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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: ilan on March 27, 2009, 04:51:47 AM
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Another one-off SPC (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003SPC-MG-BT-CB-experimental-model_W0QQitemZ250396032372QQihZ015QQcategoryZ41439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) from ric-outlet... the body wings were originally made for a 4002.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!BPPQ!lgCGk~$(KGrHgoOKiwEjlLmE-R)BJyoqHqn1g~~_12.JPG)
A rare white '72 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Rickenbacker-4001-very-rare-checkered-binding_W0QQitemZ320353311833QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) with checkerboard binding, missing treble pickup surround:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BPPcW,gB2k~$(KGrHgoOKkQEjlLmTodMBJypNMLqGQ~~_1.JPG)
A restored/refinished '69 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Rare-L-K_W0QQitemZ220383533159QQihZ012QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem):
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/6208617/aview/69front.JPG)
There's also a Shadow and a nice Azureglo with a reasonable BIN price.
No affiliation to any of those.
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That birdseye one is really cool.
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Yow! The 4003SPC MG/BT/CB is super nice.
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Yow! The 4003SPC MG/BT/CB is super nice.
Ditto
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Yeah, the price on that SPC is going to get nutty. Too bad about the black hardware. :-\
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I just snagged an old Ric pickup off Ebay, and am also bidding on a Ric wiring harness. Next project bass is about ready to begin. Combo of Les Paul and Ric ideas.
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I just snagged an old Ric pickup off Ebay, and am also bidding on a Ric wiring harness. Next project bass is about ready to begin. Combo of Les Paul and Ric ideas.
Sounds like a winner!
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I just snagged an old Ric pickup off Ebay, and am also bidding on a Ric wiring harness. Next project bass is about ready to begin. Combo of Les Paul and Ric ideas.
Maybe you can combine an exploding "R" tailpiece with a snapping mahogany headstock. :mrgreen:
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Maybe you can combine an exploding "R" tailpiece with a snapping mahogany headstock. :mrgreen:
LOL! This bass is going have the Schaller 460 bridge I've been saving.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-RICKENBACKER-4001-bass-AUTUMNGLO-w-rare-binding_W0QQitemZ150341527746QQihZ005QQcategoryZ118984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Drop-dead gorgeous Walnut 4001, double bound (inner white, outer black), black TRC and guard. Looks a lot like the Walnut 4002 prototype on the Smith book (p.211).
Ted Staberow over at the RRF says that it's a Walnut 4001 with double binding and that RIC has made a few like that. Still I think there's something special about this one, and it could be some sort of a test instrument. The non-stamped jack plate, the beveled edge guard (4002's had beveled edge guards), and what looks like a beveled-edge Plexi TRC.
(http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/products/lg/1240694985IMG_5547.JPG)(http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/products/lg/1240694986IMG_5548.JPG)(http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/products/lg/1240695030IMG_5561.JPG)
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I even like the black trim on that one. I have to agree with you, that must be some sort of special experiment.
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Maybe you can combine an exploding "R" tailpiece with a snapping mahogany headstock. :mrgreen:
Haha! You remember the famous exploding "R" tailpiece too? Now that was funny ;D
I love that all white 72, my favorite Rick color combination.
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That walnut ric is very sexy.
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I have learned that RRF member Bryce Gracey was its previous owner, he posted this:
"i bought the bass from the original owner, he had a friend from Ric that helped him put the finish package together.
i'm not sure how it skipped a serial # - pssibly due to the shop worker passing it off directly to his friend?"
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Two fivers (no affil.):
'88 4003S/5 Mapleglo/BT (http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-RICKENBACKER-4003S-5-BASS-GUITAR-4003-FIVE-STRING_W0QQitemZ290314065185QQihZ019QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) and '98 S/5 White/BT (http://cgi.ebay.com/1998-Rickenbacker-4003S5-5-String-Bass-Guitar-Near-Mint_W0QQitemZ280340031029QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/44/fc/67c1_3.JPG)(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/sunburstlp/1998Rickenbacker4003s5White023.jpg)
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The mapleglo is extra nice but I just couldn't live with that super-narrow string spacing.
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The mapleglo is extra nice but I just couldn't live with that super-narrow string spacing.
+1
Mapleglo looks so much better with black plastic, though I prefer chrome metal.
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Not a bass but still a cool Ric: '56 Combo 400 in Cloverfield Green (http://cgi.ebay.com/1956-RICKENBACKER-Combo-400-very-rare-CLOVERFIELD-GREEN_W0QQitemZ150345428778QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2301492f2a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:10|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50). Tons of pics as usual with Olivia's.
(http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/products/lg/1238788262IMG_4078.JPG)
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Now that's something you don't see everyday. :o
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GREAT color!
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Looks like a bunny rabbit
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^ ;D
It's known as a tulip body.
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Whoah... that's different... not in a bad way either... :mrgreen:
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4002 in Mapleglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-GUITAR-INCREDIBLE-CONDITION-RARE_W0QQitemZ140321260282QQihZ004QQcategoryZ41439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem). Insane asking price. According to the seller, a recent set-up included "Tremolo mechanism cleaning and adjustment."
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/1/0/5/5/4/webimg/266708162_o.jpg)
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Does he think the bridge is a Bigsby?
Do you know of any that have sold for even half that much? You never know, though, they're rare enough that some collector just might go for it.
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Does he think the bridge is a Bigsby?
Do you know of any that have sold for even half that much? You never know, though, they're rare enough that some collector just might go for it.
The trem part I think was a template text he probably uses on his guitar auctions.
The asking price is insane and I have never heard of a 4002 being sold for anything remotely close to $16K. OTOH some buyers never disclose the prices they paid so I guess anything is possible. I wouldn't pay half that price even for Geddy's personal 4002.
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I still think 4002's were cosmetically challenged.
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From the same seller: '60 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4000-1960-BASS-GUITAR-EXTREMELY-RARE_W0QQitemZ140321258243QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item20abcc7b03&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:10|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50). Asking nearly $30K, but drooling over the pics is free.
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/1/0/5/5/4/webimg/266688138_o.jpg)
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He's only going to give us one week to bid on it at that price. :rolleyes:
Although he doesn't give the amount of Gruhn's appraisal, I wouldn't be surprised if Gruhn is still trying to prop up the vintage market with "collector grade" appraisals -- and based only on photos, not first hand evaluations. One way or another, reality will eventually win out.
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OTOH 4000's are not cosmetically challenged ;D.
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That '60 4000 is a nice piece of wood....& she's givin' me wood!
...& she ain't even lefty. :P
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You know, with a beater Cheyenne or Laredo, and some work...
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White/BT S/5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003S-5-5-String-Bass_W0QQitemZ260427156582QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3ca2ab0c66&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50):
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BUM)g!gBmk~$(KGrHgoOKiMEjlLmVzhzBKMTtUzV9Q~~_1.JPG)
And two nice double-bound 4003's: one in Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-bass-guitar_W0QQitemZ280356489508QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item41468c8924&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!BUFhHZg!mk~$(KGrHgoH-EYEjlLl0H2jBKLuMcChj!~~_1.JPG)
And one in Burg (http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Rickenbacker-4003-Bass_W0QQitemZ280356461742QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item41468c1cae&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50) - could be a refin:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!BUFOyswBGk~$(KGrHgoOKjUEjlLmU)7+BKLs7jEJVg~~_12.JPG)
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The Burgundy looks semi-transparent. Did they come like that, or is that why you think it might be a refin?
The 5er -- well, I turned down the chance to buy one for $500 10 years ago. I like narrower than average string spacing but that was just ridiculous.
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The seller wrote "Looks like it has been refinished at some point. Although I am not positive."
All Burgs were semi-transparent. This one, with the chrome hardware and black plastic, looks very Gibson-ish. I'd swap the pickguard for a b/w/b laminated guard to complete the look.
Two quick observations regarding the Burg. It has a one-piece pickguard with two-piece screw hole pattern, and a 1980 should have a 2-piece guard because the truss rod adjustment nuts are at the body end. So it could be a replacement part. Same with the tailpiece - it's the 7-bolt type, I don't think they had those in 1980. But this could be an experimental bass, and the pinstripe binding wasn't the only special feature.
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Sorry, I didn't read the auction description. The finish does have a resemblance to Gibson cherry, especially with the black trim. But I don't remember seeing one up close, if I have it's been years.
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There's a lot of variance in Burgs. Some are eggplant colored, others more red, some are close to Gibson cherry or Fender Wine Red. Basically it's Fireglo mixed with Jetglo.
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Burgundy = DROOL!!!
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I had one, an 81 (I think) and it was a lot darker than that and did not appear transparent IIRC. I think that was most likely a refinish too, never saw a Rick that looked like that. Is it possible it was a 4001?, I don't think the TRC is original either unless they didn't put the model numbers on the black ones during that period. Every late 70's early, 80's Ricks I've owned had the model number on the TRC.
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I don't think the TRC is original either unless they didn't put the model numbers on the black ones during that period
I have two black TRC's (a black Plexi on a '73 4001 and a raised letter) that don't have model numbers, just MADE IN U.S.A. Both are genuine.
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1968 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-RICKENBACKER-BASS-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ200349427598QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2ea5c1a78e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50) 4001!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/16/!BTvjtNg!mk~$(KGrHgoOKisEjlLl5Pu2BKKB3onUE!~~_3.JPG)
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Nice one. $9000 BIN seems steep, you never know, though. The seller needs better focused closeup pics.
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I have two black TRC's (a black Plexi on a '73 4001 and a raised letter) that don't have model numbers, just MADE IN U.S.A. Both are genuine.
I have a black one hanging around somewhere too, I'll have to pull it out and check it, I don't remember it saying the model number on it either, mines a raised letter.
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1968 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-RICKENBACKER-BASS-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ200349427598QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2ea5c1a78e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50) 4001!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/16/!BTvjtNg!mk~$(KGrHgoOKisEjlLl5Pu2BKKB3onUE!~~_3.JPG)
Yeah that thing looks almost mint, one of the nicest if not the nicest one I've ever seen.
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The seller of the double-bound Burg has added this pic. Definitely a refin.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!BUmeBLgB2k~$(KGrHgoH-DoEjlLlzR(4BKOURqjF)w~~_12.JPG)
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If this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-Model-4000-Bass-100-Original_W0QQitemZ140328381864QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item20ac392da8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) isn't a cool Ric, I don't know what is. I'm in loooooove.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BUyyzbQ!2k~$(KGrHgoH-CUEjlLlvzuyBKPUqW1NBQ~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!BUyyuOwBGk~$(KGrHgoOKjYEjlLmYLs0BKPUq!5c,!~~_12.JPG)
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A little too worn and a little too reddish for me.
I wouldn't be surprised if this gets into the upper teens.
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Wow that's looks absolutely fantastic.
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Sold for $1,575. Not to me...
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Maybe prices are settling down a bit.
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If this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-Model-4000-Bass-100-Original_W0QQitemZ140328381864QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item20ac392da8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) isn't a cool Ric, I don't know what is. I'm in loooooove.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BUyyzbQ!2k~$(KGrHgoH-CUEjlLlvzuyBKPUqW1NBQ~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!BUyyuOwBGk~$(KGrHgoOKjYEjlLmYLs0BKPUq!5c,!~~_12.JPG)
Well I guess that goes to show that one man's cool Rick is another man's POS, ;D
It is well played though, probably comfortable.
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Maybe prices are settling down a bit.
I think prices are definitely lower, you can see it on epay. Even new T-Birds have dropped from a high of about 2300 to about 1500 over the past year. Have Ricks dropped at all?
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How about this lovely '66 4005 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230354564001&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us)...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!BVyprngBWk~$(KGrHgoH-CQEjlLl1C88BKUTzFn,Cw~~_1.JPG)
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Is that the "mgauction" guy?
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Tuxedo, no reserve...
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-BASS-GUITAR-4003-WITH-HARD-CASE_W0QQitemZ120453385381QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item1c0b94cca5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_500wt_924
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Beauty, eh? I haven't followed what these have sold for recently. Over 2K?
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Sure over $2K. but typically less than Blackstars. Probably the yellowing is a turn-off.
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$2,735
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Still a bargain compared to old beat-up Fenders.
I see he was smart enough to amend his description, that may have helped him get more for it.
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Yes but with Rics, no one claims that the old ones sound better.
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Not on eBay, but Olivia's have a v63 in Sea Green (http://www.gbase.com/gear/rickenbacker-very-rare-4001v63-in-sea-2001-20).
(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/2189447/p1_u2e1amwoh_so.jpg)
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Holy crap, that's high. I remember Tim Sarter offering his at about $2200 maybe three years ago, that was higher than I'd ever seen.
Olivia's sure does have the cool inventory, though.
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They also have the best bass pics since bunnybass.com.
BTW bunnybass's photo tips (http://liutaiomottola.com/BunnyBass/intro.htm) are still online.
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Hippie Ric (http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-RICKENBACKER-4003-BASS-GENUINE-VINTAGE-MADE-IN-USA_W0QQitemZ150375630980QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2303160884&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1923wt_939)... I love it!
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... and presently rather cheap... ;)
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Went for considerably more, though, Ilan... £1131.11p
Would have loved to have had 1p more to spare... ;)
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That's $1,800! Much higher than what I anticipated. There must be a lot of hippie buyers on eBay.
Anyway it's a nice option for a badly refinished or stripped Ric. But it needs a matching pickguard.
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Naw... just a lotta "wack-jobs" like me... ;)
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Wait a minute... Did you get it, Kenny?
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In my dreams, Ilan, in my dreams...
4 balls short on the lottery tonight, none last Wednesday, the bonus ball last Saturday... etc...
The last and only time I have ever had my hands on a Ricky was when I had been given some money to buy a 21st birthday prezzie acoustic guitar (an Ibanez 12 string, which has a truly beautiful tone) by my parents, which I still lovingly care for ( ;D), in London, back in 1990...
They didn't even have anything I could play her through properly... jerks...
As I posted... in my dreams...
If you've seen what my old T'bird looked like, you might have been shocked to discover that I would have refin'd properly... welllll, at least a wee bit more tastefully than that... :vader:
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That's $1,800! Much higher than what I anticipated.
Thats 1234 Euro. Pretty cheap for a Rick. ;-)
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60's slotted tailpiece (http://cgi.ebay.com/1960s-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Tailpiece-Mute_W0QQitemZ180424581497QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item2a0224a179#ht_500wt_1182)... you don't see them too often for sale. No affiliation.
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I think I know the seller.
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Sold for $256. Wow.
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Damn! Still not as high as some vintage Fender parts I've seen, but getting up there.
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'74 4005WB MG (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-WB-Bass-Mapleglo-Vintage_W0QQitemZ230400292632QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item35a4ed7718#ht_500wt_1182)
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The bass was not cleaned up for the photos and this will be left to the next owner.
I just don't understand that mentality.
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I think that's collector mentality.
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There's a fine line between mojo and gunk.
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There's a fine line between mojo and gunk.
FULLY worth of a sig line!
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8-string Redneck! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110467039451#ht_562wt_1165)
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A "Lady in red..." 8)
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Paging Uwe to the courtesy phone... you need another Rick 8-string!
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(ssshhhhh, Dave... don't mention the "F" word...)
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More cool Rics on the 'bay...
First a stunning Blackstar (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-BLACKSTAR-Bass_W0QQitemZ130350418094QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item1e597d88ae#ht_16068wt_1165)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll141/discartist/Blackstar/bs3.jpg)
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Next, a '76 Burgundyglo 4000-turned-4001S (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1976-Rickenbacker-4000-4001s-bass-burgandyglo_W0QQitemZ160385196284QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2557b3e0fc#ht_500wt_1182) with a toaster and a horseshoe pickup with a lap steel surround.
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A Mapleglo 4002 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4002-bass-RUSH-Geddy-Lee-4001-4003_W0QQitemZ260519546693QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3ca82ccf45#ht_30666wt_1165), sadly drilled for through-body string ferruls
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/jakebartolone/4002/P1030849.jpg)
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At least the mod on the 4002 looks well done. Too bad it reduces the value.
Shame about that 4000. Should have left it alone.
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OMG - that black mirror fin... 8)
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Any info on the bridge on that 4002? That's the third Ric with the same bridge mod I've seen by now.
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A company called Stars Guitars used to make those Ric replacement bridges. Looks pretty decent, though I'd never route a 4002. I'm sure it was done before anybody had a clue what the bass would be worth in the 21st century. :-\ And sorry, but I don't buy the Geddy Lee story. Why would every Ric he owned have a Badass, and this one got a Stars? ???
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My 11 year old bass playing son just looked at the 4002 pic. His response: "Wow." Pauses for two seconds. "I don't like the bridge." He certainly got it.
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This 21-fret '71 Burg (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1971-21-Fret-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Burgundyglo_W0QQitemZ220525502729QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3358582109#ht_720wt_1165) has it all.
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Perfection! I want it. "Dear Santa....."
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All it needs is a horseshoe.
This one will probably go sky-high. Buyer and seller will both be happy.
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I bought a 21 fretter back in the late 1990's for $500. Tried and tried to find info on it but everyone at the old alt.rickenbacker site thought it was fake. I even found photo's of Chris Squire using one on The Yes Album. Wish I still had it but sold it for the $500 I paid for it on Ebay. It was a pretty beat Mapleglo with replaced tuners and a few missing parts. They have a sound all their own and sound just like "Your's Is No Discrace" type of tone. It was the one that got away for sure......
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That Burg '71 had a BIN of 8K at the start but someone put in a first bid that took it away.
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Not to surprising I guess, with 9 days to run and bidding taking off already... I don't think 8K will be a problem now... maybe someone will curse later... :-\
Not a bass, I know, but he's also got a rather nice 1966 360/12 for sale, too... just my 12 string thing ("So you wanna be a rock-n-roll star...")
It would be nice to be able to give them both a new home... :)
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The "Holy Gray" (http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Rickenbacker-4003-Blackstar-Bass-Only-200-made_W0QQitemZ250561289317QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBassi?hash=item3a569ddc65#ht_12887wt_1166) (as the seller calls it) is back... cool pics.
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/89/e0/5b4c_10.JPG)
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I can easily forgive his English, I can't forgive his pricing. Or have these doubled in price recently?
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Great bass. Stupid price.
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Didn't Ray Duke buy one 10 years ago for $600? Where is Ray Duke?? ???
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Didn't Ray Duke buy one 10 years ago for $600?
And I bought my Shadow for $750... and a sweet '61 Gibson for $899... these days are gone. Not as many clueless sellers on eBay as there used to be.
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This is an unusual one. Are they any good?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Rickenbacker-Electric-Bass_W0QQitemZ360231063146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item53df71ce6a#ht_500wt_1116
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That's a 2000 series -- 2030, I think. I didn't care for them. The ones I played had uncomfortably wide and thick necks. They didn't have the usual Rick sound (or appearance, except for the headstock) and they were bolt-ons, so they never caught on with the Rick faithful.
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It sure doesn't seem to be attracting much in the way of interested parties.
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It's Rickenbacker's redheaded stepchild.
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The famous Darkstar Laredo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4004-LAREDO-with-Dark-Star-pickups_W0QQitemZ300391189691QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45f0b5ccbb#ht_649wt_1165) is on eBay.
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The famous Darkstar Laredo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4004-LAREDO-with-Dark-Star-pickups_W0QQitemZ300391189691QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45f0b5ccbb#ht_649wt_1165) is on eBay.
Is Jeff Rath the seller?
Why is this famous? I remember that Norris (Hillsidebass) bought a new 4004 in the Pit v.2 days and had Dark Stars put in almost right away. Is this his former bass?
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I think so. It has changed several hands (at one point it was owned by Steve Barr) and was discussed in the bass forums more than once. I don't think there's another one like it. Everybody seems to think it looks great but no one ends up keeping it.
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That must be it, then. People jumped on the Dark Star bandwagon, irreversibly modified their basses, then before you know it, they were selling them. Guess they weren't as amazing as they thought.
A modified bass should sell for well less than an unmodded one, but I guess there are still enough folks on the bandwagon to keep the prices up. Sooner or later that will change.
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Yeah, I remember talking about my '73 Guild JS II at the old Pit - the thing is totally unmolested, yet people are like "cool, put some Dark Stars on it!" F*ck, I like the way it sounds as is! I mean, it's what, an $800 bass tops? But still.....
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It doesn't bother me at all that some love the Dark Star, what irritated me is the fervor about it being the perfect replacement for just about anything. It was the perfect P replacement, the perfect Tele Bass humbucker replacement, the perfect Rick replacement et al. No matter that these pickups sounded very different from each other, the Dark Star was said to be everything they sounded like and more. :rolleyes:
I heard ad nauseam about how the DS is such a full range sound. That's why I don't like it. What makes various pickups interesting is that they're not full range, they each have their own distinctive frequency ranges, peaks, valleys, etc.
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It doesn't bother me at all that some love the Dark Star, what irritated me is the fervor about it being the perfect replacement for just about anything. It was the perfect P replacement, the perfect Tele Bass humbucker replacement, the perfect Rick replacement et al. No matter that these pickups sounded very different from each other, the Dark Star was said to be everything they sounded like and more. :rolleyes:
I heard ad nauseam about how the DS is such a full range sound. That's why I don't like it. What makes various pickups interesting is that they're not full range, they each have their own distinctive frequency ranges, peaks, valleys, etc.
Interesting analysis! I've never played a Dark Star equipped bass, but it seems like the whole point was to tap into the magic of the early bass sounds of Jack Casady and Phil Lesh, who were not only using Bisonic-equipped Guilds but heavily modifid proto-Alembic electronics, the whole point of which was to use filters to emphasize certain frequencies. So I don't think the point was the full-range sound by itself, it was to mold that full range sound with filters (whether lo-, band-, or high-pass). That seemed to fly over a lot of people's heads...
I wonder too (and this is just a thought) how much of the "magic" of Dark Stars is in the name - even if you aren't familiar with the Grateful Dead, it's kind of mysterious and magical sounding...
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I think that part of the appeal was that they look good, and very different from the P/J/MM/soapbar pickups that you see all the time.
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Interesting analysis! I've never played a Dark Star equipped bass, but it seems like the whole point was to tap into the magic of the early bass sounds of Jack Casady and Phil Lesh, who were not only using Bisonic-equipped Guilds but heavily modifid proto-Alembic electronics, the whole point of which was to use filters to emphasize certain frequencies. So I don't think the point was the full-range sound by itself, it was to mold that full range sound with filters (whether lo-, band-, or high-pass). That seemed to fly over a lot of people's heads...
I wonder too (and this is just a thought) how much of the "magic" of Dark Stars is in the name - even if you aren't familiar with the Grateful Dead, it's kind of mysterious and magical sounding...
That made me wonder too. If Casady and Lesh weren't just interested in the full range sound, why emphasize that? Then there's the fact that neither of them used these for long.
Whatever. If you put these in a Rick, you lose the the Rick sound. And you make your bass look ugly.
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I think that part of the appeal was that they look good, and very different from the P/J/MM/soapbar pickups that you see all the time.
Just looked at the pics of the DarkStarLaredo again - looks like it didn't sell. I have to agree with you Ilan, I think the look is definitely another factor. And I have to disagree with Dave - I think this bass looks great! I was actually tempted to buy it back when it sold the first or second time on the 'Pit. Some people don't like the control setup - Vol, Tone and Pup selector switch, but that's all I need! But I must pass...
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I'm with Dave on this. I think these pickups work best for the hollowbody Guild basses such as the Starfire's or early M basses that were fully hollow. I had an early JS bass with an original Bi Sonic in the neck position but to me it did not sound as good as with the hollowbody bass.
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I'm with Dave on this. I think these pickups work best for the hollowbody Guild basses such as the Starfire's or early M basses that were fully hollow. I had an early JS bass with an original Bi Sonic in the neck position but to me it did not sound as good as with the hollowbody bass.
That's a good point as well - I've got a late-'60s Starfire with just the neck Bisonic that sounds great, and an early-'70s M85-II solid-body fretless with Guild Sludgebuckers (at least I think that's what we're calling them) - been considering swapping them out for Dark Stars, but maybe I'll keep that as-is - that's the lazy-inertia method that I favor anyway, though I still need someone to look at it because the bridge pickup by itself hums...
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That's a good point as well - I've got a late-'60s Starfire with just the neck Bisonic that sounds great, and an early-'70s M85-II solid-body fretless with Guild Sludgebuckers (at least I think that's what we're calling them) - been considering swapping them out for Dark Stars, but maybe I'll keep that as-is - that's the lazy-inertia method that I favor anyway, though I still need someone to look at it because the bridge pickup by itself hums...
My 2-cents is that I would keep them as-is, since you have both sounds covered there (assuming you like both sounds). The DSs and the Guild pickups are polar opposites, and both sounds have relevance. I do miss the sludge sometimes in my JS-II.
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I LOVE THOSE GUILD SLUDGE-BUCKERS!!!!
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I LOVE THOSE GUILD SLUDGE-BUCKERS!!!!
Me too! Here's my friend Amy doing her best Tom Heslin impression with my '73. Her roommate made her dress up exactly like me. Right down to the Vox python strap. LOL! Yeah, I KNOW - it looks better on her! :P
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs294.ash1/22153_1259203892933_1614724672_623605_5067718_n.jpg)
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Nice. i have a pair in my 76 Ripper.
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x120/yrofrat/hhhkkk001-1.jpg)
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Time capsule '74 4005 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4005-Mapleglo-1974_W0QQitemZ360236880642QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item53dfca9302#ht_2001wt_939). Very clean and very pricey.
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Skate Rat - cool! The one time I played a Ripper, it totally reminded me of a long scale version of my Guild. Nice fit.
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thats "Betty" the best bass in the world! but they did make full scale JS I & II's. i'd like to get one someday.
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Interesting...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-Walnut-Wing-Body-Mapleglo_W0QQitemZ250604015122QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3a5929ce12 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-Walnut-Wing-Body-Mapleglo_W0QQitemZ250604015122QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3a5929ce12)
Lots of interesting features, but I'm not sure if I like it. Maybe if it had white trim instead of black?
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I'm so far out of current events at RIC that I didn't know they had an official outlet.
With the checkerboard binding and the fancy top, the bidding on this one will get way up there.
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With its walnut body, it must sound different from a 4003. I don't know if that is a good thing though... Maybe more like a 4004? In any case, a stunning looker IMHO.
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With the checkerboard binding and the fancy top, the bidding on this one will get way up there.
I bet you're right.
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I'm not a fan of Mapleglo, but this is a cool bass. Much better with black plastic than the traditional white, IMHO.
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$2800 with a day to go. I wonder if it will hit the $4000 mark.
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That's just insane.
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Ended at $4,552.
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Lefty 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-4000-Lefty-Fireglo-Bass-4001_W0QQitemZ370352353399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item563ab87077#ht_12808wt_1165)... How rare is that? In Fireglo, and routed for a neck pickup and four pots under the pickguard.
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/15148604/aview/DSC06868.jpg)
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Ended at $4,552.
Yow! :o
Do we know who got it?
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Lefty 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-4000-Lefty-Fireglo-Bass-4001_W0QQitemZ370352353399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item563ab87077#ht_12808wt_1165)... How rare is that? In Fireglo, and routed for a neck pickup and four pots under the pickguard.
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/15148604/aview/DSC06868.jpg)
Paging Ronn and Terr ... let the bidding wars begin.
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I should make it clear that the routing for a neck pickup is factory, not a mod.
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We were just looking at this over on Leftybassist.
This one might just set a record.
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Wow! Look how far the neck joint goes into the body. Those are pretty stable even with the route.
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Lefty 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-4000-Lefty-Fireglo-Bass-4001_W0QQitemZ370352353399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item563ab87077#ht_12808wt_1165)... How rare is that? In Fireglo, and routed for a neck pickup and four pots under the pickguard.
Is it possible she started out that way and modified for extra sheckles on the bidding...? (or shoud I take my cynics hat off...? ;))
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Many 4000's came from the factory routed for two pickups. This one has "4000" penciled in the control cavity, and is a set-neck, so I see no reason to suspect it was modified.
Some owners of such 4000's have converted them to dual-pickup 4001S. It's s reversible mod that makes sense.
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My education continues... thanks...
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Good price on a lovely Jetglo 4000 in the UK (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Black-1976-Vintage_W0QQitemZ250610534785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3a598d4981#ht_500wt_956)...
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Beautiful...
One day... just not this one...
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We were just looking at this over on Leftybassist.
This one might just set a record.
Didn't meet reserve at 995. Limited market for 4000s, but you would think a lefty would bring out a few higher bids than that.
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Yes, I am surprised. 4000s are generally considered collectable. One in this good of condition and a lefty should have attracted serious attention. Oh well guess it's a good thing I don't play the vintage guitar market. :D
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Look at this wrecked 4001... just about to fall over...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Electric-Bass-Guitar-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ110517324462QQcategoryZ4713QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D20%26ps%3D63 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Electric-Bass-Guitar-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ110517324462QQcategoryZ4713QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D20%26ps%3D63)
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Sold for $710... I remember when not so long ago you could buy a nice unmolested Ric for that price.
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That one needs to be steam cleaned and disinfected.
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What I don't get is why he went to all this trouble transforming his Ric to a Fender P, but left the original bridge/tailpiece? Usually that's the first thing to get replaced with a Badass.
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Three 4000's on eBay... the modded one in Germany that's been relisted a million times, a nice flame MG at Olivia's (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1972-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-MAPLEGLO-all-ORIGINAL-/150442549305?cmd=ViewItem#ht_22758wt_1165) - tons of drool-worthy pics as usual -
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/72r4000mapleglo/websize/A%20062.JPG)
And a Jetglo 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Bass-Vintage-4000-Series-/130391187503?cmd=ViewItem#ht_500wt_1154) - the "Stanley Clarke model" ;) In the UK, local pickup only. Love the 'relic'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFP-alYNq5I
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Olivia's prices are almost always on the high end, they must get it at least some of the time. But $4,190 for a 72 4000? I don't think so.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo
But C.F. Turner played one!! :mrgreen:
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'72 dark Burg (http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Checkerboard-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-guitar-case-/160436569868?cmd=ViewItem#ht_500wt_1154)! How cool is that?
Anyone wants to venture a guess as to the final price?
BTW, fellow forumite Marc Lazare has a gorgeous mid-73 Burg (checkerboard, toaster but smaller inlays) that is probably the best sounding and playing Ric I have ever had the pleasure to play... This one reminds me of Marc's bass.
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That is beautiful, but I would not like to hazard a guess on the outcome...
one bidder so far...
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I realize it's high already with 5 days left, but I'll guess $4500.
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I sold a beat up one about 5 years ago for $2500. It has been re-fretted and had a replacement treble pickup. Still made a profit too. :mrgreen: Wish I still had my '71 4001 with 21 frets.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/10pnc0k.jpg)
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I'm guessing $4K for the Burg.
That Jetglo is awesome!
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Actually, it was Eggplant finish. (Burg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2nlbo7t.jpg)
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That is even more awesome.
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1959 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4000-1959-RARE-Vintage-Bass-Guitar-w-Case-/330440729391?cmd=ViewItem#ht_500wt_1154)... $12,000
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The 72 Burg ended at $3550. Must be the economy.
The 59 4000 is certainly rare. Hard to figure out what it's worth. Is it highly valued for its tone? I don't think so. More for its rarity.
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Agreed. They are also reputedly very heavy and from what I've read some have neck issues and high action by today's standards. Still I'd like to own one for the historic significance. This one looks very clean.
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Too bad Treena dropped out of sight about five years ago. You could make an offer on that 61 she said was a 57. ;D As if she actually ever owned it. :-\
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1968 4005
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1968-Rickenbacker-4005-bass-fireglow-Vintage-Guitar-/180517257959?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a07aac2e7 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1968-Rickenbacker-4005-bass-fireglow-Vintage-Guitar-/180517257959?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a07aac2e7)
UK seller - will ship
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Wow, that is beautiful! How do those sound?
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i have always loved those basses. only player i remember was steppin wolf. JAE i have seen with one but don't remember what song ////
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There was a Burgundy 4005 in the first Tony Bacon/Paul Day Ultimate Guitar Book, I thought it was breath taking.
A short scale version could be nice... Maybe someone can marry a 360 body and a 3000 neck?
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A short scale version could be nice... Maybe someone can marry a 360 body and a 3000 neck?
Brazilian guitar manufacturer Giannini offered this model in the early 60s:
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww186/daniel_japeta/giannini%20diamond%20mirage%20bass/mirage_01.jpg)
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww186/daniel_japeta/giannini%20diamond%20mirage%20bass/mirage_02.jpg)
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww186/daniel_japeta/giannini%20diamond%20mirage%20bass/diamond_mirage_bass.jpg)
It is called Diamond Mirage Bass. And the nice gentleman you see holding the bass is Giannini's master luthier from the '60s, Carlos "Sossego" Lopes. He's the man who created this and most of the models of the brand's line-up in the early '60s.
The pic was taken in 2008 when he was visiting another builder's shop who was doing a setup on the bass. As the story is told, Carlos almost had a heart-attack when he saw one of his "babies" over 40 years later, and in such great shape! That one in the pic is supposed to be all original.
It's a short scale bolt-on (but it's shorter than 30 inches), and apparently it was conceived in 1964, even before Ric's 4005.
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IMHO the 4005 is about looks, not tone. It doesn't sound so hot in long scale, I doubt short scale would be an improvement.
OTOH the short scale Rick 3000 sounds great but it's solidbody and has better pickup placement.
Our own Chris P sounds great playing his 4005 in this video, but that's because what you're actually hearing is his Thunderbird. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw0VEcm2IlE
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I believe the sound has been referred to as "plink and thud" due to the pickup placement and overall design elements. :P They look awesome though. Never played one.
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i always heard they sounded crappy. pickup placement versus the 4001 very different. But they look so sweet even in the burst. prices on used ric's have gotten out of hand......i guess that's result of the new ones being so expensive.....
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That and the backlog.
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i guess that's result of the new ones being so expensive.....
Compared to what?
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The new ones have gone up quite a bit in past few years, after years of little or no increase. Still a bargain IMO, and less expensive in today's dollars than the Ricks of 30-35 years ago.
This has little or nothing to do with 4005 prices, they were out of sight 15 years ago.
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A one-off C64S in black-to-blueburst (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001C64S-Black-BlueBurst-one-of-a-kind-/250649496086?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar&hash=item3a5bdfca16#ht_500wt_1154)!
I'm guessing $4K+
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You may be right.
I don't like that burst and I've never liked the backwards headstock.
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If there's one thing I dislike more than the upside-down headstock, it's the "shaved" horns - but it's a one of a kind ric-outlet experimental bass, and will attract many.
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It seems strange to me that they've been doing colors on the shaved horn S models - Jetglo, Fireglo, satin black, and now this. ???
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Probably a rejected bass that was used for finish experiments. It must be easier to paint S models without the binding.
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Must be me... I quite like that fin...
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4002... (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-83-4002-and-pickups-/170500571789?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar&hash=item27b2a0428d#ht_500wt_1154)
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A blueburst 4003 fretless in the UK...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-Rickenbacker-4003-Fretless-Bass-Guitar-BLUE-BURST-/220618418763?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335de1ea4b (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-Rickenbacker-4003-Fretless-Bass-Guitar-BLUE-BURST-/220618418763?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335de1ea4b)
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I have always been partial to blue Rics!
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I've always been partial to Rickies... ;D
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4003S Jetglo... which means that it's an S model but neck-thru. $1,539 BIN price... no affil.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-1986-Blacked-Out-Dot-Neck-BASS-Mono-4003S-/270596180628?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar&hash=item3f00ca0a94#ht_500wt_1154
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UK seller... not seen one of these before so I know absolutely nothing about them...
4004 Cheyenne - 1993 - natural oiled fin - maple neck with walnut wings - the classic shape, but very un-Rickie looking...?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RICKENBACKER-4004-CHEYENNE-1-BASS-GUITAR-CASE-1993-/290445221893?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item439fe26005 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RICKENBACKER-4004-CHEYENNE-1-BASS-GUITAR-CASE-1993-/290445221893?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item439fe26005)
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I love these early Cheyennes. Very classy look IMHO that still has the essential Ric curves and "cresting waves".
But this one had a weird pickguard that left a shadow, like a carpet on a dark hardwood floor.
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UK seller... not seen one of these before so I know absolutely nothing about them...
4004 Cheyenne - 1993 - natural oiled fin - maple neck with walnut wings - the classic shape, but very un-Rickie looking...?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RICKENBACKER-4004-CHEYENNE-1-BASS-GUITAR-CASE-1993-/290445221893?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item439fe26005 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RICKENBACKER-4004-CHEYENNE-1-BASS-GUITAR-CASE-1993-/290445221893?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item439fe26005)
I had a 93 Cheyenne, bought it from fur85 (Mark F.) at the old Pit, sold it to bassduke49 (Paul B.) at the Rick Resource Forum. In both cases the price was between $900-1000 US, and this was 6-8 years ago. Even with the increase in Rick prices, £1799.00 BIN looks way high to me.
The 4004 series has the Rick vibe in some ways, not so in others.
And I don't get the pickguard shadow either. Why was there even a pickguard on it?
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looking at the close-up pics and the position of the pups, looks like it was removed and the rest of the body has been bleached...?
Possibly some filled screw-holes, too... :sad:
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The pickups are at the correct locations. On the Cii RIC moved them about an inch backwards to enable slap/pop, and then when they realized that the truss rods can not be removed for service, returned the pickups back to the original layout, so that the rods can be pulled out and inserted back in through the neck pickup route.
The shadow was created as dark wood tends to brighten in direct sunlight. The area that wasn't exposed remained dark.
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The shadow was created as dark wood tends to brighten in direct sunlight. The area that wasn't exposed remained dark.
Especially with the type of finish RIC used on those.
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4003S Jetglo... which means that it's an S model but neck-thru. $1,539 BIN price... no affil.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-1986-Blacked-Out-Dot-Neck-BASS-Mono-4003S-/270596180628?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar&hash=item3f00ca0a94#ht_500wt_1154
Pretty much just like my favorite, but mine's an '89. Phenomenal necks on these late 80s/early 90s Rics!
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4003s/8 on the 'bay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250656948611&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I'd love to get one of these someday. My old Ibanez Studio is great, but I kinda dig the Ric sound in an 8 string config.
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Saw that this morning. Cool bass. I think that's quite a good BIN price.
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[about the 4005 sound]
I believe the sound has been referred to as "plink and thud" due to the pickup placement and overall design elements. :P
here (http://rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=385701) you can find a poll on RRF with samples of various Rickenbacker's. I was curious how many RRF members where able to tell which one of the sound-samples where the 4005. Answers available in the same thread.
[edit] It is ChrisP's 4005 you hear in these soundsamples btw. He was so generous to lend it to me for some time as I was highly fascinated by the 4005, but didn't even know how it sounded at the time.
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Was previous posting helpfull for those who wanted to hear a 4005? Or do people over here only read over here? Or?
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I follow both...
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Was previous posting helpfull for those who wanted to hear a 4005? Or do people over here only read over here? Or?
Those samples were enlightening! I've never heard a 4005 in isolation like that, and I was kinda surprised at how close it sounded to the 4001. The difference is much more subtle than I expected.
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4002 Mapleglo with some birdseye (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4002-bass-/110564670640?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19be2afcb0#ht_501wt_1137)... and a story about which I have doubts. It was allegedly "originally given by Geddy Lee to his keyboard tech and is an EXACT replica of Lee's 4002 bass. As such it has heavier frets and a non-standard bridge which were done at the time of purchase by Rickenbacker in Santa Monica."
The bridge is the kind that you sometimes find on Rics from the UK, probably by a UK maker. No way this was done at RIC (which isn't located in Santa Monica...) and certainly not Geddy's choice of bridge. The bad news are the drilling through the body and the ferrules. I guess it can be restored, but at a cost.
Still a nice rare bass. As always, no affiliation.
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That one came up a while ago with the same story. I don't buy it. That's a Stars Guitars bridge, which I believe was made in California. Every Ric and Fender he owns has a Badass. Why would this have a Stars? Pretty bass though.
Yow! Strings through the body... That's an irreversible mod.
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No way that story is accurate.
the "holy grail" of Rickenbacker basses
Yeah, right. :rolleyes: Almost nobody wanted it when it was current.
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the "holy grail" of Rickenbacker basses
Yeah, right. :rolleyes: Almost nobody wanted it when it was current.
I see similarities with the 4005.
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I see similarities with the 4005.
And the Flying V and Explorer in the late 50's, and let's not forget that the Les Paul was discontinued in 1961 because sales were dwindling, and was re-introduced only 7 years later. And Van Gogh has sold only one painting.
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And the Flying V and Explorer in the late 50's, and let's not forget that the Les Paul was discontinued in 1961 because sales were dwindling, and was re-introduced only 7 years later. And Van Gogh has sold only one painting.
Wasn't the reverse Thunderbird discontinued back in the '60s in part because it was expensive and suffered decreasing sales?
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gibson sales and marketing- fz knows why- Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
Frank Zappa
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He was a genius.
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And the Flying V and Explorer in the late 50's, and let's not forget that the Les Paul was discontinued in 1961 because sales were dwindling, and was re-introduced only 7 years later. And Van Gogh has sold only one painting.
I ment the ""holy grail" of Rickenbacker basses" which the 4005 nowadays is also i.m.h.o..
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gibson sales and marketing- fz knows why- Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
Frank Zappa
He was a genius.
Yes, he was.
"I'm perfectly willing to outrage anyone who cares to be outraged." - FZ
Saturday on NPR I heard FZ's band's performance of "It Ain't Necessarily So" from "Porgy and Bess" with the late newsman Daniel Schorr singing. It was spectacular!
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4002 Mapleglo with some birdseye (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4002-bass-/110564670640?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19be2afcb0#ht_501wt_1137)... and a story about which I have doubts. It was allegedly "originally given by Geddy Lee to his keyboard tech and is an EXACT replica of Lee's 4002 bass. As such it has heavier frets and a non-standard bridge which were done at the time of purchase by Rickenbacker in Santa Monica."
The bridge is the kind that you sometimes find on Rics from the UK, probably by a UK maker. No way this was done at RIC (which isn't located in Santa Monica...) and certainly not Geddy's choice of bridge. The bad news are the drilling through the body and the ferrules. I guess it can be restored, but at a cost.
Still a nice rare bass. As always, no affiliation.
Found reference to it at the Rickenbacker Resource Forum (http://www.rickresource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=396624), including a post by the author of the story...
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Found reference to it at the Rickenbacker Resource Forum (http://www.rickresource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=396624), including a post by the author of the story...
He says he bought it from Geddy's keyboard tech but he doesn't support the current owner's claim that it's an exact replica of Geddy's bass or that the modifications were done at the factory.
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4003SPC Blackstar (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320571712916#ht_500wt_1182) w/COA...
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That Blackstar is an awesome bass, but not $3500 worth of awesome.
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Agreed. I don't recall seeing one go near that high before, not that I've been paying close attention.
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21-fret '71! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Extremely-Rare-21-fret-bass-1971-/300456130090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV#ht_542wt_1165)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!Byh5SDw!Wk~$(KGrHqZ,!jIEw49O4KO+BMSIQJnGW!~~_3.JPG)
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Wow! THAT is a dream Ric. I can almost hear the clank!
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Ended with 0 bids.
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At that price I'm not surprised. It's rare but the market says it's not $4K rare.
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From the UK - a '92 S model modded to look like a Chris Squire (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003S-bass-/160472525925?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV#ht_500wt_1154). How weird is a 7-bolt tailpiece with a slotted rib?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!B1DcN!gCGk~$(KGrHqV,!jcE)pe,0U4SBMc8HSYFEQ~~_12.JPG)
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At that price I'm not surprised. It's rare but the market says it's not $4K rare.
A 21-fretter is much rarer than a 4005.
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A 21-fretter is much rarer than a 4005.
True, and it ought to be worth more. There's just something about a 4005's looks that puts it way up there in price even though I don't think it sounds as good.
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That is a very tastefull mod, looks very well done.
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Very cool S. I'm surprised he didn't go ahead and put a toaster on there.
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I'm surprised he didn't go ahead and put a toaster on there.
And a clear Plexi pickguard with white paint on the back... Like CS's.
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21-fret '71! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Extremely-Rare-21-fret-bass-1971-/300456130090?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV#ht_542wt_1165)
back (http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300459385292&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI) with price lowered.
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back (http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300459385292&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI) with price lowered.
If he's only going to lower the starting bid by £100 this may be the first of many reductions.
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If he's only going to lower the starting bid by £100 this may be the first of many reductions.
Are you seeing this from an American point of view?
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'72 FG (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4001-FIREGLO-1972-VINTAGE-/390230671132?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV#ht_844wt_911)... only 20 frets ;) but still an eye candy...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!B0lwYLgB2k~$(KGrHqF,!jEEw5bWkgO0BM,+CWkNwg~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/03!B0lwci!B2k~$(KGrHqZ,!hwE)qgkwDZeBM,+CnjHFg~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/08!B0lwhMQ!mk~$(KGrHqR,!hIEw5JsEZO7BM,+C6T6vw~~_12.JPG)
De-capped...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!B0lwv1QEWk~$(KGrHqR,!iIE)qvw8QW3BM,+Dtht-w~~_1.JPG)
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Are you seeing this from an American point of view?
I don't understand what you mean.
When nobody is willing to meet your starting bid, lowering the starting bid by only about 4% is not much of an incentive. If he's only going to lower it a little bit at a time, he may find himself having to do that over and over. Even if he doesn't lower his reserve (if he has one), lowering the starting bid enough to generate some buyer interest is a tried and true sales tactic.
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I don't understand what you mean.
I meant that prices for Rickenbackers are higher in Europe than in America. In general Dollar price is Euro price once in Europe. I.m.h.o. it is not very expensive for a 21 fretter in Europe. It is not a good time to sell at all, but I think I have even seen 21 fretter sell for double this price in the past.
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I meant that prices for Rickenbackers are higher in Europe than in America. In general Dollar price is Euro price once in Europe. I.m.h.o. it is not very expensive for a 21 fretter in Europe. It is not a good time to sell at all, but I think I have even seen 21 fretter sell for double this price in the past.
There may have been a few 21 fretters sell for more than this, but one way or another, I'm not disputing value. It's worth what someone is willing to offer for it.
All I'm saying is, if it doesn't get even one bid, lowering it in tiny bits is less likely to draw interested bidders than a bigger reduction.
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When I bought my 21 fretter in 1998 I paid $500 for it. All of the Ric "experts" of that time frame thought it was a fake. It was pretty beat and needed some work and did not have some of the original parts but it sounded like no other Ric I've played before or since. The sound guy who mixed the country band I was in at the time loved the tone. I sold it when I bought my first Alembic back then.
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All I'm saying is, if it doesn't get even one bid, lowering it in tiny bits is less likely to draw interested bidders than a bigger reduction.
I get your point. I would have relisted without lowering the price. ;) 21 fretters have been a sort of Holy Grail just as much as the 4005 amongst some Rickenbacker aficionado's and the seller only needs one of them.
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A 21-fretter is basically a 4001 that had its bridge moved forward by about 1/2", but the pickups stay in the same place, so effectively what you get is a 4001 with the pickups moved 1/2" backwards.
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Crazy rare '71 Lefty (http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-1971-Rickenbacker-4001-MapleGlo-Lefty-/270627627082?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f02a9e04a#ht_1692wt_1137)!
(http://www.route66guitars.com/files/dscn0153.png)
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A 21-fretter is basically a 4001 that had its bridge moved forward by about 1/2", but the pickups stay in the same place, so effectively what you get is a 4001 with the pickups moved 1/2" backwards.
So in effect, the neck pup gets to go below the harmonic, like post 74's.
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So in effect, the neck pup gets to go below the harmonic, like post 74's.
Yes, the neck pickup is in a post-74 position if you measure from the bridge.
I never really got the "below the harmonic" thing. I mean, that is only the open string harmonic, but harmonics move when you fret different notes, don't they?
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I never really got the "below the harmonic" thing. I mean, that is only the open string harmonic, but harmonics move when you fret different notes, don't they?
Yes. And the earlier mentioned one just got sold.
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Someone got a great deal on that bass. I sold my '72 Eggplant 20 fretter for 2500 5 years ago and it had some work done on it. Don't forget the 21 fretters also had the extra 1/2 inch added to the neck. So in effect they are 1/2 inch longer than 20 fret basses.
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Yes. And the earlier mentioned one just got sold.
Well, well. Good for him. But he still only got his opening bid.
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$3,860 for a '71 21-fretter? Seems like a soft market now for Rics.
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Feb. '73 Jetglo w/all the goodies (http://cgi.ebay.com/EARLY-1973-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-JETGLO-W-OHSC-4003-/200514636906?pt=Guitar&hash=item2eaf9a8c6a#ht_28584wt_1137)... $3K opening bid.
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb117/bmcvintageguitars/01/1973%20Rickenbacker%204001%20JG%20Checkerboard/newpics172.jpg)
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Shhhhh..... a modified Blackstar with $1,900 starting bid (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-Electric-Bass-/280556250789?pt=Guitar&hash=item415274a6a5#ht_1491wt_1137), listed as a "Rickenbacker 4003 Electric Bass"... I don't think the seller knows what it really is.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!B1qT0iQCWk~$(KGrHqN,!iME)q4glVQvBMf(Iup)(!~~_3.JPG)
Is that a bow rosin canister he has there in the case?
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Maybe, maybe not. Seems high for a regular 4003 in that shape so maybe it's a stealth marketing strategy.
Does look like that could be a rosin canister. But why?
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I have just noticed that the extra pickup in the case, supposedly the original, has a black handrest. Blackstars (unlike Shadows and other Black Trim Rics) came with a chrome handrest in a black surround.
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Lovely '73.
Looks like the inlays are the standard pearl, I thought all full width inlays were the crushed pearl type.
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These are transitional inlays. Until '73 the inlays were crushed pearl and full width, in '73 RIC started using the poured material but they were still full width, and in or around May '73 they introduced smaller inlays.
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and in or around May '73 they introduced smaller inlays.
I have seen both with May's. My May had the smaller originaly, but now has full width inlays.
(http://blaat.net/bass/plaatjes/4001-AZG/73ME-refin-inlays-800.jpg)
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Beautiful crushers! Is that Paul W's work? The new binding with red dots is a nice touch.
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That is really nice! Both '74's that I once owned had red dots. Was that the only period that had the red dots?
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AFAIK yes, only '74 had red side position markers.
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A stunning Fireglo S (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003S-Bass-Fireglo-/320585299024?pt=Gitarren&hash=item4aa45f7450#ht_10376wt_1267)... neck-thru. Unrealistic BIN but the pics are borderline porn. Save them for your desktop wallpaper!
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/24006103/aview/d7b.jpg)
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/24006103/aview/d7i.jpg)
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Now that's the kind of Fireglo I like.
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Stunning
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Someone must have told the Blackstar seller what it is: the header now is "Rickenbacker 4003 SPC Blackstar Electric Bass". Still $1,900 and 0 bids.
