debris around it."? That's a scientific fact.
I prefer the sci-fi approach.
"We must circle Uranus to wipe out the Klingons" ;D
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You mean like "Uranus has a ring of debris around it."? That's a scientific fact.
No its just a large ball of toxic gas
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What might an incestuous astronaut say to his daughter?
"Uranus feels better than Mars, but our sun's a black hole."
And I always wonder how BTO got away with singing "Uranus seen nothin' yet". It's probably very dark there though.
:-X :-[
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Bachmann Turner Overweight
Canadians.......................... It probably had to do with a different kind of toxic gas.
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Sometimes I feel this forum is too horny (or should I say SG-shaped?) for public use.
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You guys have it all wrong it's pronounced Urine - us
Much better!
Pee or poop take you pick!
My dog make Uranus in the snow-that lovely yellow Snow!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/Basenjis/P1030145.jpg)
Which all brings us back to Gibson's Pee Yellow, anyone going to refin their Bach Bird Uranus Yellow?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws5Xeu3BEQk
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Chrome Yellow............maybe
Pee Yellow. No. And no brown!
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Arrrrg! I guess,
I take a month or so off from this place and yet it appears the more things change the more.............................I've been waiting for my "invoice" from BaCH since, well forever, I assume the news is, still no love for us Amis?
Oh well, Hello Everyone!
Scott (yeah still the BassVI Scott)
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Hey Scott,
Wondered where you'd gotten off to.........Welcome back :)
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Scott, glad to see you posting again.
I figured you had already gotten your BaCHbird and were keeping it a secret from the rest of us Americans. ;)
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Yeah, welcome back!
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"Doug Fyghter" ;D
Mark, you better have a talk with Chris. He may have multiple personality issues.
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Achhhhhhhh.........
Was ist los Schatzi?
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Everything is explained in the Other Bass Brands forum in the Fernandes Explorer thread
An Mark: You're talking German to me:( You really spend to much time with the lawyer. In Dutch you would have said: Wat is er aan de hand, schatje?
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All fine and good, I don't know any Dutch - you're supposed to teach me ;)
However I will not be lending you any wigs for your new alter-ego........A girl just has to have her own things. :gay:
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;D
Even if I started growing my hear, it would take years and I would end up looking like Francis Rossi of Status Quo instead of one of the guys of Europe:(
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Does this mean you're starting some kind of 80's "hair" band thingy?
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No, I need all my spare time for Boilersuit and my new 60s/70s band The La La Lies (songs and vid online soon!).
I'm just drooling over Explorers lately, like the Warwick Stryker. I didn't knew a German store has the Explorer again and I saw this Fernandes which I like. But I think it suits well in the La La Lies and maybe even Boilersuit.
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... and now Mark's changed her "Bi-line"...
Personality issues...? my psych' tells me I've got no more problems...
No he didn't...!
Yes He Did...!
The two of you cut it out!
Who asked your opinion...?
Yeah, shut it...!
Well sod you too...!
Hair... I remember hair - "HAIR - the ROOT of all evil" was a sticker that used to grace my Tequila(bird) Sunrise case...
Uranus...? Just not going there... ;)
My countryside buddy's family nickname is Captain Methane... :puke:
:mrgreen:
Dutch...? het is allemaal Grieks voor mij, mijn vriend...
Sound's like "Doug's" going NWODHM to me...! he'll be wearing a studded wrist-band next and expounding the virtues of Rob Halford...
And hi to another "SCOTT"...
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;D
Even if I started growing my hear, it would take years and I would end up looking like Francis Rossi of Status Quo instead of one of the guys of Europe:(
Guess you haven't heard the news: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/10/status-quo-francis-rossi-ponytail
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Yep, made some minor headlines over here... :o
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Man, that's a sign I can't ignore. Is his ponytail for sale on eBay yet?
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He took action because his ponytail was about to become a dork knob.
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Mr and Mrs Osbourne have nice black door-knobs, all emblazoned with the family cross...
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WOOHOO just got an email of czech origin!!!! All I can say is WOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!
(http://site-images.ws/images/cust/95382/Happy%20Computer%20Man.gif)
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Cool! I'm very curious about how your BaCH will look:)
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I fear Chris is going through an identity crisis. Or trying to escape an alimony suit. The way he jilted Fräulein Rommel who had offered him her virginity, it does make you wonder what other skeletons might be lurking in the closet. I'm not buying that Fernandes bass story, do I walk around as "The Punisher" just because I have one on those basses Mr Simmons had produced by Fernandes? :rolleyes:
Doug Fyghter must rank as the silliest name in this forum and its predecessors since Nosbig and Donnervogel. In the eighties, I played in a hair metal band calling itself Rat Roze, that was silly too, even though it was my idea ... :-[ :-[ :-[ But at least I tried to look like a mix between John Taylor and Rick Springfield.
I want Chris P back. And his hat. Yes, he's deceived us before with Tbirds pretending to be Ric 4005s or the other way around, but this new split personality thing is hard to stomach. Plus: In that Doug Fyghter look he will be hard to tell apart from Mark. Pointy basses are bad for impressionable young people.
Uwe
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And I thought it to be a pre-April Fools joke
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/misc/Floweratchelmford.jpg)
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No love for the Ami girl yet.............. :-[
From Doug (I miss Chris too)or BaCH...............
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Mark, get Uwe to do his (legal) thing to pour the proverbial oil between you two...
Alternatively, if all else fails, to send in the Panzers... Hell hath no fury...
Uwe - one front at a time, that's where you went wrong, last time...
D "the PIRANHA" F - your new love...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io)
(sorry, closest I could find to FERNANDES... - add groan here...)
Mark, :sad: I'm happy to offer a metaphorical shoulder to cry on (in a totally platonic, little brotherly way, of course) - any LBO's out on the West Coast there to offer her support...?
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My favorite ABBA song. There, I've said it.
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we are the amish band, we are the amish band, we'll come into your town and tear your old barn down we are the amish band!
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Uwe - "Tis a far, far better thing you do, to admit such longings..."
OP - "Tear your old barn down, tear your old barn down..." (apologies Freddie)
"Build it up, build it up, make it big as you will..., build it up, build it up, build it big as you will..., ah know what we lahk, were gonna build this barn tonight" (apologies MC Madman)
apologies to everyone else too for being farmist...
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My favorite ABBA song. There, I've said it.
There are two things I like about ABBA..................and it ain't the songs.
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or is it four...?
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Whenever Scott gets excited, it is about the deepening of cutaways via the application of brute force and the shaving of wood. As most basses only have two cutaways that can thus be vandalized, he must be talking about 2 rather than four.
But I'll better stop now. I really should give Scott a rest. We all need to forgive. And reward. With another vid of those lovely Abba chicks ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_9ih_7Oig
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The greatest ABBA song ever is EAGLE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8E0DbFA1FQ
you may not believe me, but get yourself a guitar (or bass) and a fuzz pedal and play this thing. If Black Sabbath recorded this riff it'd be among the heaviest in their catalog. The fact that its an entirely atypical song for them (metaphysical lyrics and LSD inspired video) and has an outro guitar solo of all things really seal the deal for me.
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I am trying to remember which guitar mag had a "Top 100 guitar solos you wished you played" and a Carpenters song came in top, one place above "Hotel California" - can anyone guess the song, and I can fully understand why it got the vote...
An EB has 4 "potential" cutaways to play with, an RD has only 3...?
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Hey everyone,
Yea, I kinda went away for a while, let's see......started building effect pedals, worked on a few guitar-type projects ( for other people....I'd rather be building for my own consumption ) and my on again off again band is.............................................on again, though that could change.............again!
There are a lot of Scotts here.......guess it's good I have never gone by my first name.....................................David!
Anyway, Hi All! and still no word from BaCh, I've pretty much given up on them.
"David" "Scott" ( BassVI )
Oh......and Chris....Doug Fyghter???? Am I missing something?
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Oh......and Chris....Doug Fyghter???? Am I missing something?
See this thread: http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2082.0
Chris' new bass has "Dog Fighter Bass" pickups, so he's undergoing a personality change.
The doctors say there's still hope he may snap out of it.
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I vote that this thread go to Other Bass Brands. :D
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Whenever Scott gets excited, it is about the deepening of cutaways via the application of brute force and the shaving of wood. As most basses only have two cutaways that can thus be vandalized, he must be talking about 2 rather than four.
But I'll better stop now. I really should give Scott a rest. We all need to forgive. And reward. With another vid of those lovely Abba chicks ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_9ih_7Oig
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Yet another favorite memory from my youth shattered. I remeber them being so much prettier.
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I'm sorry, Scott, I was joking, these are men dressed as the other sex. Yes, they do exist. I have seen them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqs_0SBbPD0
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I'm sorry, Scott, I was joking, these are men dressed as the other sex. Yes, they do exist.
Men dressed as women........................around here?
I'm shocked :o
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I think Uwe's joking. That only happens in movies like Tootsie, Yentl, Mrs. Doubtfire, and so, but not in real life.
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And we would recognize them immediately I'm sure.
Generally, people with male hobbies like model trains and WW II planes are a safe bet.
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The Invaders LMAO now that is funny on so many levels ;)
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My tastes are are nothing if not eclectic Herr Moderator..............
You and Doug are getting together on Wednesday?
Certain things need to be discussed.................. ;)
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Yes, another Dutch invasion. I'll set Dough straight for his dishonorable behavior towards a lady of impeccable repute.
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;D So, you know what Mittwoch is Mark! Well done!
This time I will have only eyes for the Explorers:)
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I just got an email!! They're done.
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me too - can't wait
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I'm assuming we all got the same email today but has Roman mentioned that whole different color thing since the first time?
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Wow! And I thought I'd be the first. Roman asked me for a shipping address, but didn't get into any other details.
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That is good news fellas. :toast:
I'm afraid I won't be able to help you guys any further. BaCH hasn't been replying any of my emails lately...
Guess it's the Czech way of saying thank you for bringing on more than 60 clients :o
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Thanks for all your help Basvarken! I got the e-mail too. I asked about price, shipping cost, and color availability.
With a name like TH-1, how can I NOT buy one??? :P
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I got mine too, but I'm going to pass. I wasn't in the original 50, so I wonder if those behind me on the list also got messages.
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got an email today and i was about number 3000 or there abouts, but i am replying as to cost and shipping.
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Yay!
Finally some love for the Amis!
;D
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got an email today and i was about number 3000 or there abouts, but i am replying as to cost and shipping.
You mean 300?
If it were 3000, Gibson is missing the reissue boat sorely
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No love for the guy in NH! I was early on the firt list too. I guess I need a tic-tac! :mrgreen:
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Nothing here, but I'm not bothered...
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No love for the guy in NH! I was early on the firt list too. I guess I need a tic-tac! :mrgreen:
Well, I've been emailing Roman once a month since the basses first hit The Netherlands. Always with a cheerful "I can't wait" tone. Try emailing him and asking about what you need to do to set up shipping and payment.
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This a demonstration of the Bach Email server, Substitute the milk for Email & Basses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZBSZ0xbfk&feature=related
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Haven't heard a word from the motherf----r, and I was in among the first 50. As far as I'm concerned, that company might very soon just go f--k itself. I guess they never heard about capitalism, and it's rules and regulations!!!
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At least you guys did not pay them yet, right?
I'm sure you will get your basses, just without rhyme or reason it seems?
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capitalism has rules and regulations, now that's funny. :P
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AFAIK nobody has paid yet except for the few who already got theirs.
It's just too bad that people high up on the list are being ignored. Roman is just probably confused, I can't imagine that they would deliberately skip them.
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Roman is just probably confused
No that is not the word...
Clueless. That's what he is.
He's now sending dutch guys that already have their BaCHbird emails that their TH-1 is ready. Asking if they can give their address so he can make the invoice... ???
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I am trying to remember which guitar mag had a "Top 100 guitar solos you wished you played" and a Carpenters song came in top, one place above "Hotel California" - can anyone guess the song, and I can fully understand why it got the vote...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooeMrCws-A
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Hi, I got the e-mail (actuallty three) from Roman today, but I was not in the first 50 on the list... Maybe he is reading from the bottom of the list, like the Japanese do. Also, I got an e-mail that was intended for "Gary". If Gary is out there somewhere, let me know and I will forward you the message.
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Yea!
Got mine ( email that is! ) also, anyone received a reply as to cost/shipping?
I think I was somewhere near the middle of the list. Didn't hear about a color change, what was it changed to? Anyway, I'll let you guys know as soon as I get a reply ( should be around December on the BaCH timeline :mrgreen: )
Scott ( BassVI )
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"I'll let you guys know as soon as I get a reply ( should be around December on the BaCH timeline" Mr. Green )
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Hi, I got the e-mail (actuallty three) from Roman today, but I was not in the first 50 on the list... Maybe he is reading from the bottom of the list, like the Japanese do. Also, I got an e-mail that was intended for "Gary". If Gary is out there somewhere, let me know and I will forward you the message.
Gary = gweimer
He's number 9 on the list and still waiting. I don't see any other Gary on the list.
I'm number 52 and Roman's ready to sell to me. Go figure.
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Got my email today. Anyone want my spot?
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Ray, do you know how much this will end up being with shipping yet? I was on the original list way back when, but then jumped off for financial reasons, but then again that was about two years ago...
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Got mine too, some days ago, send a payment and I'm waiting, he said he's gonna send the goods on monday.
He wasn't replying to my emails this week because he was on Frankfurt or something.
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Hi, I got the e-mail (actuallty three) from Roman today, but I was not in the first 50 on the list... Maybe he is reading from the bottom of the list, like the Japanese do. Also, I got an e-mail that was intended for "Gary". If Gary is out there somewhere, let me know and I will forward you the message.
...raises hand...
That might be me - Gary Weimer
The weird thing is that I also got an email from Roman.
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You all want a good laugh?
Us leftys (on that other forum) were planning to order some if & when you rightys got yours if you were all real happy with 'em.
It's funny cuz of what some of you are saying about this company.
It's also funny cuz even if the company was perfect, we wouldn't get 10 leftys to commit. :rolleyes:
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Ray, do you know how much this will end up being with shipping yet?
Not a clue. I would think around $500 plus or minus but I'm just guessing.
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I was notified also but I have no interest and no money at this point.
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Well, it don't sound like anyone has had any deliveries since the last time I dipped in here...
But Lowend get's the "Kewpie Doll" for sussing out Tony Peluso and that tune... 8) shame they cut the vid before he finished...
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Still nuttin in tropical NH!
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If anyone was expecting an email and didn't get one, I suggest checking your spam/junk folder. I happened to check mine and there was Roman's email (he asked for full name and address). I sent my reply yesterday and got an invoice today. With the conversion rate it'll be $300 including shipping. I'm trying to see if I can scrape up that amount because I'd like to get one. If anyone is still interested at this point, I'd recommend emailing him. Can't hurt...
BTW, the bass is still listed as being white, but that could be left over from previous invoices. I guess we'll see.
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conversion rate it'll be $300 including shipping
Thats amazing!. It cost me $200 just in shipping a tbird that I bought from Canada to Chicago.
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Yeah, I was very surprised to see a shipping rate of 45 Euros. I hope it wasn't a typo!
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shipping rate of 45 Euros
Delivery by carrier pigeon?
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/pigeons.jpg)
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That is good news gentlemen!
:toast:
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Yeah ,right! :mrgreen:
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I await a photo of one on US (or Canadian) soil.
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Thanks again Rob, for all the work. I received the email from Roman as well.
I immediately replied with my shipping info, but haven't received an invoice yet.
Things appear to be coming together... kinda.
By the way Rob, what are your thoughts on the BaCHbird after having it for a while?
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The BaCHbird is a great bass.
Of course there are a few things that could be improved on the BaCHbird.
For example the pots. They are rubbish. No big deal: for a few bucks you can easily replace them with proper CTS pots.
By the way, I replaced the volume pot that controls the Artec humbucker with a push/pull pot. The wiring on the Artec allows for the choice between humbucking and single coil mode. I makes the BaCHbird a little more versatile without having to drill extra holes.
Speaking of the Artec; it sounds great. I raised it somewhat to get a phatter sound.
When I raised the pickup I found out that the screws are rubbish too.
The bridge is great. The sustain is incredible.
The machines heads are fine. No complaints so far.
I've heard of one guy who refinned the headstock and had to replace al the mount screws because they are made of inferior alloy.
So I guess they work fine as long as you don't touch them.
In the meanwhile I've installed a second humbucker. It's a seventies Thunderbird humbucker that I bought from Krishna a while ago.
Plus I've put a chrome cover over the Artec humbucker (check out this thread: Artec BaCHbird pickup: bring on the chrome (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=1849.0) )
With the two humbuckers the BaCHbird now has that tight sound that I like.
I must admit I always roll the treble off a bit.
The BaCH pickguard has the wrong shape. It leaves not enough room for a second pickup.
So I had a guy in The Netherlands make me a pickguard. And our fellow outposter Saf screenprinted the bird.
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbirdcomplete.jpg)
The BaCHbirds of the first batch have a thick body. The bass weighs in at 5 kilo. That's pretty heavy.
From what I understand the second batch have a thinner body (the actual thickness that I gave BaCH). It weighs one kilo less!
This will make it more comfortable, weight wise. But the neck dive will be worse I guess.
But moving the strapbutton to the back on the heel will cure most of that.
All in all a great bass. Not just for the money.
Although I still can't believe that it cost me as little as it did.
The nice thing about the low cost, is that you're not reluctant to do some modiications/upgrades.
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Wowie zowie! At last I've got the word Go from Bach! The colours to choose from are black or sonic blue. As I've ordered two - one for the bass player in my sons band, Los Bastards - it will be two sonic blue. (By the way, I wonder if that name is free to take for a blues band, The Sonic Blues?) Wow, the future's so bright, and so on...
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Now, that poetry stuff above might not seem to hold together in the seams, so I just better explain: Both the bass player in Los Bastards, and that other bass player (me), thinks the sonic blue looks awsome! And, yes, it does!!!
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I've already ordered mine in sonic blue! Roman supposed to have send it since monday, two days ago. Can I believe him? :rolleyes:
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Looking here: http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH%20ZAD.jpg i've notices that the neck joint (smoking) is different from other more usual ones, looks like a glued in fender heel, was the Gibson made that way too?
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It looks the same as the original set neck
My 68 bird
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/yarddog.jpg)
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I see, it's just that i'm used to see the classic heel at the joint. That meens that the whole neck goes into the neck pocket, something like a set in 7ender neck joint, right?
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Im curious what color the blue is?
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With BaCH you never know.
This is what they call it on another bass on their website:
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/PB%20SBL%20CELEK.jpg)
http://www.bachmusik.com/p1126/bach-pb-60r-sbl (http://www.bachmusik.com/p1126/bach-pb-60r-sbl)
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Just about any color will look good on this bass.
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It's such a tease!
Roman asked me for my address earlier this week, now nothing :sad:
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It's such a tease!
Roman asked me for my address earlier this week, now nothing :sad:
Same.
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Hey all...I've been on the BaCHBird waiting list for awhile (I think I'm #46 or 47), but I just today discovered this thread! I'm glad there's a place to discuss this ka-razy project. I got an e-mail from Roman a couple of days ago. Unfortunately for me, I may have really confused him as I'm an American currently living in London but I want BaCH to ship to my USA address. I haven't heard back from Roman, yet...we'll see how this goes!
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It's such a tease!
Roman asked me for my address earlier this week, now nothing :sad:
Same here too.
Basvarken, that bass looks great! I hope to have one just like it soon, with late model TB+ pups covered in 70s chrome. ;D
Gotta figure out the pickguard thing. Has anyone tried an original Gibson 'guard on a Bach yet?
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Hey all...I've been on the BaCHBird waiting list for awhile (I think I'm #46 or 47), but I just today discovered this thread! I'm glad there's a place to discuss this ka-razy project. I got an e-mail from Roman a couple of days ago. Unfortunately for me, I may have really confused him as I'm an American currently living in London but I want BaCH to ship to my USA address. I haven't heard back from Roman, yet...we'll see how this goes!
Welcome Eric!
Wow, it took you a while to find us ;D
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some one sent me this
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/sonic.jpg)
and this
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/black.jpg)
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Now we're talking.
Funny to see they've misplaced the jack input and tone knob again. Doesn't even look that wrong on a NRTB II
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/DCP02560.jpg)
Thats the way my original NR bird came to me.,
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Welcome Eric!
Wow, it took you a while to find us ;D
Yeah well, I may be slow, but at least I'm...uh... ??? :bored:
some one sent me this
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/sonic.jpg)
I really, really hope that Sonic Blue is offered to me. I suppose, more importantly, I hope that Roman responds to my e-mail...but assuming that happens, I really, really hope that I can get mine in Sonic Blue!
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Today I got the tracking number from Roman (I asked him for this), I look to their site and found that the parcel's gone yesterday from Prague, let's find out how fast those czech postmen are.
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I gave up my place in line. I didn't place an order for one.
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Me to. :bored:
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I've got all the time in the world these days, so I can wait. And enough basses to keep me busy. I expect to finally get the Scroll bass in a month or so, and I have most of the parts for my next project bass, which I expect to start by the end of the year.
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I just didn't respond. I wasn't on the top 50 list anyway and I have other priorities now.
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2 e-mails to Roman...and still no reply. I'm not really in any hurry, it's just confusing...
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I had a Czech guy translate a letter I wrote to Roman, from English to Czech. That was Thursday, still haven't heard a word. So maybe my extra trouble hasn't paid off. Yet. On the other hand it's Easter. Maybe Tuesday? I'm wishing, and hoping. Just like Dusty Springfield once did...
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Dav you should put your name on the list. By Czek time you would be 1st,Im sure . I bet I was in the 1st 20 and have heard nothing. Its been so long i cant remember. I know I was on it quick when Basvarken needed 12 or 20 to get them interested. Im in no rush ,just dont want to be forgotten. Not working & way too many project. I like the Blue but will prob do it in inverness green . I like that color on those old epi's and MM basses. The finish on them looks pretty nice . Are they nitro?
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Are they nitro?
No. They're poly.
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Mike, I am on the list, just not in the first 50. Czech time or not, they should take care of everyone who was in the first 50 before dealing with anyone else.
I blame the metric system. :P :)
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....must be a european thing ,Im patient....I guess :mrgreen:
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Mike, I am on the list, just not in the first 50. Czech time or not, they should take care of everyone who was in the first 50 before dealing with anyone else.
I blame the metric system. :P :)
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
It's nice to see these imperial size savages keep their humor. Ignorance is one of the most gentle diseases ever. It leaves the victim largely undeterred.
Uwe
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Okay then, I no longer blame the metric system. I blame gay marriage. :P ;)
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Aw........... :-\
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It's a joke, son.
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Poor Mark, jilted at the Altar (Synagogue?), waiting for Doug to come to his senses and put a ring on his finger... ;D
Wot - no US deliveries yet, and by the sound of it no any deliveries for some time...
Rob... how many posts did the original thread have before you ordered it's execution...? this has the makings of PRIME TIME SOAP... ;) (if it weren't so tragic)
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Rob... how many posts did the original thread have before you ordered it's execution...? this has the makings of PRIME TIME SOAP... ;) (if it weren't so tragic)
Believe it or not. This thread predates this very forum. It all started at the long gone Dudepit. It was already a lengthy thread when the Dudepit capsized!
It all started in september 2006. When I spotted a Mahogany BaCH '51 P copy on a dutch auction site. I went to check it out and I was surprised by the quality of this low budget Czech brand...
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Guess what I got today! Yup, a (baby) blue czechbird! I'll post some pics later. Damn, this thing is LIGHT!!!
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Whooohooo!
Congrats.
Did you order just one?
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"Guess what I got today!" Can you guys, who've got your Birds, please, tell me what happened after you received the mail from Bach, asking you what colour you wanted on the Bird, and after you had sent your answer to the company? Did you get any more info from Bach after that, or did you just get a message that you had package wainting? How have you folks paid? Was it via Paypal? What was the time space between each point, counted from the moment where you were asked about colour?
You see, I'm checking my mail several times each day, waiting for an answer from Bach. I've decided on colour, but after that... nothing so far. I would feel relieved if I knew any form of time span.
Eagerly awaiting
Sincerely
Stjofön B.
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Did you order just one?
I've ordered 4, one for me and 3 for some friends of mine (one of them was a musicman player (yup, that toy-bass with batteries), I guess I am a Gibson evangelist or something).
Can you guys, who've got your Birds, please, tell me what happened after you received the mail from Bach, asking you what colour you wanted on the Bird, and after you had sent your answer to the company? Did you get any more info from Bach after that, or did you just get a message that you had package wainting? How have you folks paid? Was it via Paypal? What was the time space between each point, counted from the moment where you were asked about colour?
You see, I'm checking my mail several times each day, waiting for an answer from Bach. I've decided on colour, but after that... nothing so far. I would feel relieved if I knew any form of time span.
Eagerly awaiting
Sincerely
Stjofön B.
Roman politely asked me to pick black or light blue birds, because as he said "Rob is mad at me because of the extra colors"! LOL!!! But I really liked that light blue, so one of my friends, so I ordered 2 blue and two white!
After that he sent me an invoice, I paid thru bank transfer (eBanking RAWKS!!!). After I had paid, it took1 week to have it it my hands.
One advice: after czechs send the bass, ask Roman to give you the tracking number. So you 'll know where's your bass. The tracking page is here:
http://www.cpost.cz/jetspeed/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_pane/sluzbyonline%2CP-10adae2878c-10000;jsessionid=AAAkh4EciTipeesX1Xd+WQ
Remember not to put any spaces between numbers!
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And you received only that one Bluebird? Or did you get all 4 of them?
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And where are the pics???
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Thank you! Just one more thing, to stop me from walking the floor, how long time went by from where you made you decision concerning colour, until you got the invoice?
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And where are you located? Sounds like BaCH is doing these one at a time in terms of shipping.
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You know, BaCH is still running neck and neck with Bruce Johnson on the Scroll bass I ordered. Bruce tells me I'll have it sometime next month.
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Believe it or not. This thread predates this very forum. It all started at the long gone Dudepit. It was already a lengthy thread when the Dudepit capsized!
It all started in september 2006. When I spotted a Mahogany BaCH '51 P copy on a dutch auction site. I went to check it out and I was surprised by the quality of this low budget Czech brand...
Big thread before DP3 capsized plus a big thread here before you had me ax it because you thought it was unwise to say too much in public at the time. I'm not sure either was was long as this one, but all in all we sure have had plenty of discussion.
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@Basvarken: Bach made two packages, one package contained one blue and one white, which I collected. The other package will be collected by a friend living in northern greece.
@Stjofön Big: 1-2 days, not sure, sorry.
@gweimer: south greece, 1 hour by car from athens
@everyone interested: picks will follow later, must borrow a friends camera!
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I am going on three years for my Huff bass, which has not even started yet.
:-\
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One question: what gigbag do you use to carry it around? It's kinda large to put it in a f****r gigbag.
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Looks like they're still working on the "mainland". Nothing o'er the pond yet. Our original idea of sending to Rob and then working out distribution may have been a good one, in hindsight. Maybe BaCH is just getting through the simple ones first. I suspect that once the first shipment Stateside gets worked out, the rest will happen pretty quickly.
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Can you describe the weight difference between the white and blue one? Also, how different do they feel considering the difference in body thickness? The invoice I received listed a white bass and I wasn't told I could choose. I'd prefer the white one, all things being equal, but I might go for blue or black if the weight and/or feel is a huge difference. Thanks!
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The basses are the same, weight-wise. It would be kinda strange if lets say the blue was heavier! ;D But the white one SEEMS bigger.
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OldManC - did you get an invoice with all the payment info and ebank links?
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I thought everyone knew that blue is heavier. :mrgreen:
Seriously, the second batch is supposed to be thinner than the first (white) batch, George may be referring to this. If both yours came from the seond batch, then they should be the same.
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Both are 32cm thick ( that is 1" 1/4 for you, non-metric people! ) and weight about 5 kilos, if I can trust my crappy scale.
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Both are 32cm thick ( that is 1" 1/4 for you, non-metric people! ) and weight about 5 kilos, if I can trust my crappy scale.
:o
I hope you mean 32mm.
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Lol, yes! 32cm would be kinda hard to handle...
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Ah, they must have gotten white ones made with the second batch as well.
Gary, I got an invoice with bank wire transfer information. It's my understanding that they want that kind of payment.
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Dave... blue MUST be lighter, take the sky for an example... nice white clouds floating round on their own, meet a few others, get darker and then dump their load, leaving rainbows and a nice blue sky, which stays up there, so logic decrees it must be lighter... QED
2 pages in a day - this is getting closer to Encyclopaedia Brittanica, and I'm not helping...
Presume your north of Athens oh "exiled" one... that much closer for Roman to deliver to... ;D
I could just imagine rockin' out in Epidavros... (wouldn't let me post in Greek)
5kg ... :o (ok -11lbs over there) don't leave her by the window, she'll blow away, not...
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My '68 II was just under 9 pounds. Sounds like Bach got that right as well.
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Presume your north of Athens oh "exiled" one... that much closer for Roman to deliver to... ;D
Nop, I live at south. My friends from the north (closer to roman) haven't got anything yet. Greek post suck big time!
I could just imagine rockin' out in Epidavros... (wouldn't let me post in Greek)
Epidavros could be a great place for rock'n'roll, if people were open-minded enough to allow these type of shows there. There was an urban legend about Pink Floyd wanted to play there, but I think that's bullshit.
5kg ... :o (ok -11lbs over there) don't leave her by the window, she'll blow away, not...
As I said, I can't trust my scale, but this bass is light. In comparison, my Epi Tbird seems like it weights a ton!
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Ah, they must have gotten white ones made with the second batch as well.
Gary, I got an invoice with bank wire transfer information. It's my understanding that they want that kind of payment.
They made 10 white, 10 black, 10 blue
They want bank wire transfer (with IBAN and SWIFT and all that jazz...)
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Seriously guys, where can I find a gigbag for that bass? I tried one that is made for f*****s but it won't fit. For just a little. Damn!
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Seriously guys, where can I find a gigbag for that bass? I tried one that is made for f*****s but it won't fit. For just a little. Damn!
I don't know if it will fit, but this looks like it might do the trick.
Just ask Thomann to measure it up for you.
http://www.thomann.de/nl/rockbag_rb20603b_plus_thunderbird_bassgigbag.htm (http://www.thomann.de/nl/rockbag_rb20603b_plus_thunderbird_bassgigbag.htm)
(http://images7.thomann.de/pics/prod/162605.jpg)
But are you sure you don't want a case for this beast?
The headstocks of the Gibson T-birds are kinda notorious...
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Wanna see some picks?
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0173.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0175.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0178.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0179.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0181.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0184.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0186.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0187.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0188.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0194.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0201.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/kwstas79/tbird/IMG_0203.jpg)
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Nice! :thumbsup:
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Beautiful! Now I want a white one and a blue one.
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Man that looks great!
The blue is really sexy ;)
This is just killin' me cause I got the *tease* email from Roman about a week ago and now I'm gettin the silent treatment :sad:
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Beautiful! Now I want a white one and a blue one.
That sounded a little Uwe-ish!
Man that looks great!
The blue is really sexy ;)
This is just killin' me cause I got the *tease* email from Roman about a week ago and now I'm gettin the silent treatment :sad:
LOL @ "the silent treatment"! Don't worry Mark, I bet you'll get your bluebird soon!
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"There'll be blue-birds over, the white cliffs of Dover..."
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I got the teaser email too. I send emails now every couple of days - "Hi! Me again"... "Oh hai! I'd like TH-1 now, k?"...
So far, though, just a big...
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/emotipics/fail.jpg)
Great pics, exiled!
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That blue is right purdy.
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Oh, yes... The sonic blue one is just what I'm waiting for... And not a word do I hear... But B-Bird sure looks nice, and everything tells me she's worth the wait...
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Sehr schön, but what's with the candle? ???
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Blue is nice, but I've already got something in that color. ;D
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7677/fullfront.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullfront.jpg)
I'm waiting (patiently - unlike some around here who act like they've put down a deposit or something) for a white one.
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Tom,
That's such a Badass F Bird!
After the BaCH NR I really want one of those, if I end with a white BaCH and you get a Blue one I'll happily trade ya ;)
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BaCH told me they're going to build Fenderbirds too.
In our life time I hope....
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Looks like the delay/slow-response is due to shipping difficulties to the US:
Joe We are very sorry for our delay but We got a freight problem how to send Guitars to USA.
It seems easy but it is not.
Firstly the bass has about 140 cm (55,11") of lenght and our Czech post can take 105 cm (41,30") only.
Another ways are very expensive , sometimes more expensive as the Instrument – UPS , DHL , etc.
Now We are dealing with the Austria post (its border is 30 km far away to our company).
They can do it.
We are very sorry .
Roman
BaCH Music , Czech
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Thanks Joe!
That helps some...
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At least i dont feel as ignored.Thanx
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Communication is good. And it's also nice that they're still looking to make good here in the States.
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Do the "La La Lies" 2 tracks constitute the first (reputedly) recorded use of the BaCHbird to be (commercially) available...?
I do have one concern about this (that is being touted elsewhere on the site) as "Doug Fyghter" claims it is his work, but the "La La Lies" site claims the bassist is some guy called "Chris"... I'm confused, which isn't that odd a circumstance...
Wasn't there a Chris P that used to post on this site... What ever bacame of him...? I think the moderators should check into this... ;)
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Wasn't there a Chris P that used to post on this site... What ever bacame of him...? I think the moderators should check into this... ;)
Just as soon as we find out what became of Ken S.
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Mmmmmmmm............Yeah, I remember Ken!
He was the guy that couldn't tell an F6F Hellcat from a P-47 Thunderbolt! ;)
( Sorry! you left an opening I could drive a truck thru!)
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Speaking of leaving openings!
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I didn't know you cared! ;)
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"It's no good Captain, it's the dilithium crystals, were dead in the water..."
"Prepare to be boarded by Transvestrons, Scotty... Mr Carlston, say a prayer for the crew, and Mr West, pass out the corks..."
:mrgreen:
Now, the thought of Veronica driving a truck...
Hmm... there's an idea for your next photoshoot... Trucker's have some "Nasty Habits..." How about a dirty, greasy Mack pulling over on a dubious (any desert's up in Washington State, Mark...?) highway at dusk, with the girls at the side of the road...
... and for that matter, you told me they were a B24 and an Avro Anson... :P
Dave, Mark, George... where would we be without the joy of humour and being able to "take it" as well as "give it" is part of the quality we have here in the cast at the LBO, at least that's my excuse for my aberations and I'm sticking to it...
Is it time for me to evolve again...? hmm...
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Well,
No manual transmission for me thanks anyway.............But I do like trucks, this one is a 1940 GMC 6x6 that was repatriated from Norway, owned by our singer......
And Eastern Washington does have some rather arid parts, very scenic - you can drive about 2 hours east of rainy Seattle and be in the desert and amongst some fascinating geological locations. Here's a couple links to that part of the state, I was born in a small town in the northeast corner named Colville.
http://www.cornforthimages.com/Galleries/Landscape/Washington/Columbia%20Basin.htm
http://hugefloods.com/Basalt.html
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/_MG_7767.jpg)
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Thank you for those links, Mark! Most interesting, really nice, and exciting, pictures. Hope to go there some day. Seattle and that whole area is popular amongst us northerners in Europe.
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Wow some of those pics are beautiful Mark
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Well,
No manual transmission for me thanks anyway.............But I do like trucks, this one is a 1940 GMC 6x6 that was repatriated from Norway, owned by our singer......
And Eastern Washington does have some rather arid parts, very scenic - you can drive about 2 hours east of rainy Seattle and be in the desert and amongst some fascinating geological locations. Here's a couple links to that part of the state, I was born in a small town in the northeast corner named Colville.
http://www.cornforthimages.com/Galleries/Landscape/Washington/Columbia%20Basin.htm
http://hugefloods.com/Basalt.html
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/_MG_7767.jpg)
Entertainment for the troops?
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Sehr schön, but what's with the candle? ???
It's something orthodox christians do on easter, go to church with a candle. I'm not at all religious man, I'd say I'm towards atheism, but I go to church for the fun of it.
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Hey, as a Catholic I know all about Easter candles! But why was the candle photograhed beside the bass? I thought you were trying to say something with it, color match etc ...
Wait a minute, you tried to suggest that fasting/Lenten season is over and that it is alright now to immerse yourself in the gluttony of a Bachbird! ;)
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I dont know if Non reverse will work for you Mark, your such a "reverse" type guy/gal. Non reverse has a dated vintage vibe to it.
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*If* it ever shows up, I'll make it work ;D
I have a "chroming" project underway to help occupy my needs.
I'm still in the "tease me with an email" holding pattern with Roman @ BaCH.
I've had boyfriends/girlfriends that were stingy.........but wow, it's like the GAS blueballs...... ;)
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I thought the candle was a Marilyn Chambers tribute...
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Compelling. But that pic wasn't provided by Mark so some benefit of doubt must be allowed.
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Well,
No manual transmission for me thanks anyway.............But I do like trucks, this one is a 1940 GMC 6x6 that was repatriated from Norway, owned by our singer......
And Eastern Washington does have some rather arid parts, very scenic - you can drive about 2 hours east of rainy Seattle and be in the desert and amongst some fascinating geological locations. Here's a couple links to that part of the state, I was born in a small town in the northeast corner named Colville.
http://www.cornforthimages.com/Galleries/Landscape/Washington/Columbia%20Basin.htm
http://hugefloods.com/Basalt.html
Hey Mark...I lived the 1st 33 years of my life in Spokane, WA (not that far from Colville) before moving to London in November. I miss it already!
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Spokane to London?! Talk about culture shock!!!!!!!!! :o
The Okanogan country is beautiful, Washington State is quite remarkable, in that you can go from Rain Forest to Mild wet to Desert and Semi Arid Forest in about 400 miles, to say nothing of the geology - esp on the east side.
Just a pleasant 80 miles from Colville to Spokane.......I need to make a road trip east of the mountains this year, it's been far too long. I'll know I'm in my birthplace because there's a large letter "C" underneath a white cross on one of the hills above town :)
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Compelling. But that pic wasn't provided by Mark so some benefit of doubt must be allowed.
So you're saying I'm leaning towards Mark-ism?
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Naw, of course not, just a fervent Mary Magdalena Chambers believer!
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Just got an email from Roman. It appears that they have shipping to the US figured out. I've got a shipping cost of 85 euros, and am waiting for final payment instructions.
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Roman just asked whether I wanted a black, white or blue one. I chose color for my life, call me Daisy!
Uwe
(http://media.kunst-fuer-alle.de/img/32/g/32_18244~_andy-warhol_daisy,-blue.jpg)
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Yaybia!
I got some Ami love from Bach today too!
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You are ALL jealous of my BlueBird. Cheaters.