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Someone must have told the Blackstar seller what it is: the header now is "Rickenbacker 4003 SPC Blackstar Electric Bass". Still $1,900 and 0 bids.
It's in rougher shape than the economy! Still, there are three days left.
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A stunning Fireglo S... neck-thru. Unrealistic BIN but the pics are borderline porn. Save them for your desktop wallpaper!
Oops... just gotta go change...
Beautiful...
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It's been a long time since we've seen a 4080 double neck (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-Neck-Bass-Guitar-/260660130910?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb08df45e#ht_500wt_1154) on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!B193QpgBmk~$(KGrHqYOKiwE)(RR+DKHBMgoUheNVw~~_1.JPG)
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Nice BIN on a 3001?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-RICKENBACKER-3001-BASS-w-OHSC-/280558253227?pt=Guitar&hash=item41529334ab
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That's a reasonable BIN on the 3001. I'd rather have a 3000 though.
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That's a reasonable BIN on the 3001. I'd rather have a 3000 though.
+1
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Beautiful crushers! Is that Paul W's work? The new binding with red dots is a nice touch.
It is Paul W's work. It was made for Shaun (a.k.a. henry5 on RRF). It is a May '73 MG original without full width inlays. I could find several pictures of may '73's with full width inlays tough. So it is period correct. The red markers are not period correct. ;-)
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I think he nailed it, the inlays look very convincing. Not many people know how to do this.
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The $1,900 Blackstar ended with 0 bids. It's a buyers market now. 3 years ago they sold for twice. And the 3001 MG/BT sold for $950.
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The $1,900 Blackstar ended with 0 bids. It's a buyers market now. 3 years ago they sold for twice. And the 3001 MG/BT sold for $950.
I wish I had (even) deeper pockets. A shadow (http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220661473926) went unsold also this week.
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I wish I had (even) deeper pockets. A shadow (http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220661473926) went unsold also this week.
$1032 high bid. Hmm..... Wonder what the reserve was?
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$1032 high bid. Hmm..... Wonder what the reserve was?
Ask her. ;) She used to post on RRF.
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4003SPC Tuxedo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4003-SPC-TUXEDO-BASS-W-OHSC-/330470768025?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cf197bd99#ht_500wt_1154), starting at $2,000.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B2VNvE!B2k~$(KGrHqF,!iME)q7DRdgmBMiClJrVOQ~~_1.JPG)
EDIT: sold for $2,295
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And a fiver (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-5-string-bass-/160479470759?pt=Guitar&hash=item255d5264a7#ht_500wt_947) to match the Tux, starting at $1,500.
Is that White Ric Month on eBay?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!B2ciLdwCGk~$(KGrHqUOKnQE)6U7Em(vBMij4bv8)!~~_1.JPG)
EDIT: sold for $1,626
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The dark side...
Whilst looking at that fiver I spotted this at the bottom of the page... looks like it may have been white... once...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/14/!B2B94b!Bmk~$(KGrHqJ,!iIE)qvgG1QLBMg6tCyUYQ~~_3.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-1987-EASY-PROJECT_W0QQitemZ160477283304QQcategoryZ4713QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5777085118042995011 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-1987-EASY-PROJECT_W0QQitemZ160477283304QQcategoryZ4713QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5777085118042995011)
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Now that Tux looks to be in much nicer shape than the Blackstar. It may get the starting bid, but I'll be surprised if it goes over $2500.
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A one-off: Tobacco-burst 1999 with black trim (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250695060624&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) - I like it!
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Wow.
They call it a Model 1999 but it differs from a 1999RM in several points other than the black trim and one-off paint job. Like the 7-bolt non-notched tailpiece, the smaller, shorter pickguard with late 70's knobs layout, or the smaller treble pickup surround. But awesome nonetheless.
This one's price will go through the roof, I'm sure.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B2eNtCgEWk~$(KGrHqUOKnQE)6U7Em(vBMipLDe!-w~~_3.JPG)
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Simply beautiful...
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Just saw that 1999. NICELY done in every detail! Except it needs vintage knobs. ;D
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Yow! That ought to hit $5K.
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They call it a Model 1999 but it differs from a 1999RM in several points other than the black trim and one-off paint job. Like the 7-bolt non-notched tailpiece, the smaller, shorter pickguard with late 70's knobs layout, or the smaller treble pickup surround. But awesome nonetheless.
Ilan: Someone at the RickResource forum suggested that they may be using up black trim & hardware - this makes sense to me, since my '04 4003 JGBT (made after they discontinued black trim) from Japan also has a black 7-screw tailpiece. But I'm not sure what non-notched means - can you tell me if mine is?
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2219/4003jgbtbridge.jpg)
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The notch in the middle "rib" over the mute compartment in vintage and reissue Rics. The v63 and C64 had correct nothced tailpieces.
Like this:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:J3uwLBP6dg_zoM:http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac108/Gibenbackerbass/Rickenbacker_4001_v63_A-1.jpg&t=1)
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The notch in the middle "rib" over the mute compartment in vintage and reissue Rics. The v63 and C64 had correct nothced tailpieces.
Like this:
(http://....)
I'm not native english speaking. Is this the same as what is meant by tooth-gap bridge?
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Yes, exactly.
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They call it a Model 1999 but it differs from a 1999RM in several points other than the black trim and one-off paint job. Like the 7-bolt non-notched tailpiece, the smaller, shorter pickguard with late 70's knobs layout, or the smaller treble pickup surround. But awesome nonetheless.
Maybe they just meant they used a 1999 reissue (which they recently put on the market for Japan only) body.
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The notch in the middle "rib" over the mute compartment in vintage and reissue Rics. The v63 and C64 had correct nothced tailpieces.
OK, I get it - I was a little confused. The idea that they're using up leftover parts, like the 7-piece tailpieces, rings true to me.
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Turquoise V63 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001V64-4001-V64-V-64-Custom-Col-Azureglo-/150494049110?pt=Guitar&hash=item230a24f356#ht_45383wt_1137)! How rare is that?
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Sept%2013/166.jpg)
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B2eNtCgEWk~$(KGrHqUOKnQE)6U7Em(vBMipLDe!-w~~_3.JPG)
That's a beauty!
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The V63 - is that a slightly metallic fin...?
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Turquoise is metallic.
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That's real similar to the color I did on my BachBird. That Ric is beautiful!
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Always loved that turquoise finish. That's a later, short headstock V63. I'm wary of any Ric post '98. The neck profiles got weird and chunky. I think they're slim again as of this past year or so.
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4003 Blueboy (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultra-Rare-RICKENBACKER-4003-BLUEBOY-Bass-GORGEOUS-/170530772995?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27b46d1803)
(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx152/nadiavys/201-2.jpg)
Another one I've never seen before...
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I have to admit I really like the blueboy finish, though I would probably never get one for myself. Saw one in person once in a store in Japan, it looks like candy! :P
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'00 v63 in Mid Blue (http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-Rickenbacker-4001V63-4001-V63-Midnight-Blue-4003-/160484141535?pt=Guitar&hash=item255d99a9df#ht_57262wt_1137)... ultra rare.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/July%2023/005.jpg)
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The tobaccoburst 1999 went for $4000. A bargain! ;D
The midnight blue v63 is from the same seller as the turquoise v63. I wonder if someone is unloading his collection.
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This thread is just pure cruelty... 8)
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1968 Deluxe! (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/130441385218?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e5ee99502#ht_3438wt_1139)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!B45T7BQBGk~$(KGrHqIOKigEyVk!5E)gBMri6c0km!~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B45UBU!!Wk~$(KGrHqMOKiEEyVLYHZ)uBMri6smi3!~~_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B45T9VQB2k~$(KGrHqYOKkYEynz,uM,dBMri6inBcQ~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!B45UtHgCGk~$(KGrHqMOKj8Ey,CDgW7GBMri8W5b)w~~_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B45U)JQCWk~$(KGrHqEOKiMEyVVGG6I!BMri8h8TGQ~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!B45UywgEWk~$(KGrHqEOKkUEyM+zgniJBMri8mDHCg~~_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/14/!B45U)b!CWk~$(KGrHqIOKiIEyW,bUS4ZBMri8imLGw~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B45Uy7!EWk~$(KGrHqMOKj8Ey,CDgW7GBMri8md!Lg~~_3.JPG)
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Early 1973 Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Checkerboard-toaster-216-/200528730485?pt=Guitar&hash=item2eb0719975#ht_82155wt_1139)...
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/dangerdog777/008/216/DSC_0195.jpg)
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1968 Deluxe! (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/130441385218?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e5ee99502#ht_3438wt_1139)
Pretty!
But:
Strings are very high and no room for adjustment:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B45T9VQB2k~$(KGrHqYOKkYEynz,uM,dBMri6inBcQ~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B45Uy7!EWk~$(KGrHqMOKj8Ey,CDgW7GBMri8md!Lg~~_3.JPG)
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Wow! I love those 60s Deluxe, you dont see them that often.
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Another Ric Outlet experimental bass, this time in bright pearlescent white, half-inch neck pickup spacing, 70's style pickguard with sharp corners (and no hump!)...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-White-BT-/250708475811?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a5f63bfa3#ht_957wt_1139
(http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!B4-8QBgBmk~$(KGrHqIOKi4EwvEtig4CBMr4v(SJDw~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!B4-8fZg!mk~$(KGrHqIOKnEE)5,hRShkBMr4wUU)Kw~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!B4-8Tfw!mk~$(KGrHqIOKnUE)5bFwGM9BMr4vle6EQ~~_3.JPG)
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A sweet Azureglo 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-1982-Azureglo-/300478852035?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item45f5ef6bc3#ht_500wt_1156) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!B2(hgG!BWk~$(KGrHqJ,!jQE)pwU,lNVBMiO9hH2mg~~_1.JPG)
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Just down the road from me - where the invasion started in a certain sci-fi classic... ;)
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That white one..... drool..... :o
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How common are these - never seen one before...?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-VINTAGE-RICKENBACKER-2030-HAMBURG-BASS-GUITAR-/220627758480?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335e706d90 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-VINTAGE-RICKENBACKER-2030-HAMBURG-BASS-GUITAR-/220627758480?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335e706d90)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!Bm1c)Eg!2k~$(KGrHqMH-EMEtrLW3Tt9BLhE9I47z!~~_3.JPG)
Same site also has this... make that these...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!BnqT--QBmk~$(KGrHqMOKjMEtkGM0pMSBLkYYUGqBw~~_3.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!BuQk)!w!mk~$(KGrHqF,!iUEv1+0EYv3BL+llg3gUg~~_3.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!Bz-4hS!!mk~$(KGrHqEOKjEE)T(ZLuKFBMYYC7yQ0!~~_12.JPG)
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How common are these - never seen one before...?
In the Register on the RickResource forum there are 1526 4003's and 26 2030's registered. This should give a relative indication.
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Rare, but for a reason: they never really caught on.
These were RIC's attempt at a budget bass that will appeal to the Fender crowd, but it didn't.
They usually go for $500-800.
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In that case, severely over-priced... ;)
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They usually go for $500-800.
Prices are climbing for the budget Ricks. I have 800 euro in mind for the 2030. And I even saw a couple of 3000's with non original pickups go for 800+ (euro).
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He wants somewhat more than that...
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A customer of mine bought a 2030 when he was in the US about three years ago, and the guy selling it was asking $400. He wasnt really that interested, but just as a joke, he offer to pay $300 with case included. The guy just asked: cash?
So he bought it just because he felt like he was doing the deal of his life.
Anyway, after coming back home, here in Brazil, he just didnt care for the tone and tried to sell it and make a profit. But this model is pretty much unheard of here, so he just couldnt sell it for the price he wanted and wasnt too keen on making it even.
So he brought it to me and we ended up replacing the pickups for some custom wound high output pickups from a local brand. He managed to sell the original pickups for the price he paid for the whole bass and case.
BTW, after the pickup change, it became his main axe.
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How common are these - never seen one before...?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-VINTAGE-RICKENBACKER-2030-HAMBURG-BASS-GUITAR-/220627758480?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335e706d90 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-VINTAGE-RICKENBACKER-2030-HAMBURG-BASS-GUITAR-/220627758480?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335e706d90)
Remember this thread? http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=3951.0
The memory is the first thing to go. ;)
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Silver threads and golden needles... :P
Good grief, it's hard enough for me to remember what I did yesterday... that was months ago, err... Dave, isn't it...? ;D
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4003S/5 BT (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003S5BT-/290489498612?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a285fbf4#ht_484wt_1156)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/07/!B526yZwBWk~$(KGrHqYOKi4EyZ(fWP!ZBMvOkoPR0!~~_1.JPG)
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Do 4003-5ers go for that much?
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Hard to tell, not that many for sale, and this one is especially nice and in mint condition. I guess $2,500 is okay, but it's still below his reserve price.
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I only played a 4003-5 once, at one of the Guitar Centers here in the late 90s. They were asking $500. It was in very good shape but the string spacing made a Hofner feel wide by comparison. Hard to see much demand except as a collectible.
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I like narrow string spacing on fivers (I play 99% pick) and if I ever buy one, I'll string it with a high C.
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Even with a pick it's narrow to me. Guitar-type spacing is fine with guitar strings, not so much with thicker strings.
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I used to play an A-width Fender Bass VI and a Dano tic-tac bass... I suppose I'll be fine ;D
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David McDonald is selling his 4002 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1978-Rickenbacker-4002-Bass-Guitar-/110603740251?pt=Guitar&hash=item19c07f245b#ht_704wt_1139)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!B6jm)j!EGk~$(KGrHqF,!jkEybbit-Z3BM)wUb4Zn!~~_12.JPG)
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Red w/WHITE & CHROME TRIM (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Bass-4003-1984-/270654986551?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f044b5937#ht_500wt_1156)! Pretty rare.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!B6kCEFQBmk~$(KGrHqYOKnUEy0FyLLskBM))(P2Wrw~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!B6kCHeQEGk~$(KGrHqIOKnUEy0QNRfh)BM))((,iD!~~_12.JPG)
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David McDonald is selling his 4002 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1978-Rickenbacker-4002-Bass-Guitar-/110603740251?pt=Guitar&hash=item19c07f245b#ht_704wt_1139)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!B6jm)j!EGk~$(KGrHqF,!jkEybbit-Z3BM)wUb4Zn!~~_12.JPG)
SOME day I'll have one of those in Autumnglo. C'mon Lotto!
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Red w/WHITE & CHROME TRIM (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Bass-4003-1984-/270654986551?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f044b5937#ht_500wt_1156)! Pretty rare.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!B6kCEFQBmk~$(KGrHqYOKnUEy0FyLLskBM))(P2Wrw~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!B6kCHeQEGk~$(KGrHqIOKnUEy0QNRfh)BM))((,iD!~~_12.JPG)
Love those Rubies!!!! I have had 4 over the years
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I wasn't sure if this was red or Ruby... hard to tell from the pic if it's metallic.
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I wasn't sure if this was red or Ruby... hard to tell from the pic if it's metallic.
It's Ruby, the red does not have the metallic glow...
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Lefty '71 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-MapleGlo-Lefty-/270659756812?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f0494230c#ht_2007wt_1139)
(http://www.route66guitars.com/files/dscn0153.png)
(http://www.route66guitars.com/files/dscn0154.png)
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Cool!
Wish there were more pics to drool on...
Have anyone ever seeing a pre '73 with the full width inlays, half-inch spaced toaster but with single binding instead of the checkerd?
Just wondering, since Ric apears to have some instruments with overlaping features during transition periods.
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No, never. First the crushed pearl inlays were replaced by poured material, then the inlays got shorter (around May '73), 3-4 months later the checkerboard binding was gone, some time during that year the toasters were replaced with button-tops, and it took another whole year for the 1" spacing (all 74's were half-inch) and raised-letter TRC's. During the transitional period, the neck pickup cavity was routed for both 1" and half-inch spacing.
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4080 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Double-Neck-4080-Azureglo-/120651754219?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c1767aaeb#ht_720wt_1139) in Azureglo - my favorite Ric fin...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B9+tc6QBmk~$(KGrHqV,!g0EzeElrFQ2BM7(tcTsMQ~~_1.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B9+tiQ!CGk~$(KGrHqJ,!igEzNzELq57BM7(tnTc-g~~_1.JPG)
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Wrong colour for Geddy clones... ;)
When did Lemmy have the logo replaced by Rickenb*st*rd...?
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Can't remember ever seeing a 4080 with white pick guards and truss cover, some may have been special order perhaps.
The first series with the small bodies were so much more well proportioned IMO, but then the neck joint for the bass was so weaky.
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And now this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-1975-Rickenbacker-doubleneck-guitars-4080-362-12-/330501335792?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4cf36a2af0#ht_500wt_1156)... Two 1975 AZG doublenecks - 4080 and 362/12
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!B-Rhs0QEWk~$(KGrHqJ,!h!EzeRUTwIeBM8Rl+q93g~~_3.JPG)
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Bloody Hell!, just wait though this may be where we find that 4080's aren't so rare :mrgreen:.
Note the smaller body on this one, very nice proportions.
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Wow, beautiful. And verified by Dale Fortune.
These ought to fetch the BIN or an offer close to it.
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The 4080 needs white guards.
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Thanks Dave, I didn't notice that...
"My name is Dale Fortune. I worked at the Rickenbacker Guitar Factory from 1972 through 1976. I remember when we did this special run and build of these instruments. They were hand built in the woodshop as a special order. I personally did a lot of the wood working and binding steps on both instruments. I also made and fitted the top nuts, side dot markers and drilled the tuning machine holes in all 4 necks. These were built in the days when most everything was done by hand. You have a very nice and rare set of Rickenbacker double neck instruments. Dale Fortune"
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The 4080 needs white guards.
How come, I thought all 4080's had Black gaurds/truss covers.
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You are probably correct, some (possibly most?) 4080's had guards in contrasting color from the binding. Still, I'd swap them for white, in my opinion Azureglo looks best with white guards, white binding and chrome hardware.
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Yes I see and +1 on the white for the Azureglo, I suppose if you had ordered a 4080 you could have white perspex if you liked. It's one of those Ric things I like, where each product is just a little different and it seems similar, but there's always one small change, take the 480 guitar, they never had triangle inlays, etc, and then of course the black truss covers for the 4080.
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If someone gets both of those they're gonna have one helluva Happy Christmas altho it'll be a Blue Christmas!! :D
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Nice 72 Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1972-RICKENBACKER-RICK-RIC-4001-ELECTRIC-BASS-/290507473510?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a3984266#ht_15113wt_1140)...
(http://www.warpdrivemusic.com/images/JohnM1/LL1661.01.jpg)
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Nice 72 Jetglo[/url]...
Now there's an understatement! :o Very nice...
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Without the switch tip, I dunno......
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Without the switch tip, I dunno......
That reduces the value by at least $3000. Offer him $800.
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That one belongs to me now :mrgreen: even with the switch tip lol
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Awesome! Congrats! :toast:
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Congrats. I hope it plays as good as it looks.
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Good for you! That is a nice looking bass.
Now, I hope the switch tip is an original.
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Should see it later this week On Friday!Cant wait to get my sweaty hands on it :mrgreen: It should be a killer bass! I know that it has no issues what so ever so its really just a matter of setting up to my taste.I got the bass for 3K even wich is way to much to pay for a 4001 but considering its the rarer (for pre 73) jetglo and in really nice shape!i couldnt resist.even my wife was cool with it!She's a major jetglo fan.She's loves my black 66 jazz bass as well.Now ya gotta love a woman that would let her man deal out 3K for a bass on a wim like that.as for the switch tip,It is original to the bass.Why it was off and in the case i will never know.
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as for the switch tip,It is original to the bass.Why it was off and in the case i will never know.
Maybe the previous owner took the tip off to avoid flipping the switch unintentionally when playing with a pick.
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Congrats, she's a beauty!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/1960s-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4000-4-string-bass-guitar-/260704696579?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb335f903
Cool '67 4000.
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Where is the horseshoe?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/02!B+,Scc!!Wk~$(KGrHqR,!hwEzLZ7Wwm(BM+li1FLbg~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22!B+,Sbgg!Wk~$(KGrHqF,!iUEzN3MUC8QBM+lizB3kQ~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/19!B+,ScIwCGk~$(KGrHqJ,!hYEze!PSTv6BM+li0Y0j!~~_12.JPG)
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Where is the horseshoe?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/02!B+,Scc!!Wk~$(KGrHqR,!hwEzLZ7Wwm(BM+li1FLbg~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22!B+,Sbgg!Wk~$(KGrHqF,!iUEzN3MUC8QBM+lizB3kQ~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/19!B+,ScIwCGk~$(KGrHqJ,!hYEze!PSTv6BM+li0Y0j!~~_12.JPG)
probably under the later cover...or it was Macca modded in the 70's
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A '67 pickup will not work with a chrome-plated plastic cover. It needs the horseshoe magnets. It's not like the reissue pickups where the shoes are just cosmetic, aren't magnetized and can be removed). The pickup must be a newer hi-gain.
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Nice 1972 Mapleglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/230561247398?pt=Guitar&hash=item35ae8570a6#ht_500wt_1156) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B+jpmjwB2k~$(KGrHqIOKnUEz1)bkvt)BM++6NzW)w~~_1.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/03/!B+jpW0Q!Wk~$(KGrHqEOKpQEy+jC0(BFBM++5p(6lw~~_1.JPG)
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'71 Glueburst with wide pickguard (http://cgi.ebay.com/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-/190480019951?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c597e71ef#ht_1600wt_1139).
No shedua strip.
The '72 MG in the previous post also had some discoloration along the edges, possibly a reaction of the binding glue?
Anyway this one is a more serious case of glueburst. Otherwise nice and not yellowed, maybe (according to the seller) from spending most of its life in the case.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!C!Gb4B!BWk~$(KGrHqIOKjYEzmRmHvuZBNBt3c1NSg~~_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!C!GfFGwBWk~$(KGrHqMOKjkEzJ08J5DBBNBu!6Y3Dg~~_3.JPG)
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I have seen a lot of Glueburst japanese copies before, first time I am seeing a real Ric like that.
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I've seen Rics with varying degrees of glueburst. There is no definite answer to what causes it - here's the latest controversy between Paul Wilczynski and Dale Fortune:
http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=398761
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Another '71 glueburst (http://cgi.ebay.com/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-/170579617244?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b75665dc#ht_794wt_1139) - this one has the shedua center strip and narrower pickguard. The horseshoe pickup is a reissue.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!C!LyorwEWk~$(KGrHqMOKi8EzwNljqhCBNB-o)mDgw~~_3.JPG)
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I've seen Rics with varying degrees of glueburst. There is no definite answer to what causes it - here's the latest controversy between Paul Wilczynski and Dale Fortune:
http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=398761
I'll have to go with Dale on this one.
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Really strange.... been playing Rics on and off for over 30 years and never seen this. Now TWO in one month?
Paul's reasoning sounds completely logical to me.
I'd have it painted Azureglo. ;D
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I'll have to go with Dale on this one.
Yes, me too. There are three 71-72 gluebursts on eBay now - they can't all be stripped basses that the sellers failed to disclose.
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Yes, me too. There are three 71-72 gluebursts on eBay now - they can't all be stripped basses that the sellers failed to disclose.
Very good point. OK, I'm going neutral on this. 8)
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I respect Paul's knowledge, but when there's a direct explanation by someone who was there, I'll go with that.
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I think Paul locked the thread just because he realized that Dales argument makes much more sense than his.
I can understand that someone might have been lazy when striping an old finish, but why other people would be doing the same thing?
There are a number of Rics like that, and there are japanese copies like that aswell.
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One thing you all have to remember here.Dale fortune was working at Rickenbacker in 1972! He probably finished the same instruments were talking about.Fortune is a full blown pro that knows his craft! and especially Rickenbacker.He has built and repaired more ricks then weve all seen!
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Dale is the man! I sent my '72 Eggplant to him for a refret/refinish on the fingerboard. He turned it from this:
(http://i56.tinypic.com/t9wjle.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2e1x1tx.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/k2hhxg.jpg)
Into this:
(http://i56.tinypic.com/oucrr9.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/a4ucfr.jpg)
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Nice! Hope he didn't ship it to you in that tiny little case. ;)
That whole glueburst topic was pretty interesting, both here and on Ric Resource.
First, I love the "glueburst" title and it made sense as soon as I saw that first photo.
Second, I'd have to defer to someone who built them 35 years ago.
Third, 35 years does odd things to wood, metal, plastic, etc., and two seemingly identical things built at the same time by the same person with the exact same materials and procedures may end up not being identical at all (I know this from owning Italian motorcycles ;D ).
Fourth, unless I missed something, all the pics of "gluebursts" were checkerboard bound basses. Did it happen to post-checkerboards I wonder.
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Good points Denis. Dale actually shipped it in the original black tolex case that came with it. The Eggplant had some wear around the binding but none of the Glueburst effect.
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Paul does excellent work. And if he were scared that Dale would make him look bad, he would have just deleted those posts.
He's in his position at RRF because of Peter McCormick, not John Hall.
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Cool custom paint job on this '77 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1977-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Custom-Paint-Job-/220712557651?pt=Guitar&hash=item33637e5c53#ht_4195wt_1139):
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5269193704_08b47e7c53.jpg)(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5268582535_369375346b.jpg)
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Cool custom paint job on this '77 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1977-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Custom-Paint-Job-/220712557651?pt=Guitar&hash=item33637e5c53#ht_4195wt_1139):
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5269193704_08b47e7c53.jpg)(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5268582535_369375346b.jpg)
I want that one...it would go good with my other painted Rick!!!!
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Cool custom paint job on this '77 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1977-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Custom-Paint-Job-/220712557651?pt=Guitar&hash=item33637e5c53#ht_4195wt_1139):
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5269193704_08b47e7c53.jpg)(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5268582535_369375346b.jpg)
Not sure about the binding.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/1960s-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4000-4-string-bass-guitar-/260704696579?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb335f903
Cool '67 4000.
And now, back to our regular scheduled program! (or programme)
The '67 4000 sold for $5655! :o
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The custom paint job looks cool indeed, but I am not sure if it is a well made pro paint job. It might look good on the pictures, but could be a different story up close and personal. And even if it is a well made job, I think it is overpriced for the vintage and the bridge and tuners mods.
Anyway, I love the look of the schaller tuners on 70s headstock. But the badass bridge always turns me off, even though string spacing looks ok, which is a good thing compared to a lot of Rics out there with badass bridges and strings falling off the fingerboard on high frets.
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The custom paint job looks cool indeed, but I am not sure if it is a well made pro paint job. It might look good on the pictures, but could be a different story up close and personal. And even if it is a well made job, I think it is overpriced for the vintage and the bridge and tuners mods.
Anyway, I love the look of the schaller tuners on 70s headstock. But the badass bridge always turns me off, even though string spacing looks ok, which is a good thing compared to a lot of Rics out there with badass bridges and strings falling off the fingerboard on high frets.
I emailed the seller (who by the way is a store wannabe) and offered him an OG 89 Mid Blue w/BT in trade and he told me that he could not do it even up....I stopped emailing at that point.
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The '67 4000 sold for $5655! :o
Holy crap!
How times change. I remember about 7 years ago at the Pit, Mark Furlong found a seller in Chicago wanting to sell a 67 or 68 4000 and a big Transonic amp. IIRC the bass was $1800. Scotty Allen wound up buying it.
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The custom paint job looks cool indeed, but I am not sure if it is a well made pro paint job. It might look good on the pictures, but could be a different story up close and personal. And even if it is a well made job, I think it is overpriced for the vintage and the bridge and tuners mods.
Anyway, I love the look of the schaller tuners on 70s headstock. But the badass bridge always turns me off, even though string spacing looks ok, which is a good thing compared to a lot of Rics out there with badass bridges and strings falling off the fingerboard on high frets.
Exactly what I meant with the binding, looks like its been glued back on top of the over spray :o.
He needed a Badass 1 really.
I'm a Badass fan, but my hate is seeing the little hand made covers held on using screws, that's unacceptable.
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If I had to make a guess, I would say that the 77 was a jetglo that had the white added to it...I need to look again at the binding but considering ALL the mods that have been done to this bass, it is hardly worth the 2199 price tag...
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Jaymi, that is a classic example of because its a vintage rick its worth lots of cash syndrome.I cant believe he turned down the midnight blue man.realistically the 77 is just a player now.Its not worth anywhere near what an unmolested rick is worth.At a player standpoint im sure its a cool bass(i like it)but i wouldnt pay over 1k for that in the open market.Your midnight blue BT is worth at least 1,650.00.At a player standpoint.The badass (badass 1)is a great mod when done correctly.And adds incredible meat to the tone of a rick as well as unsurpassed adjustability.Its just hard to get around not having the look of the original bridge at a purest standpoint.
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Holy crap!
How times change. I remember about 7 years ago at the Pit, Mark Furlong found a seller in Chicago wanting to sell a 67 or 68 4000 and a big Transonic amp. IIRC the bass was $1800. Scotty Allen wound up buying it.
You are correct Dave, it was 1800 for that 68 4000 that Scotty bought. It was a natural, not a fireglow, but it was in great shape. Same story as this seller, one owner, retired musician bought if for his wife in 68. Over 5K is a lot for the one that just sold. I'm always amazed by what people will pay for things. But it will probably sell for 10K in a few years.
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You and I thought that 1800 was a little high back then.
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It was, back then.
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Jaymi, that is a classic example of because its a vintage rick its worth lots of cash syndrome.I cant believe he turned down the midnight blue man.realistically the 77 is just a player now.Its not worth anywhere near what an unmolested rick is worth.At a player standpoint im sure its a cool bass(i like it)but i wouldnt pay over 1k for that in the open market.Your midnight blue BT is worth at least 1,650.00.At a player standpoint.The badass (badass 1)is a great mod when done correctly.And adds incredible meat to the tone of a rick as well as unsurpassed adjustability.Its just hard to get around not having the look of the original bridge at a purest standpoint.
plus, it would have to be killer to outdo the Midnight blue....
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Welcome home Jaymi :)The midnight blue is a sweet bass!
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Another '71 glueburst (http://cgi.ebay.com/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-/170579617244?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b75665dc#ht_794wt_1139) - this one has the shedua center strip and narrower pickguard. The horseshoe pickup is a reissue.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!C!LyorwEWk~$(KGrHqMOKi8EzwNljqhCBNB-o)mDgw~~_3.JPG)
Here's one that I rebound, refretted and refinished 2years ago. It was all original with the same problem. In the early 70s we used straight Acetone to install the binding, ithad a leaching effect on a certain batch of B/W binding that caused this.
Before
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/GuitarWork/January2009005.jpg)
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/GuitarWork/January2009007.jpg)
After Restoration
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/GuitarWork/GuitarWorkMay011.jpg)
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After Restoration
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/GuitarWork/GuitarWorkMay011.jpg)
Wow, I like that! Would you call that Autumnglo? Walnut? Montezuma Brown? Or none of the above... ???
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Montezuma Brown...It's basically a Gibson tabacco burst color
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That looks much better than the Montezuma Brown 4003 I had.
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Here's another '72 Mapleglo - this time a non-glueburst ;D. The seller is Bryce Gracey. $2,949 BIN price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-RICKENBACKER-4001-Mapleglo-Lemmy-Connection-/220717561602?pt=Guitar&hash=item3363cab702#ht_12442wt_1139
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f156/Brycycle/1972%20Rickenbacker/10.jpg)
Note the shedua wood at the tip of the "cresting wave"...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f156/Brycycle/1972%20Rickenbacker/19.jpg)
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Could be wrong but that looks like a 4003 pup shroud.
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Yep!Cresting wave was cut to shallow on the peghead.First time ive ever seen the shedua in the wave.Thats the beauty of a then hand made instrument. :)
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Yep!Cresting wave was cut to shallow on the peghead.First time ive ever seen the shedua in the wave.Thats the beauty of a then hand made instrument. :)
yep, I have seen a few done like that! looks like a nice bass regardless.
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Jaymi.Post a pic of your custom 4001 :mrgreen:
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Refin'ed '78 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Restored-1978-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-/170589190946?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b7e87b22#ht_652wt_1139). Routed for a P pickup under the pickguard.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!CCUmC(g!Wk~$(KGrHqMOKi0E0n2hln(iBNKv8vLtPg~~_3.JPG)
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That's pretty!
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Refin'ed '78 4000 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Restored-1978-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-/170589190946?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b7e87b22#ht_652wt_1139). Routed for a P pickup under the pickguard.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!CCUmC(g!Wk~$(KGrHqMOKi0E0n2hln(iBNKv8vLtPg~~_3.JPG)
and of course, too much $$$ for a refin with a rout.
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and of course, too much $$$ for a refin with a rout.
Absolutely. Looks great though.
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The $3,500 BIN price is borderline insane IMHO but the pics are drool worthy.
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Borderline? I'd say full blown insane!LOL
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$3500?? For half that I'd consider it. I'd love to get a replacement pickguard and put a P-Bass pickup back in it.
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Or just mount the pup under the pickguard, best of both worlds. :D
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This one is interesting - assuming it's original - an '81 4003 in what looks like Walnut (glossy Autumnglo), black plastic and CHECKERBOARD BINDING (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-Fireglo-Bass-Checkerboard-Binding-/180613511561?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0d677989#ht_500wt_1156). Anyway if it's a FG, it's an unusual application of this finish. Could be a refin, or another RIC "experimental model".
I'm thinking refin because the TRC has a white corner that suggests a white TRC that was sprayed black.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!CC8fuc!BGk~$(KGrHqR,!hQE0ehGKCUVBNM4i9,!U!~~_1.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!CC8ftGQCWk~$(KGrHqR,!jgE0vlrNOmcBNM4i4oERg~~_1.JPG)
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I've seen that one before. Great looking bass. I know there were a few oddballs that escaped the factory with checkerboard binding in the 80s. The finish IS unusual though. Either way, probably worth the opening bid.
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I've seen that one before. Great looking bass. I know there were a few oddballs that escaped the factory with checkerboard binding in the 80s. The finish IS unusual though. Either way, probably worth the opening bid.
yeah, could be fun....remember they sent all kinds of unique basses out of the country to support high spending levels in places like Japan.....nice of them to remember us!!!
I would play it.. ;)
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Nice 72 Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1972-RICKENBACKER-RICK-RIC-4001-ELECTRIC-BASS-/290507473510?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a3984266#ht_15113wt_1140)...
(http://www.warpdrivemusic.com/images/JohnM1/LL1661.01.jpg)
Congrats, ww! Beautiful
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And another stunning early '73 Fireglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-CB-BINDING-FW-INLAYS-/290526087439?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a4b4490f#ht_7064wt_1139):
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/dbwinn/Rickenbackers/2011-01-19125803.jpg)
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And another stunning early '73 Fireglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-CB-BINDING-FW-INLAYS-/290526087439?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a4b4490f#ht_7064wt_1139):
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/dbwinn/Rickenbackers/2011-01-19125803.jpg)
YOWZAH! Gorgeous! ...altho the backside ain't perfect.
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(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/dbwinn/Rickenbackers/2011-01-19125836.jpg)
I never minded an honest player's wear. The buyer will be able to play the bass and not worry about putting a dent in a museum piece.
BTW, we now know the seller's favorite keys, right? ;D
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/dbwinn/Rickenbackers/2011-01-19125826.jpg)
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320647393777
Non Wavy Grovers, relieved bridge pup shroud, finger rest etc.
Saw it Tuesday eve, drove up on Wednesday morning and bought it, a little more than the asking price. Seriously needs a good clean, A string frets are not so good, otherwise as far as I can see that's it. It was apparently a one owner. Can't believe the difference in weight to my 79, Cleaning now, pic's later.
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Congratulations, looking forward to the cleaned-up pics. If you only paid a bit above £1,200 then I think you got a good deal.
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;D Well, not quite, I would say around the normal rate, roughly translated a bit less than Weekend Warriors recent Jetglo.
Very thin Magnet on the bridge pup, which measures 12.5K and 6.5K on the neck pup.
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Great deal! What a looker!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!CDrDcLgBGk~$(KGrHqMOKi0E0n2hln(iBNPZew34cQ~~_1.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!CDrDsS!EWk~$(KGrHqQOKnEEz2TZ,fVUBNPZfkUQPg~~_1.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!CDrEdp!CWk~$(KGrHqIOKjwE08mNPR+0BNPZiKVjE!~~_1.JPG)
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A rare 2030 Glenn Frey bass (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1993-RICKENBACKER-GLENN-FREY-2030-BASS-4003-4001-/180617584097?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0da59de1#ht_500wt_1156). Basically a 2020 with Blackstar appointments.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!CD5)PCQ!2k~$(KGrHqYOKiwE0qN3Q7ReBNQHhIrG0g~~_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!CD5)RSQ!mk~$(KGrHqIOKnEEz2T,)jLGBNQHhNeG0Q~~_3.JPG)
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poop ;D
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An 8-stringer (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Jet-Glo-4003s-8-8-string-bass-/140506637844?pt=Guitar&hash=item20b6d92614#ht_500wt_1156), it's been a long time since the last one on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!CEL1)y!BWk~$(KGrHqEOKjkE0Yv1UgOlBNRGflGUSg~~_12.JPG)
EDIT: ended at $2,650, 6 bids, reserve not met.
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A non-glueburst '73 MG (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Checkerboard-toaster-crush-224-/200574197525?pt=Guitar&hash=item2eb3275f15#ht_67578wt_1139)... I like it that it has players wear.
So many Mapleglo checkerboards on eBay lately.
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/dangerdog777/008/224/DSC_0259.jpg)
Tons of hi-res pics.
I'm not sure but I think I see a repaired neck crack where it typically happens when the rods are tightened without support.
No pics under the tailpiece but the holes on either side may indicate that a non-original bridge was there at one time. I'm guessing a BadAss and the holes are for a plate to cover the larger Ric tailpiece footprint. I'm pretty sure it's routed for a BA under the Ric tailpiece (which is repositioned too high, it's not dead on the center line).
The wiring is a mess. An extra hole in the pickguard is another evidence.
Non original strap buttons.
No handrest. Slot-head height adjustment screws.
Bridge pickup reversed - usually the wear mark is on top (bobbin used as thumb anchor)
Deteriorating crushed pearl inlays.
Looks like a refret.
I don't like what's under the TRC. Another makeshift spacer and the plate isn't in place.
Reissue neck toaster with longer magnets.
Bridge pickup route was widened, but the surround covers it.
Mute pad looks too new. One thumb screw is also probably new.
TRC is wrong, should have the MADE IN USA sideways, parallel to the nut. Probably from a v63.
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'71 Burg (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Burgundyglo-1971-/250770219679?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a6311e29f#ht_500wt_1156), wide pickguard, tug bar:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!CFHf+0wBGk~$(KGrHqR,!h!E0fgDjE7jBNUF(18hnw~~_12.JPG)
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Tasty burgundy! Need money....
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'71 Burg (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Burgundyglo-1971-/250770219679?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a6311e29f#ht_500wt_1156), wide pickguard, tug bar:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!CFHf+0wBGk~$(KGrHqR,!h!E0fgDjE7jBNUF(18hnw~~_12.JPG)
One of my fave colours and that maple looks awesome on the back shot. Truss rods look like they've been pulled out past the neck pup route. Oh and def looks like a re varnish on the neck.
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Shadow (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4003-SHADOW-BASS-JETGLOW-1986-/180624042412?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0e0829ac#ht_769wt_905) in the UK... my favorite Ric model.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!CFZJoJ!B2k~$(KGrHqJ,!l4E1FrvjsZ3BNU9Moiv)w~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!CFZJk0!CWk~$(KGrHqJ,!iYE1MHyVsZsBNU9Mb)Sug~~_12.JPG)
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Shadow (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4003-SHADOW-BASS-JETGLOW-1986-/180624042412?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0e0829ac#ht_769wt_905) in the UK... my favorite Ric model.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!CFZJoJ!B2k~$(KGrHqJ,!l4E1FrvjsZ3BNU9Moiv)w~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!CFZJk0!CWk~$(KGrHqJ,!iYE1MHyVsZsBNU9Mb)Sug~~_12.JPG)
you should grab it, then you can have 2!!!! ;)
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Gorgeous Walnut (glossy Autumnglo) 4001 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Rickenbacker-Autumnglo-4001-Bass-FREE-SHIPPING-/220739414254?pt=Guitar&hash=item33651828ee#ht_7834wt_1139) - almost Black Trim but the fretboard binding is white, and the body binding is pinstripe.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5442817439_722e207270_z.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5443420988_36473a1296_z.jpg)
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Gorgeous is right!
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Damn, that is beautiful...
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What the dillyo on this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-PROJECT-MESS-NR-/250773253289?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a63402ca9#ht_11094wt_1141
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It's a mess alright. Could be a great project. I posted your link in the Projects, Mods & Repairs section, in Dale Fortune's thread, to get his opinion as the resident Ric restoration specialist.
How many 63's with Deluxe features have we seen for sale?
As long as the carcass is there, the neck is functional and the numbered jack plate is there, this bass can come back to life as a restored real '63. And sell for a lot of money. As long as the restoration is done properly.
The real shame is the missing part of the binding on top. I'm sure this can be taken care of by a skilled luthier. Then a refin in an opaque CV color can hide the abuse. I'd go with Jetglo as this has been RIC's traditional choice for less attractive bodies.
It's an expensive restoration but think of the end result.
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The real shame is the missing part of the binding on top. I'm sure this can be taken care of by a skilled luthier. Then a refin in an opaque CV color can hide the abuse. I'd go with Jetglo as this has been RIC's traditional choice for less attractive bodies.
It's an expensive restoration but think of the end result.
That IS tragic. Might as well remove the whole wing and put a new one on there.
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I spotted that (binding) on the other thread, Ilan, but the pic looks like it's significantly rounded off, and then re-finned... I'd think that would be a real Tivall Frankie to put right... ;)
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I talked to Dale yesterday and asked him his opinion on this bass.He said he could fix that massaged upper wing without replacing it!Rebind that small section as well.With a new finish on it you would never be able to tell it was repaired.I questioned him about the pickup routes too and he told me they were all original except for the obvious p route and a few extra screw holes.This would be a great player.As far as anything else goes,If you could find the original correct parts(wich would take you years if at all)it would be way to expensive to restore compared to its worth as a refurbed bass.even with reissue parts its a pretty big undertaking on a bass that is only going to fetch between2,500.00 to 3K when completed.I wouldnt kick out of my guitar rack though :mrgreen:
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:o totally...
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A freind of mine is thinking about bidding and just putting the bare minimum on it to make it playable. He likes "Mojo".
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(http://img.iwascoding.com/1/2011/02/13/99/675A2BA9CF3D437EAB24804A40495989.jpg)
Sold for $1,525.
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'73 4000 with custom artwork... (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Rickenbacker-Custom-Art-4000-Bass-FREE-SHIPPING-/220738782532?pt=Guitar&hash=item33650e8544#ht_7841wt_1139) I love it. Shame about the pickup though.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5439232909_e2465ee8bd_z.jpg)(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5439232113_35f74e2b38_z.jpg)
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Looks like an emg HB!Wonder what kind of scaryness is under the guard to accomodate the battery HMNNNNN......
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I'm jury-out on the fin on this one at the moment... very different...
The machines are non standard, and three of one (budget) with the fourth being a Schaller...
Anyone know of an aritist called D Rice as thats the signing on the lower horn...? might make a difference for those that do ...
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I actually like the art work as art work a lot. If I bought it I would photograph it well, then sand it off and refin it! But I think the price is a tad high. This is the kind of bass I actually like as a platform to restore and maybe hot rod in a sleeper way, but that demands a price that acknowledges severe problems. And it is so high that you know they would not like a realistic offer. Too bad.
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Cool white refin on a v63 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-V63-White-USA-Bass-changed-parts-/270715013022?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f07df479e#ht_1586wt_1139)... Horseshoe is gone. What I don't understand is where did he find a vintage style black Plexi TRC??? You don't suppose this is FACTORY white?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKpgE1qz,q!sWBNb-V5SMPQ~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKnUE1OjcYQmiBNb-WMV-P!~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKkYE0++75R+hBNb-W7bP)w~~_12.JPG)
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Could be factory white. But are we sure this is a 4001v63 and not a 4001S with a toaster? I realize the neck pickup position is like a 4001v63 but we don't know what's under the pickguard.
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An S would have a dot at the 19th fret. It's also got the "broken tooth" tailpiece. Those black plexi TRCs pop up once in a great while. They used them at least until 75 I believe. Later than the white plexi....
And having said that.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's beautiful. I LOVE white Rics!
SOLD for $1600! I don't know if I'm pissed or relieved. OK, that's kinda the same thing... :D And I JUST got a shiny new horseshoe pup that could have called this bass "home"...
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Those black plexi TRCs pop up once in a great while. They used them at least until 75 I believe. Later than the white plexi....
Those black plexi TRC's that you are talking about had the MADE IN USA parallel to the nut, but this one has it under the Rickenbacker logo, like a 60's TRC. A nameplate like that would be impossible to find. This could mean either a factory one-off but could also be a counterfeit TRC.
Dave: the square heel makes it a v63.
$1,600... reasonable for a refin without the horseshoe, a steal if it's factory white.
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Scratchplate is not original, has edges as sharp as a knife, and the countersinks for the screws look undercut. White paint under the thumb rest screw holes, perhaps no holes. Bridge and surround are late die cast zinc, with the tooth broken by hand.
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Update... other sources trace the bass to its original owner, Ken Swearingen. So a refin it is.
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Dave: the square heel makes it a v63.
D'oh! It's been too many years but I should have remembered that. Plus (as Tom noted) the S has the 19th fret dot.
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Still a beautiful looking Lady...
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4005 Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4005-1967-jetglo-9-5-10-/190510300605?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c5b4c7dbd#ht_500wt_1156) - great color for 4005s IMHO. $13,500 starting bid.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKjoE1uCtlYTNBNduVTiq+g~~_1.JPG)
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And an exceptionally clean 4005 Fireglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Rickenbacker-4005-bass-FIREGLOW-/330540881070?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cf5c594ae#ht_15976wt_1139) - almost TOO clean.
(http://p4.hostingprod.com/@dtownguitars.com/guitars/RickBass/DSC07445.JPG)
(http://p4.hostingprod.com/@dtownguitars.com/guitars/RickBass/DSC07468.JPG)
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Odd wear on the headstock, too.
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It's possible that this has been mostly stored and suffered a scrape, or something in the case that allowed movement whilst being taken about - there are some (minor) dints if you look closely - nut has varnish partially removed - possibly same type of "case" movement that headstock suffered... longshot reasons...
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Assuming it's not a refin - I think this was a case queen, and in one of the rare occasions the bass was used, it has suffered a blow to the headstock. And then the owner panicked, put the bass back in the case, and never took it out again...
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4005 Jetglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4005-1967-jetglo-9-5-10-/190510300605?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c5b4c7dbd#ht_500wt_1156) - great color for 4005s IMHO. $13,500 starting bid.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKjoE1uCtlYTNBNduVTiq+g~~_1.JPG)
It's hard to be sure, from the photos, but it looks as though the bridge is not original--it looks identical to the bridge (also not original) that is on my '66 4005 WB--larger saddles, thumbwheels for bridge height adjustment, etc. Again, I might be wrong, but that's the way it looks on my monitor.
Here's mine for comparison:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/fredelig/4005a.jpg)
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2050 El Dorado (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-2050-El-Dorado-bass-Fretless-/180641239528?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0f0e91e8#ht_500wt_1156) - JG/gold hardware. Modded to fretless and the back of the neck is shaved - easy restoration. $799 starting bid. Rare bass and IMHO the prettiest of the 2000 Series.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqIOKm8E1SLw4sDVBNg871C)6!~~_1.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKkUE1pFpDe0FBNg882L82w~~_1.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKjME1)fquDZBBNg89S5D7w~~_1.JPG)
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Yep, a mighty fine lady...
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Quite a lot wrong here, if it's a 72 that is...... http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Rickenbacker-Fireglo-4001-Bass-FREE-SHIPPING-/220759560009?pt=Guitar&hash=item33664b8f49
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Agree. The body/neck is May-Aug '73, the jack plate serial number is May '72, and the TRC is post-'75.
Still a very nice Fireglo.
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And an exceptionally clean 4005 Fireglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Rickenbacker-4005-bass-FIREGLOW-/330540881070?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cf5c594ae#ht_15976wt_1139) - almost TOO clean.
(http://p4.hostingprod.com/@dtownguitars.com/guitars/RickBass/DSC07445.JPG)
(http://p4.hostingprod.com/@dtownguitars.com/guitars/RickBass/DSC07468.JPG)
Me want!!! (but not for 12K)
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An interesting one - 1982 Jetglo with black plastic and pinstripe double binding (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4003-Vintage-Bass-1982-Black-Beauty-/180649753882?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0f907d1a#ht_720wt_1139). I like one-offs from RIC. This precedes the Shadow by four years.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKpIE1qzFmO)OBNm2n,jjyw~~_3.JPG)
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That's in very nice shape.
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First time I see a Ric-Outlet one-off creation (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-Birdseye-Mapleglo-BH-BT-one-kind-/370499558586?pt=Guitar&hash=item56437e9cba#ht_500wt_1156) back on eBay. This one was made from old stock surplus 4002 body wings, with checkerboard binding. Half-inch neck pickup spacing... Doesn't get much cooler than this IMHO.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!i4E2KIRigK7BNnJsW(n-w~~_12.JPG)
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I'd have it re-finished in Autumnglo. 8)
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Norman's Rare Guitars (suppliers of Nigel Tufnel's collection!) have a cool 4005WB (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1966-RICKENBACKER-4005-DOUBLE-BOUND-MAPLEGLO-/180652872628?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0fc013b4#ht_524wt_1139):
(http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!B8W0vO!Bmk~$(KGrHqJ,!lsEy+jCvqsKBM2ydYr-Tw~~_12.JPG)
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A 4003SPC Tuxedo (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003SPC-Tuxedo-Bass-/230610690328?pt=Guitar&hash=item35b177e118#ht_500wt_1156) - starting at $1,500:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!hwE2JC,8hQVBNq2FTKbCQ~~_1.JPG)
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That's in reasonably good shape. Price ought to go well above the starting bid.
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Something about the overall design of the 4001/4003 keeps me from warming up to black pgs, trcs and hardware on them.
The yellow 4001 at Harry's even has black binding, though the tuners and pups are chrome.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1977-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-/260774234732?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cb75b0a6c
$1200 for a black 1977 4001!
Edit: Holy Crap! The bass didn't last 4 minutes on Ebay.
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Total bargain, ''seen lots of stages'', doesn't look that used, looks like a one owner and well looked after for sure.
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Tux went for $2100, that's about right.
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Jaymi (warriorbass05) is the winner. Congrats!
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Shadow (http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1986-RICKENBACKER-4003-SHADOW-BASS-GUITAR-/320693890299?pt=Guitar&hash=item4aaad86cfb#ht_2463wt_1139) with Peavey knobs... $2,500 BIN and a Best Offer option.
(http://media.use.com/images/s_2/0cda25a520528fa80d77_1.jpg?1)
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That's about $80-$100 in knobs alone! :D
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The one-off Ric-Outlet black-to-blueburst C64S is back on the 'bay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001C64S-4001-c64s-one-kind-NEW-2010-/370510944313?pt=Guitar&hash=item56442c5839#ht_500wt_1182), $4,250 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqN,!lcE3GtyDY9iBN0(CIjoyg~~_1.JPG)
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I love blue and black guitars. Just not on the same instrument!
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I love blue and black guitars. Just not on the same instrument!
Tsssk
(http://blaat.net/bass/rrf/blackandblue-01.jpg)
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I was talking about body colors, not binding. Not a big fan of bursts anyway.
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Jaymi (warriorbass05) is the winner. Congrats!
Thanks, yep I have it. March of 1987 Tux...
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Ruby '86 4003S/8 in Germany (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4003-S8-Bass-orig-1986-/120734074454?pt=Gitarren&hash=item1c1c4fc656#ht_662wt_1139). $2,185 starting bid, $2,767 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKjQE3!8PIKjpBN2Wzr(pfg~~_12.JPG)
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4002 Mapleglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-PRISTINE-Rare-hens-t-/140565134253?pt=Guitar&hash=item20ba55bbad#ht_12991wt_1139). $25,000 BIN... ???
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/1/0/5/5/4/webimg/482395151_o.jpg)
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4002 Mapleglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-PRISTINE-Rare-hens-t-/140565134253?pt=Guitar&hash=item20ba55bbad#ht_12991wt_1139). $25,000 BIN... ???
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"For Investors Only" LOL! Someone's dreaming.
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build a Rick
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-1982-Jetglo-4001-Bass-Body-Neck-/350460646969?pt=Guitar&hash=item5199151639
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If I remember correctly, that's the same guy who parts out what seems to be every single Ric he gets his hands on. :P
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If I remember correctly, that's the same guy who parts out what seems to be every single Ric he gets his hands on. :P
And Gibsons and Fenders.
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That one's got the rare pinstripe binding...
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And it's a 4003, not a 4001.
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Yep, early 80s body end TR adjustment proves it's a 4003.
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I like this one!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Stunning-Unique-Customised-JAM-/110712927502?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19c701350e
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00$(KGrHqR,!g4E3u-(GPBPBOGBSkts-!~~_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqIOKjYE4!eH220fBOGBSYybZw~~_1.JPG)
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Hard to see, could this be an early 4003?
It's neat, all right, but with binding and original pickguard removed I don't think it's worth anywhere near the opening bid. Someone else may think otherwise, though.
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Research can be fun...
Something intriguing about this... I narrowly missed a white EB2 (bought by Bruce Foxton) and ended up buying my Peter Cook from the same shop in my local town back in the late 70's... I followed the Jam (curiosity, not musically) after this...
This art is based on a classic 1963 pop-art painting by Roy Lichtenstein...
(http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T00/T00897_9.jpg)
Paul Weller had this 330...
(http://www.stthomasu.ca/~pmccorm/research/pwellerwhaam.jpg)
Further digging finds this link to a site producing replicas...
http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the_artist_series.html (http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the_artist_series.html)
What the true roots of this Ric I am uncertain but the seller placed the word "Jam" in his header...
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Research can be fun...
Something intriguing about this... I narrowly missed a white EB2 (bought by Bruce Foxton) and ended up buying my Peter Cook from the same shop in my local town back in the late 70's... I followed the Jam (curiosity, not musically) after this...
This art is based on a classic 1963 pop-art painting by Roy Lichtenstein...
(http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T00/T00897_9.jpg)
Paul Weller had this 330...
(http://www.stthomasu.ca/~pmccorm/research/pwellerwhaam.jpg)
Further digging finds this link to a site producing replicas...
http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the_artist_series.html (http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the_artist_series.html)
What the true roots of this Ric I am uncertain but the seller placed the word "Jam" in his header...
Why is a P-51 shooting down a F-86 ?????????
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Presumeably a bad depiction of a Mig - the original comic he reputedly based it on shows a Sabre shooting down a Mig...
(http://images.pricerunner.com/product/image/88923083/Whaam!-the-Art-and-Life-of-Roy-Lichtenstein.jpg)
(http://www.comicsgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AAMOW89-211-5.jpg)
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that lp centrefold is from the deviants lp i think.
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Cool and pretty rare '83 4001S in Burgundyglo (http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-Rickenbacker-4001S-Burgundy-Bass-w-Toaster-Exc-/150636444535?pt=Guitar&hash=item2312a1bb77#ht_500wt_1413).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1983-Rickenbacker-4001S-Burgundy-Bass-w-Toaster-Exc-/00/$(KGrHqIOKkIE4gocS8s,BOK39JKbTw~~_12.JPG)
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A 4001S that late?
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According to the David Axt list, the 4001 was discontinued in 1983 (some overlap with the 4003), 4001S discontinued sometime between 1984-86.
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I had heard there might be some overlap, don't remember seeing a confirmed example before.
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Set neck, by the way.
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Were all those late 4001S set neck?
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I think they were. Only the early 4001S/1999RM's were neck-thru.
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Rare 2030GF Glenn Frey sig (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-Glenn-Frey-Bass-Limited-Edition-/270792912032?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f0c83eca0#ht_500wt_1413) in the UK... The Blackstar of the 2000 Series
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-Glenn-Frey-Bass-Limited-Edition-/00$(KGrHqMOKicE3326-5RsBOJ06rSkOg~~_12.JPG)
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Wasn't there another of these on eBay recently?
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Gorgeous '72 FG (http://cgi.ebay.com/original-1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-FIREGLO-/150646458118?pt=Guitar&hash=item23133a8706#ht_46629wt_1396) - as always with Olivia's, tons of drool-worthy hi-res pics. Action is higher than my upright, though.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/72r4001fg81011/large/IMG_02253.JPG)
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You have to wonder if there's something up with the neck. Definitely not normal. That action's so high you could slide Calista Flockhart between the neck and strings.
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That action's so high you could slide Calista Flockhart between the neck and strings.
When you put it that way, the action doesn't seem all that high...
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I don't see the obligatory neck crack, so it's possible that the truss rods were never adjusted and the bass now wears medium or heavy gauge strings.
I used to like ridiculously low action (especially on Rics) but since moving to upright two years ago, it just feels awkward to the point that I had to raise string heights on most of my basses.
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1969 MG (http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-Rickenbacker-4001Bass-Mapleglo-1969-/200641918747?pt=Guitar&hash=item2eb730b71b#ht_1463wt_1139) - $8K BIN and a very high action (5mm at 12th fret).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1969-Rickenbacker-4001Bass-Mapleglo-1969-/00/$(KGrHqV,!isE4rSP(p4NBOOFNyvbKQ~~0_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1969-Rickenbacker-4001Bass-Mapleglo-1969-/00/$(KGrHqZ,!igE4u)rqGfdBOOFN3rIO!~~0_12.JPG)
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That is very nice. Ridiculously priced IMHO even if the action were good but you never know what a nice 60s Rick may bring.
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Kevin Teed has recently bought a Fireglo '69 that unlike this one has the earlier wide pickguard. Both basses have a half-rounded transitional heel shape and mono output.
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A white 2060 El Dorado (http://cgi.ebay.com/1992-Rickenbacker-2050-El-Dorado-Bass-Guitar-Eldorado-/230661461595?pt=Guitar&hash=item35b47e965b#ht_3421wt_1163) -
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/1074788/aview/Rickenbacker_2060_El_Dorado_05.jpg)(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/1074788/aview/Rickenbacker_2060_El_Dorado_01.jpg)(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/1074788/aview/Rickenbacker_2060_El_Dorado_10.jpg)
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Now that one's reasonably priced.
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Very nice... 8)
The seller of the Glen Frey pulled the sale and relisted at double the price...
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Very nice... 8)
The seller of the Glen Frey pulled the sale and relisted at double the price...
I don't think his marketing strategy will work. It's relatively rare but just not that valued by most Rick fans.
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1964 4001S/RM1999 FG in the UK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4001S-1964-SUPER-RARE-/390341132143?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5ae224ff6f#ht_760wt_1163) - $20,715 starting bid... odd looking thumb rests can be removed.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4001S-1964-SUPER-RARE-/00/$(KGrHqIOKj4E4tVVUtiRBOUjj!BIKQ~~48_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4001S-1964-SUPER-RARE-/00/$(KGrHqEOKkME4h,2TChqBOUjjGR1S!~~48_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4001S-1964-SUPER-RARE-/00/$(KGrHqUOKpwE4keSRelBBOUjjKdsNQ~~48_3.JPG)
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"WOULD LEAVE FOUR SMALL SCREW HOLES WHICH COULD EASILY BE FILLED TO BLEND IN WITH THE ORIGINAL FINISH."
Um... OK. Looks like a re-fin anyway.
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Um... OK. Looks like a re-fin anyway.
You think? looks original to me, some fading on the front and worn around the edges. Not my favorite shade of Fireglo, but okay.
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That looks original to me, never seen a refin in that version of FG.
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I'm definitely not an expert, but the edges look really strange to me, and the whole thing seems really light. I know there's not, but the way it's finished, it kind of has the look of having binding around the body. Is that how they did Fireglo in the 60s?
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There are many shades and applications of Fireglo, from very dark around the edges to very light orange, from nice gradual burst to clownburst like early 90's.
In this specimen the front is more faded than the back, and this is telling me that this bass spent large portions of its life on a wall hanger (or a stand) and not in a case. Refins are usually the same shade front and back.
The edges in S models are not rounded like Fenders, so when they wear with use they look like this.
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As has been pointed out on Rickresource, over spray on the worn part on the back at the neck join, kind of says it all.
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A Lemmy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4004-LK-Lemmy-Kilmister-Limited-Edition-4-60-/160650744208?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item256787d190#ht_500wt_1413)... Haven't seen one on eBay for a looooong time. Starting at $5,000, reserve price is apparently higher.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4004-LK-Lemmy-Kilmister-Limited-Edition-4-60-/00/s/Njg1WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqF,!lkE5YL+-DG0BObQ7CplQw~~60_3.JPG)
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Yow! $5000 wouldn't be bad considering the rarity. I wouldn't be surprised if this goes a lot higher, even in a recession. Reserve is probably well up there.
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[swoon] WOW [/swoon]
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THIS is one that you want. Late 80s "S" models are killer!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160652822630&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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If I were in the market, that would be the one. I regret passing on a late 80s mapleglo/BT S back in the late 90s, it was $500 at Guitar Center which was underpriced back then.
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THIS is one that you want. Late 80s "S" models are killer!
Just like my son's '87 but his has the 7-bolt tailpiece so no tail lift as the one on eBay... Killer bass and hands down the best of the 3 Rics in the house.
(http://www.rickresource.com/forum/download/file.php?id=34023)
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I have so many Ric's and never had a problem with tail lift, in fact I just thought it was an urban myth, until now.
That is a very good picture you've shot there, brilliant.
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A cool JG/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-bass-4003-blacked-out-1990-/230679683505?pt=Guitar&hash=item35b594a1b1#ht_500wt_1413) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-bass-4003-blacked-out-1990-/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqMOKkME5YHo1oZDBOhIc,jJ3g~~60_12.JPG)
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A '67 4005 FG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1967-RICKENBACKER-4005-FIREGLO-/110757017590?pt=Guitar&hash=item19c9a1f7f6#ht_11261wt_1396)... EDIT: some serious issues, almost certainly a refin, see next post for details.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6218540268_3049725cca_b.jpg)
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Mint, it seems not, discussed at length here, http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=402916&start=30
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Wow, thanks for the link, Sean. Not mint, definite neck repair and at least a neck refin. And if it is the same one restored by Dale Fortune, then it's a total refin with what was a serious neck break. Plus, the current seller has been warned in an earlier auction and is still misrepresenting it.
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Fretless '72 with the goodies (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1972-RICKENBACKER-RICKENBACHER-RICK-RIC-4001-FRETLESS-BASS-GUITAR-/360405014909?pt=Guitar&hash=item53e9d0197d#ht_14044wt_1396)... checkerboard, toaster, gap tooth bridge. What a beauty.
(http://www.warpdrivemusic.com/Images/JohnM2011.1/LL1756.01.jpg)
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[mortally wounded] beautiful... [/mortally wounded]
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You wait all year and then two come along at once... (British humour strikes again... ;D)
Blueburst Fretless '07 4003 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-2007-RICKENBACKER-FRETLESS-4003-BASS-GUITAR-STUNNING-BLUE-BURST-MINT-/220857830603?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item336c270ccb)...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg2ODE=/$(KGrHqUOKpoE5,)!Hc)wBOdkPRmwpQ~~60_3.JPG)
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Sorry, blueburst just doesn't appeal to me.
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That color of blue inspires lust in mah heart!
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A friend if mine who lives nearby in Israel has a FL BBR just like this one!
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Fretless '72 with the goodies (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1972-RICKENBACKER-RICKENBACHER-RICK-RIC-4001-FRETLESS-BASS-GUITAR-/360405014909?pt=Guitar&hash=item53e9d0197d#ht_14044wt_1396)... checkerboard, toaster, gap tooth bridge. What a beauty.
(http://www.warpdrivemusic.com/Images/JohnM2011.1/LL1756.01.jpg)
Just love that scene and with JG it just hits you :P
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'76 with pinstripe binding... bit of a rarity.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-guitar-1976-/280765931641?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item415ef42079#ht_500wt_1413
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Very nice. I never saw such an early example of the pinstripe.
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1979 Jetglo 4005 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SWEET-RARE-VINTAGE-1979-BLACK-RICKENBACKER-4005-BASS-GUITAR-EXCELLENT-4001-4003-/130596469000?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e6827f908#ht_9491wt_1396). IMHO they look best in JG.
(http://home.comcast.net/~musicgearama/IMG_3628.JPG)(http://home.comcast.net/~musicgearama/IMG_3620.JPG)
(http://home.comcast.net/~musicgearama/IMG_3626.JPG)(http://home.comcast.net/~musicgearama/IMG_3655.JPG)
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That one has seen a bit of life but still a beauty...
Is that a fair valuation for one of these...?
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Seems a tad high.
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'86 4003S JG/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4003-BASS-1986-RARE-ALL-BLACK-HARDWARE-FACTORY-FITTED-/200671749743?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2eb8f7e66f#ht_500wt_1413)! And the starting price is low, $1,282. Almost a Blackstar minus the enameled board (but with a bonus - 7-bolt lift-proof tailpiece).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4003-BASS-1986-RARE-ALL-BLACK-HARDWARE-FACTORY-FITTED-/00/s/MTA5M1g5ODM=/$(KGrHqMOKooE6eVU7UV4BOo01,Bijg~~60_12.JPG)
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That one might stay low, being an S. Very nice.
That JG 4005 is way too high. At least there's a Make Offer button.
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Another one-off "experimental finish" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/250935091643?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_542wt_1396) from Ric-outlet. This time a 4004Cii.
They call it "Brown Burst" - not Walnut or Montezuma Brown. Nice flame front and back.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4004Cii-Brown-Burst-One-Off-/00/s/MTAyNFg1NjA=/$(KGrHqIOKpcE6d+LCEEyBO)s)8qCKw~~60_12.JPG)
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Another one-off "experimental finish" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/250935091643?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_542wt_1396) from Ric-outlet. This time a 4004Cii.
They call it "Brown Burst" - not Walnut or Montezuma Brown. Nice flame front and back.
I like it! Did you see the Autumnglo 4003 someone was asking about on TalkBass? That was nice too!
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ATG used to be my least favorite Ric finish (with BBR and clownburst FG) but it grew on me and now I think of it as "old Hofner-glo".
"Walnut", the glossy version of ATG, looks great on 4002's: black binding really helps this finish look its best. Here's a gorgeous 4001 WAL w/pinstripe binding:
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I like the brown burst. Not exactly a tobaccoburst, but similar.
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Ishibashi offers a white v63 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4001-V-63-WHITE-1963-style-325345702-/270857155658?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f1058344a#ht_4693wt_1163) in Japan... "normal" headstock. Could be a refin, could be a one-off.
(http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/webshop/ebay/325345702/1.jpg)
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I have to start digging in the sofa.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1959-4000-bass-/370562629490?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item564740ff72
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I have to start digging in the sofa.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1959-4000-bass-/370562629490?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item564740ff72
IIRC we've seen that one within the past couple of years. Maybe it changed hands.
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-1959-4000-bass-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/$(KGrHqRHJBcE63Vg0Mu7BOzW2,l+cQ~~60_12.JPG)
RIC should do a limited run 4000v59.
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Another pinstripe-binding 4001 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1980-Rickenbacker-Model-4001-Bass-Jetglo-BLACK-BLACK-w-OHSC-/300628054699?pt=Guitar&hash=item45fed412ab#ht_3298wt_698)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1980-Rickenbacker-Model-4001-Bass-Jetglo-BLACK-BLACK-w-OHSC-/00/s/MTAyNFg1NzY=/$(KGrHqV,!lEE5z7L7GPMBOpfmvhWvQ~~60_12.JPG)
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'66 Tuna boat (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Rickenbacker-4005-double-pickup-double-bound-bass-guitar-/250941172247?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a6d426a17#ht_940wt_1396)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1966-Rickenbacker-4005-double-pickup-double-bound-bass-guitar-/00/s/MTAyMFg1Mjc=/$(KGrHqFHJCEE63(UPtteBO0mLwYWqg~~60_10.JPG)
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Wow, that's nice, shame they removed the original Volume knob.
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Here's something I have never seen before... 4080 in glossy Walnut (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1983-Rickenbacker-DOUBLE-NECK-model-4080-original-WALNUT-finish-/370565136090?pt=Guitar&hash=item5647673eda#ht_79531wt_1396) (serial # is WL... how appropriate).
From Olivia's, so click the link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1983-Rickenbacker-DOUBLE-NECK-model-4080-original-WALNUT-finish-/370565136090?pt=Guitar&hash=item5647673eda#ht_79531wt_1396) for tons of hi-res drool-worthy pics. $7,190 BIN price.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/84r4080walnut113011/large/IMG_49143.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/84r4080walnut113011/large/IMG_50283.JPG)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/84r4080walnut113011/large/IMG_4990.JPG)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/84r4080walnut113011/large/IMG_49943.JPG)
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Nicely aged. Price doesn't seem out of line considering the rarity.
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-1959-4000-bass-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/$(KGrHqRHJBcE63Vg0Mu7BOzW2,l+cQ~~60_12.JPG)
RIC should do a limited run 4000v59.
Why does the tailpiece have SIX string holes, rather than four?
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I don't know??? Tim Petersson has one of those.
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Why does the tailpiece have SIX string holes, rather than four?
Early Rickenbacker basses were made with "off the shelf" guitar parts in the Rick inventory, such as knobs, screws, pots, and tailpieces. The familiar tailpiece didn't enter the picture until late 1961-early 1962.
Paul D. Boyer
Author
"Rickenbacker Basses - 50+ Years As Rock's Bottom"
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Much like the Toaster pup, which underneath has 6 poles.
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That '59's a cool bass but it's so rudimentary looking!
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If I were going to have a single pickup Ric, it would have to be a toaster at the neck position. Tom Petersson has one of THOSE too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAbMeCqxRn8
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4003S/8 FG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-12-string-Bass-Model-4003S-8-Made-USA-2002-/230714808900?pt=Guitar&hash=item35b7ac9a44#ht_500wt_1180)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-12-string-Bass-Model-4003S-8-Made-USA-2002-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqR,!poE7Bcvhiq7BO4SId,OS!~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-12-string-Bass-Model-4003S-8-Made-USA-2002-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZ,!l!E65KGG46tBO4SHj745Q~~60_3.JPG)
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Those are cool...I'd probably go for that somehow if I did not have my Candy Apple Red Hamer Thunderbird 8 string come home to me this year after almost 9 years. I borrowed Tom Heslin's for about a week. NICE axe.
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I like the way the ad calls it a "Rickenbacker 12 string bass"... ???
And I'm glad this one is fireglo, one of my least favorite Ric colors so that I don't have to feel tempted!
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It does look in good shape, but if you wanted to ask about relief, action, truss rods etc. would a pawn shop seller be able to give you the answers?
He did correct the description to 8 strings in the body of the listing.
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I think that is one of the most beautiful Ric's I've seen in a while.....
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If I were going to have a single pickup Ric, it would have to be a toaster at the neck position. Tom Petersson has one of THOSE too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAbMeCqxRn8
They should have shot this version in a Tijuana whore house...would have been funnier with the lyrics :)
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Yeah...the Tijuana Whorehouse thing would be perfect!!
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never seen this before: A lawsuit 4005!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/170747680130?pt=Gitarren&hash=item27c15ad582
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It looks almost real. 12 hours to go and I'll bet it will fetch $1,200+.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJCsE7BcvicGBBO54u9)KKg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqNHJBsE60e3usicBO54vryhPQ~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJBcE63Vg0w5zBO54yt5WEw~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJHJCEE63(UQ(EEBO54zD7)V!~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJBcE63Vg0w5zBO54zZ5hKw~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rare-Lawsuit-4005-Bass-Replica-Whith-Rickenbacker-String-/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/$(KGrHqZHJBEE63St-2NCBO6MK0JOvQ~~60_12.JPG)
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^ Sold for $1,584.
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Anyone know the brand and approximate year of that copy 4005? Never saw one before.
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I'm thinking it was a one-off? The closest 4005 clones I've seen are those Shaftesbury 330-esque things...
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Never seen anything like it before and from the pics it looks accurate and well built. But I'm not going to spend $1,500+ on a bass that I couldn't resell.
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Mid-'73 JG with checkerboard and toaster (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-CIRCA-1973-W-RIC-HSC-/330661625551?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cfcf7fecf#ht_483wt_1532), looks like a very good deal at $2,000 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-CIRCA-1973-W-RIC-HSC-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!ncE63T09ylZBO67e8Cykw~~60_10.JPG)
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August 1964 RM1999 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/330665902699?pt=AU_Musical_Instruments_Instruments&hash=item4cfd39426b#ht_938wt_1396) down under...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$(KGrHqVHJBEE7)2UUkWUBP!OfhfgT!~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqZHJ!4E7)t)J3+bBP!OfUdwgg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqZHJ!wE7))0EmGDBP!Of(DsKQ~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqZHJC!E7zBE+CK(BP!Of!tkg!~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$(KGrHqZHJCoE7zHHDZ-dBP!Oe8bevg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqFHJCkE7y3YzuT!BP!OekOkOg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqRHJBoE7yLOZpbWBP!OegYFFg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqJHJDgE7zIJHRzQBP!OfM!KIg~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw$(KGrHqNHJDME7zrwQbIpBP!OfQ!su!~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$(KGrHqNHJBcE7)u7Icn4BP!Od+JH3w~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/NDY2WDYyMg==$(KGrHqZHJCQE7yy+2m3JBP!Oebj6dw~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1964-Rickenbacker-Rose-Morris-RM-1999-Bass-Guitar-original-case-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$(KGrHqZHJBQE7))9WB09BP!OfdZ6Qg~~60_12.JPG)
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A new one-off from RIC outlet: 4004Cii TV Yellow/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4004Cii-TV-Yellow-One-Off-Black-Hardware-Ebony-Fret-Board-/250967412945?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a6ed2d0d1#ht_582wt_1396) with 50 years old ebony fretboard. Starting at $3K.
Designated 4004cii but looks more like a 4004L to me as the body is maple and not a maple/walnut sandwich.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4004Cii-TV-Yellow-One-Off-Black-Hardware-Ebony-Fret-Board-/00/s/MTYwMFg5OTU=$(KGrHqRHJBIE7)0fnHpuBPBjBZHOS!~~60_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4004Cii-TV-Yellow-One-Off-Black-Hardware-Ebony-Fret-Board-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDU4$(KGrHqFHJCME7yo4B8GqBPBjBiBnTQ~~60_3.JPG)
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Now that actually does look a lot like Gibson's original TV Model finish.
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MUCH better than those 5 C64S they just did. I was trying to see if it was a hippie sandwich or not. Hard to tell since the pics are dead-on front and rear.
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Not a hippie sandwich. The listing states all-maple body. This is what John Hall posted at the RRF:
"Technically it's neither a Cii nor an L, since it has elements of both models, so it could have gone either way.
I might mention that this is one of two I had made as a Christmas gift for a well-known bassist friend; they each had different features but in the end I chose the other one for him. This one more pleased my ear's taste, while the one I gave him more pleased my eyes, though all of that is entirely subjective.
It also seems that this is my last bass-size piece of that wonderful ebony which we've had in our wood stock for more than 50 years. I have a few more guitar-sized sticks but then it's gone. This is Theodor Nagel sourced wood that Roger Rossmiesl ordered from Hamburg in the late 1950's."
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The walnut wings on the headstock ruin it for me - they look out of place, they don't match any other parts of the guitar. A shame too - with the ebony fingerboard matching the black hardware and headstock matching the body it could have looked really nice...
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2002 4003S/5 JG BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Black-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-Bass-Guitar-/110806144483?pt=Guitar&hash=item19cc8f95e3#ht_500wt_1156)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2002-Black-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqN,!k0E8KCVs,yLBPCwimupGw~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2002-Black-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqV,!i0E7GIetIUSBPCwiuuzOQ~~60_3.JPG)
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4080 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4080-Doubleneck-4-string-Bass-6-string-guitar-1980-/140680080939?pt=Guitar&hash=item20c12fae2b#ht_500wt_1156) in
solid non-burst WAL Burgundyglo:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4080-Doubleneck-4-string-Bass-6-string-guitar-1980-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/$(KGrHqZHJDgE7y-5wcdKBPDnR0l9+w~~60_3.JPG)
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I think it is just a poor picture of a Burgundy 4080. :)
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It DOES look like solid walnut, but I agree it is likely BG.
Now who's going to lend me 6K? ???
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He doesn't claim it's walnut, hard to say. Headstocks do look they have a burgundy tinge, if his camera captured the color accurately.
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The seller has added new pics, Paul was right, it's a Burg.
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S/5 in Silver (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-String-Bass-/120844837439?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c22e9e23f#ht_500wt_1156)... don't recall seeing another. Starting at $1,600.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1986-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-String-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqN,!hcE7Us5BVm2BPFHfwQiS!~~60_3.JPG)
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That one sure looks like it's going green.
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That one sure looks like it's going green.
Likely, but then the whole photo is green due to poor white balance setting on the camera. If we can assume the slat board should be white, you can get the idea. Fluorescent lights are on the greenish side of the spectrum, so correcting with white balance control on the camera can counteract that.
That said, the clear coat over Rickenbacker Silver often goes yellowish, lending a greenish cast.
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The predecessor of the Shadow? A '74 Jetglo with checkerboard binding (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Jetglo-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-One-Kind-/180810631229?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1927483d#ht_9789wt_1139), factory black pickguard and Plexi TRC, and gap-tooth bridge base plate.
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/davestags/74%20Rickenbacker%20Jetglo%204001%20Bass/IMG_6891.jpg)
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/davestags/74%20Rickenbacker%20Jetglo%204001%20Bass/IMG_6890.jpg)
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A stunning 1968 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Autumnglo-RIB0003-/330681597693?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cfe28befd#ht_500wt_922)...
Nice example of late 50's-60's Autumnglo, which in that era was very dark Fireglo. In the 70's Autumnglo was changed to matte baby poop brown.
Mono output, BTW.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1968-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Autumnglo-RIB0003-/00/s/NzQwWDEwMDA=/$(KGrHqNHJ!0E8e7WbRnkBPKuqKDVog~~60_10.JPG)
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'96 in solid Red (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Rickenbacker-4003-Bass-Rare-Solid-Red-/270914781217?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f13c78021#ht_2028wt_905)... not metallic Ruby, not BT - just fire engine red with chrome... I love it. Must be what they called "reversed trim".
(http://96.0.12.149/ebay/ebay-pics/96-ric-4003-red/large/01.jpg)(http://96.0.12.149/ebay/ebay-pics/96-ric-4003-red/large/02.jpg)
(http://96.0.12.149/ebay/ebay-pics/96-ric-4003-red/large/06.jpg)(http://96.0.12.149/ebay/ebay-pics/96-ric-4003-red/large/14.jpg)
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Wow, that should have flashing lights and a siren on top!
Is that an unusual color?
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Very unusual. Red came standard in black trim. If you wanted white/chrome you could special order "reverse trim" but apparently very few did.
(http://theredrickenbacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/038.jpg)
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Many of the early to mid 90s red w/BT sat in stores for a long time. And not just the basses. Friend of mine bought a red 360 at a ridiculous price after it had been in store stock 3 or 4 years.
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It's a beautiful bass but I can see why they sat around for a while. It's almost too much red.
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Found an old pic of my friend, this must be from about 1997. It sure did stand out in person, even more than in the photo.
(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/72/726c3f560b03470281ef0de389a8067a/l.jpg)
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Looks a million times better with the white/chrome stuff. Was that called Ferrari red? Or was it just based on Ferrari red? I thought there was some connection...
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IIRC it was just called Red.
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'82 4080 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-Neck-Guitar-Super-Rare-and-Mint-1982-Vintage-/160766423096?pt=Guitar&hash=item256e6cf038#ht_500wt_1413)... $5,500 starting bid.
Like in most 4080's I have seen, the binding and pickguard/TRC are contrasting colors.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-Neck-Guitar-Super-Rare-and-Mint-1982-Vintage-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqN,!lUE9mZtLpD9BPZ84OL3T!~~60_12.JPG)
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Don't think I've seen one with Black Binding before.
He does have the complete Black plastic too inc Ric plates.
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I'd get that black stuff right back on there! Mapleglo... :bored: ;)
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If it was mine I'd have it refin'ed in bright white.
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Even better!
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1991 4003S/8 FG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-RICKENBACKER-4003S-8-VINTAGE-8-STRING-BASS-SUPER-RARE-/180858722596?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1c051924#ht_28092wt_1396) in Japan... Starting bid $2,500. Looks almost brand new.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/spazzman7/RICK8/RIMG0005.jpg)
EDIT: just noticed the bridge pickup... 5 poles?
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/spazzman7/RICK8/RIMG0032.jpg)
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5 string pickup - that's odd! Someone swapped out the nut and reversed the octave/fundamental string arrangement (for the better) too. Looks a lot like my '93. My tailpiece does not have the "teeth" removed from the mute area, or the one big opening where the strings pass through from the back though. I guess mine is a standard, 7 hole, 4003 tailpiece.
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Hey! They spelled Rickenbacker wrong. Now everyone can find it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Ricenbacker-4001-bass-guitar-Jetglo-/360449671940?pt=Guitar&hash=item53ec798304
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These are all so clean and nice. My 4001 must be the second most beat up looking Jetglo out there...
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I love beat up Rics. There was a beat to hell 4000 FG on eBay 3 years ago that I still kick myself for not getting. It went for $1,500 IIRC.
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Lefty '71 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1971-RICKENBACKER-4001-MAPLEGLO-BASS-LEFT-HANDED-CHECKERBOARD-BOUND-OHSC-/180867195100?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1c8660dc#ht_500wt_1413)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-1971-RICKENBACKER-4001-MAPLEGLO-BASS-LEFT-HANDED-CHECKERBOARD-BOUND-OHSC-/00/s/MTYwMFg1MzU=/$(KGrHqFHJBsE7y7)3mg2BPGcIBdw1Q~~60_57.JPG)
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That is a very fine piece of wood, love the fret board too.
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Everything about that one is nice. One of only two, it sure is rare, doubt if it's $8500 rare.
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2000 4001v63 Sea Green - mint! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Mint-Rickenbacker-4001V63-Sea-Green-w-OHSC-Paperwork-/120903443771?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c2668253b#ht_28446wt_1396)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/2000%20Gibson%20Les%20Paul%201954%20RI%20Gold%20Top/2000%20Rickenbacker%204001V63%20Sea%20Green/DSC04709.jpg)
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That one may get the starting bid or more, weren't there something like only a dozen of these made?
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Probably fewer, but no way to tell exactly. I've personally seen one (Steve Wood) and know of two or three others. It is believed that Sea Green ("Color of the Year" for Rickenbacker in 2000) was the only COY to be applied to a 4001V63 (at the factory, can't count custom refins). The V63 was produced into 2002, but I've not seen any evidence that any received Desert Gold (2001 COY) or Burgundy (2002 COY). V63s were supposed to be available only in Fireglo and Mapleglo, but inevitably some were finished in Jetglo. Right at the very end of 4001V63 production in 2002, a few were finished in Turquoise (I have one of three that I know of) and Midnight Blue.
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I know Tim Sarter bought one new and had it for several years then sold it to someone at the RRF.
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I know Tim Sarter bought one new and had it for several years then sold it to someone at the RRF.
Yep, that's one of them. Don't know if Sarter's is the one Steve Wood got or not. Sure looks luscious, don't she?
Here's what a Turquoise V63 looks like:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/DSCN5977copy.jpg)
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Now imagine that Turquoise with gold guards... Like the old Cloverfield Green.
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V63s were supposed to be available only in Fireglo and Mapleglo, but inevitably some were finished in Jetglo. Right at the very end of 4001V63 production in 2002, a few were finished in Turquoise (I have one of three that I know of) and Midnight Blue.
The year 2000 is when Rickenbacker announced that the V63 would be discontinued. At that time you could order one in any of Rickenbacker's standard colors, including Turquoise and Midnight Blue. I was ready to order one in either Sea Green or Mid. Blue when I saw on a forum posts that said the V63 would be replaced by a more accurate vintage re-issue, so I waited, missed the window of opportunity, and Rickenbacker came out with that abomination with the reversed headstock and only available in Fireglo and Mapleglo.
Although the last order date for the V63 was December 31, 2000 it took until 2002 for them to be produced, but they could not be ordered in the Color of the Year for 2001 or 2002.
I ended up getting a 1986 V63 that I am very happy with.
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Yep, that's one of them. Don't know if Sarter's is the one Steve Wood got or not. Sure looks luscious, don't she?
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Now that you mention it, I think he was the guy who bought it.
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Now imagine that Turquoise with gold guards... Like the old Cloverfield Green.
Or either with a Squire Wing Job...
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How about a Tuxedo (the real Tuxedo):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-RICKENBACKER-4003-SPC-TUXEDO-WHITESTAR-BASS-w-HSC-/280871942787?pt=Guitar&hash=item416545ba83#ht_500wt_1249
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1987-RICKENBACKER-4003-SPC-TUXEDO-WHITESTAR-BASS-w-HSC-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqF,!o8E9c6V!oPhBPnDRkW6WQ~~60_57.JPG)
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I think the "Naked Tux" looks better. This one was a genuine Tuxedo (4003SPC Tuxedo) but the white had yellowed badly and unevenly. I had it stripped and refinished with a nice satin finish by Larry Davis:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/Nakedtuxweb.jpg)
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A white Shadow! '73 4001 refinished in white (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Checkered-Binding-/270966908005?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f16e2e465#ht_4537wt_1396):
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/bobhydephd/IMG_0408.jpg)
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/bobhydephd/IMG_0409.jpg)
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/bobhydephd/IMG_0406.jpg)
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^^^ Beautiful. Nowhere near original so the price may stay reasonable.
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As a rule I don't care for white basses but that one is beautiful. With keyworks like Lull, PLEK, checkerboard, and horseshoe, I'm guessing the reserve is out of my reach.
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A Jetglo '72:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-w-orig-case-checker-binding-/330727925818?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d00eba83a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-w-orig-case-checker-binding-/330727925818?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d00eba83a)
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY2/$(KGrHqN,!jkE9WFzI)v3BPpZ4byGcg~~60_57.JPG)
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Nice front view! The back looks awfully rough.
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4004LK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-RIC-Lemmy-4004LK-Rickenbacker-Custom-Bass-Guitar-SUPER-Limited-Edition-/230790211682?pt=Guitar&hash=item35bc2b2862#ht_772wt_1139)... Haven't seen one for sale in a long time. Insane $17,550 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqRHJEcE-kMEUcD7BPrs,wbd)!~~60_57.JPG)
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He does have a Make Offer button. I suspect he'll get some serious ones. "Beyond stupid rare" is about right. It will probably be many years before most of the 60 will be up for sale. Maybe after the original owners have passed and their heirs offer them.
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Dave, Mike Parks has #12 for sale, NOS, with the earlier pickup layout.
(http://www.the-music-connection.com/r661.JPG)
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Has anyone asked him about the price?
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1975 white double neck 4080 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4080-DOUBLENECK-1980-WHITE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-OHSC-RARE-/140762089213?pt=Guitar&hash=item20c61306fd#ht_12154wt_1187). Pics show mile-high action. $14,500 starting bid... ???
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/1/0/5/5/4/webimg/576939071_o.jpg)
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Another bass with action so high you could slide Calista Flockhart under there.
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Looks like an early model, when the neck pocket was really small (4080's are bolt-on). The neck meets the body at the 17th fret. Later RIC changed the body shape to make a longer neck pocket.
Here you can compare the first design (left) and the improved (but less elegant) later design:
(http://basschat.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-2229-0-03932500-1335007995.jpg)
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Beat but original one-owner '72 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/110893801057?pt=Guitar&hash=item19d1c91e61#ht_500wt_1413) in very dark FG. Could be ATG, old FG's tend to be more orangey and less dark than this one.
I love the worn look when it's genuine.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqR,!pQE-vz4k!ITBPy-32kDIw~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqZ,!nwE-w2(Vc9wBPy-32teZ!~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqN,!lcE-kGHsKlYBPy-3zntEQ~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqNHJB8E-8!T!qWWBPy-3zljYg~~60_3.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqV,!pUE7BcvinrzBPy-32,)qg~~60_3.JPG)
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'71 Glueburst (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4001-VINTAGE-1971-BASS-MAPLEGLOW-DELUXE-WITH-CHECKERED-BINDING-/251089381319?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a7617e7c7#ht_22657wt_1396)... Starting at $0.99
(http://www.listingfactoryhost.com/users/danalex/eBayAuctions/ric4001/images/047_1638_thumb.jpeg)
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Looks pretty much all there, but for the 4003 treble pickup. Crazy bit of maple that.
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Basses like that usually don't start at $0.99 no reserve. Wanna venture a guess?
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Basses like that usually don't start at $0.99 no reserve. Wanna venture a guess?
It will be very interesting to see, I would say it'll get proper money, if it actually gets real bids and no shill, unfortunately most pieces don't last the duration without intervention.
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That would look great in Autumnglo.
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Tuna boat alert: '74 4005WB MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-Maple-glow-in-great-original-condition-a-hard-to-find-/130720205284?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e6f8809e4#ht_500wt_1413) on eBay, current bid $1,890 - no reserve and no crazy starting bid / BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-Maple-glow-great-original-condition-a-hard-find-/00/s/NTQ2WDE2MDA=/$(KGrHqN,!lME+HZbdy!nBP6RC7bmYQ~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-Maple-glow-great-original-condition-a-hard-find-/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/$(KGrHqF,!o8E-)D408z1BP6RDUuHzw~~60_57.JPG)
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unfortunately most pieces don't last the duration without intervention.
You were right. "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."
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You were right. "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."
Looks like it's back up again. I suppose the first listing should have read, "The listing was ended because the seller won the auction".
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Tuna boat alert: '74 4005WB MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-Maple-glow-in-great-original-condition-a-hard-to-find-/130720205284?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e6f8809e4#ht_500wt_1413) on eBay, current bid $1,890 - no reserve and no crazy starting bid / BIN.
That ought to reach 4K with no problem.
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That ought to reach 4K with no problem.
Some issues with the binding I think. Not sure why the wings were omitted on these later ones :-[
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'76 4000 (!) ATG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-1976-RARE-/221071032388?pt=Guitar&hash=item3378dc4044#ht_1175wt_1163) - first time I see one like that:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-1976-RARE-/00/s/NTQ5WDYwMA==/$T2eC16RHJGYE9nooh8!TBQ!F(PhlRw~~60_10.JPG)
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Oh lordy! That's beautiful!
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i had one { single pick up}a few years older in fire glo. i'm such a dumbass.... :sad:
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This one was on eBay some time ago but it's a refin.
(http://rickenbackerbass.net/files/2011/01/-52161705891909460.jpg)
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Refin or original, the Autumnglo looks great.
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Stunning 1968 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-VINTAGE-4000-4003-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-MAPLE-GLO-1960s-/150859512645?pt=Guitar&hash=item231fed7b45#ht_40325wt_1198).
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k567/vintagefx2012/eBay2012/JUNE/1969Rickenbacker4001/1969_Rickenbacker_4001_IH506_002.jpg)
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k567/vintagefx2012/eBay2012/JUNE/1969Rickenbacker4001/1969_Rickenbacker_4001_IH506_005.jpg)
Tons of more pics on eBay.
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Stunning 1968 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-VINTAGE-4000-4003-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-MAPLE-GLO-1960s-/150859512645?pt=Guitar&hash=item231fed7b45#ht_40325wt_1198).
Dang. Seems like a pretty fair BIN. Very nice!
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Mid-73 (checkerboard, toaster, narrow inlays) Azureglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-Checkerboard-Binding-AzureGlo-Blue-/150866105415?pt=Guitar&hash=item2320521447#ht_59562wt_1187)... my favorite Ric color.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-Checkerboard-Binding-AzureGlo-Blue-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$T2eC16F,!zQE9s3sqJqLBQEYE(lJH!~~60_57.JPG)
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My favorite Rick color too. This one's lovely and not unreasonably priced.
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Beautiful...
... any other comment would be superfluous...
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'74 BG 4005WB(OS) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Rickenbacker-4005-Burgundy-Glo-Vintage-Bass-/251123157853?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a781b4b5d#ht_12569wt_1397)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/waitebt/rickenbacker40051974bg/websize/L1340022.JPG)
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Another 1968 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MAY-1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-w-ORIG-HORSESHOE-PICKUP-SWEET-/160863485249?pt=Guitar&hash=item257435fd41#ht_1153wt_1397), this time with a horseshoe and wider pickguard
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-MAY-1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-w-ORIG-HORSESHOE-PICKUP-SWEET-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$T2eC16d,!zoE9s5ngHcdBQJ91JVuVQ~~60_58.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-MAY-1968-RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-w-ORIG-HORSESHOE-PICKUP-SWEET-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw$(KGrHqJ,!jIE+d3GrzG(BQJ91vT-C!~~60_58.JPG)
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1968 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-RIB0003-/330781735521?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d0420ba61#ht_545wt_1163) in a nice example of old Autumnglo - back when it was just a heavily applied Fireglo.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1968-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-RIB0003-/00/s/MTM0MFgxMDAw/$(KGrHqN,!isE+2G8c0epBQM92FcKT!~~60_57.JPG)
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Gary's asking prices have always been on the high side but $14.9 K for that? Not even if I won a lottery jackpot.
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Nice '81 FG tuna boat (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-RICKENBACKER-4005-FIRE-GLOW-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-INC-ORIGINAL-CASE-/180990005844?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a23d85254). Period-correct button-tops, narrow inlays, black tuner bushings, plain binding, and raised letter TRC.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1981-RICKENBACKER-4005-FIRE-GLOW-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-INC-ORIGINAL-CASE-/00/s/OTg2WDE2MDA=/$(KGrHqR,!lgFBl-ZuLVSBQb9r26Ls!~~60_12.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1981-RICKENBACKER-4005-FIRE-GLOW-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-INC-ORIGINAL-CASE-/00/s/OTg2WDE2MDA=/$(KGrHqR,!qQFBGvGM67dBQb9ryEVKQ~~60_12.JPG)
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S/5 that someone had turned into sort of a v63/5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Rickenbacker-5-string-bass-/271082591146?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2805378492238451305%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D271082591146%26). Very tasteful mod IMHO.
Stained headstock wings, C64 pickguard, tug bar, plexi TRC, vintage knobs, toaster at 1/2", modified string spacing... I love it.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1990-Rickenbacker-5-string-bass-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$T2eC16hHJG!E9nm3sBd4BQfhF7k6Pw~~60_57.JPG)
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Price is a bit unrealistic considering the mods. OTOH with better string spacing it's much more playable than a standard Rick 5.
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Insane $30K BIN but the 4002 porn is free (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-ULTRA-RARE-EXCELLENT-RICKENBACKER-4002-w-OHSC-/121003018428?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c2c5788bc). Tons more hi-res pics on the eBay page.
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/1982%20Rickenbacker%204002%20Ultra%20Rare/DSC08257.jpg)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/1982%20Rickenbacker%204002%20Ultra%20Rare/DSC08253.jpg)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/1982%20Rickenbacker%204002%20Ultra%20Rare/DSC08238.jpg)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/1982%20Rickenbacker%204002%20Ultra%20Rare/DSC08233.jpg)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/1982%20Rickenbacker%204002%20Ultra%20Rare/DSC08207.jpg)
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Oh man, my favorite color for these. OK, I know they only came in two... :)
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Pretty 1982 4001S LH in Mapleglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-handed-Rickenbacker-Bass-4001s-1982-/321015445476?pt=Guitar&hash=item4abe02f7e4). Set neck clearly visible.
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That's the elusive B Series.
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Blueboy fretless (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-MINT-RARE-RICKENBACKER-4003-FL-BLUE-BOY-W-OHSC-FRETLESS-BASS-/121020420316?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c2d6110dc)
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab288/EmbedTheWidget1/EXPERIMENT/Experiments/2006%20Rickenbacker%204003%20FL%20Blue%20Boy/Oshte2059.jpg)
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If they would only stay blue!
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'63 4000. Stripped and modded for a BadAss (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Guitar-with-Horseshoe-Pickup-/110981721878?pt=Guitar&hash=item19d706af16) (seller uncludes the original gap-tooth bridge). Cool as hell. Starting bid: $3,300.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1963-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Guitar-with-Horseshoe-Pickup-/00/s/NTc2WDM4NA==/$(KGrHqZ,!oQFCsFzpUeUBQsohyi21!~~60_3.JPG)
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It's rare all right. I wouldn't pay that, though I wish him good luck.
There was a basse at the Pit for awhile, he had an early doublecut Junior-style EB-0. Wonder if it's the same guy.
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Ha! Didn't notice that.
Actually seeing this bass reminds me of a similar early 60's 4000 (w/orig. horseshoe) that I could have bought locally for dirt cheap, but passed because I was an idiot. It had a bad LPB refin (no wood removed though) and was made fretless. It was heavy, and sounded awesome.
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If they would only stay blue!
Presume they are prone to fade...?
(and fretless too... 8))
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Presume they are prone to fade...?
(and fretless too... 8))
Yes, it's only six years old and already green. The original color is a powder blue. It was first a custom color made for Jim Reeves and his Blue Boys. An image search will show you how green some of them have become.
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My mums favourite singer, bar none...
I knew most of his material before I had picked up any instrument... ;)
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S/8 in Red (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-8-STRING-BASS-GUITAR-MODEL-4003S-8-REF-266026-1-/170950415047?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3888028308025345088%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D170950415047%26) (reverse trim - chrome/white guard).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-8-STRING-BASS-GUITAR-MODEL-4003S-8-REF-266026-1-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJEYFCblBg389BQtjh8sw!Q~~60_57.JPG)
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S/8 in Red (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-8-STRING-BASS-GUITAR-MODEL-4003S-8-REF-266026-1-/170950415047?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3888028308025345088%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D170950415047%26) (reverse trim - chrome/white guard).
Just a friendly heads-up to anyone on the Internets looking at that red 4003s/8 serial C68789... that bass had a massive bow in the neck that the current seller didn't disclose. Someone on Ebay bought it for $2770 on 10/25 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170925538270?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649), and apparently has returned it (didn't look like a shill, and the seller left the buyer feedback). Now the same seller states the neck is "warp free".
Fretting at the 20th left roughly 5/8" between the strings and fingerboard when I played it in October. Even if they did manage to work the bow out, I'd be concerned about it recurring. Prior to my experience with it, the bass had been thru Elderly (http://www.elderly.com/items/55U-2570.htm), possibly Mike Parks (according to a post at RR), and now this place Gold Pawn (who I confirmed has a tech come in for setups). If it is in fact problem-free, well then I'd expect it to hold a setup much better that that!
I could only speculate that this might be one of the specimens that requires truss rod swaps (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2845.0), or has a "soft timber" (http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=405642) issue... In either case, its probably fixable with some work - but buyer beware!
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Thanks for clarifying that.
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Horseshoe's mounting plate looks backwards.
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Horseshoe's mounting plate looks backwards.
It is. If you flip a horseshoe trim ring around, the holes from the stock one match up, so you don't have to drill. Personally, I don't like the way it looks. I had put a horseshoe on my S/8 and the change in tone was so minor I decided it wasn't worth the extra weight, and having the shoes hanging over the strings. Back to stock (minus the cover).
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A very nice 1972 S (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-4001S-Bass-Mapleglo-Natural-Dot-Neck-/230904328418?pt=Guitar&hash=item35c2f870e2):
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1972-Rickenbacker-4001S-Bass-Mapleglo-Natural-Dot-Neck-/00/s/MTI4MFg4NTM=/$T2eC16NHJIIE9qTYI1O(BQ3h8w2IIg~~60_57.JPG)
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v63 in White (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Rickenbacker-4001V63-Bass-Guitar-Super-Rare-White-Export-Model-4003-4003-/160949131649?pt=Guitar&hash=item257950d981)! Like the very limited edition C64, but - thank God - without the upside-down headstock.
And the coolest serial number!
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Jan%202/292.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Jan%202/308.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Jan%202/050.jpg)
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Beauty! And no doubt when it was made. :)
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That's sharp! I don't care much for the reverse headstock on them either - always liked the v63.
Speaking of.... can anyone here recommend a place that can build a v63 pickguard that is fairly true to original (material-wise)? Just curious if anyone has personal experience with the products from places like Pickguardian, and how they compare to original.
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Tony's material is identical to RIC's Plexiglas (unlike Fender and pretty much the rest of the guitar world, that use vinyl).
His repro Ric guards are indistinguishable from Ric factory guards (which aren't always consistent, the white can be opaque or slightly see-thru, in which case you can spray the back side white if you want), except that he doesn't stick a strip of masking tape under the knob holes like RIC does.
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Thing I could never understand was the guard was nowhere near right on these and the CS, it goes too near the edge of the body in the area of the Bridge Volume control.
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Tony's material is identical to RIC's Plexiglas (unlike Fender and pretty much the rest of the guitar world, that use vinyl).
His repro Ric guards are indistinguishable from Ric factory guards (which aren't always consistent, the white can be opaque or slightly see-thru, in which case you can spray the back side white if you want), except that he doesn't stick a strip of masking tape under the knob holes like RIC does.
I ended up with a (actually, very nice) 4003s8 project on the cheap, and may or may not want to fit a replacement pg. Doubt I can (should) leverage the 1/2" neck pickup spacing while attempting to reinforce it, and so a v63 makeover probably isn't realistic... (did get a horsey for it, though). I should probably be thinking more along the lines of a 4000s8 ;)
At any rate, thanks!