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You keep eating that banana and zip it! :mrgreen:
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Is that what that is?
Just thought I was starting to have some influence here ;)
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I got the message too. That shipping cost is more along the lines of what I would have originally expected, based on other experiences with USPS and EMS.
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Now, the question is how long before we get responses, and the basses? I responded to Roman within a couple minutes of my email, but nothing further today. Tomorrow is another day.
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Hang on guys. I know it's been a terrible stretch, but we're getting there.
:toast:
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You keep eating that banana and zip it! :mrgreen:
Typical german discipline! ;D
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You keep eating that banana and zip it! :mrgreen:
Ya know, you can't really do both............... ;)
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I got an invoice today from B&CH. Now I need to figure out how to pay it. ???
Looks like about $335 US including shipping (259.01 Euro). Anyone know how to wire the money?
And I'll need to do something about that pickguard. I'll be putting on a pair of late model TB+ pups covered with 70's chrome covers.
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I payed by bank transfer, that's the easiest way I think.
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I thought they were providing a link for a banking transfer.
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I got an invoice today from B&CH. Now I need to figure out how to pay it. ???
Looks like about $335 US including shipping (259.01 Euro). Anyone know how to wire the money?
And I'll need to do something about that pickguard. I'll be putting on a pair of late model TB+ pups covered with 70's chrome covers.
You need to set up an international bank transfer. You fill in the complete IBAN number they gave you. Plus the SWIFT code of the bank they're using.
I had a few pickguards made in The Netherlands, for me and some other guys who bought a BaCHbird. I used an accurate tracing of a Gibson NR pickguard. But I had to make one minor change for the little thingy that points towards the tail end of the bass. I chose to do so because I needed it to cover one screwhole of the BacH pickguard.
I have the PDF if you're interested.
Tom , if I were you I'd wait with those TB+ pickups till you've heard the Artec. It sounds pretty awesome...
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I'll have to see how it sounds right out of the box, but I do have an old '60s pickup ready and waiting for a new home.
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But I had to make one minor change for the little thingy that points towards the tail end of the bass. I chose to do so because I needed it to cover one screwhole of the BacH pickguard.
I have the PDF if you're interested.
Tom , if I were you I'd wait with those TB+ pickups till you've heard the Artec. It sounds pretty awesome...
I'm definitely interested in the PDF. Also, if that Artec sounds close enough I'll just rig it to be under a chrome cover. Didn't you do that?
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Rob,
I'm definately interested in that pdf too...............Please :)
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George, your server is blocking my email. I tried to send you the pdf plus some pics but it bounced.
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Rob,
I'm definately interested in that pdf too...............Please :)
you have mail
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Id love a PDF also. Thanx,M
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I'd love to have that PDF too!
Hey, why don't we make a "downloads" section in the forum to have all that stuff (pickguard templates etv) gathered? That could be handy!
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Got it ,Rob. ....now if I only had a .....never mind. Thanx.M
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I got my invoice from Roman at BaCH. When I went to my bank to try to do the transfer, they said I needed the address of the bank in the Czech Republic (the city, at least), as well as an account number. My bank said that for transfers from the U.S., the SWIFT and IBAN numbers were not enough info to guarantee a successful transaction, although in the EU they probably are...Has anyone in the U.S. had a successful transaction yet? If so, please let me know what I need to do.
Thanks! ???
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Their address is on my invoice. I just printed the invoice, took it to my bank branch and asked for a wire transfer. When I told her the amount in Euros she said we can't do that, and I told her of course you can. Turns out they can, they deducted the amount from my checking account, and also deducted a $73.00 International Bank Transfer Fee.
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Their address is on my invoice. I just printed the invoice, took it to my bank branch and asked for a wire transfer. When I told her the amount in Euros she said we can't do that, and I told her of course you can. Turns out they can, they deducted the amount from my checking account, and also deducted a $73.00 International Bank Transfer Fee.
Ouch. I'm still waiting on my invoice.
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I figure that since I work for JPMorgan Chase, I'll be able to get past a lot of hassle, once I get an invoice.
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The address of BaCH is on the invoice, not the Citibank. Also, my bank said they needed an actual account number. It costs about 40 bucks to do a transfer, even if it is not successful. My bank warned me to get it right before I attempted to make it go through.
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I figure that since I work for JPMorgan Chase, I'll be able to get past a lot of hassle, once I get an invoice.
You and me both..............Once I get an invoice. I've known strippers that weren't this big a tease ;)
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maybe someone should hint Bach of the existence of Paypal.
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I don't know if that is possible. Remember, I had a Czech guy translate a letter to Roman so it would be fully understood, with no shadows of doubt. What happened after that? Nothing. Still no invoice. To bring Paypal into the game, well... insurmountable, is the word my lexicon propose...
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I don't know if this is too big a project to undertake, but if there's a guy in Europe willing to do it we could Paypal our funds to him (including all possible extra Paypal fees, which would be less than a $75 international transfer fee) and have him do the bank wire from there. That way, we'd know the money would get there properly, without hassle. Now that the shipping amount has been settled this could be possible.
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Spokane to London?! Talk about culture shock!!!!!!!!! :o
The Okanogan country is beautiful, Washington State is quite remarkable, in that you can go from Rain Forest to Mild wet to Desert and Semi Arid Forest in about 400 miles, to say nothing of the geology - esp on the east side.
Just a pleasant 80 miles from Colville to Spokane.......I need to make a road trip east of the mountains this year, it's been far too long. I'll know I'm in my birthplace because there's a large letter "C" underneath a white cross on one of the hills above town :)
Yes, the culture shock has been huge! Then again, that's part of the reason we did it. I'm sure I'll make it back to Spokane someday, though, which is why I'm having my BaCHbird shipped to the US. BTW, if you're going to get a new pickguard made from someone local, I'd love to know who you use...
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I'm in Europe, George, and have PayPal, but have I missed something...?
Can be of service, if it helps... you have my pm, or post here...
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A package from BaCH landed on my doorstep today. In Ohio. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Awesome! I'm coming right over...
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Good news. I thought they would eventually figure out a way.
How long after payment did it take to to get to you?
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Rob! I know you've kept an eye and more on this whole operation. Do you know if there's any kind of system in the way Bach works, compared to how the original list, the one you did, looks? Are the basses sent in any form of order?
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Rob's on holiday for a week!
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Good news. I thought they would eventually figure out a way.
How long after payment did it take to to get to you?
It was seventeen days, but during the first ten or so they figured out that the bird was too long for whatever method they originally wanted to use. However it was only six days after I go the email saying it had been shipped.
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Rob's on holiday for a week!
So? A Holiday place without Wifi is a no-go for us these days.
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Rob's on holiday for a week!
In the Czech Republic no doubt. Receiving an award for the bolstering of Czech exports!
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Well, you have a point Uwe. Rob was very unclear to me about his destination!
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"In Czech Republic no doubt. Receiving an award for the bolstering of Czech exports!" :toast:
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I think we have to consider this good news. Sure, they're way behind and hey aren't doing this in the right order, but once they ship, it's here quickly.
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The fuel stations in the UK no longer accept Czech's, or something like that...
"BaCH Bird in Ohio..."
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Just got back from Toscane, Italy.
A holiday without Internet, television, mobile phone, etc.
A holiday with lots of red wine, white wine, grappa, beer, pasta, pizza, carpaccio, minestrone, etc, etc.
I think I gained some weight...
Great to see that the first BaCHbird has arrived in the USA.
How do you like it Mojo Hobo?
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Actually, I was wondering how long to let it get acclimated to this side of the earth before I open the box.
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/bachbox.jpg)
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Has anyone else in the US received an invoice?
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Naw...........
I got the BaCHbird blueballs :sad:
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I had a case of cashus-interruptus but it's all better now. Gonna do the bank transfer tomorrow.
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WOW ! They really do exist !
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I got the blue BaCHbird.
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/bachnew.jpg)
I guess I got lucky, Gary was on the list before me, but after seeing the first pictures in this thread of the blue and black birds I sent an email to Roman requesting a blue one. The next day the invoice showed up in my inbox. I went to the bank to wire transfer that day. More than a week later Roman sent an email that it had shipped, and because of the length it had to go EMS. It arrived exactly a week later.
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That looks sweet ! Now I have GAS
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I like the fact they made it to this side of the pond. What I dont get is the fact that this Roman guy has not responded to any of my emails in quite a while. I have not been a pest by any means. Did this guy get the list turned upside down or what!!!? Blue balls is an understatement! :mrgreen:
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Now, that's weird because I told Roman I'd be happy to get a blue one. Well, it looks like it's *THIS* close, so I'll wait it out.
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Great to see that the first BaCHbird has arrived in the USA.
How do you like it Mojo Hobo?
How do I like it? How can I not like it? My first impression was that it was heavier than I expected. But in reality it is only slightly heavier than my Gibson bird, and not as heavy as my P bass. The neck is quite comfortable, it arrived set up and ready to play. The tone is somewhat unremarkable though, I'm going to try different strings, but I'm not sure which ones yet.
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Now, that's weird because I told Roman I'd be happy to get a blue one. Well, it looks like it's *THIS* close, so I'll wait it out.
Yea, and you were on the list a little ahead of me.
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That's sure a beautiful bass, I'm likin' that blue alot! :P
It's difficult not to be frustrated at the pace of this whole thing, but as I haven't sent them any money I can only bitch so much...........
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Well, the wire has been sent and I am awaiting one white and one blue BachBird.
For some reason my email carriers were bouncing Rob's email to me with the PDF of the pickguard template. If any of you have one and are willing, would you mind shooting me a copy at gcarlston at hotmail dot com? I'd really appreciate it.
My initial plans are to keep them both as single pickup IIs, but with a vintage or vintage style pickup and a rounded tail piece (thanks again, Doc)! I have a couple of Scott's bridges too, but it looks like they got the bridge so close I may not need to go that far.
Are any of you doing anything about the screened (or painted) logo on the headstock? I'm not sure whether I want to go so far as to add a Gibson TRC or not. I don't plan on ever trying to sell one as a Gibson, but I'm thinking I want them to look as close to my originals as possible.
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Same here - waiting for (1) white fauxbird.
Headstock logo - I do plan to try and get rid of it, even if I end up re-finishing the whole front of the headstock. I have a Gibson TRC that I plan to put on there, assuming it fits.
E-mail sent.....
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I got the blue BaCHbird.
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/bachnew.jpg)
I guess I got lucky, Gary was on the list before me, but after seeing the first pictures in this thread of the blue and black birds I sent an email to Roman requesting a blue one. The next day the invoice showed up in my inbox. I went to the bank to wire transfer that day. More than a week later Roman sent an email that it had shipped, and because of the length it had to go EMS. It arrived exactly a week later.
Looks like the control knob is where the jack output should be (Already mentioned?)
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Thanks, Tom. Now I'm set!
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Rob already mentioned the confusion of controls and jacks already:)
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Old and new side by side:
(http://mojohobo.com/images/bassbirds.jpg)
It looks like I must like where the jack is.
Some other things I've noticed:
1. The tailpiece is farther away from the bridge. I tried to put a set of Chromes on it but the silks went over the nut about 1/4" (Also the A string was too big for the slot in the nut)
2. The pickguard is smaller and a different shape, but I like it.
3. The neck is a little bit wider at the nut, but again, I like it.
4. The logo. It's in the wrong place and it's silver. But I like it!
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Nice... x 2 ... 8)
... and any other opinions from the USofA contingency...?
It, ultimately, is a tribute, and from what I've read so far, quite a worthy one... just not easy to acquire... ;)
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Thanks for the shot!
The blue is SO cool, I'm insanely jealous.
I must be on Roman's s#&t list 'cause I haven't any email for some time now :sad:
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I'm going the other way, I'll try to keep mine as stock as possible. As a document how affordably you can build something that looks both different and sounds well. Not that mine has yet arrived!!!
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Although my Gibby is much modified, the Bach is staying stock!
Regardless of the price, the Bachbird is a custom built limited edition, and at this point I may have the only one in America. I did change the strings, but that's all for now.
edit: I said "for now", but no, I don't want to change anything, I like it the way it is.
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Thanks for the shot!
The blue is SO cool, I'm insanely jealous.
I must be on Roman's s#&t list 'cause I haven't any email for some time now :sad:
I don't think Roman has a s#!t list. I think he is shipping these all by himself, and he has a long list. I'm sure all will get their basses eventually.
Maybe I got mine first because I'm half Bohemian. I probably have relatives over there!
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Alright. I got my invoice and I'm making the payment tomorrow.
I had requested a white one and never heard back about it.
The invoice showed up and the bird was listed as being white.
Is it safe to say that's what I'm gonna get? Hope so.
Mojo's bluebird looks sweet though.
Hey guys, I was sleeping on the PDF of the pickguard.
Would anyone mind shootin' it over to me?
marcosaurelio at earthlink dot net
Thanks again for everything.
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Cool! Can you do an A/B sound review?
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Here's the PDF of the pickguard that I drew:
Remember to print it 100%. Do not chose "fit to page" when you're printing, cos it'll be scaled down.
The red outline is the part that should be bevelled.
I left the Pickup hole out because some of the Dutch guys wanted to install a different pickup with other dimension. So everybody had to cut out their own pickup hole.
http://www.superfloor.net/NRTbird-Pickguard.pdf (http://www.superfloor.net/NRTbird-Pickguard.pdf)
(http://www.superfloor.net/NRTbird-Pickguard.pdf)
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I'm going the other way, I'll try to keep mine as stock as possible. As a document how affordably you can build something that looks both different and sounds well. Not that mine has yet arrived!!!
I agree with you herr moderator, the only thing I'm gonna change is the crappy electronics.
When I opened the back cover and I saw those microscopic noname pots, well, I instantly think about CTS.
I'm not gonna change the pickup, I really like its bright sound. I mostly play angry fingerstyle so it's a nice match!
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I actually prefer the pickguard of the Bachbird - leaves more of the bass to see and looks a bit more playful than the very utalitarian-shaped original.
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Is there any route behind the pickguard? I was thinking about adding a clear pickgu... NO I DIDN'T SAID THAT!!! :D :D :D
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I agree with you herr moderator, the only thing I'm gonna change is the crappy electronics.
When I opened the back cover and I saw those microscopic noname pots, well, I instantly think about CTS.
I'm not gonna change the pickup, I really like its bright sound. I mostly play angry fingerstyle so it's a nice match!
If you're going to change the pots, you might want to consider using a push/pull pot for the volume pot. This will allow you to use the pickup in humbucking and single coil mode!
Is there any route behind the pickguard? I was thinking about adding a clear pickgu... NO I DIDN'T SAID THAT!!! :D :D :D
No there is no routing underneath. So go ahead ;)
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Mine has arrived. First impressions:
1. Wow ... :o
2. Wow! :rimshot:
3. Wow!!! :thumbsup:
4. Strings are crap, but well intonated.
5. Very low action, almost buzzless.
6. Fin is better than I expected (I have a baby-blue one), few brownish streaks here and there, don't mind those, give it a relicy touch.
7. Neck is thinner than on original Non Revs hence less or even no neck heaviness.
8. Does it sound like my 67 Non Rev? It has a similar character, but not the same depth of tone, the thinner neck, the crummy strings or the lack of having been around for 42 years might all account for that.
9. I'm still rubbing my eyes at the value for money ratio of this thing!
10. A small wonder, Rob, thank you, true to Calvinist ideology your place in heaven is now secured!
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1.2.3. Gratuliere noch einmal ;)
4. The strings on mine were crap too. As well as the pots.
6. What's with the brown streaks? :o
7. I wonder if they made the necks of the second series thinner (because of the thinner body maybe). The neck on mine doesn't feel (too) thin. Actually I like the neck a lot; It plays real smooth.
10. My pleasure Uwe. Too bad I don't believe in heaven though...
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6. What's with the brown streaks?
MARK!!!!!!!!!!!
;)
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Let it be put in all our an
nals: The dark cavernous abyss that the moral and decorum standards of this forum have slithered into continues to besiege us with its deplorable foul stench ... :-\
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Cool! Can you do an A/B sound review?
An A/B review of these two would be pointless if even if I could do it. The Gibson is equipped with Dimarzio pickups.
I am sure when Uwe gets his he will post a proper review and comparison to an comparable original.
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@ Uwe:
8. I'm pretty sure it'll make a big difference if you put on decent strings indeed. That and raising the pickup somewhat. Actually I found out that makes a huge difference / improvement tonewise.
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"few brownish streaks here and there, don't mind those"
:)
Just signs of a good time!
Still want my bass tho :-\
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:o
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Something arrived today...jammed tonight...excellentissimo...pictures soon.
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Mark, you're not the only one. I got the email telling me about the shipping cost. I told Roman that the cost was nothing, and then asked him what he needed me to do next, and then nothing.
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Roman told me they only made 10 white, 10 black and 10 blue ones.
Maybe he's waiting for a third series to make sure he can deliver the desired color to everyone?
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He can take his sweet time, I'm okay. In fact, the closer to September it gets before I have to move on the BachBird, the better.
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@ Uwe:
8. I'm pretty sure it'll make a big difference if you put on decent strings indeed. That and raising the pickup somewhat. Actually I found out that makes a huge difference / improvement tonewise.
That is exactly what I did with mine, and it did make a big improvement.
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The view from here................
"Tail-end-Charlie in the Berlin sky"
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/b17.jpg)
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Mark, I have two coming and don't really need two. If they get here in one piece and you want it, I could sell you the blue one for what I have into it. I hate to see a nice girl cry by not getting what she wants...
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I may be taking you up on that offer George!
One just may not be enough ;)
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I was a non believer and I backed out :-[ I emailed Roman, I want back in. Hope they do a second run.
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Scott, from what I understand, this is the second run. I'll bet since you contacted him you'll get a reply. It may take him a while, but you'll get either an invoice or a request for your shipping info so they can prepare an invoice. Also, the give about a week for payment on the invoice and will cancel it if payment isn't made within that time. I changed my order so I got a second invoice anyway, but my first had been canceled without them saying anything so I'm glad I wrote again!
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Thanks George, i have emailed him so i will wait and see. My own fault for backing out.
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Scott, although I asked for your bird and told Roman about nothing became of it. When I got invoiced for the one I was in line for I just sent payment figuring a bird in the hand was better than nothing. I would still like a second one and I did express that to Roman, but got no response. But unless you were sent an invoice and told Roman you were backing out your name should still be on the list.
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Well, well see what I've missed!
What ( if anything ) did you guys do to get a response from RoMan? I got notification that mine was ready and to send my shipping address for a quote ( did that ) next ( about a month later ) I received a message asking if I still wanted one. My reply was Yessssssss..............what the shipping going to be.....invoice? etc. and now....................nothing ??? What didshipping, etc. come to? I'm still interested but don't have any idea of a total cost.
Cheers and glad some of these are finall showing up here in the States,
Scott
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Shot last saturday. Looks like I'm checking for buckle wear in that first pic 8)
That Hartke disaster is not mine btw...
EDIT: pics removed because of copyrights... sorry fellas
here's the link (http://www.basementonline.nl/nieuw.php?band=Stonefly&datum=9%20May%202009&zaal=Ekko)
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Cool pics, Robbie!
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Those pics look great! That bass suits you well, Rob!
With regard to Roman and emails, I've had at least two answered within 24 hours. Most are answered in anywhere from 3-5 days. One or two were never answered. Once I decided definitely to get one I was persistent (while trying not to make him think I was stalking him ;D) and would write again after a week or so if I didn't hear back.
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Nice pix Rob!
The bass definately suits you.
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Nice pix Rob!
The bass definately suits you.
I hope it sounds as good as his Hobbits did. It's hard to replace the tone he got from them.
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I hope it sounds as good as his Hobbits did. It's hard to replace the tone he got from them.
Nothing can beat a Hobbit. 8)
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I've removed the brown stains on the finish of mine!!! With a little spit'n'polish. Always works wonders with brown stains.
Uwe
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"a little spit'n'polish. Always works wonders with brown stains."
Awwwww.............. You've discovered one of my best kept secrets :-\
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"a little spit'n'polish. Always works wonders with brown stains."
Awwwww.............. You've discovered one of my best kept secrets :-\
la la la la la la ....
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I've removed the brown stains on the finish of mine!!! With a little spit'n'polish. Always works wonders with brown stains.
Uwe
Seriously, this was probably just excess buffing compound that wasn't completely used up in the buffing out process.
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Seriously, this was probably just excess buffing compound that wasn't completely used up in the buffing out process.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Doesn't everybody get rid of brown streaks with a power buffer? ??? :mrgreen:
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Doesn't everybody get rid of brown streaks with a power buffer? ??? :mrgreen:
Only the really dried on ones, Dave ;)
Otherwise Uwe's "spit and polish" method works well.
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Did he use the "hands that do buffin' stay as soft as his skin, with mild green fairy liquid" technique...?
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Only the really dried on ones, Dave ;)
Otherwise Uwe's "spit and polish" method works well.
maybe you should be "skid" mark. ;D
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It's funny to go back and see the progression of this thread.
The conversation often strays, but always comes back to the
main BuTTbird, I mean BaCHbird topic. ;D
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Hmmmm....it's funny how this (w)hole forum is getting dirtier every day....and i'm not talking 'bout innocent streaks on our instruments....
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Yes, a dirty hole forum, quite right! Skid Mark is to blame for the sharp drop in decorum we are experiencing.
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Just got an invoice from Roman! He's indicating that part of the delay is due to non-payment on a few of the invoices they've already sent out. I emailed last night, and told him I was ready to pay. Invoice came today after he replied.
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Its great to see this all becoming a reality. Rob has done a great job
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I'll take you all down with me! ;D
Herr Moderator you left an "opening" I could (literally) drive a truck thru, and a girl's ( and lawyer's)job is always to take advantage of these sort of things ;)
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Slowly but surely they're being sent out. They are following through. They must be a smaller operation than I thought, and they really hadn't planned the logistics of sending basses to countries they had not dealt with before.
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they really hadn't planned the logistics of sending basses to countries they had not dealt with before.
Pah, they had about two and a half years time to figure that out. :o ;D
They just never really took it as serious as we did. They only made 20 in the first series because they were sceptical about the whole idea of such a weird "undesirable" bass. Now they're flabbergasted that people all across the globe actually want those things.
I think BaCH is just two people; B & CH
Franta Bartos and Roman Chovanec
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Obviously two and a half years wasn't enough.
You're right, they definitely did not expect the response they got.
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I find the whole saga very entertaining. When this project started, I was sceptical to say the least. When it transpired that it would actually go somewhere (and not some Nashville lightning strike it dead early on ...), I still didn't not expect the end result/bass to amount to much in quality, my expectations were along the lines of a Czech Wishbass ... :-[ Now I've been proven wrong and I'm enjoying it thoroughly! :mrgreen:
Yes, this is probably just a two man boutique that did not know what it got itself into, but they are fumbling along admirably and getting there in the end. One day, when B&CH Bass will be a sizeable successful company (with a certain Mr van den Broek their thrifty Dutch CFO ...), we'll all be stroking our grey beards and saying: "We knew B&CH when they were this small ..., but even those early basses were already great quality ...".
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Hey, those basses are of GREAT QUALITY! Even with those brownies all over it!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Transfer sent. In the two or so hours it took me to get to the bank, the dollar had dropped enough that my price went up about $6. And the invoice was from B & Ch Music.
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In the two or so hours it took me to get to the bank, the dollar had dropped enough that my price went up about $6.
Life in the US must be hard those days...
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The banana eater always puts a smile on my face!
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That's the point, I think! ;)
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You know, I think Rob is on to something with the two person B & CH operation.
That would explain everything.
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Could it be a white Hobbit?
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Probably there are two persons owning the company but I'm sure there's a staff working on those instruments. Considering the product range they have I don't think they really could pull that off. They seem to sell quite a few basses and guitars to Sweden from what I've seen on different forums. Our drummer ordered a Firebird copy 6 months ago and the wait would'nt have been a long wait if it was'nt for the fact that the Swedish distributor did'nt like the neck design they changed to (too far off from original specs). They seem to be like that Bach. They go their own way sometimes and suddenly with the design and construction. This week he got mail from the distributor and he got a new shipment. No white ones though which our drummer ordered. I think he'll settle for a sunburst. Also they suddenly put the tuners on the top end of the headstock and not reverse like it should be, haha.
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Three weeks ago Roman sent an email, asking if I'd got the proforma invoice. Well, I hadn't. Then not a word. This morning I sent him a mail, asking if there was anything wrong? An hour ago I got the invoice! Now these two Birds are paid for, and maybe I'll have them late next week?
There's just one thing to say: Wow! Or, maybe, two: Wowie Zowie!
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Looks like we're getting some momentum going! Also, in looking over my invoice, it looks like I'm getting a white one.
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Comparing notes on shipping and communication times has been interesting. It seems a bit random, but so long as the basses finally arrive at their intended destination we're good, right? I sent my wire on the 7th. Haven't heard anything since but I figure I'll have a nice knock at the door some time soon. Of course I'll update when that happens...
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I made the transfer on the 9th and have sent a couple of emails in the last couple of days. No reply.
Did everyone who received their bird also receive a shipping notification from Roman?
Also, I had requested a white bird and that's what was listed on the invoice.
Did those who received their birds have the correct color listed on their invoices?
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I made my money transfer on 24 April and received the bass roughly two weeks later on 8 May. And that was within Europe were a wire transfer and shipping takes less time. So you yanks shouldn't be unruly before three to four weeks after your wire transfer.
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I figure it will take some time, but did you get a shipping notification when they shipped your bird?
Also, did your invoice list the color of your bird?
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No shipping notification - this is the Czech Republic! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: My invoice listed "sonic blue" (they had asked me for my choice of color in a previous email) and that is what I got.
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:sad: No shipping notification? No tracking number???
:mrgreen: Just kiddin'. I knew the job was dangerous when I took it.
I'm on Czech time now.
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Exiledarchangel did get a tracking number if I'm not mistaken.
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In his new CFO chair, Rob will have to no doubt attend to the shipping department of B&CH. Employing his second language German will help catch some attention among the local workforce.
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Exiledarchangel did get a tracking number if I'm not mistaken.
Yes that's true, but I ASKED THEM 2 TIMES to send me that tracking number. I almost threat them.
Those czechs are good luthiers, but they suck at trading. But I understand them, as a former communist country they have their weaknesses! :D
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Nothing a little military rule could not cure. Aren't those deactivated Greek military junta generals rather idle on their lovely prison island?
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Most of 'em are free or dead. Useless for our purpose anyway.
edit: the sign of greek junta was the burning phoenix, and greece was always associated with the blue color. Could that be a coincidence? :D :D :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_military_junta_of_1967-1974
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/21april1967.png)
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You know us Yanks, Uwe. We call revolution at the first sign of inconvenience!
Actually, I have faith all the basses will arrive at their intended destinations. The wire thing is just weird for me because (without hearing from Roman) I have no way of knowing if it went through correctly. I guess comparing notes here is easier than each of us stressing about it individually.
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You hardy impatient frontier folk!
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You hardy impatient frontier folk!
:D :D :D
My wire was sent May 5. My bank called to confirm it went through. I got an e-mail from Roman the next day asking if I was still interested. I told him I had just wired the money. I'm assuming there was some lag with the time zones, etc. Haven't heard anything since, but I'm assuming all is good. I'm an optimist! And my invoice did indicate the color - white. Now I have to go peel the plastic off a pair of TB pups...... Got chrome covers, rings, a Gibson TRC, some CTS pots, and a pickguard tracing from Rob. I guess I need to order some chrome cap knobs. ;D
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So, this morning Roman replied to my email asking if he had received my payment.
Here's what he wrote:
Yes , tks.
Your instrument left us yesterday.
BaCH Music , Czech
I'm pretty excited.
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Sounds like things are coming together pretty well, overall. I emailed Roman a copy of my wire transfer doc after I did the transfer. Hopefully, that will expedite things a little.
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One advice: ALWAYS ask for the tracking number after you pay. It's good to know where's your 'bird.
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Yeah, I replied with a request for the tracking number.
Hopefully he'll send it. If not... Well, what can we do?
I just hope the bird makes it here.
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He will send it, it may be necessary to kindly remind it more than once thru. Maybe he has a weak memory or something.
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Hi guys , I am Roman from BaCH Music . We can see many nice or not-nice words also.
I have to give my warm thanks to Rob .
First - We are very busy with our business and this project has not been easy just due to the specifications.
We will always try do the best for our customers and business partners.
There is few misunderstanding - how We can see.
Well , to the payments . Payments by PayPal are not cheaper like by Bank for us.
Maybe much easier for You but not for us.
We should pay to PayPal fees then to our bank and many other complications with it.
Unfortunately We cannot use the PayPal account for our business payments and that way the PayPal is expensive for us.
(Pls send us a mail You guy who asked us two time for that tracking number and You have not got it because it is not truth)
We feel the bank transfer as the best and easy way for all payment.
Another one - The Czech country is not any Jungle ....how We cen feel from the sentences . . .
Go to visit our country . We gues We are (and were ) West people . No any Russians or Ukraine.
Look at our history since ¨the 1900 Year. Who wanted the Russia occupation ? Few stupid old Fools.
Ok. To the history . . . . .
One problem are orders We have to cancel because of no reply from the customer from abroad.
We book the instruments for weeks and nothing. Bad job.
To guys from U.S.A. - We found a serious problem to send instruments to U.S.A. that time.
The basses were much longer like We could send by Post .
Any other ways were shity expensive .
Then We chose the best way - EMS. A little more expensive like the common Post but . . .
We get many asks for the Bass parts made for TH-1.
They should be done next week and a notice will be on our web after that.
We thank our customers and friends from the World !
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Welcome Roman!
I really appreciate it that you joined in to explain.
respect,
Rob
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Welcome Roman!
All the BaCHBird players are very happy with the bass! Nice work! Thanks. Yep, we make a lot of quite bad jokes here, but we do that about everything!! So no worries:)
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Hey Roman, I'm Kostas from Greece, I hope you understand my bad taste of humor here.
I'm very excited about the bass, so do my friend from Greece that bought 2 telecaster (one with binding) from you.
VERY nice work!
And I'm planning on visiting Prague on september. Maybe I'll visit your shop if you are near.
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Roman, you're very welcome! It is really good for us, as customers, to get knowledge of if, and how, we can help Bach to get the basses to us in the best way. Very welcome!!! And thank you for taking such an important, and absloutely necessary, part in the operation with the Thunderbach!
Don't take some of the comments in this forum to serious. We're just a bunch of kids waiting for Santa Claus! Who happens to live in Czech!!!
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I got an email today, indicating my bass was going out the door today. Tracking number given, too. Not bad - they're shipping 3 days after I made payment.
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Welcome Roman ! What a fantastic job you have done with this bass ! I want one ! I have sent a email and look forward to your reply.
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Welcome Roman!! I hope some of our members have not been rude to you . i own a mahog Tele bass from Bach and it is beautiful.
Im waiting patiently for your email/invoice. Again,Thank you,Mike
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Shot last saturday. Looks like I'm checking for buckle wear in that first pic 8)
That Hartke disaster is not mine btw...
EDIT: pics removed because of copyrights... sorry fellas
here's the link (http://www.basementonline.nl/nieuw.php?band=Stonefly&datum=9%20May%202009&zaal=Ekko)
Cool pics ! The bass looks great on ya !
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Welcome Roman! We discuss and argue here like old friends! We have no bad feelings for B&CH and have been happy to see the project be successful. You have made a few bass players from all over the world very happy!
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Wow, Roman, that is taking an interst in what customers think. Whatever hiccups there have been in the ordering, production and shipping process, the quality of the product let's everything end well. And of course you may keep Sudetenland! ; - )
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Roman, its nice of you to join the forum and have a presence here. People always appreciate a manufacturer's involvement in the community - so I hope to see you stay around! I also hope that you take the comments in jest, and realize that everyone who is on the receiving end of a BaCHBird fully appreciates your efforts in seeing this through. Look at it this way, if people were not extremely excited, emotional, and passionate about this project this thread would not span 50+ pages! ;)
I hope you see a good demand for these basses through your website, as it would be nice to see you continue building them. Just based on the reports from folks here, it sounds like you did a splendid job! I'm looking forward to playing it, and I want to express much gratitude to you and Rob (and whomever among us provided the measurements/tracings) for making this instrument a reality! 8)
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Roman! What a surprise visit!! I almost fell out of my chair when I read your post. ;D
Thank you, thank you for addressing the forum. We are glad to have you with us
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Everybody, I received my white BaCHbird today!
The receptionist at work told me I received a package that was too big to fit in my mailbox.
I didn't think it would get here so quickly!
Let me just say that I have dreamed of having a proper non-reverse for the last 20 years and never
had the kind of money to afford one of the originals.
It is a beautiful instrument. It feels so good under the hands and plays better than I had hoped.
I'm going to do some playing with the fellas tonight and will have a full report tomorrow.
Makin' dreams come true, these Czech craftsmen are.
Special thanks go to you Rob. You've spearheaded this operation and held it together this whole time. Drinks on me next time you're in DC, or if I'm in your neck of the woods.
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Congratulations Mark!
Another happy BaCHbird owner.
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It's here! A note from the mailman saying "sorry we missed you". :-[
Oh well, tomorrow I guess. I don't think I'll be bold enough to use it at tomorrow's gig, but I think it will come out with me next Thursday. ;D
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So I heard a knock on the door this morning...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/BCHDelivery1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/2009_05180005.jpg)
The boys were more excited than I was and each claimed a bass as I opened the packages. The older one grabbed the blue one first off (so I guess I won't be selling it). The younger one claimed the white one as soon as he saw it, so at least I won't have to settle a fight as to who gets which one! I guess I should take comfort in the fact that they'll let the old man have use of them for at least a few years... ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/BaCHNRThunderbirdsIII.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/BaCHNRThunderbirdSonicBluebodyVI.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20White/BaCHNRThunderbirdWhitebodyIII.jpg)
The shipping boxes were taped together and bubble wrapped in and out. Somewhere along the way they took a few good hits at the small end and the blue one has a few small nicks in the end of the headstock (shallow, not through the paint). Nothing to be worried over as that spot would probably look the same after a few gigs anyway. I'm extremely impressed with these basses. Even for twice the money they'd be a great deal. I haven't plugged them in yet, so there's more to look into before my final opinion is logged, but so far I'm one happy Thunderbird fan. This is the coolest custom order I've ever been involved with, and I'm really excited that everyone who could did their part to make this come together. It's hard to believe this started as far back as it did, but the wait was worth it!
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Picked mine up at the post office this morning. I love it! The neck is seriously great. Super slim. Reminds me a little of my 4001CS. Fret work seems good. I immediately mounted a strap lock at the heel of the neck. It balances a million times better that way. Also got the Gibson TRC on there and swapped the output jack and tone pot to their proper locations. As far as the tone - it's not really working for me. The Artec pup has an EMG kind of sound. I'll be putting a TB+ on there ASAP, probably eventually followed by a second. But that's all good. This thing can't be beat for the money. It's too bad they're not more readily available. I would definitely recommend one to someone looking for an affordable but decent instrument. And it's a great foundation for custom projects. Thanks to everyone involved! Oh and I love the fact that it's called a TH-1. :P
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Congrats Tom & George!
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For all us Statesiders, the tracking number can be searched on the USPS site. I already know that my bass left Praha on May 16.
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More happy bass owners and more on the way. It's been a learning experience all around and it's finally coming to pass.
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
This is what showed up in my email this A.M.
All this time I've be patient, not bugging him just wanting an invoice.
Friggin sucks!
Mark We had to canceled Your order because You have been silence.
BaCH Music , Czech
This was my reply to his last email to me.........
Hello Roman,
Thank you for the note, I think the EMS service would work very well for
me. When you have a total amount for the bass and the shipping please let me
know and I will do a bank wire transfer, or any method of payment you wish.
Thanks for your help with the bass!
Sincerely,
Mark Hills
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Well, don't just stand there, do something! Send him an email. I'm sure they'll make another batch. At twice the price, but that is how capitalism works. :)
Silence is generally something I do not associate with you, Fräulein Rommel. :-*
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Mark, they 'canceled' my order too but sent a second invoice when I let them know I was ready to pay. I'm sure some of it gets lost in cultural translation, but I'm sure they'd be happy to sell you a bass once they get the money. I'll bet your reply gets answered soon. Good luck and if you don't hear from him after a few days send another one! ;)
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Mark, definitely keep trying. It could be that the invoice never got to you, or it wound up in your Spam folder. Considering all the anticipation for this bass, I was surprised when Roman mentioned a number of people who hadn't responded to the invoice. Be persistent, and I'm sure when they understand you're ready to pay, they'll send a new invoice.
Roman, you there? We need a little help from you on this.
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I did send him a note right away........
He's never sent an invoice or given me a total of any kind, much less a bank to send it to......
So it's rather frustrating.
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This is not very encouraging to me, either, since I haven't heard from Roman in a month. His last e-mail to me was explaining the shipping issues and costs, to which I replied that everything was fine and please send an invoice. Anyway, I've just e-mailed Roman again (with my fingers crossed) letting him know that I'm still interested.
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I have emailed him twice to try and get back in. What a dumbass I was for backing out. The basses look great !
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what a dumb ass i was for being in the first 20 or so!!! Some get 2 others......... ???
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Obviously I spoke too soon. :-[
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I don't think name order on the original 'list' has anything to do with the order of shipping or selling these basses. That any of this came together is a small miracle. BaCH began shipping to those it could easily ship to and is branching out from there. I was among the first few who originally tried to get this ball rolling almost two years ago at the Dudepit and was definitely that early on the 'list'. I'm pretty sure I originally planned on getting three right off the bat, but the only reason I got these two yesterday is that my name finally came up on Roman's list (and even then it took a couple tries) and two was all I could afford at the moment. I don't know that these are flying out their doors other than for those people either on Roman's list or who have emailed him directly and gotten a response. Last I saw, there was no price listed for the TH-1 on their website (unlike all the other guitars and basses there). Am I right in thinking there were at least 50 basses made so far? If so, I'm sure they haven't sold near that many yet so I'd bet that those who want one will get one eventually.
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All I had to do to get mine is mumble something about "unsettled border issues that need to be looked into" ...
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Report: this bass is awesome.
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I haven't heard from Roman since 22 April. So I checked my spam folder to see if I missed anything. Nope. Now I just feel inadequate and undermedicated.
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I think for every 2-3 emails I sent, I received one response.
Not sure if it helped but I also kept my messages short and simple with key words like "Yes, please send invoice"
and "did you receive payment? When will bass ship?"
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My bass entered Customs in NY last night. Shouldn't be long now! I might have this in time to gig with it this week-end. ;D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/BaCHNRThunderbirdsIII.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20Sonic%20Blue/small/BaCHNRThunderbirdSonicBluebodyVI.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/BaCH%20TH-1%20White/BaCHNRThunderbirdWhitebodyIII.jpg)
Those are hot!
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"I don't think name order on the original 'list' has anything to do with the order of shipping or selling these basses."
No Shit!!!
I have sent at least 4 or 5 unanswered email to our friend Roman! the last response from him was at the holidays when I wished them happy holidays. I dont think the area of shipping to the US should make a difference.
"So I checked my spam folder to see if I missed anything. Nope. Now I just feel inadequate and undermedicated".
Ditto!
Uwe is there an unmanned blimp or slow moving air craft you could send on my behalf to drop off 4Kg. sausage and some pilsner to the BaCH crew so they at least send me an email saying they got my email . :mrgreen:
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Report: this bass is awesome.
+1! I could seriously see this thing becoming my #1. Droppin in a TB+ tonight. Might add a kill switch eventually as I like to do the Townsend/Frehley stuttering feedback thing a lot.
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Great Tom. :toast:
That was the whole idea; a good -yet affordable- basis for everybody to start off. And then modify it, each to his own liking.
Has anyone been planning a nitro refin yet?
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I think for every 2-3 emails I sent, I received one response.
Not sure if it helped but I also kept my messages short and simple with key words like "Yes, please send invoice"
and "did you receive payment? When will bass ship?"
This was my experience as well. I don't know whether they use a translator program or if Roman has some English speaking skills, so I've tried to keep it really simple.
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Hi Guys ,
I am really very sorry for my delay with reply You but be sure I keep in "shity" busy every day.
How I can see there is many things to explaining .
Mark and Mike will get Invoices today because of the Time progression .
I am innocent in that sometimes . I do not do the Invoice job.
I get 50 business mails daily and some deals need me for a day.
Guys I am ready to solve anything with You and pls do not be worry to send me a mail.
I hope in the most possitive cooperation among us.
Take care and don´t be angry on me and don´t call me "You fu...." , You know. :) :) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I think all here appreciate all you have done in making a "Dream bass" a reality.
For some the dream can not get here soon enough!
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Sorry if I missed it but is there a 3rd colour?
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So there is! The first ones were white, while the later ones are either black or sonic blue, with white pickguard.
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don´t call me "You fu...."
I get the feeling people here would never be that overt and boring.
Ok, now we need another run.
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We all appreciate Roman and the efforts on our behalf. We are not always that patient or understanding on this side of the pond. We do have a great sense of humor and enjoy a good laugh, unlike some of our foreign friends. :mrgreen:
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Thanks Roman! I'm glad to see you understand that our complaining is only because we are excited about your wonderful bass! It's great to have you here to contribute and see why we are so excited.
So there is! The first ones were white, while the later ones are either black or sonic blue, with white pickguard.
I'm not sure, but I think that white basses were also included in the second batch that were made. That's why I can't be sure about the actual number of TH-1s that are available. One thing I'm pretty sure of is that anybody who wants one will have one eventually (and sooner, rather than later).
And for the record, I really want a black one now!
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I have an invoice for a black one today............. :)
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I think all here appreciate all you have done in making a "Dream bass" a reality.
For some the dream can not get here soon enough!
Dream bass... I was thinking that last night after I dropped the chrome covered TB+ in there. Tis a cool beast. Breakin it in tonight at McGee's on Webster in Chicago.
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I think black would look really sharp.
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We'll see!
I just got back from completing the bank wire transfer.
Now I'm all sproingky with anticipation :gay:
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Girls have all da'luck ! :mrgreen:
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Dream bass... I was thinking that last night after I dropped the chrome covered TB+ in there. Tis a cool beast. Breakin it in tonight at McGee's on Webster in Chicago.
Break a leg (not a headstock)! Can't wait to hear your report... ;)
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Anyone put a GreatDealz Tug Bar on theirs yet?
Anyone putting witch hats on as well?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/34bodred.jpg)
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We'll see!
I just got back from completing the bank wire transfer.
Now I'm all sproingky with anticipation :gay:
I coudn't find what that word ("sproing" or "sproingky") meant, but I have a hunch it has to do with ample humidity :rolleyes: which is always a good thing for a mahogany bass.
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Anyone putting witch hats on as well?
You betcha! I have black speed knobs on there now. Going to horrible GC this weekend. With any luck they'll have some.
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So I took the B-bird out last night. Played the whole show with it. It's a hit! The neck is dreamy and it's light with that thin body. The tone with a single TB+ is great, pick or fingerstyle. Pretty one dimensional, but excellent nonetheless. Switching from fingers to pick is about the best way to alter the tone. I often solo the neck pup (on a two pup bass) and roll down the tone control for a boomier sound or vintage thump, but this bass seemed to get lost in the mix volume-wise when I tried that a couple of times. I was really comfortable with the bass. And it looks like nothing else out there. For a total of $392 US (including shipping and wire transfer fees), I'd say I'm pretty lucky. :mrgreen:
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I coudn't find what that word ("sproing" or "sproingky") meant, but I have a hunch it has to do with ample humidity :rolleyes: which is always a good thing for a mahogany bass.
Sproing (http://www.tjande.com/sounds/sproing.wav)
I'll leave the rest to your imagination. ;)
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'Tumb rest and witch hats are a must!....hey wait a minute...I need a BaCH Boid first!! :mrgreen: sschwingggg!
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Sproing (http://www.tjande.com/sounds/sproing.wav)
I'll leave the rest to your imagination. ;)
:o ;D ;D ;D
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Hey!
Girls gotta have fun ;)
I think I'm single again, I haven't heard from Chris/Doug? in weeks ;D
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I think he dumped you when he dumped his Doug persona. ;D
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Poor Mark!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zCj-72-DUU&feature=related
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HA HA! You guys are harsh! Lost romance is always a sad thing...
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Man I bet that Butt Rub felt good!
I think he dumped you when he dumped his Doug persona. ;D
Somewhere in there he coyly asked wether "the mice had nibbled the cheese" and hey, I'm honest, no virgin here..........But then neither is he :sad:
Perhaps it's because he got a Buzzard
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Does anyone have a link to specs for this (60 pages is a lot to troll through).
Are they made in the Czech Republic, or ?
I wonder if he'd do a 2 p/u version...
Thanks!
JM
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Does anyone have a link to specs for this (60 pages is a lot to troll through).
Are they made in the Czech Republic, or ?
I wonder if he'd do a 2 p/u version...
Thanks!
JM
Rob (Basvarken) may have specs, AFAIK there's nothing published.
They are made in the Czech republic, I think the hardware and pickups are Korean.
This project has taken over 2 years and is far from over. There are no special orders, and all the present production is spoken for. But who knows, somewhere down the line they may offer it as a regular production item and might offer a two-pickup option.
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It's a remake of the Gibson Non Reverse Thunderbird II.
Mahogany body with set neck (also mahogany) Rosewood fret board.
The pickup is an Artec AlNiCo humbucker with bar magnets.
So far BaCH made two series: in total there's 30 whites, 10 black ones and 10 sonic blues ones
The basses are not available for people who didn't sign in for this project.
I don't know if BaCH has concrete plans to make a third run of a NR-Tbird II. And I don';t know if they're actually planning a NR-Tbird IV.
Perhaps Roman can tell more.
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101177/th-1-wh (http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101177/th-1-wh)
I know they are planning to build a Fenderbird.
I have no idea when...
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So I get up this morning, and decided to see where my bass was. I check on USPS, and it's showing that it arrived in Grove City a couple hours ago. Cool! It was about mail delivery time, and I opened the door to see if I had a note waiting. The postman had just pulled up, and was getting out of his car. Yes! The package worried me at first - it was bowed at the back, but once I opened it up, no problems! I pissed off my wife by trying it out real quick on my practice amp. Nice and fat. Gotta get dressed and get some strings for this. What kind are you guys putting on? Anyone planning on putting the pots and jack in the historically correct placement?
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/gweimer/basses/BaCH_Pkg.jpg?t=1243092181)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/gweimer/basses/BaCH_Full.jpg?t=1243092493)
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Drooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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It's lookin' good Gary!
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Four emails to Roman nothing yet so far :sad: I was looking at the Bach web site and saw this, I just might go for it ! All of $257 US :o http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101126/bach-pb-60-sbl/
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Four emails to Roman nothing yet so far :sad: I was looking at the Bach web site and saw this, I just might go for it ! All of $257 US :o http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101126/bach-pb-60-sbl/
They don't have a US Distributor, what makes you think that one would be any easier to get? And with shipping, it would be just as much as the BaCHbird.
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At this point I don't know that they have a bird to sell me all are spoken for, I presume this is in stock. I am mad at myself for taking my name off the list but I was out of work for so long I didn't see a end in sight, I didn't want to have the extra bill hanging over my head.
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Okay, how many have made it to the US? Gary, George, Tom (gearhed) mojo hobo, Low End Theorist, that's five, and Mark's has been invoiced and paid. Anyone else?
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At this point I don't know that they have a bird to sell me all are spoken for, I presume this is in stock. I am mad at myself for taking my name off the list but I was out of work for so long I didn't see a end in sight, I didn't want to have the extra bill hanging over my head.
Don't give up hope yet.
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I put a couple of witch hats on mine, and decided I'm going to gig with it tonight using the D'Addario Nickels that came with it. I'll report back in the morning. I also have to do my "Tom Petersson" strap lock on it - an oversized washer on the outside of the actual strap button. The strap keeps wanting to jump off the bass.
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I do they same thing for strap lock when I can't find the Bill Lawrence leather ones !
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There's a sonic blue one in transit with my name on it. The wire transfer fee was only $20, which is much easier to take than the $75 that was brought up earlier.
As soon as I get pickguard material I'll put in a 60's pickup. The artec just looks out of place to me.
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A question for those who have received their bass, how are the tuners? Are they solid or has anyone replaced them?
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The tuners seem solid on mine.
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The tuners aren't as firm yet creamy as good tuners would be, but they do the job better than worn out sixties original TB tuners would.
All those intent on tearing out the Aectec pup at first sight: Give the little bugger a chance, I like its sound, not as phat as a TB Plus, but it has a nice slight scoop in the mids which goes well with the overall sound characteristic of the bass. I think the much thinner neck has more to do with the sound difference to a sixties TB Non Rev than the Arctec pup.
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A vain attempt to keep me from installing a chrome Lull pup in mine - it'll cost more than the bass ;D
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I like too how this artec sounds. I already got a pair of those Artecs (but in BLACK PLASTIC) to install in my Epi Tbird. HELL YEAH!
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A question for those who have received their bass, how are the tuners? Are they solid or has anyone replaced them?
They look kind of cheesy and I found myself tuning more than usual at the gig the other night. Pretty sure I'll be putting some Hipshot Ultralights and a D tuner on there soon.
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Well, I christened the Bird last night. I can only echo what everyone has been saying - great bass! It plays and sounds just great right out of the box. The tuners do feel a little looser than I'm used to, but I didn't have to tune it too much. Considering there was no A/C in the club last night, and it was up in the nineties inside, I'd say that was a pretty good acid test. I should have some pics available later from our MySpace page. I'd say this bass was well worth the wait.
Oh, and I did christen the bass right. I already have my first cymbal ding in the headstock. My old Embassy was riddled with them by the time I sold it.
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All good reviews so far.
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I have one too! Very happy! --Rikkimax
Okay, how many have made it to the US? Gary, George, Tom (gearhed) mojo hobo, Low End Theorist, that's five, and Mark's has been invoiced and paid. Anyone else?
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I have no complaints about the tuners on my BaCHbird.
As far as I can see they're exactly the same as the ones on my Epi JCS.
I'd choose them any time over the tuners on the 7ender Road Worn Jazz ($ 1570!) that I have at home right now. Those are horrible.
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Got my invoice today. Getting a black one. I'm thinking tort pg and gold witch hat knobs before all is said and done.
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Dear Basvarken and BaCH Brothers:
Warning. It's a good thing that the Epiphone case that Basvarken received (and customized) for his BaCHbird was the one made with a cutout specifically for a "reverse" Thunderbird. The guy at the Basvarken's store was indeed wrong (but not just for the reason mentioned). The Epiphone Thunderbird case that DOES NOT HAVE the specific cutout for a "reverse" (i.e. the one with just an open rectangular space for the bass body) DOES NOT FIT the BaCHbird. It is too short. The Epi case made with a specific cutout for a "reverse" T-Bird is longer, and will fit a BaCHbird, if customized.
I too wanted a hardshell case to protect my BaCHbird, so I went to my local music store to purchase an Epi T-Bird case with the "open retangular space" for the body. Upon inspection, it was immediately clear that the BaCHbird was too long for the case.
Fortunately, I already owned a hardshell case for my Epiphone Reverse Thunderbird that had the specific "reverse" cutout. I was therefore able to use the new "rectangular space" case for my "reverse" Epi T-Bird bass, and I will customize my old "reverse" cutout case to use with the BaCHbird, as Basvarken did so beautifully and effectively.
Hope this saves you guys some possible headaches. Please make sure that any Epiphone T-bird case that you order or purchase for your BaCHbird is one that has the cutout for a "reverse" T-Bird.
I ordered an Epiphone Thunderbird case for the BaCHbird the other day. I had to because it doesn't fit in any of the cases nor gig bags I have...
The guy at the store assured me the case would fit a Non Reverse Thunderbird. The right dimensions, etc. And from the pictures I saw I did not forsee any problems.
Yesterday the case arrived. Of course the guy of the store was wrong.
It had a shaped interior. Shaped for the Reverse Thunderbrid. The case in the pics was not shaped...
So I had two options:
1- send it back and start the quest for a case all over again.
2- take out the toolbox...
So I took out the toolbox and took out the compartment of the body. Tore off the plush. Cut the polystyren to shape. And glued it all back together again.
So now it fits:
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case2.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/emptycase.jpg)
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So what options do we have for cases and/or gig bags? I used my Ibanez gig bag this week-end. It's about 2-3" too short, but generally does a pretty good job.
My wife wants to buy me a case for my birthday this year, but wants to pick it out herself. I need a little help on this one.
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I would say that one option would be to go to a reputable music store and see what they have in stock. If they don't have anything, I would ask them to call their Epiphone contact to special order a case specifically with the "reverse" cutout. That is how I got my original "reverse" cutout case for my Epi T-Bird, although at that time I didn't order it one way or the other, as it didn't matter to me what type of case that I got from them (either reverse cutout or "open")... I wouldn't try to do it through an online store, as they generally can't check their stock before shipping to confirm what you would be getting!
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I love reading this thread and am now completely GASing for a BaCHbird.
Regarding cases. I had a huge drama trying to get a case for my Epi Explorer bass.
I found a shop (Epi dealer) here in Oz that actually knew how to custom order the cases from Epi. I found about 5 or 6 Epi dealers that did not. It still took 3 goes before I got the right size and shape but the internal section was divided into 2 sections only. ie the neck area and the body area. The body area is not moulded to the body shape. Its just a padded rectangle. The pointy bits rest against the padded sides so it doesnt move around at all.
I would guess that the BaCHbird will need a bit more than this.
Either way I guess this just confirms that you can custom order Epi cases. Hope thats helpful.
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I know a BC Rich Warlock padded Gig bag works for mine.
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Another week and still no love for NH!!!
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The Bachbird will fit in an Epi Explorer bass case. It will fit very snugly into an Epi Non Rev case, but those are rare. It will fit in a Ritter Rev gig bag if turned face down into it.
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There's no bass that I cannot fit in my warwick gigbag. It may be expensive, but its extermely well-made. It could survive a nuclear war. I call it "corpse gig-bag" because of its monstrous size..
http://www.thomann.de/gr/warwickrockbag_rb20620bplus.htm
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As of today mine is in transit..........
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I need to visit with Mike Lull over the weekend and track down a pick up and see if he'll cut a white pearloid PG based on Rob's PDF.
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Hey, Mark. You should A/B the BaCH vs. the Lull for us.
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Hey, Mark. You should A/B the BaCH vs. the Lull for us.
$400 VS $4,000 bass would be entertaining!
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$400 VS $4,000 bass would be entertaining!
It's a scary thing to say..................But my Lull was actually a 5400.00 bass.
Based on what all you that have them already I'm sure I will like the BaCH very much after it's had a Lull pup installed along with some new pots (I think I'll give this a try!) I daresay most folks won't be able to tell the difference between the two...............
I'll see what I can do about an A/B test, I don't currently have the means but our guitarist might.
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I need to visit with Mike Lull over the weekend and track down a pick up and see if he'll cut a white pearloid PG based on Rob's PDF.
Hey remember Scott can do that too.
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You're right!
And better yet too ;)
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A little blue bird landed on my doorstep today! I just happen to have my big rig set up in the living room, so neighbors cover your ears! More later.
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I never thought about until I took this picture, but this bass looks right at home with my Acoustic amp.
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/thesecretcells/bachbird.jpg)
Overall, I'm very pleased with the BBird. I might do a slight fret dressing, as some of the upper frets feel rough when bending. The neck is a little thinner than I'm used to but I'll adjust quickly.
The tuners feel fine to me so no need to switch them out. I noticed a little slipping on the G string, but the string only wraps around the post once.
As far as the pickup goes, I'm pleasantly surprised. It seems slightly scooped in the mids but not to the extreme. I could easily see playing on it as is with no worries if I didn't have an original 60's pup to put in.
Maybe down the line I'll have to get a black one, if only to put the soon to be extra Artec in it. ;D
Cheers to Rob and all of you who made this great venture possible !!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :toast: :thumbsup:
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Cool!
Congrats :toast:
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I wonder if they will do a third run and if they will do an IV ?
What color would be next?
A metallic either Inverness green or Pelham Blue would be cool
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Oh yeah, I'd sign up for a IV!
I wonder if they will do a third run and if they will do an IV ?
What color would be next?
A metallic either Inverness green or Pelham Blue would be cool
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If there is demand I do not see why he would not do another run. At such a great price people are getting two of them!
Certainly that says something about doing a IV version.
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I'd be very tempted on a IV, but I'm waiting to see if Dingwall moves forward on their Thunderbird model.
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Hi guys . I´d like say something to these guys - Matthew K., Eric S. , Julian H. , Mike G. . Robert D.L.C. , Scott , Matt H. , Bart P.
We will have to cancel Your invoices and to offer the basses to other players.
You all have got the Invoices and no reply no payment.
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Hey I never got an invoice!!!!!!!! I have sent many recent emails and no response from Roman!
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Roman, I have sent you one to your email already, and am sending you another one right now. The invoice stated that the last day for payment was the 4th of June, and I intend to have it posted before then.
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Keep trying. Mark had problems receiving his invoice, and managed to get it worked out.
Also, don't forget that there is a time involved in getting payment to B & CH Music. The last day of payment on the invoice may be the day they need to RECEIVE the payment rather than the day you SEND it. I think my payment took 2-3 days to make it to their account. One thing I did was to send Roman a copy of my wire transfer, so they would know when and how I made payment.
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Mr Postman knocked on my door today. Guess what he had to say? Tomorrow, Tuesday afternoon, the package from Bach will reach my post office! It took almost two weeks to get here. Now it's only 18 hours away. This piece will be my first New Bass since September 1964. That time it was a violin Hofner. By then the Non Rev was just a twink in Gibsons eye. The story will continue... hopefully tomorrow!
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Roman, I've probably sent you 5 emails in the past 2 weeks with no invoice arriving. Try my other email address which is hornetamx1 (at) aol (dot) com. You will have to substitute the two words in parenthesis with the @ and . respectively. I do want the bass but just have not received anything other than your original email back in January.
Robert D.L.C.
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And I have a note from the Post Office today as well..........
My Black Bird had landed, I'll pick it up tomorrow.
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FINALLY. After several emails yesterday to Roman ,I was having my coffee and I got a couple emails from Roman. Im going to the bank today. :mrgreen:
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All good things come to those who wait,
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And then there was a Black one............... ;D
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2010.jpg)
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Nice in black! Can't see the chrome cover too well in the light. I suspect you'll do something about that. ;)
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Congrats Mark!
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Now you can get down with your bad self!
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I just emailed Roger about a Lull pup and having a new pearloid PG done................ ;D
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Mark, that ROCKS! I want a black one so bad now! ;D
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So, it took some time, but now the Bird is here. Haven't had the time to take any pics yet, maybe tomorrow. P J, bass player in the same band as my son, Los Bastards, got his in the same package. He couldn't belive his eyes when he saw his Bluebird.
I opened her immediately, to change the tone control to it's proper place. The cable wasn't long enough, so I have to do it another day when there's more time.
Has anyone got any ideas about the saddle? Are you satisfied with it? Is there any way to change the pickup cover to a proper one? How? And where to get a proper? Control knobs? Suggestions?
The neck is really great! Slim! Fast! The colour, sonic blue, is so cool!
No need to change the strings. I'm used to Rotosound, 45-105, since Adam was the officer in charge, and these suits me perfect.
Any idea concerning upgrading is welcome, though it really doesn't seem like a priority matter. Thursday night I'll try it out with the band.
Feels kinda strange that we're where we are. I'm very thankful to all you guys, and possibly most to Rob, the high-flying Dutchman, who rode the show to a happy ending. Thanks, guys!
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Congrats first of all Staffan.
Has anyone got any ideas about the saddle?
Perfect. Maybe the metal is a bit soft. But so far I have no complaints
Are you satisfied with it?
Yes.
Is there any way to change the pickup cover to a proper one? How?
check this (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=1849.0) thread
And where to get a proper?
Check Greatdealz at Ebay
Control knobs? Suggestions?
Check Allparts for reflector cap knobs
Any idea concerning upgrading is welcome, though it really doesn't seem like a priority matter.
The pots should be replaced anyway so why not install a push/pull volume pot to enable the single coil modus? It's quite easy to do even for a non techno like me ;)
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That black one rocks Mark!
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I just emailed Roger about a Lull pup and having a new pearloid PG done................ ;D
That will look VERY cool! You should ask Mike about his opinion of the bass. So far, we all seem to love it, but someone from the Czech Republic on the FDP wasn't so keen about BaCH. His opinion was that:
1. They were probably actually made in China (not that I care after playing mine)
2. Their basses were beginners instruments (not that I agree in the slightest)
I'm still very impressed with this bass. After I drop the '60s pickup in (I might check the wiring to make sure it's in line with the original specs), I'll see if I see a big difference. My first impression is that the $30 Arctec might be the best cheap pickup around.
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Staffan, I'm happy you finally were able to get through and receive your bass.
At this rate, you should be ready for another new one in 2054. :)
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George... I do a nice line in refins if you're interested... :o :o :o
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Hi Gary . I have to reply You at Your sentences below:
That will look VERY cool! You should ask Mike about his opinion of the bass. So far, we all seem to love it, but someone from the Czech Republic on the FDP wasn't so keen about BaCH. His opinion was that:
1. They were probably actually made in China (not that I care after playing mine)
2. Their basses were beginners instruments (not that I agree in the slightest)
The basses and any other BaCH instrument are not MADE IN CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can say this honestly they have never seen China . . hahahahaha
All hardware is made in KOREA or a Korea company .
You can see on the Internet and many other forums how much the guys are erudite and how often We all who know
something about this or that - the real facts , do smile .
Every one from us has a person who dislike You .
Tell to the Czech guy he should contact us or visit us.
But . . . You know the story about that disbelieve Thomas . . . .
Take care You all .
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Mr. Bach: I already recorded some songs with the BachBird. Go to www.thelalalies.nl and look for the www.4shared.com free downloadable files. Hope you like it! (I do!)
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Roman, thanks for the reply. I'll take what my hands and ears have to say over someone's opinion on the internet any day of the week. I think the bass is just great. And, I think what everyone here has been saying about the bass is a better testimony than your usual anonymous internet banter.
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How much to BaCHbirds go for? They sure are nice looking!
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I was gonna say - I've never seen this kind of quality out of China. Korea and Indonesia, yes, but not China. NO frets sticking out the end of the fingerboard or anything weird. Seems to be a fine instrument. This bass is going to be getting a lot of stage time with me. ;D
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I've had mine for just a day now and have played it for about an hour, my first impressions are that this is an amazing bass for the money! The finish and overall quality are very nice, the neck is slender and fits my small hands very well, I like it!
Here's a closer "traditional" owners shot.
Cheers Rob! Thanks for making this a reality and thanks Roman for taking care of us :)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2012.jpg)
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Roman, just to be clear, all of us here know they are not made in China.
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I'm not so worried about where they are made, but I think mine might have a poly finish :o
:runs, hides self under desk, remains motionless:
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They all have a poly finish, yes.
you can come out from under the desk now ;)
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Finish doesn't influence sound, the Honorable Chairman has always said.
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I'm only kidding about any finish concerns, of course. Just poking that bear, so to speak ;) ;D
Its a beautiful instrument. BaCH did a splendid job, poly finish and all! I feel right at home on it, and will play it proudly. It stands up VERY well next to the 76, which has been my main band/gig bass lately.
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Roman, I have emailed you 4 time, I know you get many emails, I hope to hear from you soon. I would love to buy two of these fine basses.
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Yay! Got my invoice today. It came to my AOL address after having problems receiving it on my Roadrunner account. I'll be cruising to the bank tomorrow to send the wire out Roman! :mrgreen:
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Hi guys . I´d like say something to these guys - Matthew K., Eric S. , Julian H. , Mike G. . Robert D.L.C. , Scott , Matt H. , Bart P.
We will have to cancel Your invoices and to offer the basses to other players.
You all have got the Invoices and no reply no payment.
Hi Roman. I've also sent you several e-mails over the past few weeks and I have never received a reply or an invoice. I'm going to send you an e-mail now from a couple of my different e-mail addresses. Please please please keep an eye out for my e-mails!
Thank you,
Eric
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when you send your wire,send it in euros. its cheaper than sending in dollars!!??! :mrgreen:
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when you send your wire,send it in euros. its cheaper than sending in dollars!!??! :mrgreen:
This is what I did as well. I'd imagine it's cheaper for BaCH as well.
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when you send your wire,send it in euros. its cheaper than sending in dollars!!??! :mrgreen:
Yes. It also assures that you are sending the correct amount. Something about converting the currency will drive the cost at this end up if you don't send in Euros. When I got my invoice, I converted to a dollar amount so I'd know how much to wire. When I got to the bank 2 hours later, the exchange rate had changed, and my cost went up $12.
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I had a ratty '76 case in the closet, it's a total Road Warrior! I removed the foam pad from the end and repositioned the neck support, the bass fits great! ;)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2014.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2016.jpg)
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Very nice! I sent out my wire today so there will be a black bird on the way to Texas soon! BTW, my Credit Union charged $32 for the wire fees. I know some paid more and others less. Still a great deal all around. Thanks to all involved for making it happen!
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I took mine to a jam night tonight. The house amp is a bit wonky (the guy is running a 350-watt Hartke, with all the mids scooped out, and a 1x18 front-loaded cab). I brought up some mids, and boosted a little 120hz. It brought out the Mott in me. heh-heh
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Hey remember Scott can do that too.
I have had a number of guys asking me about pick guards. Here is what I can do. I can only do the thin w/b/w material (Sorry Mark). About the logo pm me, I won't talk about it in a forum. As of yet I have no way to fit a guard to the Bach bird (I hope that changes soon !) so I think it best for you guys to cut the pickup hole and fit the guard yourselves or have someone do it. The guards are $69.00 each, and that includes a little gift from me ;) I just emailed chromium with a price of $78.00 Joe please ignore that, $69.00 is a special price for the guys in this forum in honor of my beloved '69 Thunderbird :)
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Well, unlike Mark, I have no case that will fit this large headed beast. :sad: But, as luck would have it, I run a flight case company here outside of Chicago, so I had my very first bass flight case built. ;D I used our polypropylene material for the panels, rather than wood/laminate, so the case comes in at 29 pounds. I just weighed it with the bass inside and it shows 38.5 pounds. Our price on this case would be $510. I know... it is what it is. :rolleyes: But, you get what you pay for! IF any forum members are interested, I can do one for $430. There's not a lot of mark up on this stuff..... We can go cheaper if we ditch the fancy fur lining and just do plain foam, but I don't really like to do that. Anyway, just passing it along, not looking to make a buck off you guys!
FYI - so far I have added a late model TB+ with NOS 70s chrome cover, CTS pots, Switchcraft jack (tone control and jack in proper locations), Gibson TRC (piece of tape over BaCH logo), Schaller strap locks (front one behind heck heel), and speed knobs (waiting for chrome caps). I also have a Hipshot D-tuner on order. I'll be leaving the other three tuners for now. Now if I could get Scott to do one of those fine pickguards for me....
I used the BaCH at rehearsal last night, and I have to say again... I am blown away by this bass. I believe this is going to be my new #1. Sounds great, feels great, looks great! If I could get another in Inverness green, I'd buy it.
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2085/bachbirdcaseclosed.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bachbirdcaseclosed.jpg)
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8350/bachbirdcaseempty.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bachbirdcaseempty.jpg)
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/204/bachbirdcaseopen.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bachbirdcaseopen.jpg)
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Nice case & bass. I had a friend who made flight cases out of laminated plywood and they had to weight 60 pounds!!!
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Nice case & bass. I had a friend who made flight cases out of laminated plywood and they had to weight 60 pounds!!!
I made a couple in my day. My road crew HATED the one I did for my old Precision, but the day the truck ran over the case, it was worth it. A couple of later ones I did for friends were thinner and lighter. 3/4" plywood was a little bit of overkill. :o
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I made a couple in my day. My road crew HATED the one I did for my old Precision, but the day the truck ran over the case, it was worth it. A couple of later ones I did for friends were thinner and lighter. 3/4" plywood was a little bit of overkill. :o
Yowza! We use 3/8'' Baltic birch with Wilsonart laminate for most of our stuff. This case would be 55 pounds with the birch.
http://www.mtcases.com (http://www.mtcases.com)
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Its hard to beat the pain of carrying a Fender Rhodes around.
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Nice case & bass is right! I was planning on painting mine Inverness green but a from all I have read on the quality of the Bach finish etc ,Ill prob leave her B.
Im going to investigate making a case. Baltic birch is the way I may go. There is a light MDF but Im not sure about the weight of that .(UGH). I do have an old gibby explorer case that Ill look to convert. (I think I measured it for GOT at one point for a Tbird)
I have not heard from Roman since I sent wire. I too was only able to get reply from him through another email address I fortunately had forwarded to my main email. I also sent a copy of my wire to him.
GOT, a pg with a gift may be in my future. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Awww..........This case is SO pretty..........I wanna have sex with it! :gay:
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8350/bachbirdcaseempty.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bachbirdcaseempty.jpg)
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Ewwww!Sticky black-poly fur! :o
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Awww..........This case is SO pretty..........I wanna have sex with it! :gay:
It IS pretty plush! The official industry term is "panda fur". But rest assured, no pandas were harmed in the making of this case.
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Tom, When i get some cash...I may just take you up on a case or two for my 2 '65 birds. We still have to hook up so you can try my NR 8 string and I try your Rick 8, plus...I'm building a NR Korina Thunderbird II 8 string.
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Still no word from Roman, My email is a roadrunner acout didn't someone say they had trouble with that ?
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Still no word from Roman, My email is a roadrunner acout didn't someone say they had trouble with that ?
It'd take less than five minutes to set up a Hotmail account at MSN. I use hotmail for any web based email I do and had no problem receiving Roman's emails (or sending them email to him). It may be worth doing a temporary account, Scott...
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I can't remember if someone had a problem getting through with Roadrunner.
George is right, though. You ought to have one or more web-based email accounts anyway, at least as a backup.
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yeah I'll do that today, wait a sec. I have a yahoo email I never use.
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I had the issues with roadrunner. I did get the original email from Roman back in January about them shipping in March, but then I never heard back. I finally (and wisely) decided to send him an email from my AOL account and got the invoice.
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And if anyone wants one, I can send an invite to open a Gmail account.
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Hi Roman. I've also sent you several e-mails over the past few weeks and I have never received a reply or an invoice. I'm going to send you an e-mail now from a couple of my different e-mail addresses. Please please please keep an eye out for my e-mails!
Thank you,
Eric
All is not lost! I got my invoice for a Sonic Blue Bachbird and sent the wire transfer this morning...keeping my fingers croseed it'll get there (I haven't had much luck with international bank transactions lately).
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I got my tracking info from Roman this morning! Soon Texas will have a Black Bird! :toast:
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Roman I hope you have gotten my wire transfer & copy I sent . The silence is un-nerving.
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I sent my wire on Thursday just after 12 noon on June 4th and got my tracking number today around 8 a.m.
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I sent my wire on Thursday just after 12 noon on June 4th and got my tracking number today around 8 a.m.
Figure delivery next Friday. Once it gets here, it seems that it will take about 3 days to clear customs.
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The great thing is I work at the post office where it will arrive! :mrgreen:
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BTW,nice to see the AMX again.M :mrgreen:
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A favor...could one of you guys measure the OAL of the bach bass. Even better measure the dimensions of the case you are using(Mark). Im gonna build one. :mrgreen:
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I measured mine some time ago. I figure the case will have to have an interior length of 50".
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I may actually get off a little easy - the Scroll bass comes in a couple weeks, and there's a gig bag coming with it. My guess is that the gig bag will easily accomodate the BaCHBird. I just can't take both at the same time.
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I'll re-post these shots, this is a case for a '76 'Bird, I took the shaped pink fabric covered foam piece out and repositioned the neck support it's OAW is 15 1/2" x 52" OAL, that's to the outside edges.
The bass fits nicely, beats having to buy a new case, I'll do a little clean up on the inside of this one and replace one of the latches..............After I put some time and money in on the bass ;D
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2016.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2014.jpg)
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I'll repost my pics too. It's an Epiphone case for a Reverse Thunderbird.
I took the shaped polystyren part out and turned it upside down. Reshaped it a bit and then glued back the fur lining.
It's a snug fit.
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case2.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/emptycase.jpg)
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I bought Warwicks gigbag, called the rockbag, earlier on, to fit my Embassies. It holds the Bach perfect! Lots of extra space in there too. Cost me like $115.00.
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I'm liking the white ones best ATM.
I wish BaCH would do a Run of Cherry.
(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/1801512/p6_uprr5dzrm_ss.jpg)
(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/1801512/p1_uefqheb51_ss.jpg)
(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/1801512/p2_ugjheho2v_ss.jpg)
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Sorry folks! The price tag on the Warwick bag was more in the $50.00 range, now that I've checked. So, what are you gonna do with the extra money that will be left over from my former information? Yeah, you're on the right track! Would do that myself!
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Thanx guys! I heard from Roman. I think comcast does not receive email from europe (or parts there of) very well. Gmail worked but I have to have mail foreward to my regular email.
So if you are having trouble contacting Roman, try a common email acct (hotmail,yahoo,gmail etc) nd link it back to your regular email acct. I use a mioddle name or initial so I can tell wherew it came . you do have to send mail from that other acct though.
My bass is in country BTW :mrgreen:
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Good deal! What color did you get? I'm thinking most of the latest batch were black ones, which is my favorite color. Mine left Czech Republic today so hopefully will arrive in the US soon.
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Thanx guys! I heard from Roman. I think comcast does not receive email from europe (or parts there of) very well. Gmail worked but I have to have mail foreward to my regular email.
So if you are having trouble contacting Roman, try a common email acct (hotmail,yahoo,gmail etc) nd link it back to your regular email acct. I use a mioddle name or initial so I can tell wherew it came . you do have to send mail from that other acct though.
My bass is in country BTW :mrgreen:
Not to derail this, but in case you're not aware, you can configure Gmail to retrieve your POP email account.
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Me thinx Black. It dont matter though! :mrgreen:
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There is a box at the USPO for me. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Got it! This is absolutely beautiful!! Ive never played an orig. I like the design .Why they only made for a few year is strange(unless it was a law suit) this thing has some nadz!!!Nice finish etc. I have to do some adjusting & check intonation. That red one that shows the grain is a true looker
Thanx to Basvarken, Uwe & all that helped with this project. Worth the wait :mrgreen: ;D :mrgreen:
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I had nothing to do with it!
The Non Revs were a reaction to Fender's lawsuit threat (it was never heard in court), not the reason Leo and his litigators took issue with the Rev design (offset waistline etc). At that point Ted McCarthy was already disappointed with the performance of the original T- and Firebird line, aimed at the Stratocaster and Jazz Bass market, it had nothing of the anticipated sales (it was marketed as the adult guitar and bass line for mature jazz players), yet was more costly to make due to the neck thru construction which ironically Gibson did not mark as something special. So Ted M. Wanted a change anyway and the Fender threat was only an incentive to finally do something. Had the original T- and Firebirds been good sellersn, Gibson would have put up a fight as it did not believe that the arguments from "these Californian upstarts" had any merit.
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Thanx Uwe,I figured it had to have a back ground like that. Nice to have one in hand finally.M
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Congrats Mike,
you were one of the first on the list. But one of the last on that list to finally get his BaCHbird.
Hope it lives up to the anticipation ;)
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I had nothing to do with it!
The Non Revs were a reaction to Fender's lawsuit threat (it was never heard in court)
That always strikes me as funny since the non-revs looked so much more like Fenders than the original reverse style. :D
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There must be a dozen or more that have made it to the US by now.
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There must be a dozen or more that have made it to the US by now.
Head count!
2 came to me.
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One here ;D
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none here... and I'm not there... some say definitely not all there... ;D
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l'un :mrgreen:!
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One here.
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OldManC (with 2), gweimer, gearHed289, mojo hobo, Low End Theorist, Rikkimax, TBird1958, shadowcastaz, hollowbody, chromium, that's 11, maybe angrymatt has his by now, with Hornisse and eshears in progress. Have I missed anyone?
Add Nokturnal, that's 12 received for sure.
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Nokturnal has a black one ;D
Chromium has a white one 8)
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And as of today I have these parts pulled together.
That's a Lull Thunderbird pup ;D
Chromalicious.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2002.jpg)
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Chromium has a white one 8)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/trampoline.gif) (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/homer.gif)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/thunderbird/nrbird.jpg)
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I give up, I'm not going to read 69 pages to find out what a Bachbird is :bored:, what is it a non-reverse T-bird that Bach secretly played in one of his symphony's?
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And as of today I have these parts pulled together.
That's a Lull Thunderbird pup ;D
Chromalicious.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/trains2002.jpg)
THROW AWAY THAT CERAMIC CAPACITOR!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
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I give up, I'm not going to read 69 pages to find out what a Bachbird is :bored:, what is it a non-reverse T-bird that Bach secretly played in one of his symphony's?
Two years ago Rob found a company to make a darn near exact reproduction. It's finally here and costs around $400 including shipping, but it was a limited run, but who knows?
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OldManC (with 2), gweimer, gearHed289, mojo hobo, Low End Theorist, Rikkimax, TBird1958, shadowcastaz, hollowbody, chromium, that's 11, maybe angrymatt has his by now, with Hornisse and eshears in progress. Have I missed anyone?
Add Nokturnal, that's 12 received for sure.