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Blackstar (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Ric-Model-4003-BLACKSTAR-Bass-/230914576124?pt=Guitar&hash=item35c394cefc)! It's been a while since I've seen one on eBay.
Starting at $2K.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-Ric-Model-4003-BLACKSTAR-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFg2MjI=/$T2eC16V,!zcE9s4g3MFHBQ-Wf41rt!~~60_57.JPG)
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Hard to photograph black well unless you really know what you're doing. This one seems to be in nicer than average shape.
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Ohh... now that is beautiful...
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I looked at a couple past pages and didn't see this one listed. Apologies if it was, but being so rare I thought you guys might like it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-ULTRA-RARE-EXCELLENT-RICKENBACKER-4002-w-OHSC-/121055812941?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c2f7d1d4d
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1982-ULTRA-RARE-EXCELLENT-RICKENBACKER-4002-w-OHSC-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDcx/$(KGrHqV,!okFBLwSdozfBQgzKCn4JQ~~60_57.JPG)
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http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2139.msg118221;topicseen#msg118221
But yes, she's a real beauty.
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If only I'd kept scrolling back! I should have figured it had been up a while at that price. :o
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Nice looking '68 4001.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-CIRCA-1968-FIREGLO-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$T2eC16NHJHEE9ny2qToRBR!bSr!Buw~~60_12.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330863364554?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Love that dark, smooth burst typical of '68 FG's.
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Love that dark, smooth burst typical of '68 FG's.
Much better than today's FG.
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Saw this one in person at one of my local GCs (Concord CA) - pretty nice Burgundyglo (I think?) 4001:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1795/burgundy4001body.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img90/1590/burgundy4001headstock.jpg)
Plugged it in - definitely needs new strings but the neck seemed fairly well-adjusted. Strange thing was, the body where the controls are seemed to be warping up! Sorry I didn't get a picture of that. In hindsight, I did a terrible job - didn't even get a shot of the serial - for some reason I thought the tag read 1974 but now I see it doesn't - I think all the 4's got me confused. Can't find it online yet - maybe too new? I can go check it out if anyone's interested but I think it's overpriced, and the bent body is weird.
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Okay, this one is freakin' AWESOME. 4001v63 in BlueBoy with gold pickguard and Plexi TRC (http://www.gbase.com/gear/rickenbacker-4001v63-bass-1998-blue-boy). Not on eBay but on GBase.
This was at one time my dream bass. When RIC had BlueBoy as Color of the Year, I wanted to order a C64 in that finish. Of course I wanted a non-flipped headstock, but the v63 was discontinued by that time so I was ready to order a C64 as long as it was in BlueBoy. But Chris Clayton told me it was impossible, they do C64's only in MG, FG, and the occasional JG.
And now this... How freakin' cool is that?
(http://cdn1.gbase.com/usercontent/gear/3156494/p1_utuurcrwv_ss.jpg)(http://cdn1.gbase.com/usercontent/gear/3156494/p2_u514ioxmk_ss.jpg)
(http://cdn1.gbase.com/usercontent/gear/3156494/p6_ue0dasstr_ss.jpg)(http://cdn1.gbase.com/usercontent/gear/3156494/p3_usb1jysgi_ss.jpg)
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That's pretty darn nifty!
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It's nifty, all right, but are you sure that's a Blue Boy?
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On my monitor it's too mint-greenish to be aged white. And I have seen pics of BlueBoys that look white on camera. Especially when they don't have the white pickguard for contrast.
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I'm pretty sure that it is a refinish job in the same color as Blueboy and the addition of the gold back-painted pick guard and TRC. Blueboy does look a little greenish if it is faded or photographed in certain light conditions. It could also have been a special order for a special customer and made in the factory, but my money is on a refin.
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On one hand, the seller says he was told by the original owner that it was a custom order. On the other hand, this bass was made 6 years before BB was officially offered, as CotY.
So it could be a refin, or a custom order as a tribute to the original Blue Boys gunpowder-blue Rics with their gold-backed guards. Or maybe, who knows, a factory one-off, a test that has led to BB as 2004 CotY.
Either way, awesome IMHO.
The horseshoes are bent upwards, like 60's horseshoes and like recent production RIHS's. In '98 they were flat.
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Paul, that makes the most sense to me.
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Interesting, as all the V63's and the CS's have a scratchplate that extends very close to outer edge of the body around the jack area and above, this one hasn't and is more like they should be. Never could work out why they did this as it didn't fit any part of the history of the bass.
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Pinstripe (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-RARE-original-BLACK-on-BLACK-Jetglo-BT-/130874310905?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e78b780f9)... I love them. This one is from 1978. It precedes the Shadow by eight years.
On the registration card it says 4001BT. So before the 80's black hardware option, they referred to black guard/TRC basses as Black Trim although this one has chrome hardware and white neck binding.
Tons of pics like every item by Olivia's.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/78r4001btjg31513/large/IMG_98953.JPG)
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Good looking bass, and not a bad price for Olivia's.
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Good looking bass, and not a bad price for Olivia's.
Yes it is. Olivia's is often higher than individual sellers but they really aren't bad at all for a retailer.
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The familiar neck crack must have an effect on value. But I love the look and the relative rarity.
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Not a big fan of the non-4000 basses, but this '92 FG 2050 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-2050-Rickenbacker-Bass-/190816342705?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c6d8a52b1) is very pretty
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1992-2050-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/MG4AAOxy9eVRRkjS/$T2eC16F,!)EE9s2ufEw0BRRkjSOTYw~~60_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1992-2050-Rickenbacker-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/M2cAAOxy9eVRRkkm/$T2eC16h,!ygE9s7HLcEkBRRkkluobQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Never could get excited about the looks and didn't like the wide necks. Above all, though, they really didn't have a Rick sound.
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4003SPC Blackstar (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4-String-Bass-Guitar-In-hard-Case-/251260012459?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a804387ab) - listed as "Rickenbacker 4 String Bass" - seller is a pawnshop, probably has no clue.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4-String-Bass-Guitar-In-hard-Case-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/08oAAMXQw8hRabFF/$T2eC16NHJHQFFh)O22ddBR,bFFVTvg~~60_57.JPG)
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Seller has a reserve...?
What do you reckon she's worth, Ilan...?
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after ebay had been around a few years american pawn shops all became 'experts' concerning guitars. the sweet deal became almost impossible to find. your results may vary.
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Enough people will recognize it for what it is. Ought to bring 2K, maybe a little more.
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I'm thinking $3K+ but I could be wrong. They used to sell for $4-5K but these days are gone and this Blackstar is pretty beat up.
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I don't know. The back looks pretty good from here....... ;)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/21jpv1g.jpg)
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Nothing there that a little buffing wouldn't fix.
I'm glad it's not a Redneck, I'd be GASsing.
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I'm the high bidder. 8)
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Hope you win it, Tom.
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+1 on the gas... ;)
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Ended at $2,063... Dave was right.
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Tom, did you win it?
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No, I dropped out after it passed $1500. I've already got a black, 1989 S model that I absolutely love, so I didn't really have a need for it. I was just hoping (wishful thinking) that nobody would notice a Blackstar in that price range!
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1972 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Mapleglo-OHSC-/370812375016?pt=Guitar&hash=item565623cfe8)... one of the last neck-thru's before they switched to set necks (and off-axis bodies) 4000's.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1972-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Mapleglo-OHSC-/00/s/MTI4MFg4NTM=/z/7JkAAMXQcBFRi97f/$T2eC16J,!ysE9sy0h(HIBRi97er1fg~~60_57.JPG)
No forstner bit channel route!
(http://96.0.12.149/ebay/ebay-pics/72-ric-4000-mapleglo/large/11.jpg)
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Nice one!
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Pretty! I have to get me one of those clear thum rests for my 4001.
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Pretty! I have to get me one of those clear thum rests for my 4001.
Pickguardian sells them.
http://pickguardian.com/pickguardian/RICRest.html
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One mod away from being a Redneck: 1993 Red 4003S/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-RICKENBACKER-4003S-BT-Bass-Milanglo-OHSC-/111065653952?pt=Bassi&hash=item19dc0762c0)
(http://s24.postimg.org/c1jmgs4s5/P3290042.jpg)
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€1500? Wow. In the early 90s quite a few of the red with black trim Ricks sat in the stores for a long time, that may be the main reason the combination was discontinued. A friend of mine bought his r/bt 360 for $500 (list about $1200) in 1995 because it had been in stock for three years. Now they're valuable b/c they're very rare? Go figure.
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It's just the asking price... let's see if it sells for that.
There were many Red/BT's but they were bound, this one is an S, so it's almost a 4003SPC Redneck, only without the enameled maple fretboard.
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Pickguardian sells them.
http://pickguardian.com/pickguardian/RICRest.html
Be aware that there are 2 different sizes of these. I bought one years ago for my '71 21 fretter and it did not fit. It did fit my old '72 BG though.
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4003S/5 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-string-Rickenbacker-candy-apple-red-must-see-/171040447992?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Too bad about the pickups, but that's an easy fix. And the pickguard. And the knobs... ;D
Edit - maybe NOT so easy to find a 5 pole high gain for the treble position. Dual toasters would be good though.
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Too bad about the Yngwie connection. ;D
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this is the only bass this person has ever had up for sale. everything else has been clothing. i'm just sayin'...
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And is it Ruby or refin? Listed as Candy Apple Red, not a Ric color, and I'm not sure but I think Ruby was replaced with Red before the S5 was introduced.
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Too bad about the Yngwie connection. ;D
Ha ha! I actually did do a quick search on YouTube, and the clip I found had the guy playing a Peavey or something.
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I recall an article in BP or some other magazine about Barry Sparks. Whatever the story on this bass might be, he's for real. And look at what he's playing now (http://www.barrysparks.com/).
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:mrgreen:
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RED '98 4003 in "reverse trim" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-RICKENBACKER-4003-BASS-RED-NICE-/181150455899?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a2d68985b) (chrome/white instead of the standard RED/BT) in Japan.
Seems like there's some color bleed into the binding. Like Midnight Blue did until RIC changed the formula. Wait... could that be the reason RIC opted for BT as standard on Red and Midnight Blue in those years?
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/spazzman7/98RICK4003bass/RIMG0027.jpg)
Link to the full photo album:
http://s868.photobucket.com/user/spazzman7/library/98RICK4003bass?sort=3&page=1
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/spazzman7/98RICK4003bass/RIMG0009.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/spazzman7/media/98RICK4003bass/RIMG0009.jpg.html)
Actually it's nicer than bright white binding, the red color bleed gives it an aged look.
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One of my least favorite colors, along with MapleGlo. But the white/chrome is way better than black with that "fire engine" look. OTOH, I do like black against MapleGlo...
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Ilan, you could be right about the color bleed and the choice of BT for those colors. Makes sense.
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An '87 4003SPC Tuxedo (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251291079086&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en), refin'ed except for the fretboard. Not listed as a Tux. Looks like a nice restoration project and could go for a low price, especially since the seller doesn't know what he has there. Currently at $510 with no reserve.
EDIT: sold for $1,029.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1987-RICKENBACKER-Bass-guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/yCAAAOxyqOxRvgOa/$T2eC16J,!yUE9s6NEGZoBRvgOZuFK!~~60_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1987-RICKENBACKER-Bass-guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/~8oAAOxyGStRvgPl/$T2eC16R,!)!E9s2fCHI4BRvgPlNzeQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Good candidate for going naked, too. I think the Tuxedo looks better without paint:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/Nakedtuxweb.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/Small%20basses/Nakedtuxweb.jpg.html)
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I like the beat-to-hell look and, of course, the bright non-yellowed white.
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Gorgeous '71 here - http://www.ebay.com/itm/290933070808?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Rare-Vintage-Sparkle-Inlays-Walnut-Wings-70s-MINT-/00/s/MTE5NVgxNjAw/z/HxkAAOxyGStRvzIl/$T2eC16RHJGEFFm44EMeJBRvzIksYLg~~60_57.JPG)
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Amazing cosmetic condition. What a beauty.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Rare-Vintage-Sparkle-Inlays-Walnut-Wings-70s-MINT-/00/s/MTExN1gxNjAw/z/gI0AAOxyu4dRvzIk/$T2eC16JHJHEFFlurN9pUBRvzIkDSkg~~60_57.JPG)
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Much nicer than the modern fireglo.
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Beautiful... simply beautiful...
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'69 21-fretter in Glueburst (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-1969-RARE-21-fret-model-Chris-Squire-/370851129553?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item56587328d1)... all the goodies minus the horseshoe.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4001-1969-RARE-21-fret-model-Chris-Squire-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTUx/z/IC8AAMXQQtNR3Cw3/$(KGrHqZHJEkFHU165PC4BR3Cw3!1Cg~~60_57.JPG)
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Just how rare and realistically priced is this beastie...?
All I need it is the lottery and I can collect in my wife's mpv... ;D
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Wow, that's a rare beast with the '69 s/n. I've only ever seen '71s with 21 frets.
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From the book:
"Nowhere in Rickenbacker catalogs or price lists is there a mention of 4001 basses made with 21-fret fingerboards. Yest from 1969 to '71, an unknown number of them were made this way."
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Is that an extra-long tug bar or am I imagining things?
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Is that an extra-long tug bar or am I imagining things?
Yeah, definitely looks weird to me.
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I had one like that fireglow...only it looked as if it had been drug behind the truck...even beat up, it was a thing of beauty.
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A nice JG 4080 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290943187589&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en), no BIN and no reserve, started at $1.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-Neck-6-String-Guitar-and-4-String-Bass-Jetglo-1980-/00/s/ODY1WDEyMjM=/z/u1EAAOxyg6BR2voa/$T2eC16FHJIgFHR,VOjYJBR2voZV-)Q~~60_57.JPG)
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Once...
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A beautiful '72 Jetglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Jetglo-Black-Checkered-Binding-/271248588215?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f27acfdb7). Sellers say functioning truss rods and no neck crack, but was refretted.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Jetglo-Black-Checkered-Binding-/00/s/ODk4WDE2MDA=/z/1cYAAMXQDrJR3ixq/$T2eC16F,!yUE9s6NEHv4BR3i)qpe(!~~60_57.JPG)
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Nice one. Even with the refret, I'm not surprised it's already up to $2500.
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I love Jetglo with yellowed binding and inlays. They should have done Amber JG.
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Another black doubleneck...? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-Neck-6-String-Guitar-and-4-String-Bass-Jetglo-1980/190874855873?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16724%26meid%3D223218596124010761%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D7905%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D290943187589%26)
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Yep. That one is very nice too. Those doublenecks look so cool I almost wish I needed one. But I can't justify it.
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Since when has that ever made a sackful of Shekel's difference round here... ;D
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Back in the late 1990's when I had my Mapleglo '71 4001 21 fretter I used it for the Motorola corporate band I was in at the time. I remember paying $500 for it at a pawn shop and asking a LOT of questions about it but nobody knew anything about them (back then) I remember CS using one on The Yes Album but and had seen photos of him with one. I do remember it was one of the best sounding Ric's I've ever played. Something about positioning of the pickups due to the bridge being 1/2 inch more forward than the stock bass. We played an outdoor gig at the Travis County Rodeo in 1998 and we had a great female vocalist. Trace Adkins was setting up in the main building and a few of his people came to check out the band. That Ric just sounded beautiful in the context of a country cover band.
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Actually, the bass (Toaster) pickup would be roughly 1/2" closer to the bridge. To keep the scale the same, they mounted the tailpiece/bridge "up" the body a bit on the 21-fretters. Unlike the 4002 (also a 21-fretter), they just made the central neck-through assembly a 1/2" longer. Weird.
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Actually, the bass (Toaster) pickup would be roughly 1/2" closer to the bridge. To keep the scale the same, they mounted the tailpiece/bridge "up" the body a bit on the 21-fretters. Unlike the 4002 (also a 21-fretter), they just made the central neck-through assembly a 1/2" longer. Weird.
Or the bridge is 1/2'' closer to the pickup. ;D Weird indeed! And sure enough, just a few years later, they moved the neck pickup 1/2'' closer to the bridge on all 4001 basses. Centered exactly where the 24th fret would be.
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Actually, the bass (Toaster) pickup would be roughly 1/2" closer to the bridge. To keep the scale the same, they mounted the tailpiece/bridge "up" the body a bit on the 21-fretters. Unlike the 4002 (also a 21-fretter), they just made the central neck-through assembly a 1/2" longer. Weird.
So the 21 fretters overall length is 1/2" longer than the rest? That is weird.
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So the 21 fretters overall length is 1/2" longer than the rest? That is weird.
Yep and yep.
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Not a very good pic of it but it was a player! Lots of wear and tear but sounded so good. I think the bridge pickup and tuners were not stock. It was KA 015.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2hmothu.jpg)
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They are rare but I don't need that extra fret very often, and don't like the bridge that far from the body end revealing the unbound part, so other than rarity I don't get the attraction.
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Back in the early 90s, I used to jam along to this Voivod song called The Unknown Knows, and there's a line near the fadeout requiring a 21st fret. Other than that, I've been doing fine with 20. ;D ;D ;D
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They are rare but I don't need that extra fret very often, and don't like the bridge that far from the body end revealing the unbound part, so other than rarity I don't get the attraction.
They sound slightly different than the standard 4001 basses. The bridge pickup is 1/2 inch closer to the bridge too. It nailed the intro tone to "Yours Is No Disgrace".
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I have a double octave fretted and fretless... the latter is hung in the shed at present... :rolleyes:
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My Kubicki Ex-Factor has 23 frets! 8)
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... and probably explored as rarely as mine... ;)
Why did the 4001 move on...? Sounds like you really liked the beastie...?
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I have one bass with 26 frets. Do I ever go there? Of course not:)
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A '92 FG fiver - not modded - a real S/5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-RICKENBACKER-4000-5-String-BASS-FIRE-GLOW-ORIGINAL-LG3327-Electric-Guitar-/200953669377?pt=Guitar&hash=item2ec9c5a701). These are becoming very hard to find.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1992-RICKENBACKER-4000-5-String-BASS-FIRE-GLOW-ORIGINAL-LG3327-Electric-Guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/KsEAAOxy2E1SDsgC/$T2eC16J,!)QE9s3HEESWBSDsgBZvYQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Lefty Turquoise (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-RICKENBACKER-4003-ELECTRIC-BASS-RARE-TURQUOISE-COLOR-LEFTY-NEAR-MINT-/281154876318?pt=Guitar&hash=item417622f39e)!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2004-RICKENBACKER-4003-ELECTRIC-BASS-RARE-TURQUOISE-COLOR-LEFTY-NEAR-MINT-/00/s/MTYwMFg5NjM=/z/C1cAAMXQxKxSFPC7/$T2eC16h,!)8E9s4l90(,BSFPC7SthQ~~60_57.JPG)
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They ought to bring back turquoise.
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"Missing link" near mint Apr. 1962 transitional 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-RICKENBACKER-4000-VINTAGE-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-RIC-4001-1999-ROSE-MORRIS-/281154525617?pt=Guitar&hash=item41761d99b1).
1st generation features but with the revised body contours. Unusual shape pickguard. Unbelievable.
Tons of pics.
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_004_zps35b33276.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_010_zps46338f58.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_014_zpsb5f6af8b.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_016_zpsdba2fcfb.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_018_zps2100e4af.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_021_zps5efca358.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_023_zps98c7fb97.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_025_zps78d6e767.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_042_zps0ba973a4.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_064_zps10e5c7a1.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_070_zpse2a3619b.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_078_zps7cec5157.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_083_zps11a21502.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_095_zps1b307995.jpg)
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/dtlaguitars/EBAY%202013/08%20AUGUST%202013/1962%20Rickenbacker%204000/1962_Rickenbacker_4000_001_zpsfbb002c8.jpg)
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I hate to think how high that will go. Looks to be in fine shape, wonder if it plays as well as it looks.
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Vincent Gallo says he played it when it was on Craigslist, and didn't like it, neck too thin and high action. Maybe it had a good setup since then, before the recent photo session. Looks like it sold for $12,000 through craigslist and now being flipped.
The pics are incredible. I saved all 114 of them.
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That doesn't surprise me. IIRC most of the early ones I've heard about had neck and action problems.
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... I saved all 114 of them.
No OCD here, I see... ;)
(fully understood - the likelihood of getting close to one of these is probably quite slim, I guess)
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A new Paul Wilczynski-built 4005/8WB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/370888019009?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item565aa60c41) complete with potato headstock.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FJwAAOxyVh5SIK~0/$T2eC16FHJHgFFmGC3oPbBSIK+zZ)q!~~60_57.JPG)
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A new Paul Wilczynski-built 4005/8WB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/370888019009?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item565aa60c41) complete with potato headstock.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FJwAAOxyVh5SIK~0/$T2eC16FHJHgFFmGC3oPbBSIK+zZ)q!~~60_57.JPG)
That's the only Ric body style that really, deeply appeals to me. Very cool.
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A new Paul Wilczynski-built 4005/8WB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/370888019009?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item565aa60c41) complete with potato headstock.
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What's up with that? Is this some officially sanctioned copy?
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(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/emotipics/LOL_56121b_482311-1.gif) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/forums/emotipics/LOL_56121b_482311-1.gif.html)
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What's up with that? Is this some officially sanctioned copy?
He's working closely with RIC and was commissioned to build the acoustics for them and slap a real Rickenbacker TRC on the headstock, so he's become sort of like a RIC custom shop. He uses genuine RIC parts for his builds that I assume he gets from the factory, and the methods and materials RIC uses. So I wouldn't call it a copy, he will not build something that John Hall would not approve (or know of).
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Then at least it's officially sanctioned.
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This is what Paul Wilczynski posted to the RRF on Apr. 2011: "here are some detailed photos of the double-bound Fireglo 4005/8 I scratchbuilt for Graham Griffiths, per his order and with permission from John Hall. Graham had sent a 4005 to me to restore, which was too far gone to do anything with (butchered body, short-scale, neck, wrong fretboard, etc.). With JH's permission, I re-used most of the hardware and wiring from the donor 4005, including the TRC and all-important jackplate with its serial number."
The tailpiece looks like a 12-string guitar part, skipping the A and B string slots.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3079/5711378572_fcf06346d0_z.jpg)
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Well, it's not a factory Rickenbacker, but the seller doesn't claim it is.
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The thing that bothers me is that it's a 2-years old bass wearing a '67 serial number. It should have been equipped with a 2011 plate. I would have asked RIC to supply a custom plate numbered 11 1967.
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Has anyone looked at the other ten Ricky's the same seller has up...? is that the same 21 fret '69 4001 that was posted here earlier this year...?
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Same one.
I haven't noticed until you pointed it out that he has so many rare Rics on eBay. That is some impressive collection he's selling.
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Ilan, the seller appears to be Graham Griffiths in the U.K. Hope all is well.
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Hmmm... 1966 4000 converted to 4001S (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Rickenbacker-4000-4001s-bass-guitar-/221285254759?pt=Guitar&hash=item3385a10667)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1966-Rickenbacker-4000-4001s-bass-guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/yT8AAOxyq15SOdva/$T2eC16JHJHkFFmGfp5KiBSOdv,Bj5!~~60_57.JPG)
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Nice looker. Don't think he'll get that price with the changes that were made.
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Close one. $3K doesn't seem that bad considering it (allegedly) hasn't been routed. I've read of a number of 4000 basses that were factory routed for a neck pickup. Looks great, and I don't even like MapleGlo! :mrgreen:
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4080 in Spain (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GUITARRA-RICKENBACKER-DOBLE-MASTIL-4080-/221283217597?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item338581f0bd) - EUR 5,800
That's the later model with the deeper neck pockets.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GUITARRA-RICKENBACKER-DOBLE-MASTIL-4080-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDcx/z/XDIAAMXQPGJSNQEy/$(KGrHqVHJF!FIp7v!N51BSNQEyQ3v!~~60_12.JPG)
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The one-off Ric Outlet Tobacco Burst/BT "RM1999" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Bass-2010-One-Of-A-Kind-Model-1999-Tobacco-Burst-/400577631474?pt=Guitar&hash=item5d444994f2) is on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-Bass-2010-One-Of-A-Kind-Model-1999-Tobacco-Burst-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/Q7MAAOxyAs9SP4vj/$T2eC16RHJGEFFmq3NqSGBSP4vi)nN!~~60_3.JPG)
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The one-off Ric Outlet Tobacco Burst/BT "RM1999" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Bass-2010-One-Of-A-Kind-Model-1999-Tobacco-Burst-/400577631474?pt=Guitar&hash=item5d444994f2) is on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-Bass-2010-One-Of-A-Kind-Model-1999-Tobacco-Burst-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/Q7MAAOxyAs9SP4vj/$T2eC16RHJGEFFmq3NqSGBSP4vi)nN!~~60_3.JPG)
And featured on page 138 of the book!
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Paul Wilczynski sells his "fretless Shadow" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNPLAYED-CUSTOM-RICKENBACKER-FRETLESS-SHADOW-BASS-/331040521759?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d138d7e1f) that he made from a 1976 4001. Black horseshoe and 1/2-inch spacing.
One-of-a-kind mod, very tastefully done.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/UNPLAYED-CUSTOM-RICKENBACKER-FRETLESS-SHADOW-BASS-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/7NMAAOxyZwpSU4mB/$T2eC16d,!)cFId!(sToiBSU4m!pFyQ~~60_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/UNPLAYED-CUSTOM-RICKENBACKER-FRETLESS-SHADOW-BASS-/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/JgEAAOxyBXNSU4mA/$(KGrHqJ,!o4FI5u0hjMoBSU4m!bU8Q~~60_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/UNPLAYED-CUSTOM-RICKENBACKER-FRETLESS-SHADOW-BASS-/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/e3QAAOxyGqZSU4mA/$(KGrHqR,!rQFJI1zj(KvBSU4m!OC7g~~60_3.JPG)
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It is tastefully done, but $4299 BIN for a fretless that's not a real Shadow seems unrealistic to me.
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Agreed. Even if this was a one-off RIC-made real Shadow from the same batch (Sep-Dec '86), $4,300 is way too high.
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Gorgeous, like all his stuff. Out of my price range by a long shot.
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It is tastefully done, but $4299 BIN for a fretless that's not a real Shadow seems unrealistic to me.
Yes, but a BIN price is for those who have deep pockets and don't mind paying top dollar to ensure they get what they want. He has a reserve, but the bidding started at $99 so he's clearly trying to see what he can get for it. My guess is the reserve will be around $3Gs. That's about what I'm asking for on my Shadow.
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Yours is a real Shadow, though. Even if his reserve is around 3K, it's not the real deal.
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Beautiful looking instrument though...
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A pre-Snowglo '98 WHT/reverse trim (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Rickenbacker-4003-White-on-White-Bass-Guitar-4001-/181241825590?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a32dac936) (white on white)... very attractive.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Oct%2015/DSC07101-1.jpg)
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That 4004 Sno is pretty but this lady is drop-dead gorgeous...
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As cool as it gets: 1970 Azureglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Rickenbacker-4001-4003-Checkerboard-Binding-Azureglo-Vintage-/161132017237?pt=Guitar&hash=item2584377655) (my favorite RIC color), checkerboard, gap tooth, full width crushed pearl inlays, plexi TRC...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1970-Rickenbacker-4001-4003-Checkerboard-Binding-Azureglo-Vintage-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/hioAAOxyA9dSZEWd/$T2eC16JHJGMFFpriykvwBSZEWc08i!~~60_57.JPG)
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Beauty! Checkerboard binding looks to be in surprisingly nice shape.
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Shadow #ZK3210 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171161526962&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en) (Nov. '86). Non-original pickguard (v63-style, wide and non-humped, without drilling new holes). $3,500 starting bid.
EDIT: Relisted with a $4,000 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4003-rare-Shadow-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/JjUAAOxyiRlScEjg/$T2eC16RHJIMFHIz4h8QIBScEjf,BTw~~60_57.JPG)
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Beauty! Crazy money, though.
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Beauty! Crazy money, though.
This bass (ZK3210) was sold on eBay for $5,000 on March 12, 2007. The seller was godzillagonzalez4u and the buyer was lmw55if.
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Shadow #ZK3210 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171161526962&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en) (Nov. '86). Non-original pickguard (v63-style, wide and non-humped, without drilling new holes). $3,500 starting bid.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4003-rare-Shadow-Bass-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/JjUAAOxyiRlScEjg/$T2eC16RHJIMFHIz4h8QIBScEjf,BTw~~60_57.JPG)
I know where you can get one in better shape for $400 less. ;) :mrgreen:
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1991 4003S WHT/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1991-RICKENBACKER-4003S-BASS-Excellent-Condition-/171177372402?pt=Guitar&hash=item27daf76af2)... a fretboard enamel (and COA) away from becoming a Tuxedo.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-1991-RICKENBACKER-4003S-BASS-Excellent-Condition-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTM3/z/wLgAAOxygj5Si2EC/$_57.JPG)
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1991 is now vintage, eh?
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At least for some, I guess... Personally I can't refer to anything after 1980 as "vintage". Before 1940 it's "antique", after 1980 it's "used".
I know that in the 80's, a 20 year old guitar was "vintage". Now it just isn't. In 1982 Fender started producing a "1962 Vintage Reissue". They should have called them "Classic". I don't think now in 2013 they will make a "1993 Vintage Reissue".
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1991 4003S WHT/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1991-RICKENBACKER-4003S-BASS-Excellent-Condition-/171177372402?pt=Guitar&hash=item27daf76af2)... a fretboard enamel (and COA) away from becoming a Tuxedo.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-1991-RICKENBACKER-4003S-BASS-Excellent-Condition-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTM3/z/wLgAAOxygj5Si2EC/$_57.JPG)
Needs a maple fingerboard. ;)
Great looking bass from my favorite era of Rickenbacker's. And my favorite model! Silly asking price though.
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Speaking of Rics, my lefty 4001CS is pictured in the new Rickenbacker Bass book.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/iamthebassman/8beed935-62d3-4fc2-af3e-f84a94a9a7d7_zps2d6279aa.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/iamthebassman/media/8beed935-62d3-4fc2-af3e-f84a94a9a7d7_zps2d6279aa.jpg.html)
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Blackstar #17 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Rickenbacker-4003-Blackstar-Bass-Guitar-4003S-SPC-/171180654543?pt=Guitar&hash=item27db297fcf)... $2,700 Starting bid $3,525 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1988-Rickenbacker-4003-Blackstar-Bass-Guitar-4003S-SPC-/00/s/MTYwMFg1Njg=/z/sGEAAOxydB1SkSMN/$_57.JPG)
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An unusual RED '96 4003 in "reverse trim" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Ultra-Rare-Ferrari-Red-finish-/231107656724?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cf16fc14) (chrome/white instead of the standard RED/BT). I love it.
There was another one that sold from Japan in May, it was a '98 and had a similar color bleed into the binding.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4003-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Ultra-Rare-Ferrari-Red-finish-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YhcAAMXQfvlSm9NO/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4003-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Ultra-Rare-Ferrari-Red-finish-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/sk8AAMXQUmFSm9MO/$_57.JPG)
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I remember when they couldn't give away red ones in the early to mid 80s. Times change.
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I remember when they couldn't give away red ones in the early to mid 80s. Times change.
Maybe. No bids yet. ;)
Good looking bass. Very Christmas-y! That color looks so much better with the white/chrome.
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I agree. The black trim with red wasn't nearly as nice.
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I agree. The black trim with red wasn't nearly as nice.
And that is why they couldn't give away red ones in the 80s.
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And that is why they couldn't give away red ones in the 80s.
I don't know. If they couldn't "give them away" in the '80s, then why was the color available from 1985 to 1998, and most of them with black trim?
But I'll agree that colors other than the evergreen trio (Fireglo, Jetglo, and Mapleglo) are comparatively a tough sell. Some of my personal favorite colors were poor sellers: Sea Green, Turquoise, Ruby. The trouble with marketing on nostalgia is that the buyers mostly want the old standby colors and features. Höfner tried red burst and blue burst 500/1 basses around 2000-'01, and apparently had difficulty selling only a hundred or so. The traditional brown burst (or violin finish or whatever they call it) sells like hotcakes.
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Ricks weren't selling well around here for a number of years, and there were some that hung in stores for years. An unusual number of them were red, usually with black trim. A friend of mine bought his red/BT 360 for well below dealer cost about 1994 because it had been there so long.
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(or violin finish or whatever they call it)
They call it Brunette.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-EXCELLENT-Rare-as-hens-t-eeth-according-to-Hall-/141116258039? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-EXCELLENT-Rare-as-hens-t-eeth-according-to-Hall-/141116258039?)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-EXCELLENT-Rare-as-hens-t-eeth-according-to-Hall-/141116258039? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4002-BASS-1982-EXCELLENT-Rare-as-hens-t-eeth-according-to-Hall-/141116258039?)
Yeah, that one and an early 4000 have been on eBay for at least a year, both set at unrealistic prices. I suppose some fool with more money than sense will pay that much someday, but more recent 4002 sales have been more like $5G - $8Gs.
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For a fraction of that price I'm sure you can have one of the Ric-knowledgeable luthiers convert a 4003 to a 4002.
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For a fraction of that price I'm sure you can have one of the Ric-knowledgeable luthiers convert a 4003 to a 4002.
And it wouldn't sound as good.
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Yeah, that one and an early 4000 have been on eBay for at least a year, both set at unrealistic prices. I suppose some fool with more money than sense will pay that much someday, but more recent 4002 sales have been more like $5G - $8Gs.
It looks like all the instruments from that seller are listed at ridiculous prices. Not really sure about that strategy... :-\
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For a fraction of that price I'm sure you can have one of the Ric-knowledgeable luthiers convert a 4003 to a 4002.
And it wouldn't sound as good.
Reminds me- there was a nice thread (well, it started nice) recently over at RR about the 4002 pickups. Gut shots, winding specs, etc...
http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=399191
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1960 4000 - refin w/BA bridge (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/131068616546?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e844c5f62)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/ODIwWDE2MDA=/z/SRsAAOxyTjNSo4d9/$_57.JPG)
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"paper thin neck" sounds like a caution to me. Action looks high too. OTOH if you really want an early 4000, there it is.
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The BadAss does look more at home there than the original 6-slot guitar units that came with the bass in 1960.
The action, judging by this pic... I've seen worse.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/ODMzWDE2MDA=/z/rrAAAOxyNo9So4fK/$_57.JPG)
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The seller bought this used and remembers it as being a 1960, but I'm pretty sure they started making the thinner bodies and longer upper horn as this one has in '61. A couple of 4000 basses from 1962 have turned up with the old-style pickguard and bridges. I don't know for sure, but it seems that the current style of pickguard and the infamous Rick cast tailpiece/bridge/mute assembly started to appear in 1962. So far, the only known 1961 two-pickup Rick bass appears to have been an experimental prototype, "lavishly" illustrated in my book.
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I was going by this pic. Looks high to me.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/WAEAAOxy63FSo4fe/$_57.JPG)
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That is a really thin neck.
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1983 4001S in white (http://www.ebay.com/itm/rickenbacker-bass-4001s-RARE-white-black-1983-Free-shipping-in-USA-/161174678498?pt=Guitar&hash=item2586c26be2), with a set neck and (as with all Ric set-neck 4000's) off-axis body. Starting bid is $900, no reserve.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/rickenbacker-bass-4001s-RARE-white-black-1983-Free-shipping-in-USA-/00/s/ODAwWDMwOQ==/z/SOUAAOxyUrZSq9ze/$_3.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/rickenbacker-bass-4001s-RARE-white-black-1983-Free-shipping-in-USA-/00/s/ODAwWDQyMg==/z/GM4AAOxycmBSq9zf/$_3.JPG)
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1960 4000 - refin w/BA bridge (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/131068616546?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e844c5f62)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/ODIwWDE2MDA=/z/SRsAAOxyTjNSo4d9/$_57.JPG)
Another DREAM bass...I aksed him if he would be interested in a trade for a 1965 Gibson Thunderbird.
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Another DREAM bass...I aksed him if he would be interested in a trade for a 1965 Gibson Thunderbird.
If he agrees, better make sure you have a right to cancel. Super thin neck, high action, you could wind up with an expensive wall hanging.
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Very attractive flame top on this 4004Cii (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4004ii-Cheyenne-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/271355062541?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f2e05a90d)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4004ii-Cheyenne-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/eosAAOxyNo9SsMVH/$_57.JPG)
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I was going by this pic. Looks high to me.
Check out this 4001S on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Rickenbacker-Super-Rare-4000-Bass-Fireglow-Super-Cool-Paul-McCartney-style-/141149035935?pt=Guitar&hash=item20dd235d9f), Dave... You can drive a bus under the strings. But this one is a set neck and the neck angle can be corrected.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1981-Rickenbacker-Super-Rare-4000-Bass-Fireglow-Super-Cool-Paul-McCartney-style-/00/s/OTM3WDE2MDA=/z/h-gAAOxydB1Sfyjf/$_57.JPG)
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Wow, that's bad. Overpriced considering the expense of a neck reset, which itself will affect the value.
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Set neck and a neck pickup swimming pool rout, not an ideal combination.
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1968 4001 in Italy, €6,000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-1968-Fireglo-Horseshoe-pickup-Checkerboard-binding-/251413081318?pt=Bassi&hash=item3a89632ce6), here's what Google Translate returns from the original text -
Rickembacker 4001 Bass 1968 serial number : HF 1112 ( see photo) , Fireglo , Horseshoe pickup , Checkerboard binding - Important tool "vintage" , in excellent condition , the inevitable signs of wear due to normal use are made ??over the years in concerts, shows etc. . (see photo gigamti ), and in Bass has never had " broken " , it has never been replaced in " remanufactured " parts , completely original , only the two screws of the pick -up bridge and some screws on the pickguard and bridge replaced as consumed , all the mechanics , the pick-up and circling original and perfectly working (see photo details ), there are missing parts, hard case at the time ( see photo) the bass plays very well in his unmistakable "Sound Rickenbacker " , a sound that has made the "History " of music over the past 50 years by Paul McCartney of the Beatles Chris Quire of Yes to countless other musicians. Truly unique piece for collectors. Do not pass ! You will not find ever more under these conditions ( these conditions ) . If you are really interested do not hesitate to ask for more information and photos of details. Happy bidding !
ps. The bass was purchased by me in person in 1969 in the musical instrument store " Polidori " in Pesaro , in 1974 he played in the group " Balletto di Bronzo " - (known group "progressive" era ) , in addition to the first owner ( perhaps the bassist of " the Primitives ," but I'm not sure ) had no other owners . Spreader is ( subject to agreement ) having the vision and try the bass at my home, for direct contact : George 348 2217334
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-1968-Fireglo-Horseshoe-pickup-Checkerboard-binding-/00/s/MTYwMFg2MzU=/z/p5IAAOxyLN9SkOb1/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-1968-Fireglo-Horseshoe-pickup-Checkerboard-binding-/00/s/MTYwMFg2NDg=/z/BFUAAOxy4t1SkOiH/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-1968-Fireglo-Horseshoe-pickup-Checkerboard-binding-/00/s/MTYwMFg5ODg=/z/wRgAAOxyXDhSkOiX/$_57.JPG)
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Seller played it in a prog band? That ought to devalue it by at least 50%. :mrgreen:
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... Unless the Prog band was Yes... ;D
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...or Renaissance.
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... and even the mighty D**p P*rpl* were once classed as Prog...
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Is it just me or is this loong thread supposed to start at the very beginning?
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It's being derailed sometimes, Bob, but always comes back to posting links to cool Ric auctions.
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It's being derailed sometimes, Bob, but always comes back to posting links to cool Ric auctions.
Haha! Thanks Ilan, meandering is good, I meant when I click on it instead of it going to the end (this post for example) it goes to the very beginning, I've never seen a thread do that before.
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Haha! Thanks Ilan, meandering is good, I meant when I click on it instead of it going to the end (this post for example) it goes to the very beginning, I've never seen a thread do that before.
You should see New after the thread title if there's a new post, clicking on that should take you to the end.
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You have to start all threads from the beginning... consider it... a Rick of passage... ;)
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You should see New after the thread title if there's a new post, clicking on that should take you to the end.
Nope still went to the beginning, wierd. At least now i know I click on the number of the last thread, in this case #58 and scroll down to the bottom and I'm there.
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Nope still went to the beginning, wierd. At least now i know I click on the number of the last thread, in this case #58 and scroll down to the bottom and I'm there.
Bob, maybe it's time for you to upgrade from Windows 3.1. ;D
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At least to 3.11, then you can use double-space...
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'97 4001v63 Midnight Blue (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-RICKENBACKER-USA-4001-V63-BASS-SUPER-CLEAN-ULTRA-RARE-/181300697123?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a365d1823) in Japan. $2,600 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/z/vAAAAOxycmBS00rs/$_12.JPG)
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Cool paint job - $5K BIN... but cool paint job.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-Custom-Hand-Painted-Rickenbacker-4003-Electric-Bass-Guitar-2004-4001-/121272203237?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c3c62f7e5
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/Ck4AAMXQVERS9tSa/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/nFMAAOxydlFS9tSc/$_57.JPG)
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It's an impressive paint job, I'll grant him that.
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We've posted his work before... he's got a couple of "Fool" SG's for sale at present, too...
It looks like nice workmanship, as with the rest of the sellers work...
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I don't remember seeing his work before. He's not that "el dega" guy or whatever his name was. This guy is good, although I'd never want anything like it.
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Looks pretty similar... (presumption)
I wonder if it's the same seller under a different name...? :-\
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Looks pretty similar... (presumption)
I wonder if it's the same seller under a different name...? :-\
I don't think it looks similar at all.
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I think this was the one I was thinking of...
http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the-artist-series.html (http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/the-artist-series.html)
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A stunning and very early 4080 in AzureGlo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331138309209?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk1/z/WeAAAOxyYSdTDNUT/$_57.JPG)
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Yow! Love the azureglow/BT.
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That's beautiful
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'77 4002
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDY0MA==/z/6ysAAOxy0NtTBURn/$_3.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Rickenbacker-Bass-4002-/171253206766?pt=Guitar&hash=item27df7c8eee
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Did you read the story on that 4002?
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Did you read the story on that 4002?
Yeah crazy! It's been through quite a lot. It's incredible that it looks so good. I'll bet it's history drastically affects it's salability though, especially at that price. Although I'm no expert. What do you Rick aficionados think?
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I wouldn't want to touch it. It's not exceptional looking, and it's not just a refin, it's a complete rebuild.
"prized collectables" -- complete sales duds.
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At least he's out front about its history. The rest is up to the market.
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True. No idea what any of these have actually sold for. Asking price isn't necessarily any kind of guide for something like this.
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1970 Azureglo 4001
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161244101122&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Oct%2015/DSC07175-1.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Oct%2015/DSC07179-1.jpg)
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As perfect as they get. Come on RIC, reissue that!
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As perfect as they get. Come on RIC, reissue that!
+1!
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And how hard is it really? Now that they have finally got the body shape right, and the full-width inlays, and they already make vintage-style Plexi TRC's, toaster and horseshoe pickups, all that's needed is a small effort to add checkerboard binding... and a run of correct-hue Azureglo.
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And how hard is it really? Now that they have finally got the body shape right, and the full-width inlays, and they already make vintage-style Plexi TRC's, toaster and horseshoe pickups, all that's needed is a small effort to add checkerboard binding... and a run of correct-hue Azureglo.
Have they done anything in Azureglo in recent years? If so, is it different from the old days?
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Have they done anything in Azureglo in recent years? If so, is it different from the old days?
Nope! Azureglo was replaced by Midnight Blue (a metallic rich blue) in 1985. There is also Blueburst, Blue Boy (pale blue) and Trans Blue (on the 4004Cii only). Then of course there is Sea Green (which is more like a bright aquamarine) and Turquoise (which is a metallic blue-green or teal). All of that is in the book (Dave, you need to get a copy!).
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(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/160/2/6/VW_Bus_1_by_cmdpirxII.jpg)
Azureglo started when someone at RIC (JH?) saw a blue VW microbus parked across the street from the factory and liked the color.
So it started with the exact hue that VW used, but then it changed. On some years it's dark, on others it's more bright. Just like Midnight Blue, which started as a metallic version of Azureglo, but changed over the years, from dark blue to almost-purple, and then back to blue.
The 1970 pic shows the nicest hue of Azureglo, IMHO.
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Nope! Azureglo was replaced by Midnight Blue (a metallic rich blue) in 1985. There is also Blueburst, Blue Boy (pale blue) and Trans Blue (on the 4004Cii only). Then of course there is Sea Green (which is more like a bright aquamarine) and Turquoise (which is a metallic blue-green or teal). All of that is in the book (Dave, you need to get a copy!).
Okay, now I got it. The 1970 on eBay is what I think of as Azureglo. It's the Midnight Blue that's changed over the years. I don't like the more recent Midnight Blue as much.
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G&L's Blueburst is like that. In sunlight, the "black" edges turn bright purple. The prettiest blue finish I have ever seen is the Fender Blueburst on the Bonnie Raitt signature Strat. I have never seen that finish on ANYTHING else made by Fender.
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What about this 2004 4003 in Blue Boy. Pretty but $2895? Is that because of the relatively rare color? Same seller that has the '70 in Azureglo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Rickenbacker-4003-Light-Blue-Boy-Bass-Guitar-4001-/151241238522?pt=Guitar&hash=item2336ae27fa
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/June%2024/DSC07256.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/June%2024/DSC07253.jpg)
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BlueBoy is definitely on my wish list. Kinda like Fender's Sonic Blue from the 50's. But not for anywhere near $2,895.
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Thanks. That's what I figured. It's only ten years old. That's a lot of $$$ just for a particular finish. It is really beautiful though.
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You could buy any old 4003 and get it re-finished for less than that. :rolleyes:
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You could buy any old 4003 and get it re-finished for less than that. :rolleyes:
And if you got it done right, it might even stay blue instead of turning green in a couple of years like a number of these did.
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Pelham blue turning green is pretty cool. Sonic blue turning surf puke green is a bummer.
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Unusual ho - "Amazing Lightful" (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMAZING-LIGHTFUL-BASS-GUITAR-No-Gibson-Fender-o-Hofner-/351021268031?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item51ba7f7c3f)
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LOL... never thought I'd see a Light Show faker
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/AMAZING-LIGHTFUL-BASS-GUITAR-No-Gibson-Fender-o-Hofner-/00/s/ODEzWDM2MA==/z/jx0AAOxyeR9THuxM/$_12.JPG)
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Thought that might give you a chuckle... stumbled on this as they've tucked Gibson in the link...
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I think that would be in the hollowbody category.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/AMAZING-LIGHTFUL-BASS-GUITAR-No-Gibson-Fender-o-Hofner-/00/s/Nzc1WDU4Mg==/z/j6sAAOxyeR9THuxS/$_12.JPG)
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72 4000
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-Guitar-Extremely-Rare-Neck-Through-Body-Near-Mint-/111303092109?pt=Guitar&hash=item19ea2e678d
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/LiEAAOxycmBS8n79/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDAwWDYwMA==/z/0uoAAOxyj4hTHwk1/$_3.JPG)
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So cool.
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1981 4005 in Walnut - rare finish especially on 4005's - this one is (was?) Bert Heitling's. It's on p.46 of Paul Boyer's book.
Sensible (IMHO) $5,900 BIN price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Rickenbacker-4005-bass-walnut/331162442978
I hope whoever buys it DOESN'T refinish it.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY3/z/sDIAAOxydUJTMqJC/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY3/z/z5kAAMXQydtTMqJF/$_57.JPG)
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1971 4001 Glueburst (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-1970-1969-1968-1972-1973-classic-vintage-old-fender/181363162989) - $3,799 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjE3WDk5OA==/z/cowAAMXQydtTNHb7/$_57.JPG)
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4005/8WB 8 string
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4005-8WB-8-string-bass-/371017089661?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item566257827d
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ii0AAMXQ7j1SIK~v/$T2eC16RHJGYE9nooh8IoBSIK+uzsM!~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/kaYAAOxyDoZSIK~o/$T2eC16RHJIMFHJI+GE)4BSIK+nqwOg~~60_12.JPG)
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This one is a recent build, by Paul Wilczynski, around relatively few Ric parts, the numbered jack plate among them. Rickenbacker allowed it, but there was some discussion whether this should be considered a real Ric. My personal take was that if RIC authorized it, then it's "real", but a new jack plate with a 2007 date code should have been used.
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Two new limited color options from Japan on eBay...
Metallic Plumglo - kinda like Fender's Burgundy Mist -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Limited-4003-Metallic-Plumglo-Guitar-Made-in-USA-/161262395530
(http://img12.shop-pro.jp/PA01065/555/product/72154214_o10.jpg?20140308152542)
Santa Ana Skyglo - looks like a brighter shade of Midnight Blue -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Limited-4003-Santa-Ana-Skyglo-Guitar-Made-in-USA-/151265704899
(http://img12.shop-pro.jp/PA01065/555/product/72154333_o8.jpg?20140308152437)
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Two new limited color options from Japan on eBay...
Metallic Plumglo - kinda like Fender's Burgundy Mist -
Santa Ana Skyglo - looks like a brighter shade of Midnight Blue -
Wow those are beautiful. Are those Japan only colors? Love the Plumglo.
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Those pics show the metallic nature of the fins much better than that other post...
They both really "jump" out nicely...
Re the eight-string "ho" ... I don't get the "authorised" part ... this is or is not a Ric... they are ultra "brand" conscious, so if they condone this, it must be the "real-deal" ... ?
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Re the eight-string "ho" ... I don't get the "authorised" part ... this is or is not a Ric... they are ultra "brand" conscious, so if they condone this, it must be the "real-deal" ... ?
Hey Ken- there's a thread here about that bass: http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=400783&hilit=4005%2F8
Really beautiful! Wish I could afford the cost of admission.
Apparently it was built by the fellow who was producing Ric acoustics under license, and this 8er was born from the ashes of a butchered 4005, parts reused, permission obtained, etc.
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Re the eight-string "ho" ... I don't get the "authorised" part ... this is or is not a Ric... they are ultra "brand" conscious, so if they condone this, it must be the "real-deal" ... ?
Hey Ken- there's a thread here about that bass: http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=400783&hilit=4005%2F8
Really beautiful! Wish I could afford the cost of admission.
Apparently it was built by the fellow who was producing Ric acoustics under license, and this 8er was born from the ashes of a butchered 4005, parts reused, permission obtained, etc.
Handcrafted or not, authorized or not, IMHO there's no way that's a real Rickenbacker. It did not leave the factory that way. It was "scratchbuilt", as the builder himself put it.
If you had a Fender bass that was damaged in an accident and you replaced the body and neck with factory authorized parts while reusing some original hardware and electronics, nobody would call it anything but a partscaster. How is this bass any different?
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Handcrafted or not, authorized or not, IMHO there's no way that's a real Rickenbacker. It did not leave the factory that way. It was "scratchbuilt", as the builder himself put it.
Right- I don't see it as a factory Ric any more than any other "licensed-by" (or in this case, gentleman's handshake) product... but it seems to have been built by capable hands, and I can't help but speculate that it would probably be a good player (eight saddle bridge and low action in the pics). Maybe even better than a real 4005/8, if one were available.
It's apparent that he's not going to be able to fetch a price in original-4005 territory because of this - otherwise it'd be gone by now.
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... How is this bass any different?
I guess it's as I noted... Fender don't go after people with as much zeal as some other do if you deign to put their logo on a "ho" ... I do agree with you though; jus the circumstances are unusual for the Co in question...
(cheers for the link, Joe)
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I guess it's as I noted... Fender don't go after people with as much zeal as some other do if you deign to put their logo on a "ho" ... I do agree with you though; jus the circumstances are unusual for the Co in question...
(cheers for the link, Joe)
It doesn't even have to be a "ho" -- you can now buy genuine Fender necks and bodies separately again, and there are eBay sellers like thestratosphere who part out new Fenders. Point is, if the body and neck of your bass aren't the same as what left the factory, then it's a parts instrument. Nothing wrong with that, of course , as long as it's clearly disclosed.
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A 2009 "white Shadow" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-RICKENBACKER-USA-4003-CB-CHECKERBOARD-BINDING-ULTRA-CLEAN-SUPER-RARE-/171285789792)... there was a '73 like that on eBay but that one was refinished. This one is original white-on-white with checkerboard binding.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/z/Cx8AAMXQeKNTOgwC/$_57.JPG)
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That ought to sell quickly.
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This 4003W (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Rickenbacker-4003-Walnut-Electric-Bass-Guitar-with-Case-Natural-/321375115726) has gorgeous grain.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY3/z/-lkAAOxyaTxTRZO~/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY3/z/DscAAOxy0x1TRZPN/$_57.JPG)
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Didn't these sell for quite a bit more new? The "battle scars" aren't worth worrying about.
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+1 on the grain ... 8)
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I like the BACK of the walnut basses, but I'd like to see a maple top. In Autumnglo... With checkerboard binding... And black plastic... 8)
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I like the BACK of the walnut basses, but I'd like to see a maple top. In Autumnglo... With checkerboard binding... And black plastic... 8)
Roger that... maybe even BTBH. :vader:
(did I say that out loud?)
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Bells and whistles ... ?
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Not I. There are enough maple tops out there, not to mention enough all-maple Ricks. I love walnut.
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Joseph Starost's one-off 4004 in see-through TV Yellow with black hardware (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Rickenbacker-4004-Cii-TVY-BH-/171300164212?pt=Guitar&hash=item27e2491274) and ebony fretboard is on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg0NzI=/z/7k4AAOxy0x1TSt1R/$_57.JPG)
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Nice! He's had that for sale on Talkbass as well since the end of Feb.
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Nice! He's had that for sale on Talkbass as well since the end of Feb.
At that price no wonder it hasn't sold.
That's not my idea of TV Yellow. IMHO it's ugly.
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It's cool if you're into the yellow and black thing, but I don't get the walnut headstock wings. ???
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but I don't get the walnut headstock wings
I never got that, in any finish (maybe except for the new W series where it makes aesthetic sense), but everybody else seems to like them, probably because that's how the early ones were made.
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It's cool if you're into the yellow and black thing, but I don't get the walnut headstock wings. ???
Reminds me of the Killer Bees from early SNL.
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I thought TV yellow was a lot less saturated than that color.
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I thought the Cii had a figured maple top and a slice of walnut sandwiched in between. This one looks like a Laredo to me.
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Jetglo w/yellowed checkerboard binding, honest player wear, and even the "narrow" inlays (yes I like those more than full width) - this June '73 transition 4001 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Jetglo-Bass-Guitar-Checkerboard-Binding-Vintage-4003/151328250956) looks awesome.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/L-YAAOSw7PBTnNNK/$_57.JPG)
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Too bad about the neck repair.
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Not a fan of the small inlays, otherwise a nice bass. 8)
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Jetglo w/yellowed checkerboard binding, honest player wear, and even the "narrow" inlays (yes I like those more than full width) - this June '73 transition 4001 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Jetglo-Bass-Guitar-Checkerboard-Binding-Vintage-4003/151328250956) looks awesome.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/L-YAAOSw7PBTnNNK/$_57.JPG)
Nice bass! Mine has vaguely similar "thumbrest" wear... :P
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/rickenbacker/DSCF0005.jpg)
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Apr. '64 4001S/1999RM (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Rickenbacker-4001S-Bass-rare-features-/331251321343?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d201e09ff) with a wide walnut center strip, like a 4005. $9,500 BIN. Reissue horseshoe pickup. The bridge is all the way down (no visible screws) and the saddle grooves were deepened; so possibly it has the familiar negative neck angle.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4MFg2NjE=/z/QggAAOSw91NTtG4Y/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4MFg5NjA=/z/63EAAOSwFL9TtG4e/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODY0WDExNTI=/z/PO4AAOSwFAZTtG4g/$_57.JPG)
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Wow, THAT'S unique!
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Too bad about the replacement horseshoe. Guitar Villa is a good company though, John Slog knows his basses.
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Consensus over on RRF is that this was "renecked" (all the way through the body, of course) and has several pieces of newer hardware. Not original to the stated vintage and not worth that kinda vintage money.
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Consensus over on RRF is that this was "renecked" (all the way through the body, of course) and has several pieces of newer hardware. Not original to the stated vintage and not worth that kinda vintage money.
I agree it's overpriced based on the replacement horseshoe alone, but if there's evidence this is renecked, I don't see it from the photos. If there's a good reason to think it has, someone should take it up with John Slog, Guitar Villa's owner. He wouldn't deliberately misrepresent a bass.
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The overly large central stripe is not typical of Ricks of this vintage. On a 4005, yes, but not this model. The volute behind the nut looks funny, but there was a lot of variation there. The heel of the neck also looks odd. With the apparent large number of basses of this era suffering from "bad necks" (mostly damaged by improper truss adjustments), it's not surprising to see an example that has been rebuilt to this extent.
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The overly large central stripe is not typical of Ricks of this vintage. On a 4005, yes, but not this model. The volute behind the nut looks funny, but there was a lot of variation there. The heel of the neck also looks odd. With the apparent large number of basses of this era suffering from "bad necks" (mostly damaged by improper truss adjustments), it's not surprising to see an example that has been rebuilt to this extent.
Well, you're the expert. If I were interested in it, I definitely would bring it to John's attention and see what he says. Not sure of his Rick knowledge but he knows enough to have written a column about vintage basses for Vintage Guitar mag in the 90s.
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I got offered this bass from the seller about a week ago before he listed it but passed. He said his sources told him that a number of these were made. But after doing an extensive web search, I came up with THREE......except all three turned out to be the SAME BASS.
I had photos of this one, sent by the seller. I also found the same bass in its old for sale ad in the UK....and the same bass was listed in the photo files of the Ric Resource website.
This bass has some easy to ID marks on it, so it is definitely the same one.
With all the odd things about it...and only being able to find this single example....I thought it too "iffy."
Seller DOES seem like a nice guy. Also, I had JUST bought a different high-ticket Ric bass from him that I returned , after it turned out to have issues (bad neck angle, undisclosed hidden route, swapped PUP/electronics.) He refunded my money in full, without any problems....and it had been bought directly with a bank check, so he easily could have told me to "FK off" and gotten away with it!! But he was a VERY stand-up guy. Didn't even charge me for the initial shipping, as most dealers would.
So, as a seller, I would HIGHLY recommend him.
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4003SPC Blackstar (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-Blackstar-RARE-/121405078158?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c444e7a8e)... haven't seen one of those on the 'Bay in a long time.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg4ODM=/z/aSgAAOSwRLZT5D3s/$_57.JPG)
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That looks to be in real nice shape. Hard to see if the action might be high. Bet it doesn't stay under 2K.
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Red 8-stringer S/8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-8-Bass-8-Saiten-8-String-/131274489402) in Germany - EUR 2,500 BIN, accepts offers -
EDIT: That's a rare 4008, not 4003S/8 - read Paul Boyers' post for the details
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/UVkAAOSwxH1T9FeP/$_57.JPG)
Desert Gold Fiver S/5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-S-5-String-Bass-Guitar-Desert-Gold-/181500454972) - $5K -
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Aug%2018/DSC00440.jpg)
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Hmm. That 8-string is a 4008. Note the somewhat smaller, more straight-sided head than the 4003S/8, and the tailpiece with the large single opening for string passage. In another photo, it shows a bound neck which clinches it as a 4008. A December 1985 4008 would make it one of the last built. Pretty rare.
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Good catch Paul. And what strange binding it is. Normally on a Ric, the binding goes to the top edge of the fingerboard, then there's a strip of fingerboard visible, then the neck.
(http://www.edroman.com/detail_sheets/images/rickenbacker/rickenbacker-doubleneck-necks-1500.jpg)
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Good point about the shorter headstock and tailpiece opening.
What about the Ric-o-Sound and the black jack plate? Even Shadow jack plates are chrome.
Also, there's this Red S/8... anyone knows anything about it?
http://rickenbackerbass.net/1991-flat-red-4003-s8-rickenbacker-bass-rare/638
(http://rickenbackerbass.net/files/2010/07/-6382506729613600.jpg)(http://rickenbackerbass.net/files/2010/07/-6382506729613601.jpg)
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Don't know about the black jackplate and can't find any consistency of its use.
As stated in the book, "While there are only a few examples to study, it appears that the dual "stereo" outputs of the Rick-O-Sound were standard on the production 4008."
And:
"As with the 4003S and 4003S/5, only the standard monaural output is installed." (on the 4003S/8)
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I owned an '82 fireglo 4008 for a while. I remember someone once stating that it was an S but to me the 4008 is an interesting hybrid of different aspects of both the 4003 & 4003S - unbound body & dot-neck, but with bound fretboard & rick-o-sound - what?!! Plus, the 4008 came with the octave string on top - they reversed it for the 4003S/8.
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This 4008 has the octave string at the bottom. A transitional bass maybe?
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This 4008 has the octave string at the bottom. A transitional bass maybe?
I (think I) remember John Hall stating that the reason that all the tuning pegs are the same size is so that the octave-root relationship can be easily changed - my guess is that this one has been modded? Or maybe Ric was experimenting? I switched my 4003S/8 to have the octave on top, I know that each person is different and has their own preferences, I actually think the Ric design works great in offering that flexibility and I love the way it looks!
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My guess would be that most mods are reversing the unconventional S/8 octave-at-the-bottom to a more reasonable octave-on-top, not vice versa. That and the weird binding (?) lead me to ask if this is a transitional bass from 4008 to what would become the S/8.
4008 implies hairpin truss rods, right?
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Again from the book:
"The new-style truss-rod system of the 4003 was applied to the 4008 basses made in the early 1980s."
However, I have not seen a 4008 with the split pick guard even though it may have the "reversed" hairpin truss rod position. And apparently, all 4008 have bound necks, a field mark that can distinguish the early model from the later unbound-neck 4003S/8.
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My guess would be that most mods are reversing the unconventional S/8 octave-at-the-bottom to a more reasonable octave-on-top, not vice versa. That and the weird binding (?) lead me to ask if this is a transitional bass from 4008 to what would become the S/8.
4008 implies hairpin truss rods, right?
I personally consider octave on top to be more reasonable as well, but I feel like I have met an equal number of people that prefer octave on the bottom. As a matter of fact, the person I sold my 4008 to had it converted right away to octave on bottom!
I'll see if I can dig up pictures of the neck binding on my 4008.
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My guess would be that most mods are reversing the unconventional S/8 octave-at-the-bottom to a more reasonable octave-on-top, not vice versa. That and the weird binding (?) lead me to ask if this is a transitional bass from 4008 to what would become the S/8.
I finally see what you mean about the weird binding! Mine was definitely standard:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5568/15005661635_f13bdc3d10_o.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99859390@N00/15005661635/)
(You can also see how the finish on the fingerboard was messed up...)
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1970 21-fretter in glossy Walnut over birdseye body wings (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-1970-RARE-21-fret-model-Chris-Squire-/371135434564?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5669654f44). GBP 3,995 BIN with "Make Offer" option.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI0OFgxNjAw/z/i6gAAOSw7NNUBZd2/$_57.JPG)
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Ooh, isn't that delicious?
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Contemplating new growth in The Forest, Paul? ;)
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No, my timber days are through. I'm down to eight Ricks, three of them for sale and I'll keep five for now. But that one is sure yummy!
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(http://wowsugar.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/3c63b-texaverywolfeyes.png)
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+1 but maybe more stalk on the eyeballs...
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'94 4004C (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Rickenbacker-4004-CI-OHSC-/151405012177?pt=Guitar&hash=item23407124d1) - 1st generation. $1.6K starting bid, $2.2K BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUyMVgxMTAx/z/uVQAAOSwEK9UDSAb/$_57.JPG)
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Might be okay at the starting bid. Not at the BIN.
Seller's feedback isn't the best.
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The second Rick I ever owned is one like that, bought from Dave W! Remember that, Dave? I think it was 2003. Still a lovely bass.
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Sure I do! You bought it from me about 2003-04 but IIRC it's an early one from the 90s. I bought it from forum member Mark F. (fur85) and he wasn't the original owner.
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Yes, it's a '93 (second year of 4004C production), and I think I got it from you in summer of '03. Still have it. I had Jeff Rath mod it with a V/V/T setup (no switch), and it's one of five Ricks I'm retaining. I've sold 12 since I started to "harvest" the "Rickenbacker National Forest" with three more to sell.
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'84 4080 Jetglo. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Rickenbacker-4080-doubleneck-bass-guitar-/281441775735?pt=Guitar&hash=item41873cb077)
I'd swap the guards for black, a-la Geddy.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODA3WDQ4MA==/z/4zkAAOSwGvhT~HAl/$_57.JPG)
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I have to admit, I really love the 4080 - don't ever see myself owning one but have imagined using it on certain songs to switch back & forth between bass & guitar...
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And this '81 Burgundyglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Rickenbacker-4080-Doubleneck-/371144391273) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/5~kAAOSwnDZT8eVY/$_57.JPG)
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...and a white '81 4080/12 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4080-1981-/201173357316).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/5kYAAOSwxH1UGaSv/$_57.JPG)
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Talk about buses all coming at once... ;)
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Too bad it's turned Bananaglo. ;D
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Too bad it's turned Bananaglo. ;D
Banana + white guards = Chris Squire.
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Banana + white guards = Chris Squire.
Yup, got one of those. :mrgreen:
But banana + black = bumble bee. ;D
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Dec. '85 Red/BT 4003S/8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-8-Bass-8-Saiten-8-String-/131300368829) in Hamburg, Germany -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/UVkAAOSwxH1T9FeP/$_57.JPG)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/RnkAAOSwVFlT9FeZ/$_57.JPG)
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4004 Cheyenne Mk I (http://www.ebay.com/itm/151442782823), first year of production, real beauty and the usual Olivia's hi-res bass porn. $1,940 BIN.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/93rick4004ciwalnut101414/large/IMG_0001.JPG)
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Well, technically, 1992 was the first "year" of the Cheyenne II, but a '93 could have been made within the first year of production. :) A beauty none the less. I have a '93 and it's one of my faves.
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That one looks extra nice, and the BIN is reasonable in today's market.
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Lefty '76 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-1976-Rickenbacker-4000-Electric-Bass-Lefty-Left-Handed-Mapleglo-HSC-/181562171325)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY2/z/BV8AAOSwcu5UQYWD/$_57.JPG)
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How late did they make the 4000's? They are strangely attractive.
But then again, all Rics are..
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How late did they make the 4000's? They are strangely attractive.
But then again, all Rics are..
Yes, they are. The 4000 lasted into the early 1980s. From mid 1972 until the end, the 4000 had a common chassis with the unlisted 4001S, with a two-piece body and a set neck. Note how the reinforcing shedua strip is seen in the neck but not the body. Officially, the 4001, 4000, and 4001S ceased production in 1980, but remained in the catalog for purchase for several more years as inventory was sold off.
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Wow, that late. Did they use the same body routing as the 4001? like the esquires?
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As far as I can tell, sometimes. It was easy to take a body plank off the line and rout it for either one or two pickups (and space for the associated pots and wiring). Sometimes one made for two pickups was finished up as a 4000 (single pickup). Some started as a single pickup model and had additional routing done for two. None of it affected the neck attachment, apparently.
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I imagine the body blanks for the 4001 would be different that the 4000 and 4001S with the 4001 being neck through, though.
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I imagine the body blanks for the 4001 would be different that the 4000 and 4001S with the 4001 being neck through, though.
Certainly. The 4001 (and 4003) had body "wings" that flanked the neck-through plank.
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There were neck-thru 4000's. I was stupid enough to let one go in 2002. Not as nice as this one though.
(http://www.ronsvintage.com/images/7%20(3).JPG)(http://www.ronsvintage.com/images/7%20(4).JPG)
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Yes, ALL Rick 4000 basses from the beginning until mid 1972 were neck through. But it appears that ALL Rick 4000 basses after mid 1972 were set neck. Now, I'm being specific here: The single-pickup 4000 model. Not the full-dress 4001. When we get into other models, that's a different story.
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I don't mind the set-neck construction, in fact it's an advantage if you ever need to correct the neck angle. But the set-necks also had off-axis bodies, which were always a turn-off for me.
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Real nice 4003S/8 at a not so nice price. I hear they're quite negotiable though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151450512903?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDQyNg==/z/KVUAAOSwEppUSEMx/$_12.JPG)
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That's a real beauty!
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A Shadow (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Shadow-4003-4003S-/291285031138) that needs a little TLC
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTI4WDUyMg==/z/xUsAAOSwmUdUVoyv/$_57.JPG)
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Jan '99 v63 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rickenbacker-Fireglo-Electric-Bass-Guitar-w-Case-/291287401747) - starting bid $999. Not a case queen, but I like them this way.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY2/z/qQIAAOSwGWNUWmW8/$_57.JPG)
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That's sweet! I love my V63 it's got a really slim, racy neck. It's my favorite of my three Rics.
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Standard high gain in place of the horseshoe, and remnants of a pot leaf sticker on the back. :mrgreen: Curious to see what they get for it. Real nice bass, and you don't have to worry about making the first scratch in the finish.
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A limited-run 4003 in what looks like Charcoal Frost with checkerboard binding and mirror pickguard and TRC
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-Limited-Model-4003-PJG-Bass-With-Hard-Case/161498988047
(http://www.mikigakki.com/img_system/item_s-4003pjg_photo_1)
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1974 4000 in
Ruby Burgundy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-1974-Ruby-/141496867543).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDI2WDY0MA==/z/~JgAAOSw2XFUggVd/$_12.JPG)
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Burgundy, not Ruby. All of Ruby's permutations are metallic red. This is translucent red - you can see the shedua strip in the set neck through the color.
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A limited-run 4003 in what looks like Charcoal Frost with checkerboard binding and mirror pickguard and TRC
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-Limited-Model-4003-PJG-Bass-With-Hard-Case/161498988047
(http://www.mikigakki.com/img_system/item_s-4003pjg_photo_1)
Japanese market gets all the cool stuff!
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Tuxedo!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/VMAAAOSwEppUUW6o/$_57.JPG)
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/231416974917?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT</a)
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Getting ready for the party season...! 8)
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Wow, is that what they're going for these days? Looks in nice shape, regardless of price.
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Wow, is that what they're going for these days?.
Remember when Tuxes used to fetch $7-8K?
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I had a genuine Tuxedo stripped down to maple then clear-satin coated. Looks much better than the banana-meat aged White. It's available, too:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/Nakedtuxweb.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/Small%20basses/Nakedtuxweb.jpg.html)
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Remember when Tuxes used to fetch $7-8K?
Not long ago a couple sold for just under $2000. So this may be a sign of a revival in the vintage guitar market?
Far fewer Tuxies were made than Blackstars, yet the latter recently have commanded higher prices. As an owner of both st different times I sorta get it I guess.
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The Blackstar looks stunning and Jetglo does not age. If I had a yellowed Tux I'd have it refinished in non-yellowing white. And maybe swap the hardware for chrome and white plastic. Kind of like a Snowglo with an enameled white fretboard.
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This one looks... perfect in every way. Early '73 JG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-RICKENBACKER-4001-JETGLO-OHSC-CHECKER-BOARD-BINDING-/181643402196)- maybe this should be called Amber Jetglo -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTg3WDE2MDA=/z/VWkAAOSwVupTppii/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTg3WDE2MDA=/z/5RYAAOSwrmdTppii/$_57.JPG)
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That my March '73 4001's black brother! 8) Except, that one has rounded corners on the PU surround whereas mine is square cut.
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1979 "vintage Snowglo" - White/white (Reverse Trim) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1979-Rickenbacker-Bass-Guitar-4001-/271753946001). $1.8K BIN:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQ2WDEwMDA=/z/6owAAOSw0e9UxbRa/$_57.JPG)
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I was looking at that white one last night. Looks like a re-fin. I think they may have painted over the body binding, and the finish on the neck goes all the way to the neck binding, rather than leaving part of the fingerboard visible.
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You're right. Refin.
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1968 Mapleglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Rickenbacker-Mapleglo-4001-Bass-Exc-Condition-/311286678316) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/WhsAAOSwZjJU1wjF/$_57.JPG)
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Crazy price on that one.
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Crazy price on that one.
And it only has the following issues:
Back Of Body Has One Small Wood Repair (Please See Pictures)
Belt Buckle Rash On Back Of Body
Non Original Pick Up Selector Switch
Non Original Pots & Electronics
1990's Re Issue RIC Horse Shoe Treble Pick Up Installed On Bass
Bass Has A Minor Binding Issue Near Upper Top Frets
Binding Has Come Unglued Around 3/4 Of An Inch
Changed Nut (See Pictures)
Extra Strap Hole On Top (See Pictures)
Comes With Late 60's-Early 70's RIC Black Tolex Case
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Tux #4 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Rickenbacker-4003-SPC-TUXEDO-Bass-4-of-100-produced-OHSC-/111599216148) Looks very white. They are beautiful when they are not yellowed.
(http://s1.postimg.org/62w13n39b/IMG_3819.jpg)
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Nice one! I looked at the seller's other items, must be a vintage bass collection being liquidated.
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That's a seller in Italy, he always has Rics and other cool stuff on eBay but the prices are never cheap.
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'97 S/5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4003-5-FG-1997-5-STRING-ORIGINAL-near-MINT-1-OWNER-NO-RESERVE-/351329315010) on the 'Bay.
EDIT: Sold for $2,700
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/KFYAAOSwPYZU8kC9/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/xT4AAOSwZjJU8kDi/$_57.JPG)
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...and an '89 S/5 JG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Rickenbacker-4003-S-5-String-Bass-Guitar-Jetglo-/271792214788). $4,195 BIN
(http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1989rickenbacker4003s5string/large/IMG_5404.jpg)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1989rickenbacker4003s5string/large/IMG_5414.jpg)
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4003 Turquoise (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-Rare-Turquoise-Color-/221753237776) -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/~CoAAOSweW5VLPnb/$_57.JPG)
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'76 4000 LH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-in-Mapleglo-LEFT-HANDED-single-pickup-4001-/371327853065) - $2,790 BIN -
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/76r4001bassmapleglo51315/large/IMG_0023.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/76r4001bassmapleglo51315/large/IMG_0048.JPG)
Ready for reversible conversion to 4001S...
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/76r4001bassmapleglo51315/large/IMG_0072.JPG)
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Non-Glueburst 1972 4001 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Shipping-1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Mapleglo-Used-w-Hardcase-/171792353036) - all the goodies - and the battle scars only make her more attractive IMHO.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/7EsAAOSwrklVWCC-/$_57.JPG)
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'68 4001 MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-bass-vintage-original-1968-Natural-finish-/281710105951) with a P rout under the surround - starting at $4.5K, $6K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/hXUAAOSwKrhVW1Hp/$_57.JPG)
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1998 S8 MID/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Rickenbacker-4003S8-8-String-Bass-Midnight-Blue-with-Case-Paperwork-/271887449809). Case queen w/hang tags. $4K BIN
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1690x967q90/909/IVC8z1.jpg)(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1267x967q90/633/fg3uAk.jpg)
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Woo, that 8 is NICE!
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MB with black trim is always a winner.
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Slightly overpriced Shadow (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-rare-1986-Rickenbacker-4003-SHADOW-/121668688632) from Canada - $5.5K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk1/z/XLkAAOSwqu9U519D/$_57.JPG)
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MB with black trim is always a winner.
Dave, I vividly remember back in the late 80's and through to the mid 90's that RIC couldn't sell their solid colour (White, Black, Red, M.Blue, MG) 4003S basses with black binding and black hardware on them. Stores that had ordered them for inventory ended up having them for years cause no one would buy them. I bet if JH put them back into production today he'd sell everyone they could make. Just goes to show how times and markets change.
TD
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That's true, some of them sat for years. especially the red with black trim.
I've mentioned once here that I passed on a 4003 MG with black trim that was $500 at Guitar Center about 15 years ago, well before used prices started to rise. Probably could have gotten it for less. I had the money, just didn't need another 4003. D'oh!
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'99 S/5 MapleGlo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Rickenbacker-4003-S-5-String-Bass-Guitar-Mapleglo-/251994466962). $4,195 BIN price - a bit unrealistic. Still, very pretty. TONS of hi-res pics on the eBay page.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFg3MDA=/z/xqgAAOSwKrhVfFxR/$_57.JPG)
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I really don't understand why a Guitar Center special Shadow is worth more than a Tuxedo or even a far better looking Blackstar. The stink of Guitar Center will forever keep me from paying a stupid amount for a Shadow.
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I really don't understand why a Guitar Center special Shadow is worth more than a Tuxedo or even a far better looking Blackstar. The stink of Guitar Center will forever keep me from paying a stupid amount for a Shadow.
"stink of guitar Center" LOL
It wouldn't be worth more to me either. Still, GC smelled better back then, and it was a limited edition.
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I really don't understand why a Guitar Center special Shadow is worth more than a Tuxedo or even a far better looking Blackstar. The stink of Guitar Center will forever keep me from paying a stupid amount for a Shadow.
Well, really the Shadow probably didn't cost much more back in 1986 than the SPCs (Blackstar, Tuxedo, and Redneck) did in 1987-1990, but they were much more scarce (supposedly 50 Shadows as opposed to 100-200 each of the SPCs). The collector value of the limited editions has increased (and decreased) over the years, and that has nothing to do with GC (or even RIC for that matter). While the Blackstar and the other SPCs are great basses, the Shadow was somehow even better. For those who desire "thin" necks (front to back), the Shadows were the thinnest Ricks ever made (according to measurements in a database over on the RRF). Personally, the one I had measured even thinner than my two 1972s which I thought were the ultimate in thinness. In addition to thin, my Shadow had the best action and the straightest neck of the couple dozen Ricks that have passed through these hands. Magnificent.
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Good to know about the neck dimensions.
But I'd way prefer to spend that kind of money on a Redneck.
As if.
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Yeah, I wish I had found a Redneck, too. Fortunately, there was a collector in Chicagoland who had all three and I was able to photograph them together for the book. Since the book was published (two years ago now!) I've sold off most of my collection. I still have the Tux, although it doesn't have it's White outer suit!
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l'm in the same boat. Now I only have my second Blackstar, which I gig with. The Tux in my icon is gone.
IMHO the Redneck is the best looking of the trio. That red with a hint of black finish is masterful.
I've only seen that one 5 or 8 string one that was on sale in Europe a few years ago. I guess they sell by appointment only and no appointments are available....
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It was an eight-string Redneck. They didn't make Redneck fivers. There were several Blackstar fivers, however, even a lefty that was held for a photo by a prominent lefty bassist:
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/paul-mccartneys-5-string-rickenbacker-bass.941310/
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... Shadow is worth more than a Tuxedo or even a far better looking Blackstar
Each to their own, I guess. Personally, I think the Shadow is hands-down the best looking Ric bass ever made. Every time I open the case I'm blown away. It's a good bass too, but many Rics are.
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Yep. Each to their own. ;)
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1979 light (almost red) Burgundy 4005 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4005-bass-1979-/371392701541) in the UK. GBP 6K BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTIw/z/dk4AAOSw3ydVsK1X/$_57.JPG)
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Wow! That's a rare one. I've seen several Burgundy 4005, but most are the deeper "standard" version of BG. That's a keeper! But for more than $9Gs U.S., and a late build, this one may be sitting on the block for a while.
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1980 4001S in WAL (glossy ATG) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-RICKENBACKER-4001-S-BASS-GUITAR-/231635996856). I don't recall ever seeing a 4001/4003S in Autumnglo or Walnut before. Too bad about the mods. Still a rare bass. $1,600 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/RcgAAOSwu4BVj0PV/$_57.JPG)
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Nov. '83 WAL/ATG 4008 reverse hairpin rods (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-8-String-Bass-Guitar-Brown-Red-MUST-SEE-/400971256940). Octave strings on top - reverse for Ric, standard for other 8-stringers. $0.99 starting bid, no reserve.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/0psAAOSwDNdVv96k/$_57.JPG)
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This string setup was standard on the 4008. The 4003S/8 that superseded the 4008 had the octave strings on the "other" side. The 4008 spanned the introduction of the 4003 model with its new truss-rod arrangement. Most had the "new" system, but not all had the split pickguard. The 4008 is much rarer than the 4003S/8. Lovely example!
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Beauty. Last minute bids are likely to get way up there on this one.
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Wow- I wouldn't mind going after that and flipping my 4003s8. It would scratch a pending to-do item off my list ;D (re: reversing the root/octave order)
This is certainly the week for unique 8ers (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221840480594?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)!
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This is certainly the week for unique 8ers (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221840480594?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)!
Whoa mama! That's nice. I had an original Cruisebass in that color.
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1992 2030GF Glenn Frey (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Rickenbacker-2030GF-Glenn-Frey-Signature-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Jetglo-/131604515104)! $1,699 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODA5WDgwMA==/z/XdoAAOSwLqFV-Eb1/$_57.JPG)
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Glenn Frey ... bass...? :o
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Glenn Frey ... bass...? :o
I guess it means "the guitar came out really nice so we made a bass version to go with the Glenn Frey guitar". Like the Les Paul bass, same principle.
Anyone else notice the tail lift? It seems that RIC can't make a bass without it.
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I guess it means "the guitar came out really nice so we made a bass version to go with the Glenn Frey guitar". Like the Les Paul bass, same principle.
Must be the reason. Both offshoots of the 230/2030 Hamburg models. Seller says "less than 100 made", I'd guess a lot fewer than 100.
Anyone else notice the tail lift? It seems that RIC can't make a bass without it.
Maybe it's a feature instead of a bug. Seriously though, I haven't seen enough 2000 series basses in person to know if it was common.
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I've heard mixed reports on the overall quality of those bridges, assuming that they are Schaller models. I read of one guy keeping a cache of broken ones in a drawer and occasionally making a full bridge from various parts.
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I've heard mixed reports on the overall quality of those bridges, assuming that they are Schaller models. I read of one guy keeping a cache of broken ones in a drawer and occasionally making a full bridge from various parts.
That is a Schaller roller bridge. Not everyone is a fan, but there's nothing about their construction that has caused problems in general. They have been around for several decades and have been used as OEM bridges by Gibson, Rick, Hamer and more.
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I've had a bunch over the years, including one that I've had since 1982, without a single issue.
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Some guy on Facebook was claiming they were made from pot metal and tended to break apart over time. I'm not sure if he was latently in favour of the original Rickenbacker bridge or something, one of those 'if it aint broke don't fix it ' types perhaps. The tail lift in the photo suggests something is wrong. 8)
Alright then, name your top ten Glenn Frey bass lines. :P
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Alright then, name your top ten Glenn Frey bass lines. :P
Only if you name your top ten Les Paul bass lines ;)
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Some guy on Facebook was claiming they were made from pot metal and tended to break apart over time. I'm not sure if he was latently in favour of the original Rickenbacker bridge or something, one of those 'if it aint broke don't fix it ' types perhaps. The tail lift in the photo suggests something is wrong. 8)
Alright then, name your top ten Glenn Frey bass lines. :P
Pot metal = derogatory name for die cast zinc.
The original Rickenbacker bridge is die cast zinc.
I wouldn't be surprised if the base of the Schaller is die cast zinc but the saddles are brass.
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Actually, the original material of the tailpiece that we associate with most Rick basses from 1962 to 1974 was chrome-plated cast aluminum. In 1974, it was redesigned a bit and made from cast zinc. It has had some minor redesigns over the years, but is still cast zinc and chrome plated. Don't know the composition of the Schaller tail/bridge parts.
It appears that the GF bass has the Schaller bridge, but I mis-identified it as the ABM bridge in the book. The Schaller was the standard bridge used on the earlier 2030 and 2050 basses. When the later design 2020 and 2060 were introduced in 1992, they switched to the ABM tail/bridge. RIC went back to the Schaller tail/bridge in 2007.
The Glenn Frey bass was introduced in 1992 before the 2020/2060. It most resembles the 2020 but for the special trim treatment, the earlier tail/bridge, and the designator, 2030. It's not clear exactly how many were made, but the plan for the Glenn Frey editions (guitar and bass, evidently) was to be 1000 total, but it appears that production was not reached. The bass was listed only through 1995, while the 230GF guitar went to about the year 2000. I doubt there were more than 100 GF basses made.
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I stand corrected about the RIC bridge. Still, it was originally die cast.
Schaller's website does say the saddles are brass. It doesn't mention the base construction. Regardless, I've never heard of Schaller roller bridges breaking. Nor RIC bridges, for that matter, although there was a tail lift problem. Only breakage I've heard of are reports of exploding 'R' tailpieces on certain guitars.
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4001v63 in Midnight Blue (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/262071236650). Clueless seller. I don't think he knows what he has there. $2,450 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTUzWDEwODA=/z/UuEAAOSwsB9WCubd/$_57.JPG)
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Clueless seller. I don't think the seller knows what he has there. $2,450 BIN
A late Nineties standard production v63 in a standard production color. Not that common, but not that rare either. Priced fairly, IMO.
Definitely cool though.
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A late Nineties standard production v63 in a standard production color. Not that common, but not that rare either. Priced fairly, IMO.
Actually, no. The V63 was limited in color selection to Fireglo and Mapleglo (with a few Jetglos thrown in) until the final year or three. In 2000-2001, a handful of V63 appeared in Sea Green. I've seen just a couple of V63s in Turquoise (had one for a while), and there may have been less than 10 that got Midnight Blue. Looks like all the TUR and MID V63s were made in 2002. No way to find exact numbers, just keeping an eye on what's out there.
Looks like a fair price for a rare model/color combination.
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I agree that it's a fair price. Beautiful bass. Too bad they had gone to the short headstock by then.
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I said he doesn't know what he has there not because of the price but because he didn't list it as a v63, no mention of anything special in the auction headline or description. I assume he thinks he has a run-of-the-mill Ric bass.
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You're right, Ilan, he doesn't know. I'm surprised it hasn't sold already.
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Yeah, I didn't read the auction title, just looked at the pictures.
I'm probably still holding a grudge because when RIC announced the last order date for the V63 in I think December of 2000 I was ready to order one in either TUR or MID, but then I read on some dang internet forum a post by someone with connections at RIC that the V63 was being discontinued to be replaced by something much better. Needless to say I held off on ordering and the C64 which replaced it had the reversed headstock and only available in FG and MG, and had no appeal to me at all.
I eventually sold both my 4003S's to buy a '86 V63 in dark Fire-glo.
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Jetglo transitional '73 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Vintage-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Jetglo-100-Original-4003-/161894642760), checkerboard, toaster and narrow inlays (yes I like those), Grovers, plexi TRC. All my preferences in one bass. All it needs is a period-correct handrest.
$2,800 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Jb0AAOSwnipWUUS3/s-l1600.jpg)
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Crazy pretty fretboard on this Snowglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4003-SNOW-GLO-WHITE-BASS-LIMITED-EDITION-2013-MINT-/291621009474)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PRYAAOSweuxWT1vv/s-l1600.jpg)
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Jetglo transitional '73 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Vintage-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Jetglo-100-Original-4003-/161894642760), checkerboard, toaster and narrow inlays (yes I like those), Grovers, plexi TRC. All my preferences in one bass. All it needs is a period-correct handrest.
$2,800 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Jb0AAOSwnipWUUS3/s-l1600.jpg)
Tailpiece/bridge is not exactly period correct and probably a replacement. Beautiful instrument nonetheless.
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I was wondering if the thread had curled up it's toes... :mrgreen:
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Jetglo sold. That was quick
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Tailpiece/bridge is not exactly period correct and probably a replacement.
How so?
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All it needs is a period-correct handrest. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Vintage-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Jetglo-100-Original-4003-/161894642760)
I may have a couple laying around here, somewhere, possibly.
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The shallow type? They are getting rare.
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How so?
According to my information (which could be wrong - just sayin') the new cast zinc, five-screw, no gap in center "tooth" tailpiece started to appear in 1974. But the date information is soft, and a '73 production bass could retain a '73 serial and not gone out the door until '74 with the new tailpiece.
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I don't think I ever saw a transition '73 (narrow inlays, toaster) with gap-tooth tailpiece. Including mine.
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I don't think I ever saw a transition '73 (narrow inlays, toaster) with gap-tooth tailpiece. Including mine.
This is correct. My March '73 4001 has a gap tooth tailpiece, the July '73 already had the newer version, so my guess is the change for the tailpiece took place in late Spring of '73.
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The shallow type?
Yes.
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This is correct. My March '73 4001 has a gap tooth tailpiece, the July '73 already had the newer version, so my guess is the change for the tailpiece took place in late Spring of '73.
Note to self: ammend future editions of the book! :o
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Note to self: ammend future editions of the book! :o
That's why publishers created the term 2nd Edition. 8)
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... and "updated to include..." ;)
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1999 4003S/8 Clownburst (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-shipping-USED-Rickenbacker-1999-4003S-8-FG-Electric-Guitar-/161925074322), $4,173 BIN
(http://www.digimart.net/images/50/DS02940709.jpg?1443928099000)(http://www.digimart.net/images/50/DS02940709_1.jpg?1443928099000)
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I'd never buy anything with that finish.
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Back then, John Hall would always respond that "Fireglo is difficult to capture on camera" and that in real life it looked nicer. And then they probably hired another guy for the spray booth and Fireglo was restored to non-clownburst.
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The pink on some of those - like the back on this one - always struck me as resembling raw meat...
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The pink on some of those - like the back on this one - always struck me as resembling raw meat...
I always referred to them as Pinkglo, probably my least favourite RIC finish.
TD
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This one looks like it's from Japan - they stopped producing them a few years later though they still sent a few to Japan, I remember seeing a beautiful Jetglo in Kyoto around 2003 or so. Not that there is anything particularly special about this one, in 1999 I think they were still in regular production.
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Back then, John Hall would always respond that "Fireglo is difficult to capture on camera" and that in real life it looked nicer.
Haha riiight...
That 'burst is pretty bad.
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The pink on some of those - like the back on this one - always struck me as resembling raw meat...
You know, it does. Bloody Meatglo!
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4004Cii in magnificent Montezuma Brown over flamed maple (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-Rickenbacker-4004-Cii-Cheyenne-Montezuma-Brown-Bass-Guitar-4001-4003-/161970859684). IMHO this is one of the most striking finishes for a 4004.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee115/cwh1/Feb%206/DSC00199.jpg)
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think this guy took enough photos? christ on a crutch... :o
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Obviously got shares in photoberkit... :mrgreen:
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Price is reasonable. I still wonder if choosing the name Montezuma Brown for the color of the year was meant as a joke.
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The local guy who owned The Music Connection and now sells and repairs Rics exclusively says the selection of that color was absolutely a sick joke.
Apparently John Hall visited Mexico and got a case of Montezuma's Revenge and when he came back Montezuma Brown became the color of the year.
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I still wonder if choosing the name Montezuma Brown for the color of the year was meant as a joke.
I was thinking the same thing!
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The local guy who owned The Music Connection and now sells and repairs Rics exclusively says the selection of that color was absolutely a sick joke.
Apparently John Hall visited Mexico and got a case of Montezuma's Revenge and when he came back Montezuma Brown became the color of the year.
Here's a story that will haunt me forever, every time I will see this finish.
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Maybe he can use some of the proceeds to buy a sodding lawn rake? I've seen that lawn in the back of a fair few Rickenbacker sales.
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A very clean Sept. '86 Shadow (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1986-Rickenbacker-4003-SHADOW-BASS-w-CHECKERBOARD-BINDING/151988263817) at Olivia's. # ZI 2552. So clean it looks NOS. $3,790 BIN.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/86r4003shadowbass21816/large/_MG_00011.JPG)
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Gorgeous!
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This could be a quite rare B Series bass (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-shipping-USED-Rickenbacker-81-4001S-MOD-Bass-Guitar-/161986343042). 1981 4003SB?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nsIAAOSwWTRWy67p/s-l1600.jpg)
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More accurately, a 4001SB or an S with a Toaster-top pickup installed. When Rickenbacker first came up with the idea of Beatle lookalikes, they made the bass by simply taking off-the-shelf 4001S out of inventory and placing a Toaster-top pickup in the standard 1" position. When the 4001S were gone, they started making the 4003S, and with the Toaster, the 4003SB. Details on pp. 72-73 in the book. Note that this one on eBay has a set neck with the shedua strip, a positive identifier of production 4001S (and 4000) of the time.
When John Hall bought the company from his father, he stopped the B series lookalikes and replaced them with the more accurate V series starting in 1984.
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Not Ebay, but CL. I am the seller.
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5465733088.html
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Beautiful... I love Burgs.
The handrest looks way too high, you could check this (http://www.rickenbacker.com/pdfs/bpickups.pdf) and assemble it correctly. The "ears" go under the springs. It will be significantly easier to play the bass this way.
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Gotcha. I noticed something was amiss there and talked about it with the guy who just bought it.
I'll send him the link! Thanks.
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Rare beauty: '77 4000FL (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-RICKENBACKER-USA-4000-FL-FRETLESS-BASS-ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-/182038139845). $2.5K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/X0EAAOSwDuJW0lDL/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's only the second fretless 4000 that I've ever seen. The other is Gary Clauson's '77 4000FL in Burgundy.
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That rare? Tempting.
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The only fretless bass models to ever appear on the official Rickenbacker price sheets have been the 4001FL and the 4003FL. But back in the day when you could custom order some features (they don't do that anymore), you could get certain pickups, checker binding, special finishes, and trim items. Making a fretless bass is quite simple, just slap on a fretless fingerboard and make it fit. While working up the book, I found folks with fretless 4000, 4001S, 4002, 4003S, and 3001, none of which were listed as available. So how rare are they? No way to tell, but if this is only the second 4000 fretless that I've seen, there can't have been very many.
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Go for it, Ilan.
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I most certainly wood (sic) if circumstances were different... 8) and beautiful...
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2004 JG/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Shipping-Used-Rickenbacker-4003-2004-Electric-Bass-/152010617569)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/czIAAOSwP~tW4ZQx/s-l500.jpg)
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Niiiice! Sure that's a 2004? I thought 2002 was the last year for black hardware/trim.
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Niiiice! Sure that's a 2004? I thought 2002 was the last year for black hardware/trim.
Looks like mine - they made a special run of what they called 4003BTJG (though it has both BH & BT) for the Japanese market in 2004 - looks like this seller is in Japan so it makes sense. Mine also has silver lettering on the truss rod cover - not sure if that was standard. I got mine from phlemmy back on the RickResource Forum back around 2009-10.
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Did anyone buy the fretless...?
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Beautiful '72 set-neck 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Rickenbacker-4000-Bass-/131750749305). $2.5K BIN
Gap-tooth aluminum tailpiece. But something is definitely wrong with the truss rod nuts.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/unwAAOSwu1VW5Hv2/s-l1600.jpg)
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yikes! that is exactly like the one i had long ago . i think i paid 200 bucks for it. :o :sad: its even located in my home state.
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Looks like mine - they made a special run of what they called 4003BTJG (though it has both BH & BT) for the Japanese market in 2004 - looks like this seller is in Japan so it makes sense. Mine also has silver lettering on the truss rod cover - not sure if that was standard. I got mine from phlemmy back on the RickResource Forum back around 2009-10.
Huh. News to me. The silver (chrome?) letter black TRC is a stock item that goes on the 4004L Laredo. Any idea how many were in that run for Japan?
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Huh. News to me. The silver (chrome?) letter black TRC is a stock item that goes on the 4004L Laredo. Any idea how many were in that run for Japan?
I don't know how many they made. The only reference I have ever seen was on Björn Eriksson's Ric page, which makes reference to a Japanese magazine article about the 4003VPCBJG and 4003VPCBFG of which there were 24 each, but it is unclear if the 4003JGBT was also limited to that number.
http://www.rickbeat.com/modelslibrary/4003vpcb/4003vpcb.htm (http://www.rickbeat.com/modelslibrary/4003vpcb/4003vpcb.htm)
This is the first time I have seen another one!
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I had a similar bass, a fretless, for a short while. I think it was a '99 or a 2000 as I recall:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/FretlessJetglo_zps1rxgy2ot.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/FretlessJetglo_zps1rxgy2ot.jpg.html)
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I'm speechless.
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(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/FretlessJetglo_zps1rxgy2ot.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/FretlessJetglo_zps1rxgy2ot.jpg.html)
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Gotta have one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: My wife is gonna kill me for sure!
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Seriously pining for the fjords... such a beautiful bass...
Paul... had, and not have... presume fretless is just not your thing...?
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I could get by with a fretless, but had no need for it. I bought it when I was gathering up several "different" Ricks that came up for sale, but kept it only for about a year. I'm not a real musician, so my feelings on fretless or fretted don't really count. I've been more of a collector, and by way of osmosis, kind of an authority. All of my knowledge of Rick basses is translated into the book, but there is still more to learn.
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Understood... sometimes you just fall into stuff, as you say, by osmosis... Fretless, for me, started in the late 60's, so for me it's something special...
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One of those Chris Squire Glueglo basses on Kijiji:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-guitar/edmonton/rickenbacker-bass-1of-6-painted-by-paulkarslake-for-chris-squire/1121138612 (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-guitar/edmonton/rickenbacker-bass-1of-6-painted-by-paulkarslake-for-chris-squire/1121138612)
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One-off FIVE STRING mint C64 (4001C64/5) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001C64-5-MINT-W-BT-Custom-One-Off-/252348942602) from Ric Outlet. Starting bid $3,699.
The headstock is unlike S5's - it's an upside-down version of Jeff Rath's mod. RIC is adopting Jeff Rath's solution to converting a 4- to 5-string.
With the added pull of the 5th string, and a neck pickup rout at the half-inch location, this could be risky.
The righty TRC and narrow pickguard are also unlike other C64's.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rMwAAOSwgApXCAVt/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Kx4AAOSw0QFXCAVu/s-l1600.jpg)
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i guess i should have posted my thread here first. phuch it.
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Fire Alarm Red (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-FAR-Fire-Alarm-Red-Limited-35-EVER-MADE-SUPER-RARE/182094080267) w/checkerboard binding and maple fretboard -
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bA8AAOSwJMhXD972/s-l1600.jpg)
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IIRC those were made exclusively for a German distributer?
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Yep.
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I do find it slightly ironic that Rickenbacker will do anything from reintroducing chequerboard binding through to building an all-out RM1999 reissue for the Japanese market, and create special editions for European distributers (including at least one that sells Rickenfakers on the side), but won't sell any of this stuff to their loyal US fanbase. :o I've seen the argument that there isn't the demand in the US, but surely Musicians Friend et al could drum up pre-sales interest in something like the red 4003 above?
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I do find it slightly ironic that Rickenbacker will do anything from reintroducing chequerboard binding through to building an all-out RM1999 reissue for the Japanese market, and create special editions for European distributers (including at least one that sells Rickenfakers on the side), but won't sell any of this stuff to their loyal US fanbase. :o I've seen the argument that there isn't the demand in the US, but surely Musicians Friend et al could drum up pre-sales interest in something like the red 4003 above?
I think I've said this before here, so forgive me for repetition: RIC will make basses (or guitars) with special features, colors, equipment for ANY distributor (not any individual) with a certain minimum order. Now if you can convince MF (good luck with that) to order 50 or so of the SAME Rick bass the way you want it, with the SAME color and SAME features and SAME equipment, RIC will make 'em for MF. Or Wildwood. Or Northcoast. Or Pick of the Ricks. That's what is happening with these special orders from Japan and Germany - and Guitar Center with their 4001S GC (or whatever they called it) a couple of years back. But any successful dealer/distributor that is going to shell out 50 grand or so for this special order is bound to want a substantial part of the order paid in advance. So, if you (and 50 or so others) got the bucks for a special order of 50 basses with checker binding, Toaster pickups in the ½" position, and deep burgundy ("Eggplantglo"), get organized and talk to your dealer and get it done.
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Add crushed pearl inlays and you're on! :mrgreen:
I am a tad surprised that there are enough interested parties in either Japan or Germany that a big distributer can commission these special editions and, conversely, no distributer in the US can drum up the same support. This seems especially true in the current climate of Kickstarter campaigns, where people are quite happy to invest money in relatively flaky projects that may never pay off. Surely with enough publicity Musician's Friend could get 50 backers into some sort of 'dead on '71' 4001 reissue?
My other thought is simply does the full shipment of special instruments only go to one retailer? Fender came up with some seafoam active PJ basses that were Guitar Centre exclusive in North America, but showed up all over the place here. I know because a small local retailer still has one on the hanger a few years later. For further example, I've seen it mentioned that the relatively small retailer 'Tip Top Musik' in Stockholm was selling special edition Ricks. I presume that these were part of a bigger North Europe consignment at some stage, though I could be wrong.
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There may be too many dealers in the US for one to take a chance, or their cash position may not allow a big prepaid order. Most of the big retailers sell more Gibsons and Fenders in that price range.
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I think that the special order batches all go to a distributor who has a number of stores that he distributes to. GC or MF (the same overall company, I believe) would be a good example here in the US. Maybe Sam Ash. But like I said, GC did get a special run from RIC. I don't know what the minimum would be for RIC. I've read that the Fire Alarm Red 4003 with the maple fingerboard and checker binding was 30, but don't know that for sure. Conceivably, a big dealer like Wildwood or POR could do something like that, but they would have to be convinced ($$$) that they could find buyers for 30 or 50 of the same thing.
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I think that the special order batches all go to a distributor who has a number of stores that he distributes to. GC or MF (the same overall company, I believe) would be a good example here in the US. Maybe Sam Ash. But like I said, GC did get a special run from RIC. I don't know what the minimum would be for RIC. I've read that the Fire Alarm Red 4003 with the maple fingerboard and checker binding was 30, but don't know that for sure. Conceivably, a big dealer like Wildwood or POR could do something like that, but they would have to be convinced ($$$) that they could find buyers for 30 or 50 of the same thing.
Right. A dealer like Wildwood might be able to, but I'm guessing they would rather sell custom shop Gibsons and Fenders in that price range and above.
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The FAR bass sold for £1,370 ($1,970).
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The FAR bass sold for £1,370 ($1,970).