Yup, mine was shipped yesterday to my USA address...
...and I'll be in London until at least next March! :sad:
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Mine arrived today! I opened it at work about 30 minutes ago and it is a beauty! Great job Roman and guys at Bach. Thanks again to all that made it happen.
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Mine arrived today! I opened it at work about 30 minutes ago and it is a beauty! Great job Roman and guys at Bach. Thanks again to all that made it happen.
Is it black like you thought?
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It is indeed a black one. I wonder how many Bach has left?
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I want one!
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Me too! :sad:
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that is most apealing
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I just got a invoice for a black one :) :) :) :) :) :) hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrong name and address on it though, a Scott from Oklahoma :sad: I just emailed Roman back, I hope I get a correct invoice soon !
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Nice rhythm in that piece, Scott. Guess it could be turned into a tune, in a Hoochie Coochie style:
I just got an invoice for a black one
wrong name and address on it, heck!
A Scott from Oklahoma
I just emailed Roman back
Refr:
I hope I get a correct invoice - soon, so I don't have to wait, to long!
Cause my black bird, now that I've found you... (and so on!)
Do we have any aspiring Leiber & Stollers here? Ho-hooo! Ho-hooo?
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I just got a invoice for a black one :) :) :) :) :) :) hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrong name and address on it though, a Scott from Oklahoma :sad: I just emailed Roman back, I hope I get a correct invoice soon !
Uh oh. That's "Bass VI" Scott. You'll want to make sure your orders don't get confused.
Although he probably won't object if you pay for his. :mrgreen:
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Yeah I figured it was another Scott :sad: Hope Roman still has one for me.
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I now have a invoice with my name on it in my hot little hands :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Good.
I let Bass VI Scott know too. Hopefully he can get his invoice straightened out.
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Good idea Dave, I won't act till I know he has a bass.
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You were both on the list, there should be basses for both of you.
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Good idea Dave, I won't act till I know he has a bass.
Another thing to remember is that BaCH will cancel your invoice if they don't hear from you in a timely manner. I'm also sure there's a bass for both of you. Don't pass yours up!
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There is a deadline on the invoice itself. Mine was June 1, but I did not hear from Roman until I saw his post here that they were going to cancel it. That is when I sent him an email from an alternate address. I sent payment on June 4 and got the bass on June 13. Fast turnaround! :mrgreen:
Be sure to send an email to Roman with your shipping address and phone number.
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@ Scott aka Bass VI
I think you should send BaCH an email -once again- to let them know you're a different Scott. And that you both want a BaCHbird.
Maybe if you're reading along Roman, you've figured it out by now? :P
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Rob & Roman, if I haven't said it, "Thanks".
This was a project that became a labor of love. I'm happy to have waited for the end result. It wasn't always easy and patient. I think I've chewed my fingernails off a few times, and I have this curious eye twitch...
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Dave,Scott (GOT) and all,
Sent Roman an email requesting an invoice, but didn't hear back. Will send him another and see if we can get it straightened out. Scott (GOT) if they have sent you an invoice with you correct info, I'd go ahead with the order, I would assume that they have a bass for both of us.
Dave, thanks for the heads up on this, I have'nt kept up with it ( other than the usually unanswered email to BaCH )
I'll keep you posted,
Scott (BassVI)
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Nice to see you're stilll alive Scott ;)
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If the invoice sent to Scott Dasson has all the correct information for Scott VI, maybe Scott D should just email him the invoice and let him take it from there?
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Mark,
Yea, I'm still mostly alive................................going well out Seattle way? Trying to reform a band that has been on "vacation" for over two years is a time consuming enterprise, I'll leave it at that ;D but hopefully some pretty good tunes will come of it.
Excellent suggestion George.........Mr. Dasson, could you forward me said email?
Hope everyone is doing well, I promise to try to keep up with thing here a little better,
Cheers,
Scott (B-VI)
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Done this AM, 6:00
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The non reverse has been the most popular of the rare Gibsons for a long long time, first in the Pit, from then on. It has to be the most requested basses to be re-issued here and previously.
Rob you should do a poll.
A couple of months ago I saw this one on eBay, thought about it for a couple of hours, went back to bid on it and it was gone. It's a '90s Epiphone NR reissue. I'm still kicking myself for not hitting it faster.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/937e_1.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BNFmRGgBmkKGrHgoOKiwEjlLmVWD3BJn4ig.jpg)
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Heh, I emailed Roman this morning who emailed me immediately. I can still get a BaCHbird as long as it's black or blue, so I've signed on for a black one. :)
Damn, I've emailed him twice in the last 2 weeks with no response. I would prefer a white one but I guess I could settle for the blue. ;D
Might try again from my gmail account
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Thanks Again GOT,
Got the invoice, now to payment. I'll let you (that would be the collective) know when it arrives.
Thanks Again Mr. Dasson
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And of course,
Mucho Thanks to Rob and Roman!
I'm sending another e-mail to Roman/BaCH regarding my invoice, as it's at least a month old, just to make sure it (a black one) is still available.
Roman if you're still checking in......this would be from Scott in Oklahoma
Woooo Hooooo! another Black bass, I think this will be number 12 or 13.......I'm actually releived it won't be a white one........or blue (I hope ;D)
Cheers!
Scott (B...one more than 5)
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There are several Fenderbirds worldwide. It is a legendary design made famous by John Entwistle.
I have never seen a long scale 59 style EBO with Tbird bridge/tailstop and Tbird pickup.
I think I saw a video of a Lynyrd Skynryd live performance and it looked to me like Leon Wilkeson had a NR Fenderbird. This was a while back and it took me a while to figure out what the hell it was.
Roman emailed me this morning and told me I'd get an invoice today. I'm using earthlink and when I first emailed him I put my address in the body of the email as well and he's had no problems emailing back.
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A couple of months ago I saw this one on eBay, thought about it for a couple of hours, went back to bid on it and it was gone. It's a '90s Epiphone NR reissue. I'm still kicking myself for not hitting it faster.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/937e_1.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BNFmRGgBmkKGrHgoOKiwEjlLmVWD3BJn4ig.jpg)
I've had a seafoam green one of those sitting in my closet for about 5 years now.
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I think they are pretty cool. And uh, er, why has it been sitting in your closet?
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because it's gay?
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Like this: :gay: ?
I'll bet it looks cool in seafoam green!
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Okay, Rob has a new thread and poll here: http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2506.0
Let's post any more speculation and suggestions about future BaCH projects there, not in this thread.
I'll move some posts over there.
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Thanx Dave.
Somehow I have a feeling that thread is going to be the second longest in the Outpost... ;)
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I've tried emailing Roman at least 4 times via different methods including Gmail. I either get this lovely message in reply or no reply,
Mail Delivery Subsystem to me
show details 12:18 AM (7 hours ago)
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
romanch@bachmusik.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 553 553 sorry, this recipient is not in my validrcptto list (#5.7.1) (state 14).
I guess I will setup a hotmail account :rolleyes: and try that.
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Bret, try bachmusik@bachmusik.com
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Hey, guys. Update on a possible gig bag. I talked with Bruce Johnson (my Scroll Bass arrives next week!), and he's using the RoadRunner Deluxe bags that Guitar Center sells. These might do the trick for the BaCHbird, and they come in under $50.
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I've tried emailing Roman at least 4 times via different methods including Gmail. I either get this lovely message in reply or no reply,
Mail Delivery Subsystem to me
show details 12:18 AM (7 hours ago)
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
romanch@bachmusik.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 553 553 sorry, this recipient is not in my validrcptto list (#5.7.1) (state 14).
I guess I will setup a hotmail account :rolleyes: and try that.
Strange, I emailed him this week for the first time (using Earthlink), and several emails have gone back and forth and an invoice was waiting in my inbox first thing this morning. Roman has emailed me from bachmusik@bachmusik.com as Dave mentioned.
Good luck!
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I plan on going to the bank to pay today, just exactly what kind of transfer do I need to do ?
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I have some thoughts about these now that my bass is soon to be here. I wanted a white one but it looks like I am getting a black one which was my second choice, I think a black one will look cool as anything onstage ! By all accounts these sound like great basses for the $. I have been playing NRs as my main axe since '77 so I am anxoius to see how these stack up. The NRs were built just to put something on the market and use up parts after Fender complained that the original Firebird/Thunderbird shape infringed on their offset waist design. They were designed and manufactured quickly (who knew the electric guitar fad would last so long ?), they are not Gibsons best work. It is a happy accident that they play and sound so good. I expect the Bach to at least equal the build quality of my 60's NRs if not surpass them. I have several NRs at the moment and I can't wait to A/B the two basses. I am still stunned by the price, I can only imagine what Gibson would charge. I hope this project is a success for Roman, I have often looked at Bachs other basses and liked what I saw. The mahogany Tele bass with the maple neck and the light blue Telebass with the mudbucker,rosewoodboard and blockinlay comes to mind. By everyones reports I have no doubt that I will be impressed with my bass and I am already planning on buying another Bach Bird. So Rob and Roman Thanks for getting this done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Scott, I don't know if you've already gone to the bank, but if you take a printout of the invoice the bank should be able to get everything they need off of it. Just tell them you need to do an international wire transfer. The guy who did mine had never done one (he was new), and had a few questions for his supervisor, but the software he was using walked him through most of the process. All the names and numbers the bank needs are on the invoice. I think I stressed that this was going to the Czech Republic. Other than that, they didn't need anything from me. Also, if you can, scan a copy of your receipt from the bank (which should be a copy of what they did) and email that to Roman. If you can't, at least email him to tell him you did the wire (that's what I did). And good luck! I'm sure you'll love the bass.
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Also make sure that the transfer is sent in Euros.
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Also make sure that the transfer is sent in Euros.
Oops, that's the most important thing!
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Yes, B&CH only accepts stable currencies.
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Har har! That's ok, the dollar will snap back some time shortly after the 2010 elections...
SNAP!
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What a PITA I was at our bank for over a hour. They said they needed Romans bank address and account # (which I presumed was on the invoice) They said they are manuely going to try and put it through. I can't believe how hard this was. Roman please take paypal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You yanks and your old-fashioned payment by cheque culture crack me up. Wire transfers seem to make you grow grey hairs. :mrgreen:
B&CH's account details are (as shown on my invoice in the lefthand upper corner):
B&CH Music, s.r.o.
Velkomoravska 87
695 78 Hodonin
Czech Republic
Citibank SWIFT: CITICZPX
IBAN CZ82 2600 0000 0089 0004 1154
Tel/fax + 420 518 344 430
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It took me a little time at the bank too, in fact the branch manager helped me - he ended up calling the bank's help telephone # to actually process the transaction. He said the money transfers as dollars to Frankfurt (Our Gruppenfuhrer's hometown) and gets converted to Euros there and passes on to the Czech Republic. I also did my wire transfer on a Friday and it was Wednesday the following week before I had an email from Roman that my bass was shipping - so be patient ;)
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You yanks and your old-fashioned payment by cheque culture crack me up. Wire transfers seem to make you grow grey hairs. :mrgreen:
B&CH's account details are (as shown on my invoice in the lefthand upper corner):
B&CH Music, s.r.o.
Velkomoravska 87
695 78 Hodonin
Czech Republic
Citibank SWIFT: CITICZPX
IBAN CZ82 2600 0000 0089 0004 1154
Tel/fax + 420 518 344 430
Yep mine reads the same, didn't seem to be enough info for them
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My wire transfer went off without a hitch and the bass shipped yesterday!
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I cant get a response anyway I try :(
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Don't give up hope yet.
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I cant get a response anyway I try :(
Keep trying ! I was begining to despair maybe call Roman.
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Has any of you guys seen Krishna (Boston Guitar Repair/ Guitar Garage) around lately?
Krishna has been a major help for me/us with the measurements and detailed pictures.
I would hate to hear that BaCH forgot about him.
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I know there is a post in the Fender forum about a Tele bass he restored, maybe the owner can get a hold of him
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Man, Roman has to get a better ISP. Their White list / Black list sucks big time.
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Krishna is registered here as bostonguitarrepair, you can always PM him and see if he's heard from Roman.
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I sent him an e-mail to see how he's doing and to hear if he's received his BaCHbird yet.
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Well.....................no word back from Roman (again)...............last message from him was that my order had been cancelled (the one that went to Scott (GOT) but he would get back with me on Friday with (hopefully) a new invoice.
I know his e-mails get back to me, whether he replies as Roman@BaCH or BaChMusic@Bachmusic, they don't even get hung up in my spamfilter. I'll shoot him another message on Monday if I don't hear from him. After reading how much everyone seem to like this bass I'm looking forward to getting mine.
Well, I'll keep everyone posted.
Cheers,
Scott ( not that Scott, the other Scott ) .................now the real funny bit is I work with.....yet another Scott.......it's like an Abbot & Costello routine at work sometimes ;D
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GREAT SCOTT...! :mrgreen:
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As in:
(http://img.groundspeak.com/cache/d263ce4b-909e-4ce9-bb35-900c9c3c182e.jpg)
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Or, as in:
(http://www.horrorstew.com/images/EddiesTeddy.jpg)
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I got a email from Roman..........................my bass shipped today ! I wonder how long it will take to get here?
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Looks like it may be an extra prezzie on your big day... ;D
ps cdrom on route yesterday...
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Thanks Ken !
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Got a reply from Roman also, mines ready too!
Now to the bank for the pesky conversion of $ to Euros.......................will try to get that sorted out this week, after two years, I expect a few more days won't hurt......much!
Full report when I have it in my hands,
Cheers All!
Scott ( just Scott )
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Yay!
Glad you're both getting your basses
;D
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Yay!
Glad you're both getting your basses
;D
Me to ! Scott what color did you get ?
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Yay!
Glad you're both getting your basses
;D
I can't wait to see your bass when it is done Mark. Keep us posted!
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Got a reply from Roman also, mines ready too!
Now to the bank for the pesky conversion of $ to Euros.......................will try to get that sorted out this week, after two years, I expect a few more days won't hurt......much!
Full report when I have it in my hands,
Cheers All!
Scott ( just Scott )
If I were you, I'd make it a point to get it done ASAP. You don't want to have that invoice cancelled.
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I can't wait to see your bass when it is done Mark. Keep us posted!
I have the new pick up installed and have rewired the bass with CTS 500K pots as of today, I've been taking pics as I go along. I also sent the PG away along with Rob's drawing of the original to have a new custom one made ;D
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If I were you, I'd make it a point to get it done ASAP. You don't want to have that invoice cancelled.
Absolutely. It will take a few days to process, and I have to think that the due date is on the receiving side, not the sending side. I went to the bank a couple hours after receiving the invoice. In that couple hours, the exchange rate had changed enough that my cost in US dollars actually went up $12.
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Me to ! Scott what color did you get ?
BLACK!
Originally I wanted the first-run white ( not a single white bass or guitar in the collection! ) but why mess up tradition ( for me anyway ) I haven't played anything but black onstage in about 10 years. I'm going Marks' route ( with the bass not wardrobe ) I've got Dr B's Tailpiece, a chrome TB plus, a set of reverse wind re-issue tuners and a set of NOS bridge and pickup covers. I'm psyched.
Scott ( GOT ) I think we all would be interested in a side by side comparo with a "reall" NR, IIRC you've got one or two.
Right-o Dave, Thursday is my day off, so I'll be at the bank in the morning. I've sent an e-mail to Roman also and I'll send another when I get the transfer done. We'll see how the US $ is fairing against the Euro!
S.
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Mine shipped last Friday and showed up yesterday!
I'm thinking I might change out the pickguard for a black one with white edge and add Ripper-type knobs on it.
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Five days! I'm impressed.
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So am I, Dave! I emailed him last Monday or Tuesday for the first time, went back and forth a couple of times over remaining colors, decided on black, got invoiced, wired the money, it shipped Friday and the bass was on my porch at 9am yesterday morning! :)
It's, uh, slightly prone to neck dive. Heh, a relocated pin is definitely in the picture for this week.
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"It's, uh, slightly prone to neck dive. Heh, a relocated pin is definitely in the picture for this week. "
You can't say I didn't tell you about the neck dive Denis..... ;)
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Haha, oh, you definitely warned me, Mark, and I completely believed you (and have saved the PMs for mounting the T-bird pins).
I'll post pics of it the bass this evening when I get home.
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"It's, uh, slightly prone to neck dive. Heh, a relocated pin is definitely in the picture for this week. "
You can't say I didn't tell you about the neck dive Denis..... ;)
A bass with out neck dive just dosen't feel right to me ;D
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Hate to say it...........
But I just "man up" to it, with my sissy girly arms ;)
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It's here. I had to pick it up at the post office and I was worried that it was broken in shipment as the box was angled mid section of the neck, I drove home bummed sure it was broken. To my relief the bass was in one piece when I opened it up :) OMG is all I can say, what a fantastic job Roman and Bach have done. I felt instantly at home on this bass, it just feels right. Of course I'd say that NRs being my bass of choice for so many years. My first thought is if you are looking for a non reverse Thunderbird don't waste your $ on a vintage Gibson. I am so impressed with the neck, beautiful slab of rosewood, the frets are dressed very nicely, the profile feels right and man is it straight ! One thing I notice right off the bat is The bridge is high but the action is low, it looks to me like the neck is set at a greater angle than a original NR and the headstock angle is less, a good move, headstock snap should be less of a problem than with a original. Even unplugged the bass sounds like a NR, Imho I believe shape and construction of a bass have a profound influence on it's sound. It is a bit heavier than my NRs, maybe do to finish or the type of mahogany used. My plans for this puppy ? I am going to leave the Artech pup, so far it sounds great through my little practice amp; not as blurry a little more defined than a vintage TB but it does seem to have that sparkle and shimmer. Bottom Line is these are pro caliber basses. I am going to order more Bach NR Thunderbirds and leave their name on the headstock.
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Hate to say it...........
But I just "man up" to it, with my sissy girly arms ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/gartonscot2a_5.jpg)
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It's here. I had to pick it up at the post office and I was worried that it was broken in shipment as the box was angled mid section of the neck, I drove home bummed sure it was broken. To my relief the bass was in one piece when I opened it up :) OMG is all I can say, what a fantastic job Roman and Bach have done. I felt instantly at home on this bass, it just feels right. Of course I'd say that NRs being my bass of choice for so many years. My first thought is if you are looking for a non reverse Thunderbird don't waste your $ on a vintage Gibson. I am so impressed with the neck, beautiful slab of rosewood, the frets are dressed very nicely, the profile feels right and man is it straight !
+1 on all of that for me! Now let's get those pickguards going! ;)
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They seem to be great right out of the box. Mine was nearly in tune when I opened the box. Took only 6 days to get it once Roman shipped it.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/33tjgoy.jpg)
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They seem to be great right out of the box. Mine was nearly in tune when I opened the box. Took only 6 days to get it once Roman shipped it.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/33tjgoy.jpg)
All Hail Roman !
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My box was damaged too, about 2/3 up where the neck should be, but it was perfect when I opened it up.
Here's mine! The logo is only in one place too. :) All hail Roman, indeed!
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/DSC05057a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/DSC05058a.jpg)
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Congratulations gentlemen!
Thank you for the short but detailed review Scott.
I am happy to see that a connaisseur like you really digs it.
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Congratulations gentlemen!
Thank you for the short but detailed review Scott.
I am happy to see that a connaisseur like you really digs it.
Rob thank you for getting this done, with out your perseverance it never would have happened! You really have no idea how happy I am with this bass. As soon as I can I am going to buy a few more for stage. I retired my favorite NR about a year ago, I would be devestated if something happened to it at a gig. I slowly weaned myself off it, it was really hard to do. The Bach is a perfect replacement for it ! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I think I'll put a model G in one just for fun ! I'll post pics soon.
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"It is a bit heavier than my NRs, maybe due to finish or the type of mahogany used."
Scott can now apply for the Guiness Book of World Records as the only person on earth who registers the weight difference between a poly and a nitro layer. :mrgreen:
"My plans for this puppy ? I am going to leave the Artech pup, so far it sounds great through my little practice amp; not as blurry a little more defined than a vintage TB but it does seem to have that sparkle and shimmer."
My sentiment exactly. The look of the Arctec is cheapish, but it has a sound of its own, I have nothing quite like it among all my other basses.
The B&CH basses would be great instruments if they cost three-times as much. For the money, they are simply mindblowing.
I don't think they really feel like an original Non Rev because their necks are so thin (my only worry: how will they stand up in ten years time?) and all my vintage bass playing has made me grow accustomed to and appreciate thick necks (which is why I think an original Non Rev has also a bit more fundamental), but I'm sure most people/senior citizens here prefer the thinner neck.
Uwe
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On the NRs I have had over the years the neck profiles have varied widely. My '69 has a very thick neck while my since sold near mint '67 had a pencil thin neck. The Bach seems to fall somewhere in the middle.
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... but I'm sure most people/senior citizens here prefer the thinner neck.
No way. The thicker neck is better for thrashing you young whippersnappers.
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Administrator, tell us, does finish influence weight?
And, yes, thin necks are for girls.
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Administrator, tell us, does finish influence weight?
And, yes, thin necks are for girls.
The total weight of the dried solids in any guitar finish would be only a few ounces, even if put on thick and not sanded.
If you took two basses with identical weight, brushed ten thick coats of paint on one and sprayed one thin coat of nitro on the other, you might find 3 or 4 ounces difference.
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Yet Scott feels the difference! (crawling back under stone hurriedly in flight of the wrath of the mighty sawman ...)
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He feels the difference from something, just probably not the finish.
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It could be the finish or type of wood, the finish is thick. So her she is no pics no bass. First the box that scared me so. :o(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/BachNRThunderbird001.jpg) I have to get some longer wire to swap the tone and output jack.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/BachNRThunderbird001-1.jpg)
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What a beautiful bass! I never liked the the look of the few black NRs I saw over the years, but these are incredible. I don't know what changed, but I really like these. I hope they make more because I want a black one now!
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I want a whole flock of these I don't care what color !
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And, yes, thin necks are for girls.
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!
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I gotta say that the box I got was also pretty concave when it showed up, but the contents were just fine.
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Same here.....Box bad,...bad!!!! Bass good ,... real Goood!
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Same here.....Box bad,...bad!!!! Bass good ,... real Goood!
x2! My box looked just like that!
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It's the "custom made warped box from Czechia"®
It protects that weird oversized tilted headstock.
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:thumbsup: Aces!
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Never having the pleasure to see an orig in person,I was taken back by the size of the headstock on The BaCH. Like my former Ripper it fits me well. I gotta swap out and move the pots,strap button etc.
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The NR headstock is like the tail fin of a '59 Caddy ! The Bach is just like the Gibson and I love it for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep, my box looked similarly reliable!
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I gigged it this past Sat. Holy Crap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pics and stories to tell coming soon !
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Man, I hope mine gets here!
Emailed Roman, Transferred money Thursday ( although bank said it might not go out til Friday ), verified transfer Friday, More emails....unanswered.....verified receipt of money ( in Euros ) Monday, more unanswered emails.......I hope it's a Friday/Monday thing in the Czech Republic, you know " we don't get anything done on Friday 'cause it's Friday and we have to play catch-up on Monday 'cause we didn't get anything done on Friday " it works that way at my job sometimes ;).
Come on Roman!
Looks good GOT!
Scott
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Hang in there, you got about a week............ ;)
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Hang in there, you got about a week............ ;)
Yup. Patience is a virtue.
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After I sent the wire I didn't hear anything until I found the package on my doorstep. If they got the money, you'll get your bass, I'm sure.
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After I sent the wire I didn't hear anything until I found the package on my doorstep. If they got the money, you'll get your bass, I'm sure.
Well......someones got my money! :mrgreen:
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Well......someones got my money! :mrgreen:
At least it went towards a bass, could'a been Hookers and Coke ;)
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At least it went towards a bass, could'a been Hookers and Coke ;)
Win, Win, either way. :mrgreen:
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My Bluebird showed up at my USA address a few days ago! 8) If I'm lucky, I might actually get to open the box around March 2010. :sad: Meanwhile, I'll just keep track of all the mods and gig reports you guys are doing and wait...and wait...and wait...
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Geez Eric, I don't know what to say. Congrats or I'm sorry.
It must be really frustrating to know your BaCHbird is there, but you cannot touch it...yet
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Your item left PRAHA 120, CZECH REPUBLIC on June 30, 2009
Woo Hoo!
Hookers? maybe.....Coke? I prefer Mt. Dew.............oh that coke..............
I'll keep ya' posted.
S.
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My Bluebird showed up at my USA address a few days ago! 8) If I'm lucky, I might actually get to open the box around March 2010. :sad: Meanwhile, I'll just keep track of all the mods and gig reports you guys are doing and wait...and wait...and wait...
.....now where was that google map to eshears place........Hmmmm....
Just kiddin . You WILL BE impressed!!! I know its hard but trust me ,you will love this bass.
The Black PG looks AWESOME on the Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
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These are amazing basses for the money. I still can't believe I have one! Does anyone know how many of the original 50 people on the original list have gotten one?
Bass VI, mine took 6 days to arrive once it left Czech Republic.
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I'm interested in seeing a head count too
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At least it went towards a bass, could'a been Hookers and Coke ;)
All three and you'd be like Entwistle!
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Your item left PRAHA 120, CZECH REPUBLIC on June 30, 2009
Woo Hoo!
Hookers? maybe.....Coke? I prefer Mt. Dew.............oh that coke..............
I'll keep ya' posted.
S.
Mmmm, how'd that song go? "silver spoon.........greasy whore and rollin' dance floor" ;D
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All three and you'd be like Entwistle!
Ummmmm! That's temting.............wait no it isn't!
:mrgreen:
These are amazing basses for the money. I still can't believe I have one! Does anyone know how many of the original 50 people on the original list have gotten one?
Bass VI, mine took 6 days to arrive once it left Czech Republic.
I'd be interested finding that out also, on Robs' original e-mail list my name was #10, but I was pretty late to the party in receiving mine ( snafu with criss-crossed emails ) actually it's worked out better for me getting a black one, a color not available in the first run.
Let you guys know when it arrives,
S.
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I'm not sure which names on the list haven't received their BaCHbird yet.
Not all candidates are from the Outpost. Some don't even frequent any of the boards that I recruted from.
Originally there were 59 basses ordered. Some names dropped out along the way. And some names were added, once the first basses were showing up.
As far as I know BaCH only made 50 BaCHbirds (20 in the first run and 30 in the second)
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Geez Eric, I don't know what to say. Congrats or I'm sorry.
It must be really frustrating to know your BaCHbird is there, but you cannot touch it...yet
Congratusorry? Sorryatations?
Yes, very frustrating. They say that patience is a virtue, but I say "screw that" (I've never been a very virtuous person)!
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I'm not sure which names on the list haven't received their BaCHbird yet.
Not all candidates are from the Outpost. Some don't even frequent any of the boards that I recruted from.
Originally there were 59 basses ordered. Some names dropped out along the way. And some names were added, once the first basses were showing up.
As far as I know BaCH only made 50 BaCHbirds (20 in the first run and 30 in the second)
I was wondering how many were made. Are they serial numbered? I saw a comment about early thick-bodied ones and later thin-bodied ones, but are the thick ones the first 20?
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Jeez how hard can it be:
20 first run (thick body white finish)
30 second run (thinner body, 10 white, 10 black 10 sonic blue)
None were numbered
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Well, that's easy enough!
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Chill Rob... 8)
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"Your item was processed through and left our OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73125 facility on July 2, 2009. The item is currently in transit to the destination. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later."
Well I can only hope this means Mr. Postman will have a package for me tomorrow, for once I'm looking forward to going to work. That's not entirely correct for the most part I don't mind going to work, except when there is to much work involved, man I'm still a slacker!
Let you know tomorrow!
S.
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And...It's Here!
Woo----Hoo!
Ok, gotta go, I'm already doing some mods ( not that it needs any ) let's say I'm personalizing it. Pics soon.
And Thanks Rob!
S.
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I may possibly be the only person with one that has left it bone stock. :)
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I will leave it stock too, except of the addition of some good pots (cts) jack (crl) and cap (.1 mallory 150 film).
But its too hot here in greece to do solderwork, damn.
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I may possibly be the only person with one that has left it bone stock. :)
Mine is still just as it came out of the box. I plan on putting my old Gibson pickup in it, but other than that, I love it just as it is.
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I plan on putting my old Gibson pickup in it, but other than that, I love it just as it is.
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"
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Mine is still stock. Only thing I plan on changing is the pots first, then the pickguard. After that I will probably leave it alone.
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"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Kids need to play, Dave.
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Mine are stock but will eventually get the treatment. I have one 60's pickup and will either cover the other or cover a TB plus and use it instead. I have a couple beautiful tail pieces that Bill had done, but I'll probably save Scott's bridges for later because the stock ones are great. Scott will be providing the pick guards though! New pots, jack, and cap should round it out just fine!
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Mine is already rewired with new pots and a Lull pickup............My first project. ;D
Custom PG in the works, I've been taking pics along the way.
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I'll probably get new pots and jack and reposition the pots. (and jack) May get one of those pickguards too! :mrgreen:
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I've toyed with the idea of sticking a mudbucker in mine right behind the neck (or close to it). Always wondered about a mudbird ... But I'm in no rush to do it.
I like the shape of the Bach pickguard better than the original. More organic to the shape of the body.
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Don't forget that my Peter Cook is technically a "mud-bird" now... sounds wonderful, but I don't have the speaker setup yet to run at full throttle, yet... :o
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I finally got a reply from Roman that said "We have no one in left . They are in our produce plan".
So it looks like I'm on the books for run #3. I did ask if he would do them in Cardinal red or Cherry. ;)
this is what happens when you get on the bus late I guess. :)
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I've toyed with the idea of sticking a mudbucker in mine right behind the neck (or close to it). Always wondered about a mudbird ... But I'm in no rush to do it.
Or maybe an extra Artec at the neck?
I like the shape of the Bach pickguard better than the original. More organic to the shape of the body.
I think it's a little bit too small.
Plus it is cut a bit to tight round the neck. It curls up a bit.
And for those who plan on converting it into a NR Tbird IV; the BaCH pickguard gets in the way of the second pickup. You'd need to cut away some of the pointy thing.
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I finally got a reply from Roman that said "We have no one in left . They are in our produce plan".
So it looks like I'm on the books for run #3. I did ask if he would do them in Cardinal red or Cherry. ;)
this is what happens when you get on the bus late I guess. :)
At least it looks like you're on the bus and there will be a next stop.
BaCH may have been concerned at first whether these would really sell. I'm glad they sold out, that lets them know that there is potential for small runs of offbeat models.
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We may have started a little cottage industry for them. Now....about that Embassy idea... :mrgreen:
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Maybe they will offer it with an integral counterweight on the lower strap pin. :mrgreen:
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At least it looks like you're on the bus and there will be a next stop.
I'm glad they sold out, ........
I guess it works out well for me really. Means I wont be under any pressure getting funds together. I'm a patient man. Whish that damn Melody Maker would hurry up and lob. ;)
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You'd need to cut away some of the pointy thing.
Is that a technical term Rob? ;)
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hardly Brett
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Maybe they will offer it with an integral counterweight on the lower strap pin. :mrgreen:
Something more creative please! A third strap button close to where the controls are situated from which a leather strap will go straight to your right leg ankle and fastened there. Voilà! Bass stays in place. And with some practice of your leg, you'll be able to do all kinds of fancy dance moves with the Embassy.
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Say, i've been too preoccupied with other things but How do i go about getting one of these basses??? And how much??? Thanks! Joe
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Joe, the two runs they made (50 total) are sold out. Keep an eye out for notice of the next run, probably within a few months. The cost of these with shipping to the US ran about $400, direct from BaCH to your door.
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I'll keep my eyes peeled also. Congrats to all involved for accomplishing this.
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Thanks Dave!
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To those of you who haven't been in on this, I just want to be clear that this is Rob's accomplishment, not mine.
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Dave, I've followed the thread for some time and meant to say it's cool that forum members got behind the idea and 50 were actually built.
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Yep, Rob is the man behind this. He made it all happen :toast:
This bass keeps getting better and better. I actually like the strings that came on it too, go figure.
Were they the same on all the B-Birds?
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Mine came with a D'addarrio hang tag on it. I haven't bothered to change strings yet. They seem to be working fine for now.
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Transformation pretty much complete! I want to thank Rob one more time for dealing with all this. Thank you! Thanks to Roman for making such a fine instrument. Thanks to Mark for inspiring me to peel the black plastic off a TB+ and stuff it into a chrome cover. And thanks to GOT for the PG.
From top to bottom:
Hipshot D-Tuner
Gibson TRC
extra strap button at neck heel
GOT pickguard
late model TB+ inside NOS 70s chrome cover
chrome cap bell knobs on CTS pots
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8485/bachbird.jpg)
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Looking good Tom!
What Type D-tuner did you use? Is that gold plated or is it the light? (I just realized I have two D-tuners in a shoebox waiting to be installed, I wonder which model fits the BaCH)
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D-Tuner aside, that is my idea of NR bliss. Well done Tom. If I can get a white one in the next run I will unless Roman decides to do Cherry.
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Thanks guys! I used one of their Ultralights. It's chrome, that's just the light. I was going to replace them all, but don't feel like spending the money right now. It's barely noticeable that it's an oddball.
Gonna be rockin the bird at the beach all day today!
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Thanks guys! I used one of their Ultralights. It's chrome, that's just the light. I was going to replace them all, but don't feel like spending the money right now. It's barely noticeable that it's an oddball.
Gonna be rockin the bird at the beach all day today!
Doh sorry about the missing hole. :-[ Your bird looks great ! Think I will sort out my controls today.
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Much better all sorted out ! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/BachNRControls002.jpg)
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I think you need to reposition the drill holes Scott. This looks just wrong.
Nobody's gonna ever see what's underneath the pickguard, so who cares about a few extra drill holes? :toast:
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LOL your right Rob ! I just couldn't bear to drill more hole in such a beautiful bass (take that as a compliment!). I am making up a new batch of guards and will do one for myself with the correct hole pattern.
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I am making up a new batch of guards and will do one for myself with the correct hole pattern.
Scott- please let us know when you have a batch ready. I'd love to get one of these 'guards from you.
Thanks!
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Mine require a bit of setup before I could play it (I don't know enough about bridge adjustments, etc yet), so once I got it back and relocated the front pin I could play it. It still has a lot of neck dive, I think due to the combination of large headstock and thinner body the last 30 had. It's taking some time to get used to the thinner, narrower neck too, but that's because I've been playing the Thunderbird and the Ripper a lot. The BaCHbird definitely sounds different from the other basses though!
It's longer than any of my other basses including the Epi T-birds. Can anyone suggest a case in which it will fit?
Thanks!
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Epi Explorer Bass case.
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Thanks, Uwe!
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I liked Marks solution. The Ep Explorer case is friggen huge. Better to find something smaller IMHO.
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Rob rebuilt an Epi T-bird case. I think his pic's are buried in this thread somewhere.
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Correct. Use the search option and look for "epiphone case thunderbird". You'll get my post plus pics.
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Tom has the ultimate "bird cage"
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What's this I see listed on the BaCH page under TH-1? :o
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH%20CELEK.jpg)
Has Roman been holding out on us? ;)
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And with a little more digging on the site I found it!
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101315/kufr-lp-th-1-bass-obdelnik-hnedy-krokodyl/ (http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p101315/kufr-lp-th-1-bass-obdelnik-hnedy-krokodyl/)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH%20INNER.jpg)
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There might be shipping size limits, and even if not, I wouldn't be surprised if the additional shipping cost would be more than the cost of the case.
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Yeah, I thought that it would probably be cost prohibitive to ship it to the USA but it shouldn't be too bad for overseas members.
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Haha, The BaCHboys are a riot.
Roman never told me they were going to do a case for the BaCHbird!
And boy is it cheap: 94 dollar!
You guys are probably right about the shipping problem. It is kinda oversized...
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when I bought my tele bass from them I also ordered a case . It came itn the case and it was not that bad if I remember correctly..
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It looks like the trick is to order a bass AND a case. I'd definitely want to check on any shipping restrictions to the States, but I'd be really tempted to pick up another BaCH model somtime. That Ric copy sure looks nice, and getting a mahogany Tele bass with the humbucker is also tempting. That would be a perfect spot to drop a Dark Star.
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Tom has the ultimate "bird cage"
Yeah, go figure - my cheapest bass is the one that got a custom flight case. :mrgreen:
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Yeah, go figure - my cheapest bass is the one that got a custom flight case. :mrgreen:
It's called yin/yang. You must maintain balance in the universe.
Just dropped my BaCHBird off today for the pickup transplant. I'm also checking the schematics to see how close it is to the original Gibson. No other cosmetic surgery planned.
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Hey guys, I've been asking around about getting an original Gibson style pickguard made and have been
given quotes of $45-$75. I realize that everyone is trying to find a way to make a dollar in this economy,
but I'm in the same boat, in regard to being pretty broke.
Is this what I should be paying or should I be looking somewhere else?
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Have you talked to GOT here?
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Hi! At last we had some gigs again, so I got to use the Bluebird. After the first gig, last Saturday, I realized the G string was a bit to quiet, so I raised the p-u a bit. After the second gig I realized I hadn't raised it enough, so last night was perfect! Really nice bass, though I think my Embassys necks is slightly easier to work, at least to my hands. But, in all, absolutely astonishing in matter of... well, everything! Lots of questions asked by other bass players to, who are mighty impressed when trying out the Bird! They look like a nesting box when I tell them the price!
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It looks like the trick is to order a bass AND a case. I'd definitely want to check on any shipping restrictions to the States, but I'd be really tempted to pick up another BaCH model somtime. That Ric copy sure looks nice, and getting a mahogany Tele bass with the humbucker is also tempting. That would be a perfect spot to drop a Dark Star.
That is exactly what I did.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/IMG_0003-7.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/IMG_0001-4.jpg)
:mrgreen:
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Seems as the Dark Stars got a very good rep, and according to what I've read about them, I guess I like the sound. But where to get them? And what's the price?
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You get them from Fred Hammon http://www.hammoneng.com/
They're $200 US each or $400 for a RW/RP set, and he may still have a waiting list.
The tone is not my cup of tea, but they do have a big following.
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Gotta admit that that is a beautiful looking bass... 8)
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Did all you BaCHbird owners get an email from Roman?
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I got it, but I don't understand it! It says
"Dear customer ,
We let make cases for TH-1 bass.
If You are interested in the case give us know.
Thank You for Your time .
BaCH Music , Czech"
What does "We let make cases" mean? That they are starting to make em and they will be available for purchase maybe?
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He means they had them made and you can buy 'em ;D
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They were Johannes on the spot with emails to me!
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I got that mail.
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I got no love and I bought two!
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Me neither. Maybe there is a problem shipping to America.
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I have to think that the total cost of shipping to the USA would put a case outrageously high. If I decide to try one of those other BaCH models, I'll buy the case with it. That would make the price good and offer additional protection in transit.
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It might also be that the size would prevent it being shipped at all, regardless of price. We don't know size limits from his location.
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Size was an issue with the shipping of the BaCHbird too, yes.
Initially the shipping cost was really low, but then it turned out the Bachbird is oversized. Eventually they did find a way to ship them, but not for a real low price.
So I guess the same goes for the case.
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Well, the BaCHBird is getting a real baptism of fire tonight. Of all my basses, this is the one that I seem to be able to play in my current condition. The Gibson pickup sounds really sweet at home so we'll see how the bass and I survive the night. I'll try to get pics.
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It's a good sign that you're able to play at all, I hope playing doesn't aggravate it.
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The BaCHBird was great! Nice and fat! I took a vicodin 10 before the first set. I found myself pulling out my best Jack Bruce technique (index finger only), and managed the first set OK. By the second set, night air and dew descended, essentially killing the PA. I outlasted Mother Nature. Pics later.
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Now that all participants have their BaCHbirds (I presume?) I thought it might be a nice idea to give you a little view in the kitchen.
When the project was already more than a half year underway BaCH finally sent me pictures of the (first) prototype.
The body shape looked good.
The color white was a bit of a surprise, since we had agreed on a clear coat finish.
But there was something about these pictures that worried me more: All pictures were cropped. None of them showed the headstock...
Here's why:
(http://www.superfloor.net/bachbirdprototype.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/bachbirdprototype2.jpg)
Now you see why the pics were cropped!
I have no idea where that Ibanez headstock idea came from? :o
So that first prototype was dismissed ;D
Few months later BaCH sent me some more interesting pictures.
This time it made me more confident that they were going to pull it off:
It featured their drawings for the bridge. Note how they must have been inspired by Scott's Badbird bridge! Their sketches show the expansion Scott designed in one drawing, and another one where they did it both ways.
In the end they simplified the bridge a little bit. But still, it works great!
(http://www.superfloor.net/bachbirdbridge4.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/bachbirdbridge3.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/bachbirdbridge2.jpg)
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Hey Rob, those pictures are great! Thanks for the insight into the build. Having seen a few other 'limited edition' basses built over the years, I'm really glad I was in on this one. I just wish I'd bought more!
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I wonder what became of the first prototype ? I think the headstock we got looks great ;) . To be imitated is the highest compliment right ? I spoke with Rob about this before. I came up with my first bridge in '83, there was no internet to show other players. With the advent of the internet and pc people saw my bridge and asked if I could make more, about as cool as it gets when someone likes your ideas. There are other cats making bridges, some like mine some not. At first I was a little ticked off but ya know what ? It is such a small pie pieces are not worth fighting over, I view all the other makers as brothers, compatriots. There is no real money in this just the love of bass and all things Thunderbird. The bridge on my Bach is a great piece of work I have no intention of swapping it out. Rob will Roman and the guys be doing another run of IIs ? Oh please say yes ! I have been meaning to sit down with my '69 and my Bach and do a side by side comparison but I have not had the chance, I will say the Bach gets more than a favorable evaluation !
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Interesting. And is this a new model from them? http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p100880/bach-bthb-bk/
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I saw that 5er on their site awhile back..............It's interesting.
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Well, here's me in my prime. I managed to find a position where I could rest my arm on top of of the bass and my hand was right at the strings. I only had about 1 1/2" of forward finger motion, so I cranked the volume a little.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/gweimer/G3_91.jpg)
Here's my finished bird. It endured the outside pretty well last night.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/gweimer/basses/BaCHBird_body_3.jpg)
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Interesting. And is this a new model from them? http://www.bachmusik.com/en/p100880/bach-bthb-bk/
The black 5-er was a regular on UK eBay through Bach's German outlet, maybe a year ago. It certainly predates the Bachbird, hence the headstock on the prototype.
They (the German seller) disappeared quite suddenly after accepting some pretty low Best Offers.
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I'm really glad BaCH changed the headstock to the large Gibsonesque-type on the NRs we bought. To me the Ibanez version looks okay, but would look better on an Explorer-type guitar or bass.
Those engineering drawings are cool. Thanks for sharing!
Well, here's me in my prime. I managed to find a position where I could rest my arm on top of of the bass and my hand was right at the strings. I only had about 1 1/2" of forward finger motion, so I cranked the volume a little.
Here's my finished bird. It endured the outside pretty well last night.
Glad you made it through the night!
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Hi there
Mark told me about this topic, and I've just registered.
Can I join you?
First,I apologize to you for my unskilled English, because I'm a Japanese.
A couple of weeks before, I got my sonic blue BaCHbird with croc hardcase directly from Czech.
Early in May,it showed "0,- CKZ" when my friend found it unexpectedly on the web ,
and he asked BaCH Music the schedule of second run by e-mail.
Early in July , he got a mail from them that said "You can buy,but we have last 4,so Pls be hurry!".
So we hurried to order black×1 ,white×1 ,blue×1 and 3 hardcases.
Geeeee! Shipping cost was 490EUR all of three…but there was no other way to send basses w/cases to our country.
It's O.Kay!!! We don't care !!!!!, but crying…
And now , two of my friends and I have owned beautiful babes! Yes, three BaCHbirds are here in Japan,far east .
Here is mine,sonic blue BaCHbirdie, just a little bit modified
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/0006a02.jpg)
She's so cute,isn't she?
And my NRs
L to R 80's Burny NR Firebird 3 ember red / '08 EDWARDS(ESP)NR 4 cardinal red / BaCHbirdie
and croc skinned hardcase behind them
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/DSC00430.jpg)
Sorry about photos're so terrible…
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Finally, an Axis Power friend! Your English is fine, I've been trying to teach these savages here some German over time, now they can learn some Japanese as well ...
Irasshaimase!!!
And (how did that Styx song go?) a hearty domo arigato for taking the trouble to join us.
I have a sonic blue B&CH too. Excellent bass. Nice Birdie collection you have there.
Uwe
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Welcome! Nice collection.
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Three beauties. :toast:
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Finally, an Axis Power friend! Your English is fine, I've been trying to teach these savages here some German over time, now they can learn some Japanese as well ...
Irasshaimase!!!
And (how did that Styx song go?) a hearty domo arigato for taking the trouble to join us.
I have a sonic blue B&CH too. Excellent bass. Nice Birdie collection you have there.
Uwe
Welcome
Love the Cardinal red bird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-_Ss4X8Ec
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Yay!
Thanks for joining in our fun here Sinji!
Enjoy our silliness please ;)
Love those Thunderbirds
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Welcome, Sinji! Great collection you have there.
I only have a few questions ;)
Where on Earth did you find the Edwards bass?! :o
Do you happen to know what woods are being used in it - mahogany, maple, etc...?
Is it a set-neck or bolt-on?
How does it play and sound compared to the BaCH?
and most importantly... is there a source in Japan from where these could be purchased? ;D
Sorry for all the questions- I've never seen a bass like that before! Very nice.
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IIRC Edwards is ESP's Japanese brand. And they make a lot of cool stuff that hardly ever makes it out of Japan.
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Welcome Sinji,
Nice birds!
Great to see the BaCHbird also made it to the Far East 8)
@ Angrymatt: do you already have yours?
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Sinji Welcome to our little place of madness ! Luv your birds ! NR Thunderbirds have been my main bass for years, The Bach is so close to the real deal it is amazing !
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Welcome Sinji! Nice collection of Birds!!
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welcome to the outpost!
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nice group of birds and welcome aboard!
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Welcome to the Outpost, Sinji. You have some beautiful guitars!
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@Basvarken: It's at my post office right now. I gotta bribe a coworker to go pick it up today.
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Thanx for all, and I'm very glad to join you!
To Uwe
Uwe-san Hajimemashite.(Nice meeting you, Mr.Uwe)
So where is an Italian? Sorry…just kidding.
To Stjofön Big
Hi! Thanx.
To Dave W
My precious.
To Barklessdog
How is your older sister in red ? I really love her.
Woo POLYSICS! I 've never known they covered STYX.
To Mark
I greatly appreciate you, Mark!!! Can you see my photos ?
To chromium
I found and got my Edwards(a brand of ESP) NR in Japan I'm living.
All mahogany made and set-neck .
Only 10 or so basses were made last year,
and I've never seen them anywhere even since I had got mine.
I heard Edwards has no plan to the next run...
Sorry for no information to you.
To angrymatt
Thanx for your explanation. Have you ever been to Japan?
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So where is an Italian? Sorry…just kidding.
Eccomi camerata..... (here i am, comrade)... well only half, the other half is Danish. ;D
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Is that a Warwick type bridge and tailpiece on the Edwards?
(like this one)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/dominantmusic/blue.jpg)
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To Basvarken
Whole Lotta Love from the Far East to all of the BaCHbirders!
To godofthunder
I love NR Thunderbirds ,too.
I really respect you for what you restored and customized.
How marvellous your works are!
To Nokturnal
To SKATE RAT
To ramone57
To OldManC
To ramone57
To OldManC
From Nokturnal to OldManC, thank you for your replies.
I'm so sorry that I cannot reply different way(sentence?) to each of you ,
becouse I have no more vocabulariy of English… I'm sorry…
I appreciate All six guys.
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Eccomi camerata..... (here i am, comrade)... well only half, the other half is Danish. ;D
Hi Iome .
Italy,Germany,Japan.....no! it's really the Axis...
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Is that a Warwick type bridge and tailpiece on the Edwards?
(like this one)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/dominantmusic/blue.jpg)
Yes. Here is a photo.
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/DSC00448.jpg)
I swapped an original birdge that was 3 pointed for this bridge and tailpiece made by Bacchus (Japanese brand).
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Bachus?
must be a coincidence ;D
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hehe thats amazing. Nice looking bridge too.
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TBirdMania1965, nah I've never been to Japan (I took one semester of Japanese language in college, but all I remember is how to ask for phone numbers). I've been trying to get stationed at Yakota AB for some time now, but it never seems to go through for me. I would love to live there for a while though.
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(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/DSC00430.jpg)
Welcome, indeed!
The Edwards is a beauty! Your collection looks like what I'd see at a NC State/Carolina football game!
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Edwards has some nerve! Or Japanese IP laws are comfortably lenient ... :mrgreen: I know that in the past they have made faithful RD versions too for Toshi (?), that Dir N Grey (spelling?) bassist.
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If anyone can convince Edwards to do another run of those NR Birds put me on the list. Cardinal Red or Pehlam Blue, Thank You!
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If anyone can convince Edwards to do another run of those NR Birds put me on the list. Cardinal Red or Pehlam Blue, Thank You!
I think at this point, we need a sunburst NR! Or at least I do, anyway (still chaffing over missing that burst Epi NR a second time).
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Sinji,
I did get to see the other pics of your Edwards, you should share a few more with the guys here - obviously there's some interest ;) Hopefully you got the shots of my (under reconstruction) BaCH.
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Welcome TBirdMania1965!
Hi Iome .
Italy,Germany,Japan.....no! it's really the Axis...
Sometimes I think we greeks should have said "yes" insted of "no" to the powers of the mighty Axis.
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I think you did better in the medium term with that other decision! :mrgreen:
Considering that even Turkey entered the war against the Axis Powers in the end, I fear they would have been adamant about Cyprus ... :mrgreen:
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Welcome TBirdMania1965!
Sometimes I think we greeks should have said "yes" insted of "no" to the powers of the mighty Axis.
It took a lot of balls to say no to the Germans. Saying "no" to the Italians on the other hand wasn't as much of a difficulty. ;D
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I think you did better in the medium term with that other decision! :mrgreen:
Considering that even Turkey entered the war against the Axis Powers in the end, I fear they would have been adamant about Cyprus ... :mrgreen:
I guess you've got some point there herr Global Modulator (that title sounds like "king of the earth or something).
It took a lot of balls to say no to the Germans. Saying "no" to the Italians on the other hand wasn't as much of a difficulty. ;D
LOL! I like italians, I've got some good friends on the North, but they are more interested on red wine than war, so I can't talk too much about that with them without boredom knocks em out.
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Perhaps more people and nations should be interested in red wine than war. We'd all be better off!
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Perhaps more people and nations should be interested in red wine than war. We'd all be better off!
You're on the right track here, but my liver prefers Gin ;D
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I'll take then wine, you can have the gin.
Hey, that sounds like a song title!
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You guys have no fun.
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You guys have no fun.
Feel free to attack the Germans if you're feeling bored! I wouldn't recommend it though. Some of them rile easily. ;D
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hmmm... "Cold Gin"...?
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You guys have no fun.
Pffttt.........Obviously you've never woken up in a strange bed with your undies around your ankles surrounded by half eaten fried chicken ;)
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Pffttt.........Obviously you've never woken up in a strange bed with you undies around your ankles surrounded by half eaten fried chicken ;)
I know what ur talkin bout, but sometimes too much fun stops being fun!
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:-\ Yeah right, Bennitos army wasn't very "organized", fortunatly the partisans was, even the mafia did something good back then.
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Once Esso stations in the US changed their name to Exxon, I decided it was safe to stop looking to see if any Italians were hanging around (from the joists).
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The saying goes that Germans love Italians, but have no respect for them, while it is the other way around with the Italians' view of the krauts.
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The saying goes that Germans love Italians, but have no respect for them, while it is the other way around with the Italians' view of the krauts.
Well the English and French dislike almost everyone, including each other, so I suppose all alliances have their issues.
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Perhaps more people and nations should be interested in red wine than war. We'd all be better off!
Australia is proof of this ;)
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shome mishtake surely.(passes out on his central otago pinot noir)
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Nothing wrong with good Kiwi Pinot :)
I'm taking some American Friends over to the Langhorne Creek wine region tomorrow. This is the 2nd largest wine region in Australia and arguably the oldest. Its gonna be a hard day but I feel its my duty ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuyIGKpN1_o&feature=related
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hehe thats amazing. Nice looking bridge too.
To Basvarken
To Freuds_Cat
I had not realized it....I'm a idiot. Bac(c)hus ...so amazing!
http://www.deviser.co.jp/modules/products/index.php?cat_id=6
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TBirdMania1965, nah I've never been to Japan (I took one semester of Japanese language in college, but all I remember is how to ask for phone numbers). I've been trying to get stationed at Yakota AB for some time now, but it never seems to go through for me. I would love to live there for a while though.
It's enough to get girlfriends!
Yokota AB has a stupendous area! I wish you'll be able to come to Japan someday. ;D
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Welcome, indeed!
The Edwards is a beauty! Your collection looks like what I'd see at a NC State/Carolina football game!
Hi !
Does Carolina football game mean Blue v.s Red ,right?
Sorry,I cannot understand ,because never watched the game... ???
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Edwards has some nerve! Or Japanese IP laws are comfortably lenient ... :mrgreen: I know that in the past they have made faithful RD versions too for Toshi (?), that Dir N Grey (spelling?) bassist.
Greco,Fernandes(Burny),Ariapro,Tokai,etc,...
Japanese manufacturers had made many copies from 70's to 80's.
Yes, Dir En Grey,Toshiya. Now, ESP makes it.
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/toshiya/index.html
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I think at this point, we need a sunburst NR! Or at least I do, anyway (still chaffing over missing that burst Epi NR a second time).
To the mojo hobo
I do! But available colors were only White or Sunburst at the last time.
To Denis
My NR was sunburst before I refinished it . And my friend has a White one.
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/DSC00207.jpg)
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Sinji,
I did get to see the other pics of your Edwards, you should share a few more with the guys here - obviously there's some interest ;) Hopefully you got the shots of my (under reconstruction) BaCH.
Hi Mark
Your pics are great! Thanx a lot.
I'll gladly share pics with the guys, but how can I do ?
Just paste the URL of my album here?
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To the mojo hobo
I do! But available colors were only White or Sunburst at the last time.
To Denis
My NR was sunburst before I refinished it . And my friend has a White one.
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/TBirdMania1965/DSC00207.jpg)
You know, I am a sucker for those tobaccoburst NR birds. Welcome to our dysfunctional family. Never been to Japan. Always wanted to see it. My dad was stationed in Okinawa, and his home movies from there included footage of a local Shinto festival. Cool stuff. He also brought back the original 78 rpm recording of "Tokyo Boogie Woogie".
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Sinji,
First that's a great pic of you playing that NR! Totally rocks!
Easy enough to post some pics from a Photobucket account, its free and very easy to upload from your computer - the site acts as a host for your pics, even a whole album.
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Hi !
Does Carolina football game mean Blue v.s Red ,right?
Sorry,I cannot understand ,because never watched the game... ???
Exactly, you have it right! And man, that IS a great pic of you with the NR before it was refinished. Someday I have to have one!
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The burst on those original NRs is beautiful (at lest it was on mine). That Edwards looks like it was a faithful reproduction of it. That being said, I really like the custom color NRs!
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Lefty Bachbird project has started?????
My friend found this topic.
http://www.leftybassist.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1022&start=0
It's cool!!!!!
Another my friend(he is lefty) is eager for it to release!
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Yeah, thats me trying...with no luck, i must add. Theres a thread going on here as well, it's in the Other Bass Brand section.
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Haven't played the Bachbird since June, as I use the bass in one explicit band. In my other band I tend to use Epiphone Embassy. Then, yesterday, I stumble across this great tune from the 20's, Softly As In The Morning Sunrise, a tune that's become something of a jazz standard, but nontheless is a beautiful tune with a very nice melody, that I guess is familiar to many of us. So, Softly... moves along in the back of my brain, all day long, and continues to do so. A bass pattern is starting to grow. Fifteen minutes ago I pick up the Bachbird. Starts to play along with the bassline in my head, without any amp.
And - WOW! I had forgotten what a great bass the Bach is! So easy to play! Thin, smooth. It was really worth waiting for!
So, to everyone who participated in the project, and especially to you, Rob: Thanks for all the work you put into this great project. And, thanks again. Very, very much, this time! Gracias!
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My pleasure Staffan!
The next project has just started:
Fenderbird by BaCH (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2847.0)
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Lefty Bachbird project has started?????
...
Another my friend(he is lefty) is eager for it to release!
Tell him to get to one of the places it's being discussed and get his name on the list! This won't happen unless we get enough people to even say they are interested. ;D
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Exactly. If there aren't enough lefties interested enough to commit to it, then it won't be released.
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I just got back from Afghanistan last week, and picked up my BaCHbird from the post office (when told of my situation they offered to hold it until I got back). I am completely surprised at how awesome this bass it. Endless thanks to Rob for putting this all together, and to Roman for making the thing.
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I just got back from Afghanistan last week, and picked up my BaCHbird from the post office (when told of my situation they offered to hold it until I got back). I am completely surprised at how awesome this bass it. Endless thanks to Rob for putting this all together, and to Roman for making the thing.
Thank you for your service and welcome home!
Kind of like coming home to Christmas with the Bach waiting ;D
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Glad to read you finally got your BaCHbird!
I knew you would be happy with it.
cheers, Rob
p.s. fancy a Fenderbird? 8)
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I've said it before, I'll take a lefty if controls and input jack are righty. Aren't there any other right-lefties out there? I'd even be prepared to foresake controls completely. A reverse non-reverse would look great.
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Non reverse RD I did a long time ago
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/RREVESE.jpg)
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I so think that would work... 8)
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I'm surprised no one has done one (Greco)
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Bach...?
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Thanks Lightyear. Yes, very much like a Christmas... er, like one when I was little. Nowadays I get like sweaters and gift cards, which while useful, are not nearly as rad as the BaCHbird.
I don't know that I'm in the market for a Fenderbird, sorry Rob. Between the BaCH, the Vinnie (pictures and remarks forthcoming, as soon as I find my camera lens), and the Tobias Growler I have on layaway (not the new set neck ones, one of the older bolt ons) I'm all bassed out for like a year, at least. I have some car repairs and a road trip and a new computer to build... and for someone who hasn't gigged in over a year, I've been buying a lot of instruments lately.
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I just got my BaCHbird bridge saddles notched yesterday. The notchless saddles drove me nuts. I kept knocking the strings off the saddles. All good now!
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That's funny. One of the reasons why the BaCHbird took so long was that BaCH rejected the first attempt of the Korean bridge maker, because the saddles were notched!
They decided to offer those bridges with notched saddles as a seperate item in the hardware corner of their store. And have their Korean source make new -unnotched- ones for the BaCHbird.
;D
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Speaking of BaCHbirds, I posted a new topic regarding a hardshell case I found which might work for them.
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2893.0
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I am lucky owner of a first run Bachbird (the thick body 5.5 kg bass) and looking for buy a thinner one. I check regularly the Bach site and sent an email to Roman who confirmed that the basses in black and sonic blue will be available by end January.
Today checking the site I found that also two pickups non-reverse thunderbirds will be available and in my most liked colors: TRD transparent red and DHB dark honey burst!!! I cannot choose the colors so have to find money for four new basses!
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Cool. Looks like they're finally taking my advice 8)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/news/TH1%20WEB.jpg)
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Oh damn! That looks beautiful...
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Uh oh! Time for a 2 pickup 'bird.
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Holy Crap ! Just beautiful.
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Years ago I settled on the non reverse Thunderbird as "my bass" Sure Jimmy Lea played a EB3 but once I got a NR in my hands I knew I was home. These Bach Birds are so close in feel and sound that I am instantly at home on them. I have a tough time shelling out for other basses (ie a new Gibson Thunderbird) because these basses are such a close match to my beloved NRs. Are they perfect clones ? No but they are so close it isn't even worth talking about the differences. Even the Artech pickup though not a Tbird pup has it's charms and imho doesn't need to be replaced. I am so ready for another Bach bird !
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I had the site in my favorites.................must have deleted it. :sad: Anyone got a link or addy ?
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www.bachmusik.com
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Two pickup model ? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I like the one pup. Rob did they sell that one pup sunburst ?
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Not yet Scott.
This month they'll have the new series in. With new colours.
And yes, also a two pickup BaCHbird (NR Tbird IV)
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Just to be clear will they have the one pup models also ? I do not want a two pickup bird.
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Yes. A II as well a IV.
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:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Not much info but in case you want to read whatever is there in English: http://www.bachmusik.com/en/
I'm totally stoked for a burst II but that dark transparent red sounds like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/Thunderbirds/66ThunderbirdIIincherrybody.jpg)
Which means I might have to figure out how to buy two...
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(deep sobbing sounds from the UK)
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More weeping
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH%20SBL%20CELEK.jpg)
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A NR IV in tobaccoburst? Oh, my. I have a feeling the Newport will be sold before too long, in that case.
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Cool. Looks like they're finally taking my advice 8)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/news/TH1%20WEB.jpg)
Holy Cow! That is absolutely gorgeous! It wouldn't take much to swing me over to one of these over the Entwistle bass they are working on.
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Such a beautiful piece! That T-bird II is really nice looking! A hymn to simplicity.
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I posted this elsewhere not knowing that anyone else knew about it-you guys are too good! I had received an email about the release of 2 pickup NR BachBirds in transparent red and honeyburst. Oh me oh my! I NEED one of these, pretty much simplifed my entire bass collection so getting one or two of these could be feasible. Hopefully I'm on the "notification" list for these, If yall can provide any good direction towards the purchasing process (i.e. money orders? international buying/shipping processes/taxes) i would love to hear from you. Can't wait to be a member of this little club-and play the snot out of this puppy! Cheers!
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That burst is NICE. Suddenly wondering about the progress of the Fender-y-bird seems more urgent.
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If yall can provide any good direction towards the purchasing process (i.e. money orders? international buying/shipping processes/taxes) i would love to hear from you. Can't wait to be a member of this little club-and play the snot out of this puppy! Cheers!
If it goes the same as last time they'll send you an invoice via email and want an international wire transfer from your bank. If you've never done one before (which many of us in the U.S. haven't really ever had the need to do), it's really not that big a deal. The teller at my bank had never done one so it took about 30 minutes to get through it all. With shipping and exchange rate (send the amount in whatever currency they ask for on the invoice), it was about $400 per bass last time around (no idea if it'll be the same this time). All the information you'll need for the wire transfer is included in the invoice, so print that out and take it to your bank.
A couple of things:
Once you get the invoice, pay ASAP. I left it for a week and they actually canceled my order. They just sent a new invoice once I convinced them I really did want the basses (I bought two), but they expect payment pretty quickly once they've sent that invoice.
My shipment took about nine days from payment sent to arrival at my door. Some guys got them even quicker than that.
I didn't pay any import taxes or fees. Actually, I never have and have bought quite few basses from overseas in the last nine years.
And remember when you come back to report on your new bird: No pics? No bass! :mrgreen:
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Such a beautiful piece! That T-bird II is really nice looking! A hymn to simplicity.
I like the IIs much better just for that reason...............simplicity ! I never liked a pickup by the bridge (EB3s being the exception) and I have always found one pickup basses have plenty of different tones to offer just by changing they way you play, pick vs fingers, where you play and using the tone control etc. I can't wait to see the dark trans red ! The sunburst looks fantastic as well I just might have to buy one of each ! My wife owes me a bass for renovating her yoga studio ;D
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I would really like to turn the Bachbird one step further into a copy of the original, bringing the finger rest (I know it's called thumb rest, but one can't rest the thumb on it, other than that one flips the bass? Can one?), and covers into the picture. But the prices seems a bit to high, at least for my economy. Is there anywhere to find copies of this stuff?
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:o
A sunburst IV?
I have always wanted one.
Where am I gonna get the money? ???
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I want the Blue one I sent an e-mail.
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I would really like to turn the Bachbird one step further into a copy of the original, bringing the finger rest (I know it's called thumb rest, but one can't rest the thumb on it, other than that one flips the bass? Can one?), and covers into the picture. But the prices seems a bit to high, at least for my economy. Is there anywhere to find copies of this stuff?
Not everybody wants one. That's the reason why it wasn't ordered in the first place.
It shouldn't be too hard to make one yourself. You don't have to be an engineer to shape a little piece of wood an put two holes in it...
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That's absolutely right. Though I was thinking in the way of a whole package. Anyone's got any info concerning the covers?
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I believe Gibson covers occasionally turn up on eBay, right?
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The Bach is a perfect platform and can be modded as close to a 60's model as your heart (or wallet) desires. If you don't mind getting close (but not exact), the chrome covers this guy sells are a pretty good deal:
http://shop.ebay.com/greatdealz1967/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
If you wanted do do a IV, the covers he sells usually have the ring included as well, so you'd be set. Scott (godofthunder) is a great source for the guard if you want to change it out, and the bridge if you really want to get crazy with it. I don't know if he has any in the pipeline, but Bill (drbassman) has tailpieces that are a perfect reproduction of the 60's pieces. Gold lettered Gibson trussrod covers come up on eBay all the time and would be correct. It just depends on how close you want to get...
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That's my point. The stuff seems to me a bit too expensive. The dolares gets into the 150-size for the two covers and the fingerrest. I know I can't get a price in the same division as the price for the B-bird, but somewhere close to that range would suit both me, and my economy. But I guess it's not possible. On the other hand, who knows what tomorrow brings? Right?
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Just checked Ebay, and found several covers for my Bach P-bass '51, in the $10-20 area. But none such a convenient price for a T-bird. Or a B-bird, for that.
So, my friends, he said (taking off his glasses, giving them a breath of air, wiping the glasses with the bottom piece of his cotton shirt), it seems like an everyday situation for an old man. When there's money to spend, there's nothing to spend it on. And when there's only a little money to spend, there's too much to spend it on.
- But, why don't you get the covers for the Bach bass?
He heard the remark. The natural question. But he did not listen. He started feeling sorry for himself. Poured a drink of Southern Comfort. Felt the spirits rise. And started to think of another subject to worry the Ghosts of the Outpost with.
- Let's see now...
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So, my friends, he said (taking off his glasses, giving them a breath of air, wiping the glasses with the bottom piece of his cotton shirt), it seems like an everyday situation for an old man. When there's money to spend, there's nothing to spend it on. And when there's only a little money to spend, there's too much to spend it on.
I had that problem long before I got old.
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I know the tailpiece cover is different between a P bass and a bird, but are the pickup covers any different? If they're close, one could always fudge a bit and get the less expensive P cover.
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All right, you guys. I might as well admit it. Before I had the chanse to pour myself a glass of whiskey, my brother came home from hospital. He'd done his first treatment for his brain tumour. Feeling just all right, and glad that he'd gone through the first of ten treatments. Those are with some kind of rays, don't know what they're called in your language. Ulf, my brother, was glad. We had that Southern Comfort, a couple of glasses, then dinner, wine, a couple of friends, coffe, Remy Martin, Link Wray, that pianist who once played with Dave Edmunds, yeah, that's right, his name is... ... funny character, did an interwiew with him once.. lovely musician... What the f--k is his namne.... No it's not Delbert McClinton, it's... Watkins... Geraint Watkins! That's whom!
anyways. It's the world to have you anonomyous guys to talk to. All luck in the world to you!!!! Sheeers!
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I'm glad to hear that Ulf is feeling okay after his first treatment. I'm sure it can't be easy for him, and I'm sure it helps to have you and friends there for him.
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Aaahh, sounds like a great night. A little after dinner Link Wray goes a long way.
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Sounds like he's been getting some "El Rayo X"
Hopefully you can have a considerably greater quantity of sessions with your bro. and here's to successful treatment... :toast:
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Beste Wünsche für Ulf. I'm glad to hear that he hasn't given himself up and it is important that he doesn't lose the survival spirit as the treatment continues. I'm all for modern medicine and don't believe in faith healing, but you need the survival spirit too.
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Yep, they're ready; the BaCHbird with two humbuckers,
and the BaCHbirds with one humbucker. Both in new colors.
http://www.bachmusik.com/p1364/bach-th-2-trd (http://www.bachmusik.com/p1364/bach-th-2-trd)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH2%20DETA.jpg)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/THHB%20CELEK.jpg)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/TH%20TRD%20DETAI.jpg)
I wonder what wood it really is. They say is mahogany, but it doesn't look like it (especially in that last red one)...
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Rob,
Can we order thru you?
The red one is making me very wet :)
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Oj, oj, oj (as we Swedes says when we're really impressed)!
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That burst is just beautiful I hope Roman emails me back... The headstock shown on their site looks like it's been redesigned to be slightly smaller. Should help the dive a little bit.
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Good to see they're back! Still a very nice price for them (conversion via Google):
7698 Czech koruny = 417.485634 U.S. dollars
7698 Czech koruny = 295.335055 Euros
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Rob,
Can we order thru you?
The red one is making me very wet :)
Yes you can.
Although I have no idea which company I should use to ship at an affordable rate.
The problem is that the BaCHbird is huge.
I'll have to go figure that out.
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Wet ? That red one is making me hard :o Would it be best to order through you Rob ? Does it help you in any way ? What are the IIs going for ?
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It's not necessarily best to order through me Scott. I'm pretty sure BaCH will do an excellent job.
But yes, it would help me a bit since I'll be making some profit if I sell them.
Still waiting on BaCH to mention their price to me. (tomorrow maybe?)
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What's the best way to get in on the new batch, PM or just post here?
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Rob, if they're going to give you a dealer price (and the current price is close to what you'd also sell them for), I can't see why any of us wouldn't order from you. I'll wait to make inquiries until you figure your end out. I don't think I can afford more than one this time but I'm really liking that burst II...
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May I just say once again that I love this place!
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I want a lefty, now! >:(
If i'm not wrong, Rob, the top is in maple or alder, it's metioned somewhere in the Bachbird refinishing thread.
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Rob, if they're going to give you a dealer price (and the current price is close to what you'd also sell them for),
Yes that's what I'm aiming for George.
They do give me dealer prices on their basses. I've been reselling a few BaCHs lately.
I'll keep y'all posted
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I want a lefty, now! >:(
If i'm not wrong, Rob, the top is in maple or alder, it's metioned somewhere in the Bachbird refinishing thread.
Yeah that's what we discovered when Joe stripped his BaCHbird.
But I figured BaCH would not choose to use a maple veneer on the transparant colours. As it would be quite obvious.
BaCH told me they're working on a lefty batch.
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Yes that's what I'm aiming for George.
They do give me dealer prices on their basses. I've been reselling a few BaCHs lately.
I'll keep y'all posted
Look forward to your update!
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It looks like the red one is available as a II and IV and the burst one is a II only. By the looks of the site, they're back in the previous colors as well.
http://www.bachmusik.com/c211/model-th/
Is that the case, Rob?
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Yes that is correct George.
But I do think they also made the tobaccoburst (or honeyburst as they call 'em) in TH-2 (two humbuckers).
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I see a red II, that's all I need..............Sold!
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I wonder what Roman and they folks at Bach think of all this ? Are we their golden ticket ?
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Haha must be. Who in the h*ll wants these ugly bastards other than us here? ;D
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Haha must be. Who in the h*ll wants these ugly bastards other than us here? ;D
LOL!
Man, I still love my BaCHbird. With a peeled and chromed late model TB+ and good pots and jack, the thing kills. One of Scott's pickguards and a Gibson TRC, and it's all good. Oh yeah, and a piece of white electrical tape over the BaCH logo. 8) Great neck! So slim I was actually glad to find out they're maple.
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I'm really interested in the tobaccoburst IV model. And the Lull pickups. Better start saving my pennies. I may even sell some of what I've got.
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I'm really interested in the tobaccoburst IV model. And the Lull pickups. Better start saving my pennies. I may even sell some of what I've got.
x2 on all accounts. *Denis looks around the room to see what could go to finance one*
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I wonder what Roman and they folks at Bach think of all this ? Are we their golden ticket ?
Perhaps they could change the s/n to have an "LBO" prefix
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If they start giving them numbers, I second that motion!
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Yes you can.
Although I have no idea which company I should use to ship at an affordable rate.
The problem is that the BaCHbird is huge.
I'll have to go figure that out.
Rob, would there be any way to pay you via PayPal? I'm not sure if that would work but I would certainly be willing to pay extra to cover the PayPal charges and for the ease of the transaction.
The red one is speaking to me as well, though not quite to Mark's level of excitemnt ;)
Regardless, I would prefer to deal with you and I think you certainly deserve a percentage for all of your hard work.
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The honeyburst II has my attention. I'm on board if Rob would like to set a price.
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Haha must be. Who in the h*ll wants these ugly bastards other than us here? ;D
When I picked up my first NR I thought man what a ugly bass :o Then I plugged it in .........................and that was that, now nothing feels of sounds better than a good NR ! I include the Bachs in that statement !
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Scott, I've grown to think the NRs are simply gorgeous!
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I agree nothing else looks right to me !
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BaCH told me they're working on a lefty batch.
:toast: :rimshot: YEEHAAA!
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The honeyburst has me gritting my teeth myself. I'm struggling to pay for some recording ATM. I gotta ask myself which is more important. What a great looking bass.
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I would be interested in a red one for sure. I'll keep an eye on this thread.
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Gentlemen,
I can offer the BaCHbird for the following price EDIT :
TH-1 (with one pickup): 254,60 euro (no vat for people in USA)
in the colors black, white, sonic blue, transparent red or honeyburst
TH-2 (with two pickups): 277,30 euro (no vat for people in USA)
for the time being only available in transparent red
Shipping EDIT:
So far the best option is shipping with DPD. That would be 115,20 euro to the US.
The package is fully insured.
DEliveru between 3-8 business days
Case
A matching case costs 105 euro
It is possible the shipping of a bass plus case is a little bit more expensive because it is a bit heavier.
Let me know if you're interested. I'm sure we can work something out.
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No problem Rob count me in for a TH-1 in trans. red :) My first Bach arrived via the US Post Office maybe that is a option to explore ? Less than Fed Ex I am sure and you can insure for the full value.
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Thanx Scott. The TNT Post is the Dutch equivalent of US Post Office.
I sent them an email to ask about raising the insured value
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Yeah, I was wondering about EMS. Would they be available from over there?
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again TNT
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I found another parcel service: DPD
They can ship for 115,20 Euro.
The bass is then fully insured.
It takes 3 -8 business days from The Netherlands to USA
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Do non Europeans still end up paying the VAT?
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I'm not sure George. I thought so yes...
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Rob, I'm sure you can do something at your end about the VAT. I just got a guitar DVD from a company in Eindhoven, 19% VAT was listed in the cost but not charged to US customers.
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I will ask my accountant. I'm a total newbie on this :-[
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whoa, my knees just got a little week after reading these updates.
That IV is so sweet. I'm feeling the anxiety...
We should definitely make all purchases through Rob.
Our man Basvarken! :toast:
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Gentlemen,
I can offer the BaCHbird for the following price:
TH-1 (with one pickup): 303 euro (vat included)
in the colors black, white, sonic blue, transparent red or honeyburst
TH-2 (with two pickups): 330 euro (vat included)
for the time being only available in transparent red
Shipping EDIT:
So far the best option is shipping with DPD. That would be 115,20 euro to the US.
The package is fully insured.
DEliveru between 3-8 business days
Case
A matching case costs 105 euro
It is possible the shipping of a bass plus case is a little bit more expensive because it is a bit heavier.
Let me know if you're interested. I'm sure we can work something out.
Looks good, Rob. How sure is BaCH that the honeyburst TH-2s will be built? I'd hate to hold out for one of those, then find they've decided against making that one and miss my chance.
Thanks!
Denis
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I need an information to buy the pickup used in the Bachbird: I realized that it is different from that I can find listed in ebay. Where I can find the one used in the Bach?
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I think it's an Alnico but not sure. It's in that very long BaCHbird thread somewhere though.
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The pickup is an Artec pickup. I have one that I'm not using right now, if you're interested in a deal. I put a '60s Gibson in my BaCHBird. You can find these up on eBay pretty frequently.
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Yes that's correct it's an Artec.
And yes it's an AlNiCo.
The ones you can find on Ebay are ceramic.
If I were you I'd buy the one from Gary (gweimer)!
About the honeyburst IV: I asked BaCH, and this morning they told me they only have the Red IV so far. But they're were busy milling the pickup cavities. So maybe they'll make a few honeyburst IVs.
I also told them the second volume pot should not be exactly in the middle.
Let's hope they convert a few of those honeyburst IIs into IVs, so I can make everyone happy.
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I need an information to buy the pickup used in the Bachbird: I realized that it is different from that I can find listed in ebay. Where I can find the one used in the Bach?
Once I get mine, if you're still looking you may have it for free as I'll replace it with a Lull pickup.
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Rob, what about PayPal? If not Paypal will you be using the bank transfer route?
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Denis , id go for the single pup with the burst. U wont be disapointed. u can always add 1 ....or 2 :mrgreen:
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Good news for all our American friends.
No VAT needed!
prices are
254,60 Euro for the TH-1
277,30 Euro for the TH-2
(EDIT: it's in Euro of course)
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Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's $358.00 USD, not including shipping of course. What a f'ng bargain ! For those who have never experienced the joy of a Non Reverse or could not afford one here is your chance. Though not totaly accurate in construction and pickups, they capture what is great about these basses. If Gibson ever reissuied this they would ball it up but good and charge 5k. No need to spend that with Bach birds available. On another forum the question was posed what new gear will we be clamoring for 20 years from now ? I bet these basses will be very much in demand.