Surprisingly low.
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1967 4005 Blueboy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-RICKENBACKER-BLUEBOY-4005-BASS-RARE-AND-BEAUTIFUL-EXAMPLE-/141970196038), Dale Fortune refin. $6,895 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Io8AAOSwtPZXHN6M/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AAQAAOSwInVXHN6X/s-l1600.jpg)
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Surprisingly low.
And now relisted for £2,100 ($3,044).
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And now relisted for £2,100 ($3,044).
That's more like it, but now I'm suspicious of the seller.
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Is that the same bass? From their description they fitted a bezel (but kept the cover on for the photos), bought some Rick-approved polish and a torque wrench, then decided to sell up.
One of their other items for sale is a Vauxhall. :o
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'71 Azureglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-1968-1969-1970-1972-1973-4003-vintage-rare-guitar-/201570337349). My favorite Ric color.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/o9MAAOSwiYFXIXBL/s-l500.jpg)
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It is a great color, IMHO a nicer blue than Midnight Blue.
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Azureglo started as a VW color, there's the story of a VW Microbus that was parked across the street in Santa Ana and someone at the factory liked the color. Midnight Blue started just as a metallic version of AZG, same hue. But then it changed a lot over the years.
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It sure has. The older Midnight Blue was great, I don't like the version they've used in recent years as much.
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Mid Blue has evolved into a purple-ish blue, then in 2004-5 there was the whole color bleed into the binding saga (and guitars still covered by the one-year warranty were refinished by the factory), after which RIC went back to the original formula - metallic version of the old VW blue. The metallic particles also got smaller IIRC and the effect was less pronounced. But not long after that, Mid Blue started to shift again slowly towards purple.
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AzureGlo makes me drool. Great color. I don't mind the more purple midnight blue, but Azure is awesome. I know it's VW-based, but I like to think of it as Ford corporate blue. :mrgreen:
(http://www.nzmustang.com/wal/P1010165s.JPG)
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I saw a VW Polo today that looked to be the same shade of blue as the Azureglo 4001 pictured in the back of Paul's book, with the toaster pickup. I think the colour is VW's 'Mayan blue', and all the images online look a bit too bright.
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This is how I remember old VW blue.
EDIT: this is probably VW's L390 Gulf Blue.
(http://www.bustopia.com/Images/vw-single-cab-pickup01.jpg)
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Hmm. No Azureglo on the back of my book - that's Russ Tubman's custom painted "Aquabass" and not a stock color.
I believe the original Azureglo was based on either Volkswagen's Sea Blue (L360) or Gulf Blue (L390). At least that's what I've been able to figure. Might not be right.
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On my monitor AZG looks closer to L633.
http://www.bustopia.com/vw-bug-paint-samples.html
(http://www.bustopia.com/Images/vw-bug-1967-26.jpg)
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Hmm. No Azureglo on the back of my book - that's Russ Tubman's custom painted "Aquabass" and not a stock color.
Who's Russ Tubman? :mrgreen: Is he in the bathroom business? ;D
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Who's Russ Tubman? :mrgreen: Is he in the bathroom business? ;D
His wife is going to be on the $20 bill. :mrgreen:
On my monitor AZG looks closer to L633.
On mine it looks closer to L360.
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Hmm. No Azureglo on the back of my book - that's Russ Tubman's custom painted "Aquabass" and not a stock color.
Apologies Paul. There is a 4001 shown on the technical pages right at the back ( page 140) with a toaster in the neck position and chequerboard binding. There isn't a shot of the complete bass, just closeups showing the screws you need to adjust pickup height and things. It looks a lot like the one that ilan posted on the 28th of April.
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Yeah, "blue" looks better, but I can't tell for sure. BTW, that should be "Russ Rubman" - don't know what corner in the little gray cells came up with "Tubman." Sorry. :o
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Apologies Paul. There is a 4001 shown on the technical pages right at the back ( page 140) with a toaster in the neck position and chequerboard binding. There isn't a shot of the complete bass, just closeups showing the screws you need to adjust pickup height and things. It looks a lot like the one that ilan posted on the 28th of April.
Yeah, that's my other '72 refinished in a brighter blue than typical Azureglo, so we can't really use that as a color reference. That was a basket case restoration done by Larry Davis with my choice of a brighter blue.
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That Boyerglo is a cool color.
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Yeah, that's my other '72 refinished in a brighter blue than typical Azureglo, so we can't really use that as a color reference. That was a basket case restoration done by Larry Davis with my choice of a brighter blue.
Thanks Paul! It looks amazing in the book!
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Here's what it looks like in toto:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/Azure4001web.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/Small%20basses/Azure4001web.jpg.html)
and closeup:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h407/PaulBoyer/Basses/Small%20basses/Azureweb.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/PaulBoyer/media/Basses/Small%20basses/Azureweb.jpg.html)
. . . and, ooh, it is for sale.
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What a looker.
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That is a pretty bass, what page is that on? It looks familiar. Never mind I found it on page 140, not too difficult to look up a few posts.
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8-string fretless (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-8-string-fretless-Bass-/131822660442). Obviously a modded S/8, changed fretboard, but still nice. Starting bid $650...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hP0AAOSwU1FXQLnH/s-l500.jpg)
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I am pretty certain I have played that bass many years ago. From what I can make out from the photos and the answer to a posed question, this is the same bass. The refin had to have been done within 10 years or so as the bass was not in that color when I saw it. The added fingerboard overhangs the neck, it is wider by around 1/8" on each side with fillets added to smooth out and round over the back of the neck. It looked a bit like an aircraft carrier to me.
Whoever may be interested in this bass should proceed with extreme caution. As sort of noted in the ad, the neck does have issues.
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Another thing regarding that 8er, that refin is either a bad job or is relic'd as it looks like 3 or 4 decades (or more) worth of wear.
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A "player grade" Tux on the 'bay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/q-UAAOSwVcFXO2-F/$_57.JPG)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-Vintage-1976-White-Tuxedo-Yellowed-Players-Grade-/162074304109?hash=item25bc619e6d:g:q-UAAOSwVcFXO2-F (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-Guitar-Vintage-1976-White-Tuxedo-Yellowed-Players-Grade-/162074304109?hash=item25bc619e6d:g:q-UAAOSwVcFXO2-F)
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Not a Tux. The 4003SPC "Tuxedo" had white enameled maple fretboard with microdots, and being an "S" model did not have neck or body binding. This one is a run-of-the-mill white 4001 that has yellowed a lot. Black binding, guard and nameplate were standard for white 4001's of the period.
This '76 could use a refin, IMHO.
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That's definitely not a Tuxedo. Not even close. They were 1987 only and had a white painted fretboard with tiny dot inlays.
This is just a grungy 4001 with black trim, and worse yet, it has the dreaded Seymour Duncan bridge pickup.
EDIT: Ilan beat me to it!
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Tuxedo - Please refer to my icon photo.
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Yellowed white Rics are always a dilemma. White Fenders age beautifully. But white Rics... not so much.
@Happy Face - please refer to my avatar photo.
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1970 4005 Light Show (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Rickenbacker-4005LS-Lightshow-Prototype-Bass-the-earliest-one-produced-/162108143886). $85,000 BIN.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/1_3.jpg)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/21_2.jpg)
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Nice price! :mrgreen:
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Be fair, he's open to offers.
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Pretty '74 MG 4005 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Shipping-Used-Rickenbacker-4005-Mapleglo-1974-Electric-Bass-/162110723672) - button-tops and narrow inlays. $7,428 BIN
(http://img.digimart.net/prdimg/m/99/b198e3759dec1f0dd370964d7cc676ebf0b358.jpg)
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Two very rare 4005's: '66 WB (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Rickenbacker-4005-Bass-/331894380089) (double bound. $15K BIN) and '79 in Burgundyglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Rickenbacker-4005-Bass-ultra-rare-example-that-is-Near-Mint-/172256605535) ($12.5K BIN).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/duEAAOSwEjFXcvm3/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/11389j.jpg)
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'04 Blueboy (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-2004-Rickenbacker-4003-Bass-/302000118187)... love this color. $1,900 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MZcAAOSwdsFXTIr7/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's a great price on that Blueboy, and it hasn't greened like some of them.
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'91 2050 El Dorado (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Rickenbacker-El-Dorado-2050-Jetglo-Black-Bass-Guitar-4001-4003-/152160091149) - $1.6K BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xYMAAOSwEjFXf~SK/s-l1600.jpg)
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Looks like the Blue Boy didn't sell.
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When I was putting the book together, photos of the 2050 were some of the most difficult to find - only one is in the book. The entire 2000 series didn't sell well, apparently, but 2020s, 2030s, and 2060s were easier to find.
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The 2050 is the one I've never seen in person, not that I've seen many of the others over the years. The whole series couldn't have sold well. Only one I ever saw and played new was a 220 guitar.
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Did Geddy Lee play one for a while...?
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Don't think so. He had a 3001 which is the precursor of the 2000 series; same shape, different electronics. Details in The Book!
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Lefty Tuxedo.
Not mine. :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/iamthebassman/sanbidvpsykjwsopkgmp_zpsadiwzglm.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/iamthebassman/media/sanbidvpsykjwsopkgmp_zpsadiwzglm.jpg.html)
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... Details in The Book!
Er... still on the wants list, Paul... :o
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The Book!
My eyes!!!
Good thing the printing in the book is high quality. 8)
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Lefty Tuxedo.
Not mine. :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/iamthebassman/sanbidvpsykjwsopkgmp_zpsadiwzglm.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/iamthebassman/media/sanbidvpsykjwsopkgmp_zpsadiwzglm.jpg.html)
Where did you find it?
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Not mine. :(
Why not? ;)
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S/8 in Japan (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003s-8-Electric-Bass-Free-Shipping-8-string-/222186167282). Horrendous Clownglo but the seller says excellent playability and functioning truss rods. $4,298 BIN incl. pickguard sticker.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FIIAAOSwzLlXhx1y/s-l500.jpg)
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I love my horrendous clownglo! :P
(https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12510495_10206747750550887_31156715614282930_n.jpg?oh=5c78d8a4542d580a90339c9f12ddb3f4&oe=57F1D9FF)
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:mrgreen:
Is that pose called the Horrendous Clownglo Salute?
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'96?
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'93
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"Its a legend and I hate to see her go."
And you won't have to at that price! :rolleyes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Electric-Bass-Guitar-WHITE-OHSC-/322195625877? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Vintage-Rickenbacker-4001-Electric-Bass-Guitar-WHITE-OHSC-/322195625877?)
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If I only had the foresight to buy up all those 70s yellowed white Rics that were selling for $500-$600 in the mid to late 90s.
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If I only had the foresight to buy up all those 70s yellowed white Rics that were selling for $500-$600 in the mid to late 90s.
The collector's prayer. God, give me ten thousand dollars and send me back to 1965 for two weeks.
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Redneck S/8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-1988-Rickenbacker-4003-S-8-string-Bass-REDNECK-/131891918135)! $5,590 BIN. Looks almost NOS.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/88r4003s8redneck72816/large/_MG_00021.JPG)
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Redneck S/8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-1988-Rickenbacker-4003-S-8-string-Bass-REDNECK-/131891918135)! $5,590 BIN. Looks almost NOS.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/88r4003s8redneck72816/large/_MG_00021.JPG)
Whoa! Talk about a cool, rare bass (not that I like the color, but still...). I'd offer them $4995. :mrgreen:
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Whoa! Talk about a cool, rare bass (not that I like the color, but still...). I'd offer them $4995. :mrgreen:
Olivia's listings on Reverb (including this one) have a Make Offer button. Go for it! :mrgreen:
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Here is an interesting bass. Red 4003 with black binding, but white pickguard and TRC and chrome hardware (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RICKENBACKER-4001-BASS-GUITAR-AND-CASE-IN-RED-/252488332151).
I have no idea if that is how it left the factory. With RIC, never say never. Could be an experimental bass - they toy with trim combinations from time to time. Or a previous owner might have swapped all the hardware for chrome. The TRC says MODEL 4001 so I'd guess not the original part, and the seller says that the guard is repro. Either way, IMHO it looks way nicer than the more common Red/BT.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GnkAAOSwZVlXo3cR/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WKQAAOSwqfNXo3cr/s-l1600.jpg)
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Didn't we see another one of those within the past couple of years?
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Pretty sure that would have been a user swap out. You could order Red with the reverse trim option, and I've seen a couple that way. The revers trim option on Red would have white binding on body and neck, white pickguard and TRC and chrome hardware. This mix probably would not have been done at the factory, but as was mentioned, you can't rule out anything.
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Pretty sure that would have been a user swap out
If he swapped out all the hardware, then I'm guessing there is a very attractive blacked-out Jetglo/BT with white binding (almost-Shadow) somewhere. And I'd really like to see it.
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May '73 white refin (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-CHECKERBOARD-BINDING-refinished-WHITE-/131903954393). $2,390 BIN
I'm in love. Pricey for a refin+refret, but what an awesome looking Ric.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/73r4001whiterefin8816/large/_MG_0001.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/73r4001whiterefin8816/large/_MG_0015.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/73r4001whiterefin8816/large/_MG_0016.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/73r4001whiterefin8816/large/_MG_0027.JPG)(http://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/73r4001whiterefin8816/large/_MG_0052.JPG)
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Just saw this one earlier today on a rare visit to TB.
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/rare-2009-rickenbacker-4003-snoglo-with-checkerboard-bindng.1233841/ (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/rare-2009-rickenbacker-4003-snoglo-with-checkerboard-bindng.1233841/)
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/8zxoz0l-jpg.908586/)
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Both of those are beautiful. The one at Olivia's may be a bit high, their listings usually are, but they always list the same items at their shop on Reverb with a Make Offer button. Probably due to the lower fees there.
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That's a great tip.
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'87 Red 4003S/5 Fretless (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Rickenbacker-4003S-5-Fretless-5-String-Brilliant-Chroma-Red-SUPER-RARE/282141685199)! How rare is that. Special order. $5.8K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tRoAAOSw6n5Xtj01/s-l1600.jpg)
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He's optimistic!
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Yes, optimistic considering he's have to find someone who would 1. Want a Rickenbacker five-string with its rather tight string spacing; 2. Want a fretless five-string; 3; Want that color combo; 4. Want to spend that much for a rarity. I think the seller may have to settle for less to make the sale.
As a documenter of the subject, it (and a Midnight Blue one) it is of extreme interest. The seller was kind enough to send photos for possible inclusion in a second edition of the book (no, not scheduled or even requested).
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During the late 80's Ric dealers couldn't give that colour combination away. You've really gotta love it to spend that kind of money on one. Personally I still find nothing attractive about it.
TD
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During the late 80's Ric dealers couldn't give that colour combination away. You've really gotta love it to spend that kind of money on one. Personally I still find nothing attractive about it.
TD
Same here. Not attractive to me.
Friend of mine bought a red/BT 360 in the early 90s for half the usual street price b/c it had been hanging on the wall at the dealer's for something like four years.
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I heard/read a rumor that the Red/BT scheme was inspired by some of the automobile finishes of the time. Remember the Pontiac Fiero? Bright red with no chrome but black trim and accents. The BT option came about in the mid '80s, and some colors came standard with black trim and hardware: Midnight Blue, Red, White, Silver, and even Mapleglo (from '86 to '92). BT was also available with the "reverse trim" option for the other colors up to 2002, although I've seen only one Fireglo with BT, and no Turquoise or Sea Green with BT (yech!).
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My older son had a red/BT Fiero. Fortunately it wasn't one of the ones that caught on fire.
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I've seen it referred to as Ferrari red.
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Officially, RIC calls is "Red" (RED), so all modifiers such as Ferrari, Mandarin, Brilliant, or Fire Engine are given by others who think "Red" isn't descriptive enough. "Red" is a solid color, not a metallic, not a translucent.
Other RIC "reds" include Fireglo (FG) which is a burst of translucent red; Burgundy (also listed as Burgundyglo) (BG) which is an overall translucent red wine color that varied from bright to very dark ("Eggplantglo"); Ruby (RBY) which was at first a bright translucent red over silver for a "candy-apple red" appearance, and later was a single-stage metallic dark red; Amber Fireglo (AFG) was a Color of the Year for 2006 and was an artificially aged Fireglo by use of an ambered clear coat; Dark Cherry Metallic (DCM) was a special deep maroon metallic made for the 75th Anniversary specials made in 2006-07; and Trans Red, a nearly transparent deep red for the 4004Cii Cheyenne II.
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Wasn't the 2014 limited-run bright red w/checkerboard and maple neck designated Fire Alarm Red?
(http://www.rickresource.com/register/user_images/39817/6.jpg)
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1964 1999RM (https://reverb.com/item/2871386-rickenbacker-4001-1964-fireglo) in Paris, France - $5,746 on Reverb, starting at $4,481 on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1964-Fireglo-4001-Rickenbacker-missing-original-horseshoe-pickup-/322248539187). Replacement horseshoe pickup. Typical forward-tilting headstock. Blurry pics are a warning sign.
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--2m9eHzMO--/a_exif/v1472774339/heq67y4xvuft3bf9km7k.jpg)
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--BV8Sr79b--/a_exif/v1472774364/ecozfbpys0myyxlnuf0p.jpg)
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--d-3fO8Kr--/a_exif/v1472774324/u7ifcht49luroodwnz8o.jpg)
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If he sells it, at least he can afford a better camera!
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Wasn't the 2014 limited-run bright red w/checkerboard and maple neck designated Fire Alarm Red?
(http://www.rickresource.com/register/user_images/39817/6.jpg)
Ahh, yes! A very limited edition that came out a couple of years after the book. I've never seen one in the wood (so to speak), but I sure like it! It appears to be a brighter red than Red!
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What about the '64, Paul? Does anything look suspicious? Because if it's real, even with non-original horseshoe pickup, $5.7K is a steal, isn't it?
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I don't know because the photos are so poor.
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Beautiful '73 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-bass-1973-/272366833340) FG
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UtcAAOSwFdtXztHo/s-l1600.jpg)
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Now here is a funny thing about that '73 4000. I remembered seeing it somewhere in the past. And then I found it. It was sold by Swami at the now-gone Bass Palace, in Jan 2012, when it had a black overspray. I remembered the exact same crack in the pickguard. I compared the pictures for the one definite birth mark - fretboard grain. Well, as far as I can tell it's the same bass. I guess someone managed to get the black paint off the Fireglo. Also there's a mark under the MADE in the TRC - same on both pics. And the off-center cut on the E bridge saddle... it's that bass.
I entered a bid... wish me luck.
(http://thebasspalace.com/images/40b.JPG)
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Great looking bass. Good luck!
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Another 4000 - '74 Burgundyglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-V-1973-4000-/262613738735)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nDIAAOSwGtRX0DiE/s-l1600.jpg)
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Good luck!
The Bass Palace site is still up and the show schedule is current. Did the Swami sell it?
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Now here is a funny thing about that '73 4000. I remembered seeing it somewhere in the past. And then I found it. It was sold by Swami at the now-gone Bass Palace, in Jan 2012, when it had a black overspray. I remembered the exact same crack in the pickguard. I compared the pictures for the one definite birth mark - fretboard grain. Well, as far as I can tell it's the same bass. I guess someone managed to get the black paint off the Fireglo. Also there's a mark under the MADE in the TRC - same on both pics. And the off-center cut on the E bridge saddle... it's that bass.
I entered a bid... wish me luck.
If it is indeed the same bassI think a question to the seller would be "Has it ever been refinished?" The wear on the back doesn't look natural to me.
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1993
2050 2060 El Dorado (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Rickenbacker-El-Dorado-2050-Jetglo-Black-Bass-/252532906594) - $1.6K BIN
(http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1993rickeldorado9508/large/IMG_7787.jpg)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1993rickeldorado9508/large/IMG_7761.jpg)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1993rickeldorado9508/large/IMG_7780.jpg)
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What a beauty! But it's a 2060, not a 2050. I've PMed the seller about that.
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Pretty.
They could hardly sell any of these in 1993. Now they're relatively rare enough to fetch decent money.
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Now here is a funny thing about that '73 4000. I remembered seeing it somewhere in the past. And then I found it. It was sold by Swami at the now-gone Bass Palace, in Jan 2012, when it had a black overspray. I remembered the exact same crack in the pickguard. I compared the pictures for the one definite birth mark - fretboard grain. Well, as far as I can tell it's the same bass. I guess someone managed to get the black paint off the Fireglo. Also there's a mark under the MADE in the TRC - same on both pics. And the off-center cut on the E bridge saddle... it's that bass.
I entered a bid... wish me luck.
(http://thebasspalace.com/images/40b.JPG)
I almost bought that 4000 from Swami at the Dallas Guitar Show in 2011. I wanted a jetglo Ric and almost handed over the money but found a jetglo '79 4001 at another booth and got that instead. I remember it because I could only find 2 Ric basses at the entire show that year. IIRC he was letting it go for 13 or 1400 then. Now that I see it in fireglo I sort of wish I'd pulled the trigger now but I love the one I wound up with.
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And another 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-Model-4000-Fire-Glo-Electric-Bass-Free-Shipping-Vintage-/222258076369). $2.9K
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MHIAAOSwLF1X45wW/s-l1600.jpg)
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Nicer than today's Fireglo.
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'72 dark AZG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Rickenbacker-4001-Azureglo-Electric-Bass-Free-Shipping-Vintage-/222261719342) - $8,675 BIN
Coolest Ric ever IMHO
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YhIAAOSwzaJX6J-Y/s-l1600.jpg)
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Beautiful!
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+1 8)
Bizarre translation on the notes though...
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Two of the Grovers fell apart, glued back into place and the glue has reacted with the CV finish.
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And another 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Rickenbacker-Model-4000-Fire-Glo-Electric-Bass-Free-Shipping-Vintage-/222258076369). $2.9K
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MHIAAOSwLF1X45wW/s-l1600.jpg)
Damn, love the grain and burst on that. Wish my 4001v63 had that burst.
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An early 4080 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4080-Double-neck-Bass-Guitar-/222274244862) - GBP 4,000 ($5K) BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LFwAAOSwmLlX94Fp/s-l1600.jpg)
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That looks to be in remarkably good shape.
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A reasonably priced 4003SPC Blackstar (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Blackstar-/252578685542), starts at $2.5K. Seller says he will include the original BT bridge/tailpiece.
I have to admit that the black Hipshot doesn't look bad on JG.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iOUAAOSw8gVX-907/s-l1600.jpg)
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It doesn't look bad, at least on a Blackstar. I wonder how much it changes the tone.
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I've used both the brass and aluminum versions. The brass weighed a ton and darkened the tone some. The aluminum sounded pretty much stock.
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1974
transparent mocha or whatever non-burst WAL (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Bass-4001-Vintage-1974-Excellent-Condition-/222283210520), unrealistic $3.4K BIN.
Years ago I used to see those from time to time on eBay and then they disappeared. Some said it was a non-burst application of "Walnut", others said it was faded Burgundyglo. But fading usually is not uniform, and these are. If I'm not mistaken, all non-burst WALs were 1974. Paul?
Anyway, I love those last-of-the-half-inch basses.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gaYAAOSwU-pXs-MN/s-l1600.jpg)
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I had one for a short time, and it was (as I recall) a '75 but it must have been an early '75 as it had the ½" bass pickup position. I think the three or four "non-burst" Walnut finish basses I've seen either in person or in photos have been '74 or '75 instruments.
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I don't remember seeing that finish before. Very nice.
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This is in a catalog I still have from the late 70s.
http://www.rickenbacker.com/gallery_image.asp?archive_id=1958&gallery_year=1970
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The one in the auction looks too glossy to be the same brown as in the catalog. It's not just the lighting glare.
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They did glossy (Walnut) and non-glossy (AutmnGlo) versions of tobacco sunburst. Maybe the same on these? Definitely an anomaly, but they're out there. Cool and rare.
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The story of "Autumnglo," "Walnut," and "Brown" is confusing and apparently changed at least a few times back in the '70s and '80s. Don't know that there was ever a bass in that "Brown" matte finish, but for a while "Autumnglo" was made with a semimatte clear coat while the same color with a gloss coat was considered "Walnut." The "Brown" matte overall finish appears to have been applied to a few models of guitars, but not to any basses that I've seen. The overall, glossy, non-burst Walnut ones that I've seen so far appear to be from '74 and early '75. Much more in the book.
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1989 Lefty V63 PMC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1989-Rickenbacker-4001-V63-SPC-LEFT-HANDED-Bass-FIREGLO-/371769328680). $5,790 BIN
The PMC option was offered for lefties only - flipped headstock for the authentic Macca look (before he sprayed, stripped and reshaped his bass).
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fagAAOSwgHZYCoHm/s-l1600.jpg)
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The HS PU surround shape is not the same as Macca's was.
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The HS PU surround shape is not the same as Macca's was.
But not totally different.
The original surround on his '64 was the wide type with the taper, then when RIC replaced the pickup with a high-gain they also replaced the surround with the newer rounded corners rectangular type.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/11/0f/7a/110f7ae398d491aed68fddc2bb9b6abc.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/68/bb/86/68bb86a2fb8a6dffd437dfdec73cb780.jpg)
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And another one - 1991 PMC in MG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1991-Rickenbacker-4001-V63-SPC-LEFT-HANDED-Bass-MAPLEGLO-/152289701199)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LLAAAOSwgHZYCoAs/s-l1600.jpg)
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But not totally different.
The original surround on his '64 was the wide type with the taper, then when RIC replaced the pickup with a high-gain they also replaced the surround with the newer rounded corners rectangular type.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/11/0f/7a/110f7ae398d491aed68fddc2bb9b6abc.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/68/bb/86/68bb86a2fb8a6dffd437dfdec73cb780.jpg)
Yes, they are similar, but they are different, something most of us use as identifiers/differentiators when discussing traits of model years, for example. When Rickenbacker replaced the pickup and surround it was with a "modern" one. Paul's original surround has the short tail on the back end of it. The PMC's surround is like that on Chris Squire's RM1999, with the square upper corners, whereas Macca's had round upper corners, like this one:
http://www.rickenbacker.me.uk/home/Bass_Models.html#28
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I have seen modern surrounds modded to look like that.
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Yes, they can be modded to be pretty close in appearance; I think the rear flange is still a bit shorter on the modern surrounds vs. a real 1963 one. I wonder if Graham has a modern surround to compare with the one on his '63 4001. Those two PMC basses look like they were basically a 4001CS with a reversed headstock, or visa versa. Or, more likely, based on the early 4001V63s that featured that surround shape.
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Both from Olivia's, must be from someone liquidating his collection.
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On Reverb: 1976 3000 (https://reverb.com/item/3205710-1976-rickenbacker-3000-bass-ala-stone-roses-primal-scream-mani-short-scale) in very nice shape.
No idea whether or not that price is reasonable.
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IMHO $1.9K is 4001 money, not 3000.
Someone should come up with an alternative pickguard shape that will make a 3000 look more elegant. It looks like a big blotch.
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--lYZoa5O_--/a_exif,c_limit,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_auto:eco,w_1600/v1476014524/jkemzbltr0sx7xo2mizh.jpg)
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It would be cool to have a shorty Ric, but that's too much money. Doesn't help that it's outside the U.S.
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I'm still peeved that Chris P. sold his without telling me. :)
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I'm still peeved that Chris P. sold his without telling me. :)
I'm not. He sold it to me. ;-)
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I'm not. He sold it to me. ;-)
I'm envious!
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Recent 4003S (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Rickenbacker-4003S-Fireglow-Excellent-Case-Shipped-/351898953219) with vintage style parts. Wide guard (but still 1" so no extra routing, but new screw holes), plexi TRC, HS surround, gap-tooth tailpiece and plexi tug bar. Cool looking bass with attractive grain on the fretboard. $1,450 starting bid
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9qQAAOSwx2dYDIew/s-l1600.jpg)
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I know a couple of dealers who will sell you a new, unmodified 4003S for less than his starting bid.
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Double-bound 2050 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-2050-El-Dorado-/322340299409) in Italy. Missing TRC... $2,100 BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jlgAAOSwgmJXxqTZ/s-l1600.jpg)
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"This instrument is very rare." Yes, b/c almost no one would buy them. Wouldn't surprise me if there were still a few unsold ones somewhere.
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And exclusive among Rick basses, the 2050 has the gold-plated Schaller tuners with the "Rickenbacker" brand name embossed on the baseplate. The 2050 was the bass model I had the hardest time finding photos for the book. Pretty rare. The trimmed-down 2030 was much more easy to find.
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Only one I saw in person was hanging in a local store for several years.
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"4003" and "Original, no modifications". OK...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1975-4003-Mapleglo-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/232159227559? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1975-4003-Mapleglo-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/232159227559?)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xaQAAOSw-0xYPgFi/s-l1600.jpg)
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"4003" and "Original, no modifications". OK...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1975-4003-Mapleglo-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/232159227559? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-1975-4003-Mapleglo-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/232159227559?)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xaQAAOSw-0xYPgFi/s-l1600.jpg)
Well loved and taken care of by one owner.
Which one? ;) :mrgreen: Certainly not the seller, eh? :mrgreen:
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I'm confused. Was the seller well taken care of by the original owner? ???
Ric needs to bring back the Dimarzios and mini-switches for that unmodified vintage tone. :mrgreen:
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I'm guessing that is an X2N-B and a Model G in the bridge? Very much a product of the era! How would it sound?
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I messaged the seller with suggested corrections. It's a 4001 in yellowed white, not a 4003 Mapleglo. And of course all the pickup stuff is not anywhere near standard. I suggested value of $1200-$1600 and that $6gs was "optimistic."
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All I can say is: that guy has impeccable taste as it relates to aftermarket Dimarzios ;D
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/hamer/hsb1.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/forums/hamer/hsb1.jpg.html)
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I'm guessing that is an X2N-B and a Model G in the bridge? Very much a product of the era! How would it sound?
Not sure. Probably not very much like a Ric.
I messaged the seller with suggested corrections. It's a 4001 in yellowed white, not a 4003 Mapleglo. And of course all the pickup stuff is not anywhere near standard. I suggested value of $1200-$1600 and that $6gs was "optimistic."
Your suggested value is right on. The market will take care of his optimism.
He still hasn't corrected the description.
All I can say is: that guy has impeccable taste as it relates to aftermarket Dimarzios ;D
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/hamer/hsb1.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/forums/hamer/hsb1.jpg.html)
Showoff!
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I am really getting envious of these Hamer explorer basses!
I've kinda wanted one for about 33 years now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5bS3_BCDs
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I messaged the seller with suggested corrections.
Me too. ;D I didn't even catch the MapleGlo part! Might actually sound pretty wicked.
I am really getting envious of these Hamer explorer basses!
Also me too!
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I am really getting envious of these Hamer explorer basses!
I've kinda wanted one for about 33 years now...
Same here. Searched long and hard for one like Savage's, and finally found one last year - an '81. Same exact setup as the bass in the video, but in '59 burst flametop with a preamp. That one is all mahogany w/chunky D profile neck. The black one is a '90 with maple neck. Profile on that one is much like a Tbird. Came with black hardware and EMG-HBs, but Carlo helped me out with the chrome bits, and Jon helped me out with the pickups (and bass!).
Really like the Dimarzios in 'em... but I'll stick with a toaster and hi-gain in my 4001, thank you very much! 8)
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one like Savage's,
when I was prepping the video for the tour I did with Leppard, I spent a bunch of money having 3d models of a Jackson Strat, a gold-top Les Paul and a Hamer explorer made so that I could spin them around on the screens during one of the songs.
Despite having checked the make and model with management beforehand, and them signing off on the footage, it wasn't until the first show when I found out Sav had switched to Washburn J shapes. too late to do anything about it, that section of the show always bugged the shit out of me
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I am really getting envious of these Hamer explorer basses!
Also me too!
I got my fix when I had an Alembic Exploiter in the '90s!
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Seller still hasn't corrected the listing. Not that anyone is going to offer anything remotely near that, but when you've been informed nicely that your info is way off base and you do nothing to correct it, you're somebody I wouldn't buy from anyway.
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I don't find this cool but anyway: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Rickenbacker-rare-limited-edition-Blue-Boy-4003-bass-guitar-/162307509369?hash=item25ca480c79:g:-YcAAOSwzaJX86Qa (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Rickenbacker-rare-limited-edition-Blue-Boy-4003-bass-guitar-/162307509369?hash=item25ca480c79:g:-YcAAOSwzaJX86Qa)
10000£ BIN for a Blue Boy-finish seems a tad optimistic.
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Well, the seller does say the price is high and is open to offers, so offer him a more realistic market price and see how it goes.
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1967 4005/6 LH (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Rickenbacker-4005-6-6-String-Bass-Lefty-/152347610116), only one in existence. $15K BIN.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/11322.jpg)
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Dorothy ought to buy that for Paul as a Christmas gift as it it probably the rarest bass in his book. :)
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Nah. Don't need the bass, but do need the photos. I requested same from the seller. Hope they can provide. Nice catch, Ilan!
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'72 FG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-72-4001-Used-w-Hard-case-/172451238116)... Oh those bursts
8.8 lbs., $7,179 BIN. Desktop wallpaper is free...
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/inwAAOSw2xRYV9Jd/s-l1600.jpg)
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Lefty Tux (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003s-1987-Tuxedo-Left-Handed-/302187593989) - reasonable (imho) $2,500 BIN price.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wLkAAOSw9GhYbZmf/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fzgAAOSw-0xYbZly/s-l1600.jpg)
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Very reasonable. Somebody actually wants to sell it rather than just show it off.
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Quite possibly the only lefty 4003SPC Tuxedo.
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4002 WAL (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4002-Electric-Bass-Guitar-/172489723290). Starting bid $3K, no reserve. 7 days to go.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eEAAAOSw4DJYfaG7/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~vAAAOSw44BYfaGk/s-l1600.jpg)
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I've always wondered why theses sold so poorly. Price or sound? Never saw one in a store.
This one will bring a hefty price.
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Sold for $4,719.
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I thought it would sell for $8-9K.
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I wouldn't have been surprised if it had gone that high. It's hard to predict.
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67/89 Lefty 4005 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-Handed-Rickenbacker-4005-Bass-The-Only-Lefty-4-String-4005-Ever-Made-/361898322234) - GBP 10K (US$12.4K) BIN
The seller writes - "Only two left handed Rickenbacker 4005 bass guitars were ever made, one was a 6 string finished in Fireglo and this 4 string Mapleglo is the other one.
This bass was originally made in 1967 and was archived/lost in the system at Rickenbacker until it was unearthed and completed 1989. It has a 1967 serial number and all parts are from that era apart from the finish which was applied in 1989."
Paul - can you confirm?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YiYAAOSw9GhYl5Ee/s-l500.jpg)
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I can't confirm the numbers ("only two"), but this and the lefty 4005/6 are the only ones I've seen photos of. Can't confirm the "late" finishing. This Mapleglo 4005 was/is owned by Peter Levett in the U.K. and although a photo I have of it was not used in the book, it may show up in a second edition.
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2001 S/8 ClownGlo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Rickenbacker-4003S8-8-String-Bass-Fireglo-Finish-/282357771544). $3,850 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jdEAAOSwfVpYn2j1/s-l1600.jpg)
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"it'd look better with tort" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Rickenbacker-4001-V63-Electric-Bass-Guitar-w-Original-Rickenbacker-Case-/391705841042?hash=item5b337ccd92%3Ag%3A6acAAOSw2gxYpIdh)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~cUAAOSw2gxYpIfC/s-l1600.jpg)
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Well that looks like an explosion in a pickguard factory.I
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There's a butcher on the loose! And this one is an 8 string - http://www.ebay.com/itm/391705836918?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HWQAAOSw32lYpJgp/s-l1600.jpg)
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Both being sold by a pawn shop. Figures.
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Those just make me sad.
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Note that the bridge pickup has been moved rearward about an inch on both of those.
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Oh the humanity! :o
That s8 would be fun to "nuke and pave" and bring back from the nether-regions if the price were right... but most Ebay projects tend to get bid too high. There are a lot of unknowns with that one, in addition to the routing.
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Please tell me Rick did not issue those guards... PLEASE...! :o
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From RIC's facebook page - a one-off 4000 in flat black (https://www.facebook.com/ricguitars/photos/pcb.1274754435941538/1274753142608334/?type=1&theater).
Relocated 3000 Series pickup
On-board overdrive
Vinyl b/w/b/w pickguard (unfortunately the double-hump shape)
Laser etched TRC
The fretboard looks unfinished but I could be wrong about that.
(https://fb-s-b-a.akamaihd.net/h-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/16830810_1274753142608334_4334717755509792422_n.jpg?oh=5182f1312f2e5d1a5f7e88d0eb97ebca&oe=59367799&__gda__=1496461239_568db8cfb8c0f1ab4d4dd1c572935e47)(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16807486_1274753819274933_7660406428891777179_n.jpg?oh=8f07f7867d96a24aa5c1168511c95ed7&oe=58FE48DB)
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Wow!
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I must say, this one reminds me of some cheap knockoffs with the treble pickup too close to the bridge. It just looks wrong.
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w199/rick4001s/the_troop2.jpg)
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I must say, this one reminds me of some cheap knockoffs with the treble pickup too close to the bridge. It just looks wrong.
Not unlike what the butcher did to the V63 and S8 above! It's cool, unique, different. Not for me, but I'm sure someone will love it.
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The fretboard looks unfinished but I could be wrong about that.
The whole thing looks unfinished. ???
When I first saw this I figured it would be an active bass, with a bass boost/cut. Overdrive seems an odd choice, and that pickup surely isn't going to deliver much if any low end? Not sure why Rickenbacker has gone with satin black finishes as of late. It reminds me of Gibson's 'Goth' range of ~ 15 years ago, and I don't think it sits very well with the Bubinga boards.
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Going by my own experiences with Rick basses that have bridge pickups close to the bridge, with some judicious EQing that bass will scream, in a good way, and with tons of bottom end to it.
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The board is unfinished rosewood. AFAIK they haven't used bubinga for several years.
Hard to say how it will sound. Someone will love it.
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Caribbean Rosewood (Chechen) has been used in place of bubinga since late 2011.
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Caribbean Rosewood (Chechen) has been used in place of bubinga since late 2011.
That's interesting. RIC specs say the fretboards are rosewood but chechen is not a rosewood at all. Different genus.
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That's interesting. RIC specs say the fretboards are rosewood but chechen is not a rosewood at all. Different genus.
Good thing too, given the change in status of all rosewoods that occurred on January 2, 2017.
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According to John Hall in an interview for the book, he states: " . . . neither African rosewood (bubinga) nor Caribbean rosewood (chechen) are true rosewoods in the Dalbergia family."
I don't know from family or genus when it comes to this stuff, but it doesn't matter. I can't imagine RIC using any wood that is from an endangered source.
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I'm guessing this was designed as a "solo bass". With octave strings, as a piccolo bass, could be awesome. But not something to take to your R&B gig.
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According to John Hall in an interview for the book, he states: " . . . neither African rosewood (bubinga) nor Caribbean rosewood (chechen) are true rosewoods in the Dalbergia family."
I don't know from family or genus when it comes to this stuff, but it doesn't matter. I can't imagine RIC using any wood that is from an endangered source.
It doesn't matter so long as it's a suitable fretboard wood, and IMHO both bubinga and chechen are fine. OTOH with the severe restrictions on shipping rosewood that went into effect last month, it might be time to stop referring to chechen as Caribbean rosewood. Might cause a lot of unnecessary grief to some unsuspecting musicians.
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It doesn't matter so long as it's a suitable fretboard wood, and IMHO both bubinga and chechen are fine. OTOH with the severe restrictions on shipping rosewood that went into effect last month, it might be time to stop referring to chechen as Caribbean rosewood. Might cause a lot of unnecessary grief to some unsuspecting musicians.
I agree (again :mrgreen:).
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Chris Squire signature (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001CS-Chris-Squire-Limited-Edition-Used-w-Hard-case-/172557236914). $6K BIN
Looks almost NOS and they kept the sticker for 20 years.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eNkAAOSw4A5Yt8Z1/s-l1600.jpg)
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1992 Rickenbacker 4003S/5 in yellowed White/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Rickenbacker-4003S5-Rare-5-String-Bass-with-Case-/282383478619). Really fat horns era. $3.7K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/c1UAAOSwuxFYuvVo/s-l1600.jpg)
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Is that price high, or do they really go for that much now?
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I think it's $600-700 too high but they are rare and if I really wanted one and liked the color, I'd probably pay.
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They have the same 33.25" scale length right? Does the B string even sound good? Maybe there's a reason Ric doesn't make 5 strings anymore.
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Same scale length.
The narrow string spacing seemed to bother owners more than the low B output or definition.
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I keep thinking about the Midnight Blue 4003S/5 I played at a local Guitar Center around 1998-99. It was in great shape. They were asking $550. Hindsight is 20/20.
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They have the same 33.25" scale length right? Does the B string even sound good? Maybe there's a reason Ric doesn't make 5 strings anymore.
It sounds great. About half as loud as the other strings. Except for the G string which isn't quite there either. But the E, A and D sound just fine, 3 out of 5 ain't bad.
And the shorter scale provides for an enticingly rubbery feel of the B, what's not to like?
Why Ric doesn't build 5ers anymore? One word: realization. :mrgreen:
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Ouch, that's harsh.
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That is the truth. 5 string Ricks are worthless. Finding a 4 with a solid E isnt even easy.
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That is the truth. 5 string Ricks are worthless. Finding a 4 with a solid E isnt even easy.
All 5 of the Rick basses I've owned had solid Es. Never heard one that didn't. Not quite as booming as a 34" scale but certainly not weak or lower in volume.
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FWIW, when Chris Squire recorded The Fish (on Fragile), it's all his Ric except for the roaring low E for which he used a Fender Jazz.
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I've owned 6 Rickenbackers. 2 had an E that could cut - a 72 and a Shadow - the rest washed out on stage. I tried everything. My tech was Chris Squiers tech - a Rickenbacker guru. No shit.
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My tech was Chris Squiers tech...
Who's Chris Squiers? :mrgreen:
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FWIW, when Chris Squire recorded The Fish (on Fragile), it's all his Ric except for the roaring low E for which he used a Fender Jazz.
What Chris Squire used on one track to get the sound he wanted doesn't concern me. Never heard the album, although you couldn't escape Roundabout.
I've owned 6 Rickenbackers. 2 had an E that could cut - a 72 and a Shadow - the rest washed out on stage. I tried everything. My tech was Chris Squiers tech - a Rickenbacker guru. No shit.
I've owned 5, including a 4004. None had an E string problem. One of those is now played regularly on stage by the friend I sold it to. No problem hearing the E.
Maybe the problem is with the tech, Rickenbacker guru or not.
Who's Chris Squiers? :mrgreen:
Leo's former stringmaker. :mrgreen:
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I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. This is my (and many others i know) experience as a working bassist who has owned many Rick basses.
No need to be offended. I still love Rickenbackers - Just much more challenging to find a good one - mix wise - than, say, a P bass.
There were ZERO issue with Jim Mouradians tech skills. He was one of the best.
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I'm not offended in the least, but I don't believe it. It runs completely counter to my experience, both when I gigged my old jetglo 4003 and when listening to other Rick players. There's nothing inherent in the scale length or the pickups that would prevent the E from being heard clearly in a mix. If not, then IMHO either the bass isn't set up optimally, or it's not EQ'd optimally at the amp or by the sound guy.
FWIW, I've heard plenty of Precisions get lost on stage over the years. And that's despite the fact that most sound guys know how to handle them, or at least think they do. Again, it's not the bass.
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My '74 4001 had a weak e-string for years until I realised it was due to the weak breaking angle over the nut. Pushing the string down slightly between nut and keywind revealed the problem clearly. So next string swap I made sure to wind the string as far down on the post as possible. Problem solved.
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Does any guitar maker besides RIC use the term keywind?
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Does any guitar maker besides RIC use the term keywind?
Not to my knowledge but I do like that term.
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A very clean 4001CS (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001CS-Limited-Edition-Bass-/371917276433), CoA, #189. GBP4,295 ($5,587) BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UqEAAOSwU8hY7JjZ/s-l1600.jpg)
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Wow, this one's pretty. The condition almost seems too good to not be a refin but who knows...
https://reverb.com/item/5131209-rickenbacker-4001-fl-1973-fireglo-fretless-fret-less-fire-glo-checker-binding-ric
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Back when Fireglo looked good instead of overly red and white. Without seeing it, I'd guess it's not a refin. Too hard to reproduce that.
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Wow, this one's pretty. The condition almost seems too good to not be a refin but who knows...
https://reverb.com/item/5131209-rickenbacker-4001-fl-1973-fireglo-fretless-fret-less-fire-glo-checker-binding-ric
Beautiful and rare!
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Chris Brubeck with his FL. The guy can play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EySQ2ei1NTA
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That's hot.
Drop someone like Steve Garibaldi in there and it's off to the races.... 8)
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I found better pics of the '73 fretless on the Ric Register. Apparently it was on ebay in 2013 and didnt sell at $1476, that would have been a steal. :-\
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Remember those? TV Yellow C64 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4001-C64S-Bass-TV-Yellow-Original-Hardshell-Case-/132205138081). Starting at $950, 6 days to go.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3E8AAOSw3gJZJ-pD/s-l1600.jpg)
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I sent him a correction. He has listed it as a 4001C64S, but it is not the S version (which has rounded-off body horns).
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These are fairly recent, aren't they? About 10 years ago?
TV Yellow LOL. Nothing like Gibson's TV finish.
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Probably around 2010-11 on the T.V. Yellow. Five were made (supposedly). Never got the "T.V." reference. What's yellow got to do with T.V.?
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...Never got the "T.V." reference. What's yellow got to do with T.V.?
I think it has to do with yellow showing the instrument more prominently on B&W televisions back in the day.
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Probably around 2010-11 on the T.V. Yellow. Five were made (supposedly). Never got the "T.V." reference. What's yellow got to do with T.V.?
I think it has to do with yellow showing the instrument more prominently on B&W televisions back in the day.
No, it doesn't. That story is absurd. Unfortunately it's been spread around for years.
Limed finishes were the most popular furniture finish in the mid 50s and limed finish console TV cabinets were selling like hotcakes. Gibson introduced a version of the Les Paul Junior as the Les Paul TV Model (http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/1958_17.php). The difference between it and the regular Junior was the finish. It was yellowish so the color later became known as TV Yellow. Here's a '55 (https://musicstorelive.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x1200/cbcbef48e5e3bcce7c7ed908f20bc5b4/1/9/1955_gibson_les_paul_jr_tv_yellow_electric_guitar_11399.jpg) -- nowhere near as yellow as reissues because they aren't finished the same way.
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No, it doesn't. That story is absurd. Unfortunately it's been spread around for years.
Indeed absurd, Gibson would have wanted any solidbody endorsee to bring a goldtop or a custom if they were to appear on TV.
But a few books point out that the TV name was to connect potential solidbody buyers with what they have heard on TV, remember that Les and Mary appeared on TV all the time with their Gibson guitars, and obviously Gibson wanted something that was possible to buy for anyone.
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Indeed absurd, Gibson would have wanted any solidbody endorsee to bring a goldtop or a custom if they were to appear on TV.
But a few books point out that the TV name was to connect potential solidbody buyers with what they have heard on TV, remember that Les and Mary appeared on TV all the time with their Gibson guitars, and obviously Gibson wanted something that was possible to buy for anyone.
LOL. That story came from Les himself, remembering the influence of his TV show that he says ran from 1953-1960, despite the fact that he never had his own TV show (he did 5-minute spots for Listerine for 18 months), and he and Mary were finished as hitmakers by 1955. Les remembered many things that never happened. I won't go into all that in a Rickenbacker thread. Look at old TV promo sheets or ads from that time, you'll find many limed finish cabinets, especially limed oak. Gibson's earliest promo sheets and price lists for the TV Model refer to the finish as limed oak. That's no coincidence. It was to connect the finish with TV cabinet finishes.
Now back to Rickenbackers. Sorry for the distraction.
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Here's a nice application of FG over birdseye maple. '73 4000 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/182617273733). $3K BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/h74AAOSwpONZPhWE/s-l1600.jpg)
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A 330 converted to Light Show short-scale bass (http://www.ebay.com/itm/332261479699) by Paul Wilczynski. $4.5K BIN.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/A3EAAOSwPWRZPsvl/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/F6wAAOSwiQ9ZPstg/s-l1600.jpg)
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27 frets! :o
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Terrible paint job on that, IMO. What's with the orange area between the pickups? Why not just paint the whole body the same color. Same with the headstock. If that is supposed to be FG the sprayer was way heavy handed, again, IMO.
27 frets is fine, as Paul needed something to fill in the extra fingerboard area. A fretless fingerboard would have been way cooler on this bass.
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DP
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Lightshow sold for the BIN.
It's unusual, so I understand the appeal, but unless that replacement neck was built at the factory, it's really not a Rickenbacker.
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Paul Boyer's naked Tux (http://www.ebay.com/itm/332270963228) (Stripped 4003SPC Tuxedo) on eBay.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IDoAAOSwPK1ZR77H/s-l1600.jpg)
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Just a used 2016 4003S Jetglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/112446598588), but I think it looks extra cool with the replacement black pickguard and TRC.
(https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server300/dks6ju/products/0/images/124262/3__74223.1497717968.1280.1280.JPG?c=2&_ga=2.16840505.1217589161.1497369971-1004913655.1491319977)
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The naked tux should sell with no problem.
The 4003S does look cool but I don't understand the pricing. You can buy a new one for less than that if you know where to look.
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I love yellowed binding on a Jetglo. Early '73 w/cb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/172785682921), $4,173 BIN
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lb8AAOSwnK9ZR8MC/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's in great shape.
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'72 Azureglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/332314411508) in Japan. $9,480 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HGMAAOSwBoZZcyLX/s-l500.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/S-sAAOSwF6dZcyLf/s-l500.jpg)
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Beautiful!
In the past year or two I've seen many basses and guitars on eBay from Japan at about twice the going value (or more). Must be collectors trying to recoup their investments from years ago, before the recession, when they paid inflated prices.
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Psst guys, Jerome Rimson just joined is to talk about his Rick/Alembic in the other topic.
Maybe you missed that because I replied and now his name no longer stands next to the topic.
Thought you might wanna check it out.
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Burgandy-glo with checkerboard binding. Always loved this color.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1973-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-guitar-checkerboard-binding-toaster-pickup-case-/122645878785?hash=item1c8e439801:g:BPcAAOSwEY9Zj02A
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Burgandy-glo with checkerboard binding. Always loved this color.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1973-Rickenbacker-4001-bass-guitar-checkerboard-binding-toaster-pickup-case-/122645878785?hash=item1c8e439801:g:BPcAAOSwEY9Zj02A
Mmmm... Eggplant! Nice, but a little steep on the price.
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Lefty Chris Squire (http://www.ebay.com/itm/302440270042). $5K. How rare is that?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/egYAAOSwDMhZrYai/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WzgAAOSwVgZZrYai/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OZMAAOSw2AFZrYdE/s-l1600.jpg)
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Wanna buy some rockin' horse droppin's...?
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'74 4005 in Jetglo (http://www.ebay.com/itm/272861133384). $6.7K starting bid.
Button-top pickups. JG and BG are imho the best colors for a 4005. FG makes its ass look even fatter than it is.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2-YAAOSw1HxZyCkP/s-l1600.jpg)
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That just looks great.
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2002 S/8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/332396356547) in clownglo, $3,349 BIN. Seller says the neck is good.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C5kAAOSw9fRZweuE/s-l500.jpg)
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2002 was in the extra thick neck era, so I don't doubt the seller. Hate that clownglo though.
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Hate that clownglo though.
Another evil clown sighting
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1976 AutumnGlo fretless (http://www.ebay.com/itm/282697120607), $1,850 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kg4AAOSwtC9Z5SkB/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FMwAAOSw8xlZ5Sk9/s-l1600.jpg)
1992 2050 FG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/372106859831) (listed as 2060 - thx Paul for the correction), $1,690 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ElUAAOSwHFpZ5Nrs/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LCIAAOSwMkhZ5Nrn/s-l1600.jpg)
1986 S/8 WHT/BT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/172922665918), GBP 2,750 ($3,645) starting price
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aOAAAOSw4P1ZyAY0/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YagAAOSwuk1ZyAY6/s-l1600.jpg)
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Nice Autumnglo, nice price too.
Clownglo 2060 :puke:
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Nice Autumnglo
I used to think this is the worst looking Ric standard finish, until I started to see it as Höfner Brunette on a Ric. But if I had one I'd doubtlessly have it clearcoated and buffed to a high gloss WAL.
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I replied to Olivia's Vintage about the "2060" - it's actually a 2050. Hope they make the correction to the listing.
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A little pricey but I like the B/W binding on Jetglo.
https://reverb.com/item/4583050-all-black-rickenbacker-4001-1977-jetglo
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They did make some pinstripe basses although this was never formally offered as an option.
Here's a stunning '76 Walnut (gloss Autumnglo) 4001 with pinstripe -
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'72 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/122810862263), $7.5K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7kUAAOSwZqZaDJsd/s-l1600.jpg)
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Very nice, but about 4 to 4.5Gs too much. He's dreaming if he wants to get the money he's asking.
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Some are dreamers, others don't need to sell and know they're asking way too much but hope for that one buyer who really wants it.
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A 72 with neck toaster / crushed pearl inlay / wavy grovers / checkerboard / all original is a pretty rare beast. I think he's about 2.5k over
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If he gets that much for it mine will be for sale right behind it!
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1990 MG/BT S5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/332490997785) from Jeff Rath - not one of his 4-to-5 conversions. $3,200 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s5sAAOSw4aBaNxWw/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ub4AAOSwk1haNxYa/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dRMAAOSwZqZaNxXm/s-l1600.jpg)
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Jeff couldn't resist taking a swipe at RIC in the last two sentences of the description. At least that's the way I take it. His problem is that he can't force the Hall family to do what he wants.
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"Rickenbacker has made just one 5 string bass in the last 17 years" - that refers to a one-off bass that was made like his 4-2-5 basses, a four-string C64 carcass converted to a fiver with a 5th tuner crammed in between the original D and G tuners Rath-style.
Starting bid for that Mint/BT C64/5 was $3,699, and Jeff posted on TB on April 9, 2016, "that price is too steep for me ..." Now he's asking for $3,200 for a used standard S5.
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1990 MG/BT S5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/332490997785) from Jeff Rath - not one of his 4-to-5 conversions. $3,200 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s5sAAOSw4aBaNxWw/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ub4AAOSwk1haNxYa/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dRMAAOSwZqZaNxXm/s-l1600.jpg)
Finally a Ric with all black hardware that I actually think looks good!
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Finally a Ric with all black hardware that I actually think looks good!
About 2000-2002 I passed on a late 80s 4003 at Guitar Center that they had underpriced at $500 b/c I thought the black trim made the mapleglo look bad.
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Black Trim was a very 80s look, not in a good way, but now from a 30 years perspective it starts to look retro, and retro has its appeal.
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I had an '86 4003 in white with all black trim and it looked pretty good IMO. I'm a sucker for that "tuxedo" look.
For a Ric it was just okay and didn't excite me much so it moved on.
(https://i.imgur.com/PMoO5Ug.jpg)
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About 2000-2002 I passed on a late 80s 4003 at Guitar Center that they had underpriced at $500 b/c I thought the black trim made the mapleglo look bad.
I'm not a fan of MapleGlo. I think black trim is a huge improvement, but as is often the case, I'm in the minority.
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I love mapleglo, and black trim looks good on some of the other finishes. Mapleglo and black together? Not for me, although I'll go back and buy the one I mentioned for $500 as soon as I perfect my time machine.
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2050 El Dorado (https://www.ebay.com/itm/182973047483) in poor condition but all original, listed as "70's 3001", $500 starting bid.
Could look much better with some Scratch-X and Zymol. Good deal if it stays near this price. The seller says "neck is twisted a little?"
When it's clean and shiny (Catalog picture (http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster_piece.asp?poster_piece=cf84-200-4.jpg)) this is the only 2000/3000 Series bass that I find attractive.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QcIAAOSw~HBaOaSV/s-l1600.jpg)
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I am dealing with a twisted neck right now. Solution = new fretboard = mucho bucks.
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Now listed as a 2050 and has a $250 bid.
Twisted a little could be as simple as not knowing how to adjust the dual truss rods, and could be a simple fix. Even if not, could be a good deal if the price stays low.
I'm always amazed that a seller won't put in a little effort to make it look presentable.
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It does look crusty, but should clean up. I added it to my watch list even though I'm not Rick-aspirational.
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Twisted a little could be as simple as not knowing how to adjust the dual truss rods, and could be a simple fix.
I was thinking the same thing Dave.
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"neck is twisted a little"
The fact he felt compelled to mention it is worrisome.
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The neck plate looks very rusty. Did anything on those basses give off corrosive gas over time, or has this been stored somewhere unfavorable?
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4001v63 in Jetglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/164/263401493418). $2,980 BIN
They did it to basses with flaws or unattractive grain, still I love them in gloss black more than in the standard FG or MG.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qyAAAOSwW6BaPjps/s-l1600.jpg)
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The fabulous British Racing Green + CB bass is on Reverb! (https://reverb.com/item/7929026) for US$3,460, and on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/142633935757) for a measly sum of GBP 3,125 (US$4,175).
That is one PERFECT bass.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--x7I4Hqfh--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1513804575/vvpru77lyx7ux2hztonq.jpg)
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I love that BRG bass. Price doesn't seem out of line for a one-off with CB.
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Maybe there was more than one made.
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Might have missed it but one seller is noting the BRG as 25 off... not a one off...
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Might have missed it but one seller is noting the BRG as 25 off... not a one off...
Sorry, I missed that.
The one on Reverb is already sold.
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Wow, that BRG is stunning!
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I'd like it better if it was a v63 or even a 4003S.
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The one on Reverb is already sold.
Still time on ebay to get one under the tree, DW... just gonna be slightly late... ;)
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Still time on ebay to get one under the tree, DW... just gonna be slightly late... ;)
I'm satisfied with my Jetglo 4003S, thank you.
It's still fun to look at these.
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2005 Montezuma Brown (https://www.ebay.com/itm/332498349385) in Japan. Reasonable $2,043 BIN.
Can't remember the last time I saw a Monty for sale. That was the '03 CoY extended to '04.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GLwAAOSwcOFaQMVo/s-l1600.jpg)
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I had one for about a year (bought it new). Neck was too uncomfortable to me. Sold it to Scotty Allen for his collection.
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2050 El Dorado (https://www.ebay.com/itm/182973047483) in poor condition but all original, listed as "70's 3001", $500 starting bid.
Could look much better with some Scratch-X and Zymol. Good deal if it stays near this price. The seller says "neck is twisted a little?"
When it's clean and shiny (Catalog picture (http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster_piece.asp?poster_piece=cf84-200-4.jpg)) this is the only 2000/3000 Series bass that I find attractive.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QcIAAOSw~HBaOaSV/s-l1600.jpg)
Sold for $462
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That sounds uncharacteristically cheap...?
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I suspect someone got a real bargain, unless that neck is worse off than I think and can't be corrected with a proper TR adjustment.
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1992 2030GF Glenn Frey (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183033428287), exc cond, EUR 3,480 ($4,288) BIN
Tons of high res pics on eBay.
(https://ebay.rockwall-guitars.de/Rickenbacker_2030GF-glenn-frey_Jetglo_H560XX_1992_55.jpg)
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'82 4002 MG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/112789263114) "near mint". $25K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qXUAAOSwK6pacx4N/s-l1600.jpg)
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It's a shame that the shipping cost is so high. ;)
Has any 4002 sold for over 10K?
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Not Ebay but Reverb. Not one, not two but three 1972's, all of them non original in various ways:
Azureglo: https://reverb.com/item/10254363-rickenbacker-4001-azureglo-1972-s124 (https://reverb.com/item/10254363-rickenbacker-4001-azureglo-1972-s124)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--G54Ys23c--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1518204587/njia3gegh1ycljjpjx9w.jpg)
Mapleglo: https://reverb.com/item/10049290-rickenbacker-4001-1972-mapleglo-stunning-heavy-birds-eye (https://reverb.com/item/10049290-rickenbacker-4001-1972-mapleglo-stunning-heavy-birds-eye)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--MKsrJQPM--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1517538694/rqfoct6c0p19v87qrp4t.jpg)
White 4001S neckthrough: https://reverb.com/item/10146250-rickenbacker-4001s-1972-white-neck-through (https://reverb.com/item/10146250-rickenbacker-4001s-1972-white-neck-through)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--0clV4UH_--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1517971847/vaazvtclgvxntny6qfxo.jpg)
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Perfect basses. The white is a refin of course - was Fireglo.
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Love that Azureglo!
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Love that Azureglo!
You know it's my favorite RIC color. This one is lovely but "the truss rod is minimally adjustable so the bass plays best with light gauge strings" - sign of an unhealthy neck, I don't know if that's a $4K bass.
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Not Ebay but Reverb
Changed the topic subject.
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I noticed... ;)
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Not getting much interest.
https://maine.craigslist.org/msg/d/snowglow-rickenbacker-4003/6492727622.html
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Lefty S/8 (https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/d/left-handed-lefty-rickenbacker/6479517325.html) on Craigslist. $3K
(https://images.craigslist.org/00909_kf9bTf4zDMd_1200x900.jpg)
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'67 4005 Azureglo (https://reverb.com/item/10373139-rickenbacker-4005-bass-1967-azureglo), restored by Paul Wilczynski. $7,950
The body and neck are original, basically everything else is new, including the fretboard and frets. Paul W installed a modern double-action truss rod.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--Lmfco8DY--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1518660494/ncf1btpvh8vikzj5rsjv.jpg)
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Now that's beautiful, and better than the original with the new truss rod and better pickup balance.
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'74 fretless Azureglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/192459297999). $4K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bWsAAOSw~YRaiQ3B/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/t4AAAOSwU9RaiQ24/s-l1600.jpg)
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1997 Turquoise 4001v63 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/332570387360). Missing the "shoes". Very reasonable $2.4K BIN price. From Japan, free worldwide shipping.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jg0AAOSw1AlaloYs/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's in very nice shape for the price.
I wonder what size frets were used for the refret. Can't tell from the photos. The original RIC frets certainly aren't high as the seller seems to be claiming, so these must be pretty low.
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1993 1st generation 4004C (https://www.ebay.com/itm/202244090553). $1,850 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xm0AAOSw6H5aluHk/s-l1600.jpg)
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That 4004C makes me a little nostalgic, but not nostalgic enough to buy it at about twice what I sold mine to Paul for, about a dozen years ago.
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And I still have it! It was my second Rick, and after having as many as 21 Ricks at one point (for about three days, I think), I've kept only two; my first one, a '72 that's been refinished and restored, and the '93 Cheyenne I bought from Dave back in '03 or '04! I did have Jeff Rath do a similar vol/vol/tone mod to it, but she's still a beauty!
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Your Shadow is in good hands. The 3rd Shadow in Israel, also known as "The One From The Book".
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And I still have it! It was my second Rick, and after having as many as 21 Ricks at one point (for about three days, I think), I've kept only two; my first one, a '72 that's been refinished and restored, and the '93 Cheyenne I bought from Dave back in '03 or '04! I did have Jeff Rath do a similar vol/vol/tone mod to it, but she's still a beauty!
One of only two basses I've owned that have made it into a book. The other was a Guild JS II that was in the color pages of S.P. Fjestad's Blue Book of Guitar Values for years (maybe still is).
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That 4004C makes me a little nostalgic, but not nostalgic enough to buy it at about twice what I sold mine to Paul for, about a dozen years ago.
Dave you must have sold it right before Rickenbacker prices soared. I bought an '81 4003S Fireglow for $800 in 2001 and sold it in 2008 for $2100. I turned around and bought a V63. I also sold one too soon, a Jetglo 4003S for $600 in 2003.
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Dave you must have sold it right before Rickenbacker prices soared. I bought an '81 4003S Fireglow for $800 in 2001 and sold it in 2008 for $2100. I turned around and bought a V63. I also sold one too soon, a Jetglo 4003S for $600 in 2003.
Paul says it was 2003 or 2004, he must be right. That was before used prices went up. I had bought it for slightly less from Mark Furlong (fur85) a couple of years before, just wanted to break even after shipping. No regrets.
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I bought my '89 4003S for $625 in 2000. It was well played, but all original, including case.
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Right around Y2K, one of the local GC stores had a used near mint mapleglo/BT 4003 for $500. I passed b/c I already had one 4003. Stupid me.
About the same time, another location had a midnight blue 4003s/5 at $550. That was the only one I ever remember seeing in person and playing.
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1973 Burgundyglo 4000 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/152943690902). $4,495 BIN
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/11494.jpg)
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'73 fretless (https://reverb.com/item/6910340). Toaster, Plexi TRC, wavy Grovers, but plain binding. $3,195
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--K2nBMkFv--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1508441897/htdxqui3x3qshjqmz8md.jpg)
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Midnight Blue v63 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/132548626673). $4,005 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/X9AAAOSwLNVatLJ1/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/I-YAAOSwacVatLJ3/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QooAAOSwWiNatLJ2/s-l500.jpg)
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Beautiful color. Overly optimistic seller. Only two v63s recently sold on eBay went for $2525 (turquoise, from Japan) and $1627 (MG, from USA).
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Generally not into modifying but I like this mod (https://www.ebay.com/itm/152987832347). I'm also not big on exotic woods but the burl guard looks good here.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/k~UAAOSwgCtayoVd/s-l1600.jpg)
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Ugh. The guard isn't that bad, the Hipshot bridge is okay, but turning a 4003 into a 4000 and replacing the logo TRC? No thanks.
You have to wonder about people who make irreversible mods and then turn around and put it up for sale.
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If the original parts were included it would be reversible.
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If the original parts were included it would be reversible.
Maybe, depends on what's under the pickguard. But the parts and the original case aren't included.
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1968 Left-handed 4000/4001S Conversion (https://www.ebay.com/itm/372289988748). $12,600 stating bid.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FJoAAOSw3pZa2WnQ/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hbEAAOSwjIta2U~x/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GW8AAOSw64ha44FX/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ap0AAOSwSXFa44Fm/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Aj0AAOSwkbxa44Fv/s-l500.jpg)
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Torture. Why do they keep selling me defective Lotto tickets?
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Feb. '73 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/162679623633) - cb, gap tooth, crushed pearl inlays, toaster, plexi TRC, wavy Grovers, even has the evil cap... Everything but a horseshoe. $4,495 BIN
Hi-res pics here (http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=162679623633&t=1525702777000&tid=10&category=118984&seller=raretoyzz&excSoj=1&excTrk=1&lsite=0&ittenable=false&domain=ebay.com&descgauge=1&cspheader=1&oneClk=1&secureDesc=0)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/11559a.jpg)
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Very nice...
Noticed this at the bottom of the page... 1967 4005 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Rickenbacker-4005-Bass-Ultra-Rare-And-Near-Mint-Condition/162679617006?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51915%26meid%3D1fcc8b0ee42d49248ca4b3a039add209%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162679623633%26itm%3D162679617006&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982) ... pricey though...?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ttoAAOSwSzdXBry3/s-l1600.jpg)
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$11K, with 4005's you never know, someone may actually pay this. I would have thought $4-5K.
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Feb. '73 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/162679623633) - cb, gap tooth, crushed pearl inlays, toaster, plexi TRC, wavy Grovers, even has the evil cap... Everything but a horseshoe. $4,495 BIN
That's just about the last with all the "desirable features." In short order, the crushed pearl inlays went away. The "horseshoe" pickup in the treble/bridge position went away in 1968.
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And almost needless to say, beautiful gradual application of the cherry burst AKA Fireglo. Not a clown in sight.
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New S/5 MkII (https://reverb.com/item/12602250) on Reverb. If you're into these things. $2,299
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--F6rvuOvZ--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1527375699/etquwbjam4dyyclgmvbg.jpg)
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2060 El Dorado (https://reverb.com/item/12978365), $1,750
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--6R2-7IWV--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1528342679/ojwb8fnhnv5go3o3cjib.jpg)
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I've never played a bolt-on Ric before. I'd like to check out a 2000 or 3000 series some day.
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The Reverb listing mistakenly calls this a 6020. Dyslexic I someone say is. :o
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I've never played a bolt-on Ric before. I'd like to check out a 2000 or 3000 series some day.
The 2030GF I had was the meanest, in a good way, Rick bass I've had, and the neck was very early '70s like in feel. :)
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New S/5 MkII (https://reverb.com/item/12602250) on Reverb. If you're into these things. $2,299
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--F6rvuOvZ--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1527375699/etquwbjam4dyyclgmvbg.jpg)
In what respect do you mean by: "If you're into these things"?
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In what respect do you mean by: "If you're into these things"?
You'd have to be into 5-string basses, the idea of a 5-string Ric, and the odd look of those pickups. None of those ideas appeal to me, but at least they're testing the market again after all these years. If they don't sell, the critics won't have cause to complain, even though a certain person will.
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'72 neck-thru 4000 in White (https://www.ebay.com/itm/202337383536). How cool is that. I mean picture it with a white guard and Ric knobs... wow. GBP 1,599 ($2,144) BIN.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P1kAAOSwxUtbG8wU/s-l1600.jpg)
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That refin is looking shabby in places but seems reasonably priced for the UK.
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Since it's been refinished there's nothing to lose with a new paint job. I'd go with BlueBoy with a clear guard back-sprayed with aged white to match the plexi TRC. And a reissue horseshoe, they are awesome.
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That refin is looking shabby in places but seems reasonably priced for the UK.
Which doesn't say much about the used prices, here! That 4000 is shagged, and needs a lot of work. The refin looks crude, as does the black pickguard (with missing screw!). The missing finish up by the nut didn't just happen out of thin air! There is probably something wrong at that point, due to somebody cranking away on the truss rods. The same geezer who put the P bass knobs on there. :o
Money no object I would pay somebody to build me a Chris Squire or 4001S replica from this sorry thing.
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Since it's been refinished there's nothing to lose with a new paint job. I'd go with BlueBoy with a clear guard back-sprayed with aged white to match the plexi TRC. And a reissue horseshoe, they are awesome.
Has Ric put out a real reissue horseshoe recently or are you talking about the one that's been out for years?
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Has Ric put out a real reissue horseshoe recently or are you talking about the one that's been out for years?
The standard reissue, with the non-magnetic horseshoes. Sure it's not a true replica of the originals and historically incorrect but I like it a lot.
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Technically not a bass but you know... it's half the 4080 so it can go here and not the guitar section.
One-off 480 in pearl white (http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/480-PEARL-WHITE_p_773.html), ebony board, checkerboard binding including bound 620 gumby headstock (original ones had the cresting wave shape. imho the gumby is better), and generally redesigned and better looking than old 480's. This one is neck-thru like the basses. Mirror guard, and get this - MIRROR INLAYS. $3,599 through the Ric boutique.
They finally got the 480 right.
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A very yellowed '87 4003SPC Tuxedo (https://reverb.com/item/12262710-rickenbacker-4003s-tuxedo-bass-1987-tuxedo) ($3,299) and '89 Blackstar (https://reverb.com/item/11866523-rickenbacker-blackstar-1989-black) ($4,000) on Reverb.
They seem less sought-after than ten years ago. Maybe all the Ric collectors who want an SPC have already bought one.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--EXR1cLQo--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1526684958/qxhhxeigw9kkycmazlwu.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--0Qt0K-hk--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1525222324/mvufqfdcbj1dutlqj7z3.jpg)
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CME WAL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183290301666) on eBay. $2,499 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eJcAAOSwwvtbL-He/s-l1600.jpg)
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That 480 is awesome. Mirror inlays - WOW!
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Way too optimistic on the pricing. By $1000 on each at a minimum.
A very yellowed '87 4003SPC Tuxedo (https://reverb.com/item/12262710-rickenbacker-4003s-tuxedo-bass-1987-tuxedo) ($3,299) and '89 Blackstar (https://reverb.com/item/11866523-rickenbacker-blackstar-1989-black) ($4,000) on Reverb.
They seem less sought-after than ten years ago. Maybe all the Ric collectors who want an SPC have already bought one.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--EXR1cLQo--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1526684958/qxhhxeigw9kkycmazlwu.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--0Qt0K-hk--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1525222324/mvufqfdcbj1dutlqj7z3.jpg)
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Most Ric aficionados won't consider the Duncan pickup on the Tuxedo an "upgrade". It's easily replaced but it wouldn't be original and should detract from the value. The Blackstar's condition, doesn't qualify as Very Good, IMHO. Prices of both do seem high, but I haven't followed what these have been selling for in recent years.
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I get the impression that with all the limited runs and one-offs, some of them really beautiful, the past singularity and collectibility of the SPCs was diluted. And they don't age very well (especially the Tux).
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Most Ric aficionados won't consider the Duncan pickup on the Tuxedo an "upgrade". It's easily replaced but it wouldn't be original and should detract from the value. The Blackstar's condition, doesn't qualify as Very Good, IMHO. Prices of both do seem high, but I haven't followed what these have been selling for in recent years.
Speaking from direct experience, a few Blackstars traded in the $2700-2800 range in the last two years. And though fewer were made, Tuxes change hands for at least $600 less.
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Oct. '67 4001 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283044678904). It's a classic. THE classic as far as Rics go.
Seller says he's from Bristol, TN but the shipping says "Economy SpeedPAK from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan". So that's a red light.
Plus, a bass like that starting at $0.99 with no reserve, that's another red light and sirens going off as well. And $15 int'l shipping?
Too good to be true, so I think it probably isn't.
But a nice pic to look at, right?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wp4AAOSwtrJbQKRL/s-l1600.jpg)
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It's gone. Probably a scammer who swiped an old listing.
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The exact same scam crops up with vintage cars as well. All sorts of minty cars appear for £0.99, no reserve. A few people over on the 'Piston Heads' forum have stories of what happens when you 'win' one of these cars.
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SILVER (https://www.ebay.com/itm/173420766285)! When was the last time you saw one for sale? $2,499 BIN
Greenish as they all are now, but imho nicer than when new.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bK8AAOSwqQBbUabN/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hVcAAOSwnQFbUabb/s-l1600.jpg)
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Yes, it's cool looking. On my screen it's almost like the color on an old Gretsch guitar.
But what really struck me in the ad was how good the photographs are.
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Want!
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Oooh! Silver Machine! First time I've seen one.
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Needs a black pickguard and TRC. I almost bought a silver 4003 back around 2000. Had white binding and a mirror pickguard.
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It's a rare "reverse trim" Silver as that color came standard with black binding, plastic, and blackened hardware. Don't see many Silver with the white/chrome trim cause that cost extra at the time. Silver was available from 1985 to 1989. The same silver paint formed the base coat for the early two-part Ruby and Midnight blue - silver overcoated with translucent red or blue, like Kandy Kolors.
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It's a rare "reverse trim" Silver as that color came standard with black binding, plastic, and blackened hardware. Don't see many Silver with the white/chrome trim cause that cost extra at the time. Silver was available from 1985 to 1989. The same silver paint formed the base coat for the early two-part Ruby and Midnight blue - silver overcoated with translucent red or blue, like Kandy Kolors.
The weird part is, the binding is black.
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Oh, right. Duh. Some owner along the way swapped out all the hardware and plastic. Not bad looking, though.
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Feb. 1971 Fireglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/263854097550). $4,799 BIN
Ser #KB064.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0PMAAOSw1CRbYz2s/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hSgAAOSwOD9bYz51/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gIsAAOSw1d9bYz3L/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qawAAOSwyCNbYz5J/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bFYAAOSwBWJbYz2d/s-l1600.jpg)
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Very nice looking for a Fireglo and looks in great shape.
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Late '73 faded Burgundyglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183363937196). $3,529 BIN. Has a hole in the heel where a Lemmy-style strap button once was.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YmEAAOSwHp5baF~A/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mMAAAOSw2vdbaF~C/s-l1600.jpg)
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Apr. '73 original fretless JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/372398138766) from Olivia's - checkerboard, toaster, gap tooth bridge - $3,290 BIN
(https://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/vintagerickenbacker/73r4001fretlessjetglo81018/large/_MG_5560.JPG)(https://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/vintagerickenbacker/73r4001fretlessjetglo81018/large/_MG_5550.JPG)(https://photos.imageevent.com/olivias/vintagerickenbacker/73r4001fretlessjetglo81018/large/_MG_5563.JPG)
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A Japan-only Limited 4001s Special Satin Mapleglo.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Electric-Bass-Limited-4001s-Special-Satin-Mapleglo-NEW/253787212276?epid=22021983394&hash=item3b16e589f4:g:6gcAAOSwEN9bX8pn (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-Electric-Bass-Limited-4001s-Special-Satin-Mapleglo-NEW/253787212276?epid=22021983394&hash=item3b16e589f4:g:6gcAAOSwEN9bX8pn)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zPkAAOSw66NbX8pn/s-l1600.jpg)
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I'm generally not a fan of MapleGlo, but that's a good looking bass.
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I'm generally not a fan of MapleGlo, but that's a good looking bass.
MG looks best without binding imho.
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If it doesn't "glo" then it can't really be mapleglo, can it? It's nice but I wouln't pay more for a satin finish.
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1982 Rickenbacker 4003S
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If it doesn't "glo" then it can't really be mapleglo, can it?
Santa Ana logic is sometimes challenging. Autumnglo is matte. The same color in high gloss is Walnut, no -glo suffix.
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Santa Ana logic is sometimes challenging. Autumnglo is matte. The same color in high gloss is Walnut, no -glo suffix.
That's an oddity, though, and AFAIK matte Autumnglo was never priced higher.
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The satin MG was a very limited run for the Japanese market and was essentially the return of the v63, at the time when the only other vintage reissue you could buy was the C64 with its unfortunate upside-down headstock. So I guess you paid premium for the rightie headstock, not the matte finish. BTW natural finishes justify a premium because you can't hide anything with natural.
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MG looks best without binding imho.
Never thought of that. Maybe that's it. I also kind of like the ones with black trim.
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..... BTW natural finishes justify a premium because you can't hide anything with natural.
Tell that to Gibson!
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Big bad Glueglo 4001 from 1972 on Reverb. I feel like I posted this one before?
https://reverb.com/item/11196982-rickenbacker-4001-1972-mapleglo (https://reverb.com/item/11196982-rickenbacker-4001-1972-mapleglo)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/kue3wekmgetmpmu8ip6q.jpg)
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Wow that's a serious Glueburst. Here's another Glueboy (Midnight Glue?) (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183378581903) - '71 - $5,815 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7EcAAOSw~aBauZyL/s-l500.jpg)
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Midnight Glue?
;D ;D ;D
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An original (i.e. NOT a Jeff Rath mod) 2001 4003S/5 Mid Blue (https://reverb.com/item/14565188-rickenbacker-4003s-5-string-blue-2001) for a very reasonable $3,000 price tag.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--fUfzex0z--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1534791338/ycsuwzhdiwpdit8zo60b.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--gftp9LQB--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1534791346/gyvmcv5hxj6whpjg5dle.jpg)
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Of course it's not a Jeff Rath mod. It looks normal.
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Fantastic birdseye on this Aug. 1968 (exactly 50 years old) FG 4005 (https://www.ebay.com/itm//292714867059). $11,999 BIN
And one of the best applications of Fireglo I've seen.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VnoAAOSwXIhbkXoC/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QXAAAOSwI6xbkXoE/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zKEAAOSw~91bkXoB/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/c4EAAOSwucxbkXoC/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/B8wAAOSwOgRbkXoB/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~ggAAOSwSj9bkXoB/s-l1600.jpg)
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I'll never like Fireglo but that's a nice one, and with that birdseye, might sell at the asking price.
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I'll never like Fireglo
Me too! And Fender Sienna burst and Gibson Cherry burst and all other names for the same orangey not-really-dark-around-the-edges bursts. Glad we can say it here... there are places where you can get blocked for posting this ;-)
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The '01 Mid Blue S/5 from 4 posts up was sold for $3K and now, 9 days later, is offered for $3.5K. But this time with much better pics (https://www.ebay.com/itm/273448889741). Yes it's the same one (fretboard grain pattern).
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The '01 Mid Blue S/5 from 4 posts up was sold for $3K and now, 9 days later, is offered for $3.5K. But this time with much better pics (https://www.ebay.com/itm/273448889741). Yes it's the same one (fretboard grain pattern).
Gemini pickups are an upgrade? If their YT demos are accurate, I consider them a downgrade.
I should have bought that $500 90s 4003s/5 at Guitar Center 20 years ago. Didn't need a 5er, thought the string spacing made it way too hard for fingerstyle anyway. If I could only have foreseen future demand, I would have stored it away.
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Original pickups are included.
If it makes you feel any better, I once passed on a refinished horseshoe-era 4000 and bought a '78 Fender Musicmaster instead. They were both $300 iirc.
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Original pickups are included.
If it makes you feel any better, I once passed on a refinished horseshoe-era 4000 and bought a '78 Fender Musicmaster instead. They were both $300 iirc.
I did see that the originals were included. I just found it amusing that the seller described the Geminis as an upgrade.
Only replacement pickup I'd consider an upgrade is Nordstrand's new Nordenbocker neck pickup. Nails the Ric tone (IMHO) with more output and clarity when soloed, and it's RW/RP to the bridge pickup, unlike the stock neck pickup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMoAY_6kOk
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If you need more output from the stock neck pickup, I like Ted Staberow's simple trick - a neodymium bar magnet (https://www.ebay.com/itm/351006218848) under the pickup turns it into a monster.
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If you need more output from the stock neck pickup, I like Ted Staberow's simple trick - a neodymium bar magnet (https://www.ebay.com/itm/351006218848) under the pickup turns it into a monster.
That's interesting! If I buy the lot of 5, does that mean I have to buy 4 more Rics so I can put them all to good use? :mrgreen:
I keep both pickups on so I don't really need more output, but I might try that anyway.
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That's what I found on eBay in a quick search but you might want to look for a thinner magnet. The neck pickup rout is shallow, make sure you have enough room to fit the magnet.
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That's interesting! If I buy the lot of 5, does that mean I have to buy 4 more Rics so I can put them all to good use? :mrgreen:
I keep both pickups on so I don't really need more output, but I might try that anyway.
They're only 50 mm., about 2" so you can do both pickups and use the last one to hang your set list from your mic stand.
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They're only 50 mm., about 2" so you can do both pickups and use the last one to hang your set list from your mic stand.
It's a lot of 5. Still two left over. Maybe I could use them for magnetic healing therapy. :mrgreen:
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...Ted Staberow's...
Anybody hear from Ted lately, or ever?
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Not me. He stopped posting years ago and never resurfaced in Ric-related websites, as far as I know.
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I just did a search over at RRF and found a thread where it's mentioned that Ted disappeared sometime after 2011 and had left at least one forum member in the lurch, not finishing a reconstruction project and not responding to the forum member's requests. That's too bad, he knew a lot.
I stopped hanging out at RRF after Paul W. started to dominate the forum. He rubbed me the wrong way from the time he joined b/c he acted personally offended if my opinion was different from his. And then after awhile I didn't have any Rics so I didn't go back.
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The RRF bass forum is dying. There's one reply today, after a week without a single post or reply.
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I feel that the move to Facebook was a major blow to the activity, there.
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That, and the inability to express opinions other than total worship of the product and its manufacturers without being banned. But there were some knowledgeable people there, and the register of course.
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I feel that the move to Facebook was a major blow to the activity, there.
Exactly. I haven't bothered checking in for quite some time. Probably years!
That, and the inability to express opinions other than total worship of the product and its manufacturers without being banned. But there were some knowledgeable people there, and the register of course.
A bit of fanboy-ism for sure. Kind of like a Rush forum. :mrgreen:
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How about this guy (https://www.ebay.com/itm/392123330525) for UK£6,999 ($9,171)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/I0wAAOSw0VZbmjvn/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lvIAAOSwMudbmjvd/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/K3MAAOSw8b9bmjvh/s-l1600.jpg)
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^^^
GBP 6,999.00 for a copy? How about NO? And that tort guard... :puke:
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Not really a copy as Ric never made such model, but it's interesting. They went further than Ric ever did with a multi-string bass. They actually made a 6-string version of the classic tailpiece/bridge instead of hacking 4-string tailpieces with a Dremel like RIC did (and later redesigned it into the current S/5) and designed a wide neck instead of cramping 5 strings in a 4-string width neck.
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Still a Ric copy even though it's not a copy of an existing or former Ric model.
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I've seen one of these before. I dig it. But I don't know why they went to the trouble of reproducing that clumsy old bridge/tailpiece in 6 string form. Price is nuts.
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At least they didn't have to make a special treble pickup surround and cover/handrest. Ric's standard part can accommodate 6 wide-spaced strings.
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4003 Shadow, Sept. '86 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/202439297771), $3,200 BIN. Also on Reverb (https://reverb.com/item/15125522-rickenbacker-shadow-1986-black).
Serial # ZI 2541 (Mine is very close - ZI 2528)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/M0YAAOSwSSNbnqpO/s-l1600.jpg)
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I like this mod (https://www.ebay.com/itm/173543188590). Recent 4003 JG modded to look like a '68 - with wavy Grovers, Plexi 4001 TRC, crushed pearl wide inlays, checkerboard binding, wide pickguard, Plexi tug bar, toaster at 1/2", and gap tooth tailpiece. All this plus a neck that can handle modern strings. $2,586 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/F1EAAOSwyMhboCCI/s-l1600.jpg)
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From the photos it looks very well done, but mods like these almost never increase the value. OTOH it's not out of line with other eBay asking prices on guitars and basses from Japan. Somebody might bite.
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Nicely done, and the price seems reasonable if you REALLY want something like that.
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Nicely done, and the price seems reasonable if you REALLY want something like that.
Agreed. You need to be a Rick otaku to buy it. It is handsome, but not compelling.
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Agreed. You need to be a Rick otaku to buy it. It is handsome, but not compelling.
I just learned a new word!
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I just learned a new word!
Me, too!
o·ta·ku
noun
plural noun: otaku
(in Japan) a young person who is obsessed with computers or particular aspects of popular culture to the detriment of their social skills.
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CS in Japan. #652/1,000 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/173549002598). $3.6K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TboAAOSwuVtbpdAV/s-l1600.jpg)
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Me, too!
o·ta·ku
noun
plural noun: otaku
(in Japan) a young person who is obsessed with computers or particular aspects of popular culture to the detriment of their social skills.
Well, this description fits just about anyone who has a cell phone and can't put it down for two seconds to do something that might require both hands to do.
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REALLY nice FireGlo 4003S from 1995 when the necks were still slim. I think the price is right.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JmMAAOSwimZbmPYM/s-l1600.jpg)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283178203055?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283178203055?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
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Beautiful burst and fretboard grain. Too bad it was still fat horn years.
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Nice figure on the back of the neck.
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Beautiful burst and fretboard grain. Too bad it was still fat horn years.
I like the fat horns. I've got 2. Skinny horns on the CS.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10560374_10203238366978491_4580051113165035022_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&oh=b141d8ae902514f8b7d6f46f22815fc5&oe=5C24699F)
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By 1964 they had the perfect proportions, pickguard shape, everything. All it needed was a neck that doesn't fold under the tension of medium gauge strings. It was a work of art. Why did they have to mess with it? Everybody did weird stuff in the 70's and 80's, but one thing Gibson and Fender never did even back then was mess with the classic shape.
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By 1964 they had the perfect proportions, pickguard shape, everything. All it needed was a neck that doesn't fold under the tension of medium gauge strings. It was a work of art. Why did they have to mess with it? Everybody did weird stuff in the 70's and 80's, but one thing Gibson and Fender never did even back then was mess with the classic shape.
But they did! Gibson had the most gorgeous line of solidbodies in 1965. Both sg guitars and eb basses. Then they first narrowed the neck/nutwidt, and by early 70's they made the body bigger and dropped the stylish bevelling...
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A really nice '98 S/5 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283197543288). $3,599 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FKwAAOSw43JbuOf2/s-l1600.jpg)
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Nice but that price is insane.
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That's how I like them. Pre-'73 with yellowed binding and played to death.
A perfect 1972 4001 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/132833929496). $3,790 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SiUAAOSw22lb0glp/s-l1600.jpg)
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1972 Lefty Burgundyglo 4001 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/362498783684). GBP 3,500 ($4,466) BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p5QAAOSwQrVb2aE2/s-l1600.jpg)
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Pretty! I wonder who the "authorized Rickenbacker luthier" was. Paul W.?
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I wonder who the "authorized Rickenbacker luthier" was. Paul W.?
...refinished in the correct 'eggplant' burgundyglo finish by an authorised Rickenbacker luthier in Los Angeles in 2005/6
Most likely, not. PW is not in L.A. He lives and works about 400 miles north of there.
I see this bass has a modern, thicker profile pickup cover, so that is not original to the bass, certainly.
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Okay here's one of the coolest ever to be posted here.
June 1984 4002FL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/123526264807), WAL, birdeye. $6,500 BIN.
One of only 2 known 4002FL's - the other one is Ginger Lee Seaboyer's '82 4002FL.
This one is probably Bill Stoner's bass.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/W6MAAOSwrpJcBsdT/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ueQAAOSwsqdcBsdR/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3PAAAOSwNTNcBsdR/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cEYAAOSwAzxcBsdS/s-l1600.jpg)
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They picked some tidy maple for the 4002 basses. 8)
I had a deep dive on Reverb today, and made a few interesting discoveries:
A 1970 4001 that is has an unusual and undisclosed mod. No prizes for spotting it.
https://reverb.com/item/13665809-rickenbacker-4001-1970-mapleglo (https://reverb.com/item/13665809-rickenbacker-4001-1970-mapleglo)
A very gluey beastie from 1972, playing in traffic:
https://reverb.com/item/15713603-rickenbacker-4001-1972-natural (https://reverb.com/item/15713603-rickenbacker-4001-1972-natural)
A reasonably clean Chris Squire sig with an unusual orange discolouration:
https://reverb.com/item/16546336-rickenbacker-4001-cs-chris-squire-1991 (https://reverb.com/item/16546336-rickenbacker-4001-cs-chris-squire-1991)
For UK bassists with deep pockets, there is a clean-looking Chris Squire sig for sale on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2097526766970694/ (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2097526766970694/)
£3000 seems a reasonable asking price (you can pay most of that for a 4001V64) and the Squire basses are quite rare in the UK. The seller is in Wales, and it looks like the lack of sunlight typical of Wales has helped keep the finish cream, rather than the nuclear yellow these sometimes go.
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June 1984 4002FL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/123526264807), WAL, birdeye. $6,500 BIN.
Well that didn't last long. "This listing was ended by the seller."
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A 1970 4001 that is has an unusual and undisclosed mod. No prizes for spotting it.
The switch tip, right? ;D
The guy with the CS with discoloured and checked finish and cracked pickguard is dreaming at that price.
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The guy with the CS with discoloured and checked finish and cracked pickguard is dreaming at that price.
I wonder if he was tightening up the switch one day and heard a little 'clink'?
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--3okCfc5Q--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1541157764/x4zafpe3wj0w4uhzhgfy.jpg)
Building a pickguard from thin acrylic plastic seems a wee bit daft. It doesn't have any give to it. I built a couple for different basses and the stuff cracks if you don't perfectly countersink the screw holes.
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Building a pickguard from thin acrylic plastic seems a wee bit daft.
It is a bit daft, but not unique to the CS signature. All Ric pickguards except for the 4002 are made of acrylic sheet.
The first 4000 Series guards were back-painted clear acrylic, as were the RCA 4004s and the 75th Anniversary guards. Pre-'75 TRC's were also back-painted Plexiglas. Even some of the white Plexi guards are back-painted - when the white acrylic is slightly transparent.
I also don't like that the white guards don't age when the white binding and inlays are already ambered. Back-painted white guards (and TRC's) at least age nicely.
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The cracks around the switch were probably caused by impact, maybe a faceplant of the instrument. The toggle is the highest point on the face of the Rick, so the first to make contact with an "opposing surface." :-\
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1987 S/5 FL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283348004827)! $4,850 BIN (+Make Offer option)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6J4AAOSwr~9cRjQk/s-l1600.jpg)
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Beautiful!
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Wow, nice. I think the tight string spacing might not be so bothersome on a fretless. Rick-O-Sound too, which is very rare for an S.
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That's the Midnight Blue 4003S/5FL that is featured in the Second Edition of the book! A vendor a few years ago had this one and a Red one (not Fireglo, but Red). The pair could be the sum total of 4003S/5FL made!?
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That's the Midnight Blue 4003S/5FL that is featured in the Second Edition of the book! A vendor a few years ago had this one and a Red one (not Fireglo, but Red). The pair could be the sum total of 4003S/5FL made!?
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--7ehbvz-T--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1471474266/ucx3s1z9jtzhfxgashjj.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--rf2c9dB6--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_1600,q_80,w_1600/v1471474336/uce5lk2l5lr4i7cxgckt.jpg)
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Uh, yep! That's the one! :)
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Mani's (Stone Roses) 1974 4005 JG (https://reverb.com/item/19410957). $9,192
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--tCMABs-o--/f_auto,t_large/v1550232538/ktnjuznbybdrrvqui6db.jpg)
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might be his, but prob not his main one, when I saw them it was all stickers and road rash
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I had never heard of them until Chris P. mentioned them years ago. The celebrity value would probably mean little or nothing here.
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I had never heard of them until Chris P. mentioned them years ago
I first became aware of them in 1991, in Tony Bacon and Paul Day's The Ultimate Guitar Book - a Burg 4005 that I thought was really beautiful. A few years later I actually got to play one and was underwhelmed.
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Great looking basses, but I've read mixed reviews of the tone. Geddy Lee played one for one song on the final RUSH tour, and it was easily the least impressive of the 19 or so basses he played that night. Kind of "tubby" sounding.
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I thought it sounded thin, not very acoustic-y, and the large body with the long-scale neck makes it a lot less comfortable than a 4001. The bridge pickup, as expected, was useless solo'ed.
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I have always considered that body to be the best looking Ric bass out there.
I have also come to realize that the best looking does not equal the best sounding by any stretch.
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Great looking basses, but I've read mixed reviews of the tone. Geddy Lee played one for one song on the final RUSH tour, and it was easily the least impressive of the 19 or so basses he played that night. Kind of "tubby" sounding.
I've got recordings of my old '67 4005WB that would very much belie that statement.
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I first became aware of them when I traded my late '60s Jazz Bass for one, not knowing exactly what it was, then not sold it until 2011. Worked quite well for my purposes.
Ilan, here's a photo of your countryman playing it.
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Jeff, you know that Gil owns one too... a '67 Fireglo. Four years ago I had the honour of shunting its cap.
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Most Rics just look "OK, nice..." to me, but that body style and color are off the charts. Gorgeous!
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Jeff, you know that Gil owns one too... a '67 Fireglo. Four years ago I had the honour of shunting its cap.
Yeah, I remember when he got it; he was looking for one for quite awhile, IIRC.
The wiring harness on mine never had (or it was modded) the .0047µF cap so I have no experience with a 4005 that has/had one. Mine also had a ROS jack where the 5th knob would normally be. I hope that Paul Wilczynski did not alter that when he "restored" the bass for its current owner as it looked original to the bass.
Something I have noticed is that a standard 4005 is considerably heavier than the WB version. IMO+E, that does affect tonality.
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Just a carcass (courtesy of your friendly neighborhood butcher, gibsondependable), but it's potentially cool so I'm posting it here.
2002 Desert Gold 4003S/8 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/352614433343). $1,200 starting bid.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C4wAAOSwNIpcbGiR/s-l500.jpg)
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It's been slaughtered and the seller is parting it out (there's also a 2030 there):
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=gibsondependable&item=352614433343&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=rickenbacker&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=gibsondependable&item=352614433343&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=rickenbacker&_sacat=0)
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That must be the one that just sold for $1800. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-8-string-bass-Project-/264187088470?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-4003-8-string-bass-Project-/264187088470?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true)
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I wonder if the neck issue is as simple as the seller says, given what the original seller disclosed. Also, remember Uwe's neck problems with his 8-string, IIRC it was improved but it's never been right.
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A very clean Shadow (https://www.ebay.com/itm/153428543653) at Olivia's. $4,190 BIN price. Looks near mint. The serial number is ZI so Sep. '86, like mine.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oJgAAOSwroJcmSkX/s-l1600.jpg)
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Already gone, "item is no longer available." Could have sold on Reverb or direct.
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For this price? Cool.
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1986 JG/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/133024889055) - the almost-Shadow. Even the same birth year as the Shadows. $2,590 BIN
I have no idea why it has the 2-piece 1982 pickguard from the last of the hairpin truss rods adjusted at the pickup rout era. 1986 is the newer style compression rods. If the guard is non original, then there's at least one extra screw hole in the bass.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8lkAAOSwo8NctnZh/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3b4AAOSwG8ZctnZc/s-l1600.jpg)
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1992 2030GF (https://www.ebay.com/itm/192898195299) Glenn Frey signature bass in Japan. $3,962 BIN + $195 shipping.
A little beat up, this bass was not a case queen.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5JYAAOSwizpcwbZD/s-l1600.jpg)
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There are 7 listings (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Rickenbacker+2030+Glenn+Frey&_sacat=0) for the same bass from 4 different Japanese eBay sellers. Another one of those deals where if you BIN they will try to buy it from the brick-and-mortar merchant who actually has possession of the bass.
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There are 7 listings (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Rickenbacker+2030+Glenn+Frey&_sacat=0) for the same bass from 4 different Japanese eBay sellers. Another one of those deals where if you BIN they will try to buy it from the brick-and-mortar merchant who actually has possession of the bass.
So that's how it works?
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So that's how it works?
Yes. None of them has possession of the bass, which I think is still against eBay rules. It's for sale somewhere local at a lower price.
Sometimes the listing will have a disclaimer, e.g. the listing by far.east.man (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-2030-Glenn-Frey-Sig-JG/183766880281?hash=item2ac95c1019:g:tHEAAOSwJj1cq5P7) says "Could you contact us before buying items? We will check if we have it in stock."
While all the sellers have good feedback overall, check the the negative feedback. For instance, most of the negative feedback for far.east.man is due to selling an item he didn't have.
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Just a 1997 Jetglo 4003 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264330767402) - fat horn era - with a Pickguardian (https://www.pickguardian.com/) replacement pg. But I really like this guard. What do you think?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3QcAAOSwYCdc4ywM/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zTEAAOSwbYdc4yv5/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hwwAAOSwJ9dc4yw6/s-l1600.jpg)
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2019 Jetglo Pearlstars (https://www.ebay.com/itm/133054170026), maple board. $2,790 BIN
One of their coolest limited run finishes.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/34AAAOSwJEtc3Y78/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/afMAAOSwwbxc3Y8W/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WRkAAOSwBQhc3Y8Q/s-l1600.jpg)
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Just a 1997 Jetglo 4003 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264330767402) - fat horn era - with a Pickguardian (https://www.pickguardian.com/) replacement pg. But I really like this guard. What do you think?
I saw that yesterday on facebook. Definitely caught my eye. Not sure that I'd want one for myself, but I do like the pickguard. It's actually a '87. My '89 and '93 are fat horns.
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After annoying my fingers on Sunday, I want to bevel the pickguard on my current Rick.
O l did it before on another bass when I was a more active player. Last Sunday i actually tried to figure out how I could be hurting my fingers, but was left without a clear answer. I need a SLO-MO VIDEO!
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1978 White 4080/12 Gumby headstocks (https://www.ebay.com/itm/163768498382). $3,550 BIN.
Seller says John Hall has confirmed that a few were made with Gumby headstocks.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kJMAAOSwpfNdImzG/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0LgAAOSwudBdIm1y/s-l1600.jpg)
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I won't be surprised if that brings more than 5K.
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I won't be surprised if that brings more than 5K.
If I were in the US I'd hit the $3,550 BIN price and resell for a nice profit.
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If I were in the US I'd hit the $3,550 BIN price and resell for a nice profit.
$3550 is the current bid, not a BIN. Maybe the seller changed it to a starting bid sometime after you first saw it.
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$3550 is the current bid, not a BIN. Maybe the seller changed it to a starting bid sometime after you first saw it.
Yeah, Ilan actually got me thinking about it, bit yes, that's now a bid not a BIN. :-\
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1974 set-neck 4000 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/362702618925), $2,199 BIN (Make Offer option).
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/m4MAAOSwdiFdLwwS/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JF4AAOSwv4tdLwxM/s-l1600.jpg)
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Seems like a decent price.
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1972 FG (https://reverb.com/item/26427033). $3,499 (Make an Offer option)
What can you say... Other than a non-original bridge pickup, she has it all, including the cap. At a price of a same-year Fender Jazz.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--iFiGbws0--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1564033744/p1ieqtyujjub088fzvak.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--mSapl_cw--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1564033754/unvksyzrbcspkscx4kda.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--9VlVtBiI--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1564033854/jhllbm3i5o9h3sjzkyba.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--tq3bEuko--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1564033894/k2rw9hhohbavyoxyocmd.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--IuFP05MS--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1564033882/figw7ufjpx6sitwnfnex.jpg)
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Nice one. Already ended.
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The price was right and someone probably made a good offer and won himself a classic.
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Jim Glen won it.
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Jim Glen won it.
I don't recall that name. Someone from RRF?
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Yep, an old member there, known as a Fireglo fanatic.
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Yep, an old member there, known as a Fireglo fanatic.
Hi All,
New to this Forum, I did indeed win the lovely 1972 shown earlier in this post , I'd previously bought a really nice Mapleglo v63 from the same seller, so I knew he was decent to deal with.
I'm on the hunt for a period correct Bridge Pickup.
And, guilty as charged, I am indeed a Fireglo Fanatic ... I've been playing Rics (mostly Fireglo's), almost exclusively since 1973.
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Great to see you here, Jim.
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Oct. 1986 Shadow (https://www.ebay.com/itm/113868114483), #ZJ2918. $2,900 starting bid (Make Offer option). Not squeaky clean but not abused either.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KrIAAOSwul9dZYAh/s-l1600.jpg)
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This interesting creature was brought to my attention today. Ric design, Fender finish, Gibson pup. :o
https://reverb.com/item/27354405-2004-rickenbacker-4005-see-thru-blonde (https://reverb.com/item/27354405-2004-rickenbacker-4005-see-thru-blonde)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--BlmYTgjK--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1566936437/kky4blxxiot4s6mrttyl.jpg)
Wonder if it's a Dale Fortune creation?
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Could be Dale Fortune. My guess would be Paul Wilczynski.
Good price for what it is.
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My guess would be Paul Wilczynski.
I agree.
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Very interesting. And it's a short scale.
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2017 CieloGlo L.E. (https://www.ebay.com/itm/283596852660) GBP 2,100 (US$2,566) starting bid, Make Offer option.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UIgAAOSwuXtdZsjH/s-l1600.jpg)
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I agree.
I'm not sure it'd be Paul; technically this is not a Rickenbacker bass, it's a one off copy based on a 4005'sh body with a number of non-Rickenbacker parts.
Given Paul's working relationship with Rickenbacker I'm not sure he'd risk that by creating this.
That said, it's a very nice bass and had I saw it I'd have gone after it. There is still room IMHO for a hollow body Ric in the catalogue
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Given Paul's working relationship with Rickenbacker I'm not sure he'd risk that by creating this
IIRC, Paul has not had a working relationship with RIC for several years, now.
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My guess would be Paul Wilczynski.
I forgot to get back on this thread... I had asked Paul if it was his work, and he was VERY clear that it was not. 8)
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I forgot to get back on this thread... I had asked Paul if it was his work, and he was VERY clear that it was not. 8)
Anybody ask Dale if he built them? If he says no, then who did?
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Dale would have been my guess.
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Rumble Seat is a legit outfit, I don't think they would put "crafted by a Rickenbacker luthier" if it wasn't so. If Paul is out, I don't know who else it would be besides Dale.
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Saw some interesting discussion on Facebook last night. It is not Dale's work either. It sounds like this guy bought it, and he was told a pretty tall tale. AND now I can't find the thread. Might have been removed because it's not a real Ric. Long story short - "Sometimes Ric allowed employees to build their own instruments in the shop, and if they were deemed good enough, they would put the Rickenbacker name on them." :rolleyes:
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Saw some interesting discussion on Facebook last night. It is not Dale's work either. It sounds like this guy bought it, and he was told a pretty tall tale. AND now I can't find the thread. Might have been removed because it's not a real Ric. Long story short - "Sometimes Ric allowed employees to build their own instruments in the shop, and if they were deemed good enough, they would put the Rickenbacker name on them." :rolleyes:
Did RIC allow that as late as 2004? I wonder if it's even that old, with a Lollar TBird pickup and what looks like a Hipshot Supertone 2-point.
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RIC does allow employees to experiment with colors and features; sometimes they are for that particular individual to use, or for sale to individuals that are in some way connected to the company. Recently there were three short-scale basses done for an individual. There are some specials made that are featured in the second edition of my book. It's possible – I said possible – that one of these experiments could be turned into a limited production model or a full production model; witness the Al Cisneros signature edition. That could have been started as a one-off; don't know. I don't have any particular info on this 4005ish bass, but it certainly could have been an employee-built instrument.
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@Paul, none of the one-offs and employee guitars that I remember had non-Ric features like T-bird(ish) pickups or a Hipshot bridge. They were always 100% Ric DNA.
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@Paul, none of the one-offs and employee guitars that I remember had non-Ric features like T-bird(ish) pickups or a Hipshot bridge. They were always 100% Ric DNA.
This. I couldn't imagine a Rick coming out of the factory with wnything other than Rick parts on it. However, once past Main Street, anything goes.
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I agree. The specials shown in Paul's 2nd edition are still made with RIC parts.
Maybe the buyer will show up on FB or one of the forums.
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Hmm. But maybe experimenting with "other than RIC parts" has led to the "new" tailpiece on the 4003S/5 and the developed tailpiece on the 4003AC. Development and experiments can go many different routes. But, yeah, this 4005ish bass probably came from an outside craftsman.
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I think the influence for the new bridge/tailpiece may be from RIC's relationship with Schaller. The new bridge looks very much like something Schaller could/would make for RIC.
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I agree. The specials shown in Paul's 2nd edition are still made with RIC parts.
Maybe the buyer will show up on FB or one of the forums.
The buyer was the guy I mentioned earlier whose Facebook post I could no longer find.
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The buyer was the guy I mentioned earlier whose Facebook post I could no longer find.
He must not have known about the origin, unless something was posted about it between the time you saw his post and the time it disappeared.
EDIT: I found the FB post, although I can't figure out how to link it directly. It's an August 28 post by Andrew Gowans to The RickResource Forum Official Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/379271585440277/).
It was bought by Tim Sarter. He posted about it in the FB thread.
I remember Tim from the Pit. He also once owned a Sea Green 4001v63 that he later sold to a member of RRF (this was years ago).
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2002 S/5 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264458124542), neither a Rath conversion nor the strange current model. $3.5K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cS4AAOSw6sZddSMn/s-l1600.jpg)
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He must not have known about the origin, unless something was posted about it between the time you saw his post and the time it disappeared.
EDIT: I found the FB post, although I can't figure out how to link it directly. It's an August 28 post by Andrew Gowans to The RickResource Forum Official Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/379271585440277/).
It was bought by Tim Sarter. He posted about it in the FB thread.
I remember Tim from the Pit. He also once owned a Sea Green 4001v63 that he later sold to a member of RRF (this was years ago).
Ah, thanks, I was looking in the "Rickenbacker Guitars and Basses" group.
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Interesting "surely you're joking" priced ($8,213.81) 1972 4001 on Reverb, full of anomalies:
- It has wider neck pickup spacing found after March-April 73
- Smaller triangular inlays, again post March-April 73
- Not Crushed Pearl or Full Width
- 72 Would have Fulll Width & Crushed Pearl
- The Bridge pickup surround is square cornered
- 72&73's both had rounded corners.
- It does have Chequered Binding
- It does have a Split Bridge
Anyone have any ideas on this ???
https://reverb.com/item/27780406-rickenbacker-4001-stereo-1972
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2002 S/5 FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264458124542), neither a Rath conversion nor the strange current model. $3.5K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cS4AAOSw6sZddSMn/s-l1600.jpg)
A Factory 5 ?, very nice, pricey, but nice.
I've a "Rath 4-5 Conversion" which I'll probably be putting up for sale soon, just can't wrap my head (and fingers) round 5+ string basses, 4-strings, 4-fingers, not a coincidence I think.
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Interesting "surely you're joking" priced ($8,213.81) 1972 4001 on Reverb, full of anomalies:
- It has wider neck pickup spacing found after March-April 73
- Smaller triangular inlays, again post March-April 73
- Not Crushed Pearl or Full Width
- 72 Would have Fulll Width & Crushed Pearl
- The Bridge pickup surround is square cornered
- 72&73's both had rounded corners.
- It does have Chequered Binding
- It does have a Split Bridge
Anyone have any ideas on this ???
https://reverb.com/item/27780406-rickenbacker-4001-stereo-1972
Short inlays and checkerboard binding place it between May-Aug '73.
The 1" spacing started at '75 (actually 74's have wide neck pickup routs to accommodate both 1" and 1/2" spacing, but the stock guards were cut for 1/2"). So it's probably routed under the '75-'77 guard. The clear tug bar is of course new. I've seen original mid-73's with square-corner surrounds, but not with gap-tooth tailpiece.
What about the FG? You're the expert on this Jim. To me it looks darker than a typical mid-70s FG.
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Hi,
I agree with your comments, and, the Fireglo is darker than on my 2 73's and my 72.
In all I've 6 Fireglo Rics, ranging from 1972-4001 through to my 2015-4003s, this one is darker than all of mine, and, just about any other Fireglo I've seen over the years.
That said, John Hall has told me the Fireglo is by far he hardest of all the Rickenbacker colours to try to accurately capture, even for professional photographers, so, this could be just the light and circumstances that the pictures were taken in.
Even though this is darker it is nicely uniform and is well blended, not like the "Clown Glo" examples of the late 90's early 2k's. Since each instrument is colored by hand it produces finished that are not identical which is one of the things I like about Fireglo, and the various "Burst" colours that have been produced over the years, this a testimony to the hand finishing that goes into all Rickenbackers.
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That said, John Hall has told me the Fireglo is by far he hardest of all the Rickenbacker colours to try to accurately capture, even for professional photographers
He used to say that a lot during the clownglo years, and stopped saying it after they moved back to a nice gradual burst (which, to everyone's amazement, is easy to capture on camera).
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Another one-off short scale 4030, this time in Bottle Green (http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/4030-BOTTLE-GREEN_p_784.html), offered through Ric Boutique for $3,199. BT, CB, toasters.
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Thumbs down on that color. Almost as bad as Antigua. Oh well, it will make someone happy.
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-onGuUu7wsIg/TVNN4zxyKvI/AAAAAAAABcU/W2t11NNaccI/s1600/feb9_1.JPG)
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But still, I wonder how many opportunities to own a 4030 there will be...
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Maybe they're testing the waters for a regular issue 4030.
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Thumbs down on that color. Almost as bad as Antigua. Oh well, it will make someone happy.
I like Antigua, at least the recent Mexi version. This green, not so much but the black toasters are cool.
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The finish has a cool* 60s Teisco vibe. But I can't get on board with the bridge/tailpiece in the middle of the body like that. I already dislike those outdated things.
Also not crazy about the multi-ply pickguard.
Interesting that they're advertising it as having "hot toasters". I've got those in the neck position of all 3 of my Rics. Noticeably louder and bassier than the 7.4K scatterwounds.
*YMMV
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But I can't get on board with the bridge/tailpiece in the middle of the body like that.
To me that is the best feature. You get a comfortable and round-sounding short scale bass but the nut and 1st position notes are right where your left arm "remembers" them.
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For $3,199 you'd expect a cleaner job on the bridge.
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The toasters reveal their 6-pole construction.
I do like their layout, with a real bridge-position pickup. I'm curious to hear/play a 4030. In a nicer color and a realistic price tag I'd be tempted to at least consider buying one. Imagine this in BG, with the same 3-ply black guard and cream binding, very Gibson-ish.
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To me that is the best feature. You get a comfortable and round-sounding short scale bass but the nut and 1st position notes are right where your left arm "remembers" them.
If it were a normal Schaller or something, it would be fine. I just think the old school tailpiece looks weird there.
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It does look weird there. That's where you expect a guitar bridge to be, But i do see Ilan's point.
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If it were a normal Schaller or something, it would be fine. I just think the old school tailpiece looks weird there.
A black tailpiece on Jetglo will make it look right.
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March 1979 (listed as 1980) White 4080 (https://reverb.com/item/28223146) in Italy, #TC1171. $18,800
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--Z2A2a7fF--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1569322164/kyggisgdooxo7cckuljl.jpg)
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That seems way overpriced.
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You can buy a red barchetta at that price :mrgreen:
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-onGuUu7wsIg/TVNN4zxyKvI/AAAAAAAABcU/W2t11NNaccI/s1600/feb9_1.JPG)
Perfect. . . .absolutely PERFECT!
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Modified 2013 4004L (https://reverb.com/item/28162316). $2,495
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--hDXny1ig--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1569008380/vgp9dijpft3hrds8pgnz.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--lEeZRp61--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1569008380/zdwtol29ugedtqkvgrs1.jpg)
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The "JPJ" Ric (tribute). Some young guy on one of the Facebook Ric pages did that. The original lives at the Ric factory museum now. I like this one. He's a got one or two Cliff Burton tributes for sale as well.
(http://www.ledzeppelin-reference.com/geekbaseweb/images/photos/46/1128.jpg)
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The body is that of a Cii. Note the walnut sandwich in the control cavity.
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That looks nice, but he's priced it as if it were unmodified. He must be hoping for a JPJ fan.
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If he really wanted to make it look, and sound, more authentic, he should have moved the bridge pickup back to the bridge. I would have done so.
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It always makes me wonder about people who irreversibly mod their basses and guitars then turn around and sell them.
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If he really wanted to make it look, and sound, more authentic, he should have moved the bridge pickup back to the bridge. I would have done so.
True, but that would entail a massive amount of extra work, including a re-fin.
It always makes me wonder about people who irreversibly mod their basses and guitars then turn around and sell them.
I think this guy's intention is to make money doing reproductions. Based on his posts, it doesn't seem like he had any intention of keeping this or the Burton bass.
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True, but that would entail a massive amount of extra work, including a re-fin.
And would result in a thin-sounding, low output and generally useless bridge pickup. If the buyer still wants that sound he can put a J pickup (without the cover) or a Strat pickup inside the mute compartment. I think Bartolini used to make a special pickup to fit there.
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I think this guy's intention is to make money doing reproductions. Based on his posts, it doesn't seem like he had any intention of keeping this or the Burton bass.
If so, I'll be surprised if he's successful.
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I have a hard time seeing he'd make much money out of it. 2595$ for the Cliff Burton tribute will not give him any profit unless he got the bass and parts at bargain prices.
https://reverb.com/item/27951940-rickenbacker-4001-1979-burgundy-cliff-burton-tribute (https://reverb.com/item/27951940-rickenbacker-4001-1979-burgundy-cliff-burton-tribute)
I also found another one from another seller, made the same way but non functional strat pickup for 3595$ . Maybe same origin and someone who really tries to profit off of it?
https://reverb.com/item/27455210-rickenbacker-4001-burgundyglo-cliff-burton-tribute (https://reverb.com/item/27455210-rickenbacker-4001-burgundyglo-cliff-burton-tribute)
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The fact that he went from a Schaller bridge to the old Ric contraption makes my head hurt. ;) 8) Outside of that, I really do dig it, including the existing pickup positioning. I guess what I'm saying is I'd like a 4004 with a teardrop pickguard and toasters.
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'73 Azureglo (https://reverb.com/item/27075250) with checkerboard binding. $3,200
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--e7F857Xo--/f_auto,t_large/v1566159245/lxennzski4xf5hwqj0cb.jpg)
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Beauty!
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/163927989141 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/163927989141)
Auction, not BIN. Really interesting, these early ones with the magnetized HS PU
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Same as the original horseshoe pickups?
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Yes. But the 7-screw gap tooth tailpiece isn't very 1963.
Interesting to see what it will sell for.
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'87 4003SPC Tuxedo refin (https://www.ebay.com/itm/352842157186). Some would actually prefer this over an original yellowed Tux.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TGUAAOSwijBdvuV4/s-l1600.jpg)
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'87 4003SPC Tuxedo refin (https://www.ebay.com/itm/352842157186). Some would actually prefer this over an original yellowed Tux.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TGUAAOSwijBdvuV4/s-l1600.jpg)
"Some" meaning "Me". ;D
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Same here. A yellowed Tux wouldn't appeal to me.
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I was wondering if it was the one I had refined some years ago, but it aint.
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2001 S/8 in Desert Gold (https://www.ebay.com/itm/264532116595) (Color of the Year). $3,500 BIN
Looks very clean.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4QwAAOSwlXddzEVq/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/azEAAOSwJD5dzEV-/s-l1600.jpg)
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Wish i had kept my Desert Gold 4003, just for its looks. Neck was too big for me, though.
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I was THIS CLOSE to buying a new DG 8 string from Pick of the Ricks back in 2001, but then found out my wife was pregnant and decided it was not a good time for an expensive new bass. 7 years later, I was rolling in cover band cash and bought the used '93 FG I have now. That one looks really nice. Kind of pricey, but looks like it sold.
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1985 lefty V63 (FG?) on CL.
No good images, seems the poster can only get one photo to stick to the ad or something...and that photo is of the S/N, YK2067
https://racine.craigslist.org/msg/d/cincinnati-4-string-bass-guitar/7012247167.html
Not cheap, and supposedly sports a CS autograph(!). But an early, lefty V63, I think I never seen before, so cool one regardless
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1985 lefty V63 (FG?) on CL.
No good images, seems the poster can only get one photo to stick to the ad or something...and that photo is of the S/N, YK2067
https://racine.craigslist.org/msg/d/cincinnati-4-string-bass-guitar/7012247167.html
Not cheap, and supposedly sports a CS autograph(!). But an early, lefty V63, I think I never seen before, so cool one regardless
No brand name and $400 price in the header ?
make / manufacturer: dinkleacker?
Could be legit, but even if the ad is being trolled, that wouldn't prevent him from posting photos. I'm suspicious.
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No brand name and $400 price in the header ?
make / manufacturer: dinkleacker?
Could be legit, but even if the ad is being trolled, that wouldn't prevent him from posting photos. I'm suspicious.
I agree, it definitely raises questions
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Here's some info on that bass that I dug up.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/viewitem.php?id=58789&bl=%2Fregister%2Findex.php%3Fsearch%3Dtrue%26model%3D0%26strings%3D0%26special%3D0%26finish%3D0%26def_state%3D%26country%3D%26year%3D%26month%3D%26sn%3DYK%2B2067%26celebrity%3D (http://www.rickresource.com/register/viewitem.php?id=58789&bl=%2Fregister%2Findex.php%3Fsearch%3Dtrue%26model%3D0%26strings%3D0%26special%3D0%26finish%3D0%26def_state%3D%26country%3D%26year%3D%26month%3D%26sn%3DYK%2B2067%26celebrity%3D)
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Yep, questionable. I've seen both righty and lefty headstocks on lefty v63's, but never a downward-pointing TRC on a reverse headstock. No horseshoe magnets. Incorrect 1" neck pickup spacing. 7-screw tailpiece - also wrong, and the gap tooth looks off. Signs of body wing delamination. I don't know what to make of it.
Larger pics on Reverb (https://reverb.com/item/24619364).
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Now I can see why the Craigslist ad is being trolled. The lister is in Reading, PA but the seller on Reverb is Gear Emporium in Cincinnati, over 500 miles away.
The Reverb seller is probably an individual, joined May 2019, two listings and no feedback, but at least he has photos. Legit or not, my guess is that the bass is in his possession, and that the Craigslist lister is attempting a scam.
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Now I can see why the Craigslist ad is being trolled. The lister is in Reading, PA but the seller on Reverb is Gear Emporium in Cincinnati, over 500 miles away.
The Reverb seller is probably an individual, joined May 2019, two listings and no feedback, but at least he has photos. Legit or not, my guess is that the bass is in his possession, and that the Craigslist lister is attempting a scam.
Sounds plausible - nice catch!
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1994 Left handed S/5 Turquoise (https://www.ebay.com/itm/274112932924) in beautiful condition. $4,499 BIN
(https://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchimp/1994lefthandedrickenbacker4003s55/websize/IMG_4199.jpg)
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WOW! Wish I had a picture of that one for the book. :P Price is high, but it has three high-value options: Lefty; fiver; Turquoise. Rare combination and a lovely instrument!
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Another one-off short scale 4030, this time in Bottle Green (http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/4030-BOTTLE-GREEN_p_784.html), offered through Ric Boutique for $3,199. BT, CB, toasters.
Two and a half months later it's still there, unsold.
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Two and a half months later it's still there, unsold.
Actually, I believe it sold within the first day, or even hour. Rickenbacker Farm is the keeper of it now. Weird that it is still up on the site
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Actually, I believe it sold within the first day, or even hour. Rickenbacker Farm is the keeper of it now. Weird that it is still up on the site
At least it says only one made and availability: out of stock
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At least it says only one made and availability: out of stock
I had a blond moment and missed that.
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1974 4000 Burgundyglo (https://reverb.com/item/31047946) in the Netherlands. What a beauty. $2,502
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--s5oqLJjf--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1578183882/vhfonajiv7ubwnwvln5n.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--ddudEx9v--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1578183915/yidhxlnes3lbucuebhuy.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--2JWTJKSh--/f_auto,t_large/v1578184063/qzglzawbxqo5abxecaan.jpg)
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A nice example of the set-neck 4000, built that way from sometime in 1972 through the early '80s. This chassis was common to the 4001S during that period as well.
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1983 non-S 4003/8 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174168355665). $3,975 BIN
Bound body and neck, sharkfin inlays. Octave strings on top. Very unusual. I'm not sure I've seen another one like this.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PdsAAOSw6INeKyeN/s-l1600.jpg)
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1982 White 4001 w/checkerboard binding (https://www.ebay.com/itm/184141408004). BIN $3,862
Looks like a non-original TRC, way too large for the headstock.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yG0AAOSwlPFeKRZG/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yMoAAOSwgOdeKRZG/s-l1600.jpg)
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2001 4001v63 LEFTY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/274224789647). $2,999 BIN
19 years and still has the sticker
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6tYAAOSwKlxeK4mW/s-l1600.jpg)
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I know I've never seen an 8 string quite like that one. Pretty cool!
That TRC on the white on is nasty looking.
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That v63 is impressive.
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That eight-string is not a 4003, but I think it is a modified 4008. The center shedua strip is an identifying feature of the 4001 and 4008 but was not used in the production 4003 or 4003S/5. The headstock, string arrangement, and the "toothless" 7-screw tailpiece suggest 4008 as well. It is possible that this one is a factory build 4008 with the deluxe fingerboard and bound body of the standard 4001.
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Factory modified, you mean? Because the chassis has a bound body and neck and an 8-string headstock.
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Factory modified, you mean? Because the chassis has a bound body and neck and an 8-string headstock.
Yes, as I stated in my third sentence. If this is indeed from 1983, it would have been made at the tail end of the 4008 production and before the 4003S/8 came along (1985). It has all the features of the typical (but rare) 4008 with the addition of the deluxe fingerboard and the bound body. Interesting note: The typical 4008 had a bound neck, but not a bound body. There was no binding on the 4003S/8 body or neck.
At assembly, all of these parts are interchangeable. The core is the neck-through blank; obviously, the 8-string has a longer headstock, but otherwise the necks were the same. The body wings are cut, and if bound, the binding is added BEFORE the wings are glued to the neck-through assembly. The fingerboards are separately milled and assemblers pick them out of a container. I'm not sure, but I think the boards are sanded and contoured before being added to the neck. And I think if it is a bound neck, the binding is added after the board is on the neck and the frets added. So it's quite possible for this particular bass was made to a special order, on the assembler's whim, or by mistake. No harm, no foul - somebody bought it.
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The White/CB is very attractive, the binding is CB+black, like a 4002. Has anyone here seen another one like this?
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Apr. '73 white with checkerboard, gap tooth tailpiece, toaster, wide inlays (https://reverb.com/item/31562150-rickenbacker-4001-1973-white). $5K
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--5LU-mYZE--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1579935165/p5llbipzvkxwi5eqa5rt.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--y6SW5gJC--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1579935198/m1m49kpkbyqexbfod5dc.jpg)
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WOW!
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Second that - WOW!
But 5k...?
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1993 1st generation 4004C (https://reverb.com/item/32039205), $2K
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--uFGvLSL---/f_auto,t_large/v1581219118/wq00qr6sf92fqh0a4rmb.jpg)
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Don't tempt me!
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Dave W, check your PMs.
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1968 RM1999 MG (https://reverb.com/item/32065375). Listed as a 4001S. $16,900
Rounded heel so definitely not a '64.
Not a case queen, in the best possible way.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--QczI_bvl--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1581372682/kbakhb8pjsu9qpsyr4tm.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--jxvPGZK5--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1581372675/bfo6neo99lnczzyozki0.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--IfMzhGdw--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1581372680/tozpw3wvxy5lnap6vkzg.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--b_5cNz_g--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1581372676/zitxnefhn5gbpk61gaxo.jpg)
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Very nice grain on that one.
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1997 4001CS (https://www.ebay.com/itm/254643061643) #666 in very good condition. $5.5K BIN
A case queen, even the sticker has survived for 23 years.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IigAAOSwqShe~194/s-l1600.jpg)
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He'll probably get his price, even in this economy.
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1979 4001FL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/193585399994). $3,650 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CX0AAOSwR9BfFbDG/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's in exceptionally good shape.
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4004LK #4/60 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/324248429529). EUR 25K (US$29,300) BIN (Make Offer option)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4NYAAOSwzSle~a8c/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JOYAAOSwAIde~a9B/s-l1600.jpg)
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Yow! I bet it sells for somewhere near the asking price.
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I considered putting in an order at the time .
One of my regrets .
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I considered putting in an order at the time .
One of my regrets .
Likewise, I missed by minutes, one being sold in Hawaii at "retail" for $1800 plus shipping.
Attached (hopefully) are a few shots from a Factory tour in September 2005, the gentleman in the picture hand carved each Lemmy individually, so, no two are alike.
He was the last full time Luthier employed at Rickenbacker and was previously building Rickenbacker Acoustics
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Listing ended. no longer available. Must have sold elsewhere.
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1990 S5 Red/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/164351946526), $4K BIN
https://reverb.com/item/35447988
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2~4AAOSweyVfRE1Z/s-l1600.jpg)
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Yikes! I remember when any red/black trim Ric would sit in stores the longest. Times have changed.
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Yup, times have changed, where possibly tastes might have changed, but it could be this parameter as well: "I know it's ugly AND expensive, but at least it's rare".
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Fivers are rare, red is rare, and with a white guard and TRC and chrome hardware (totally reversible) this bass would look beautiful. That's the best thing about S/BT models - no black binding so reversing the trim is easy.
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(https://skeptoid.com/eps1200x744/4532.jpg)
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What's wrong with red and black? It's the perfect bass to coordinate with a Michael Jackson jacket and just in time for Halloween if your band covers Thriller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA
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"Red" when it was a stock RIC color (1985-'98) came standard with black trim and hardware. You had to pay extra to get the chrome and white, called "reverse trim" at the time. Or you could do it yourself, but you'd have to buy or swap with someone. But on models with binding, you would have black binding too, and that's not easily "reversed."
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Wasn't there an urban myth that red Ricks were cursed or something? :o
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Wasn't there an urban myth that red Ricks were cursed or something? :o
Red/BT and Midnight Blue/BT did not sell well.
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How do you know?
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How do you know?
I've read it somewhere, can't remember where. Now you got me curious: do you have the numbers?
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The red ones sure seemed to hang around longer. A local friend who moved here in 93 or 94 bought a new red 360 for $400 at a time when the street price of a 360 was about $900. It had been on display for a couple of years or more.
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I've read it somewhere, can't remember where. Now you got me curious: do you have the numbers?
Not in my book. Maybe a comment by John Hall somewhere? Eventually, Red was discontinued, and Midnight Blue switched over the chrome/white trim in 1999. Midnight Blue was dropped recently after a 34 year run.
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'00 Sea Green 4003 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264744203181). $3,726 BIN
Color Of The Year 2000. When was the last time you saw a Sea Green for sale?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qt0AAOSwnpZezXdc/s-l500.jpg)
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Whoa, nice one! And it's not listed by multiple dealers like so many from Japan, so the seller probably has it in his possession.
No idea how many were made, but I only saw a few back then.
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Local kijiji sale , initial asking price is high ($4200 Cdn) but not a common bass .
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1973 4000 Fireglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/284010271379). EUR 2,200 ($2,600)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ut8AAOSwsQJfXgRK/s-l1600.jpg)
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1975 4000 MG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/392934298381). $3,034 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uGMAAOSw89BfVwFW/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's really steep, IMO. Probably, worth more like half that amount.
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That's really steep, IMO. Probably, worth more like half that amount.
For $1,300 I'd break the keyboard hitting the BIN for that FG.
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I managed to find a 4000 last year and was surprised by how much I liked it .
Great basses !
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How 'bout a pic? Is it routed under the guard for a neck pickup?
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Not too long ago I wanted to trade my trusty FG 4001 for a 4000, for no other reason than looks!
One pickup basses grow on me - and Rick's look so much better with one pickup..
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76 Burgandyglo , no route . Lovely bass .
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdyFzqQs/IMG-7086.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Oh boy. She's perfect.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/j5V6jy2w/IMG-6063.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I got this one about fifteen years ago , after looking for one for years . They didn't come up for sale much here in Halifax . I wanted a later 4001 . And I fell in love with it . I still get a little weak in the knees when I look at it .
Bypassed the cap and strung it with TIs .
It has a gorgeous old school thump . But it's rich . This is the reason I appreciate a nice Ric .
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(https://i.postimg.cc/j5V6jy2w/IMG-6063.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I got this one about fifteen years ago , after looking for one for years . They didn't come up for sale much here in Halifax . I wanted a later 4001 . And I fell in love with it . I still get a little weak in the knees when I look at it .
Bypassed the cap and strung it with TIs .
It has a gorgeous old school thump . But it's rich . This is the reason I appreciate a nice Ric .
Wow, looks exactly like my '75, bought about 18 years ago - but this one is post 75 I guess?
I had TI's on it back then too 8) Like your 4000 too!
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Can't bring myself to put flats on a Ric, I like the Ric Clank too much. Fresh rounds on the '73 and broken-in rounds on the Shadow, that's as far as I'll go. For thump I have my P's and Hofners.
That's a really nice application of FG.
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I have a Stingray I keep fresh rounds on , so I do have a clanky one . I just love the sound of TI's on a Ric . Always loved the MacCartney thump better than the program clank . The 4001 is an 80 .
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That is a nice 4001! I just put flats on my 4003S for a single I'm working on. Man, it's instant vintage/McCartney thump. Here's a 30 second isloated bass clip -
https://soundcloud.com/tom-heslin/into-the-storm-bass-excerpt (https://soundcloud.com/tom-heslin/into-the-storm-bass-excerpt)
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Not too long ago I wanted to trade my trusty FG 4001 for a 4000, for no other reason than looks!
One pickup basses grow on me - and Rick's look so much better with one pickup..
I'm with you on the single pickup variety being more visually appealing. Must be plenty others that feel the same. One would think Rickenbacker is missing the boat on some more sales by not continuing production on the 4000.
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I'd love to see a reissue of the original , but maybe with a thinner neck than the originals . Never seen one in the flesh , but I've heard they were chunky , and heavy . I love the first pickguards !
And a 4005 , of course .
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bn3T9kJL/IMG-7620.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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They hacked guitar bridge/tailpieces for the early 4000's. Pretty lame.
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The horseshoe had six pole pieces too .
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The horseshoe had six pole pieces too .
The toaster still does.
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Can't bring myself to put flats on a Ric, I like the Ric Clank too much. Fresh rounds on the '73 and broken-in rounds on the Shadow, that's as far as I'll go. For thump I have my P's and Hofners.
That's a really nice application of FG.
It was an endless tone quest with the Rick, at the time it was so different from what I had played before. For a long time D'Addario XL Red's was my favourite 4001 strings, recorded a lot with those. Instant bass piano! Now, it's got regular rounds, just to have a Geddy tone on tap if required🙂
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1992 4003S/5 Red/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/274546538448). $3K BIN
Not a case queen but looks like it's all there. Starting to delaminate near the heel.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/z5EAAOSwVH1fk7r5/s-l1600.jpg)
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1979 4080 Burgundyglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/392989972716)
(https://item-8254005.com/Turbo2020/837/3.jpg)
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Late 1973 Burgundyglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/164479560974) in Japan. $3,819 BIN.
No checkerboard, wide crushed pearl inlays, gap tooth bridge or even a neck toaster, but still a great color from the 1/2" spacing era. And it has the Plexi TRC and wavy Grovers.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KWkAAOSwbgVfnI1Y/s-l1600.jpg)
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1973 neck-thru 4000 JG (https://reverb.com/item/36667644). $2,950
Gap tooth bridge and clear tug bar. Replaced tuners.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--XDmQOMxI--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1604090700/jmzavhiumjg0tkbtjoqh.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--AZ3yiKjm--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1604090702/j1mt4n1kdrvatg0i6ent.jpg)
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Nice ! I picked up a set neck 4000 last year , I thought I'd miss the neck pickup but quickly got comfortable without it and came to appreciate just having two knobs .
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'72 Glueburst (https://www.ebay.com/itm/154283289479). $4.5K BIN
(https://photos.imageevent.com/carsandguitars/ebay/12248.jpeg)
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Nice! A little steep, but ought to sell.
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I'm not an expert on after-market parts, but it looks like the "original" tailpiece that is included (photographed separately, not the Hipshot installed) might be an All-parts tailpiece/bridge with the center "tooth" notched out to make it look more vintage. It is definitely not a '72 tailpiece. The other details on the bass look right for a '72.
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Glueburst?
True elegance in nomenclature....
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Glueglo is also accepted nomenclature.
I've seen Japanese copies from the '70s do the same thing. Something leaches out of the binding, or binding glue, that discolours the maple fairly badly for whatever reason. I would love to know the science behind it.
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Definitely an Allparts tailpiece/bridge. Brody also states that the pots are from 1973, but there seem to be a lot more things inconsistent with the harness for it being the same vintage as the bass, itself. ???
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Glueburst?
True elegance in nomenclature....
Occasionally I use GlueBoy or Midnight Glue.
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1983 4080/12 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/294017272266). $15K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hvEAAOSwZylgK5w9/s-l500.jpg)
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1961 4000 (https://reverb.com/item/38885799) in Switzerland. $16,478
11lbs. Non original guard, knobs, TRC. Remagnetized pickup.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--8wAz3IDy--/f_auto,t_large/v1613555560/p6g5pdgcznffkj4gkok0.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--8dP8_EGz--/f_auto,t_large/v1613555558/sz5jmirkfnj2tokdlbli.jpg)
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I would love to play an early 4000 .
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It's rare enough that someone may pay close to the asking price.
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As purist as I may be, somehow I'm not offended by the upside-down C64 TRC and I even like the black guard.
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It's missing the sliding mute and bracket. The early 4000 had a thicker body, 1 5/8" (41mm) with no contours on the edges. Current models are 1 ¼" (31mm). The old ones weigh more, too, and were neck heavy.
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It's missing the sliding mute and bracket. The early 4000 had a thicker body, 1 5/8" (41mm) with no contours on the edges. Current models are 1 ¼" (31mm). The old ones weigh more, too, and were neck heavy.
Geddy has a few early ones, and describes them all as incredibly heavy. And I suppose he has enough Rick experience to compare them :)
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Nice RM1999 on Reverb for lots of money that I think might be a new listing?
https://reverb.com/uk/item/38926653-holy-grail-1964-rickenbacker-rm-1999-4001s-fireglo (https://reverb.com/uk/item/38926653-holy-grail-1964-rickenbacker-rm-1999-4001s-fireglo)
Treble cap is missing and the Fireglo is a bit unusual as it looks like they didn't burst the edges of the body. I'm thinking refin?
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Geddy has a few early ones, and describes them all as incredibly heavy. And I suppose he has enough Rick experience to compare them :)
His Ric mileage includes 18lbs 4080's so weight is not an issue...
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and the Fireglo is a bit unusual as it looks like they didn't burst the edges of the body. I'm thinking refin?
I think so too. The pickup and jack plate show their age but the finish looks almost new. 60's fireglo's are usually more gradual and orangey.
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Treble cap is missing and the Fireglo is a bit unusual as it looks like they didn't burst the edges of the body. I'm thinking refin?
Treble cap is there (it's mostly hidden under one of the tone caps), but did these come stock with both volume controls closest to the selector switch, with the tone controls closest to the jack plate? This one is certainly arranged that way.
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1986 S5 MG/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/154340415072). $3,490 BIN
Looks similar to my son's 4-string 1986 S MG/BT, which is one of the best sounding Rics I have had the pleasure to play.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3NkAAOSwKflgMtvM/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4uYAAOSw4DxgMtvB/s-l1600.jpg)
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did these come stock with both volume controls closest to the selector switch, with the tone controls closest to the jack plate? This one is certainly arranged that way.
My V63 came that way.
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My V63 came that way.
Interesting; I have not come across that AFAIK. I've seen them like in photo A; yours is like that in photo B?
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My V63 came that way.
Weird, never seen that myself. I had a '93 V63 for a short while, and it had the normal control layout.
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1983 4080/12 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/294017272266). $15K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hvEAAOSwZylgK5w9/s-l500.jpg)
It's back (https://www.ebay.com/itm/294151225440) with $5K knocked off the price and a "Make Offer" option.
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1991 2030 Hamburg FG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174871402022). $1,849 BIN
8.8lbs.
Haven't seen one of those for sale in a long time.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VP4AAOSw995hCTyC/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3jIAAOSw7zlhCTyN/s-l1600.png)
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Dec. 1986 Ruby/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/203544338032). Quite rare combination. $1,999 starting bid
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MzsAAOSw0eFg~eFJ/s-l1600.jpg)
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That ruby looks nice with black trim. Nice finish on the 2030 too.
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That ruby looks nice with black trim.
It's a little Gibson-ish, in a good way. I'd swap the guard for a 5-ply B/W/B/W/B for more Gibson vibe.
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Feb 1967 4000 converted to 4001S (https://www.ebay.com/itm/265247137207). $12K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bcgAAOSwFgFhA7ga/s-l1600.jpg)
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Sadly, no pics of the mod under the guard.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wBQAAOSw0r9hA7gZ/s-l1600.jpg)
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1989 S/8 White/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/203603188226), very reasonable $3K starting bid. This one should not last for long on eBay. No visible tail lift, due to the 7-bolt tailpiece.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PuYAAOSwkcNhPpz3/s-l1600.jpg)
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Yeah, good price on the white one. That came up about a week ago. I am glad mine also has the extra screws on the tailpiece. Rock solid bass. I'm starting to use it a little more with my original band.
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90's Green sparkle refin 4003, claimed to be Al Cisneros's (https://www.ebay.com/itm/334190072723). $7,900 starting bid
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/D~UAAOSwWhVhcdwX/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~X0AAOSw8hhhcdwY/s-l1600.jpg)
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I've seen that one before at the same stupid price. I assume Al has somewhat of a following, but that's a $2000 bass. I DO like green. :mrgreen:
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https://youtu.be/jL2DH-nKBeA
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1967 365 converted to bass (https://reverb.com/item/48621476). New neck, 30" scale, 18 frets. $2,300
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--Yo12hvFY--/f_auto,t_large/v1640712377/wdg7up1vktvjfaugj7py.jpg)
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I was looking at that , and wishing the company might make a shortscale 350 bass .
Black , of course …
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That's pretty cool except for the EMGs. Nothing a pair of TB+ can't fix. 8)
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I'd put toasters in it, and move the bridge PU back WAY closer to the bridge. And, speaking of the bridge, I'd replace that Allparts one with a Hipshot A Style.
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Ooh, I like that.
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1974 4001 in glossy, non-burst "Walnut" (https://www.ebay.com/itm/294858803669). It's been a while since I saw the last one in this color. This rare (but not especially desirable) brown tint variation was sometimes referred to as root beer glo.
Currently at $2K with 55 bids and 8+ days to go.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XHMAAOSwKH1iK77c/s-l1600.jpg)
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That's at least $2K nice but with 8 days to go it might wind up in the stratosphere.
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I sort of like that color. Real slice of the 70s.
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I have no idea what happened but now it's $1,525 and just 13 bids. Cancelled shill bidding?
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With that many bids cancelled, there must have been a shill.
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1990 FL White/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/304476323875). $3K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dZIAAOSw4vxiY5OQ/s-l1600.jpg)
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Nice one!
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1960 1959 one-owner 4000 (https://reverb.com/item/56248195). $28,950
Seriously, kill me now.
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--AIn1M80H--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821189/ahuudbgcl3shlslhpvyv.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--6oM_MyoW--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821200/ip2ifdehbv8x94bhv1sx.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--m86M1uMW--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821186/wji2stnayq3h1pjowsbt.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--i9ynNBGZ--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821148/ws0qlrukiixi3jhp6crp.jpg)
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--tfY4lKR4--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821176/xwhx4xxwxqlylgzsrpfx.jpg)(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--wUhBd6_5--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1654821166/wgyhwfyc6guoc8yi14l7.jpg)
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Damn!
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It probably weighs a ton , but it’s a gorgeous ton .
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If I have it correct in my book, B9171 would have been the 71st Rickenbacker bass made. B stood for bass, and 9 for 1959. The rest of the numbers back then stood for a numerical sequence that started with 100 in 1957. The numbering system changed in late 1960 and then several more times to the present day. It's kinda complicated, but more clearly (I hope) explained in my book. ;D
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Thanks Paul. I should have looked at the book.
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2001 S/5 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/165664595689). $3,695 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ahgAAOSwgn1jGQHu/s-l1600.jpg)
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1986 4003 FL Red/BT (https://reverb.com/item/62529883). $4K
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--O-tERqx3--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1666641468/cphoxkvqweimhoml22m8.jpg)
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Something tells me that will be sitting for a long time at that price.
I remember when red/bt Rics (any model) were the slowest sellers.
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Something tells me that will be sitting for a long time at that price.
I remember when red/bt Rics (any model) were the slowest sellers.
And fretless players seldom choose Ric. Chris Brubeck, that's the only name I can think of. This bass is for collectors of odd Rics, and with two large paint chips it's not a great candidate.
For $1,500 maybe I'd be tempted, only because 80s chic makes a comeback.
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I saw Chris play that bass years ago, and it sounded great....
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I saw Chris play that bass years ago, and it sounded great....
I think so too. Was it with the Seymour Duncan humbucker or the Fender J bridge pickup?
He picks near the neck and uses Rotosound Tru Bass tapewounds, so evidently he wants an upright tone and not a Jaco-esque mid-ridden mwah.
Bass solo at 29:00. The drummer BTW is Dan Brubeck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nCNsfC2cSU&t=29m0s
Another solo at 36:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nCNsfC2cSU&t=36m0s
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It's a very "pretty" and "musical" sounding electric bass.
Thanks for the clips.
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If I couldn't see the visuals I would assume that was amplified upright bass.
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1959 4000 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/175767560816). $42.5K BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XX0AAOSwO9pkhiLL/s-l1600.jpg)
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I wonder where they managed to get that one.
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The grain in the two halves of that body are the most totally mismatched that I've ever seen.
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I’ve only seen one in the flesh. The neck was pretty chunky , and it weighed a ton.
And yet I thought it was one of the most gorgeous things I had ever seen. I’m one of those that gets a little weak in the knees whenever I see a nice Ric.
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The grain in the two halves of that body are the most totally mismatched that I've ever seen.
Well, they didn't bother to make a 4 saddle bridge/tailpiece and used a guitar part...
I've also heard they weigh a ton. But it's a historic item. Very elegant contours, and a pickguard that looks like it was drawn by the designer's 4 years old kid.
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Those early Ric basses were certainly primitive.
Still … they get me.
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Those early Ric basses were certainly primitive.
Still … they get me.
The Ric 330/360/620 bridges are made up from off-the-shelf hardware parts. I'd say they're still primitive.
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1982 4003S Autumnglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/134710563510). $3,890 BIN
7-bolt tailpiece, split guard, reverse hairpin rods (adjusted at the body end). Stereo outputs, atypical of S models.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mtQAAOSwlq5k8PF~/s-l1600.jpg)
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Pretty!
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Years ago I thought that matte ATG was the most unattractive Ric color. When I started thinking of it as Höfnerburst I saw its charm.
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I've always loved AutumnGlo. I was in possession of one for a short while. '78 4001, white binding, black PG and TRC. I think those were built for the Canadian market. My buddy bought it in Detroit, so that would make sense.
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I think that a good buffing and gold-backed clear guard can be a major upgrade.
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1983 4005 JG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/295926256960), button-top pickups, $4,800 BIN
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XJgAAOSwg0li1GJ5/s-l500.jpg)
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Killer grain (https://www.ebay.com/itm/225761833316). And I like the look of the new skunk stripe on the SW.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Pq8AAOSwHohk-Pvn/s-l1600.jpg)
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Beautiful!
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Feb. 1967 4005 OS Burgundyglo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/155888192603). $13,495
No CB on OS's. Top has some nice flame
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SnkAAOSwScVlU4CD/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IyUAAOSwv4RlU4CC/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5XsAAOSwenRlU4CD/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/azMAAOSw0xhlU4CC/s-l1600.jpg)
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That’s simply gorgeous.
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That's a beauty.
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That bass is two S/Ns away from the JG 4005WB I had for 38 years.
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That bass is two S/Ns away from the JG 4005WB I had for 38 years.
Had? Have you sold it?
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Had? Have you sold it?
After 38 years of owning it I felt it was time to pass it on to its next caretaker; that was in the summer of '11. Not to mention I got an offer I couldn't refuse! :mrgreen:
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Short scale 4030, Ruby/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/305363356565). Checkerboard binding, Richlite fretboard. Nice!
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IcsAAOSwxOZlrEI5/s-l1600.png)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DhEAAOSwg2tlrEI8/s-l1600.png)
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It amazes me how terrible people can be at taking pictures. :o Those are pretty cool basses, though I prefer the midnight blue ones.
(https://assets-global.website-files.com/631ffc161a83dd3becceb304/658a7ae54bd02b5a7c7312bd_4030004-p-500.jpg)
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It amazes me how terrible people can be at taking pictures
If it weren't for someone posting the worst pic of a Ric on Craigslist, I wouldn't have my 4003 Shadow for $750.
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Ended "because there was an error in the listing." How much was the listing price?
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When I last looked it was just over the starting bid of $1,500, with 3 bids. Reserve not met.
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Good price on a 1994 v63 MG - $2,676 BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296162652296
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MVwAAOSwWvJloV-I/s-l1600.webp)
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That's a very fair price.
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If it weren't for the 94% feedback and it being in Japan, I'd probably snatch that up right now and flip it.
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If it weren't for the 94% feedback and it being in Japan, I'd probably snatch that up right now and flip it.
20 positive, 1 negative feedback in the past 12 months. Not that bad.
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I guess it doesn't take much to knock your score down when you have so few transactions. I'm a little surprised it's still available.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqnLjc9W/IMG_9761.webp) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQrjWD0j/IMG_9762.webp) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrMzjcYL/IMG_9763.webp) (https://postimages.org/)
“Handmade” copy with real Rickenbacker parts. Lefty , strung righty , can be easily converted back to lefty. Just turned up on our local kijiji for $650 Cdn.
I know it’s a trailer park thing , but I’m tempted. It’s about five minutes away …
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Since it's that close, you ought to at least take a look.
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I like upside down Rics. And have a Yamaha Samurai , which is kinda like one.
I offered the guy a 5string I don’t play.
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Early 1973 4001 MG (https://www.ebay.com/itm/156087548705) — checkerboard, toaster, wide inlays — $6K BIN
She's perfect.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/k60AAOSws6Nl3xAA/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RcYAAOSwMWVl3xAB/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p94AAOSwiU1l3xAA/s-l1600.jpg)
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Beauty!
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1989 4003SPC Blackstar (https://www.sweetwater.com/used/listings/159322), #96/200, Paul Wikczynski refin, at Sweetwater Gear Exchange. $3,700
(https://media.sweetwater.com/m/gx/9837d215eb1316782cdb53ec0d7960df8676a230.jpg)
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That looks in great shape.
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Wikczynski is one of the legendary old Ric factory guys.
His work is gorgeous.
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I don't believe Paul Wilczynski was an "old factory guy" with RIC, but was, for a time, licensed to produce acoustic guitars bearing the Rickenbacker brand in his own shop in the 2010s. He is known for his beautiful rebuilds and restorations, several of which I have owned.
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Paul wasn't one of the old factory guys but he knows the old methods and he does excellent work. He's now located in Italy.
About Paul (https://www.studio-california.com/about)
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I knew he was building acoustics and legend for refinishes and restorations , I just assumed he had to have worked in the factory at one point.
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He's now located in Italy.
That's great news. So much closer to me, if I ever need his skills.
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1995 4004C first iteration with a maple board, especially nice woodgrain, in Spain. €3,100 ($3,377)
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/394361966560933/
(https://scontent.ftlv19-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/432416741_7114190615375355_491463762677405197_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p720x720&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ZcTgCYkX18oAX9gkjfo&_nc_oc=AQkoHHY4J833kmv9mB-lKY-3EBBoDY8YZfdIGoZ2Ani3Usrj6SHVolCGJYDU_jaGOBEgxWZLdzXHV7nST6IsqjhZ&_nc_ht=scontent.ftlv19-2.fna&oh=00_AfDMl2VzmEtOKs2Fg4xR86IWKIoqi1-iYxUPodrYEMzTow&oe=65FC8E4F)
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Never thought I'd see a 90s 4004C at that kind of price. Still a great looker.
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Dave W sold his to me back in '03 or '04! I sold it a few years ago, some somebody else is enjoying it. The lightest Rick bass ever!
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The lightest Rick bass ever!
The new-ish 4003SW are also about 1lbs. lighter than maple-bodied Rics, at ~8lbs. I'd like one day to get a maple board 4004C, but not for $3K+...
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Dave W sold his to me back in '03 or '04! I sold it a few years ago, some somebody else is enjoying it. The lightest Rick bass ever!
I forgot that you had sold it. You were the third owner. I bought it from member fur85 back in the Dudepit days.
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Wow! I had Jeff Rath modify it to vol/vol/tone so the microswitch is gone. Did that not long after I bought it from you. Gigged it for a while. After the book was published (and it is featured in the book), I sold most of my basses, but held on to the Cheyenne for a few more years. I sold it maybe four or five years ago. Loved that bass!
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I remember that you sold off most of them, didn't realize that you kept the 4004C longer.
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1998 4003S/5 WHT/BT (https://www.ebay.com/itm/156172817797). $5,639 BIN
From Japan. Strung EADGC so possibly had less tension on the neck than other S/5's. Original pickup included. Some stand-related discoloration but looks to be in great condition.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WtMAAOSw7iRmIQmI/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Wc0AAOSwx85mIQmJ/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0ZAAAOSwExNmIQmI/s-l1600.webp)
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Holy cow. July 1967 4000 MG, mint (https://www.ebay.com/itm/166700510363). $18,495 BIN
Crazy rare and drop-dead gorgeous. Neck-thru and no neck pickup rout. Take my kidney and send me this one.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1eIAAOSwYxdmEybt/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RmgAAOSwyeBmEybw/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VPIAAOSwwkZmEybx/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p6wAAOSwzGlmEyby/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oXYAAOSw60NmEybw/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Uw4AAOSwFtFmEybx/s-l1600.webp)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qnoAAOSwY2VmEybx/s-l1600.webp)
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That looks great.
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I have a neck through 4000 , there’s a lot to be said for two knob simplicity.
That’s simply gorgeous , Ilan.
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Is it unethical to want to track down a vintage toaster and make it a 4001S?
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Is it unethical to want to track down a vintage toaster and make it a 4001S?
It's fine so long as you're up front about it, especially when/if it comes to selling it.
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Is it unethical to want to track down a vintage toaster and make it a 4001S?
It would be even better with a P in the neck position :)
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Is it unethical to want to track down a vintage toaster and make it a 4001S?
I wouldn't. Most 4000's were routed for a neck pickup, and those are absolutely fine to convert, preferably keeping the original pickguard and harness intact and using a reisuue guard. But please don't take a dremel to a mint 1967 bass.