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Let's hope they convert a few of those honeyburst IIs into IVs, so I can make everyone happy.
YES!
Denis , id go for the single pup with the burst. U wont be disapointed. u can always add 1 ....or 2 :mrgreen:
Oh, I know the single pups aren't disappointing. I have one of the earlier black ones and love it!
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Rob are they putting veneer on the tops of the bodies again ? The sunburst looks to be mahogany while the trans cherry look like maple or birch.
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Excellent !!
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Rob are they putting veneer on the tops of the bodies again ? The sunburst looks to be mahogany while the trans cherry look like maple or birch.
I'm not sure Scott. I've only seen it in the online pics so far.
And by looking at those pics I have serious doubts if the trans red is mahogany. The grain doesn't look like it. So yes, maybe it's got that veneer again.
BaCH also says on their website the neck is mahogany. Which we discovered isn't mahogany at all in the first series...
I'll ask them again. :P
Ahhh... it's BaCH bliss. Two steps forward, one step back.
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I'm not sure Scott. I've only seen it in the online pics so far.
And by looking at those pics I have serious doubts if the trans red is mahogany. The grain doesn't look like it. So yes, maybe it's got that veneer again.
BaCH also says on their website the neck is mahogany. Which we discovered isn't mahogany at all in the first series...
I'll ask them again. :P
Ahhh... it's BaCH bliss. Two steps forward, one step back.
BaCH to the future. Heh.
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Rob, thank you so much for checking on that VAT issue. The difference in price between these and the first series seemed really big to me, but I figured a lot of that was VAT. It sucks that you guys have to pay it, but I guess the trade off is you don't have to pay 100 Euros to ship it!
Whatever they're using wood-wise, if this series sounds as good as the first, I'll be happy.
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I specifically asked BaCH and they just replied to me (BaCH answer in blue):
1- is the neck really mahogany?
100% mahagony.
2- is the body 100% mahogany? Or is it sandwiched with maple veneer like the first series?
The pictures of the honeyburst look like mahogany, but the transparent red don't look like mahogany.
100% mahagony . Wait my detail pictures tomorrow.
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Excellent :)
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Thanks so much Rob!
Shipped, based off of xe.com, the basses will run us Americans around 525.00-550.00 depending which model you get. That's not bad at all!
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Rob, any idea how much shipping would be to Australia, with case?
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Hi Mark, that depends on the total weight. Should be something like 13 kilograms.
In that case it's 151 euro.
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I am busy setting up a dedicated email box for the basses and guitars.
When that email is fully functional I can use it for PayPal.
It's only a matter of a few days.
Then we can start rolling.
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paypal :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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:thumbsup:
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Woo-hoo!
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I am busy setting up a dedicated email box for the basses and guitars.
When that email is fully functional I can use it for PayPal.
It's only a matter of a few days.
Then we can start rolling.
PayPal is excellent! This lets me buy a bird and and then sell off something to fund it by using my Visa card. ;D
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Paypal is excellent because I can just pay for the bass over a month or two and not have to sell anything :)
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Paypal is excellent because I can just pay for the bass over a month or two and not have to sell anything :)
Bingo !
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I'll probably get another one now! :toast:
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I so badly want a Honeyburst. I'm fighting with my funds to make it happen
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Paypal is excellent because I can just pay for the bass over a month or two and not have to sell anything :)
You, Madame, are lucky to be single ;)
Actually, my wife is great and she would tell me to buy it and have fun with it. The problem is that I'm just a flat out cheap bastard in a bad economy :P
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An hour ago I bartered my way out of paying all but the "out of pocket" expenses for next weeks recording. This fact of course frees up the cash that I had earmarked to pay for it. Which in turn makes said cash available for the purchase of a Honey Burst NR. Now all I gotta do is find the time to do the work to pay for the recording :rolleyes:
Such is the normal cycle of my life ;D
Speaking of recording, my playing is so crap at the momment due to spending too much time organising and arranging etc and not enough playing (still need to finish the lines on 2 out of the 3 songs). I am panicking a bit about the fact that the studio is booked for 8 days time. :sad:
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I'm feeling good...a 2010 kickoff gig tomorrow night with a new band, and today we booked a summer festival date. Real estate day job be damned.
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Hey Rob, any new word if they'd make a few 2 pickup Honeyburst birds?
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No, not confirmed yet.
In the meanwhile I set up a PayPal account for projcets like these.
info at numberoneguitars dot com
I'm working on a simple website where I plan to put pictures and prices etc.
Anyone who wants to order a BaCHbird, just shoot me an email to the address at numberoneguitars
You can order now!
cheers,
Rob
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typed in the addresss............................... I see nothing
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The site isn't online yet. I'm still working on it.
The email address does work though.
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So, who's got one coming? My name is on a Transparent Red TH-2. Can't wait for it to arrive!
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Honeyburst TH-1 coming to me. I can't wait!
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I have a TH-2 on order.........quietly hoping that they do a Honeyburst run of them... :mrgreen:
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I have a TH-2 on order.........quietly hoping that they do a Honeyburst run of them... :mrgreen:
That was my preferred as well and if one accidentally was substituted for a trans red, I wouldn't complain!
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The first few BaCHbirds are on their way from Czechia to The Netherlands.
I expect them any day now. I'll keep y'all posted when they arrive.
In the meanwhile BaCH has revamped their site:
www.bachmusik.com
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Sweet!
The pics of the back of the Honeyburst are terrific! Interesting, I didn't see the TH-2s on their revamped website. I wonder if we bought them all out already.
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Sweet!
The pics of the back of the Honeyburst are terrific! Interesting, I didn't see the TH-2s on their revamped website. I wonder if we bought them all out already.
gasp!!
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The first few BaCHbirds are on their way from Czechia to The Netherlands.
I expect them any day now. I'll keep y'all posted when they arrive.
Oooooooooh, do I smell new BaCHbirds to the US in two weeks or less? :mrgreen:
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Did they go back to a thick body? That sunburst looks like it.
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Today the first new BaCHbirds have arrived.
I gotta say they look awesome. I almost regret having to ship them to the USA in a few days. ;)
I noticed a few things
The wood looks like Sipo to me. Both body and neck. (so no veneer, no maple)
The saddles of the bridge are notched. The first series had unnotched saddles.
The pot knobs are black mirror caps. The first series had those metal knurled ones
The body is 37 mm. That is the accurate thickness.
Here's a few pics.
The TH-2 Transparent Red.
Beautiful wine red color finish where the grain shines through clear as glass
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-2-TRR.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-2-TRR-angle.jpg)
The TH-1 Honey Burst.
in the pics it tends to Tobaccoburst, but in reality it has more yellow in it so the Honey seems apt.
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-1-DHB.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-1-DHB-body.jpg)
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Today the first new BaCHbirds have arrived.
I gotta say they look awesome. I almost regret having to ship them to the USA in a few days. ;)
Regrets, what regrets? :P
Can't wait!
PS: What's Sipo?
EDIT: Nevermind, looks to be a mahogany of some kind from the African family. Guessing it has similar tone characteristics? Mind plugging one in? ;D
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Oh, my!!!!
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Gasp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That trans cherry is something !
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That burst is really nice, and the cherry looks very Gibson-like.
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Here's a little video I shot just 15 minutes ago. The iSight camera of my iMac isn't the highest quality and the picture is kinda dark but it'll do for now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHPN2MSaug
Bass plugged straight into the desk. No eq.
1. both pick ups full on. tone full on
2. neck pickup only. tone full on
3. bridge pickup only. tone full on
4. neck pickup full on, bridge pickup open. Tone rolled off.
EDIT: new video.
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Amazing how good these sound stock :o But I have said that before ;D
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Wish i had the money!,.
Nitro Pelham blue would be awsome, I would have to bring it to a tanning salon to get it to that nice faded green.
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The tones are great but that neck looks absolutely beautiful.
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Ok ok ok, ship them already! ;D
Seriously though Rob, THANKS A MILLION!
Thanks for the video clip, sounds great and great playing!
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Did I mention it is light?
It only weighs 3.8 kG.
That is a huge difference with the first series.
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Did they go back to a thick body? That sunburst looks like it.
Good Eye!
I got my TH-2 Thursday. (Sorry Rob, I had asked Roman a long time ago for a red bird.)
My initial reaction was that it was a bit heavy.
Comparing the TH-1 and TH-2 side-by-side I see the TH-2 is thicker in the body and is lacking the tummy cut, and is quite noticably heavier. The good news is that the neck profile is the same (as far as I can tell), and it sounds great.
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/th-2-1.jpg)
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/th-2-2.jpg)
(http://www.mojohobo.com/images/th-2-3.jpg)
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I noticed on the Bach web site they now have blue, black, and white TH-1s in stock, I wonder if they still have the tummy cut and thinner body, or is the current batch all the same.
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The first series had a very thick body. 44 mm! :o
The second series had a much thinner body. 36 mm.
The new series is 37 mm thick. In comparison to the first series this one feels light to me.
I have no idea why they didn't make a tummy cut. I guess they just forgot?
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Gotta love Bach ! ;)
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Agree! That part, being non-rational, is really charming. If I had the money right now, I'd go for one these red devils. Really beautiful.
Simply a fantastic work by the Czech, and our Dutch brother. I bow my head.
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The wood looks like Sipo to me. Both body and neck. (so no veneer, no maple)
That's cool. I was just about to ask what the thoughts were about the body construction on the transparent ones, as I didn't see the laminates like they used in the last batch...
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/thunderbird/refin/DSCF0029.jpg)
I still can't put this bass down. I was trying to force myself to bring something different to a gig tonight, but why fight it!
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Has it been 3-8 days yet? :sad:
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I have not lookrd here for a bit . Very nice . For someone that does not like red, the red is very sexy> :mrgreen:
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Holy cow, that's beautiful! Can't wait for it to arrive! Now I'm really glad I went for a red one. :)
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I am giddy this AM, payment sent for a trans cherry TH-1 ;D
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I am giddy this AM, payment sent for a trans cherry TH-1 ;D
You're giddy!? Try waiting for next week to come around for your bass (or one like it) seen in videos ;)
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Hang on in there buddy.
I'm waiting for the distributor to give me the right software to print the labels... :-\
They could have told me that weeks ago. But now that I'm ready to ship them they come up with this crap.
Worse is that I need to install it on Windows :o
I run it on my Mac through Parallels...
Oh it's going to be just fine. It just frustrates the hell out of me.
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Hang on in there buddy.
I'm waiting for the distributor to give me the right software to print the labels... :-\
They could have told me that weeks ago. But now that I'm ready to ship them they come up with this crap.
Worse is that I need to install it on Windows :o
I run it on my Mac through Parallels...
Oh it's going to be just fine. It just frustrates the hell out of me.
Don't you love it when they pull that last minute stuff? Thanks for your work on this!
By the way, any idea how many TH-1s and TH-2s BaCH built this go around?
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Hang on in there buddy.
I'm waiting for the distributor to give me the right software to print the labels... :-\
They could have told me that weeks ago. But now that I'm ready to ship them they come up with this crap.
Worse is that I need to install it on Windows :o
I run it on my Mac through Parallels...
Oh it's going to be just fine. It just frustrates the hell out of me.
Oh no worries Rob, that was angled at Scott, not you. I could wait a month for the shipment (although I'd rather not ;) ) but Scott knows nothing of giddy. ;D
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True at least I can play my black one till the trans cherry shows up ;D
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True at least I can play my black one till the trans cherry shows up ;D
Another reason why I love and hate you Scott! But you're only helping me to prove you're not as giddy as I am, haha.
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;D
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As tempted as I am to get the TH-2, I took a look at my budget for the year, and it's not going to happen yet.
I can say that I took my TH-1 to a blues jam yesterday, and had a couple people come to me and asked about it. It was also REALLY loud. Good, but loud. I actually had to turn it down. :mrgreen:
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Whoo hoo! My TH-2 shipped today, heading for the ole US of A!
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Whoo hoo! My TH-2 shipped today, heading for the ole US of A!
Ditto ;D
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;D
And there's a lovely cherry single pup on it's way to sunny Seattle today ;)
:toast:
Thanks Rob!
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;D
And there's a lovely cherry single pup on it's way to sunny Seattle today ;)
:toast:
Thanks Rob!
Nope. I'm not gonna say it. It's just too easy a setup. Gonna resist the urge altogether... :o
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Nope. I'm not gonna say it. It's just too easy a setup. Gonna resist the urge altogether... :o
Relax don't do it
When you want to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
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Awwwww...................Go ahead!
Clean up is easy! Soap and water ;)
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My TH-1 is on it's way also ! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I personally feel that March 8th should be a US Holiday now...
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It will be for me ;)
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I've never used DPD but has anyone else in the US noticed that your zip and country got changed from USA to FR with a different zip?
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Maybe they're flying them via France?
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I've never used DPD but has anyone else in the US noticed that your zip and country got changed from USA to FR with a different zip?
Maybe they're flying them via France?
I think they listed USA and the destination zip once when they picked it up and again when it arrived at the terminal for shipment. Based on what I see, I think they are shipping from France to JFK using TNT. What I think is amusing is that on the last line the code applied is "48" which is defined as "unpacked tyre". I certainly hope they don't treat it as such!!!
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unpacked tyre
:o
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Okay, NOW I'm nervous...
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Hmmmm, interesting. Well like I said, I've never read DPD's tracking site before, so I'm not used to it like I am with Fedex or UPS. I guess we'll see where this goes...
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Maybe yours will "accidentally" go to my house at the same time as mine. ;D
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Maybe yours will "accidentally" go to my house at the same time as mine. ;D
Haha, I tell you what, as long as it's in the US, I won't care
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Looks like mine's going to JFK..........
The bass is already better travelled than me, (at least in the past few years) Europe, New York - Probably a side trip to Vegas too.
;)
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I just checked, they're all at JFK now except for Bassvirtuoso's one.
That one is still in France as far as I can see.
I have no idea why.
Maybe it's because this is the only one where the address on the invoice is not the same as the shipping address?
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Or maybe the French got wind of his impatience!
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Or maybe the French got wind of his impatience!
I am German, I think that's in our blood. Would we have Blitzkrieg today if Hitler hadn't been so impatient to overtake Poland?
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I just checked, they're all at JFK now except for Bassvirtuoso's one.
That one is still in France as far as I can see.
I have no idea why.
Maybe it's because this is the only one where the address on the invoice is not the same as the shipping address?
Yeah I noticed that too, it says "Consolidation" though, so it might have been split up from the others and still being separated into the USA pile...
I would hope they wouldn't fuss about the invoice/billing address discrepancy, that wouldn't be any of their business I would think. They'd prefer to deliver to a business anyways.
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At JFK already? That's awesome. I'm under 2 hrs from there. Maybe tomorrow then!
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Or maybe the French got wind of his impatience!
Sounds like a job for Le Pétomane. 8)
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Sounds like a job for Le Pétomane. 8)
My Bach spent around 3 days in customs when it shipped EMS from Czech Republic. Probably soon after that though. I'm getting new controls and jack installed on mine. Can't wait to see everybody's new basses!
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IT CAME TODAY! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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IT CAME TODAY! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey, you got mine!
The status of mine hasn't changed since yesterday, according to the DPD website. Did you have to sign for it or did they leave it on your doorstep?
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IT CAME TODAY! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Nicccccccccccccccccccce ! Report report report !
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Haha, well I had Rob deliver it to my workplace since the delivery companies won't leave things at my apt. complex's main office, so it came in today on a Fedex truck.
Funny isn't it that I was worried I'd be delayed and yet I'm the first to get it ;)
You'll prob. get yours soon now too because my status never changed this morning, I thought it was still in France!
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Nicccccccccccccccccccce ! Report report report !
It has been snowing today and the temp has dropped accordingly, so I'll probably wait until afternoon to pop the box open. Then I have to serenade the ladies here at work otherwise they won't let me open it and play around! I'll try to snap some cell phone pics on my smartphone.
This is just in time for my gig tomorrow night, it might make it's debut with Uwe's BFG LP.
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Nicccccccccccccccccccce ! Report report report !
x2!!!!!!
It has been snowing today and the temp has dropped accordingly, so I'll probably wait until afternoon to pop the box open. Then I have to serenade the ladies here at work otherwise they won't let me open it and play around! I'll try to snap some cell phone pics on my smartphone.
This is just in time for my gig tomorrow night, it might make it's debut with Uwe's BFG LP.
Just so you are aware, when my black one arrived it honestly took a couple of weeks for it to settle down. The difference between when I first got it and several weeks later was unbelievable. At first I didn't like it. NOW I've another coming!
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x2!!!!!!
Just so you are aware, when my black one arrived it honestly took a couple of weeks for it to settle down. The difference between when I first got it and several weeks later was unbelievable. At first I didn't like it. NOW I've another coming!
Interesting, I'll definitely wait until she settles in before I make a judgement. I definitely want another one, so if this one is as good as I think it is, I'll try for the second batch of TH-2's that *might* just be Honeyburst....
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It's here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Holy Crap ! Rob your pictures do not do this bass justice ! Just beautiful ! Down to the shop for a quick setup :) and instillation of the new PG !
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and instillation of the new PG !
I'll be emailing/Facebooking soon about that Scott...
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Ach, you guys are killing me! I just KNOW when I get home there will be a note from FedX indicating they'd attempted to deliver but needed a signature and didn't leave it. :P
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Ach, you guys are killing me! I just KNOW when I get home there will be a note from FedX indicating they'd attempted to deliver but needed a signature and didn't leave it. :P
And that's why I always deliver to my work address now! ;D
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WOW! I agree with Scott, Rob's video didn't do this thing any justice. It's absolutely beautiful and happened to be in perfect tune out of the box ???
Can't wait to get home and plug it in!
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MOP dot inlay ! Nice upgrade !
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It's a good day here in Seattle too ;D
This lovely Orange beauty showed up at work.....
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Expi009.jpg)
No sooner than I get home with it and there's a knock on my front door and........
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Expi011.jpg)
And the new couple..........Back in awhile I'm playing the BASS!
Thank YOU Scott and Rob!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Expi007.jpg)
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Glad it there made it safe Mark ! A beautiful pair !
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All set for Friday night ! Set up and sporting a new guard :) ! Idiosynratic (is that a word?) as ever. The body is thicker than my first one, I like the thinner body ones, more like a real NR. No belly cut wish it had it, but no big deal. I just set this up and I can get the action soooooooooooooooooooo low, unbelievable really, plays and sound GREAT! QC seems to be getting better, the finish seems to have flowed out better, my first one was a little wavy. I LOVE the MOP inlays ! Adds just the right touch ! I knew the bass would be thicker it really isn't a big deal, any negative comments I have for the bass are MINOR, more stating a preference. I would (and will) buy another ! Thanks so much Rob !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it Love it Love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/drivebach004.jpg)
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All set for Friday night ! Set up and sporting a new guard :) ! Idiosynratic (is that a word?) as ever. The body is thicker than my first one, I like the thinner body ones, more like a real NR. No belly cut wish it had it, but no big deal. I just set this up and I can get the action soooooooooooooooooooo low, unbelievable really, plays and sound GREAT! QC seems to be getting better, the finish seems to have flowed out better, my first one was a little wavy. I LOVE the MOP inlays ! Adds just the right touch ! I knew the bass would be thicker it really isn't a big deal, any negative comments I have for the bass are MINOR, more stating a preference. I would (and will) buy another ! Thanks so much Rob !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it Love it Love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/drivebach004.jpg)
Scott, not to scare you, but you're missing your bridge pickup! ;D
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Gonna need a PG from ya Scott..... ;D
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I don't need no stink'n bridge pickup ;)
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Wow, I am really happy the basses arrived safe and sound.
And most of all so incredibly fast! I sent them away monday!
It was the first time I ever sent a bass to the USA. And first time I ever used DPD.
Looks we have a winner.
And of course I am very glad you like your BaCHbirds so much.
:toast:
Rob
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Mine's here too! Just got home from work and it was sitting inside my storm door. The Honeyburst is beautiful! I'm letting it warm up for a while before plugging it in. Wow, I'm stoked. I haven't even plugged it in yet and I'm trying to decide which color to get next. That's normal right? Thanks so much Rob. What an effortless and smooth bird acquisition. That's two birds in one week for me. I also got the green Jackson ,which I am loving. It arrived in brand new condition, not a single mark on it, no swirls-nothing. And both were only $500! What a great week to be a bass player.
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Holy cow! Mine was here too! This thing is unbelieveably beautiful! I love how the BaCH logo is outlined in black and visible against the clear on the headstock. Here are some detail pics of my TH-2. Thanks so much, Rob!
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06095a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06097a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06098a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06100a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06101a.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/bigtreebluesea/BaCHbird%20TH-2/DSC06102a.jpg)
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Congratulations guys (and gal!). The basses look fantastic!
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ARGHH!! I'm dying here looking at those beauties :o
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Besides Denis, what's everyone using for a case/gigbag?
I had an Epi T-bird case, but unfortunately it's not long enough for the NR.
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All I can say is....drool....
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Besides Denis, what's everyone using for a case/gigbag?
I had an Epi T-bird case, but unfortunately it's not long enough for the NR.
Nope, an Epi T-bird case is at least an inch too short. In fact, none of the gig bags I have will work either. These suckers are around 51.5" long so you'll have to hunt. You'll have to find an Epi Explorer bass case (which is what I believe mine is), find a beat to hell original NR case (good luck) or order one from BaCH, which is what I think I will do soon.
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Current Gibson cases can be modded to fit. Pull the material cut new foam and install. Piece of cake.
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Wow, I am really happy the basses arrived safe and sound.
And most of all so incredibly fast! I sent them away monday!
It was the first time I ever sent a bass to the USA. And first time I ever used DPD.
Looks we have a winner.
And of course I am very glad you like your BaCHbirds so much.
:toast:
Rob
I can't believe how fast either ! Thanks again Rob ! :toast:
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Current Gibson cases can be modded to fit. Pull the material cut new foam and install. Piece of cake.
I was just going to check my Gibson cases. Does anyone know if a Gibson dealer can order the current T-bird cases? Otherwise I'm searching ebay.
Denis- I'd love to get one their cases, but it just seems like a ton of money spent on the case AND shipping. Maybe Rob can give us a quote....
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Scott's suggestion of a new Gibby case may be the way to go. Last time BaCH made these I think the cases were listed on the website but were not actually available. Maybe we bought them all!
I was in the kitchen playing the BaCH and suddenly remembered that with the thicker body on these the Epi case I modded for my black Bach won't work: not deep enough!
The modifications I made to mine probably cost me only $30 and the time and besides, it was a fun and cool project.
By the way, the two pickups sound like thunder!!!!
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Congratulations all around. To Rob, as this way is going to be a lot smoother and faster than the direct ordering on the earlier run, and to all of you who got really nice looking basses. Whatever wood that is, it sure looks good with the trans-cherry finish.
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BaCH does offer a very good case for these basses.
Brown croc print rectangular case with black plush on the inside.
I'll post pics later today.
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Really beautiful basses you've got! I envy you! That red one, wow!
That body thickness, is it the same on all the new Bachbirds, or...?
Concerning cases, I bought a gigbag for my blue Bachbird a year ago. It's called Rockbag by Warwick. Though I wouldn't load it in a truck or trailer.
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Here's a few pics of the BaCH TH case.
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1-compartment-small.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1-corner-small.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1-handle-small.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1-tabletop-small.jpg)
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And that would fit a real Non-Rev as well, right? In that case I really like to have one. Where can it be ordered? Via the notorious Dutch middleman?
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And that would fit a real Non-Rev as well, right? In that case I really like to have one. Where can it be ordered? Via the notorious Dutch middleman?
Not "as well". They're made especially for the BaCHbird.
So yes that mean it fits a NR Tbird.
Just send me an email or PM if you want one.
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Done, zwei Stück bitte!
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Here's a couple quick shots of mine. It's really dark here today. I'll take better pics when the light is better. I love the bass. There are a couple of minor finish imperfections, like a small chip in the finish on the side/corner of the fretboard. And the nut is a hair off center. But it sounds and plays and looks great. I'm really glad I bought it and will more than likely buy a blue one at some point. Thanks again Rob. The whole process couldn't have been easier.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/bachbirdcu.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/bachbird.jpg)
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Nice! Looks classic too! Are you the only honeyburst owner here so far?
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I don't know Denis. I am wondering that myself. I figured it would be the more popular of the two choices but so far seem to be wrong. I'm sure that the TH-2 only being available in red has something to do with this.
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I'm sure that the TH-2 only being available in red has something to do with this.
Agreed, I'll own at least one Honeyburst TH-2 if they make them.
Seems your bass looks to be the one Rob posted pics of, so I bet you do have the first Honeyburst TH-1 here!
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I'm off today and have been playing it all day. The pick tone from this thing is absolutely incredible. I really haven't played much with a pick in years but am definitely going to now. It's so good.
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If they're still available later in the year I'll try for a honeyburst TH-1. I think they're beautiful.
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I'm really glad I bought it and will more than likely buy a blue one at some point.
You can't go wrong with a czech bluebird! :D
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I'm struggling with the choice between a Cherry and a Honey.
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Hey, it looks like they fixed the positions of the knobs and jack hole.
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Concerning the inside of the Bachbird: A friend of mine looked at the components inside, and just said "Crap"! Now, that's possible. I don't know. But I know some of you guys knows what to change to, if "crap's" the case. Right? Tell me, as Nick Jagger (as the Englishman was namned on Otis's version of Satisfaction) once said.
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My Bluebird has crap-quality electrics, I will change them for sure.
The pickup is good, don't make the mistake to change it without hear it with some good quality pots,jack/cap.
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What are the specifics I should look for concerning pots and jack?
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Hey, it looks like they fixed the positions of the knobs and jack hole.
Well, sort of.
4 out of 5 had the pots and jack in the right place.
The one that Scott got, had them wrong.
And yes, the pots are crap. I can highly recommend replacing them with CTS pots.
Plus, if you are going to replace them consider a push/pull pot. The Artecs can easily be wired as single coil/humbucker.
Gives you even more possiblities soundwise. Just pull the pot and you get a single coil. Push it back in and it's a humbucker.
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Rob, does an Alpha push-pull pot fit in the cavity or is it too shallow for that?
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I think it should fit.
In my BaCHbird (thick on from the first series) there is more than 5 mm space left.
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What are the specs for the pots? 500K?
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If you guys are replacing all the pots, has anyone installed a Varitone yet?
I got one from Big D Guitars and built a project box to use with any bass.
Besides the deep and grind settings, I found the thin "woman tone" "suck switch"
setting is very useful live for driving outboard effects like an octaver.
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What are the specs for the pots? 500K?
Yes that's what I used. 500 K audio for the volume pot
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How does the wiring work with a push-pull pot?
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And yes, the pots are crap. I can highly recommend replacing them with CTS pots.
Plus, if you are going to replace them consider a push/pull pot. The Artecs can easily be wired as single coil/humbucker.
Gives you even more possiblities soundwise. Just pull the pot and you get a single coil. Push it back in and it's a humbucker.
Could you recommend specific pots by part number on this link to Allparts CTS pots choices, please? There's a ton of them!
Solid shafts take knobs with a set screw but split shafts generally use the splined knobs, correct?
http://www.allparts.com/CTS-s/208.htm
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Well, sort of.
4 out of 5 had the pots and jack in the right place.
The one that Scott got, had them wrong.
And yes, the pots are crap. I can highly recommend replacing them with CTS pots.
Plus, if you are going to replace them consider a push/pull pot. The Artecs can easily be wired as single coil/humbucker.
Gives you even more possiblities soundwise. Just pull the pot and you get a single coil. Push it back in and it's a humbucker.
I get a kick out of all the little differences in the Bachs. Mine did come wired wrong but unlike my first one I did not have to put in longer wire to switch the jack and the tone pot, quick fix :)
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Here's a couple quick shots of mine. It's really dark here today. I'll take better pics when the light is better. I love the bass. There are a couple of minor finish imperfections, like a small chip in the finish on the side/corner of the fretboard. And the nut is a hair off center. But it sounds and plays and looks great. I'm really glad I bought it and will more than likely buy a blue one at some point. Thanks again Rob. The whole process couldn't have been easier.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/bachbirdcu.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/bachbird.jpg)
That is beautiful! I think I see a honey burst in my future !
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My Bluebird has crap-quality electrics, I will change them for sure.
The pickup is good, don't make the mistake to change it without hear it with some good quality pots,jack/cap.
I agree the stock pup really sounds good!
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Scott's suggestion of a new Gibby case may be the way to go. Last time BaCH made these I think the cases were listed on the website but were not actually available. Maybe we bought them all!
I was in the kitchen playing the BaCH and suddenly remembered that with the thicker body on these the Epi case I modded for my black Bach won't work: not deep enough!
The modifications I made to mine probably cost me only $30 and the time and besides, it was a fun and cool project.
By the way, the two pickups sound like thunder!!!!
I modded one of the tan and pink :puke: cases. I just pulled the fabric back, took out the foam, cut new foam and used spray adhesive in the fabric and slapped it back together. I got my new foam for free from a large furniture store chains distribution center, they literaley have truck loads of the stuff from the shipping packaging.
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How does the wiring work with a push-pull pot?
Not too long ago I posted this in the Mod and Repair corner:
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=3371.0
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So I think I found a gig bag that is long enough for the Bachbird. It's the BC Rich bass gig bag. It reportedly holds any BC Rich bass including the Warlock which is huge with all those points and whatnot. I found shipping dimensions for the Warlock at 57" long. That probably includes the box but with the Bachbird being 51" long, I figured it was worth a shot. The Bachbird box is 54" long. The bag is reviewed well and reportedly has 30mm of padding. It is $55.99 at all the usual places. I just ordered one from MF so I will let you all know how it goes once it arrives. I have looked into just about every gig bag made and this one is the only one I could find that might be long enough. Here's the link from MF:
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/B.C.-Rich-Bass-Gig-Bag?sku=541182
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The gig bag I've got is this:
http://www.9mileguitar.com/category.sc?categoryId=105
It's supposed to go with a Steinberger bass, but also suits the Bachbird just fine.
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The gig bag I've got is this:
http://www.9mileguitar.com/category.sc?categoryId=105
It's supposed to go with a Steinberger bass, but also suits the Bachbird just fine
I did not see that one it looks nicer than the BC Rich. Is it a tight fit or is there some room?
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I get a kick out of all the little differences in the Bachs.
Guess that's the charm of BaCH.
They certainly look like they're hand built. There were minor differences between the basses I've seen.
As long as those differences don't affect the quality of the instrument it's fine with me...
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The gig bag I've got is this:
http://www.9mileguitar.com/category.sc?categoryId=105
It's supposed to go with a Steinberger bass, but also suits the Bachbird just fine
I cancelled my MF order and ordered this bag. Thanks for posting Stjofön Big. It just seems more substantial with a neck bracing system, better and more pockets etc. I guess it would have made sense to ask what you guys that have owned these for a while were using. :mrgreen:
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I think you made a good choice, Salty! It's stuffed good, there's several pockets in the bag, room for everything connected to the Bachbird. Plus I can carry it on my back, like a rucksack. Though, when I do, the package so long I have to duck when passing a doorway. Makes me feel like Groucho Marx!
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I just grabbed a CTS 500K pot off Ebay for $8.50 delivered.
If I do decide to go for a TH-2, I think I'll be very tempted to do the push-pull conversion.
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I just grabbed a CTS 500K pot off Ebay for $8.50 delivered.
If I do decide to go for a TH-2, I think I'll be very tempted to do the push-pull conversion.
I think I've decided what I'm doing...
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I did CTS pots and of course a Lull pup, well worth it ;)
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Has anyone replaced the plastic nut on their Bachbird? Do you think this makes much of a difference?
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Rob, on the push/pulls, do I want short shaft or long shaft? Also, what value for the tone, and what caps are everyone using? What was the original value on the NR birds for the cap, 0.47?
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Has anyone replaced the plastic nut on their Bachbird? Do you think this makes much of a difference?
I haven't really noticed anything wrong with the timbre of the strings. Aside from putting a set of Roto RB-40's on, and dropping an old Gibson pickup in it, I'm pretty happy. And, as has been noted several times, the bass was perfectly good right out of the box. The changes I did made subtle changes, not drastic ones.
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I have been looking over my new bird, the grain in the body is spectacular lots of ribbon especialy the back, I think the body is one piece :o Oh never mind I took a closer look, three pieces, still purtty :)
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Mine has a seam. But it was very hard to find, almost impossible on the face. I've certainly owned much more expensive basses with less regard to grain matching. I also can't get over the perfect action right out of the box. No adjustment necessary on mine. Nice and slinky.
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I barely had to even tune mine! The ear on the G-tuner seems a little loose though.
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Here is my upgraded Bachbird, with chrome cover (original Artec inside), replaced knobs, push-pull pot, bird decal and thunbrest. And finally the truss rod hole cover.
Now trying to collect money for a TH-2 Bachbird cherry red !
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/PICT0935.jpg)
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/PICT0937.jpg)
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Hi Tore! Where did get hold of that thumbrest?
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Same ebay supplier of the pickup cover: greatdealz
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I did get a case with my TH-2. I really like it, the croc skin pattern is cool. The center latch is a little wierd though. You have to lift the handle to open or close the latch.
It shows in this picture:
(http://www.superfloor.net/CaseTH-1-handle-small.jpg)
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I did CTS pots and of course a Lull pup, well worth it ;)
Could you elaborate a little? What value pots, what value cap, and most importantly how did it affect the tone?
Thanks!
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Rob, on the push/pulls, do I want short shaft or long shaft? Also, what value for the tone, and what caps are everyone using? What was the original value on the NR birds for the cap, 0.47?
I used short shaft.
Here's the values:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Johnny_Crab/thunderbird_wiringFx.jpg)
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Thanks Rob, I figured the tone would be 250K and the cap .047, but I had to double check.
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Having no experience with T-birds, which sounds better the .02 or .047?
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I used short shaft.
Here's the values:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Johnny_Crab/thunderbird_wiringFx.jpg)
I've never tried to read a schematic before but does the single pup version show the tone pot as being first in line before the vol?
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Yes, it does show it that way, but electrically it doesn't matter, they are wired together. Another difference is in the II the Vol. pot wiper goes to the output jack. On the IV schematic the Vol. wipers come from the pickups. Again that is the same result electrically, you just have to be careful that you don't wire it backwards. Clockwise should raise the volume.
Interesting question though: it is counter-clockwise for lefties, or the same?
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I played the TH-2 at band practice last night. First thing I'm going to do, before I ever pick it back up again, is move the strap button to behind the heel of the neck! Wow, that thing fought me all night. Soundwise it was fantastic with the Artecs! I really dig the bass a lot and as long as I can fix the neck dive, it'll be a keeper for sure. I enjoyed the Artec bridge pickup a lot more than my bridge pickup in my Gibson!
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I played the TH-2 at band practice last night. First thing I'm going to do, before I ever pick it back up again, is move the strap button to behind the heel of the neck! Wow, that thing fought me all night. Soundwise it was fantastic with the Artecs! I really dig the bass a lot and as long as I can fix the neck dive, it'll be a keeper for sure. I enjoyed the Artec bridge pickup a lot more than my bridge pickup in my Gibson!
Yep, that is a must and will make it so much easier to deal with! If your strap is wide and with rough leather on the downside it will help a lot as well.
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Yep, that is a must and will make it so much easier to deal with! If your strap is wide and with rough leather on the downside it will help a lot as well.
I'll most likely use my Cronkhite "S" strap on it, so once I get my Duncan Strap Locks installed, she'll be perfect!
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Either way, once you relocate the strap pin, the dive is minimal and completely acceptable. How do you like the length of the BaCH?
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Length has never bothered me much. My first bass was an Epiphone Thunderbird and that had tons of reach. It feels comfy and the neck makes a big difference when it comes to length. The bigger neck on the Epi fatigued my hand much quicker than this BaCH does.
I agree that once I get the strap pin moved, it'll be a lot better. I wonder if my "technique" of putting my right arm on the wing of the instrument will change any after switching from a Reverse Thunderbird to this NR.
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I'm a big guy so I never have any problems with the dive issue. I had one of the older Epi non reverse 'Bird 5 string basses and didn't have any issue with dive. The string spacing was a bit tight though.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2ivky1f.jpg)
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Now there's a gig shot!
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Scantily dressed Birds ;)
Getting paid is just the icing on the cake!
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Length has never bothered me much. My first bass was an Epiphone Thunderbird and that had tons of reach. It feels comfy and the neck makes a big difference when it comes to length. The bigger neck on the Epi fatigued my hand much quicker than this BaCH does.
I agree that once I get the strap pin moved, it'll be a lot better. I wonder if my "technique" of putting my right arm on the wing of the instrument will change any after switching from a Reverse Thunderbird to this NR.
"Roomy" is a term I like to use on these! I've been resting my arm on my TH-2 and holding it a little higher and it's surprisingly comfortable and reduces dive even further.
As an aside, I think the neck on the TH-2 is slightly wider and perhaps thinner than the second series (thin bodied) TH-1 I have. Anyone else notice a difference?
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Robert's thoughts... (concentrate on the playing... just concentrate on the playing...) ;D
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I'm a big guy so I never have any problems with the dive issue. I had one of the older Epi non reverse 'Bird 5 string basses and didn't have any issue with dive. The string spacing was a bit tight though.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2ivky1f.jpg)
I'm sorry but what was tight? ;D
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Either way, once you relocate the strap pin, the dive is minimal and completely acceptable. How do you like the length of the BaCH?
Within an hour of unpacking my TH-2 I laid it on the kitchen table and got out the cordless drill. The lady of the house says "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" as I calmly drilled a hole in the heel of the neck. I did have to buy an extra long strap though 'cause I'm pretty tall, and it does balance much better.
Also, I put a set of Chromes on it. Regular long scale Chromes are to short for the Bachbird, the silks rest on the nut, fortunately they have a super long version that fits nicely. And the TH-2 with Chromes sounds great.
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Haha, I don't even think I attempted to try my TH-2 using the original front pin!
That's good to know about the need for extra long strings because I was thinking of putting flats on mine.
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Roto Sound long scale fit fine, I am picking up a set of RS66LDs standard gauge today !
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GHS Heavy Boomers on mine.
Plus extra strapbutton on the heel.
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I'm using Roto RB-40's on my TH-1
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I'm running DR Hi Beam's on mine. They have plenty of length. Can anyone show a photo of where to put the strap button at the heel of the neck? I want to be sure to place it in the right location.
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(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/bbstrappin.jpg)
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WARNING! BEWARE!
Hi! I'm sorry if I fooled anyone to buy the Rockbag I told you guys about a couple of sides ago. I must have had a brain collapse, the link I refered to showed a gig bag that's to small for the Bachbird. I know I fooled Saltymonkey into getting one of these. Don't worry, I'll stand Saltys shipping costs for my brain lapse.
I'm really sorry.
The correct link for the gig bag I bought is this: http://www.9mileguitar.com/product.sc?productId=735&categoryId=105
The model nr is RB 20621 B/PLUS. Fits perfect for the first rounds of Birds, the ones from last year. Though I wouldn't know whether some of the new Birds are to thick for the RB 20621 B/PLUS.
I apologize...
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Am I glad??!!! You bet! Why? Because no-one has responded to my offer concerning economic compensation for my misguiding advice about the gig bag for the Bachbird. Which could have cost me quite a buck.
And you know, fellas, this reminds me of what my dear old mama used to say. She said:
"Son, this world is rough, and if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough. And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along..." I'm sorry...(sob!)... I don't have the strength to continue... :mrgreen:
Have a nice weekend, guys and dolls, I'm going to pick one of my nice ol' Embassies, jump on a bass, plug that bass into my Ampeg, and play with my band on its 30th anniversary tonight. Blues, soul, little bit of what might best be described as boogaloo, too. Anything goes, these days!
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I'm doing it again! The wrong messages seems to be jumping out of my typewriter. See: Bass, as in Embassy, is OK. Though bass, as the one one jumps on, is not OK. It should be read "Bus"! Comprende?
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Hey Congrats on 30 years with your band, what a milestone!
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I did not resist longer. Today is father's day in Italy and my wife asked me what I wanted as a gift: I just asked allow me to click the order button on the Bach web site. Now waiting for the cherry red NR TH-2!
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Anyone have any photos of their new birds in action on stage? :)
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we even have a special thread for pics of BaCHbirds in flight
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2509.0
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I don't own a pair of calipers, tuner size needed for replacements?
Thanks in advance!
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So, it looks like all of the BaCHbirds sold to folks here are trans red except for one honeyburst.
Rob, do you have any idea how many BaCH made or have a breakdown of numbers per color/# of pups? It would be interesting to know...
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I have no idea Denis :-\
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I don't own a pair of calipers, tuner size needed for replacements?
Thanks in advance!
I put the standard Fender style reverse tuners on mine. I used the Bach ferrules and had to make some dimples on back of the headstock so the tuners would sit flush. I used the Bach screws too and even though they are a tight fit they look very nice on the bass.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uzz6so.jpg)
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So if they're standard Fender size, that would make them 11/16ths size holes, correct?
Something like this should work then:
http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=99
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Those should work on the Bachbirds.
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I just took a photo of my Bach next to my L2 and it is amazing how huge the T-Bird basses are compared to the tiny boat oar!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/xdxo2d.jpg)
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So if they're standard Fender size, that would make them 11/16ths size holes, correct?
Invariably, the hole will be a metric size, so watch out for the slight difference...
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I ordered my Bachbird one week ago and I had not a reply from them with payment instructions. I send an email to solicitate but no reply. Is it normal?
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Yes it happens all the time 8)
In the end it'll work out fine, but sometimes you have to be very patient with them...
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They are VERY erratic about emails!
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You know who ISN'T erratic about emails?
Rob ;D
(Thanks Rob)
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While I thanked Rob via email for his great work regarding my second BaCH, I'm happy to post up here about the ease and simplicity of the transaction - Simply put, if you need something from BaCH buy it thru Rob :thumbsup:
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Do yourself a favor and order through Rob. He takes paypal, packs well and ships fast ! And like the other guys said he answers his emails !
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Do yourself a favor and order through Rob. He takes paypal, packs well and ships fast ! And like the other guys said he answers his emails !
I agree it couldn't have been smoother. The bass took three days to get to me from the Netherlands. That's nuts! It would have taken longer coming from New Jersey and I live in New York.
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I have been breaking in my Trans Cherry at rehearsal for the past few weeks. Again I have to say what a wonderful job Rob and Bach have done with theses basses. I forget that I am playing a Bach and not my 60's NRs. This new one has a slightly beefier neck than the first black one which is fine with me, my favorite NR a '69 has a really beefy neck and the Trans Cherry bass really reminds me of it. Bach does a excellent job with the necks the profile is just right and the fret work is very good. I love the mop inlays on this batch. I really like the mahogany construction ! Not the mystery meat of the earlier versions. My Bday is coming up in June and I already told the missus what I would like ;D If Gibson ever re-issues a NR it will cost a whole lot more and won't be half as good.Again Fantastic job on these basses.
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I'm really jonesing for a Cherry NR but just can't decide on 1 pickup or 2 ??? I like the simplified look of the single pickup, and it could easily transform into this
(http://www.flyguitars.com/graphics/66Tbird.jpg)
but I really liked the 2 pickup tone Rob got in his video demo. Decisions decisions decisions!
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One pup Birds Rule, I have no use for the other pickup
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I've just ordered a two pick ups cherry and now I am very tempted by a one pickup honeyburst to add to the white one that I already have. My Bday is also in June, may we will fest two new Bbirds in June!
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I've just ordered a two pick ups cherry and now I am very tempted by a one pickup honeyburst to add to the white one that I already have. My Bday is also in June, may we will fest two new Bbirds in June!
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Thank you for the kind words guys.
Personally I prefer the TH-2.
It has everything a TH-1 has, plus one extra :mrgreen:
Seriously: I like the tight tone of two humbuckers together. And I like the fact that you can dial the second pickup in just as much as you want.
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Hi, this is my first post and I have a few questions for everyone. First off I am beyond thrilled to have stumbled on this thread and the Bachbird. I have been wanting a non-reverse Thunderbird for a long time and was beginning to give up hope of ever owning one. I have almost settled for the Epiphone reissue version a few times but I could never do it because I didn't like the pick-up configuration and the reverse headstock. Fano guitars just released a version too which is also very nice but it costs thousands of dollars and yet still isn't exactly what I was looking for, the headstock didn't really do it for me on this one either. Finding the Bachbird was an amazing bit of luck.
OK so here are my questions:
1.Does the bass come with a case? In the description it says "Case for this model in our offer" that seems to imply that the case comes with the offer but I'm not sure if that's correct. Or do they mean that they also offer a case for an additional fee? I'm not sure what they mean and I have emailed them but I haven't heard back from them. I want to order the bass but I'm not sure if I should also order a case separately.
2. Since I haven't heard back from them is that something to worry about? Is Bach music easy or difficult to deal with? I'm a little worried about ordering something from an international company without knowing much about their history. Will they take forever to ship it out? Is dealing with them a nightmare or is it really as easy as it seems?
Thank you to anyone that responds to this.
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Bach does not respond quickly. The case is available for additional cost. I suggest than instead of dealing with Bach that you order your bass through Rob (Basvarken). He is a authorized dealer and responsible for getting Bach to make these in the first place. He went through great effort to get these built. Glad you found us ! Having played NRs for most of my life I can assure you that these basses really are a great version of Gibson's non reverse Thunderbirds.
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Welcome here, ours is a happy place :toast:
As Scott says work with Rob on this as all aspects of the sale will be much easier.
He accepts paypal and ships promptly, plus he communicates better than the guys at BaCH
(tho their english is far better than my Czech!). You won't be disappointed, for the $$$ it's a great bass.
Ze Fraulein ;)
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Thanks for the quick responses. How do I get a hold of Rob? Will ordering from him be the same price?
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Rob is our global moderator he is three posts back in this thread. Send him a pm personal message) .
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Rob is our global moderator he is three posts back in this thread. Send him a pm personal message) .
aka Barvarken
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aka Barvarken
Or Basvarken. :P
Johnbob, welcome. If you order directly from BaCH you will eventually get your bass, but there's a language barrier and you will have to buy by direct wire transfer of funds.
The difficulty is what prompted Rob to become an authorized dealer. He's in the Netherlands. You can pay him by Paypal and once he has the bass in stock, you'll have it within a few days. Look back in this thread a few pages, the people in the US who ordered from him got their basses in less than a week.
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Welcome to the club Johnbob.
PM sent.
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WARNING! BEWARE!
Hi! I'm sorry if I fooled anyone to buy the Rockbag I told you guys about a couple of sides ago. I must have had a brain collapse, the link I refered to showed a gig bag that's to small for the Bachbird. I know I fooled Saltymonkey into getting one of these. Don't worry, I'll stand Saltys shipping costs for my brain lapse.
I'm really sorry.
The correct link for the gig bag I bought is this: http://www.9mileguitar.com/product.sc?productId=735&categoryId=105
The model nr is RB 20621 B/PLUS. Fits perfect for the first rounds of Birds, the ones from last year. Though I wouldn't know whether some of the new Birds are to thick for the RB 20621 B/PLUS.
I apologize...
I bought one over the weekend and just received it today. Does anyone else have one right now? I put mine in upside-down as I didn't trust the angled headstock to be angled downward. It's a really tight fit too...
How does everyone else feel about theirs?
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I bought one of their bags, but for my Steinberger L2. What a deal and it is a great looking bag. I was going to get the premium model but the deluxe is really nice and was more than 1/2 cheaper than the premium version.
http://www.9mileguitar.com/product.sc?productId=685&categoryId=104
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Thank you for the kind words guys.
Personally I prefer the TH-2.
It has everything a TH-1 has, plus one extra :mrgreen:
Seriously: I like the tight tone of two humbuckers together. And I like the fact that you can dial the second pickup in just as much as you want.
My single pup model is a lot louder than my TH-2. Anyone else notice this with theirs?
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You always have a little drop of volume when you use two pickups in parallel. If it's not that the case, maybe its a wiring fault.
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You always have a little drop of volume when you use two pickups in parallel. If it's not that the case, maybe its a wiring fault.
Yep I have always experienced that. That's one reason I like one pickup basses ;D
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@ Denis try setting the pickups little higher (closer to the strings). And roll off the bridge pickup potmeter just a hair.
The volume drop should be solved.
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Thanks, Rob, I'll give that a shot!
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@ Denis try setting the pickups little higher (closer to the strings). And roll off the bridge pickup potmeter just a hair.
The volume drop should be solved.
Thats what I do too, if I want a treblier tone I roll off slightly the neck pup, otherwise I roll off the bridge.
Its the nature of the beast, you must live with it, but its not a big deal after you got used to it.
When you are using both pickups you got a kind of "mid scoop", its a kind of mid frequencies cancellation, so your output decreases, since we humanoids are more sensitive to midrange frequencies than bass or treble.
That midscoop effect is more audible with humbucker pickups, since they have much more midrange than single coils.
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And thunderbirds have more mids than just about anything!
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I have a few questions for you guys. I have e-mailed Rob about ordering a Bachbird after I initially e-mailed Bach directly and didn't hear back from Bach. Well now I have heard back from Roman and I have a few questions for you all. Have any of you ordered directly from Bach? If so, how was your experience? I'm wondering what the price difference is? Obviously Rob charges something for his time and effort, which is absolutely understandable. I know he provides a great service for everyone and it is only fair/right for him to be compensated for it, let alone the fact that none of us would be here right now talking about this bass if it wasn't for him. But is the main reason that people go through Rob the language problem or can he actually get the basses to the customer faster? Have there been problems ordering direct? I know in the beginning it was difficult getting a response from them but now that they have basses in stock and have an order page on their website has it gotten easier? The reason I am asking is because I have a friend here that speaks fluent Czech so calling them wouldn't be a problem and if ordering direct is substantially cheaper than I might go that route but if it's only a little bit of a price break for a huge hassle and Rob has a system that works maybe I shouldn't even bother ordering directly. I'm just so poor right now otherwise I wouldn't even think twice. I shouldn't be buying this bass at all but I have wanted one of these for a very long time and I cannot pass up this opportunity.. Ha..ha.
I'm sure Rob will read this too so I hope this doesn't offend him, me asking these questions because at the end of the day I will probably end up ordering it through him anyway.
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The difference can't be much based on what I paid for mine through Rob and the prices on the Bach site. Rob also takes Paypal which was huge for me. Bach only accepts a direct wire transfer from your bank. Buying from Rob was as smooth as it gets. He kept us informed, sent tracking numbers and I had my bass three days after he shipped it. After my experience with Rob i'd never even think about ordering direct from Bach. I'm not knocking Bach but I doubt you'll get it as fast or know what's going on every step of the way.
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Aside from waiting for an answer (and it sounds like you didn't have much of a wait), I had no problems ordering direct. The emails were in English. The only thing I'd advise is to be sure you pay the invoice right away when you receive it. The first round of basses were probably a little stressful for BaCH, as much as it was frustrating for us. In the end, things worked out fine. I got my bass within a week of paying for it. The biggest difference, as mentioned, is the fact that PayPal with Rob will save you the cost of an international wire transfer. The fee for that alone was $40 for me.
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Again I give Rob the big :thumbsup:
I had to spend about 40 mins. at the bank just to do the wire transfer, plus the fee. further there really wasn't a way to easily confirm that the $$$ had gotten to BaCH. Everything did work out fine of course, but by comparison working with Rob was much easier - I did it at home on the computer, no fees or wasted time, he provided great, timely service and coming from a retail background I can say he did a first rate for me. Thanks Rob!
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Cool, yeah I'm pretty sure I am going through Rob. Just to clarify, from the reading the message boards I in no way am doubting the quality of Rob's service or help. I know he has been a great help to many, many people on this board. I was more curious about Bach's customer service and their prices and stuff. I can't wait to order this bass and get it in my hands. I have wanted a Non-Reverse Thunderbird forever and I never thought I would be able to get one. I have considered getting the Epiphone reissue but I can never go through with it because there are too many things wrong with it, I don't like the pick-up configuration, the reverse headstock or the color. Let's face it, other than the body shape, it is nothing like a real NR Thunderbird.
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I see on the BaCH website where they are using a body wood called Caroline wood. I've not heard of this before. Anyone have any info on it?
http://www.bachmusik.com/en/bach-rbb-2-hb_p1035 (http://www.bachmusik.com/en/bach-rbb-2-hb_p1035)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?photo=rbb-2trd-through-jpg)
*EDIT: found an answer. "a species of poplar with an attractive grain and tonal properties similar to alder"
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I received a customs duty invoice for my Bachbird today from the shipper TNT. This is the first time I have ever purchased a bass or anything else from outside the USA and was not expecting it. Did all of you other buyers receive a similar invoice? Thanks.
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I'm sorry to hear that. How much did they charge you for?
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I received a customs duty invoice for my Bachbird today from the shipper TNT. This is the first time I have ever purchased a bass or anything else from outside the USA and was not expecting it. Did all of you other buyers receive a similar invoice? Thanks.
Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Although I had the bass shipped to my work address and we didn't get an invoice in the mail...
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I'm sorry to hear that. How much did they charge you for?
$74.02. Ouch. It says the actual duty is $44.02. There is a $15.00 TNT handling fee and another $15.00 charge coded as PI, a residence fee-duty.
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That is outrageous! None of this was told when I had a DPD employee at my office to explain how shipping to USA works!
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Looks like we are feeling the customs duty love like you guys in Europe have to endure when we ship to you. My original series Bach was shipped via EMS through USPS mail. I did not have to pay any duty charges using this shipping method.
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I was going to pm you Rob, but yeah I got the same thing in the mail.
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Oh well. What can you do? If there's a customs duty, there's a customs duty. I guess we're fooked. But the additional handling charges are kind of BS. Did DPD contract TNT to handle the shipping once the basses landed here?
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Mine was hand delivered by Fedex, does that make a difference? I'm still at work, but I'm wondering now if I got one sent to my billing address. Anyone else ship to a business?
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$74.02. Ouch. It says the actual duty is $44.02. There is a $15.00 TNT handling fee and another $15.00 charge coded as PI, a residence fee-duty.
I purchased a Fender P-bass from Ishibashi Music in Japan back in 2007, and that's roughly what I had to pay at the Post Office for duty + fees.
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I've never had an invoice like that show up for any purchase, including Japan, Germany, U.K., or either of Bach's - Hmmm.
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Well it is what it is. No big deal.
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Exactly. No one could have known. Sh*t happens.
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No big deal if it's legitimate, but I wouldn't automatically take their word for it that duty is owed on musical instruments imported from the EU. Worth checking out to be sure.
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I've been looking into it a bit. Basically what I've read so far in a couple of different places says: Import tax (also known as an import duty or import tariff) is collected by US Customs on every import that comes into the US. And the duty is a percentage based on the value of the imported item.
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Yeah, I got one today too, for the sum of $76.72. :-\
I didn't get one for the first BaCH I got, but that one was delivered by the USPS, so maybe TNT has some hidden lingo somewhere.
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FWIW: A guitar collecting friend of mine told me that the guitars/basses he got sent to Europe was first de-screwed. Then sent, together in the same package, as "guitar parts" to get into a different, lower, league of import taxes. Never tried it myself though.
PS Never try this with a reversed T-bird! DS ;)
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I just ordered my first Bachbird from Rob today. I sent him the payment this morning so hopefully I will get it in a few weeks. I'm so excited, I have wanted a NR Bird forever and I was beginning to think I would never own one and then I accidently stumbled on this thread and read about the Bachbird and how long this project had been going on. Awesome!!! A week ago if you told me that I would find a mysterious, somewhat hidden thread that would enable me to buy a brand new NR Bird for around $400 I would have laughed in your face. I definitely plan on doing some mods to mine like most of you guys have so I am sure I will have a million questions for you guys in the next few weeks. I will start with one for now. Where I can I find a chrome cover for the pickup?
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Realization with you yanks that you are not part of the European Union just as Germany is not part of the United States is somewhat slow! !- ) I pay 21 % customs on my bass-related US imports so don't complain! Or invite the Czech Republic to join NAFTA. Knowing their EU critical view they would probably prefer that to the current status ...
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It is not the actual (normal) duty they have to pay that's bothering me.
It's the extra $15 for handling and $15 residence fee-duty that came unexpected.
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Here is my Bach TH-1 with a Seymour Duncan custom shop repro Thunderbird pickup ! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/cherrybach76006.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/cherrybach76008.jpg)
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That looks good, did it come with the chrome cover? How much was it?
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The cover I bought off ebay from greatdealz1967 for 29 bucks came with the ring to ;). SD charges $ 190.00 to stuff the covers. They sound fantastic and is is a little less expensive than the Lull pickups.
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SD charges $ 190.00 to stuff the covers.
Wow, Scott tell us some more. Do you mean you sent Seymour Duncan the empty casing (from greatdealz) en he put the coils and potting inside that casing?
Or did he just slide the casing over one of his pickups?
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They put 60's repro pickups in the '76 covers. I don't think SD can supply covers, they just make the pickup.
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I just ordered my first Bachbird from Rob today. I sent him the payment this morning so hopefully I will get it in a few weeks. I'm so excited, I have wanted a NR Bird forever and I was beginning to think I would never own one and then I accidently stumbled on this thread and read about the Bachbird and how long this project had been going on. Awesome!!! A week ago if you told me that I would find a mysterious, somewhat hidden thread that would enable me to buy a brand new NR Bird for around $400 I would have laughed in your face. I definitely plan on doing some mods to mine like most of you guys have so I am sure I will have a million questions for you guys in the next few weeks. I will start with one for now. Where I can I find a chrome cover for the pickup?
Congrats. Johnbob you are going to love it !
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Scott - That looks really red there! Cool! Did you shape the pickguard? I noticed it's slightly different than Mark's around the neck area and possibly the lower point.
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Scott that is absolutely stunning. I'm having an internal struggle between the Honey Burst and that Cherry. I was leaning towards the Honeyburst until I saw that.
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I agree Scott. That's beautiful. I have the honeyburst and never questioned that choice until seeing that pic.
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Scott - That looks really red there! Cool! Did you shape the pickguard? I noticed it's slightly different than Mark's around the neck area and possibly the lower point.
I make my own pickguards and they are available. For my pattern I use a '66-'69 Gibson PG. The area at the butt of the neck was always very sloppy I make my transition into the area a little smother. Original '69 PG(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/69TBnewtailpiece001.jpg) My black Bach with Bach hole pattern in the pg(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/BachNRPickguard003-1.jpg) and my new trans cherry with one of my pgs with the Gibson screw pattern(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/cherrybach76006.jpg)
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Godofthunder- Thanks I am very excited.
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DAMN!!!!!!
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Is there anything under the pickguard on the trans cherry ones that would negate the use of a clear pickguard, such as odd routings or lack of finish etc...? Looking at Scott's picture gave me a really bad idea...
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Nope, just routed at the pup cavity.
Mine while I was install the Lull pup.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/birdparts008.jpg)
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Amazing looking bass Scott.
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Amazing looking bass Scott.
Thanks John, Kinda reminds me of your real one ! Again I am very happy with this bass !
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Today I finally managed to get the informations for payment form Bach and did the wire transfer. Hopefully I will get my TH2 cherry red in one or two weeks. Unfortunately I see that greatdealz has no longer chrome pick up covers...
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Unfortunately I see that greatdealz has no longer chrome pick up covers...
That stinks, I've been pestering them for weeks without a response. :(
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I actually sent a message to greatdealz too but haven't heard back either. I want those covers and for that price, all the other options are so expensive.
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Today I finally managed to get the informations for payment form Bach and did the wire transfer. Hopefully I will get my TH2 cherry red in one or two weeks. Unfortunately I see that greatdealz has no longer chrome pick up covers...
keep checking the listings, they'll probably show up again.
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I would like to say hello to everyone. I would like to thank Mark (TBird 1958) for recommending this site! I'm hoping to have a BaCHbird soon. The basses I've seen on here look great!
Cheers,
Jim
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Welcome here Jim!
I know you'll love your new BaCH as much as we all do!
I'll shamelessly plug Scott's (GodofThunder59) correctly sized pickguard as a nice addition once your new 'Bird lands in the States ;)
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Welcome Jim! You'll love the BaCHbird. I love my black one from the original run of 50 basses. Modified it with one of Scott's pickguards as well as vintage style reverse tuners.
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Welcome Jim,
I sent you a PM plus email.
cheers,
Rob
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Welcome aboard Jim!!
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Well my new Bachbird is at my doorstep. Just found the advice from post office that they attemtped to deliver when I was not at home but I had an unexpected trip past week. I was struck in Warsaw by the Iceland vulcano ash and was forced to take a train to Vienna and then to Milan and while travelling in Czech Republic I crossed the town of Hodonin where our beloved Bachbirds come from. I had never thought that one day I had crossed that station! I went there even before to get my bass at home
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/Hodonin/hodonin.jpg)
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/Hodonin/IMG00006-20100418-1245.jpg)
Am I the first of this forum been there?
And here the the new, beatiful baby from Czech. Many thanks to Bach for such a beauty:
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/SANY0063.jpg)
and the updated Thunderbird family:
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/SANY0066.jpg)
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now that you have all had these bachbirds for a while what is the general consensus. i have been wanting a NR to go along with my bicentenial bass but the prices are way out of line. Mike Lull's reverse look sweet but not NR. for clarity is the pickup placementof the neck pup the same with the 1 or 2 pup version???? I think Gibson pusehed the 1 pup version back toward the bridge but i am probably wrong. just appeared that way. not many visions other than Glenn Cornick i my mind of a 1 pup.
are the artrec pups ok or do i just get lull's pup's.
last guestion - is it still recommended to order thru Rob?
Jim
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now that you have all had these bachbirds for a while what is the general consensus. i have been wanting a NR to go along with my bicentenial bass but the prices are way out of line. Mike Lull's reverse look sweet but not NR. for clarity is the pickup placementof the neck pup the same with the 1 or 2 pup version???? I think Gibson pusehed the 1 pup version back toward the bridge but i am probably wrong. just appeared that way. not many visions other than Glenn Cornick i my mind of a 1 pup.
are the artrec pups ok or do i just get lull's pup's.
last guestion - is it still recommended to order thru Rob?
Jim
I have played NRs almost exclusivley since '77. Get the Bach you won't regret it. On NR Thunderbird IIs the pickup should be about 3 1/14" from the butt of the neck. The art tech isn't bad but in the end I would swap it out. Order from Rob ? YES.
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;D
What Scott said!
Plus me lovie Lull pups ;)
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Oh I'll be buying Lull pups soon enough, just using up my '76 covers.
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No dif in the neck pup position of a Gibson Non-Rev II and IV. They just added the bridge pup and one more knob, that's all.
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Slightly pimped and ready for the show tonight. I wanted to use my extra Blackbird pickguard on it, but that will take a litle work.
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj401/stiles72/Bach%20Bird/bach-pimp1016.jpg?t=1272751666)
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Here's my Bach with a newly installed guard from Scott. Lookin' good don't you think? Thanks Scott.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/Bachbirdnewguard.jpg)
And with my Greco just because. What a nice pair. The Greco is now holding court as my favorite bass.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn3/saltymonkey/Anicepair.jpg)
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What a beautiful pair of basses, Classic!
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Something does not look right with the pickguard you got from Scott. Are the early and later Bachbird bodies different dimensions?? Just look at the way it lines up with the upper and lower horns.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/es18nm.jpg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/4vnsz5.jpg)
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Maybe, they definitely look different in those two pics. I looked back two pages to 113. Scott's new red Bach looks similarly lined up to mine.
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But Scott's is dimensionally based on the real deal..........
And I think the basses are handmade one at a time, like a Gibson - resulting in some differences.
Here's a close up of mine from the second group, it's PG was made by Paul Chandler based on Rob's PDF.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/xmasbirds005.jpg)
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Bach has changed the body a bit. My black one is from the second sieres I think guard looks fine(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/BachNRPickguard003-1.jpg)This is my mew trans cherry same problem as Bills.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/cherrybach76006.jpg)
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From the pictures it looks like the neck is set in about a 1/2" furthur on the black ones. The bridges look to be placed different too (look at the relationship of the bridge to the volume knob). Is there a difference in the overall length?
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I dont know if its just me but that doesn't look very much like Mahogany. Maybe its just the pic and my monitor.
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The neck wood on mine appears to be mahogany, but the body does not. When I removed the pickguard, I could see a gap in the neck pocket and the unfinished bod wood is very light colored. You can also see this in the "saw dust" that comes out of the screw holes for the pickguard.
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To quote Rob from earlier:
Today the first new BaCHbirds have arrived.
I noticed a few things
The wood looks like Sipo to me. Both body and neck. (so no veneer, no maple)
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrispdekker/4579075270/?rotated=1&cb=1272995446640
Mounted the new pg today!
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Very strange! I live at the fifth storey of an appartment building. I never see birds on my balcony. I had my white Bird at the window, when a magpie flew onto the balcony! As if it was coming for the bass! I guess it recognized a cousin!
I have a bird-approved bird!! ;D
(No it was not John Entwistle reincarnated as a bird. My cat Curtis is already JAE reincarnated as a cat.)
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That really looks great in white.
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Rob - i sent you a PM and response to your email.. Jumbo (jim)
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm white NR
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that's what i am trying to reach rob about. A WHITE NR......................
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They don't have 'em in white at the moment.
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Well you guys have convinced me. I await rob's invoice. a nice new TH-1 in red. Always assumed i would get a burst but the pictures have swayed me and no whites are available..... My 76 used to be a burst until the prior owner sanded it off. what the heck was he thinking??? saved me money though.
WHITE - Next batch...... as you guys say.....
Today is the 5th. i guess my mortgage will wait till my next paycheck on may 14... Oh no i promised that to Bruce Johnson....
anyone interested in buying some of my stuff ))))))
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Its hard having an expensive addiction, at least we have something to show for it I guess.
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Nice blue BaCH with chrome covers! Do we know him? Or is he one of us and I missed something?
http://www.hillscloud.com/gear.html
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That is Chromium from here.
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2773.0
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Well, I replaced the volume pot, as suggested, and it's a noticeable difference. I took it to the gig last night, and used it for the first set. Big, fat sound. The CTS pot is the way to go. I hope to have pics up sometime this week, if my bandmates will part with them.
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Right, sorry, I was away from this forum for a while...
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Well, I replaced the volume pot, as suggested, and it's a noticeable difference. I took it to the gig last night, and used it for the first set. Big, fat sound. The CTS pot is the way to go. I hope to have pics up sometime this week, if my bandmates will part with them.
Sweet! Do you have the part number handy for the CTS pot you used?
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author=Denis link=topic=434.msg59516#msg59516 date=1273439226]
Sweet! Do you have the part number handy for the CTS pot you used?
I just got one of the CTS 500K mini taper pots off of Ebay.
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Sold my yamaha 10 anniv sheehan so what the heck
i have just closed the deal with Rob so in a few weeks i should be a happy owner of a red th-1. now i need to talk about upgrades....
Gweimer - is that the stock artec pup or did you put the 60's gibson pup in that baby?
500K pots makes sense. what about the cap??
bridge spacing ok or too tight??
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I put a '60s Gibson pickup in mine. I had one that I got about a year ahead of the TH-1. It only cost me $125, so I went for it. It also had the cover, which is why I didn't need the NOS one. Other than the pickup, pot and knobs, I haven't done a single thing to mine. The bridge, tuners and pickguard are just fine with me.
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Why 500K pots? The original '60's birds had 250K pots, which are usually recommended for humbuckers.
I have a SD Basslines pickup I'm wanting to install in the Bachbird. It recommends 250K. I have 500K in there. Which should I use?
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I'm not the expert. I just followed someone's recommendation. Experts?
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USUALLY 250k is for single coils, 500k is for humbuckers as the 500k will maintain more treble. now that is the norm but gibson birds never had a lack of treble. Maybe that is why????? Newer type pups may say differently but they are made different then the old with bridge versus neck windings etc....
The Capacitor may be more of what should be changed. What comes with the Bachbird versus what is stock in the gibson birds - anyone know and what is the pickup output of the artec versus the gibson. when i get mine i will do a comparison of the above if no one else answers this before it arrives. Probably next week????
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wow! me and my fender brain waltzed right in here. your security is slack. awhile back i stared a thread about caps. the general consensus says it's in your mind,literally. most folks can't tell the difference between different ones. :-\
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I'll find out tonight when I change the cap first, but I think it's the type of cap that doesn't make any difference, it's the value that does.
Browsing stewmac.com for parts and I found the answer to both questions:
Caps
• 0.050µF and .100µF are used for electric bass
• The higher the value, the more bass output from the tone control at its "zero" setting.
Pots
250K =warmer
500K =brighter
1 Meg = brightest
Usually, 250K pots are used with single-coil pickups and and 500Ks are used with humbuckers.
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CHANGING CAPS IS WAY OVERRATED - JUST LISTEN TO MOST VARITONE POTS. SOME ARE VERY USABLE TONES, SOME TONES ARE NICE TO HAVE BUT WILL NEVER USE.... THAT BEING SAID THE WRONG CAP WILL MAKE A BASS TOO TREBLEY OR TOO BASSY.....
I THINK CAPS ARE WAY MORE IMPORTANT ON GUITARS GENERALLY
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what is the pickup output of the artec versus the gibson.
My Artec measured 12.4K, and the TB+ soapies that I replaced it with measured 10.2K (which I think is on the hotter side as far as those go).
I agree that for a bass, changing the type of cap (ceramic disc vs. polypropylene film "orange drops", etc...) makes less difference to my ears than changing the value of the cap (which alters the frequency at which the tone circuit rolls off).
FWIW, I don't find that the brand of pots makes a noticable difference either with a bass. I see it as more of a tactile change - the way the pot feels when you turn it. I put CTS in my BaCH so the knobs would have that same clunky feel as my other Gibsons. I use 16mm and/or 24mm Alphas in my synth-related projects, since they match the smooth feel that you usually find there. I have some gear with sealed mil-spec Bourns and Spectrol pots that tend to feel fraile and "wobbly" by comparison, but supposedly have a longer lifespan, don't require cleaning, etc... At the end of the day, they all provide a variable resistance.
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i agree although a linear versus audio is a noticible difference but really only in how the volume or tone rolls off.
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i agree although a linear versus audio is a noticible difference but really only in how the volume or tone rolls off.
Yeah that is correct- the pot taper is important to consider along with the resistance value of the pot. The taper dictates how the resistance is distributed across the pot, and audio/logarithmic taper is better matched to the way our ears respond to volume changes. I think you can go either way with the tone pots, but you'll see audio taper used there a lot just because its simpler for a manufacturer to source the same pot for everything.
I haven't experimented with the different pot values mentioned above (250K, 500, etc...). I would expect that to have some perceptible impact to the sound.
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I stripped out the tone circuits from all of my basses... works for me...
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I have always opened up everything on the guitar...never needed a tone control, although I don't remove them.
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true for almost all my passive basses. I find that active basses without B & T controls i tend to use it much more - especially alembic pups and emg's on occassion......
i use my fingers for 99% of the time but the occasional pick tune i find myself toning down a bit even on passive basses with roundwounds.
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The cap value may affect the tone quite a bit, or the difference can be so small you won't really notice it. Just depends on the particular pickup and circuit.
The usual 250K pots for single coils/500K for humbuckers is a general guide for guitars, nothing more. As we've discussed here before, Gibson has used 300K linear taper volume pots on most humbucker models since 1973, not 500K audio taper as some think. Whatever works.
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According to a schematic dating from 1974 Gibson used a 500K volume and 250K tone pot with a .047 cap.
I did change the cap on mine to a .100 and it does make a pretty big difference, but it only when the tone control is set at or near to zero. If you always run the tone at 10 you won't see a difference at all.
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Mojo - is that on the artec pickup or did you replace it with something else.
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Funny you should ask. That was on the Artec, but after changing the caps and listening to the difference I did change the pickup to a S.D. Basslines soapbar I happened to have. Changing the pickup made very little difference at all.
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after hearing the Lull tbird pickup samples on his website i am craving them real bad. Very expensive so i guess that will depend on how much i like the bach when she shows up. seems to me most have kept the artecs in so i may be pleasantly surprised. I have sd soapbars in a few basses. the HB versions i find somewhat dark sounding which is not what a tbird is about. I put a cheapo china circuit in that bass ( brazilian made k smith lookalike - imbuia over mahogany) i got for about 15 on ebay and it made a big differnce in that bass. I will probably change cap and pot to 500 and see what that does first.
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Turn this up loud and run thru some good speakers............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj9LWATBgoc
It's my single pickup Lull wired with 500k pots and a .47 cap, my TH-1 is wired exactly the same and sounds pretty much like this too.
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those Lulls sound tremendous. I find it hard to believe the artecs sound close to that. I will have to follow you on this Mark . My redhead will be getting Lulled unless i am blown away by the stock pup.
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According to a schematic dating from 1974 Gibson used a 500K volume and 250K tone pot with a .047 cap.
I did change the cap on mine to a .100 and it does make a pretty big difference, but it only when the tone control is set at or near to zero. If you always run the tone at 10 you won't see a difference at all.
I would go with the schematic, at least as a starting point.
Maybe I should clarify, I was talking about Les Paul Standard guitar wiring, since that's been the typical 2 humbucker setup that others have copied. The conventional wisdom is that they have 500K audio taper volume pots when they actually have been 300K linear taper since 1973.
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I just bought some orig . gibby 300 k pots on evilbay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Genuine-GIBSON-potentiometers-300K-Audio-taper-pots-/270574293512?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3eff7c1208
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Some Gibson basses were wired with a 250K volume and a 300K tone pot. Among them L-9S Ripper, EB-3 and EB-3L Series 2, and the EB-4.
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Off topic here..........
Where's the "Q" E-5 AB set Avatar? ;)
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Mark that sounds awesome, sure ain't no Fender huh! :D
Are you playing with a pick on that track and is that just amp overdrive?
Love it!
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Mark that sounds awesome, sure ain't no Fender huh! :D
Are you playing with a pick on that track and is that just amp overdrive?
Love it!
Hey Dan,
I'm using my single pickup Lull with a pick, this was the first show I played with my Traynor YBA-200 all tube amp out 2 GK 4x10 SBX cabs. I'm not pushing the amp hard maybe half way, most of what you hear is coming from the FOH.
My BaCH does sound pretty much the same, and while I'm taking my time with it the Cherry TH-1 is getting the same - new Lull pup and pots + a custom painted black headstock.
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I finally bothered to take my TH-2 over for a setup (the neck had a tiny little dip in it around the 12th fret, which I'd never notice but Terry did) and Terry switched out the pots for CTS 250s. Man, it sounds great (more forceful with a lot more sustain) and while I was sitting in the shop playing with it a little crowd gathered around. It certainly catches people's eye!
I was thinking about these black Thunderbird pickups I have and because of the scarcity of the old style metal covers, I'm wondering if I can chrome plate these instead. They are plastic, right? If they are, are they the type of plastic which even can be chrome plated.
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I wonder if the spray can chrome paint would work on them? The auto parts stores usually lock up the chrome and gold spray paint because they are favorites for huffing. ;)
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It would take a lot of work to get just so - I tried a "gold" type on mine (PC rebuild) prior to the fin I settled on for the pups as it just did not work...
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Just a couple of Bach action shots from our outdoor gig last week with Bootsy & Da Funk!.
(http://www.jfhproductions.net/bachchooch.jpg)
(http://www.jfhproductions.net/bachchooch1.jpg)
(http://www.jfhproductions.net/bachchooch4.jpg)
The Bach souds good but I would like a little more output and clearity, I haven't opened mine up yet, what does it have for pots and what value cap is there? Are there any suggestions to what to install to make this thing roar with the stock pup's? At least untill I can grab a lull pup or 2?
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Seems like we are split between 500 or 250k on the pots. CTS is the high standard..... with the 2 pups the 500 might be overly brite but always easier to take away then add what is not there.......... usual cap is .47
Denis - as far as the painting the pups - imho really bad idea. huge headache
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Thank you very much, I'm on it!
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Hi Funkster, welcome to the club ;)
Try raising the pickups a little. You'll get more output and more growl.
The pots inside are kinda crappy to be honest.
I can recommend replacing them with CTS pots.
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The Bach souds good but I would like a little more output and clearity
The Artec in my bass measured around 12K, and had a bit of that "overwound" girth in the mids that I like. If you want more clarity, one thing that came to my mind is the fact that the Artecs have individual outs for the coils. Rather than do a coil-tap/single coil config, you might experiment with wiring the coils together in parallel rather than in series. That would probably drop the impedance to ~6K, and I imagine the sound would be less saturated in the mids and more clear. Maybe someone here has tried this?
I did this with an EB-0 (http://forums.vintageguitars.org.uk/showthread.php?t=1524), and my favorite setting (in addition to the stock mode) was the parallel-humbucker mode. You get the benefits of a humbucker, but with more of a clear/articulate single coil sound.
Just a thought- might be something to experiment with while you are in there.
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Awesome info guy's and it looks like a little brain salad surgery is in order for the weekend! lol
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just to further that option - think of a pbass as series versus a musicman as parallel. in mm basses it is active so not apples to oranges and placement is different but that is most comercially available comparison. If both were passive - the pbass will be hotter with great mids. the mm will be cleaner and lower volume , more "modern sounding especially with the 2 cricuit preamp.
if yours is the th-2 you could also go with the 2 pups in single coil humbucked together ( like a j bass) and the other sound the humbucked original one. (push pull pot or 2 way switch.
If you are really adventurous you could go with 2 three way switches and get all of the above but then you have to add 2 holes.
more to ponder!!!!!!
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Yesterday I've tested the BaCHBird TH-1 at Rob's office and it blew me away. So, I ordered one, but I prefer the TH-2 so I'll see. A TH-1 is also perfect for me, since I'm most probably gonna modify the Bird. Replacing the pickups and electronics and add a nice and subtile set of ChiSonic Humbuckers.
Happy! ;D
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-2-TRR.jpg)
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was it rob's white one or a red one that just showed up. if it was a new red one that is mine.)))))
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Haha, no it was the one I'm sending back because it didn't pass the "van den broek quality test".
I kid you not!
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so that bad one was supposed to be mine? If so that sucks but better i wait then get stuck with issues. maybe we have taxed them out.....
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No actually it was for someone else. Yours should arrive here soon.
I'll let you know when I have it here.
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Yesterday I've tested the BaCHBird TH-1 at Rob's office and it blew me away. So, I ordered one, but I prefer the TH-2 so I'll see. A TH-1 is also perfect for me, since I'm most probably gonna modify the Bird. Replacing the pickups and electronics and add a nice and subtile set of ChiSonic Humbuckers.
Happy! ;D
(http://www.superfloor.net/TH-2-TRR.jpg)
Peterb - you seem to be a big fan of chisonics. Are you getting them from hanson or directly from lakeland ( do they sell them?). How do they compare to the darkstars. I put one in a tracker bass and love it. Hanson qoutes only single coil. you talk about humbucks. as usual i am comfused....
I need some pups for a project (don't we all love projects....) and thinking about chisonics.
Thanks Jim
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Actually Peter and I have been brainstorming a bit...
The BaCHbird was initially meant to be upgraded by every new owner. Some of us here had a new pickguard installled and pots replaced. Some even refinned the while thing. etc
So when Peter showed up at my office last week with one of his creations wearing Chi-Sonics (single coils) we got thinking...
And yes there are Chi-Sonic humbuckers available too.
So how about a BaCHbird Deluxe with Chi-Sonic humbuckers and better pots...
There might be a market for those... :popcorn:
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as long as it comes in white......i'm in assuming i like the bachbird as much as the rest of you guys seem to.
Rob - any bachbird sighting????
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Still nothing. They must be piling up at customs somewhere ???
You are not the only one who's been waiting for quite some time... :sad:
This is the first time it takes them so long to get here.
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Ah the joys of being in biz for ones self, so much is out of your control.
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Still nothing. They must be piling up at customs somewhere ???
You are not the only one who's been waiting for quite some time... :sad:
This is the first time it takes them so long to get here.
Rob i just got a phone call and subsequent email for the duty from IBCCC for 64.99 so I guess my bird is near.....can't wait to give it a spin.....
looks like that cost is down some because of the Euro....
Jim
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Good news Jim
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Congratulations, Jimmy! You'll be surprised! And happy!
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Yes, you're in for a treat. I finally figured out the ergonomics of mine. With a bad shoulder, it's been kind of a chore to play the Bird much. My wife and I watched STP in Chicago on cable last week, and I decided to alter my method a little. Borrowing from Robert DeLeo, I decided to bring the bass back and to the side, and held the neck higher. Voila! Much better. I used it for a set with the new band on Saturday. Beast, I tell you, beast! It's going to be in the rotation more.
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hopefully any day now..... haven'thgeard back from the shipping compny since i paid my duty....
I have actually installed the ebay artecs in a project bass i have. Bass came from a guy in brazil making boutigue knockoffs sans hardware and electronics. I have a bunch of them if anyone is interested as i will never get to them all and they cost me around 300 each. Back to the pups - these are blades too but i don't think they are alnico magnets. i put 3 way switches on each.
my review - single coil - way too low out put and very noisy unless both volumes up full in humbuck like a j bass; parallel - good sound - clearer and softer than the barts took out to try these; series - clearly this is what they were made for - in your face HB sound and less dark than the barts. my favorite sound is the neck pickup in parallel and bridge in series - nice boost in bridge sound but with some added deep tone. Kind of like the early lakeland sound if you left the preamp flat.
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That's peculiar. The Artec in my BaCHbird can be switched to single coil too (with a push/pull pot). But it is not noisy at all. And it isn't weaker either. In fact in single coil mode the sound opens up a bit and seems to give me a little bit more highs and lows.
Maybe they sold you a "monday morning" one?
Or maybe the re-wiring wasn't done correctly?
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I am usually pretty good with wiring stuff. These have the same wire colors as a bart and i used the stew mac diagram. One thing i did was go with the outside coils versus the inside to get more distance.... This however should not have made a difference. On a pbass it does as one coil is the lead ( d, g) but i don't think that is the case in HB. also if that was the case the bridge pup in single coil would have been much louder. When i get a chance i will probably unhook one switch and hot wiring the single coil to the jack to see if the volme change much. any other ideas out there????
i used the diagram 4 and 5 on this page (reversed to get the outside coils only)
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lets try that again
http://www.bartolini.net/instructions/pickups/passive/switching/4cnd_sw1.pdf
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Just had the pots and output jack on my TH-1 replaced with CTS pots and while the difference is noticeable and definitely improves the sound, the change was much more noticeable on the TH-2. The sustain increased A LOT. Because I haven't had time to do it myself because of work, it was immensely satisfying to pick it up at the shop, plug it in an try it out. No one had seen anything like it before and a small crowd were standing around staring at it. It rocked!
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Rob still not bird sighting. they took my money and ran.... seriously though can you check from you end where it is and when it will show up.
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Here's what it says when I check your tracking code:
92 Injected into delivery network (NET)
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It now says: Delivered at frontdoor
:toast:
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hopefully any day now..... haven'thgeard back from the shipping compny since i paid my duty....
I have actually installed the ebay artecs in a project bass i have. Bass came from a guy in brazil making boutigue knockoffs sans hardware and electronics.
...a little off topic, but I've played enough Warrior basses to say that your knockoff needs only to play and sound half as good as a Mexi-Fender to best the real thing.
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The bird has landing. It took a while but it was waiting at my front door friday evening when i got home. Very nice bass. Well made and very pretty in an ugly kind of way. I will have to move the strap lock as recommended. Sounds pretty good in a one man band but i will have to take it out to a rehearsal and gig before i decide if the pickup stays. I will change the pots next weekend and AB against my 76 and other artec loaded bass. 500k pots the majority used???
here are the obligatory pictures of the bass
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/gibbachbird.jpg)
and a family portrait of the in line gibson clan...
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/gibtbirds.jpg)
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/gibtbirds2.jpg)
thanks to all you guys for turning me on this beauty and thanks to Rob for a job well done....
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That's a really nice shot of Mr and Mrs T-Bird. By the way, which one's the Mrs? I'm just curious so I won't make no mistake with my own B-bird...
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That's a really nice shot of Mr and Mrs T-Bird. By the way, which one's the Mrs? I'm just curious so I won't make no mistake with my own B-bird...
that would have to be the reverse bird. they are wired kind of that way.....
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Very nice, I love both mine. :) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/cherrybach76008.jpg)
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that would have to be the reverse bird. they are wired kind of that way.....
Ahhh......Me too :gay:
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That's interesting that there are some cherry ones with a black headstock and some with cherry. Any other differences?
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As far as I know there are just the red headstocks... Where did you see a black one?
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The one pictured above has the head in the shade. It might look a little black.
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The one pictured above has the head in the shade. It might look a little black.
The down angel of the headstock didn't get any of the flash generated light. it is the same bass in all 3 pictures. I wish the headstock was black.
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No pics to share just yet because it's not finished but I've airbrushed the headstock on my cherry TH-1 black - It looks quite good that way and was easy to do.
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The one pictured above has the head in the shade. It might look a little black.
Ah... If I'm not mistaken, the original (Gibson) burst NR's had a black headstock and the custom colored ones had a matching headstock. Again, with the BaCH bird, it's an 'anything goes' platform AFAIC. :)
Can't wait to see yours, Mark!
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Can't wait to see yours, Mark!
x2 ! The honeyburst TH-1s do have black headstocks though, don't they?
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The honeyburst TH-1s do have black headstocks though, don't they?
Yes they do.
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I am going to refinish in black the headstock of my cherry bachbird to make it similar to the original one. Do you know if any pickup cover is going to be available from greatdealz?
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Ah... If I'm not mistaken, the original (Gibson) burst NR's had a black headstock and the custom colored ones had a matching headstock. Again, with the BaCH bird, it's an 'anything goes' platform AFAIC. :)
Can't wait to see yours, Mark!
"Anything goes" goes farther back than that. Not all custom colored old sixties Non Rev TBs had a matching headstocks (but the majority did), some had black ones. I guess you could have either if you asked nicely back in the day.
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just got an affortable (???) pickup/bridge cover off feebay. height may be an issue but within reason that can be easily fixed.
we shall see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380248744016
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Please, tell us about how the pickup/bridge cover worked out! I've seen these for some time on the bay, but don't have any info about how they are. So, come on, tell us!
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I'm leaving a pic of my finished TH-1 here too, there's more in the Projects forum.
Thank you Scott! The new PG is a work of art and so obviously a labor of love - It simply makes the Bass! :thumbsup:
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/BaCHS024.jpg)
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Please, tell us about how the pickup/bridge cover worked out! I've seen these for some time on the bay, but don't have any info about how they are. So, come on, tell us!
bought one two years ago. tried it on an orginal Badass and a Schaller, it would not clear them! height was not sufficient for either. the cover looked good but if you want to use it, then try it over just the strings. i never did try it there i was so pi__ed off.
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After many trials and tribulations, I have received my BaCH. Many thanks to Rob for all his help! It was my bass that he sent back do to quality concerns and that set us back.
Mark, your bass looks awesome! I need to get busy with my modificatons( Lull pu, cts pots and hopefully one of Scott's guards)
Thanks to all who have helped me! Pictures soon.
Cheers,
Jim
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lull pups are backordered so i would order one soon. I am waiting about 3 weeks so far. they seem to be very popular..
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After many trials and tribulations, I have received my BaCH. Many thanks to Rob for all his help! It was my bass that he sent back do to quality concerns and that set us back.
Mark, your bass looks awesome! I need to get busy with my modificatons( Lull pu, cts pots and hopefully one of Scott's guards)
Thanks to all who have helped me! Pictures soon.
Cheers,
Jim
welcome to the bachbird group.. Now i am not the newest guy ))))
also Jim
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welcome to the bachbird group.. Now i am not the newest guy ))))
also Jim
Thanks Jim! I actually purchased my Lull PU in May when I ordered the bass, so I'm ready to get busy!!
Cheers,
Jim
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just got a tbird TRC off of feebay foir 12.99 plus 4 from a hong kong guy. they come with either gold or silver lettering. looks right. will let you know when it shows up..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320561125061
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I was actually thinking of buying one of these truss rod covers but I was a little suspicious about them. I was looking at the sellers feedback and a few people had complained that some of the other truss rod covers he was offering weren't accurate but some people had good things to say so I wasn't sure if I should go for it. The placement of the logo looks a little off to me but I don't really care about that as much as the actual fit and size of it. I want to know if it's accurate in those regards. The price is really good and the shipping is also reasonable. I have seen more authentic looking ones go for around $40 so this is a good deal if it fits right. I might actually go for it since it's so cheap.
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a few people had complained that some of the other truss rod covers he was offering weren't accurate
Are you concerned about the accuracy of the fake TRC you wanna put on your fake T-Bird?
:rolleyes:
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Ha ha ha... Yeah, of course. No, seriously though, I want to make sure it fits on the headstock the right way. For the most part at least. If it's too big, trimming it down would be easy but if it's too small then I can't do anything about it. I think I am going to go for it though.
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A valid concern.
My BaCH's TRC screw holes didn't line up at all and while the TRC does bear some resemblance to the Gibson, it's only a pssing one. An orginal Gibson (or one exactly patterned) TRC will fit a BaCH and cover the factory holes (you'll end up drilling two new ones)
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I bought it. I'm pretty sure I am going to refinish my Bachbird at this point anyway so I'm not too concerned about the holes since they will be filled anyway. I am switching out the pickguard too so I will have to fill those holes too.
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Today I put LaBella flats on my black TH-1. I've wanted to do that for a while but never got around to it. It sounds AWESOME with those things! Maybe it's that the flats themselves are a little quieter than the rounds but I swear the bass sounds a little more gritty. I'm glad I finally tried it out!
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I bought it. I'm pretty sure I am going to refinish my Bachbird at this point anyway so I'm not too concerned about the holes since they will be filled anyway. I am switching out the pickguard too so I will have to fill those holes too.
Have you got the TRC yet? I'm pretty curious about these...
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Yes, I just got it yesterday. I don't have an original one to compare it to but it seems to look and fit great. It doesn't fit the the holes from the stock Bachbird one but we already knew it wouldn't so that's not a surprise. Worth the money and it's a lot cheaper than the authentic ones that I have seen going for $45. I got the one with the chrome lettering, I know the originals were gold but I liked the chrome one better.
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They have the TH-2 also in Dark Honeyburst now
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/bez-nazvu-7-f-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/znazvu-1-kopie-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/bez-nazvu-l6-kopie-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/bez-nazviu-5-kopie-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/bez-nazvu-o4-kopie-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?cache=product-det/bez-nazvu-3-koopie-jpg.)
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Dang, that's beautiful! Much prettier than the first, lighter incarnation of the Honeyburst.
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Yes, I agree the darker version is much better.
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Odd man out here. I like the lighter one better. The fact that it has a single pickup makes it even more attractive to me. I hope to pick one up at some point.
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I do like the dark, are they back to the thin body ?
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Thats looks great.
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I love the Honeyburst. It looks like I won't be needing a TH-2 in my future, though. 8)
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There are 123 pages and this thread was read over 36,000 times, I give up, what's a baCHbird?
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There are 123 pages and this thread was read over 36,000 times, I give up, what's a baCHbird?
A non reverse thunderbird clone made by a czech company named Bach..
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Cheque Republic, one of those shops that converts your wages to
crack cash.
:o :o :o
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There are 123 pages and this thread was read over 36,000 times, I give up, what's a baCHbird?
Actually it's B and CH Musik. Thus, the odd spelling of BaCH.
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finally got around to getting the bachbird TH-1 gig ready. My company, GE, has shut down photobucket for me so i will have to post some pictures from my home but here are some details..
New chinese TRC. Gold Gibson - somewhat larger than the Bach version so none of the screws lines up but looks pretty good. Any ideas how to get the Bach name removed from the headstock besides the paint or electrical tape..
Nice new set of Labella Hard Rock RW. 45-105 . neck needed significant tightening to handle the strings as the bach strings are really thin chinese stuff... originall tried to put a different set on (the brand with the 4 color ends GHS? but the e string had steps that where giving the nut pulling issues) I have loved Labella deep talking strings since 83 when i stopped using rotos except for my rics but have never tried the Hard Rocking. Got them from Imperialguitars when i ordered some flats just because they have a tbird on the cover and there were on sale.. I like them alot. first real test is tonight at a studio with one of my groups thru an SVT. this group plays the heaviest stuff I do ( Zepp, Cactus, humble Pie, Hendrix) and tunes down to Eb so the 105 works well....
Lull Pickup -
Replaced the pickup and new CTS 500K pots and good quality wire. As i was taking out the old stuff the ground wire came sliding right out without any resistance so I am sure it was not ever connected. Bass used to buzz slightly but i asumed it was just the bach pups in combination with my florescent lights in my workshop.. I didn't want to pull out the "gromets" from the body and ruin the finish so i decided to drill a new channel to the stop piece more like a fender bridge. Rather uneventfull - thank god....
Next was the pickup - slightly longer and wider than the bach pup. The body route was big enough but much deeperthan needed. Used some hard rubber (about 5/8) in the body and then fender softer rubber on the back of the pickup to give it flexibility for now. I will have to fill in the rout some like mark's basses had done to give it some more teeth for the screws and maybe height if needed.... The pickguard is where the different sizes show up. so i attacked with the dremel. It turns out the original guard was never fitted correctly as it was slightly twisted and the little tails by the neck stood up a little on the e string side. That got addressed of course after i had resized it so a little space resulted. i happened to order the ring with the pickup in anticipation of adding a bridge pup so i installed as an easy fix for now till i get around to getting a new PG from Scott. I know it is incorrect but it looks really good with the ring. the chrome just jumps out.
Then i plugged it in to my little old univox amp in my workshop. NOW THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING TO HEAR. The bass just opened up and sang to me.... I can't say whether it was the pickup more than the pots (as some have said it made a huge difference ) but the combination with some real strings was amazing. I highly recommend......
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used it at rehearsal tonight...i was not disappointed. the lull pickup is tremendous. I only have a 76 Bird to compare it too and it is night and day. the 76 is thinner and brighter. this pickup is really thick sounding but clean. i did notice that the bass had some buzz when the back was towards the amp only so i will try copper shielding on the cover.
some pics
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/BACHTUNEUP.jpg)
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/BACHTUNEUP2.jpg)
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/BACHTUNEUP4.jpg)
only the camera and my hand in the reflection. and i am dressed.....
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/Gibson/BACHTUNEUP3.jpg)
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and i am dressed.....
LOL
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I'm so glad you've tried the Lull pup!
Now I'm not the only one to know effing good they really are ;)
Only thing I did different was CTS 250K pots and a .047 cap, which is exactly what Mike used on my single pup Lull.
Awesome bass! Congratulations :thumbsup:
"and i am dressed....."
ROFL!
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So Mark (in Seattle) 2 questions if you please.
1. Are there any differences between the Bridge and Neck pups on the original 60's birds?
if so
2. Does Mike make them in pairs or are they all the same?
I'm in the process of ordering a TH-2 Dark Honeyburst from Rob and I'm in a few minds as to how I should go with the pups.
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So Mark (in Seattle) 2 questions if you please.
1. Are there any differences between the Bridge and Neck pups on the original 60's birds?
if so
2. Does Mike make them in pairs or are they all the same?
I'm in the process of ordering a TH-2 Dark Honeyburst from Rob and I'm in a few minds as to how I should go with the pups.
there are many more gibson experts on outpost but i believe that the original 60's were the same. I don't think anyone back then thought about string tension.....
the lulls are sold individually or in pairs and you need to specify which you want - neck or bridge.
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I'm so glad you've tried the Lull pup!
Now I'm not the only one to know effing good they really are ;)
Only thing I did different was CTS 250K pots and a .047 cap, which is exactly what Mike used on my single pup Lull.
Awesome bass! Congratulations :thumbsup:
I went with a .047 cap. I used the 500K because traditionally.....blah blah blah. i will now have to try out the 250k. Mike seems to be the tbird expert so i trust his opinion.
I will probably add a second pickup now that i know how great they are.
or maybe save the 2 pickup setup for a fenderbird?
decisions...
Jim
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So Mark (in Seattle) 2 questions if you please.
1. Are there any differences between the Bridge and Neck pups on the original 60's birds?
if so
2. Does Mike make them in pairs or are they all the same?
I'm in the process of ordering a TH-2 Dark Honeyburst from Rob and I'm in a few minds as to how I should go with the pups.
Mike does make them as pair Brett. The '63 that he used to prototype was an exceptional one with (IIRC) an 8k neck and 9k bridge set of pups, so that's exactly how he sells them when purchased as a pair.
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Thanks guys/gal. :)
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"Thanks guys/gal."
It was about time we had some political correctness here!
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:P ;) Oxymoron. Political and correctness. How is it even possible to put these words side by side?
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You both just did... :P
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Thanks guys/gal. :)
I'm doing my best to keep some king of girlie prescence going on her......... ;)
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Greetings all!Heres a pick of my Bach bird.Its a killer bass and sounds just as good as my 64 Epiphone Embassy.I want another one.I have done a couple of things to it so far.Painted the face of the peghead,Kluson tuners,Gibby TRC,repro bridge pickup surround ring.I love the stock pickups.There quite and have a really nice punch to them.I bought this bass on a wim off e-bay a couple of months back and have not regretted it.It Freakin Smokes!!!!
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Ok, How do you post bigger pics?? LOL.
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i'll try this again(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/66TbirdIV064.jpg)
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(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/66TbirdIV033.jpg)
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Welcome to the club Weekend Warrior.
Nice to see another personalized BaCHbird!
(BTW you have email)
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Welcome here!
Your BaCHbird is looking good, I like the painted headstock too! :thumbsup:
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Welcome to the club, even if I'm about to leave the elite BaCHBird owner's guild...
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Nice bass! Welcome to the club. ;D
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Welcome! That red bass is sure looking good! I've got a blue one, but if I had had the choice, then I would have picked a red one. The blue one looks cool, but that red one sure looks hot!
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(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/66tbird001.jpg)Thanks for your kind greetings all.I like the red too.Its a nice mid 60's Gibby throw back color.How come your leaving the Bach club Gweimer.Got a buyer for your yet?Sorry i couldnt resist throwing another pic up :mrgreen:
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(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/camping028.jpg)This is the bass that got me into the Gibson thing.My 64 Embassy.Being a rick/jazz bass guy all my life,it opened up a whole new world for me.It has no neck dive and plays and sounds unreal.I've always loved the Gibson Tbird look especially and oddly enough,the non over the reverse.My Bach bird sounds almost identical to my Embassy.Scary close.Heres a couple of pics of my other basses i have. I havent taken a family photo yet.I keep adding on to the family so i havent done it yet. Got a 66 Jazz coming shortly(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/7273rick4001s007.jpg)(http://)(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/sqwelchbass/fender004.jpg)
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Having regained my '63 Embassy, I'm finding the BaCHBird a bit redundant. I've decided to finally put a real pickguard on mine. I have a repro coming, and just ordered the screws, and a set of white chick knobs for mine.
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:rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:
See also - Back in my arms again.
It's all good! Email sent. Be glad that this didn't morph into a discussion of anal sex. It happens here. More than it probably should. We're an odd and accepting bunch of Gibson freaks. Except for me. I fly the Epi freak flag high. Just ask Dave. :toast:
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Hey, I never bring "it" up......... You "straight" people sure do a lot ;)
Endless enjoyment
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Hey, I never bring "it" up......... You "straight" people sure do a lot ;)
That sounds like something a fluffer would say. ;D
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That sounds like something a fluffer would say. ;D
Yes! ;) Although I've never heard that term before.........Local parlance is always fun :gay:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer
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Denis! Where the ---- did you learn that word? Fluffer!
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I heard it only recently for the first time and thought it was hilarious!
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Never heard of a fluffer.... Are you guys NEW or somethin? LOL!
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I fly the Epi freak flag high. Just ask Dave. :toast:
I noticed you've been waving it a lot lately. ;)
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There are worse jobs you know-
Being a "Fluffer" at a zoo for example
http://www.shsweb.fi/forum/1/17414/17425/
The chimpanzees always want to be hugged afterwards. The elephant is the most tricky because of the size of its thing... sometimes I have to use both my arms to tug on it."
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/misc/1113874_3d48_625x1000.jpg)
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Puts a whole new spin on an actor "fluffing their lines..."
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"sometimes I have to use both my arms to tug on it."
Haha now there's a signature line! ;D
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I think one of the most frightening (?) things I have ever seen was part of a David Attenborough documentary that had footage of wild elephants mating... puts a whole new outlook on the expression, "hung like a ......" :o
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BaCH now makes a Barebones BaCHbird for the hobbyists among us:
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=4688.msg74381
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sigh one more thing to buy................................ seriously they look great.
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I am the expectant owner of a Dark Honeyburst TH-2. Rob tells me that it is on its way to me. Better late than not at all. I did get on the BaCHbird bus very late in the story. At least I get the colour I really wanted. Have to say I was very tempted by the trans Cherry ones though.
Cant wait! ;D
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took a chance on some more chrome for the bachbird. figured for $12 i will give it a try...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=230545109083&si=tZ3tqRK3xkqs8vraGG%252FTKobPM%252BY%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AX%3ASCO%3AUS%3A1123
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That's different... 8)
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UPS tells me its at my post office. Pick it up in the morning :)
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I think your going to like it! ;)
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Sad to say she has taken a knock in transit :-\ the neck/body join has hairline cracks down the side, back and along either side of the fingerboard on the body. It was very well packed so it must have been a decent whack. I have to get off to work but I will take some pics when I get home. I'll take it into my luthier and get him to give it a good check.
The bass itself is simply gorgeous. beautiful wood grain. The bridge is so much better than it looks in photo's. Not that it looks bad in photo's. I'm just surprised how cool it really is. The neck is fatter than I expected but feels great to play. It has a nice consistent "C" shape to it. Its width is perfect for me.
During a quick play through my Nemesis 250 15" I was amazed at how "Classic Rock" this bass sounds even with the Artecs.
Not sure what strings are on it but they only get a 5/10 from me. Will replace these before I start adjusting things.
Very nice bass indeed
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Oh man, that's not good at all... I hope you can work out the solution that makes you happiest.
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Ouch! It seems more serious than you told me in the email. :sad:
Please keep the box and all the packaging stuff. We are going to need it to get insurance money...
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No worries Rob, I took some pics but they didnt come out very good so I will have another attempt later. My gut tells me that the wood has flexed rather than broken and is most likely fine but the Acrylic being more brittle has cracked around the join.
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It somehow felt better to elongate this already record breaking thread than to start a new one.
I get my Bachbird back from my luthier hopefully next week.
There seems to be two trains of thought from my reading the comments of the people who have bought these basses.
1. One is that its a great bass already and to keep it as is, a modern tribute to a great and rare instrument from the past. But still its own instrument.
2. To mod the bass so it becomes more of a Gibson NR replica.
I decided on the second option which meant that I had to do/get a few changes done like Belly cutaway on the back, Black headstock face, reverse tuners (Gotoh reso-lites), white tusq nut. I already have the new PG. In a few weeks I will order a pair of Lulls. I need to get a thumb rest, I missed out when they were offered around earlier. Wish I'd grabbed a tailpiece as well.
The neck on mine has a heel behind the nut. This is obviously to add mass and strength to the "break" area. Personally I think this is a good idea even though its not regulation replica stuff.
Its also rather a chunky neck compared to any other T-Bird I've played which is a little disapointing as I have the impression that the real thing has a very slim neck.
I know a few of you like Scott and Mark bought two BB's. Have you guys Gibson-ised either of your basses or have you kept them as Bach's?
How are people who bought these basses going with them now that they have become part of your bass wardrobe?
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Well, I got mine, and the only thing I did was to change the volume pot, and I dropped an old Gibson pickup into it. When I sold it to Carlo, he seemed happy with what I did. I think he was originally planning to do some changes and swap some parts. Carlo?
Really, the first run was more than adequate right out of the box.
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As a player (the bass that is) I have to say that mine which would be one of the later ones is the same Gary. Very respectable player straight out of the box indeed. The sound of the Lulls aside, most of my changes are aesthetic.
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How are people who bought these basses going with them now that they have become part of your bass wardrobe?
I just got back from a rehearsal with mine. I could swear its getting better the more time goes on, and the more I use it - maybe its "settling in"? Whatever that means. I dunno, probably just me. In any case - I absolutely love it!
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/thunderbird/DSCF8013.jpg)
This one was of the second batch. Thin body w/contour, and neck is slender - much like that of my '76. It has TB+ pickups, so sound is somewhat reminiscent of a Tbird of today (if it were partly maple and "mystery mahogany").
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maybe its "settling in"? Whatever that means
I had the same experience with my Robin Ranger ...... There's a theory ( which IMO sounds very plausibel ) that sometimes you'll need to play open the pores in the wood before the instrument will reach its full potential, the process should be more audible on basses with thin necks.
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Its also rather a chunky neck compared to any other T-Bird I've played which is a little disapointing as I have the impression that the real thing has a very slim neck.
That is one thing that puzzled me too about your bass. It is the only BaCHbird I've seen that had the volute and the chunkier neck.
With every batch of BaCHbirds BaCH seems to feel the need to change something; The second batch didn't have the belly cut. But the body was substantially thinner than the body of the first batch. There was a series that had a different angle between body and neck (which resulted in a lower set bridge). Your bass obviously had the volute plus chunkier neck.
And a month ago I sent a BaCHbird to Japan that had an arm contour...
As for changes made to my own BaCHbird.
I made a new pickguard.
I added a Gibson Bicentennial pickup at the bridge. I placed a chrome cover over the Artec pickup.
I replaced the pots. The volume pot for the Artec is a push pull pot, allowing me to switch to single coil when desired.
And of course there's still the BaCHbird Deluxe. A one off pilot. A Transparant Red BaCHbird with Chi-Sonics, new wiring with CTS pots and switchcaft jackinput. New pickguard. And Res-O-Lite machine heads.
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I have 2, the first run White from Gary and second run Honeyburst from Saltydog. I painted the headstock black on the Honeyburst and made a more correct TR cover. I used it as a test bed for some 60's Tbird pups. The bridge needed some work because the strings hit the back of it due to the notched saddles on the second run basses. Recut the nut. Now plays great and the finish is excellent. Once I reassemble it I'm going to sell it because...
The white bass with it's thinner body, belly cut and unnotched saddles is a lot nicer. I'll probably keep it, may refin it the correct shade of Polaris white, including headstock. TR cover is already made. The late 60's pup in it has become part of the repro project, either it or a repro will go back in it. Maybe use the bridge and tailpiece from my Embassy and Hipshot Ultralites. Not high on the to do list. My 64 IV and '65 II pretty much satisfy my TBird needs. I play one or both every day.
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Rob, you say "I placed a chrome cover over the Artec pickup". Now, where did you get hold of such a thing? :o
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I meant the actual pickup casing. Not the handrest.
Greatdealz on Ebay used to have them. But I think he ran out of pickup casings.
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I know what you meant, Rob. Just thought it would look kinda nice with a rounded T-bird pup look, instead of the rectangular one. I'll keep an eye out for Greatdealz. Thanks!
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I hope you guys are documenting all these first and second run variations and how to identify them. Otherwise Last Outpost users in 20 years time are going to be having some terrible arguments.
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I meant the actual pickup casing. Not the handrest.
Greatdealz on Ebay used to have them. But I think he ran out of pickup casings.
yes they are all gone... >:(
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First thing to do is change the crappy strings..... I tried out labella hard rockin steels and i like them a lot. Upgraded the pots and changed out the pup to a lull. had to reground the bridge as it wasn't attached. next was to file down the saddles. As it stands now it plays better and sounds better than my 76 bird...
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I just got back from a rehearsal with mine. I could swear its getting better the more time goes on, and the more I use it - maybe its "settling in"? Whatever that means. I dunno, probably just me. In any case - I absolutely love it!
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/thunderbird/DSCF8013.jpg)
This one was of the second batch. Thin body w/contour, and neck is slender - much like that of my '76. It has TB+ pickups, so sound is somewhat reminiscent of a Tbird of today (if it were partly maple and "mystery mahogany").
My favorite Bach / NR I've seen yet!
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First thing to do is change the crappy strings..... I tried out labella hard rockin steels and i like them a lot. Upgraded the pots and changed out the pup to a lull. had to reground the bridge as it wasn't attached. next was to file down the saddles. As it stands now it plays better and sounds better than my 76 bird...
Hmmmmm..... Would you trade the '76 for a BaCH (w/ a Lull) ?
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So I haven't gigged my Bachbird in over a year. It's been my "office bass" for the past several months, so I haven't played it plugged in for some time. I decided to bring it to band practice last night and WOW, does that thing sound good! It's like someone said about the real ones - best sounding P-Bass you ever heard! Man, talk about attitude. It's a one trick pony for sure, but it's a great trick! I'll be using it for a set this weekend. FYI - I've got a late model TB+ on there. Used to be black plastic, now it's shiny chrome. ;D
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I took two BaCHs to the gig today: The EB2 long scale and the BaCH Deluxe.
The EB2 copy never stood a chance. I tried it in the first set, but switched to the BB DLX soon.
That BB DLX is a killer bass.
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what a great thread! lots to think about though ;)
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I haven't gigged mine yet but since it came back from having a few mods I haven't stopped playing it. At home, at practice. Its got a lot of character, both in a feel sense and its sound and has that "play me" quality about it. I wasn't sure about the neck at first. Rob tells me mine is a bit thicker than most other peoples. (I've had comments like that before I got a BaCHBird :-\ ;D ) But now I'm finding it a great pleasure to play. Cant wait for the ThunderBuckers to arrive.
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Hi all, i hope it's ok to reactivate this old thread...
Here's my question (I bet this has been discussed a thousand times before - so sorry for that but it's hard to find the answers somewhere in a 150 pages long thread)
Please forgive me - I'm a newbie :rolleyes:
-I wonder what the differences of the 2 (or 3?) runs are? IIRC, I read about different neck angles... I also read about the body thickness. Could you enlighten me about this? I am thinking about getting my hands on a Bach NRTbird and I really want one with a thin body - like the 60's originals (I never had one in my hand though - I just prefer the look) Are the newer ones thin ???
-I found out about the Thunderbucker pickups which look very promising - are there other options or is it the way to go?
For your interest: I mailed Bach with a question regarding their non finished Tbird NR. I asked them if I could get one without the back cavity routing since it looks not right to me. They replied within a minute saying that there will be an unfinished, blank one without any routing available in March/April 2012. I hope I understand it right and this info is correct.
Cheers,
M.
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This is a great thread, so no worries about bringing it up again!
The first 20 BaCH NRs were all white but I can't remember if they had belly cuts. I believe they were thick bodied.
The second set of 30 were all thin bodied with a belly cut. There were 10 white, 10 black and 10 Sonic Blue in that series. These had nice, thin necks.
The third series (up to current) were all thick bodied with no belly cut and were available in single and dual pups. The Honeybursts were all single pup but the Trans Cherry were available in both single and dual pups. A little later dual pup Hneybursts were available. These had slightly thicker necks.
Do I have all this right, Rob?
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This is a great thread, so no worries about bringing it up again!
The first 20 BaCH NRs were all white but I can't remember if they had belly cuts. I believe they were thick bodied.
The second set of 30 were all thin bodied with a belly cut. There were 10 white, 10 black and 10 Sonic Blue in that series. These had nice, thin necks.
The third series (up to current) were all thick bodied with no belly cut and were available in single and dual pups. The Honeybursts were all single pup but the Trans Cherry were available in both single and dual pups. A little later dual pup Hneybursts were available. These had slightly thicker necks.
Do I have all this right, Rob?
Ok - so it looks like someone has to sell me his/her second run bass :mrgreen:
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Someone sold a black one on eBay a few weeks ago but I don't know if it was anyone here. One of the white ones went on eBay a few weeks before that and I believe it was an LBOer's bass. THey are really nice.
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The black one was Shadocastaz's.
I'm willing to part with this one but shipping to Germany would be pretty high. Thin, belly cut, ThunderBucker pup. 2nd run.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/NR%202012/P1040958.jpg)
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That is pretty interesting!!!
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I would love to get my hands on it. I have a GAS attack right now.
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And I have a cherry one that's for sale too, Lull pup and a very *custom* PG.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/basses2/basses2002.jpg)
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I had a little talk about shipping costs etc. with dadagoboi... it looks like it would be the best to buy one here in the EU. But many thanks for the offers!
My favourite B-bird modification ever is the chromium one:
(http://www.hillscloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/bach24.jpg)
So, so nice.
One day I'll own one just like this. :)
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That one is beautiful.
I have a reject BaCHbird here that I never sent to a customer because there's a small blemish in the finish. I'm going to have it refinned in Pelham Blue. And I'm going to put a correct pickguard with bird logo on it too. But I'm not going all the way with chrome covers and fingerrest etc.
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What??? you have to at least get the chrome covers for the pickups.
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Now, Rob, are we getting closer to the bone; the pickup covers! I've told you guys all about it, time and time again, about my hopeless search for neck pup covers. And so I read your lines here, that you're not sure whether you're gonna put the pup covers on or not!
Now, in my world that's more than an indication of pup covers existence somewhere, and furthermore, it seems as it's possible to get them somewhere?
Oh, where, oh where can them covers be? Did The Lord take them away from me? Do I have to go to heaven, do I have to be good, to get my covers and a-leave this world???
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Haha, I'm sure they do exist.
But I'm not going to bother with it. ;)
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...in my world that's more than an indication of pup covers existence somewhere, and furthermore, it seems as it's possible to get them somewhere?
Oh, where, oh where can them covers be?
Assuming they existed, how many would you want, Stjofon?
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I know Chris P scored one a while ago.
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Yep, on US eBay. I think they aren't on offer anymore...
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I think Clint (Stiles72) is working on some bridge and pickup covers..........Maybe worth a PM.
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Yes- I've been working with a local metal shop to come up with a new handrest for my Epi Blue Bird. The chrome Ebay cover I currently have is sized for a Gibson which is narrower and it doesn't quite fit right on my Epi bird. I still need to do some tweaking to the design, but thought I would share the first attempt:
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj401/stiles72/thunderbird/epipupcover-101003.jpg)
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj401/stiles72/thunderbird/epipupcover-101005.jpg)
Ebay cover on my Epiphone:
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj401/stiles72/Bluebird/LULLPUPS035.jpg)
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Hey, Carlo and you other guys: Three (3) neck pup covers is what I would be satisfied with. Really satisfied, that is!
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I'm not involved but I do know of some efforts being made. So maybe 2012 will see an end to your quest.
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Bach is now selling last three Bachbirds-1 at discount price. Only black and cherry are available. I have already a white TH-1 and a cherry TH-2 and too many basses very little played.....GAS is growing
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Holy cow, where did that black one come from?
I kinda want it!
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I am very tempted myself to buy her. Price is very good and shipping to Italy inexpensive. I must resist.
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Holy cow, where did that black one come from?
I kinda want it!
The body has an armcut.
When BaCH introduced that feature, the sales of the Thunderbirds started to slow down.
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Not surprised. What Thunderbird players want is a accurate rendition. Yours and Bachs are the closest we have seen. I had my Honeyburst Bach NR out this weekend I have it strung BEAD for some low stuff. It was absolutely killer, You should have seen the look on the bands faces when I hit the low C for Bon Jovi's It's My Life.
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"It's My Life"...we play it...what a fun song....it gets the whole bar singing along.
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Not surprised. What Thunderbird players want is a accurate rendition. Yours and Bachs are the closest we have seen.
That's why I hated it when they introduced the armcut.
I had my Honeyburst Bach NR out this weekend I have it strung BEAD for some low stuff. It was absolutely killer, You should have seen the look on the bands faces when I hit the low C for Bon Jovi's It's My Life.
:toast:
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I resisted to temptation and now last black is gone. I am sad and my wife is smiling.
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I resisted to temptation and now last black is gone. I am sad and my wife is smiling.
:mrgreen: