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Title: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 08, 2018, 11:49:45 AM
I ran across Nightwish kind of by accident while listening to something else on YouTube and gave them a try.

I like them a lot! The current singer is Dutch and she has a terrific voice. The bass player often uses a Buzzard, which is interesting to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2BYHEwD2B0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 08, 2018, 02:31:02 PM
Pretty nice!
I like her voice a lot too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 08, 2018, 03:07:01 PM
Robert Palmer, Clues

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8b/Robert_Palmer_Clues.jpg/220px-Robert_Palmer_Clues.jpg)

Before that, Santana 4, including their CD from the Montreaux Jazz Festival.  Great listening!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/Santana_IV_%28Front_Cover%29.png)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 08, 2018, 08:34:59 PM
Moe Bandy, It Was Always So Easy
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Post by: amptech on February 08, 2018, 11:17:01 PM
Gryphon- Raindance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqtexuIbho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqtexuIbho)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Blackbird on February 09, 2018, 06:26:24 AM
Here's a Canadian band that's a favorite of mine...Big Wreck.  Great bassist too.   Insane guitarist that might not get the recognition he should being from Canada. 

https://www.youtube.com/user/bigwreckmusic
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 09, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
Someone on Facebook posted  this video of Puddles Pity Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfPwtUTP4k


He sure does some interesting covers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydhE7wThDtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0E0E5e3atU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDCkNGazQUI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 09, 2018, 07:17:50 AM
Andy Rehfeldt is always good for a laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8hjW7FqKE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 09, 2018, 08:24:52 AM
Riverside from Poland have been a recent favorite lately. One of the best keyboardists I've heard in years with some wicked B3 tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMuA6wEUfM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 09, 2018, 09:03:36 AM
This thread inspired me to load up Popa Chubby, starting with "Sweet Goddess of Love and Beer."

If you guys aren't already playing this in your sets, you need to start.  Great tune!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myae6nWs-1I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 09, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Years ago we played at a Hells Angels party and Popa Chubby was also scheduled to play there. He watched our entire show sitting on a flightcase in the wings.
Seemed like a relaxed guy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 09, 2018, 09:46:14 AM
Seems like he would fit right in at that kind of gig!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on February 09, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
 I've been rediscovering Hawkwind

 they played locally so I blagged my way in for old times sake and was pleasantly surprised, the young lad they have playing bass for them is really proper good, like Cliff Burton good. Also the support band lunched it so Hawkwind  did a whole acoustic set as an opener

 Since then Ive been working my way through their back catalogue on my commute. its really cool listening to stuff I was into as a teenager with my present much more sophisticated musician/producers ears. There's a lot of really clever bass stuff I never appreciated before
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2018, 10:58:02 AM
Hawkwind - after decades where no one took them seriously and they were discarded as Silver Machine one hit wonders - are finally being reappreciated in recent years. It's a general trend, so you're cool for once!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 09, 2018, 11:51:56 AM
Riverside from Poland have been a recent favorite lately. One of the best keyboardists I've heard in years with some wicked B3 tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMuA6wEUfM

Guitar player is a dead ringer for "Highlander" Kenny.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2018, 01:04:28 PM
Got the new Riversideski too, but am currently in blues rock mode with a lot of Ten Years After (the new 10 CD Box - lovingly done), Stone The Crows/Maggie Bell and Alvin Lee solo. Also heard the Overend Watts solo album (a great singer he is not, but it's classic Brit humo(u)r) and - my guilty pleasure  :gay: - a lot of Glenn Frey and some Don Henley radio broadcasts.

Plus some Tommy Bolin.

He replaced Ritchie Blackmore.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Chris P. on February 09, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
I interviewed Marko of Nightwish once. A great guy. The Buzzard and doubleneck player.
I don't know why, but the interview was like a discussion here and after 20 minutes we were talking about rock 'n roll antics. The conclusion was that -A- flatscreens don't explode that nice as an old television when you throw it out of your hotel room and - B- modern hotel rooms' lack of windows, so no way to throw televisions out. it was a great and hilarious interview after a serious bit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on February 09, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Hawkwind - after decades where no one took them seriously and they were discarded as Silver Machine one hit wonders - are finally being reappreciated in recent years. It's a general trend, so you're cool for once!

 you don't know the half of it, I've been wearing Hawaiian shirts and sporting a big bushy beard for years, now suddenly hipsters, and I'm more fashionable now than I've ever been in my life.
 I cant wait for them to move on, but  the bitchy looks you get from hipsters whos beards "challenge "yours are hilarious, now I get what busty blondes have to go through :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: tore00 on February 09, 2018, 03:43:44 PM
The Roches
Jethro Tull
Led Zeppelin (they are always in my set list) 77 tour bootlegs
King Crimson (as LZ I have always something on) now listening to Projekcts
Genesis the Lamb tour
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
I would have added Chris Stapleton, but he wouldn't have passed Dave's strict country test!  :-\

And the new Rick Springfield - which sounds nothing like you would think ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h83OHipHPcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6v3K-ZSVho

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 09, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Guitar player is a dead ringer for "Highlander" Kenny.

Oi...!  :mrgreen:

Would it surprise folks that I'm sort of not listening to much of anything lately... multiple issues...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 09, 2018, 09:39:18 PM
Tonight.....great to play along with using my new NXT upright electric...I love this tune, it has a graceful swing to it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvq-L3WoBTg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on February 10, 2018, 08:53:56 AM
Came across this one again (someone posted a mini doc on another forum) and it's been stuck in my head on/off for 2 weeks.  Never knew these were local boys:

Hey little Donna
Still wanna?
You said to ring you up
When I was in Torronna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxkjvKBPQjo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 10, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
I've been a little obsessed with these guys for about a year now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoyKzgkqR4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 66Atlas on February 10, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
I like the new Rick Springfield actually.


A friend of mine worked on the upcoming Blackberry Smoke record & I was able to listen to the whole thing a couple of times at his place, it may end up being my favorite one of theirs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsYQ56Ubovc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 10, 2018, 07:12:04 PM
Posted this today to a FB page I follow. Great song, always loved the bassline.

https://youtu.be/G0DttYjN5p8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 10, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
I interviewed Marko of Nightwish once. A great guy. The Buzzard and doubleneck player.
I don't know why, but the interview was like a discussion here and after 20 minutes we were talking about rock 'n roll antics. The conclusion was that -A- flatscreens don't explode that nice as an old television when you throw it out of your hotel room and - B- modern hotel rooms' lack of windows, so no way to throw televisions out. it was a great and hilarious interview after a serious bit.

Nightwish is playing here next month and I think I'd be foolish not to go see them!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 10, 2018, 07:44:29 PM
I've been a little obsessed with these guys for about a year now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoyKzgkqR4

Saw them a couple of years ago. It was a GREAT show!!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on February 11, 2018, 01:04:57 AM
I've been rediscovering Hawkwind

 they played locally so I blagged my way in for old times sake and was pleasantly surprised, the young lad they have playing bass for them is really proper good, like Cliff Burton good. Also the support band lunched it so Hawkwind  did a whole acoustic set as an opener

 Since then Ive been working my way through their back catalogue on my commute. its really cool listening to stuff I was into as a teenager with my present much more sophisticated musician/producers ears. There's a lot of really clever bass stuff I never appreciated before

They do a good show, and pick the right songs. Gonna see them again in August (in Canterbury!)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 11, 2018, 04:49:38 AM
Posted this today to a FB page I follow. Great song, always loved the bassline.

I did see the "namesakes" of this band with the original "The Blues Band" on their first tours but Hughie Flint moved on after the 2nd LP... his last regular project...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2018, 12:03:20 PM
Saw them a couple of years ago. It was a GREAT show!!!!

I like them a lot too - and it's not for the Satanist Vaudeville image stuff at all (which I find mildly amusing, but also limiting). What I really dig about them is their melodic sense in their music - it reminds me big time of Blue Öyster Cult which I loved for exactly the same trait (and not for their laser shows or songs about giant lizards). But whenever I hum along to "come together - together as one - come together - for Lucifer's son", Edith goes: "How old are you again?"  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on February 16, 2018, 03:24:10 AM
I worked them last year and was disappointed with them live.
 the lead guy was giving it his all but the band seemed to be just going through the paces
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2018, 05:53:28 AM
BöC or the Swedes? BöC sound tired these days, especially the once very alert Eric Bloom, who is now a mere sideman to Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (always a major force in the band, but not as dominating as he is now).

Ghost are a bit like Rammstein with their Satanist hocus-pocus (with Rammstein it's that constant allusion to Third Reich imagery and their obsession with sex taboo-breaking lyrics). It has given them an immediate and entertaining image, but it will become too confining for them quickly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 16, 2018, 07:43:22 AM
Rammstein has a promising future as a Bossa Nova band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyTqXqRuYq0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2018, 08:52:10 AM
They sure are an act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5l5vOKHJQ8
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Post by: 4stringer77 on February 16, 2018, 09:13:48 AM
That's some smooth Purple there. To get back on topic, I heard about a new free streaming app for heavy metal music. Looking forward to hearing what these djs spin.
https://gimmeradio.com/#/welcome
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 16, 2018, 10:59:26 AM
Rammstein has a promising future as a Bossa Nova band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyTqXqRuYq0

That's a whole lotta gesticulating for smooth bossa nova music! Visual/aural discontinuity.... :o

But nicely played.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 17, 2018, 09:59:15 AM
Another one I've been digging - Von Hertzen Brothers from Finland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUsdiXJp3ws
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 17, 2018, 07:24:28 PM
BöC or the Swedes? BöC sound tired these days, especially the once very alert Eric Bloom, who is now a mere sideman to Donald Buck Dharma Roeser (always a major force in the band, but not as dominating as he is now).

This is a terrific live version of "Last Days of May" when Allen Lanier was still alive. He's on a Telecaster here and Eric Bloom in on keyboards, Allen's usual instrument. I love this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-UhD3lxq8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 18, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
The sofa surfers

https://youtu.be/Z1NKyn4UvcM
https://youtu.be/Z1NKyn4UvcM (https://youtu.be/Z1NKyn4UvcM)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
This is a terrific live version of "Last Days of May" when Allen Lanier was still alive. He's on a Telecaster here and Eric Bloom in on keyboards, Allen's usual instrument. I love this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-UhD3lxq8

That's a great version indeed! I've seen BÖC more than a couple of times, even with the orignal line-up, but I don't remember Lanier playing as extended a solo on guitar ever. His "artfully sloppy" style contrasts nicely with Roeser's sleek melodicism. And the drumming ... signature Bobby Rondinelli, say no more!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 19, 2018, 01:01:19 PM
I saw King King perform the other day.
Stellar live band.
Think Paul Rodgers meets Thunder.
Good old fashioned rock music.

Their latest album has been in heavy rotation in my car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvGjdCekH5c
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Post by: doombass on February 19, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
That's a great version indeed! I've seen BÖC more than a couple of times, even with the orignal line-up, but I don't remember Lanier playing as extended a solo on guitar ever. His "artfully sloppy" style contrasts nicely with Roeser's sleek melodicism. And the drumming ... signature Bobby Rondinelli, say no more!

Speaking of Rondinelli I can't help but remember that one time I happened to combine the word sloppy with the name Blackmore in one and the same sentence. I was'nt sensitive enough to use "artfullly" before sloppy thus getting quite a reaction.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 19, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
I saw King King perform the other day.
Stellar live band.
Think Paul Rodgers meets Thunder.
Good old fashioned rock music.

Their latest album has been in heavy rotation in my car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvGjdCekH5c
Really nice
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2018, 06:19:07 AM
Speaking of Rondinelli I can't help but remember that one time I happened to combine the word sloppy with the name Blackmore in one and the same sentence. I was'nt sensitive enough to use "artfullly" before sloppy thus getting quite a reaction.  :mrgreen:

Blackmore can be hugely sloppy if he is in a bad mood, a real noise merchant and he then works himself into a state where it gets worse and worse. That is not artfully sloppy but undisciplined, impatient-with-yourself sloppy.

Neil Young on electric guitar is "artfully sloppy/noisy".  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 20, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
That's a great version indeed! I've seen BÖC more than a couple of times, even with the orignal line-up, but I don't remember Lanier playing as extended a solo on guitar ever. His "artfully sloppy" style contrasts nicely with Roeser's sleek melodicism. And the drumming ... signature Bobby Rondinelli, say no more!

I find it hard to get tired of this version and agree with you on Lanier playing an unusually long guitar solo on this one.

I first saw BÖC in fall '83 or spring '84 and saw them probably 7-8 times through 2000. That show in 2000 was rad because they played a bunch of stuff they normally didn't and didn't play some things they almost always play. It was an interesting show!

At one outdoor show at a small venue I ran to the end of the stage and got Bloom, Buck and Allen to sign my ticket stub. Bloom added the BÖC symbol to his signature.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
...

Neil Young on electric guitar is "artfully sloppy/noisy".  ;D

LOL! You're much too kind.

I still want to know what compromising info he had on Crosby Stills and Nash that they would let him play with them.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 20, 2018, 04:29:36 PM
LOL! You're much too kind.

I still want to know what compromising info he had on Crosby Stills and Nash that they would let him play with them.

Me2
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 20, 2018, 07:07:04 PM
Discovered that Nightwish is playing here in NC on March 10 and decided to cough up the money and go see them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 20, 2018, 09:42:49 PM
Hey, I'll happily listen to Neil Young's electric playing any day.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 21, 2018, 07:05:25 AM
Hey, I'll happily listen to Neil Young's electric playing any day.

^ X 100!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 21, 2018, 08:21:10 AM
LOL! You're much too kind.

I still want to know what compromising info he had on Crosby Stills and Nash that they would let him play with them.


I remain baffled by it to this day. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2018, 09:44:27 AM
Hey, I'll happily listen to Neil Young's electric playing any day.

His electric guitar is certainly an experience, a captivating car crash of a sonic experience.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
I'm going through a Joe Walsh binge. I always knew some of his stuff (his quintessential Live album, the hits plus his work with The James Gang), but have now bought pretty much all his solo albums and am in the process of listening to them. For some reason, I like his laconic, nasal vocals. And how varied his stuff is.

And in the same category of "70ies guitar heroes that never quiet made the A-list" are the four Les Dudek (except that he never got to join an act as financially rewarding as the Eagles) solo albums I recently bought and listened to. I was floored by the similarities to Tommy Bolin in his solo style, I had detected that with no other guitarist before, some of the tracks I heard could have been lifted off a lost Bolin solo album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 21, 2018, 10:26:20 AM
Hey, I'll happily listen to Neil Young's electric playing any day.

Yup, me too. He plays from the heart.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 21, 2018, 10:50:14 AM
I'm going through a Joe Walsh binge. I always knew some of his stuff (his quintessential Live album, the hits plus his work with The James Gang), but have now bought pretty much all his solo albums and am in the process of listening to them. For some reason, I like his laconic, nasal vocals. And how varied his stuff is.

And in the same category of "70ies guitar heroes that never quiet made the A-list" are the four Les Dudek (except that he never got to join an act as financially rewarding as the Eagles) solo albums I recently bought and listened to. I was floored by the similarities to Tommy Bolin in his solo style, I had detected that with no other guitarist before, some of the tracks I heard could have been lifted off a lost Bolin solo album.

Fairly obscure Joe Walsh and Jack Bruce performances I just ran across.  A pretty weird show, though, not as conventional as "Later...With Jools Holland." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5dvECiDIc&t=33s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 21, 2018, 03:23:33 PM
When I was a kid I had a John Entwistle album ("Too Late the Hero") that Joe Walsh played guitar on.  I forget who played drums. I think there were some plans to tour that group but it never happened.  Too bad, it was a versatile group and there were some not bad Entwistle tunes, and Walsh played well as always.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
I just ordered that CD a few days ago, in used condition it's been deleted for a while.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Chris P. on February 22, 2018, 01:43:08 AM
After years of trying I went to a Neil Young concert in Amsterdam two years ago. He played his longest solo concert ever. I hardly knew any of the (new) songs, but after three and a half hour I thought: Wow, I was totally into his music for two and a half hour... ..to realize it was an hour more!

He started acoustic. Then band and acoustic guitar. The Falcon was next and when Blackie came on it happenend. Oer the show he changed from an old man with an acoustic to a guitar god. THE sound I heard so many nights on my headphones, listenint to Weld and Rust Never Sleeps; it was there! I so loved it. He's one of my all time favourite guitar players and I rank his Blackie tone very high. With the P90 era Townshend. 

That concert was so cool. I think Macca played like 40 songs in three hours and Young 25 in 3,5 so an average of 8 minutes. He also played short songs so there were those enourmous solo's and after 15 minutes you thought: wow, this is still the same song, when the chorus kicked in again. I really loved it!

Nice note. Still a bit rebellious. That tour he played 2.5 to 3 hours a show and this was his longest ever. A lot of personnel of the venue had to catch trains and buses so afterwards I heard there was a lot of panicking in the venue and trying to keep all bars manned, when he kept on playing.

That promise of the real band is great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2018, 07:16:34 AM
When Neil has a good night, he is a force of nature.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 22, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
A pretty weird show, though, not as conventional as "Later...With Jools Holland."  [/quote

I think i recorded every episode on VHS in the 90s. Some really great guests and interesting collaborations.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2018, 09:20:20 AM
I think I must have completely missed it when it aired 1988-1990.  Marcus Miller was the bassist in the house band. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2018, 04:22:40 PM
This will get me killed, but for all their musical qualities that house band can't really rock. Any B-list hard rock band could have done a better job on White Room. That is not to say that Miller and the very good guitarist (name escapes me right now) don't put some nice chops in, but they are acting and not feeling rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2018, 06:00:37 PM
They were jazzers more than rockers.  But Jack Bruce could be both, needless to say.  Jack was the only reason I watched it anyway. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2018, 06:04:29 PM
No issues with Jack, he is in a league of his own with those half-step defying fretless quarter-notes and the idiosyncratic timing and his unique middish sound spluttering everywhere.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2018, 06:21:15 PM
I'm listening to the Bruce, Baker, Moore Rockpalast concert even as we speak.   ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2018, 10:11:41 AM
That was an underrated band. And I'm saying that as not the greatest Gary Moore fan on earth. Though every musician who has worked with him (eg Jack Bruce, Don Airey, Bob Daisley, Neil Carter, Cozy Powell, Roger Glover, Jon Hiseman, Tony Visconti, Glenn Hughes) is full of praise for his talent. I find his note-for-note intensity grating after a while. Give me Alvin Lee's playfulness anytime - Moore just plays every note dead-serious and as if his life (and that of the world!) depends on it. But no doubt a talented, immediately recognizable guitarist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 23, 2018, 12:00:04 PM
I did post one of those interviews here several months ago in which Jack said he preferred playing with Gary Moore best of all.  There is some great stuff out there.  Since Robin Trower reminds me of Hendrix so much, his playing with Jack has always been fantastic to listen to.  But lately I've been noticing how free and spontaneous Jack Bruce's playing was with Leslie West.  After listening to that closely, that has been one of the biggest surprises of all.  Of course part of that could be that in some of the recordings the bass is so loud. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 23, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
When I was a kid I had a John Entwistle album ("Too Late the Hero") that Joe Walsh played guitar on.  I forget who played drums. I think there were some plans to tour that group but it never happened.  Too bad, it was a versatile group and there were some not bad Entwistle tunes, and Walsh played well as always.

Joe Vitale was the drummer... the pic disc of the single I have is autographed...
For a bonus, this vid of the title track has decent shots of the Peter Cook Lightning bass... :D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDp7dBNZKU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 23, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
Back into Dead Meadow, since they're playing here next month! The guitarist and the bass player are still playing the same instruments they played 17 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FRCPKc6so0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2018, 06:38:16 AM
Curiosity got the better of me here... longest useage of same instruments...?
I've had the PC 40 years now, the RD I've had 39 years and my Ibanez 12 string since '81 and I know there's folks on here that have had instruments longer than me...

This guy's had a few quite a bit longer than me, and as for Ol' Hank's D28 he owns... ;)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijrkKNZRIfM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on February 24, 2018, 07:28:32 AM
Moore just plays every note dead-serious and as if his life (and that of the world!) depends on it.

That's one major reason why he is up high on my favorite guitarplayers list. I've put Paul Kossoff and Peter Green in that category as well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2018, 09:10:07 AM
Curiosity got the better of me here... longest useage of same instruments...?
I've had the PC 40 years now, the RD I've had 39 years and my Ibanez 12 string since '81 and I know there's folks on here that have had instruments longer than me...

This guy's had a few quite a bit longer than me, and as for Ol' Hank's D28 he owns... ;)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijrkKNZRIfM

I still have my first bass a 62 P I bought used in 1965
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 24, 2018, 09:36:31 AM
John Fogerty's Blue Moon Swamp. What a fun CD! There's no question where the talent was in CCR.

One of my favorites is this quirky number: Blueboy. It has a driving bass line that makes the tune work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4XFW7sZ9D0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
That's one major reason why he is up high on my favorite guitarplayers list. I've put Paul Kossoff and Peter Green in that category as well.

I do understand exactly that appeal, but I sometimes like a little light-heartedness or plain goofiness in music too. Like when Blackmore would play these amazing runs and then add some novelty melody while everyone was still gaping at the previous display of flash technique.

I also tend to favour the slight brittleness of a Strat sound in the Rory Gallagher-, Jimi Hendrix-, Ritchie Blackmore-, Eric Clapton- or Robin Trower-vein over that souped-up, ultra-sustainy sound Moore had, but that is a matter of taste.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Allman Brothers--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHy036_H4I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 26, 2018, 07:04:09 PM
I love listening to some of the old live Zappa recordings where you can hear the rest of the band snickering or laughing and sometimes FX does it it. Amidst all that serious music, it's a treat when they clown.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2018, 12:24:39 PM
Allman Brothers--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHy036_H4I

Very underrated album. People had lamentably stopped listening to new stuff from the Allmans by then, preferring the umpteenth extended version of Whipping Post, but this ditty got good reviews at the time and the band felt good about it. Their last studio album, but one they can be proud of.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 27, 2018, 01:23:18 PM
I've been guilty of overplaying old Allman Brothers songs, but I definitely appreciate this album very much. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 27, 2018, 02:47:43 PM
From their 2014 album Going Back Home

https://youtu.be/GwLeTPVuD3c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
Wow, we have real Wilko pockets of resistance here!

I'm listening to the new Queens of the Stone Age as I type. Gotta stay current, man.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lw6MZBmY-U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 27, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
I liked QOTSA a lot in their early period.  For various reasons, I stopped listening.  One thing is I didn't like Nick Oliveri getting fired.  Later, I found out it may have been justified.  Other things have happened, though, with the band which continued to bother me.  But maybe at some point I'll start listening again. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2018, 07:22:33 AM
I just bought it to see what they are currently doing. The same instigation that would lead me to buy a new Foo Fighters or Black Stone Cherry album, I'm not really emotionally invested in those bands. But I sometimes listen to music like I read the daily newspaper, more with interest than enjoyment.

I kinda liked what they did with Iggy on his last album. Quite a bit of Iggy's output is hit and miss, he shares that with Neil Young.

Just now listening to the Culture Factory remaster of Rare Earth's iconic In Concert album. Man does that sound good - even to this day, wonder how much of it was doctored, but the end justifies the means. Yeah, I'm emotionally attached to Rare Earth, especially that album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2018, 11:24:19 AM
Listening to the Warner Bros double CD remastered reissue of the Montrose debut. The bonus CD with the demos to that debut is a treasure trove, because those demos (while not as heavy and glossy as the Ted Templeman production) sound today actually less dated than the final record. I've mentioned before that this is the blueprint for Van Halen (except with a singer who could pitch a note).

The posthumous recent Montrose album with all the guest singers is worth having too. He was a very tasteful, even sparse hard rock guitarist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 28, 2018, 11:40:15 AM
I cannot stop listening to Hounds of Love by Kate Bush, it's been my most-played album of the past year.

The once-cutting-edge Fairlight samples and drum machines sound very dated, and some songs aren't much as individual songs, but it remains an amazing work as a whole; it's a great end-to-end listen rather than just a collection of singles.  There is some very nice lyrical bass playing, by several people, especially Eberhard Weber.

When I need a break from that, I've been listening to The Dreaming, her previous album, which I somehow hadn't heard until pretty recently.  It's quite a contrast: Hounds of Love is more focused on building an emotional narrative from very simple song structures, often with very simple changes or a drone throughout a song.  The Dreaming is everything plus the kitchen sink, so full of ideas it can't sit still; it was her first commercial flop at the time, but I think it's completely brilliant.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2018, 02:02:27 PM
There is still no decent remaster of it, right?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 28, 2018, 08:05:14 PM
I dunno. I ripped HoL from the CD I've had for years, I don't know if it's the original master or what.
The Dreaming I've been playing on Spotify, need to order a physical copy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 28, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
I just bought it to see what they are currently doing. The same instigation that would lead me to buy a new Foo Fighters or Black Stone Cherry album, I'm not really emotionally invested in those bands. But I sometimes listen to music like I read the daily newspaper, more with interest than enjoyment.

I kinda liked what they did with Iggy on his last album. Quite a bit of Iggy's output is hit and miss, he shares that with Neil Young.

Just now listening to the Culture Factory remaster of Rare Earth's iconic In Concert album. Man does that sound good - even to this day, wonder how much of it was doctored, but the end justifies the means. Yeah, I'm emotionally attached to Rare Earth, especially that album.

I don't get emotionally invested in bands, either.  I found out a long time ago that band members have human faults just as bad or worse than anyone else.  Josh Homme, though, especially lately has been displaying some questionable behavior.  Like bad-mouthing other bands and kicking a female photographer in the face.  Maybe it really was an accident like he said, but it definitely came across as disturbing.  However, it seems to be one of those incidents which quickly died down for whatever reason.  I can only surmise that they must have worked out the problem. 

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/josh-homme-kicks-female-photographer-in-the-head-at-kroq-acoustic-christmas-exclusive-1202635338/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2018, 06:43:03 AM
I dunno. I ripped HoL from the CD I've had for years, I don't know if it's the original master or what.
The Dreaming I've been playing on Spotify, need to order a physical copy.

HoL would really deserve a lavish deluxe double or even triple CD/Bluray treatment, with studio outtakes and alternative versions, demos and all. It's one of the period-defining albums of the 80ies. I have the CD that has been available for a long time, but I believe that album would really sonically explode if you heard it in, say, 5.1, a format that doesn't work for most rock music (to my ears at least), but just seems to be made for Katie's aural landscapes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 01, 2018, 08:43:02 AM
I don't get emotionally invested in bands, either.  I found out a long time ago that band members have human faults just as bad or worse than anyone else.  Josh Homme, though, especially lately has been displaying some questionable behavior.  Like bad-mouthing other bands and kicking a female photographer in the face.  Maybe it really was an accident like he said, but it definitely came across as disturbing.  However, it seems to be one of those incidents which quickly died down for whatever reason.  I can only surmise that they must have worked out the problem. 

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/josh-homme-kicks-female-photographer-in-the-head-at-kroq-acoustic-christmas-exclusive-1202635338/

Homme has always seemed like a real douche bag, but I only know what I see in the press. I do tend to like his music, but the only thing I've been inspired enough to buy was Them Crooked Vultures. I should check out the Iggy thing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2018, 08:53:55 AM
Like Steve Wilson or Todd Rundgren, he puts his stamp on everything he does regardless the moniker, but the Pop collaboration was a good fit. Here they were - consciously so - obviously in Bowie tribute mood, worse things can happen IMHO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8TmlS20ZA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 01, 2018, 09:15:33 AM
HoL would really deserve a lavish deluxe double or even triple CD/Bluray treatment, with studio outtakes and alternative versions, demos and all. It's one of the period-defining albums of the 80ies. I have the CD that has been available for a long time, but I believe that album would really sonically explode if you heard it in, say, 5.1, a format that doesn't work for most rock music (to my ears at least), but just seems to be made for Katie's aural landscapes.

Now that would be interesting.

Per this article, there were 8-track demos that were transferred to 24 or 48 and used as bed tracks to enhance, rather than starting from scratch.
I wonder if those 8-track tapes still exist??
http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/this-girl-is-very-very-tough-the-untold-story-of-kate-bush-s-hounds-of-love-4812
 
There's also a 1986 12" single remake of "Hounds of Love"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R86V64GLq4

And the 2012 remix of "Running up that Hill" which is pitched down with a new vocal added:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLd3YS7gBI

As for outtakes, I haven't turned up anything about any. I think what's on the album is what there is.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 01, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
Homme has always seemed like a real douche bag, but I only know what I see in the press. I do tend to like his music, but the only thing I've been inspired enough to buy was Them Crooked Vultures. I should check out the Iggy thing.

That's all I know, too, is from what I've read.  I agree the music is good.  It's a good representative from that genre.  I just liked them better with Nick Oliveri, like I was saying.  For a while, I was not pleased with him leaving the band.  But after reading more details it began to look like it was Josh Homme who was right in the matter. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2018, 09:50:39 AM
As I type, the new Satriani album is playing on my office stereo - with Glenn Hughes on (as is his style: urgently and assertively played) bass (yes, you caught me, that is why I bought it) and his buddy Chad Smith from that other unknown Californication band, the one with the socks, on drums. It's lovely music (dynamic, light and shade and not samey at all), but guitar instrumental music and me ...  :rolleyes:, I am forever thinking "What an awesome backing track, now when do the vocals come in again?"  :mrgreen: If Satch had handed all his guitar melodies (very hummable) over to Glenn and said "write some lyrics to this", this would have been such an excellent comtemporary rock album with great vocals, a hot rhythm section and a, yes, tasteful and accomplished lead guitarist.

They should rush-release a "+ VOCALS!" version and I'd be happy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 01, 2018, 10:13:30 AM
Got Gregg Allman's "Southern Blood" in my office computer right now.

The recording of the band sounds really good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2018, 10:24:37 AM
Yup, that's a warm-sounding album. Nice way to say good-bye.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2018, 10:28:01 AM

And the 2012 remix of "Running up that Hill" which is pitched down with a new vocal added:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLd3YS7gBI


I like that even better than the original - and that is saying something!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 02, 2018, 12:15:25 AM
Hydra--an obscure 70s band which I know almost nothing about.  They seem to be a lesser Southern version of Grand Funk Railroad.  The bassist does the vocals. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiE-XW-I2TY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 02, 2018, 08:09:15 AM
but guitar instrumental music and me ...  :rolleyes:, I am forever thinking "What an awesome backing track, now when do the vocals come in again?"  :mrgreen: If Satch had handed all his guitar melodies (very hummable) over to Glenn and said "write some lyrics to this", this would have been such an excellent comtemporary rock album with great vocals, a hot rhythm section and a, yes, tasteful and accomplished lead guitarist.

They should rush-release a "+ VOCALS!" version and I'd be happy.

Joe was laughing about the fact that he hired one of the greatest rock vocalists ever to play bass on an instrumental album.  ;D I kind of fell off fro the genre by the end of the 90s, but still like to indulge once in a while. It's best experienced live or on video. My original band Nomadic has been doing some shows with a Steve Vai tribute band, and it's pretty inspiring to watch.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Strangely, with Vai's work, I don't miss the vocals as much. His sound, his approach, he's a lot more "un-rock" than Satriani and his compositions are that way too. Vai to me is more like a keyboard player and that is not knocking him, he's one hell of an instrumentalist and has a recognizable sound all of his own.

In a rock setting, I would have loved to see him with Alcatrazz (where his techno & effects guitarship really worked). I did see him with Whitesnake in 1989/90 - man, I could have certainly done without that. :-\  In comparison to him, even Vandenberg (not my favourite WS guitarist either) sounded as earthy as John Lee Hooker.

Now listening to mid-seventies live recordings of Chappo's Streetwalkers. Good band they were, the ole goat! They had a very special twin guitar sound, courtesy of Charlie Whitney and Bob Tench, something I haven't heard that way before (and as you might have gathered by now: I listen to a lot of twin guitar harmony music!  :mrgreen: ).

Just got the Steven Wilson Remix of Jethro Tull's Heavy Horses in, gotta give that a spin too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 02, 2018, 10:48:36 AM
Speaking of rock instrumentals, I put on "Shut up n play your guitar" yesterday. I do enjoy Zappa's leads.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2018, 11:49:00 AM
That is one of my all-time favourite put-downs: In a 1976 review of a Rush concert in the UK, an NME-scribe wrote the following vitriolic (as only Brits can be) lines: "Alex Lifeson is a competent guitarist within the limits of the genre. I've been to too many Frank Zappa concerts to say more."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 02, 2018, 03:02:01 PM
Hydra--an obscure 70s band which I know almost nothing about.  They seem to be a lesser Southern version of Grand Funk Railroad.  The bassist does the vocals. 

I knew about them but never heard them before. Very good album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 02, 2018, 03:10:53 PM
I usually don't like much of the modern metal scene but there's something about this I can't resist. Probably the combination of agressiveness and hooky melodic refrains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VFg44H2z8&list=RDl9VFg44H2z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2yuGgp_U8&index=6&list=RDl9VFg44H2z8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2018, 05:16:22 PM
I've seen'em as openers for Priest - not a trace of Pantera in them.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: But they do not fail to entertain. Yet when Halford sings the second verse in the second vid, it's a different world, he automatically catches demands your attention.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2018, 05:20:23 PM
That Heavy Horses remix is - as usual with Steven Wilson - ear-opening. And the bonus 1978 concert in Berne, Switzerland, which (after heavy doctoring) provided some tracks for the Bursting Out Live album, shows Tull in all their (now undoctored) live glory and especially Glascock's excellent bass playing.

I never knew that something as banal as a tooth abscess triggered his deteriorating health and that heart valve (he had an innate defect there) operation which in the aftermath did him in (aided by his irresponsible life style for a man with a heart valve problem).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
Listening to the new Michael Schenker - with four different singers (Doogie White, Robin McAuley, Graham Bonnet, Gary Barden), of course the Bonnet tracks kill'em all.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 03, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
If it's anything like this tune, I bet it's pretty good. Really nice ripping guitar solo too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuqZLy8-keU&feature=youtu.be
BTW, any idea what this explorer bass is here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv3VDcjq0YM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 03, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
Saturday morning music.

https://youtu.be/d2_Me2V2jyQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on March 03, 2018, 11:59:07 AM
Listening to the new Michael Schenker - with four different singers (Doogie White, Robin McAuley, Graham Bonnet, Gary Barden), of course the Bonnet tracks kill'em all.

Shencker, with Doogie, played up my part of the world about a year back, with a certain renowned German rhythm section... the drummer was kind enough to sign his book for me and was honoured as he asked my opinion of Mr Shencker as he was so pleased with how on form he was, and I could only agree... an evening of MSG, UFO, Scorpions and original material... stunning...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2018, 03:14:20 PM
That Explorer bass is an Ibanez, Chris Glen has been playing it for several decades now. It's his gigging bass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on March 06, 2018, 03:09:31 PM
That Explorer bass is an Ibanez, Chris Glen has been playing it for several decades now. It's his gigging bass.
wow I always thought it was a Gibson,  and I've played that bass, I stood in for him once at linecheck with SAHB
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 06, 2018, 05:52:34 PM
Interesting. Seems like a nice enough bass, even though it's another pj.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on March 07, 2018, 11:33:13 AM
A buddy and I went to see The Dixie Dregs last night (technically, The Dregs now).
I quickly realized that when I went to see them open for Santana around 1990, I didn't go to see Santana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN0qYUeV0KQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on March 07, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
I saw the original line up in 77 or 78 in a triple bill with Grinderswitch and (the amazing) Sea Level... stunning gig, simply stunning...
Is Steve Morse playing with them (the Dregs) again...?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 08, 2018, 08:22:07 AM
This is the full, original lineup of the Dixie Dregs from their first album Free Fall. I'm tempted to grab some last minute tix for the Chicago show.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2018, 07:54:19 PM
I've seen the Steve Morse Band, but never the Dregs. Not even sure whether they ever toured Germany.

Still no vocals?  :mrgreen:

Never a fashionable band, it's great they still have a(n all male?) following. People say that Steve's arm condition is serious and worsening and that he only has a few more years to play. For someone like him who hardly puts the guitar out of hand that must be devastating. There is a question mark whether he will even be able to record another album with Purple and the Dregs stuff is of course technically a lot more demanding.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on March 11, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
This is the full, original lineup of the Dixie Dregs from their first album Free Fall. I'm tempted to grab some last minute tix for the Chicago show.

Do it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on March 11, 2018, 01:56:48 PM
I've seen the Steve Morse Band, but never the Dregs. Not even sure whether they ever toured Germany.

Still no vocals?  :mrgreen:

Never a fashionable band, it's great they still have a(n all male?) following. People say that Steve's arm condition is serious and worsening and that he only has a few more years to play. For someone like him who hardly puts the guitar out of hand that must be devastating. There is a question mark whether he will even be able to record another album with Purple and the Dregs stuff is of course technically a lot more demanding.

I think starting with "Free Fall" they started incorporating vocals in some songs in an effort to broaden their fan base. There were plenty of women at that show though! When I was in college we had to do some sort of project/presentation. Mine was on ELP but a biker chick in the glass chose the Dregs and did her presentation on them. It was great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on March 11, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
Yesterday I drove three hours to see Nightwish in Charlotte. The line to get in was around the block and the place was packed. After our tickets had been scanned, every person coming into the venue were given a new double CD of remastered works from '96-'15.
They played for two hours, smiled and joked with each other a lot and frequently waved to fans.

It was great!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on March 25, 2018, 05:41:16 PM
Currently listening to Goat, a band I had never heard of before today. They are great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaR0GZMWbr0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pekka on March 26, 2018, 01:24:34 AM
Eberhard Weber's "Fluid Rustle", "Yellow Fields" and "Silent Feet"
Philip Catherine's "September Man"
Terje Rypdal's "Waves"
1972-75 Jethro Tull plus "Heavy Horses - New Shoes"
Zamla Mammaz Manna's "Familjesprickor" and "Ödet" (a track)
Pat Travers' albums with Mars on bass
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 26, 2018, 08:53:06 AM
Interesting band that Goat is. Have to admit I'm slightly disappointed Tom Brady wasn't in the band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 26, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
Currently listening to Goat, a band I had never heard of before today. They are great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaR0GZMWbr0

What is this, dystopian tribal rock, a new genre?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2018, 05:06:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdBvTvxHy7E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Stjofön Big on March 27, 2018, 08:58:25 AM
Here, where I live, Sweden, no-one knows about this guy, B W Stevenson. But in -77 I bougth a vinyl 33 by the man. We be sailin', is the title. Very nice record! Golden voice! Though not heard in my country. So there was none to talk to about the LP, other than guests with big ears.
And then, one day, I read about B W.
In the Bass outpost...
Great place to hang around! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rS9nAAQcA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 27, 2018, 11:08:30 AM
He had a great voice and he was a very good songwriter too. Gone way too soon.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 27, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Got "Asleep at the Wheel " on in the office now
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on March 27, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR5Smad969k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 27, 2018, 03:30:12 PM
A live recording from Steve Harley/Cockney Rebel, circa 1984 in Camden, London ... with most of the backing band looking period-correct like extras from Flock of Seagulls/The Alarm.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7yL50sePv4&list=PL32860BEB824425CB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qMdITBvLGQ

I like Harley's "pained" and some people might say "affected" singing. This was at the beginning of his comeback for gigs after he had spent much of the late 70ies/early 80ies raising his children.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 27, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
Was just listening to Emerson, lake & Palmer play the Peter Gunn theme.  Loved it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v8VvJjM65I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 28, 2018, 10:32:44 AM
Rediscovering some of the noisier/sludgier/dronier sounds of my youth on a recent road trip to a recording session:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhYQIGta0yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncmCTvJoyDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSbgLqTo_Ac

As well as, just for juxtaposition, the later solo stuff of Lisa Carver (aka Lisa Suckdog):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSg1JayHfyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCxdR8GQULc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
OMG, "Fan Club" was the first British punk single I ever heard (on the radio), up to then I had only heard and bought The Ramones debut. The Sex Pistols were all over the (English music) papers at that time, but you never got to hear any music from them because notoriety was more important to McLaren than his proteges actually putting something down on vinyl. So I actually heard music by The Damned and The Clash before I finally got to hear Never Mind The Bollocks.

And I remember thinking when I heard that Damned song that Joey Ramone was "somehow the more melodic singer" - no doubt my nasty BOF instincts at work failing to recognize true art!  :mrgreen: Vanian was a wonderfully English vaudeville character though. I loved what he did years later to Barry Ryan. And he could sing by then too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VVcFC9YF8I

Another thing I remember from the very early Damned was Rat Scabies' (drummer, great name!) snappy answer to an NME scribe questioning his street credibility why he had only a rubber rat and not a real dead one dangling from his drum kit: "A real rat would smell too much. You'd need to change it all the time."  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
Listening to the soundtrack CD from Glen Campbell's good-bye movie which features this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVJEn9wk9Y

I know, not real country by the strict definitions of this "Grand Ole Opry of Fora"  :rolleyes: at all, but lovely just the same.  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on March 28, 2018, 11:48:03 AM
I listened to the radio on the way home... RESPECT by Aretha was followed by Roam by the B52's... the show's theme was songs with a single word in the title...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 28, 2018, 11:56:02 AM
Mia Zapata, another light gone way too soon. Her murder went unsolved for years but they finally got the bastard.

https://youtu.be/bum-_HklFic
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2018, 01:18:35 PM
Eddie Jobson's Zinc/"Green Album" - gotta do something for my PROG credentials. I didn't even know he could sing (bit too Jon Anderson'esque for my taste, but still).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHX_FpAplDg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 29, 2018, 12:33:10 AM
Cozy Powell, Jack Bruce, Max Middleton, Clem Clempson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2UCPKj-zw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pekka on March 29, 2018, 03:10:48 AM
Eddie Jobson's Zinc/"Green Album" - gotta do something for my PROG credentials. I didn't even know he could sing (bit too Jon Anderson'esque for my taste, but still).


It's his voice and singing style that put me off this album every time I try it again. He can sing but it's somehow annoying. A shame really, it's a pretty good sequel to his UK stuff and Jethro Tull's "A".

Jobbo is still a mighty fine singer when compared to Steve Howe. Yesterday I listened "Beginnings" for the first time and probably for the last too. Ouch. He should've stuck to background vocals and hire a Graham Nash or Roger Hodgson.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 29, 2018, 07:30:30 AM
Eddie Jobson's Zinc/"Green Album" - gotta do something for my PROG credentials. I didn't even know he could sing (bit too Jon Anderson'esque for my taste, but still).

Loved that album. It's very dated sounding now, but still... I was impressed with his singing, especially for a "first time", but I get how it could be a turn-off. Wish there had been a follow up. The next one was on new age label Private Music, then he went off to soundtrack land and UK revivals.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 29, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
Been listening a lot (again) to Del Amitri lately. I have their CDs in my car and just don't feel like putting any other bands on, because the Dels were so incredibly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOPTUaCtIdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox57hdgeAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwASZpIHKLY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 29, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
OMG, "Fan Club" was the first British punk single I ever heard (on the radio), up to then I had only heard and bought The Ramones debut. The Sex Pistols were all over the (English music) papers at that time, but you never got to hear any music from them because notoriety was more important to McLaren than his proteges actually putting something down on vinyl. So I actually heard music by The Damned and The Clash before I finally got to hear Never Mind The Bollocks.

And I remember thinking when I heard that Damned song that Joey Ramone was "somehow the more melodic singer" - no doubt my nasty BOF instincts at work failing to recognize true art!  :mrgreen: Vanian was a wonderfully English vaudeville character though. I loved what he did years later to Barry Ryan. And he could sing by then too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VVcFC9YF8I

Another thing I remember from the very early Damned was Rat Scabies' (drummer, great name!) snappy answer to an NME scribe questioning his street credibility why he had only a rubber rat and not a real dead one dangling from his drum kit: "A real rat would smell too much. You'd need to change it all the time."  :mrgreen:

That first damned record still holds up IMHO.  That is a great Scabies story, though - not sure if I ever heard it before.  Sorry, but later Damned just got a little bland for me - it wasn't the same without Captain Sensible.  Also their first guitarist was really good.

Yeah, Ramones were more melodic - their influences after all (Do you remember Hullabaloo, Upbeat, Shinding and Ed Sullivan too? Do you remember rock'n'roll radio?) included Motown as well as Soul.  I love Dave's vocals in the early days and would argue that he had the sense to not try to do what he could not do well, whereas Joey just decided doing it badly was his thing (and I liked that too; I mean, he wasn't half as bad as Mick Jones on later Big Audio Dynamite records - some of that I can't even begin to be an apologist for).  Vanian always had the more powerful voice and I suspect he could have sung better than that even in the early days, but that wasn't what he was going for.

I am a little surprised that Gila Copter didn't bait you into any comments about Timmothy Leary.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 30, 2018, 04:18:34 PM
90s UK time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTcIzLk880

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r-RkW4YzCg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Stjofön Big on March 31, 2018, 01:39:21 AM
Love the drumming on this one. Guess it's Hal Blaine? So much energy, I almost start jumping when out walkin with this in my ears. And it's very seldom wrong with a 12-stringer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeKGPhcSPHk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2018, 01:27:45 PM
my favorite Byrds tune.
I think that I saw Hal interviewed on you tube once and he mentioned it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Darrol on April 03, 2018, 03:19:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/qM7iLbFXQF8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on April 03, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
We still play "Feel a Whole Lot Better"...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 03, 2018, 02:39:04 PM
Cozy Powell, Jack Bruce, Max Middleton, Clem Clempson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2UCPKj-zw

You forgot Don Airey! Tsk, tsk, tsk ... The way that keyboarder moved and played on the right, I immediately thought that it is a young Don Airey. Middleton is at the left sitting with the hat and playing electric piano.

Cozy was always more fun to watch as a drummer than actually hear (bit heavy-handed for my taste). He excelled at those fast shuffles - it got him the job with Rainbow because he played a fast shuffle at his audition for more than half an hour without ever tiring or slowing down, all other drummers had given up by then.

That said, this particular song I always thought to be more than a bit "Cozy Cobham", like all 70ies drummers he must have listened Spectrum - Cobham's solo debut - to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Nmr9VgcqU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 03, 2018, 04:53:05 PM
I was mostly focusing on the second song.  Also, I was trying to be brief.  Originally, I just listed Cozy and Jack.  Then I realized I had to include Max Middleton since he was the composer of "The Loner."  After that I added Clempson.  If you look at the "Over the Top" album as a whole, Airey's contribution is notable, since there are only 7 songs but he was the writer or co-writer of 3 of them.  Plus, he played keyboards, of course, on 6 of the songs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 03, 2018, 08:21:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/qM7iLbFXQF8

Darrol! Where have you been?

I like that tune.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 03, 2018, 08:23:01 PM
Wish I could play guitar like Blind Blake.

https://youtu.be/TTP-8VfIvn0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Darrol on April 04, 2018, 12:06:19 AM
Darrol! Where have you been?

I like that tune.
Hey Dave. I was wondering if my resurfacing would be noticed. I kind of just fell off the grid in terms of visiting here as I haven't played in years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on April 04, 2018, 12:44:35 PM
Once a player, always a player... ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 04, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
Once a player, always a player... ;)

That's true.  An expiration date for this does not exist. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 04, 2018, 08:37:54 PM
Hey Dave. I was wondering if my resurfacing would be noticed. I kind of just fell off the grid in terms of visiting here as I haven't played in years.

You know you're still welcome anytime. You never know, you might pick it up in the future.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on April 05, 2018, 07:42:49 AM
I'll be listening to some Slayer, Lamb of God, Anthrax, Testament and Napalm Death on July 26th because my band will be opening the show!
https://www.facebook.com/mucklers
Did you know Steve DiGiorgio recorded the last Testament album with a stock 78' Ric 4001?
https://www.bassplayer.com/artists/steve-digiorgio-back-to-basics-with-testament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeIgFsU0x4I
Uwe did you know Slayer's last album went to #1 on the album charts in Germany?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rL14MkbQp4
Should be lots of fun. Hope some of you can make it, or the tour at least. It's Slayer's farewell tour.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 05, 2018, 08:45:45 AM
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Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 09, 2018, 11:05:47 AM
Kylie's newest. I know, not country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BDImdAfodA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_DgXvcfhYg

So what. I've always dug her, for some reason her stuff puts me in a good mood (no, I don't think she's particularly hot, not my type, I like tall women, she is way too tiny/petite for me). It's brainless in a good way, not as laboured and contrived as some of Madonna's stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on April 09, 2018, 01:54:01 PM
Funny that you mention Madonna.  In that "dancing" video, some of her sideways glances looked a lot like Madonna to me. Maybe it's her chin and fac, I dunno.

But those are fun tunes.  I like Dancing a lot. I can see that becoming one of the numbers people remember.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 09, 2018, 02:07:37 PM
The choreography is no doubt swiped from Ms Ciccone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRLHro9EPD0

But then that is nothing new. The little Aussie has always watched what Madonna does carefully. And while I think that Kylie is the more naturally gifted singer, Madonna has more ambition in reinventing herself and projecting art.

Now listening to the new Blackberry Smoke, they sound more earthy again, I found that lacking a bit on the last two albums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esi4ioCDTKE

And this sounds a bit "Stones go Garth Brooks" or the other way around ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eb_hseVdyM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2018, 08:23:59 AM
Walking Papers - Duff McKagan's hobby outfit outside his (regained) day job. I bought the debut album of a few years ago out of curiosity and .... wow!!! Best musical outfit I've heard Duff in ever (and I liked Velvet Revolver better than GnR, I can take Axl's voice only in small doses), singer is great, his voice reminds me of Phil Mogg (UFO). The music is a wonderful mix of Nick Cave, Rival Sons and Gaslight Anthem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWIl3J3iNnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZe9e4-DmtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGaF3elVUYk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 11, 2018, 07:43:02 AM
Duff looks so bored in that Leave me in the Dark vid.

Darrol! Where have you been?

I like that tune.

Yeah.  Good chill groove.  I haven't liked anything this radio in forever.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Barklessdog on April 11, 2018, 05:20:08 PM
Welcome back Darryl!

I have recently resurfaced as well, like a turd in a swimming pool!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2018, 05:57:45 PM
Wish I could play guitar like Blind Blake.

https://youtu.be/TTP-8VfIvn0

Really nice!  Can you imagine how nasty those strings were compared to modern gear?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 13, 2018, 05:40:57 AM
In the car: Allman Bros. Live at the Cow Palace in California - that New Year's Eve '72 gig (a radio broadcast at the time) and while for some people no post-Duane and -Berry line-up can hold a candle, I find Chuck Leavell's piano playing "just w-w-w-wow!" It's a pleasant excess at jamming, 20 and 30 minute songs abound on the 4 CD set (with great sonic quality) and - no wonder  :mrgreen: - Jerry Garcia is among the special guests.

Now in the office: Del Amitri. I was totally unaware of their music until a few days ago, Rob's post made me check them out. The kind of music Edith loves (electrified folk music) - Rob, you have a real girlie-taste!  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on April 13, 2018, 07:55:40 AM
Just came across this singer/songwriter. Good songs and I don't know who the bassist is but I like him/her.
https://open.spotify.com/album/4wPgYiURhjADkz9KyIF2w1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pekka on April 13, 2018, 11:49:10 AM
Bumped into the name on a latest Mojo mag. It was mentioned alongside Andy Pratt about hippie singer-songwriters who made lavish albums that ended up almost prog, so of course I had to find out more. His voice reminds me of a less abrasive Shawn Phillips mixed with David Pack of Ambrosia. This song is pure Joni Mitchell circa '75 with Squire on bass instead of Jaco or Max Bennett. I believe John Guerin is on drums on this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qegTCj7Hi4w

Interesting cover art. :)

This earlier song is more British sounding with great bass sound from Lee Sklar (I believe):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Wg8CkV_Gc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 13, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
In the car: Allman Bros. Live at the Cow Palace in California - that New Year's Eve '72 gig (a radio broadcast at the time) and while for some people no post-Duane and -Berry line-up can hold a candle, I find Chuck Leavell's piano playing "just w-w-w-wow!" It's a pleasant excess at jamming, 20 and 30 minute songs abound on the 4 CD set (with great sonic quality) and - no wonder  :mrgreen: - Jerry Garcia is among the special guests.

Now in the office: Del Amitri. I was totally unaware of their music until a few days ago, Rob's post made me check them out. The kind of music Edith loves (electrified folk music) - Rob, you have a real girlie-taste!  :P

George C. is a big Del Amitri fan too. I certainly wouldn't call it electrified folk music. They got heavy airplay on modern rock stations in the late 80s to mid 90s.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
Riffless chord strummers with lots of songs in major keys equates "electrified folk music" in my book. It's what girls like, loud vocals, strummy guitar, no riffs to get in the way and music not too dark.

But Del Amitri are pleasant to listen to and know a tune or two, just not strikingly original if I may say so.

But we all come from somewhere, and in my case I was of course weaned on a certain type of late 60ies/70ies rock where the first few seconds are generally determined by a sequence of instrumental notes (guitar- or keyboard-played) which are the signature card of the song - think of Alice Cooper's School's Out, Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild, Cream's Sunshine of Your Love, The Who's I Can't Explain, The Stone's Brown Sugar, The Door's Light My Fire, Hendrix' Spanish Castle Magic, Ten Years After's I'm Going Home, Black Sabbath's Sweet leaf, Free's Alright Now, The Beatles' Come Together, Deep Purple's Smoke on the Water, Bad Co's Can't Get Enough, Uriah Heep's Gypsy, David Bowie's Jean Genie, Mott the Hoople's All The Young Dudes, Argent's Hold Your Head Up, Zep's Kashmir - the tell-tale riff. It's a characteristic of music generally termed as rock or hard rock - but not always: think of Stevie Wonder's Superstition - and of course it is loaned/ripped off from the blues.

It's gone out of style - the last really riffy commercially widespread song I can think of was Lenny Kravitz' Are You Gonna Go My Way with its bow to Hendrix (and that was some years ago).

Playing signature riffs seems to be these days a hallmark of either bands on the Classic Rock circuit or of young bands in the retro vein niche. Everybody else tries to do without as far as chart success goes.

It's something I largely blame U2 for (and I'm only half-joking), the Edge forsook (I had to look up what the preterite of forsaken actually is, "forsaked" didn't sound right!) the guitar riff and made mere chord playing with some echo and delay trendy.  :-\

While I'm writing this, I'm listening to one of the more recent studio albums of Albert Lee & Hogan's Heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYOykn3ht4k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Now listening to a reissue of the two albums of Dust - with Kenny Aaronson (who I once saw with Billy Sqier and who was among the most impressive rock bassists I ever saw) and the inimitable Marky Ramone (who could play drum rolls after all!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4KnOFDxW0c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
Listening now to Brinsley Schwarz - a young Nick Lowe had such remarkable ears (and no fear of showing them!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMYc5U_jIdc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 18, 2018, 03:00:48 PM
Listening to my favorite band from southwest Louisiana.

https://youtu.be/-ArBiqi8Wk8

https://youtu.be/6O5y2sE2-2w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on April 19, 2018, 04:57:34 PM
 I have been listening to nothing but New Model Army for the last week.
 I have done my usual thing of seeing a band I was into in my youth play live and had to go back and work through   all the stuff they've done since I stopped paying attention.
 but what A gig,
I have been to many, many gigs but this one was a serious contender for the best ever.
 
 The basic Premise was that for them the best bit of a gig is when the band get quiet during a ballad and they can hear the crowd singing along above what there playing. So they set out to see if they could have a whole show  like that.
 They played in the round with a tiny PA in a gorgeous circular church. With the ticket came a songbook with all the lyrics, the idea being that we are the singers for the evening.

 I cant even begin to describe the euphoria  of singing along with a crowd of die hard fans who had travelled from all over the world to be there.
 sometimes everything just comes together for  a few perfect magical moments, Last week it lasted two hours.
 I'm still buzzing from it a week later

and thanks to the magic of the internet I dont have to try and find the words to describe it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgxQiWy0jPs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Andrew on April 20, 2018, 09:07:41 PM
Been on a serious Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds kick of late. Anyone here a fan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1KWmP_U_4g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on April 21, 2018, 08:29:47 AM
Nick Cave is one of those guys like Bob Dylan; there's so much there and as an added bonus, the man has an amazing voice. Good stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 21, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
     
Quote
Anyone here a fan?       
Yes , since Nick the Stripper.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on April 24, 2018, 07:46:29 PM
I was listening to an oldies station on the way home tonight, and Mitch Ryder's CC Rider/Jenny Take a Ride came on.  I just had to crank it up LOUD.

Give this a listen, and see if you agree with me that the bass online on CC Rider isn't just darn near perfect!!  It's exactly as much as it needs to be, and no more. The bass is hard to hear on a laptop, but it sounds great on decent speakers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggaKJyx_iRU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Stjofön Big on April 25, 2018, 12:55:14 AM
Agree, and absolutely, concerning Mitch Ryder's bass player. Perfect. And the drummer, too! Together they cook. Cook, cook, and cook! Love that tune. Everything about that version could drive anyone to speed beyond insanity's borders.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 25, 2018, 02:51:00 AM
That is one of my favorite songs. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 25, 2018, 06:44:03 AM
My Wishbone Ash box has arrived and I am now being dreched with twin lead guitar harmonies from something like 33 or so CDs!

And I also listened to the Spiders of Mars (sans Ronno who was with The 'Unter back then) sole album post-Bowie which has recently become available again. Some very nice (and prominent) bass playing by Trevor B. on that. Songwritingwise, they were a bit too varied for their own good though. You can only get away with that if you are David Bowie. Allegations that Bolder "couldn't play funky" are, however, refuted once and for all with this album (audio of the CD much better than what you hear on tinny YouTube).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVcBmwOV8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKq6dez4tV8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 25, 2018, 04:07:12 PM
Mitch and the Detroit Wheels were a really big deal for a while in the late 60s.

I believe the bassist was James McCallister (https://www.facebook.com/628232967278101/photos/a.628398573928207.1073741829.628232967278101/679629998805064/?type=3&theater) during the period of their big hits,
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on May 04, 2018, 08:39:34 AM
Well, last night was the Temperance Movement, Seether, and headliners Nickelback on the first date of their European tour in Glasgow courtesy of my daughter as a last minute purchase... great night out... even my daughter said she'd like to see them again, which is most out of character... not everyones cup of tea round here but... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 04, 2018, 11:13:24 AM
That sounds like a good combo alright! BTW the much derided Nickelback have the reputation of treating their opening acts especially graciously.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on May 07, 2018, 09:45:09 AM
That they did, Sir... that they did... Temperance Movement were a local, last minute addition... they went down well with the locals, understandably, and even allowed them some space on the merch stands...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2018, 03:50:49 PM
En Vogue's newest (I've had a crush on them ever since "Giving Him Something He Can Feel", but then I like The Supremes, The Three Degrees, Labelle, The Pointer Sisters and Sister Sledge too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geg4yDxZZDs

which is pretty varied for what is essentially a dance record (the above track is not typical for the album).

And then the 2017 and 2018 Ric Ocasek-sanctioned remasters of The Cars ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvzMF8EWero

which are brilliant (plus interesting demos and alt. takes)! What's cute about the above vid is that you can see Greg Hawkes, the keyboarder, valiantly counting a 4/4 with his free hand.  :mrgreen: Why? Bass and drums are in 5/4 in the verse, but the harmony instruments all play 4/4 so the repeating bass figure pops up at unexpected places all the time (hence I can't blame him for counting!) - which also makes the straight bridge and chorus such a relief. Smart! A polymeter in a hit single, it can be done! Eat your collective hearts out Geddy, Alex and Neil ...  :rimshot:

When I first heard Touch & Go from a car radio in Detroit in 1980 I thought it was one of the most ingenious and clever (and I don't take credit for recognizing the polymeter back then, I just realized something weird going on), yet instantly memorable pieces of music I had ever heard. That view hasn't changed to this day. And the guitar solo is 2 die 4 2!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
Oh yeah, and the 2CD Best of Nightwish, mandatory listening for all Creationists and Richard Dawkins-doubters!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb1p8fm7Ag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTAaEHiGjvU

Whenever I see (and hear!) Floor (a countrywoman of Rob and the Warwickster btw), I muse whether Stacia of Hawkwind got witness protection in The Netherlands for ratting about Hawkwind's drug habits.  :mrgreen:

En Vogue, The Cars and Nightwish - I'm either pretty varied or indiscriminate, you takes your choices.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on May 10, 2018, 08:31:32 AM
Thanks for the Cars post. Those first 2 albums are really great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 10, 2018, 02:21:53 PM
Ric Ocasek is an American gem. Bastard son of Brian Wilson and David Byrne!

These first two albums were of course iconic, but I also like the "difficult" Panorama and the Mutt Lange opus Heartbeat City - though the production does reek of Def Leppard at times!

I love Hawke's keyboard work. That is pleasingly playful nerdy, yet smart.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 10, 2018, 07:40:40 PM
Let's not forget Ben Orr.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 11, 2018, 07:13:19 AM
Of course not. I have a hard time telling his voice and Ric Ocasek's apart - Orr sounds like Ocasek if Ocasek could sing.  :mrgreen: I always thought "You're just what I needed" and "Drive" were sung by Ocasek until I saw videos of them performing those songs live (I'm not aware that The Cars toured Germany - ever). Initially I thought "Ocasek, the ole prima donna, doesn't want to sing his own songs anymore, and the bassist is doing a good job aping him".  :mrgreen:

I can relate to Orr's bass playing a lot. He does things that make sense to me. And back in the 80ies when my bass playing was still more New Wavish in style, there were a lot of similarities.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 11, 2018, 07:57:15 AM
Just now: The new release of Chicago's '72 Japanese tour. Excellent sound quality. A young bearded Peter Cetera with his EB-3 Slothead.

He was a skillful player (and you hear him well on the recording). Even though Chicago as an ensemble did not exactly achieve Blood, Sweat & Tears tightness (if you compare live recordings of BST from around the same time). ;) There is always a certain charming sloppiness to Chicago live, BST had more that "serious and seasoned jazz muso"-thing going.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 11, 2018, 09:14:57 AM
Just now: The new release of Chicago's '72 Japanese tour. Excellent sound quality. A young bearded Peter Cetera with his EB-3 Slothead.

He was a skillful player (and you hear him well on the recording). Even though Chicago as an ensemble did not exactly achieve Blood, Sweat & Tears tightness (if you compare live recordings of BST from around the same time). ;) There is always a certain charming sloppiness to Chicago live, BST had more that "serious and seasoned jazz muso"-thing going.

Okay, now you have me listening to BS&T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtxguEbloM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 11, 2018, 11:34:27 AM
I saw BS&T while in college - David Clayton-Thomas had a raw vitality and energy that reached off the stage. A really powerful singer whose sense of power could be felt by the audience.  From his website, sounds like he's still going strong.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2018, 02:38:07 PM
Okay, now you have me listening to BS&T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtxguEbloM

That's one hot performance, Clayton-Thomas belting it out against, over and within those intricate and demanding horn arrangements that went far beyond what was allowed as pop at the time. Vibrant and ebullient.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2018, 02:40:56 PM
Some modern/contemporary PROG right now: Lifesigns ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm__1UdPXpk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
Just listening to the comparatively recent Foo Fighters.  :-\

I must be getting old, but a lot of that ultra-distorted sound I find physically painful to listen to. There, I said it.

For stadium grunge pop metal, I think I'll stick with Nickelback. This is now my fourth or fifth Foo Fighters album, yet again it fails to click. Their neo-Beatlish backing vox and general influences are just about their only saving grace for me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2018, 05:34:37 PM
PS: This I like (for obvious reasons), not representative for the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MkX3LKBAp8

If I understand the YouTube comments correctly, then this song features Macca on drums and has the Foo drummer singing. If that is true, then I grant them a tongue-in-cheek humour Nickelback would most likely be incapable of.

More Beatles here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfSbEj93MZ8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 14, 2018, 06:13:02 PM
Don't listen if you don't like real country.

Two years ago Sarah Patrick was posting home videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MCYKz3ASYU

Then she was discovered by David Frizzell, who signed her to his label. Her first single is out, and she made her TV debut with him about 3 weeks go (music starts about 2:20)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbsRUtqbLmQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 15, 2018, 03:51:39 AM
I really like what she does, but I marvel at your definition of "real country" - to me the first song is American folk (Dolly Parton track or not) - the way she does it stripped and unaffectedly. Which opens the discussion whether "real country" is not folk, of course. But let's put it this way, this particular song (in that rendition) is more Newport Folk Festival to me than Nashville. But what does ze Kraut know!

The second song - steel guitar drenched as it is and with her delivering a more "country" vocal - is country alright, but is it really that far removed from what you would hear at a dozen Nashville radio stations playing "new country, old country, all country"? I'm not putting the song down, but it's not exactly rugged, robust or rural country to my ears. I thought "real country" was more something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE8_Qf4UQV4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXd2xjTrNXo

Or is Greg Brown more singer/songwriter than country? Now I'm all confused.  :-\

Beyond all badges, her (Ms Patrick's) debut CD will be mine, so please keep us posted.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 15, 2018, 04:59:13 AM
I can't wait for Dave's response to all this.  This should be good.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2018, 06:05:43 AM
A country song doesn't become folk just because someone does a cover solo on acoustic.

No, you'd never hear You're The Reason God Made Oklahoma on a modern country station.

Eliza Gilkyson is a folk artist. Lucinda Williams has strong country influences in a lot of her work.

Dolly Parton developed into more than strictly a country artist, but in 1973 you could only hear it on country stations, the type that played music you never hear on mainstream country stations today.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2018, 06:15:05 AM
On this morning's playlist, more David Frizzell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK_9xxGRVak

And my favorite father/daughter duet,playing to a big crowd in Germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4EKHL0iDo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 15, 2018, 06:33:44 AM
I didn't realize Mike Huckabee was back on TV. I'll have to see if I can find that TBN channel now.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2018, 08:25:20 AM
I didn't even know he had a TV show since I don't have cable. Thanks to YT, I can see a lot of the good stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 15, 2018, 08:47:44 AM
When I think old time country, I think Roy Acuff's Great Speckled Bird.  Dave has taken me to task for this, but as a guy whose radio career started by spinning country in the late 60's, I still have this association. It kinda makes my teeth hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbfQrKcVjg

I'm more a fan of what was (then) modern country for the 60's and 70's with stuff like Dick Curless, Marty Robbins and Johnny Cash. Newer stuff like "Chatahoochee" may be rather pop, but it's good music IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBzZJd-nfw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 15, 2018, 08:48:44 AM
Anything with Kendall in it is good. My first love back at TASOK, 9th/10th grade was Kendall S. from Nebraska. Sigh ... I'll never forget that first song we danced to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd__DR377Ks

(http://www.smiley.com/sites/default/files/image/cover/Lovestruck.png)

Enough of this wuss romance!!! Back to work!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 15, 2018, 10:23:31 AM
When I think old time country, I think Roy Acuff's Great Speckled Bird.  Dave has taken me to task for this, but as a guy whose radio career started by spinning country in the late 60's, I still have this association. It kinda makes my teeth hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbfQrKcVjg

I'm more a fan of what was (then) modern country for the 60's and 70's with stuff like Dick Curless, Marty Robbins and Johnny Cash. Newer stuff like "Chatahoochee" may be rather pop, but it's good music IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBzZJd-nfw

As Dave has pointed out before, the Roy Acuff song is old-time gospel, not country.  Marty Robbins is a great example, but personally I consider him "Western," not really country.  That would probably be debatable with some, though.  I've called Johnny Cash country myself, but I'd say he really can't be categorized anymore.  Dick Curless may or may not be country.  But I've been within driving distance of Nashville much of my life and I've never heard of him. 

I'm not saying a Nashville connection is a must, but it often helps.  Personally, I tend to prefer country music originating out of Texas, but I haven't heard it that much, don't know much about it and can assume it's often something considered more of a regional phenomenon.  For some that may be intentional considering that a fair number of people consider Nashville toxic. 










Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
As many years as I've been listening to radio, the only times I've ever heard The Great Speckled Bird was on Roy Acuff's live segment on the Opry. It may have been played on a gospel show on a country station, but not on regular commercial country. And Roy Acuff's commercial popularity was pretty well over by about 1950.

I don't understand why you keep bringing up Dick Curless. Yes, I know you liked him, that's fine, but he was a very minor personality. I could rattle off the names of a couple dozen 60s-70s minor artists I like that were more representative of what was being played on commercial country stations than Dick Curless.

Marty Robbins' cowboy ballads were big crossover hits. Most of his many chart hits weren't cowboy songs at all, though.

I was going to put on some Creedence but I'll listen to Marty instead for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNNaOuo0tMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_lQuRQ8YU8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 15, 2018, 01:13:39 PM
Fair enough - from that 60's and 70's I remember many artists like Country Charlie Pride, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette, Ray Price, Dolly Parton and early Kenny Rogers and Glen Campbell (who was a sideman for many bands before going solo.)  Prior to that time I heard a bit more gospel on country stations,

Late in the 70's there was a "trucker/CB" thread in country music; Jerry Reed had a big couple of hits in that genre especially because of the movie Smokey and The Bandit. Curless was indeed a minor figure in country music, he just happened to tap into that market a few years earlier.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on May 15, 2018, 10:35:01 PM
Marty has a great voice. No lack of pesonality either :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 16, 2018, 12:59:44 AM
Marty has a great voice. No lack of pesonality either :)

I thoroughly enjoyed watching his cameo in Clint Eastwoods' "Honky Tonk Man."  That's one movie I went to see--not knowing much about it--and got more than my money's worth.  Marty Robbins was one of the reasons, too.  I don't know anything about his personality or lack of one, but appreciated his unique contribution to music. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: nofi on May 16, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
hi dave. I hope everyone is well. I want to apologize to anyone I pissed off or upset when I was posting regularly. stuff was going on that I was not handling well at all. I also want to re thank? uwe for taking my stepsons to dinner when they were in Germany a few years back. thank you.

anyway, I have been listening to my granddaughters 8th grade orchestra. more to the point the double basses tuning up. they create an awesome drone that could easily be the intro to a pink Floyd song.

see ya'.

 it just dawned on me this sounds like some 12 step program. i asure you it is not.



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 16, 2018, 06:52:16 PM
hi dave. I hope everyone is well. I want to apologize to anyone I pissed off or upset when I was posting regularly. stuff was going on that I was not handling well at all. I also want to re thank? uwe for taking my stepsons to dinner when they were in Germany a few years back. thank you.

anyway, I have been listening to my granddaughters 8th grade orchestra. more to the point the double basses tuning up. they create an awesome drone that could easily be the intro to a pink Floyd song.

see ya'.

 it just dawned on me this sounds like some 12 step program. i asure you it is not.

Hi Tom, glad to hear you're okay. I don't recall you upsetting anyone.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 16, 2018, 07:01:41 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed watching his cameo in Clint Eastwoods' "Honky Tonk Man."  That's one movie I went to see--not knowing much about it--and got more than my money's worth.  Marty Robbins was one of the reasons, too.  I don't know anything about his personality or lack of one, but appreciated his unique contribution to music.

Marty seemed to know he was short on time due to his history of heart disease, he died after bypass surgery and that came after several heart attacks. Yet he managed to have a second career as a NASCAR driver and did well, had several top 10 finishes.

He had a number of crossover hits, most came early in his career, e.g. Stairway of Love, A White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 16, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
Marty seemed to know he was short on time due to his history of heart disease, he died after bypass surgery and that came after several heart attacks. Yet he managed to have a second career as a NASCAR driver and did well, had several top 10 finishes.

He had a number of crossover hits, most came early in his career, e.g. Stairway of Love, A White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation.

I don't know why exactly, but I ended up hearing "A White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation" through the years probably as much or more than "El Paso."  But I'm not sure if I ever heard "Stairway of Love."  There were a few others I don't remember the names of, but I'm pretty sure "Devil Woman" was one of them.  In looking through the selections of You Tube, "Cool Water" also must have been something I heard, but I'm more familiar with the Sons of the Pioneers version.  "Don't Worry" also seems familiar. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2018, 03:36:10 AM
Listening to Chris Stapleton From a Room Vol. 1 now ... (apprehensively) ... (real) country or not, Dave?  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 17, 2018, 08:43:00 PM
Listening to Chris Stapleton From a Room Vol. 1 now ... (apprehensively) ... (real) country or not, Dave?  :-X

He certainly has real country influences.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 19, 2018, 07:17:22 AM
Digging the new release from Napalm Death. It's going to be great to play the same venue where they're kicking off their North American tour. Definitely the best thing to come out of Britain lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNlWLtZMvko
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Barklessdog on May 19, 2018, 04:05:56 PM
Tribe called red


https://youtu.be/L4xwN3yPZA0 (https://youtu.be/L4xwN3yPZA0)

https://youtu.be/L4xwN3yPZA0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 04, 2018, 06:33:13 PM
Ringo's drumming.

https://youtu.be/IqXWAcm3qSQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 08, 2018, 04:49:59 PM
Very much enjoying her and her boys right now ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPCdr8vR_wA

I dig the Alice in Chains vibe.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: saltymonkey on June 09, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBmAsg04_Q&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: saltymonkey on June 09, 2018, 05:38:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orn3B8Zqyn4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: rexdiablo on June 12, 2018, 10:11:05 PM
Very much enjoying her and her boys right now ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPCdr8vR_wA

I dig the Alice in Chains vibe.

We played a gig with Royal Thunder. Super nice folks, and MUCH better live than recorded. Great show!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 15, 2018, 03:48:38 PM
I saw Walter Trout this week at a great gig. A sparse blues guitarist he is not (flurry of notes in the "Rory Gallager meets Johnny Winter with Alvin Lee watching"-vein), but he sure puts his heart in it. It was intense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAEoy9Gi_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 27, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
A little T Rex

https://youtu.be/jBEJhfpfeSM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2018, 02:06:27 PM
This one popped up today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54H3EUAzpVg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 10, 2018, 03:06:09 PM
Budgie? Next you will be posting Rush vids here.

Listening to the new Halestorm right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taanowedKoY

Me thinks, they listened to the Sheer Heart Attack album of their parents a bit too often. Children lap up all kinds of influences if you let them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Rfb1Jtmic
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 10, 2018, 03:17:49 PM
Not to forget this guy here, who used to be with Led Zeppelin I believe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKduW12QtUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2bBMA6Pag
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 10, 2018, 03:27:42 PM
Now she was really with Led Zeppelin. Or at least close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrIgNQXqHo

Très lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc97E9AnhRU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on August 10, 2018, 05:36:47 PM
Played this through 3 times on my way to an RAF reunion near London... will prob play some more on the way home later today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcO9btBt_fM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 10, 2018, 08:13:33 PM
Budgie? Next you will be posting Rush vids here.
...

Not a chance. I heard all the Rush I'll ever need when my older son was in high school.

What does Budgie have to do with Rush anyway?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 11, 2018, 09:32:00 AM
I saw Dick Dale in Denver last Friday. He was feeling good that night at age 81, played for about an hour 40 minutes.  Fantastic show as always.

I also had the pleasure of going with one of the best rock-blues-overall guitar players I have met, who had never seen Dick before.  He left in a state of wonder.

I've been listening to a lot of surf since then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on August 11, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
I too have(had) the 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus in my car,i forced myself to take it out  recently .I grabbed a handful of others,but the one that was on repeat was Vive la Trance by Amon Duul 2,Then Sly and Robby meet King Tubby.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on August 11, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
What does Budgie have to do with Rush anyway?

Three piece with squeaky vocals...? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on August 11, 2018, 04:54:54 PM
They both had album covers with a bird on it?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 11, 2018, 05:12:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y8BbF7SI0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2018, 08:39:55 AM
Three piece with squeaky vocals...? :mrgreen:

Danke schön. I always found a similarity between the three Wellies and the early stuff (before they progged out) of the three Canucks (they both had odd lyrics and song titles plus a certain quaintness and angularity in their sound, something Rush would later flaunt excessively while Budgie tried to sand it away as their career progressed and they changed their lead guitarist). Also, Burke Shelley's voice was as divisive as Geddy Lee's (I liked both) plus he even looked a bit like Geddy Lee (or the other way around):

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/8a9303958e1f31ce9dec1d77c7a1c38b/tumblr_ntcukiwQIC1rsrbm0o1_540.png)

But while early Budgie preceded early Rush by a few years, I'm not saying that there was any conscious influence, Geddy & Co. had probably never heard of the rather obscure Welsh three-piece (they have always been frank about their influences).

More surprising still is however that Dave listens to something like Budgie at all (add his relatively recent Grand Funk Railroad confession to this!). Before heavy rock conquered the stadiums, he must have liked some of it!  :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2018, 08:43:52 AM
They both had album covers with a bird on it?

 :mrgreen: Also true, I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 13, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
During the weekend of NewWestFest in Fort Collins, a local foundation funds 80 bands playing on six stages over the period from Friday night through Sunday at about 6.  The event blocks off most of the old town in Fort Collins, the beer flows, food is served andvendor booths are everywhere. It's a weekend of celebration.

I did hear a pretty darn good band that I hadn't encountered before: Waker. They have a nice sound, are very solid musically, and are very listenable.

http://www.wakerofficial.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=i3BZ8EM8350
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 13, 2018, 09:41:05 PM

More surprising still is however that Dave listens to something like Budgie at all (add his relatively recent Grand Funk Railroad confession to this!). Before heavy rock conquered the stadiums, he must have liked some of it!  :-*

Did Budgie fill stadiums? Not here. I'd say they were very little known here. At any rate, it's just a track that popped up in my YT suggestions, no reason for you to get excited about it.  ;D

What did I say about GFRR? I was aware of them very early on and liked the way Mel's bass drove the band. A roommate had the red cover album and I heard them a bit on what was called underground radio back then. Nothing more than that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 14, 2018, 07:24:25 AM
Budgie never filled stadiums anywhere except maybe in Poland which they toured when the Iron Curtain still stood - for some reason, they had a sizable following there and got invited once for a tour that blew their minds in audience attendance. Even the fact that the guitarist ill-advisedly wore a German WWII army jacket could not hamper their succe-SS there (he took it off and never wore it again after he saw the shock in the Polish faces when he proceeded to walk on stage with it). I always dug them for their musical weirdness and their strange LP covers.

(https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61bAoKJ12VL._SX300_QL70_.jpg)

You don't need to be so defensive, Dave, about liking music patterned for stadium success - it's quite alright, you are forgiven, all this happened very much in the past!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 14, 2018, 08:46:41 AM
I've been listening to a bit of Uli Trepte recently. That dude wasn't right, but he had a pretty cool rig.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lopwMRCFo-Y/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 14, 2018, 08:51:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYp8QLkkrw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 14, 2018, 01:04:37 PM
Not stadium - at all.

 :mrgreen:

(http://www.johnnywinter.com/wp-content/gallery/live-photos/jw-live06.jpg)

But I like his work too.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 15, 2018, 08:08:15 AM
Not stadium - at all.

My first concert had Johnny and Edgar on the bill. At Fulton County Stadium.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 15, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
Not stadium - at all.

 :mrgreen:

(http://www.johnnywinter.com/wp-content/gallery/live-photos/jw-live06.jpg)

But I like his work too.  :)


You're being deliberately obtuse.

Playing a stadium doesn't make you an arena rock band. Paul McCartney, Luke Bryan (ugh!), Billy Joel, and Florida Georgia Line (ugh!) have played Target Field here in the past few years.  Does that make them arena rock bands? James Taylor, Shania Twain, Drake and Neil Diamond have all played Xcel Energy Center here in the past couple of years. Are they arena rock bands?

Johnny Winter was a blues artist, wherever he played. Johnny Winter And was a blues rock band that lasted a little over a year an did one tour. They did everything from Madison Square Garden to colleges and small clubs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 15, 2018, 10:31:07 AM
 :mrgreen: You started it, Dave, you coined the phrase "stadium rock" (which to all intents and purposes is the same as "arena rock", right?). And of course musically it defies definition, any band popular enough will play a stadium if it can.

Johnny played the Blues, true. But not all the time and he wasn't a purist. During his 70ies heyday he wasn't any more Blues than his fellow stadium-inhabitants from Foghat were. He fell more into the "virtuoso axeman with backing band"-bracket (similar to Rory Gallager or Alvin Lee/Ten Years After or Robin Trower) and he sure looked the part as well.

(https://liveforlivemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/JohnnyWinter-720x390.jpg)

(https://seventiesmusic.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/johnny-winter-3.jpg)

None of this takes away anything from his music or your music taste (or mine for that matter, I have nearly all his recorded work through all eras), it just goes to show that "stadium rock" perhaps isn't the most scientifically exact term.  8)

PS: Shania Twain, at the height of her fame, just as Garth Brooks at the height of his would all qualify as "arena acts" ("arena country-flavored pop?") in my book, it's not an insult to me. And both Rush and U2 were/are "arena rock", though their music bears little in common.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 15, 2018, 12:03:12 PM
:mrgreen: You started it, Dave, you coined the phrase "stadium rock" (which to all intents and purposes is the same as "arena rock", right?). And of course musically it defies definition, any band popular enough will play a stadium if it can.

.....

No, I didn't. I used the term 70s arena rock to describe the type of music that turned me off in the 70s. It was never about anything else and certainly never about any act that ever played in a stadium or other big venue.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 17, 2018, 12:22:36 PM
I was watching a Golden Earring concert on You Tube or something like that.  This song popped up as a suggestion.  At first I found it kind of irritating.  Then it became a little amusing.  "Why Don't We Do It In the Road" Part Deux?  I don't know if Paul McCartney is trying to be edgy or if he just doesn't give a rip now.  Maybe some of both.  Personally, I think Paul McCartney proved himself long ago.  He can do whatever he wants.  Some will like it, some won't. 

I just read some of the You Tube comments.  Some of them were pretty witty.  Interestingly enough, the comments from younger people seem more positive than comments from the older listeners--in general, that is. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYnI--eSbnc




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2018, 05:04:33 PM
Whenever Paul tries to be a little edgy or rough, he comes out sounding a little immature. It's not in him, there was only one sardonic Beatle (with less consistency in songwriting than Paul it has to be said).

That said, this particular song won't go into the pantheon of Macca's 100 best songs, but it's still pleasant. And lots of Macca's stuff is just that: pleasant. Just like the man.

Needless to say I ordered the album already a while ago.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 18, 2018, 09:57:26 AM
Several years ago I saw on the news that Paul was refused entrance to some kind of party because they didn't know who he was.  I saw a clip and he was saying maybe he needed to go out and get some more hits.  He was just joking of course and I also think this song is lighthearted to the extreme.  Maybe slightly raunchy but so is part of "Penny Lane" if you know what to listen for. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: D.M.N. on August 18, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
Every day, on repeat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA1KZwDkqeA&t=14s&ab_channel=carlygtr
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2018, 11:43:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy2HdKaP1EU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 19, 2018, 02:08:05 AM
A couple of days ago I discovered a bunch of recordings that Kelly Holland did with a guy called Tim Perry. They were put on YouTube about two years ago. The recordings are very much in the vein of the album Brother that Kelly recorded with Cry Of Love. It is such a shame that Kelky Holland drank himself to death. He has to be my favorite singer of all time.

https://youtu.be/MHdplHdvHHg

https://youtu.be/Q2zVRW5SYfM

https://youtu.be/ZrXdA00yCfA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 21, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
Finally, some gender-appropriate hair (pop) metal, Vixen's new Live Fire album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZ_jQv47ac

... of course the Live CD sounds better than the above audience recording ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIcRtbdMTQ

... and features a studio bonus track ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jl5CQKApsk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on August 21, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
They are great! Or... were great :) That Daytona beach clip on youtube (87? 88?) is an example of Vixen on fire, you ask me. They were a much better band than many of the young guys back then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 22, 2018, 10:53:21 PM
L7's Suzy Gardner after crowd surfing at the 7th Street Entry in Minneapolis, about 1992: "Somebody scratched my pussy! Which is good 'cause I've got a yeast infection!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yqTDkqzRYc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 23, 2018, 08:26:39 AM
Yum, what a grainy remark!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 23, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Yum, what a grainy remark!

They acted raunchy, but a couple of friends who knew them back in the day said they weren't that way in private life.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 23, 2018, 10:35:21 PM
https://youtu.be/Hom0fYd5uX4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 24, 2018, 06:28:11 AM
Very pleasurable listening indeed Dave.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 24, 2018, 07:54:33 AM
Very pleasurable listening indeed Dave.  ;D

There's a lot to be said for listening with your eyes.  :mrgreen:

Video is 48 years old. Those girls are about my age.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 24, 2018, 07:59:48 AM
Very pleasurable listening indeed Dave.  ;D

Um, YES!  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
There's a lot to be said for listening with your eyes.  :mrgreen:

Video is 48 years old. Those girls are about my age.

Hi Dave, still remember me?!

(https://bilder.buecher.de/zusatz/41/41527/41527488_deta_3.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2018, 08:20:53 AM
They acted raunchy, but a couple of friends who knew them back in the day said they weren't that way in private life.

Yeast is no laughing matter, a most resilient little flora form.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2018, 05:09:19 PM
The so-captioned "American Deep Purple" aka Legs Diamond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0pyiJWcId0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-okryB-ftL8

I never knew their older stuff (the above tracks are from their 1977 debut), I only heard about the band via a then band buddy in the 80ies who played me this here (which I - though very 80ies - immediately liked and still like):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L39MOBcWv6E

The Deep Purple comparison even on the older stuff puzzles me a bit. Yes they have a loud and dominant Hammond in their sound and more guitar/organ interplay than most US bands, but that is about it. And the singer is probably closer to Ian Gillan in his approach to vocal melodies than he is to Robert Plant, but still a mile away from a copy cat. He's also closer to Dan McCafferty of Nazareth than to either Robert Plant or Ian Gillan in my ears. (I even wonder whether a formative Axl Rose listened to him a bit?)

I guess the fact that Derek Lawrence (producer of the Mk I DP albums which btw weren't great productions even for the time) produced their debut had them typecasted from the start.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 28, 2018, 10:45:21 PM
Hi Dave, still remember me?!

(https://bilder.buecher.de/zusatz/41/41527/41527488_deta_3.jpg)

That creature looks like a nutty neighbor of mine.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2018, 06:30:43 AM
I loved "Dinosaurs" ("Die Dinos" in German, I sometimes watched them with my kids back in the 90ies), sort of The Simpsons in Jim Henson reptile drag. The grandma ("Ethel") was obviously patterned after the mother figure in Golden Girls ("Sophia") and Earl Sneed Sinclair, I swear, was really Ernest Borgnine with scales.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/9/95/Dinosaurs-EarlSinclair.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141129001953)

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-ernest-borgnine-at-a-press-conference-on-april-151969-in-picture-id171095445?s=612x612)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on October 09, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
I've never been a big metal guy. But for some reason the past few weeks I've been really into Anthrax.
For the first time in my life, at age 47!  Can't explain it.

The rhythm section (Frank Bello and Charlie Benante) are really great, they have a groove I really enjoy - on some songs it has a bit of swing to it, which is not something you can say about a lot of the thrash bands.
And I like that they are just more fun than a lot of metal, a lot of which is so relentlessly and seriously grim that I get tired of it pretty easily.

I'm not much into the singer though. Oh well.

Here's a good track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdj06vGT088
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
One of the most beautiful tunes I've ever heard...and timely right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCdlX-5UjE

And then I tripped over this killer version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 09, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Been listening to Dave Edmunds' live stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQbMUnIbhjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw_q4tSU48
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 10, 2018, 07:42:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw_q4tSU48

A Firebird acoustic?!?!?!  :o Cool!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 10, 2018, 07:51:38 AM
I've never been a big metal guy. But for some reason the past few weeks I've been really into Anthrax.
For the first time in my life, at age 47!  Can't explain it.

The rhythm section (Frank Bello and Charlie Benante) are really great, they have a groove I really enjoy - on some songs it has a bit of swing to it, which is not something you can say about a lot of the thrash bands.
And I like that they are just more fun than a lot of metal, a lot of which is so relentlessly and seriously grim that I get tired of it pretty easily.

I'm not much into the singer though. Oh well.

Here's a good track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdj06vGT088

I was never a big metal head, but I definitely dabbled in the 80s. Anthrax was one of very few metal bands I followed for a while there. Definitely fun and Frank had a great tone. I believe him and Charlie are nephew/uncle. Joey's singing is over the top, but he's actually way more versatile than what he does with Anthrax.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 10, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
A Firebird acoustic?!?!?!  :o Cool!

That's a Danny Ferrington acoustic made for Carlene.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on October 16, 2018, 08:39:43 PM
I find myself going back to this album fairly often over the last couple of years...including tonight...


"https://www.youtube.com/embed/TypuWqBnf1Y?list=PL94gOvpr5yt1gAL5w9NjwWiHFdE7M5I4u
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on October 17, 2018, 07:54:19 AM
Slide Show by Cindy Cashdollar

A 5 album box of the Crusaders...always been a Crusaders fan
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 17, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
Slide Show by Cindy Cashdollar

A 5 album box of the Crusaders...always been a Crusaders fan

And I thought my tastes were eclectic!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on October 19, 2018, 12:01:32 PM
I play in a classic rock band, and a 70's soul band...

The "ethnic" instruments (banjo dobro steel guitars etc) are kind of a personal obsession...

MS Cashdollar plays some amazing music...and I love the Crusaders because it's jazz, but not egg-head jazz...it actually is fun and feels good to listen to.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 14, 2018, 06:25:59 PM
https://youtu.be/IQf8S0wvqbQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on November 14, 2018, 07:21:31 PM
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/t7r4edgItT4"
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 15, 2018, 10:12:41 AM
Having stumbled upon some recordings of Christopher Hogwood playing Bach and Vivaldi on Clavichord, I delved a little deeper and found a treasure trove of clavichord music from this fellow. I could envision having a similar instrument in the new home I moved into with my fiancé. There's a baby on the way as well and I could see the clavichord providing a great musical foundation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HAPtRXDjI&list=PLackZ_5a6IWWtW_wGXuOqkSnYLtfxUyKo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on November 15, 2018, 11:15:48 PM
What a funky instrument :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 16, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
I don't think Bach has the same appeal on a Hohner D6 clavinet. Moog keyboards aren't the best either but they sounded nice in that Kubrick movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRZGRyeY34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRcXUeB8S4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 16, 2018, 10:13:25 PM
As Leo Kottke said in the liner notes to the Armadillo album, Bach had 20 children because his organ didn't have any stops.

https://youtu.be/aSLc6tTcs8o

https://youtu.be/NtCzicjT4SI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 07, 2019, 07:57:26 AM
https://youtu.be/QJO-YfEtdNA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2019, 05:23:34 PM
I'm having an 80ies AOR relapse with Frau Beck specifically, pity she didn't go any further:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmAj3267yxk

Still crazy good after all these years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbyjvosQiI

And of course her Coke & McDonalds classics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wqanvQV1bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6-L98l6eE

The McDonalds jingle made her popular in Germany ..., her cute sexy Yank accent was 2 die 4 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1lnuh0ut7M

... and it preceded the "real song":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ilQxbA86A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2019, 07:04:34 PM
And of course the new 2018 remix (not just remaster!) of a legendary, bottomless-vastly underrated album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt26NoTz5uc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4F5M8rjYkg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSFXR-ixWf8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lbGsYLCKjc

Old Bill is still doing it too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl3KnOfvb5s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 14, 2019, 09:21:48 PM
Emory Gordy Jr. on bass.

https://youtu.be/ocNPcvLaloo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2019, 07:22:30 AM
A man highly rated for his guitar skills by both Deep Purple guitarists, i.e. Blackmore and Morse, and both have played with him. Blackmore said that in the 60ies Albert Lee was the only English guitarist up to Nahville standards - and the Brit Invasion guys were in awe of Nahville guitar slingers.

I guess he did the right thing then leaving into the US country rock scene. Head, Hands & Feet hadn't really gone anywhere in Ole Blighty.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 15, 2019, 09:34:38 PM
All roads lead to Blackmore.

I'm impressed by Gordy being able to sing backup while playing that bass line. Albert is awesome as always.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
All roads lead to Blackmore.

Sigh, I was soooo hoping for you to write that one day, Dave. :-*

My work is done here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2019, 03:42:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0DttYjN5p8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 20, 2019, 10:56:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSaN6eyRBsU&fbclid=IwAR18AThaSoZnHUbwN2fb9KRBvgJ6LF3Dw9JAQG0Tg3boyf03NcIV-aCP1H4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2019, 03:01:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSYGvebu_WY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 22, 2019, 08:28:24 AM
Nice version. The lady can sing.

Just my curiosity: What is that accent? She pronounces good as gooyd.
I think I've been hearing that more often lately. Do younger (female) singers imitate each other with pronouncing words like that? Or is it a true accent that is bound to a certain region?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 09:04:16 AM
Was there ever a region in the US where they would say "big wheels keep on toyning, Proud Mary keep on boyning"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkKW61XYnI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 09:37:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXlkwHECabU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHScCrBrK7M

And to lighten up my day ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_XoKJP1XK4



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2019, 09:47:34 AM
Linda Ronstadt with her live version.  I saw her around this same time although it would be another 14 years before I'd make it to Germany.  I like what Sara Niemietz did with the song, but I didn't notice anything unusual with her pronunciation. 

I don't even know what John Fogerty was doing with the way he pronounced some words.  Nobody that I know talks like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=082KfTzWOxE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 22, 2019, 10:20:57 AM
Nice version. The lady can sing.

Just my curiosity: What is that accent? She pronounces good as gooyd.
I think I've been hearing that more often lately. Do younger (female) singers imitate each other with pronouncing words like that? Or is it a true accent that is bound to a certain region?

It's not any regional accent I've heard, just her way of pronouncing while singing. I haven't heard anyone else singing it like that but female singers do seem more likely to copy pronunciation like that.

Was there ever a region in the US where they would say "big wheels keep on toyning, Proud Mary keep on boyning"?


Yes, definitely. I used to hear it frequently among blacks from Louisiana and Mississippi and from white Cajuns. Fogarty comes pretty close to capturing it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 10:34:50 AM
Linda Ronstadt with her live version.  I saw her around this same time although it would be another 14 years before I'd make it to Germany.  I like what Sara Niemietz did with the song, but I didn't notice anything unusual with her pronunciation. 

I don't even know what John Fogerty was doing with the way he pronounced some words.  Nobody that I know talks like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=082KfTzWOxE

Bridgewise, I always felt Carly got a little inspiration from You're No Good ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uU_4XBugA

But both songs are great.

And ... playing a cruise ship before people in evening gowns/black tie is perhaps not quite so counter-culture, but she and her voice have aged nicely.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 22, 2019, 10:59:45 AM
I've always liked Van Halen's take on You're No Good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXhELqpOTpE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 22, 2019, 11:12:44 AM
I always thought Fogarty's pronunciations were pretty compatible with what I heard in deep east Texas, close to the Louisiana border.  He does have a tendency to substitute an "oy" sound in words like "burning."

He does that in one of my favorite tunes, Blue Boy. When he sings "pulling on a pony" he uses a very odd pronunciation in the word "pulling".  Sounds almost like "puying". In his CD Blue Moon Swamp, the "y" sound is even more pronounced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Y_8tBbtog
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2019, 11:15:30 AM
Bridgewise, I always felt Carly got a little inspiration from You're No Good ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8uU_4XBugA

But both songs are great.

And ... playing a cruise ship before people in evening gowns/black tie is perhaps not quite so counter-culture, but she and her voice have aged nicely.  8)

Both songs certainly are great, IMO.  I haven't heard much news about Carly Simon, but as for Linda Rondtadt it's a shame she got Parkinson's.  However, she seems to be dealing with it much better than most. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 11:54:02 AM
I've always liked Van Halen's take on You're No Good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXhELqpOTpE

Yes, that gives new definition to the term "hamfisted". As subtle as a Königstiger in an Ardennes orchard. :rolleyes:

I just knew you were gonna raise the banner for that cover version, you ole VH groupie!  :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 22, 2019, 12:11:22 PM
Yes the drums and bass are certainly hamfisted.
But the guitar part of the arrangement is pure genius. The nonchalence and seemingly effortlessness of Eddie Van Halen is unsurpassed in my point of view.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
I was just teasing you - there is no dissent between us as regards your half-countryman's multiple skills on guitar even if he had never tapped a note. He also stole less riffs than Jimmy P. and didn't pattern his whole sound after someone else like those guitar duos from Thin Lizzy that also strike your fancy.  :P

Compared to their stunning debut, I just found VH's second outing all in all more of the same, only less. They were never the most consistent album makers, it has to be said. But there would be patches of brilliance and when I saw them with Hagar in the late 80ies they were shit-hot and had a singer that hits notes live too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 03:07:48 PM
Now I'm listening to these fine young men - Logi, Örn & Ari *** - from the coldest part of Europe who are also adamant about (re)playing their dads' music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omREbNT9D0

Bit of early Purple in'em too (with the usual unavoidable Sabbath ingredients thrown in for good measure, their dads must have owned Uriah Heep records too) - that sense of urgency/frenzy. They could use some tan though,

(https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750webp/30606.webp)

not exactly spoiled with sun I guess ...  ;D


*** In case you were racking your horned helmets: Yes, their surnames all end with "...son".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 03:56:36 PM
Guilty pleasure: Michael before he got a haircut and decided to chiefly appeal to housewives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_reU5lasQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NukzQZM-1Qk

I didn't know he played lead guitar when he was still trying to be Bon Jovi!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 04:07:36 PM
Is this more or less of a guilty pleasure?  :gay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51lde0inQYg

I saw Culture Club just a few weeks ago in Cologne (in a venue where I had seen Velvet Revolver and Mötley Crüe before). It was one happy spiritual communion and Edith and I must have been one of the few heterosexual couples there. ;D He sure has a voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2019, 07:39:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABPq8AQCzFc&list=PLaFUFz0EiOW0mSF86-0qNgDkN_KMtlFk5

To restore a semblance of credibility for me here.  :mrgreen:

And now that I have immersed myself in all their back catalogue I must say: Nick Seymour is a fine bassist. Very melodic and inventive.

Not sure whether Herr Finn is doing himself a favor with this Fleetwood Mac tour joinder though ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TulLeC-HcdU

He does a fine job (and his voice doesn't sound out of place with the Macs), but replacing someone as mercurial and intense - and at the same time: gifted and utterly idiosyncratic - as Buckingham is an impossible and thankless task. Buckingham can probably drive you mad if you have him around all the time, but there is an absolutely mesmerizing "taut rubber band, will it snap?"-characteristic to his on stage artistry (not to mention how he plays guitar like no one does and sings with a voice that is neither male nor female) that cannot be replicated or matched by anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNKhNLUS9s

That said, Stevie doesn't do a bad job with Crowded House songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piLKAL9jgM8

Allegedly, she gave the band an ultimatum, "it's either me or Lindsey ..." and the others acquiesced, but if that is true then that is like saying Art was more important than Paul in Simon & Garfunkel.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 22, 2019, 11:32:19 PM
I'll just leave this here... it's a good listen:
http://songexploder.net/fleetwood-mac
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2019, 08:18:52 AM
Wow, that was profound, vielen Dank, I'll never hear that song the same way again. I always marvelled about that counter-beat verse. Brilliant.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2019, 03:38:08 PM
I always thought Fogarty's pronunciations were pretty compatible with what I heard in deep east Texas, close to the Louisiana border.  He does have a tendency to substitute an "oy" sound in words like "burning."

He does that in one of my favorite tunes, Blue Boy. When he sings "pulling on a pony" he uses a very odd pronunciation in the word "pulling".  Sounds almost like "puying". In his CD Blue Moon Swamp, the "y" sound is even more pronounced:



Heavy Cajun influence the closer you get to the Louisiana border.

Fogerty studied the accents well, if you disn't know otherwise you might think he was born on the bayou. OTOH I've never heard that "pulling" pronunciation anywhere in the south.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 24, 2019, 02:46:43 AM
All the best to Lindsey Buckingham...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQFsN0mMWc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2019, 12:03:38 PM
That looks like a close call.  :-\

Not touring with Fleetwood Mac might have saved his life.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2019, 12:16:49 PM
It might have been a blessing in disguise.  I've tried to not get too upset when something doesn't go the way I think it should.  You don't always know for sure if something is going to be good or bad.  I was one of the ones not happy about Lindsey Buckingham getting kicked out.  But it looks like I might have been wrong. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2019, 09:20:07 AM
Giving an anthology of the ole Greek a spin right now, here he is with a young hopeful from Birmingham ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1coalOFArw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPF8r_4nykI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2019, 03:25:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEK8SaON67E

Epic.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
And now for something more juvenile ...

Harmless German landfill pomp melodic pop metal - utterly engineered and manufactured -, wouldn't sound out of place at the Eurovision Song Contest ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0uEnxMCxUE

I have a hunch that - as usual - the Dutch and their Within Temptation are to blame for this. :mrgreen: Anyway, I bought the CD just to see (hear) what it's like.

And now - for good measure - I'm giving the Dutch inspiration behind this a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7sOZ_TFUXg

(https://image-cdn.neatoshop.com/styleimg/53216/none/red/default/333247-20;1480539702j.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 02, 2019, 07:58:52 AM
Harmony vocal by Waylon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGUqFBgNc4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 03, 2019, 10:52:51 PM
Listening to East L.A. garage rock tonight.

Back in the days when owning an Olds was cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBXBgz2pOms
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Currently reappreciating REO Speedwagon with a new boxed set (I heard the one containing their earlier work with an ever-changing line-up of singers just a few weeks ago).

(https://picscdn.redblue.de/doi/pixelboxx-mss-80058144/fee_786_587_png/R.E.O.Speedwagon---Classic-Years-1978-1990-%289CD-Box-Set%29---%28CD%29)

(https://picscdn.redblue.de/doi/pixelboxx-mss-80058143/fee_786_587_png/R.E.O.Speedwagon---Classic-Years-1978-1990-%289CD-Box-Set%29---%28CD%29)

This version of one of their, uhum, minor hits floored me, especially how they "Bob Marley-ed up" the chorus, lovely (and showing they have a sense of humour):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJqdhHtm9ig

I never gave this as close a listen before, but Neil Doughty's keyboard and especially piano playing is magnificent.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 09, 2019, 03:24:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwo0dcWOkY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2019, 06:58:17 PM
Anathema ... Brit shoegazer prog ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFo332Y5uIA

And of course every folkie's wet dream, the inimitable Ms Simon ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5okySRsR8E4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on March 23, 2019, 11:05:50 PM
I saw Carly Simon live once. It was at the closing cermony of the 1996 Paralympic Games in Atlanta.She was great.Same gig had Aretha Franklin,Bo Diddley(very blusey set-great!)Jerry Lee Lewis and others i have forgotten- a good night out, even if i was working.But i have been listening to this- a bit of fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkEIwhzc8o4&t=679s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 24, 2019, 02:33:03 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxI3USxkXgo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 24, 2019, 08:59:53 PM
Austin punk rock to jiggle shake up your Sunday night.

https://youtu.be/ZdEdadhIg18

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Chris P. on March 25, 2019, 06:09:24 AM
Uwe, that vid of Alexis and Steve is one of the best things ever. I watched it too much the last years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 04, 2019, 06:20:54 PM
Several people do a good job on this song, but I think I may like Chuck Berry's version the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EEkqifbooE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 04, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
Let's see how many of you are paying attention to this thread.

https://youtu.be/BjUV-byB8ls
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on May 04, 2019, 11:19:02 PM
I'm blown away!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Stjofön Big on May 05, 2019, 01:22:05 AM
Guess some of you've heard about the Swedish pop phenomen. Here's one that wont fit in that category.

In the early 70s, Leif Andersson dreamed of becoming a Swedish Frank Sinatra.

In 1974, at 28 years of age, he entered a studio to record two songs, one of which was his version of Cheek to cheek by Irving Berlin, and the other a free interpretation of Fly me to the moon.

But the musicians he had rented could not find a suitable arrangement for Leif's peculiar singing voice. So he sang it a cappella.

Leif was not at all satisfied with the recording, he threw the discs in the trash bin, gave up his dream. In time he became a mythical figure, without knowing it himself.

A few copies of the record remained, and it eventually became a cult 45, changing hands for quite some money.

Leif's voice is extremely special, to say the least. It has been likened to a prayer caller's voice, or a Mongolian song. Or are there other suggestions concerning his singing?


Cheek to cheek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1iq02y5RAU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2WeHSeGU2xzZ1uQEDpqESVTOUGDLwRzt-wH9Ym7zPe_Wr1-ckwauto99c

Fly me to the moon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgFZ7JE4f_U


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on May 05, 2019, 10:09:55 AM
Leif!!! Quit your whining!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on May 05, 2019, 09:56:46 PM
I'm not kidding, my cat actually hid under the kitchen table when he started to sing!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 05, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
I'm blown away!

I'm trying to figure out which one is Cher.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 05, 2019, 10:41:56 PM
Guess some of you've heard about the Swedish pop phenomen. Here's one that wont fit in that category.

In the early 70s, Leif Andersson dreamed of becoming a Swedish Frank Sinatra.

In 1974, at 28 years of age, he entered a studio to record two songs, one of which was his version of Cheek to cheek by Irving Berlin, and the other a free interpretation of Fly me to the moon.

But the musicians he had rented could not find a suitable arrangement for Leif's peculiar singing voice. So he sang it a cappella.

Leif was not at all satisfied with the recording, he threw the discs in the trash bin, gave up his dream. In time he became a mythical figure, without knowing it himself.

A few copies of the record remained, and it eventually became a cult 45, changing hands for quite some money.

Leif's voice is extremely special, to say the least. It has been likened to a prayer caller's voice, or a Mongolian song. Or are there other suggestions concerning his singing?
...

It sounds like he was severely constipated and trying to force it out. It probably worked too. With a voice like that, the shit must have wanted to escape as soon as possible.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 05, 2019, 11:25:07 PM
I'm trying to figure out which one is Cher.  ;)

I read some of the comments  beneath the video.  Some people seem to be very drawn to what was going on.  Some seemed to think the dancing was even seductive.  I guess they might have been imagining what the dancers really looked like, but I'm not that imaginative and don't want to even try to be. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 06, 2019, 08:41:02 AM
Sounds to me like a variation on throat-singing.  Not destined for the top 40 at any time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 06, 2019, 09:13:37 AM
https://youtu.be/JRsZ5ZwMNGE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on May 06, 2019, 09:16:50 AM
What is the penalty for no bass player?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 AM
What is the penalty for no bass player?

In Sleater-Kinney's case, no penalty.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on May 06, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
In Sleater-Kinney's case, no penalty.
:)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on May 06, 2019, 06:52:32 PM
I love that band. Great drummer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 28, 2019, 09:48:28 PM
I saw that Bob Seger is on his final tour. He just turned 74. Never one of my favorites but he had some good hits back in the day.

Live in 2011.

https://youtu.be/0cEVtKMBY18
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on May 29, 2019, 06:42:09 AM
I'd like to see his act.  I always thought he was an okay guy.
He (used to anyway) split the proceeds of the live shows with the whole band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 29, 2019, 08:45:05 AM
Saw him a few weeks ago in Denver -good show, well played, and he appeared to be having an absolutely GREAT time. Definitely worth the money for me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 31, 2019, 09:20:31 AM
Clint Eastwood is 89 today.

Get off of his lawn.

https://youtu.be/7l0luZHf_yg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 02, 2019, 01:53:12 PM
This popped up in my suggestions. One of my favorite pop hits from 1970. Always liked the bassline.

The record was actually Jeff Christie's vocals with the backing track by The Tremeloes.

https://youtu.be/lxu5zyUnVzE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on June 02, 2019, 06:14:18 PM
Ahh a forgotten tune!
Is that cymbal just hanging on?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 03, 2019, 06:36:35 PM
Ahh a forgotten tune!
Is that cymbal just hanging on?

It's a magic cymbal. It also disappears and reappears.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 03, 2019, 06:38:53 PM
Another 1970 favorite with a bassline I liked.

https://youtu.be/M6beG7qBm4g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on June 04, 2019, 12:43:34 PM
Got a "New Riders of the Purple Sage" box set...some very tasty playing there...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 06, 2019, 06:13:17 PM
1970, continued.

https://youtu.be/AeufXUFcSSA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on June 06, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
My favorite queercore / post-riot-grrl band just released a brand new single 19 years after their last and it's SO good! And they're going back on tour!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNMipN4Xf84
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 07, 2019, 06:43:57 AM
Does this mean Lucille Bogan is the great grandmother of queercore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nmrWB1ovQ0&list=PLWF3D1iev_RuSRQAuwS01tiUmQ_ice6cf&index=10&t=0s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on June 07, 2019, 01:37:53 PM
If I had to guess, I suspect Team Dresch would be ok with that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on June 08, 2019, 10:38:14 AM
Played this at our gig last night.  Love this tune, and it has a nice bass walk.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o4s1KVJaVA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on June 08, 2019, 04:36:01 PM
Old Bill is still doing it too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl3KnOfvb5s
The bass player here is awesome. That's Dave Sturt, I've seen him with Gong ten years ago. Had the same Vigier fretless.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 12, 2019, 03:12:09 AM
Metallica in Ireland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNdOCQYOL8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on June 12, 2019, 07:22:55 AM
Oh, Kirk Hammett is playing Greenie, his $2 million 59 LP that used to belong to Peter Green and Gary Moore. Helps me not look at the Fenderized Ric bass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 12, 2019, 09:38:17 AM
I probably wouldn't need much help in not looking at someone playing a bass that's all the way down to his ankles. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 12, 2019, 10:45:07 AM
https://youtu.be/6mnVpjrB9Jk

Today I listen to this song.
RIP Philomena Lynott.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 13, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
https://youtu.be/6mnVpjrB9Jk

Today I listen to this song.
RIP Philomena Lynott.

RIP to a wonderful lady.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 17, 2019, 06:21:17 AM
https://youtu.be/9k_aj6b2xsA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 07, 2019, 12:17:37 AM
Pulled out this CD. Hard to believe it's 26 years old.

https://youtu.be/-zUIiU9NGNs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 14, 2019, 06:23:19 PM
Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr in an unexpected reunion at Dodger Stadium. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zcEbsUEVDY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 14, 2019, 10:33:05 PM
Local friends.

https://youtu.be/LzvYSFtTXTY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 15, 2019, 08:06:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_FSicQWimU

This is in the set for the car show we're playing this weekend.  I find the fast bass line challenging since I play finger style and haven't mastered the pick. I'm giving it plenty of run-throughs to get more consistent.

Incidentally, I went to the Mecum auto auction in Denver last weekend to check the cars.  Five GTOs; a '64, a '66 and three '67s.

I had a '66 for three years and it was one of the most fun cars I've ever driven.  Still one of the most beautiful cars to come out of Detroit, IMO.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 15, 2019, 09:26:03 AM
DeWolff - Live & Outta Sight II

Bought their second live album last weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJmVm7cU37k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 16, 2019, 09:48:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF-KPh3el4o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 18, 2019, 06:23:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_OdvxTZRPE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 19, 2019, 08:16:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_OdvxTZRPE

I'm glad I got to see the classic lineup of this band in '79. I know a lot of blues purists hated their take on this, but I think they were a great 70s boogie rock band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 19, 2019, 09:02:55 AM
I'm glad I got to see the classic lineup of this band in '79. I know a lot of blues purists hated their take on this, but I think they were a great 70s boogie rock band.

I think the blues versions will always be known.  But something like the Foghat version may be in more danger of sinking into obscurity as time goes on. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 19, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomNaluJ-Tg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 19, 2019, 08:37:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWO6ddViw_o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 20, 2019, 06:19:22 AM
No small task for Cream to give "outside woman blues" an even metered rock groove and still keep the essence of the song. First time hearing the original for me.
I'm pretty sure Mark Andes would get picked out as the bass player most of the time in a police line-up. Like the tune and his basses. Looks like a Thunderbird II in those pics? Wonder if he used it when he was with Spirit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2019, 08:14:19 AM
No small task for Cream to give "outside woman blues" an even metered rock groove and still keep the essence of the song. First time hearing the original for me.
I'm pretty sure Mark Andes would get picked out as the bass player most of the time in a police line-up. Like the tune and his basses. Looks like a Thunderbird II in those pics? Wonder if he used it when he was with Spirit.

Mark Andes has always been a Precision Bass player. That's not Mark with the Thunderbird in the pic, that's John Staehely, who replaced him after their first album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 20, 2019, 09:35:15 AM
Thanks. My bad, must be the heat.
I've been listening to lots of Baroque and Bluegrass lately. Too bad more instruments didn't cross over from ancient times besides the mandolin. It would be something to see a bluegrass group with an arch lute picker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-iDlP_tjaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshIfJSqcHU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 20, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Hoven Droven from Sweden.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiRaUjqrJxE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 21, 2019, 08:51:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2DvPKh118
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 21, 2019, 08:54:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PrHIFJvfnc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 21, 2019, 08:55:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2DvPKh118

Wow!  Never heard that before.  Great tune as played (although it could be kind of a sleeper with a less aggressive approach)  and the time-keeping is fantastic. Those guys are right where they should be all through the number.  Impressive.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 23, 2019, 04:37:56 AM
Unfortunately, even though it is somewhat lacking, this is still the best video there is to this song,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwNUoGr2aSI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 23, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
https://youtu.be/axLRUszuu9I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 23, 2019, 10:48:24 PM
And Tommy Tutone  in 2017, covering Arthur Lee & Love's interpretation of Burt Bacharach's My Little Red Book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Ps8s30p0I

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2019, 03:16:17 PM
Now I have to find the Love version.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 26, 2019, 09:34:30 PM
Now I have to find the Love version.

Burt Bacharach supposedly didn't like Arthur Lee's interpretation. I thought it really wasn't that different from the original, which he wrote for the soundtrack of What's New Pussycat.

Film version (by Manfred Mann)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCqAZkVaGs



Arthur Lee & Love version (note the Eko 995 bass)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftO9ClIhFAo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 05, 2019, 10:08:30 PM
https://youtu.be/_ZsEp9gi5Qg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 08, 2019, 09:35:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ML6-W6-coo

I know, they are a band that will be eternally regarded as the epitome of uncool. Thinking man's Winger.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/beavisandbutthead/images/7/7a/Stewart.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20110910035309)

But they play (and sing) well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 09, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6I6yr7WDeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7xVJvU_Yo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54AwVkP_8ow
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 09, 2019, 11:11:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcOHiGonWwU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 09, 2019, 01:26:57 PM
The British and their sense of humor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL0dkGG_p7U


 :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 09, 2019, 02:12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSYFJB7o9ZQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Bargeon on August 10, 2019, 05:35:43 AM
Dang, first I've seen TYA mentioned in ages. I had Cricklewood Green on the other day.

https://youtu.be/-_49OtpnxgM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 10, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
Dang, first I've seen TYA mentioned in ages. I had Cricklewood Green on the other day.


I loved Cricklewood Green. I had it on 8-track tape that shifted tracks in the middle of songs. Those were the days.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 11, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsoGKtxHnoE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 12, 2019, 06:30:07 AM
A spillover from my son's current playlist ... It's like Quentin Tarantino having a bad dream with Glen Campbell in it - with a shot of Adam Green in it for good measure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hh974VZjNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETUXRf4x1M

He has that Adam Green approach to music - an obviously encyclopedic knowledge of musical styles and mannerisms that seemingly fell out of favor a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=50&v=6sYYMsQqbAM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 12, 2019, 08:46:08 AM

 Nice '69 Caddy in that vid, I used to have a Firemist Red Coup de Ville, it drove much like a booth at Denny's.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 12, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Nice '69 Caddy in that vid, I used to have a Firemist Red Coup de Ville, it drove much like a booth at Denny's.

That is a LOVELY turn of phrase!!  It communicates very clearly.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2019, 11:52:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc#

Bought an 8 CD Box of their work ("The Polydor Years"), I never had a clear grasp of what they were doing, so it was about time. To me they are like an East Coast Steely Dan (or Doobies), the Southern Rock influence is almost negligible IMHO, some of the guitar riffs are southernish in places.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 14, 2019, 07:20:38 AM
I don't know a lot about ARS either, but I've always liked what I've heard. I can see the Doobies comparison. Might have to check out some stuff online. And let's not forget that Paul Goddard played bass on a Kerry Livgren song with RJD on vocals, who of course sang for....  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 14, 2019, 08:53:42 AM
Goddard plays his Ric nicely. Constantly melodic (with a not very Ric'ish sound at all), yet unobtrusively.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 14, 2019, 09:59:34 AM
Listening to Connie Smith today since it's her 78th birthday. This clip is from 7 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVg-FtbNUG4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 17, 2019, 11:15:51 PM
Son House & Skip James

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0bv_PTazDc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv-_mzVBSF8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2019, 09:09:51 AM
Early 60s swamp rock from Lake Charles, Louisiana.

https://youtu.be/aAk-3U2ODdo

(https://i.imgur.com/te2xrXy.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 20, 2019, 12:48:43 PM
I know ...  :popcorn: ... a guilty pleasure of gargantuan nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH0dygy_dxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRV2yajkkqU

It was always Musical music to me - just without a Musical to go with it. Steinman has now come full circle.

The guy is great - but she needs to work on her American accent, badly.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 21, 2019, 12:00:23 AM
https://youtu.be/nxUbXzMlw-k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 26, 2019, 09:58:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD57xU3zumI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2019, 04:16:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=61&v=spR34zbjYs8

Wot, no bassist, I'll return the CD!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 27, 2019, 08:47:37 AM

 Stumbled across Tom....... Cinderella II  :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0LrgRh7ak4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 27, 2019, 09:44:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD57xU3zumI

That's a regular in our sets. People really like it! Great dancing tune, too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2019, 10:30:32 AM
Stumbled across Tom....... Cinderella II  :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0LrgRh7ak4

All similarities with NIIIIIIIGHT  SONGS  are pure coincidental.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 27, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
All similarities with NIIIIIIIGHT  SONGS  are pure coincidental.  :)
 

 I know Hair Metal isn't everybody's thing, but they were a bit different and I like Tom's voice - evidently he's had a lot of trouble with his voice.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
I saw a reunited Cinderella in London a few years ago (my son dragged me there) - it was a fine gig and they sure had enough memorable tunes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 27, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
I saw a reunited Cinderella in London a few years ago (my son dragged me there) - it was a fine gig and they sure had enough memorable tunes.
 

 My father would never have ever thought of doing such a thing with me - Just sayin' pretty cool!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2019, 03:25:18 PM
My dad didn't join me at rock concerts either, but to give him credit he waited patiently in the car outside the hall for my first Rainbow and my first Status Quo concert, both in 1976, when I hadn't even turned 16 yet.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 27, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
My dad didn't join me at rock concerts either, but to give him credit he waited patiently in the car outside the hall for my first Rainbow and my first Status Quo concert, both in 1976, when I hadn't even turned 16 yet.
   

 As I recall my Mom drove me (and my first date!) to Alice Cooper in '73, gotta love Mom!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on August 27, 2019, 07:22:35 PM
My dad took me to the 'oo at Shea Stadium in '82 with David Johansson and The Clash opening. I was (almost) 12.  Good old Dad!

Later he took me to a couple shows at Stony Brook University near our home.  The Kinks on the Word of Mouth tour, that was great.
Frank Zappa around 1984 - I didn't know anything about Zappa and have no idea what was on the set list, but I was impressed by the band.

Dad raised me well!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 27, 2019, 09:17:37 PM
One of Robin Trower's last recordings with Procol Harum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Is5uO9SIA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 28, 2019, 07:22:04 AM

 It's fitting that this song be covered by a Canadian band, Lightfoot is a fave, my folks listened to him a lot when I was a kid. I really like this! The video is Epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8LBkYjniTU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2019, 07:47:58 AM
Très cool. Charismatic lead singer.

Has a Neil Young vibe, yet another Canuck.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 28, 2019, 09:32:16 AM
Please don't insult the man by comparing him to Neil Young.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 28, 2019, 09:40:53 AM
Please don't insult the man by comparing him to Neil Young.

I agree.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on August 28, 2019, 02:40:33 PM
Please don't insult the man by comparing him to Neil Young.
  AGREED
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 28, 2019, 04:48:03 PM
My dad took me to the 'oo at Shea Stadium in '82 with David Johansson and The Clash opening. I was (almost) 12.  Good old Dad!

Later he took me to a couple shows at Stony Brook University near our home.  The Kinks on the Word of Mouth tour, that was great.
Frank Zappa around 1984 - I didn't know anything about Zappa and have no idea what was on the set list, but I was impressed by the band.

Dad raised me well!

My oldest daughter told me she got into a (one-up) discussion of "what was the first concert you ever went to?"

Her answer: "my dad took us all to see Bruce Springsteen."

She won!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 28, 2019, 09:32:04 PM
New song by the Dead Daisies with Glenn Hughes on vocals and bass.  If you want to skip the introduction (which is in Portuguese) go to 1:54.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFI2o01BAo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2019, 04:10:54 AM
Please don't insult the man by comparing him to Neil Young.

Westen44: I agree.

Rob: AGREED.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1d76877d9bc04edfb1c603dbd0d302e2/tenor.gif?itemid=12421169)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 29, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Be that as it may, Neil Young has Daryl Hannah now.  He may not care one way or another if he is around anyone else or not. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2019, 10:10:29 PM
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Be that as it may, Neil Young has Daryl Hannah now.  He may not care one way or another if he is around anyone else or not.

David Crosby called Daryl Hannah a "purely poisonous predator." He later apologized.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 30, 2019, 12:07:12 AM
David Crosby called Daryl Hannah a "purely poisonous predator." He later apologized.

I think some may have thought they were an unlikely match, but Neil Young and Daryl Hannah appear to be compatible. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 30, 2019, 07:34:48 AM
I think some may have thought they were an unlikely match, but Neil Young and Daryl Hannah appear to be compatible.

I guess that means she's grouchy, preachy, and can't sing worth a damn either.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 30, 2019, 08:11:32 AM
I guess that means she's grouchy, preachy, and can't sing worth a damn either.  :mrgreen:

I think that pretty much sums it up.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 30, 2019, 10:30:21 AM
I guess that means she's grouchy, preachy, and can't sing worth a damn either.  :mrgreen:

That puts Neil Young in the same league as Bob Dylan, who surely has one of the most nasal, irritating singing voices ever.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2019, 11:20:27 AM
Y'all go to hell for these sayings.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/e1/66/ffe16602af58c9eac3ecf93c628d75de.png)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 30, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
I'd rather listen to Bob Dylan and Neil Young a million times more than John Mayer.  Speaking of hell, Mayer's singing is truly hellish and unbearable to have to listen to.  He can play guitar, though.  That's the problem.  Sometimes guitarists think just because they're good on guitar that they can also sing. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 30, 2019, 04:48:50 PM
I'm actually a fan of both, just don't consider them to be top notch vocalists.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 30, 2019, 09:13:02 PM
Dylan talks through most of his vocals as much as he sings, but unlike Neil, he can write, and he doesn't sound like a cat with its tail being stepped on.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on August 31, 2019, 11:47:55 PM
Please don't insult the man by comparing him to Neil Young.
Agree :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 01, 2019, 01:06:51 PM
It's comforting to know that I'm not alone.  :mrgreen:

As I've said before, Neil must have some compromising photos of Crosby, Stills and Nash, there's no other logical explanation why they wold let him play with them.  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on September 01, 2019, 01:48:48 PM
Maybe the old days with Stills?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 01, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
It's comforting to know that I'm not alone.  :mrgreen:

As I've said before, Neil must have some compromising photos of Crosby, Stills and Nash, there's no other logical explanation why they wold let him play with them.  :P

They were fantastic as a 4-person group, and Young's Cinnamon Girl and Rockin' in the Free World are a couple of my all time favorites. I get that Dave doesn't like him, but IMO there's much to be said for Young's work.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 01, 2019, 03:20:56 PM
I'm not sure if taste in music is all that much of a conscious choice.  Usually you either like something or you don't.  I was once in an Irish shop totally enjoying myself and soaking up the atmosphere.  A TV was on.  Then someone turned it to a Neil Young concert.  It startled me.  I remember standing there thinking why someone would want to do that.  But taste in music is personal and subjective.  Also, I'm sure the people running the place couldn't have cared less if I liked Neil Young or not.  Anyway,, except for "Heart Of Gold," I don't. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 01, 2019, 05:38:43 PM
I'm not sure if taste in music is all that much of a conscious choice.  Usually you either like something or you don't.  I was once in an Irish shop totally enjoying myself and soaking up the atmosphere.  A TV was on.  Then someone turned it to a Neil Young concert.  It startled me.  I remember standing there thinking why someone would want to do that.  But taste in music is personal and subjective.  Also, I'm sure the people running the place couldn't have cared less if I liked Neil Young or not.  Anyway,, except for "Heart Of Gold," I don't.

Well, turning on anyone like Neil Young during Irish music is a lot like a fart in an elevator. It would have been the same for Springsteen.  I forgot about Heart of Gold; thanks for the reminder...another one I like a lot.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 01, 2019, 10:53:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZoN0-OyqQQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 03, 2019, 10:00:42 AM
We don't need no bloody guitars.
Just two Bongo(!) basses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhtN8KxO7Ns
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2019, 12:47:46 PM
I always wondered how Dream Theater without John Petrucci would sound.

Now I know. The improvement is negligible.

Danke.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2019, 05:32:58 AM
Someone in that overrated 70ies outfit (whose name I have conveniently forgotten) had real talent, classy Brit songwriting between Ian Hunter and Nick Lowe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nl30C54hj0&list=PLFE9Lon2WF2kG4Hb-dpWJqy7Yu3Wr8_gW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhDuUTBHuc&list=PLFE9Lon2WF2kG4Hb-dpWJqy7Yu3Wr8_gW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65yXihc8aXs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2019, 05:47:18 AM
I always thought that Duff - the only man in rock that gets handsomer with age - looks more and more like Bowie.

(https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/static/article/news/2/87372_0_wide_ver1552216136.jpg@642)

(https://townsquare.media/site/443/files/2013/01/bowie.jpg?w=980&q=75)

Now he is beginning to sound like him too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW6YskfuKyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7j4OavFbco
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on September 04, 2019, 07:48:07 AM
He does have that Bowie look!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 04, 2019, 08:06:02 AM
We don't need no bloody guitars.
Just two Bongo(!) basses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhtN8KxO7Ns

That was cool. Not really something I'd listen to often, but 5 minutes worth is good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2019, 08:31:47 AM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/933Zw6wUFtErK/source.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2019, 12:19:50 PM
I don’t think I get it Uwe?  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
FOR OUR DUTCH SUBSCRIBERS:

In jest, I had written some posts ago re this:

I always wondered how Dream Theater without John Petrucci would sound.

Now I know. The improvement is negligible.

Danke. 
:mrgreen:

That was meant to be sarcastic, I sometimes attempt to be.


Your two young Bongoists (who both play and groove like John Myung, it is terrible what the wrong role models can do to our youth) sound like a Dream Theater backing track to me - with John Petrucci's part not yet recorded.

(The guitarist in the gif is John Petrucci. He plays with Dream Theater. That band is very popular with young boys who don't have sex yet. Or older boys living with their mother who somehow missed the train to have sex long ago.)

But it's skillfully done. So was the V2 program, yet nothing good came of it, the moon landing, which didn't take place, excepted of course.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 04, 2019, 07:19:21 PM
Someone in that overrated 70ies outfit (whose name I have conveniently forgotten) had real talent, classy Brit songwriting between Ian Hunter and Nick Lowe:
....

Just for you, since you've forgotten the name of that outfit.

Live at Longhorn Ballroom in Dallas, TX. Tuesday, January 10, 1978

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqS6P4itDPw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2019, 10:51:01 PM
The Dream Theater comparison went over my head like a Concorde.  :mrgreen:
I don't know Dream Theater all that well. I just never listened to them longer than half a song.

The two Bongoists were pointed out to me by a colleague.
I'd never buy any of their records either. But I am impressed by their skills.
Since this is a bass forum, I thought I'd share.
Thats' all Uwe.  ;)


 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on September 05, 2019, 08:46:51 AM
Someone in that overrated 70ies outfit (whose name I have conveniently forgotten) had real talent, classy Brit songwriting between Ian Hunter and Nick Lowe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65yXihc8aXs
Thank you Uwe that was just what I needed
 Ive always felt that "Happy"  was the sonic equivalent to sand under your eyelid, but that version redeemed the song and cheered me up when I was feeling sad
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 06, 2019, 09:18:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDoeZa50Z8g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 07, 2019, 07:39:43 PM
Burt Bacharach supposedly didn't like Arthur Lee's interpretation. I thought it really wasn't that different from the original, which he wrote for the soundtrack of What's New Pussycat.


My favorite version, best played LOUD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Ygbe5hsxE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 07, 2019, 07:41:06 PM
Wasn't The Litter from Minnesota?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 07, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
Wasn't The Litter from Minnesota?

Yes. Zip Caplan is still active with the Surf Dawgs here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 08, 2019, 02:12:09 PM
Cool. I saw them live in Aurora Illinois before I bought the album. Really liked them but didn't know until today that they had a second album.
edit: On further reading Emerge was their third album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 08, 2019, 09:08:28 PM
I don't think their first two albums were distributed nationally. They were popular locally.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 08, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
Still in a blues mood.

https://youtu.be/626pNZB8xXE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 09, 2019, 08:48:54 AM
Thanks for that one, Dave. Another bluesman I hadn't heard of, and a very nice recording for its age. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 09, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
Thank you Uwe that was just what I needed
 Ive always felt that "Happy"  was the sonic equivalent to sand under your eyelid, but that version redeemed the song and cheered me up when I was feeling sad

Is is just me or is Glen Matlock turning into Sam Rockwell? He looks a bit like Rockwell did in Vice as George W.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 09, 2019, 09:37:11 AM
The Dream Theater comparison went over my head like a Concorde.  :mrgreen:
I don't know Dream Theater all that well. I just never listened to them longer than half a song.

The two Bongoists were pointed out to me by a colleague.
I'd never buy any of their records either. But I am impressed by their skills.
Since this is a bass forum, I thought I'd share.
Thats' all Uwe.  ;)

Hey, I enjoyed it! I just wisecracked a little about it - Dave gets unruly if I don't do my daily dose of vitriolic comment here!  8)

Look, I still even buy Dream Theater new product. The fact that I'm not a die hard does not keep me from keeping abreast with what they do. Like them or not, they are an institution at what they do.

Any two kids that - in this day and age - put that much effort into playing their Bongos that exceedingly well get my thumbs up. I'm just no great fan of instrumental music, I regularly need a voice to emotionally latch onto something.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 09, 2019, 10:27:44 PM
Thanks for that one, Dave. Another bluesman I hadn't heard of, and a very nice recording for its age.

Scrapper Blackwell's Kokomo Blues (from the late 1920s) is the song which eventually became Sweet Home Chicago by Robert Johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg2dBSqjrwM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 10, 2019, 02:38:01 AM
I just looked it up.  It was 1928 and I'm very impressed that Scrapper Blackwell could come up with something like that at that point in time.  This is sheer talent. 

https://www.knkx.org/post/kokomo-blues-among-roots-sweet-home-chicago
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 10, 2019, 10:43:42 PM
Nice article.

So many talented blues artists are still little known.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 11, 2019, 08:25:44 AM
They are definitely unacknowledged and that's a shame.  They deserve much better.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 11, 2019, 11:53:14 AM
This gal seems to have taken notes on the highway star guitar cover that other gal did in her undies. This performance has equally inspiring musicianship. The part after 45 seconds especially.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuNBB0Mgl4&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2019, 10:41:40 PM
This gal seems to have taken notes on the highway star guitar cover that other gal did in her undies. This performance has equally inspiring musicianship. The part after 45 seconds especially.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuNBB0Mgl4&feature=player_embedded

That makes me think of Young Frankenstein.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srOd82nsWps
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2019, 10:43:19 PM
I prefer Wilbert Harrison's original but the visuals here are better.  :)

https://youtu.be/Hom0fYd5uX4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 12, 2019, 08:33:16 AM
This gal seems to have taken notes on the highway star guitar cover that other gal did in her undies. This performance has equally inspiring musicianship. The part after 45 seconds especially.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuNBB0Mgl4&feature=player_embedded

I am not entirely sure this qualifies as art. You guys have ulterior motives ...

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/d2Z7LfQ3PC2yZ1sY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 12, 2019, 08:51:38 AM
She looks like a work of art to me, but you're right, this is pandering to our baser instincts. I think she's from Germany so make sure to give her a good tongue lashing if you ever bump in to her.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 12, 2019, 10:43:46 AM
I found one of her playing Bach.  It isn't as smooth as the country playing, but Bach isn't known for his simplicity.  Surely, this should be considered cultural enrichment now that J.S. Bach is involved.  Also, note the intricate dance moves interspersed throughout the video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD4evcDXyyo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 12, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Leo Kottke once pointed out that Bach had 20 children because his organ didn't have any stops.

https://youtu.be/VIQwNTAna6E

https://youtu.be/oAAyJsmutVU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2019, 09:37:09 AM
"Surely, this should be considered cultural enrichment now that J.S. Bach is involved."

Now I am entirely sure it does not. 

Qualify as art I mean.  8)

Or maybe it does. In a post-Dadaistic manner. She even seems to be German (groan ...) which goes a long way in explaining her beginner's banjo playing; she obviously didn't learn it sitting on the patio watching her parents work the land. She meddles in art: stick figure nudes (there must be a double entendre hidden in that term, but I haven't worked it out yet) as a concept.

www.judithclara.de

"My art

The pencil is not lifted until the design is finished.
That's how I design artworks with a single line.
Main theme is the woman as a unique and fascinating being.
The focus is on the clarity of the line and the resulting female forms.
Every artwork is a unique one and thrills with its individual expression."


Fräulein Clara has certainly done away with the unjust stereotype that we strive for perfection in everything we do. Rather, her slogan is "less is more". How apt. And now put on a sweater please, you'll catch a cold.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2019, 09:57:49 AM
And now for some real art ... Yes, I saw the movie and it made me curious about his music so I bought a few CDs. I also found the concept of piano, cello and bass for a trio format rather refreshing. The way he molds classical runs with the Great American Songbook surprised me too.

Had any of you guys heard of him before Green Book came out? I sure hadn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuEe9RbwlBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6XZ7XiNdi8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on September 13, 2019, 10:31:25 AM
This Month I have been mostly listening to The Mission

 That feeling you get when you go to a small local barto check out a one hit wonder from your teens and then find out that their new bass player is the guy who inspired you to play bass in the first place  "Bloody hell. its Craig Adams ! "
(https://i.imgur.com/rGSQuBD.jpg)

after spending most of my life voraciously seeking new music, my late 40s have been charecterised by relistening to bands that I loved as a kid but havent paid attention to in years, and rexperiencing them with the ears of a musician and producer that I now have

the wonder of the internet means that this rediscovering has an amazing depth, the show below was exactly 3 days after I was one of the spiky haired ejits jumping around at the front of their Brighton show on this tour. this was the night that hearing, nay feeling Craig's thunderous basslines made me decide that playing the bass was the job for me

the funny thing is I have always remembered it as a Thunderbird and it turns out its (I Think) an RD !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1IX2EF2ZQ




 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
You are forgiven to mistake an RD for a TBird - a lot of people have before. I remember when RDs came out, people would refer to them as "that new Firebird bass - heavy as a log" and I have a faint memory from discussions here that the RD was even initially slated as a new TBird model (to follow the Bicentennial reissues) and only then developed a life (and an identity) of its own.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 13, 2019, 01:57:58 PM
"Surely, this should be considered cultural enrichment now that J.S. Bach is involved."

Now I am entirely sure it does not. 

Qualify as art I mean.  8)

Or maybe it does. In a post-Dadaistic manner. She even seems to be German (groan ...) which goes a long way in explaining her beginner's banjo playing; she obviously didn't learn it sitting on the patio watching her parents work the land. She meddles in art: stick figure nudes (there must be a double entendre hidden in that term, but I haven't worked it out yet) as a concept.

www.judithclara.de

"My art

The pencil is not lifted until the design is finished.
That's how I design artworks with a single line.
Main theme is the woman as a unique and fascinating being.
The focus is on the clarity of the line and the resulting female forms.
Every artwork is a unique one and thrills with its individual expression."


Fräulein Clara has certainly done away with the unjust stereotype that we strive for perfection in everything we do. Rather, her slogan is "less is more". How apt. And now put on a sweater please, you'll catch a cold.

Her poetry shows she may not be a modern Goethe.  However, she scores an overwhelming victory over him in the looks department.  Anything poetic she might have to offer should probably be considered lagniappe. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on September 13, 2019, 03:33:14 PM
You are forgiven to mistake an RD for a TBird - a lot of people have before.

 I just feel very sheepish that the foundations of my love for this instrument turned out to be based on an error !
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 13, 2019, 06:12:48 PM
Deep Purple and Grand Funk on Playboy After Dark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXcqxms3Bs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ZqcRwC_sU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 13, 2019, 08:42:04 PM
And now for some real art ... Yes, I saw the movie and it made me curious about his music so I bought a few CDs. I also found the concept of piano, cello and bass for a trio format rather refreshing. The way he molds classical runs with the Great American Songbook surprised me too.

Had any of you guys heard of him before Green Book came out? I sure hadn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuEe9RbwlBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6XZ7XiNdi8

I hadn't heard of Don Shirley but Waterboy is an old traditional black folk song. During the 50s and 60s folk era it was recorded and performed by Odetta and also by Harry Belafonte but it's much older than that.

 https://youtu.be/Vs_ObaVU3tE

Still being sung.

https://youtu.be/4pHxAWl4gtc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 14, 2019, 10:08:05 AM
I would imagine the movie Green Book introduced Don Shirley to a lot of people who would never have heard of him otherwise.  I certainly was not aware of him, but jazz fans often are aware of jazz artists from previous decades.  It seems that jazz is somewhat more timeless than "popular" music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 14, 2019, 10:06:05 PM
I would imagine the movie Green Book introduced Don Shirley to a lot of people who would never have heard of him otherwise.  I certainly was not aware of him, but jazz fans often are aware of jazz artists from previous decades.  It seems that jazz is somewhat more timeless than "popular" music.

I'm aware of artists from the past in most genres but never heard of Don Shirley, or of the movie.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2019, 02:06:20 AM
I'm aware of artists from the past in most genres but never heard of Don Shirley, or of the movie.

"Green Book" was in the news because someone made a controversial comment during a press tour. I think that gave it bad PR briefly.  It was also in the news for beating "Roma" for best picture.  Other than that, I knew nothing about the movie until this thread. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 16, 2019, 07:38:54 AM
This Month I have been mostly listening to The Mission

 That feeling you get when you go to a small local barto check out a one hit wonder from your teens and then find out that their new bass player is the guy who inspired you to play bass in the first place  "Bloody hell. its Craig Adams ! "
(https://i.imgur.com/rGSQuBD.jpg)

after spending most of my life voraciously seeking new music, my late 40s have been charecterised by relistening to bands that I loved as a kid but havent paid attention to in years, and rexperiencing them with the ears of a musician and producer that I now have

the wonder of the internet means that this rediscovering has an amazing depth, the show below was exactly 3 days after I was one of the spiky haired ejits jumping around at the front of their Brighton show on this tour. this was the night that hearing, nay feeling Craig's thunderous basslines made me decide that playing the bass was the job for me

the funny thing is I have always remembered it as a Thunderbird and it turns out its (I Think) an RD !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1IX2EF2ZQ

Thanks for that clip. I haven't listened to the Mission in a VERY long time. Brings me back. Stuff like this was huge in Chicago back in the day. I actually saw them open for Robert Plant once. JPJ had just produced an album for them. Interesting Alembic-esque 12 string guitar...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 16, 2019, 07:44:23 AM
It's a buddy movie set in the early 60ies Jim Crow South,  working class Italian Brooklyn bouncer - Tony Lip (he of Sopranos fame) played by Viggo Mortensen - drives ultra-refined black (and gay) classical-turned-jazz-to-earn-a-living pianist - Don Shirley played by Mahershala Ali - on a tour through the South. Tony is a unabashedly racist initially, but has a heart; Don doesn't quite know where he belongs ("If I'm not black enough, not white enough, not man enough, then what am I, Tony?!" is his key outcry in the movie), but sees himself pushed again and again into the "negro"-bracket by people and times. The "Green Book" was a lodging and accommodations guide for black motorists travelling the South - places where they would not be turned away or beat up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkZxoko_HC0

Ali won an Oscar for his supporting role as did the movie as such and the original script.

The film received some criticism from the Shirley family (doubting that Don was ever friends with Tony and the latter not just his employee) and from people bemoaning that it was yet another "white savior"-story. (These days you can't even make a film AGAINST racism anymore without rubbing someone in the wrong pc-way.) I didn't see it that way, if anyone was saved in that movie then it was Tony Lip who had his horizons broadened from his initial ignorant racism. (Back in the early 60ies it was easier to get someone rid of his individual racism than free yourself as a black man from the implications of the general racism all around you.)

Green Book isn't an agitprop movie (it plays in the months before Christmas and you can guess where Don Shirley will somewhat unsurprisingly end up on Christmas Eve and how a bunch of Brooklyn wops overcome their resentments when it comes to sharing food). It's quiet, told straightforward very conservatively and there are no surprising twists, but I liked it. The music - Don Shirley's idiosyncratic mix of jazz, easy listening, classical runs and gospel lovingly recreated and rerecorded by Kris Bowers - struck a chord with me.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 16, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
I really enjoyed Green Book, and am surprised more haven't seen it.  I agree with Uwe that it struck some nice notes, and told its story without waving it in your face.  I also thought the principal actors were excellent, and I believed their portrayals.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2019, 10:47:50 AM
I'm not sure how well that movie was promoted.  The difficulty in finding accommodations reminds me of some of what was discussed in "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 16, 2019, 02:28:06 PM
Shows you how much attention I pay to award shows. Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor and I never heard of its existence.

Since Uwe brought it up, I did a bit of reading about it, and read an article about the pushback from the Shirley family. Among other things, they said the tour was a tour of black colleges and universities, not a general public tour. That alone makes a big difference. Sounds like the movie has a hefty dose of fiction along with the biographical elements.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
Shows you how much attention I pay to award shows. Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor and I never heard of its existence.

Since Uwe brought it up, I did a bit of reading about it, and read an article about the pushback from the Shirley family. Among other things, they said the tour was a tour of black colleges and universities, not a general public tour. That alone makes a big difference. Sounds like the movie has a hefty dose of fiction along with the biographical elements.

Esquire tends to agree about the hefty dose of fiction part.  Yet, the number of times that Hollywood has done this kind of thing can't even be counted.  Hollywood isn't known for its accuracy, needless to say. 

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a26486233/green-book-true-story-explained/





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 16, 2019, 03:08:37 PM
I've liked Ali's acting ever since House of Cards when I first became aware of him. Also his role as the drug dealer with a father's conscience in Moonlight and now this. He could be the new Denzel Washington, a black actor who is not typecast in being the "oh, the black guy" in the movie.

As for fact vs. fiction, it's a movie! Tony Lip's son was incremental in it coming about and he and the director were supposedly instructed by Shirley to (a) not liaise with his (Shirley's) family about the movie, (b) wait until his death with releasing a film about his tour in the South (I guess the gay scene described below has to do with that). But what do I know.

I'm not sure he would have needed a racist white bouncer with Mafia ties and a gun as his driver and bodyguard to tour black colleges and universities in the Deep South. That seems a bit counter-intuitive to me. But the movie is as much My Fair Lady/Pygmalion as it is a buddy black & white movie - with Dr Shirley being Professor Higgins. It's not just about race, it is also about class. Don Shirley is a proudly sophisticated and even vain man throughout the movie, aloof from everyone.

Probably the most nuanced scene is when Tony stumbles into a YMCA sauna/public bath after the police have handcuffed Dr Shirley (and his chance male white lover) naked and beat up to a heater. Dr Shirley is severely embarrassed and evidently surprised how matter-of-factly Tony accepts his homosexuality. When he tries to apologize for bringing Tony "into a situation", Tony says something (I paraphrase) that sounded very familiar to me back when I still worked in the Frankfurt red light district: "Look, I've worked all my life in night clubs, I know artists ... and what's going on ... it's ok." That was not waving a gay agenda flag, it was a simple everyday decent reaction. Make no bones about it, life goes on.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 18, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
Shows you how much attention I pay to award shows. Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor and I never heard of its existence.

Since Uwe brought it up, I did a bit of reading about it, and read an article about the pushback from the Shirley family. Among other things, they said the tour was a tour of black colleges and universities, not a general public tour. That alone makes a big difference. Sounds like the movie has a hefty dose of fiction along with the biographical elements.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that Hollywood would add dramatic elements to a true story!  :o

Seriously Dave, it's a well told story with some great acting. I think you'd find it enjoyable.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 20, 2019, 08:58:19 AM
Jim Croce died 46 years ago today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zomwyZEYZNE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on September 20, 2019, 02:52:02 PM
Aside from Leroy Brown I thought he was a real talent. RIP Jim
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2019, 04:53:53 AM
Shakespear's Sister are back! Those two didn't even speak with each other for like a quarter of the century since their 90ies heydays, but they are back now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8mVXmmmFs

Always dug them, Siobhan's and Marcella's respective voices aren't earth-shattering, but they gel to a vocal sound all of its own. The above (new) song has a Lee Hazlewood vibe. This one (also new) is more a Roy Orbison pastiche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS22dT6u1L8

Their 90ies hits were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-odnJZIyc2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrbFydtLF-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6UkRCaWaKs

Their videos were (and are) brilliant too. I always assumed they were a couple; if it lets you make clever pop like this, then can I be lesbian too please?

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2019, 06:08:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrNcjyxq0yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9U3zyvzAX0

And on the other side of the pond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3mhhT3c7oY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBAhgZZNR7E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 26, 2019, 07:13:42 PM
Remembering Marty Robbins, born 94 years ago today.

https://youtu.be/z5LS2OoDV6s

Johnnie Ray's Top 40 cover.

https://youtu.be/NIy6BAXVZYc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 27, 2019, 01:49:55 PM
You inspired me...my all time favorite of his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBzZJd-nfw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2019, 03:15:41 PM
Bingo! So that is where Ian Gillan got the idea for "Rosa's Cantina" from - name dropping from 50ies music yet again, a penchant of his (think of the Speed King lyrics).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jkQSS8ttg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmpI799vEg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 27, 2019, 10:20:18 PM
Harp Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UV-2E8kEqg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on September 28, 2019, 12:59:43 AM
You inspired me...my all time favorite of his.



Here's mine :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999RqGZatPs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 28, 2019, 10:05:52 AM
GREAT TUNE!  I can sing that one from memory even today...

And BTW, Thursday night my wife and I saw Chicago play...they did two solid hours plus a couple of encores.

They are still rocking, and still have a couple of members from the original lineup - trombone and trumpet. Still a very, very tight sound. 

Their second set started with a killer rendition of "I'm A Man," which they can really stomp. I've loved that number ever since I heard the Spencer Davis/Steve Winwood version. The bass player started it and led much of the tune.  The final encore was "25 or 6 to 4" which was about a 10-minute tour de force.

One thing that struck me was that in "Make Me Smile" there was a long, excellent drum solo, which used to be a staple with great bands, but which you hardly see anymore. They had both a drummer and percussionist, and they swapped places once or twice during the solo as well.  Loved it!

Great concert, recommended.

(I have photos but can't get them small enough to post...)

Hey, I finally made it small enough!  Check this...not sure it's worth posting. I must be doing something wrong.

(http://)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 30, 2019, 08:25:05 AM
Been on a Burt Bacharach kick lately. Man, what an incredible pop song writer! I love his stuff. Reminds me of being a very young kid in the late 60s/early 70s.

Picked up a two CD greatest hits recently. This song here - WOW! Talk about a "different time".  ;D There would be women marching in the streets if this were released today.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlloczLMcMU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 30, 2019, 10:01:23 PM
That came out a few months before the Beatles arrived in New York. Different times, for sure. Jack Jones was singing for those in my parents' generation who couldn't stand our music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 30, 2019, 10:02:46 PM
Best singer in the Carter family, sadly overlooked today.

https://youtu.be/GVj1O02gwHI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 30, 2019, 11:03:41 PM
Best singer in the Carter family, sadly overlooked today.

https://youtu.be/GVj1O02gwHI

I recently saw one of the episodes from the PBS Ken Burns country music documentary.  The story about the Carter family made TV soap operas look like amateur hour. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2019, 05:09:58 AM
Been on a Burt Bacharach kick lately. Man, what an incredible pop song writer! I love his stuff. Reminds me of being a very young kid in the late 60s/early 70s.

Picked up a two CD greatest hits recently. This song here - WOW! Talk about a "different time".  ;D There would be women marching in the streets if this were released today.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlloczLMcMU

Lyrics of eternal truth and relevance.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 01, 2019, 10:43:24 PM
I recently saw one of the episodes from the PBS Ken Burns country music documentary.  The story about the Carter family made TV soap operas look like amateur hour.

Don't get me started. It wasn't a documentary, it was a series of mini-biopics held together by very thin information, leaving out loads of essential history. And most of the bios he did cover were already well known by anyone interested. Granted that non-country fans wouldn't know their backgrounds, but it wasn't as if he dug up anything new.

Anyway, Anita Carter had a beautiful voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Upc2Zmg5co
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 01, 2019, 11:20:23 PM
I was only watching it because my aunt wanted to watch it.  I was just sitting there as a casual observer.  The Civil War is something I know about a lot more than country music.  The Ken Burns documentary on that was very lacking.  But I read in a few places people were disturbed he left out so much vital info in the new country documentary, too.  Basically, it just looks like no matter what the topic, he just gives a superficial view. 

I agree Anita Carter had a superb voice.  So clear and so unlike what you usually hear. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 02, 2019, 06:04:18 AM
Ken Burns talked about Marty Stuart's career a bunch and the Byrds as well but missed a golden opportunity to bring up the commonality those subjects share. The invention of the B bender. I was wondering why Marty's tele looked so strange on his show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8H08Xs_w8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQhbvke44I

I oughta drive over to Walpole and give him a piece of my mind. In fact it's a great time of year for anyone wanting to visit New England whether or not you choose to harangue Mr. Burns for his less than excellent documentary making skills. Feel free to loiter on the Guthrie's property in Washington Massachusetts while you're up here, after all this land is your land.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2019, 09:20:53 AM
I was really skeptical of these guys - what is Ten Years After without Alvin Lee and Gary Leo Lyons? But this live recording has changed my mind, they are now a good blues rock band in their own right (with a bow to Ric Lee's and Chick Churchill's illustrious past of course) - but the new guys don't ape their predecessors (Hodgkinson for instance is a totally different bassist to Lyons and Marcus Bonfanti's vocals are much deeper and more gravelly than Alvin Lee's more nasal delivery of yore, which I liked too) and put their individual stamp on the music. Churchill's organ is now more dominant and that is not a bad thing in my book, I like rock keyboard playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfZ574EaYg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 02, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
I was really sceptical of these guys - what is Ten Years After without Alvin Lee and Gary Lyons?


Leo. Not Gary.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2019, 01:28:18 PM
Right!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 04, 2019, 06:51:59 PM
Leroy Van Dyke is 90 today and still touring.

https://youtu.be/t2l1et1GQik
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: exiledarchangel on October 06, 2019, 09:12:54 AM
I am not really into this modern prog metal thingie, but I really like this. I know, it is a bit out of place with all those old people here :P but give it a try anyway, it is like anal sex, you don't know if you like it if you don't try it first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKPW9tp5oAo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 07, 2019, 07:18:36 AM
I am not really into this modern prog metal thingie, but I really like this. I know, it is a bit out of place with all those old people here :P but give it a try anyway, it is like anal sex, you don't know if you like it if you don't try it first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKPW9tp5oAo

That's an instrumental mix. The original version has a combination of cookie monster, screaming, and melodic vocals. Not my thing, but I have to admire the amount of work and memorization that goes into stuff like this.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2019, 08:48:23 AM
Watch out for the Greekbanger!!!  :mrgreen:

(https://linkybrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/star-trek-quote-17-picture-quote-1.jpg)

No, it's actually quite alright and more prog than metal to my ears though the lines between those two genres have been blurring for a while now.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2019, 08:50:19 AM
Early German Black Metal!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LHQmp3kd8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 08, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
From Herr Osterberg's new and reputedly final (?) album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bgndW7enwE

The above song isn't really representative of the album - still too much guitar -, most tracks sound like you would have imagined a Miles Davis/Iggy Pop collaboration to sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Fq7GYpXnE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw6NKf95VWA

I love Iggy's voice, especially when he's doing more ballady stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 08, 2019, 11:46:11 AM
Is nobody listening to the latest from the Who? Solid stuff compared to what they've previously released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKhGNaiS6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2IN8wYqQ6E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 08, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
Amazing how Daltrey's voice energizes music! 

Those sound very "Who," and the Music Must Fade sounds very much like classic Who.  I like both.
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Post by: slinkp on October 08, 2019, 07:08:52 PM
I like both of those!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 08, 2019, 10:40:54 PM
https://youtu.be/oZKM_yl33pg
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Post by: uwe on October 09, 2019, 06:28:00 AM
That Who stuff is nice. I have the album on order for a while now.
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Post by: slinkp on October 09, 2019, 02:17:05 PM
Aside from new singles by my favorite old geezers the Who ...
I quite like this new single by slightly less old geezers Team Dresch (who formed over 20 years ago).
I saw them live at a club in NYC last week and they did not disappoint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNMipN4Xf84
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Post by: gearHed289 on October 17, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
Local (and international) prog favorites District 97. Their new album Screens was just released Friday. I saw them Sunday, fresh off a run of Euro/UK dates and they were dialed in! These kids are good. Outstanding musicianship, and Leslie really pushes things over the edge with her vocals and stage presence. Bass player Tim Seisser makes boutique basses under the name LowDown. They're not for everyone, but I enjoy them and try to support their efforts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdC0qStjc0U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 17, 2019, 09:23:17 AM
https://youtu.be/Fib8ULp3i2k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2019, 10:27:30 AM
Local (and international) prog favorites District 97. Their new album Screens was just released Friday. I saw them Sunday, fresh off a run of Euro/UK dates and they were dialed in! These kids are good. Outstanding musicianship, and Leslie really pushes things over the edge with her vocals and stage presence. Bass player Tim Seisser makes boutique basses under the name LowDown. They're not for everyone, but I enjoy them and try to support their efforts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdC0qStjc0U

Good stuff, I have two of their albums (the late John Wetton sings on one and they do King Crimson Red era stuff live on it, obviously an influence for them), so, yes, they are known in Europe.
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Post by: uwe on October 18, 2019, 11:08:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLuXiedNBBc&list=RDrpV2qe2Or48&index=3

The Dictators go BÖC (they had the same management at the time) - from their underrated second album Manifest Destiny.
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Post by: Basvarken on October 21, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Just found out about Scottish band called The Rising Souls.
They remind me (a lot) of Rival Sons. Which is not a bad thing per se in my book ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UXorEBbQII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKIlOXRUAoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpmFbsjzSQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esHYXlC-orc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 21, 2019, 04:26:53 PM
https://youtu.be/qAnGe40-o9Q
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Post by: westen44 on October 21, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
My favorite song ever to play in a local cover band from years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3RkFSWh1dM
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Post by: uwe on October 22, 2019, 10:06:26 AM
https://youtu.be/qAnGe40-o9Q

Ah, such an uplifting classic, that was on that legendary early 70ies double LP sampler of Warner Brothers (and some Atlantic) artists somewhat confusingly captioned "Heavy Metal" - at a time when the term was not yet popular or as pigeon-holed as today ...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91-aOLAsDXL._SL1500_.jpg)

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(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Hq0j83%2BbL._SL1500_.jpg)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1u8aKWsw4L._SL1500_.jpg)

Everyone of those songs made me curious for the band behind it and Ride Captain Ride was among my favorites (it was the last track on side 4). I'd go as far as to say as that that double album someone lent me around 1974 in Kinshasa was pivotal for my musical taste even today (I hear Dave moaning in the background: "stadium rock ..."). It explains why I can like something "hip" (= rock critics like it) such as the MC5 alongside something totally unhip as Foghat (rock critics laugh about it). Both acts were on that album - as were T. Rex and Yes, another combination you don't see too often.

Sorry for not being able to downsize the pictures enough so that they show properly here (you have to move the bar at the end of this post sideways to see it all).

Blood, Sweat & Tears did a version some years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52A_M1At1A

and even though it has both the blessing of Mike Pinera as a co-writer and the typically lavishly free BS&T arrangement (which I usually dig and David Clayton-Thomas can do no wrong for me in any case), the Blues Image version hits more home with me (Dave is gonna hate the BS&T version, way too jazzy!).

Mike is still doing it nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axvkr1qSS8c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
And speaking of David Clayton-Thomas ... He is still vocal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVlnjPAVZf8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2019, 01:14:51 PM
Just found out about Scottish band called The Rising Souls.
They remind me (a lot) of Rival Sons. Which is not a bad thing per se in my book ;-)

Why don't they have a CD out?
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Post by: Basvarken on October 22, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
I think they have a self released EP CD called Set Me Free.
But yeah, record companies seem to have their heads up their arses...
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Post by: tore00 on October 22, 2019, 02:21:41 PM
I’ve just completed listening a 4 CD Yes box set. Amazing listening covering more than 25 years
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Post by: Dave W on October 22, 2019, 11:21:15 PM
Nothing says Heavy Metal like Delaney & Bonnie.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: westen44 on October 23, 2019, 12:04:56 AM
Nothing says Heavy Metal like Delaney & Bonnie.  :mrgreen:

About as heavy metal as Jethro Tull beating Metallica for a Grammy in 1989.   ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 23, 2019, 08:09:50 AM
Definitely less. Tull at least have hard rock/heavy rock influences, especially in their 70ies era. Hard rock in strange meters before Rush did it.  :mrgreen: Their live act was pretty hard rockish too, introspective they were not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_lQ0H4zZEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuCr4Zc_QEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWubhw8SoBE

Anderson was always cognizant of the fact that Tull were also serving the needs of a hard rock audience as well, not that he sometimes didn't deplore that fact, especially on lengthy US tours where audiences were not always receptive of the finer aspects of Tull's music.

I appreciate Tull's/Anderson's craft and idiosyncratic style, but I tend to tire quickly of his mannered vocals (and the voice mannerisms have become even more blatant over the decades). For some reason, Warchild is my favorite album. Perhaps because it is a bit "glammy".
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Post by: westen44 on October 23, 2019, 01:14:41 PM
That Fat Mattress (which like Jethro Tull also had flutes and foppish band members) never received recognition for their contribution to heavy metal continues to be baffling.  BTW, Hendrix called them "Thin Pillow."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnI5Aw1uCm0
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Post by: amptech on October 23, 2019, 10:05:31 PM

I appreciate Tull's/Anderson's craft and idiosyncratic style, but I tend to tire quickly of his mannered vocals (and the voice mannerisms have become even more blatant over the decades).

Ditto. I checked out some early albums (because of gibson bass contents perhaps?), and I have that newspaper album somewhere in my LP collection.. but the vocals put me off after some time. But a lot of good music in there.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 23, 2019, 11:28:13 PM
https://youtu.be/aWGUeRk8LCA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 24, 2019, 10:47:05 AM
That Fat Mattress (which like Jethro Tull also had flutes and foppish band members) never received recognition for their contribution to heavy metal continues to be baffling.  BTW, Hendrix called them "Thin Pillow."


Ah, that is where that song came from, I always wondered and only knew the Quatermass version as a predecessor to the Rainbow one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQeeQgOFI04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPYDGfGbnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Ir7cHYDdo

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Post by: westen44 on October 24, 2019, 11:05:56 AM
That Rainbow version is really a nice one. 
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Post by: uwe on October 24, 2019, 12:15:41 PM
I like the Quatermass one even better.
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Post by: uwe on October 24, 2019, 12:26:50 PM
Oh my, here goes my hard rock credibility ...  :-\ I know, I know, I know ...  :gay: :gay: :gay: ... but what would we be without our guilty pleasures I cry? And hey, the way they criss-cross Georgy Girl with Ticket to Ride is pretty nifty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBC911tWsAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqXnzAiC2I8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqv8bpLec8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLwqz_ccDMM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpLawWbaOA

To boot, I think I have fallen in love with that dewy-eyed cute bassist (Paul Layton), who is a great melodic player with a wonderful groove - sans any drums!
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Post by: westen44 on October 24, 2019, 05:51:26 PM
I like the Quatermass one even better.

The Quartermass version is definitely good and a lot of people seem to like it.  But the Rainbow version evokes a certain mood which appeals to me a little more. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 24, 2019, 09:23:39 PM
If we're talking about pop, how about this rarity from South Africa?

https://youtu.be/A0WvXpyufT8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2019, 07:20:35 AM
Bit Karen Carpenterish, who I like as is well-documented. So there was South African pop before this, who'd have thought ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVweiOfGJ5A

And now for something completely different: These guys not only have awesome hair ...

(http://www.natur-lexikon.com/Bilder/VS/001/VS000213-Pudel.jpg)

... but they also sound - ever so faintly - reminiscent of another band I kinda like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoGILwip2cs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjX2jgxZLSU&list=RDkjX2jgxZLSU&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqGrje5aqE&list=RDkjX2jgxZLSU&index=4

An American hard rock band that does not emulate Robbie & The Hindenburgs or whatever they were called again. :o :o :o A-ma-zing. I didn't know you guys had it even in you.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Basvarken on October 25, 2019, 07:41:07 AM
Oh my, here goes my hard rock credibility ...  :-\ I know, I know, I know ...  :gay: :gay: :gay: ... but what would we be without our guilty pleasures I cry? And hey, the way they criss-cross Georgy Girl with Ticket to Ride is pretty nifty!
Geez Uwe,
Are you sure they didn't touch any vital organs when they gave you a new knee? Uwe's comment: Well, I do receive radio signals now and then ...

This music is horrible :-[
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2019, 08:00:07 AM
I think that the drummer does their curlers.
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Post by: gearHed289 on October 25, 2019, 09:02:18 AM
This came up on shuffle this morning. A "bit" of a nod to Little Wing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5QukAC-jqE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 25, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
South African singer Alice Phoebe Lou from when she was busking in Berlin. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1y07RdryY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
This came up on shuffle this morning. A "bit" of a nod to Little Wing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5QukAC-jqE

Nope. Intentional rip-off. :mrgreen: Blackmore has never made any bones about being impressed by Hendrix. It's still one of my favorite Rainbow songs, he's done great live versions of it, extending the song to 20 minutes with some really introspective playing. He is a master at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvVKj0c0UTQ&list=RDUvVKj0c0UTQ&start_radio=1&t=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9wejfyAbE
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Post by: uwe on October 25, 2019, 11:35:00 AM
Geez Uwe,
Are you sure they didn't touch any vital organs when they gave you a new knee?
This music is horrible :-[

I'm relaxed with my more feminine pop side!  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5z7Uxo625w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGKrgJZhpzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26krlXFmOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iK5e76auJA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6T6Yj5u4k

Not everything has to be funky-riffy with sluggish Bonham drums, Herr van den Broek!!!  :mrgreen:
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Post by: uwe on October 25, 2019, 11:50:11 AM
I think that the drummer does their curlers.

After his experiment with the curler went horribly wrong - the man is a living testament to RTFM!

That's Kenny Aaronson btw, I had no idea he had a hunch for Purple style music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
South African singer Alice Phoebe Lou from when she was busking in Berlin. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1y07RdryY

Sigh, Alanis Morissette has wreaked havoc with a whole generation of female singers.  :mrgreen:

But I actually like her version, overwrought vocals or not.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 25, 2019, 12:54:56 PM
Sigh, Alanis Morissette has wreaked havoc with a whole generation of female singers.  :mrgreen:

But I actually like her version, overwrought vocals or not.

I get the impression she is totally a free spirit. She refuses record contracts and still sometimes busks in Berlin whenever she feels like it, despite now playing to audiences all over the world.  But even Kierkegaard would have been better off with an editor.  And even Hendrix listened to Chas Chandler's advice on how to streamline "Little Wing" down to its pure essence.  Sometimes vocal coaches, managers and producers can be helpful even to those who are really talented.  
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 25, 2019, 06:24:09 PM
Bit Karen Carpenterish, who I like as is well-documented. So there was South African pop before this, who'd have thought ...


She (Glenys Lynne) predates Karen Carpenter. She's Afrikaans and was singing before joining with the band, who are of English origin. She later married the bassist.  :)  They still do a few shows a year.

It was a very strange song to be such a big international hit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 25, 2019, 07:12:34 PM
She (Glenys Lynne) predates Karen Carpenter. She's Afrikaans and was singing before joining with the band, who are of English origin. She later married the bassist.  :)  They still do a few shows a year.

It was a very strange song to be such a big international hit.

I noticed they briefly got mentioned in "This is Spinal Tap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1q-zeqh3AI
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Post by: westen44 on October 25, 2019, 10:56:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jShMQw2H2cM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 26, 2019, 01:04:51 AM

Not everything has to be funky-riffy with sluggish Bonham drums, Herr van den Broek!!!  :mrgreen:

Agreed.
But that misery that you posted (especially Georgie Girl) made my toes curls backwards in my shoes and it made the fillings in my molars pop out!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 26, 2019, 07:31:19 AM

An American hard rock band that does not emulate Robbie & The Hindenburgs or whatever they were called again. :o :o :o A-ma-zing. I didn't know you guys had it even in you.  :mrgreen:

Just when you thought we were out, they drag us back in,  :vader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42rmUlDiQDI
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Post by: Basvarken on October 26, 2019, 11:40:55 AM
I like it
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Post by: westen44 on October 26, 2019, 12:28:27 PM
Just when you thought we were out, they drag us back in,  :vader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42rmUlDiQDI

After Greta Van Fleet, I really wasn't expecting another LZ rip-off band.  I know the world is a pretty big place, but I still wonder how much more of this kind of stuff it can contain.  LZ had their say, although I much preferred the Yardbirds.  But maybe it's time to move on. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 26, 2019, 12:30:43 PM
For me this has not much in common with Led Zeppelin.
Except maybe the screamin parts in the lead vocal.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 26, 2019, 02:38:09 PM
This article says they were mostly influenced by LZ nd AC/DC.  But they don't sound like AC/DC at all to me. 

https://www.rawmusictv.com/article/amp/2019/Unsigned-band-make-Rock-history-by-landing-number-one-Billboard-Chart-position-Dirty-Honey
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Post by: Dave W on October 26, 2019, 03:14:42 PM
I noticed they briefly got mentioned in "This is Spinal Tap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1q-zeqh3AI

No idea if that was intended to be a reference to the real band or just a comic aside. They did a couple of US tours back in the day but never played Kansas City, much less at a Ramada Inn.  :)

Their 2019 promo video

https://youtu.be/rYHnTk4B1Is
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Post by: westen44 on October 26, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
I think it was likely a comic aside.  Most of the movie is about stuff that wasn't even real anyway. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 27, 2019, 03:02:18 AM
I think it was likely a comic aside.  Most of the movie is about stuff that wasn't even real anyway.

Wait! What?
Spinal Tap wasn’t for real?
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 27, 2019, 07:21:13 AM
Wait! What?
Spinal Tap wasn’t for real?
 :mrgreen:

It was funny.  ;D  I wish they could come up with stuff like that more often, but I guess comedy isn't very easy. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 27, 2019, 03:58:56 PM
I read today that Joe Sun died Friday. Rochester, Minnesota native. He hadn't been active in a long time. I liked his stuff from the late 70s to mid 80s.

From 1978.

https://youtu.be/vNyEKkRU1rk
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Post by: uwe on October 28, 2019, 07:56:20 AM
I like it

What else is new?  :mrgreen:

Not Led Zep'ish you say? You used to lie a lot better!  :-* :mrgreen: It has Zep-marks all over it, just listen to the guitar arrangement during the chorus. Not all of their songs are in that vein though, it has to be said. No CD out yet (just an EP), but it probably won't be long.

It's well done, no issue with it. Getting Led Zep out of the US rock blood system is futile. They have thoroughly contaminated you (and - obviously - parts of The Netherlands).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 28, 2019, 09:28:44 AM
To me they sound more like a mix between AC/DC and Aerosmith. If that is the same as Led Zeppelin in your book, than it's fine with me. You might as well say that all hard rock bands are Led Zeppelin clones.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 28, 2019, 11:52:16 AM
I read today that Joe Sun died Friday. Rochester, Minnesota native. He hadn't been active in a long time. I liked his stuff from the late 70s to mid 80s.

From 1978.

https://youtu.be/vNyEKkRU1rk

This song was co-written by Dickey Betts.  Up to this point, I wasn't familiar with it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BRDtD92kk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 28, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
To me they sound more like a mix between AC/DC and Aerosmith. If that is the same as Led Zeppelin in your book, than it's fine with me. You might as well say that all hard rock bands are Led Zeppelin clones.

Nope, there are - thankfully so - a lot of hard and heavy rock bands which are largely or totally Led Zep-content-free: Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Golden Earring, Queensryche, Thin Lizzy, Ted Nugent, Bloodrock, Status Quo, Cactus, Grand Funk Railroad, Foghat, Scorpions, Judas Priest, James Gang, Accept, Saxon, Humble Pie, UFO/MSG, Blue Öyster Cult, Iron Maiden, Nazareth, Motörhead, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Bad Company (though on Swan Song, Led Zep's vanity label), Mott the Hoople, Slade ...

Zep's dominance as a musical influence is very much an American phenomenon. Whitesnake is a good example - their music was still un-zep'ish on their early to mid period albums (when they reigned Europe and Japan, but couldn't get arrested in the US). Come Coverdale's urge to crack the US market, come the first marked Zep influence with Slow 'n' Easy on Slide It In (after dissolution of the classic Whitesnake lineup) and of course Still of the Night on the US-conquering 1987 album. All credit must go to Peter Grant who kept Led Zep touring the US (and pretty much nowhere else) so incessantly until they had even a country as huge as the US in their pocket. He sure had a master plan, he criss-cross-vaccinated the biggest music market in the world with his protegés.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 28, 2019, 09:50:03 PM
This song was co-written by Dickey Betts.  Up to this point, I wasn't familiar with it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BRDtD92kk

That's the flip side of Ready For The Times To Get Better, which was Joe's 1980 cover of Crystal Gayle's 1978 hit.

Old Flames Can't Hold a Candle to You was co-written by Hugh Moffatt and his then-wife Pebe Sebert, who is the mother of the notorious Ke$ha, who has now dropped the dollar sign and is just Kesha. I noticed she was scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. Glad I missed it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 28, 2019, 10:14:44 PM
That's the flip side of Ready For The Times To Get Better, which was Joe's 1980 cover of Crystal Gayle's 1978 hit.

Old Flames Can't Hold a Candle to You was co-written by Hugh Moffatt and his then-wife Pebe Sebert, who is the mother of the notorious Ke$ha, who has now dropped the dollar sign and is just Kesha. I noticed she was scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. Glad I missed it.

My familiarity with Kesha is pretty sketchy.  Usually when I see her name it has something to do with suing her producer for sexual assault.  But it isn't a case I've kept up with. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 29, 2019, 09:00:55 AM
I just know her from this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcvBnhq0lFA

Old age is taking its toll on me: I had tickets to see The Struts in Cologne last Friday and then forgot to go. Ouch. The ticket company sends me an email on Sunday and asks me: "How did you like The Struts in concert, Uwe?" How inane ...  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 29, 2019, 01:56:39 PM
This was her first big hit. Despite the trashiness, she does have a good voice.

https://youtu.be/iP6XpLQM2Cs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 31, 2019, 05:35:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a8CAS6I2DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dD7KeRETsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnzXZlm4wwg

Bass playing is decent and it's good for a laugh too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2019, 10:54:22 AM
More than just decent, I love that type of 70ies "busy disco lead bass"!  :mrgreen: And it is actually him who plays the bass on his recordings.

Reminds me of stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbpsI2c_3-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDos4AGjHgI
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Post by: 4stringer77 on October 31, 2019, 12:18:53 PM
All roads lead to Deep Purple it seems.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2019, 01:03:58 PM
I think it was Neil Stubenhaus, certainly not Glenn Hughes, who played bass on that Four On The Floor session most Deep Purple fans wish to remain silent about!  :) Hughes was funky, but he wasn't really disco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOTfkhgJwIo

But I accept the - thinly veiled - criticism!  :-[ Let's see whether we can find a non-DP connected example, ah, there it is (and don't ask me what the geese have to do with it, it's a clip from German TV, they are like that there....) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIVrlfB5-M

(I will simply not mention that Hot Chocolate were disco-vered by DP producer Derek Lawrence and that Hot Chocolate's white guitarist was a bandmate of Ritchie Blackmore way back in the 60ies!)  :rimshot:

(They're probably watching me ... Well, let them ... Let them see what kind of a person I am ...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYDxxHrlmUg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
For Alice in Chains and Velvet Revolver fans - Grunge ain't dead - who also have a few Black Sabbath and Billy Idol albums at home:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep5NHWELz04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUPp6fD7Jco

Geezer playing Rebel Yell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcrOND6DEs

Steve Stevens playing Symptom of the Universe - and they say the world can't come together!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZnkkRff-Xc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 31, 2019, 09:37:27 PM
https://youtu.be/ia6TgZACY78

https://youtu.be/MBhmNIw92n8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 01, 2019, 07:16:16 AM
That's Phil Chen right? Cool to see a Hamer 12 string too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 01, 2019, 08:03:32 AM
Pretty sure that's Nick Lowe on his Hamer 8.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 01, 2019, 09:22:15 PM
That's definitely Nick Lowe.

I always liked Juice Newton's version and video.

https://youtu.be/P0DK-0fIKCw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 04, 2019, 09:29:21 AM
"I knew the bride ..." needs Nick Lowe or it's not the same to me ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn1CXbf2xF8

I love his work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hzkBihaew

I loved his Bay City Rollers spoofs too, he got their signature sound down pat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMlDL5LFxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5ofPLKFps
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on November 04, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
Sounds like The Partridge Family.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 04, 2019, 09:49:35 PM
With or without Nick Lowe, any time is Dave Edmunds time. Even wearing shorts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD_pmx1Y-8o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2019, 01:54:33 PM
That's definitely Nick Lowe.

I always liked Juice Newton's version and video.

https://youtu.be/P0DK-0fIKCw

Holy Newton, now the Juice bug has bitten me and I ordered a handful of her CDs ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 05, 2019, 05:54:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkHjqrvNPWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngXC2rAjFKA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2019, 06:47:29 PM
If a thing is worth doing, it's worth overdoing and I'm currently wallowing through this here ...

(http://cdn.smehost.net/bobdylancom-uscolumbiaprod/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/DylanRollingThunderBox_webbanner.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2019, 06:54:36 PM
And this guy here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhbxh4bQtw
(Epi JC Sig in sight)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gB0BuQC9mA


And Jeff Lynne still has that Beatles chip boulder on his shoulder ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5dRg2bq4oc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 05, 2019, 08:08:26 PM
Despite other stuff he has done (Traveling Wiblurys, George Harrison albums, etc.) I've always thought Jeff Lynne was at his best with his ELO music.  ELO sounds really good in concert, too.  It's understandable that John Lennon compared ELO and the Beatles to each other, though.  But to me Jeff Lynne sounds more like the Beatles when he is with ELO, not collaborating with someone else--even if it's George Harrison. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
Agreed, but there is also a slight cheesiness factor in Lynne's ELO music that even Macca at his most popularity-craving doesn't have.

But he is an excellent craftsman.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 06, 2019, 08:11:40 AM
Agreed, but there is also a slight cheesiness factor in Lynne's ELO music that even Macca at his most popularity-craving doesn't have.

But he is an excellent craftsman.

Yes, that's true.  No one who says they listen to ELO a lot is going to be viewed as a hard rock person.  Also, although I like George Harrison, I would have preferred that he had collaborated with someone else other than Jeff Lynne.  Like on that "Cloud Nine" album, George Harrison seemed way too influenced by Jeff Lynne for me.  But George obviously thought highly of him.  To me Jeff Lynne did well especially with some of those early ELO songs when he was at the peak of his creativity.  That ELO music has always been criticized for being too cheesy of course.  Some of the harshest criticism was directed toward the "Xanadu" movie with so much ELO music in it.  Still, I think ELO got a bum rap.  Even the movie wasn't quite so bad as they make it out to be.  I've seen way worse movies.  Has anyone seen "The Pest" with John Leguizamo?  That's the worst movie in the history of the world. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on November 06, 2019, 08:36:02 AM
Robert Randolph is a breath of fresh air on that steel.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
Yes, that's true.  No one who says they listen to ELO a lot is going to be viewed as a hard rock person.  Also, although I like George Harrison, I would have preferred that he had collaborated with someone else other than Jeff Lynne.  Like on that "Cloud Nine" album, George Harrison seemed way too influenced by Jeff Lynne for me.  But George obviously thought highly of him.  To me Jeff Lynne did well especially with some of those early ELO songs when he was at the peak of his creativity.  That ELO music has always been criticized for being too cheesy of course.  Some of the harshest criticism was directed toward the "Xanadu" movie with so much ELO music in it.  Still, I think ELO got a bum rap.  Even the movie wasn't quite so bad as they make it out to be.  I've seen way worse movies.  Has anyone seen "The Pest" with John Leguizamo?  That's the worst movie in the history of the world.

Anything Lynne produces, he puts hydraulic-presses his stamp on ... Travelling Wilburys, Joe Walsh, Tom Petty, Harrison, he did one song for Bryan Adams and what does it sound like ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbiBM1Piy1Q

But people who hire him, know and want exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlfCyHbLdpI

But he couldn't better this here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs_xeUk_N3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztkUuunI7g



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 06, 2019, 11:47:44 AM
Sheesh.  Jeff Lynne might as well have gone ahead and been in the video himself.  I prefer the "Cuts Like A Knife" Bryan Adams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VZhSkREYBc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 06, 2019, 03:12:26 PM
The singer/guitarist of my former band is a huge fan of Jeff Lynne.

His new solo album is about to be released. This song has some obvious ELO influences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v65unfdVhN0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2019, 03:30:16 PM
Yup, it does!

Herr Lynne in younger years on an instrument we normally don't associate him with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQEPYfXWWnI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWGGgh-GN4

And that is Richard Tandy on bass - who later became ELO's keyboardsmith.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 06, 2019, 03:45:52 PM
The article about the Spinal Tap lawsuit caused me to break out my Stumpy Joe CD from 1991. AFAIK the only band named after Spinal Tap's second drummer, Eric "Stumpy Joe" Childs, who choked to death on someone else's vomit.

https://youtu.be/ntOOSbbrn8s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 06, 2019, 04:46:56 PM
The singer/guitarist of my former band is a huge fan of Jeff Lynne.

His new solo album is about to be released. This song has some obvious ELO influences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v65unfdVhN0

I'm repeating myself, but the more Jeff Lynne's music has an ELO-influenced sound, the better off it is, IMO. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
Something for Rob to complain about again!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY-CKe4lvwY

Currently listening to a double CD of his greatest hits - he had a few.

And then I go from easy listening to everybody's favorite shoegazer prog ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777tLwJFcJ0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 06, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
I'm repeating myself, but the more Jeff Lynne's music has an ELO-influenced sound, the better off it is, IMO.

But this is Mick Hup's music.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 06, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
Something for Rob to complain about again!  :mrgreen:

I prefer when he still played bass  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChPI5pAet8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 06, 2019, 11:38:35 PM
But this is Mick Hup's music.  ;)


To be honest, I only listened to a few seconds of that.  I was just trying to make a point (not very well) that I like Jeff Lynne's ELO music, but not so much his non-ELO music.  The greatest example of that would be what he did with George Harrison.  I'm a George Harrison fan, yet really don't like the music he did with Jeff Lynne--the "Cloud Nine" album probably being the greatest example.  It was a commercial success, that is true.  But compared to, for example, Harrison's early albums it sounded pretty lousy to me.  But to counterbalance this, I can sit through ELO concerts and really like them. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2019, 08:50:10 AM
I prefer when he still played bass  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChPI5pAet8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5pESPQpXxE

I had no idea he was a colleague! Lovely.

And of course you're right, the song I posted was pretty much your typical 80ies saccharine ballad, no comparison to this classic or other stuff he has done.

Kenny Rogers a bassist, who knew! The Last Bass Outpost continues to promote knowledge.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 07, 2019, 08:56:58 AM
And then I go from easy listening to everybody's favorite shoegazer prog ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777tLwJFcJ0

I've been listening to Mr. Wilson's solo stuff this past week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYfQ1I-VV7M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 07, 2019, 09:17:05 AM

I had no idea he was a colleague! Lovely.


This is actually even cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULOC--qUOI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2019, 10:09:49 AM
That is the first song on that double CD compilation I bought and it floored when I heard it - not C&W or easy listening by a stretch, more something you might expect from Bob Seger or Edgar Winter. I had to look at the CD and check whether AMAZON had sent me something wrong!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 07, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
Many people were first introduced to Kenny Rogers when he appeared on the Smothers Brothers show in the 1960s.  "just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In" was a good example of what was going on with psychedelic stuff at that time.  Something which was very brief but also very real. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5PUsrAgDY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 07, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
In today's (fake) news: Jeff Lynne’s Estranged Dog Arrested For Identity Theft (https://madhousemagazine.com/jeff-lynnes-estranged-dog-arrested-for-identity-theft/)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 07, 2019, 10:27:08 AM
In today's (fake) news: Jeff Lynne’s Estranged Dog Arrested For Identity Theft (https://madhousemagazine.com/jeff-lynnes-estranged-dog-arrested-for-identity-theft/)  :mrgreen:

LMAO!!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2019, 10:28:33 AM
I don't get it, I see no picture of a dog, just one of an obviously younger Jeff Lynne in a jeans jacket.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 07, 2019, 10:36:13 AM
Now, Kenny Rogers is a real bassist, but all the First Edition bass parts were done by Joe Osborn.

Back when I was in high school in Houston, Kenneth (as he was known then) was playing upright and electric bass and singing harmony with the Bobby Doyle Three, a jazz/pop combo. They had a regular gig at a club near the Shamrock Hilton. They also did some touring and put out an album and at least one single that got local airplay. Bobby was a blind pianist who later settled in Austin.

Before that, he had a local hit with this, written by local country singer Ray Doggett.

https://youtu.be/JH2DKdrw_os

The First Edition was never as good after Thelma Camacho left. I had a crush on her 50 years ago. I read an article about her a few years back, she was a craft jeweler in san Diego.

https://youtu.be/sLHurBV5--8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 07, 2019, 11:15:28 AM
Having a crush on Thelma Camacho wouldn't have been a very difficult thing to do.

Overall, I've got to say I really don't know much about Kenny Rogers other than the obvious things.  I've heard my uncle tell a story, though, of once being at a Kenny Rogers concert somewhere.  Somehow he had a backstage pass.  I never caught the details, but at some point (during the show itself) he ended getting bored, decided to go backstage and evidently found himself in Kenny Rogers' dressing room.  Evidently, he didn't like Kenny Rogers' music as much as he was expecting.  I felt the same way when some friends once convinced me to see the Marshall Tucker Band. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 08, 2019, 11:14:26 AM
Studio outtake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_p5guB7dis
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2019, 11:24:19 AM
Why is everything so sad in my life ...  :-\  I'm feeling all mellotronic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qks__ZNvhiw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 08, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Depressing or not, British alternative rock is a welcome relief to the cookie-cutter music so common in America.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 08, 2019, 04:01:23 PM
Yup, Suede is one of few mellodramatic bands I like listen to. Somehow I never could stand the likes of for example The Smiths which I find being essentially the same genre.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 12, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
Some newish English prog (deeply entrenched in Genesis tradition), harmony guitar safety warning at 3:04:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh6tPwd4GNA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 13, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Some newish English prog (deeply entrenched in Genesis tradition), harmony guitar safety warning at 3:04:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh6tPwd4GNA

Big Big Train are pretty "big" on the prog scene. Some of their stuff IS a little too Genesis-sounding, but they're a good band. But have we not all learned to not play "air instruments" in videos?  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatorN4P9aA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 13, 2019, 09:28:24 AM
Admittedly, there were bands that pulled the "bad boys in the docklands"-image off slightly more convincingly  :mrgreen: than Journey in this particular vid, but, man, that song is still a cracker of a stomping hard rock hymn with soaring vocals. When I first heard it I almost creamed in my pants and I wasn't even a Journey fan back then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 14, 2019, 10:06:57 AM
Gotta admit, it is a strong song. Better without the visuals! Fun to play on keys.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 14, 2019, 12:43:49 PM
It's not your traditional single song. It's not a ballad and it's faster than mid-tempo, the keyboard swaths are dark/progish and the rhythm battered out underneath them by drums, bass and guitar is uncompromising. And Perry's one-of-a-kind vocals just soar above the melée with a melody quite removed from what is going on behind him. That song proved that Journey were not just pussy-footin' ballads.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 15, 2019, 05:26:45 AM
When I saw them co-headlining with Def Leppard in 2006 (with some Steve Perry sound-alike on vocals) there were still quite a lot of us lined up in the parking lot to get in when Journey started. The first song was something that didn't get much reaction from the masses gradually shuffling through the security gates toward the entrance of the Jones Beach theater.  And then the opening notes of "Separate Ways" floated out and there was a massive collective groan of disappointment.

It's not hard to guess that would be the favorite Journey song in a crowd that also wants to see Def Leppard. I still can't fathom why they started playing while a couple thousand people were still outside or why that song wasn't held in reserve for the inevitable encore.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 18, 2019, 11:19:22 PM
This song reminds me a little of Joan Osborn's "One of Us" although it's more poppy than Joan's..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJe2n45W5Vo

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 19, 2019, 11:54:15 PM
Audioslave--Moth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3vznBgr4A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 20, 2019, 09:59:04 PM
https://youtu.be/e0iHFFgDu9c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 21, 2019, 08:34:36 AM
I'm currently listening to loads of early Climax Blues Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOlVE9b6fAM

- my knowledge of them was limited, basically their 1976 hit "Couldn't Get It Right" (which was atypical for them), but now I've invested in two boxed sets and am beginning to wonder why their blues rock legacy is not up there with early Fleetwood Mac.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on November 21, 2019, 10:59:44 AM


 I really like this, guess my musical taste is still that of a 17 year old. Stupid. Simple. Good!
Nice to Billy Duffy doing something new!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5rz8bSYuyo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2019, 10:33:24 PM
I first saw videos of this guy a few years ago when he was a teenager, he was a talented guitarist. Now he's all of 20 and put out his first album earlier this year. He can sing too.

Also, he's a first cousin once removed of Charley Pride.

https://youtu.be/0tyGm_DnaWM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 22, 2019, 06:48:16 AM
Here's another larger than life entertainer I heard for the first time on  tv the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNeJ80HY8w

On a related note, according to wikipedia, Christone's cousin Charley didn't care for the racial undertones he perceived in the song. I don't see what's wrong with it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2019, 08:29:00 AM

 I really like this, guess my musical taste is still that of a 17 year old. Stupid. Simple. Good!
Nice to Billy Duffy doing something new!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5rz8bSYuyo

I like Michael Anthony's bass playing, he has wonderful groove.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on November 22, 2019, 09:02:25 AM
 I like Michael Anthony's playing a lot too, he knows how to serve a song - It pleases me to no end that he and Sammy get on well and that the two of them are removed from the shit show known as Van Halen.


 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 22, 2019, 09:10:50 AM
Nice. I would have liked to hear more Billy Duffy influence in that song though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 22, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
I first saw videos of this guy a few years ago when he was a teenager, he was a talented guitarist. Now he's all of 20 and put out his first album earlier this year. He can sing too.

Also, he's a first cousin once removed of Charley Pride.

https://youtu.be/0tyGm_DnaWM

I really like that!  I checked his tour page and he's not in the Denver area any time soon, but you never know...I'll keep an eye out.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2019, 11:10:34 AM
The Smiths are always current and now have a new lyric writer of German origin, very, very talented, it's the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlxndvMQVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkB019-cJc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on November 22, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
The Smiths are always current and now have a new lyric writer of German origin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlxndvMQVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkB019-cJc
Lol I've now heard that verse in the style of the Ramones, Nine inch nails, and now the smiths whats next do you think ?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2019, 11:19:00 AM
Haven't heard the Ramones version, where is it? The Bruddahs commemorating a fellow New Yorker Floridian!

There will be a Rammstein version too no doubt:

Ich ...
Ich will ...
Ich will nichts ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Ah, there it is, lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=8lnycszxXVk&feature=emb_logo

Goes to show how words of eternal truth just about fit to any type of music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 22, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
Metal Trump is pretty awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxkn5sDSYVU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 22, 2019, 12:45:05 PM
great mashup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4HffbAUTk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 22, 2019, 03:19:24 PM
I will nichts.  LMAO.  My knowledge of German continues to expand.  However, I finally got my German course in the mail and it's an American speaking with an Austrian accent.  Certainly, I was hoping for an actual German, preferably one like my tour guide who was from somewhere in central Germany and spoke the most beautiful German I'd ever heard. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 22, 2019, 04:43:34 PM
If my German is still accurate from 1966, that's "Ich werde nichts..."  Which I should add is one of the few phrases I recall from that class in high school. 

But it was astounding how much came back to me a couple of years ago during a Viking cruise down the Rhine. The structure is consistent and so many word roots are shared with (read: helped create) 'Murrican English.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 22, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
If my German is still accurate from 1966, that's "Ich werde nichts..."  Which I should add is one of the few phrases I recall from that class in high school. 

But it was astounding how much came back to me a couple of years ago during a Viking cruise down the Rhine. The structure is consistent and so many word roots are shared with (read: helped create) 'Murrican English.

Yes, I just noticed I typed "I" by mistake instead of "Ich."  However, I have had no German at all.  I only took Spanish in high school.  I was attempting to quote Uwe, but missed the word "Ich."  English does share a lot of words with German.  However, the languages are so different, I haven't decided yet how much help that will be.  I haven't taken any French, either.  But I'm going through a French course now.  I'm finding it easier than the German.  I'm surprised at how many cognates there are due to thousands of French words coming into the English language after 1066. 

As for 'werde" or "will" I've already seen both words in my lessons.  I'm not sure exactly how they are used. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 22, 2019, 09:43:33 PM
Here's another larger than life entertainer I heard for the first time on  tv the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNeJ80HY8w

He's been gone for many years. I always liked his voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PTqEJz8Hmg



On a related note, according to wikipedia, Christone's cousin Charley didn't care for the racial undertones he perceived in the song. I don't see what's wrong with it.

I just looked at his wikipedia page, I don't see any reference to that. There were probably racial undertones to Screamin' Jay Hawkins' original recording, but the song has been covered many times.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 23, 2019, 08:12:42 AM
Here's were I found it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rednecks,_White_Socks_and_Blue_Ribbon_Beer
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2019, 10:03:05 AM
Here's were I found it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rednecks,_White_Socks_and_Blue_Ribbon_Beer

I completely misunderstood you.  :-[  When you called him Christone's cousin Charley, I thought you were referring to I Put A Spell On You. 

There's nothing overtly racist about the Johnny Russell song, but I can understand Charley's feelings, especially back in the 70s.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 23, 2019, 10:35:44 AM
I had no idea until I looked it up that Johnny Russell had written "Act Naturally."  He had to do something with music one day and cancelled a date.  He jokingly told his girlfriend they were going to put him in the movies and make a big star out of him.  He decided to make the lines into a song.  He couldn't get anyone interested in it.  Then, of course, Buck Owens made it into a big hit and some lads from Liverpool recorded it, too, as well as others. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on November 24, 2019, 09:57:14 AM
For Alice in Chains and Velvet Revolver fans - Grunge ain't dead - who also have a few Black Sabbath and Billy Idol albums at home:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep5NHWELz04

 I was dissappointed with this, theres nothing you can point to thats wrong, it just fails to shine

I was so looking forward to this, Ive been a massive fan of Frankie Perez since his work with the Forest Rangers on Sons of Anarchy and waiting for him to find a suitable home for his dextrous voice so when I heard about the calibre of his new band mates I was really hopeful. Lets hope they write better when they finish the Album. at this point I prefer him with Apocalyptica
 I think tho he may be one of those singers who always sounds better singing other peoples material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icgiVekqP5M&list=PL3o5sKTSdLO_2occ4JM6cVfWGbwibsQuP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClMDjU0kT0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4K7Iyx_99I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z6514D5xes




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 24, 2019, 02:13:31 PM
In my continuing quest to learn some German--despite not having much talent for it--I've recently come across this.  Without even looking it up, I'm pretty sure this title says "this summer was hot."  BTW, "Hang On Sloopy" was the first song my first band learned when I was fifteen.  This, of course, isn't the original version by the McCoys, but maybe this is just a later version.  I really don't know. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvwVAqwprs



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 24, 2019, 10:21:48 PM
^^^
That's a mashup based on this video.

https://youtu.be/3E0xJpi9rK8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 25, 2019, 03:20:52 AM
I'm udderly speechless at how bra-less this all is.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 25, 2019, 07:18:21 AM
Maybe it's because Charley thinks only white people can be rednecks? I feel bad if that's the case. All those African Americans not getting to enjoy Jeff Foxworthy is truly heart wrenching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwlny1hcUh0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
Maybe it's because Charley thinks only white people can be rednecks? I feel bad if that's the case. All those African Americans not getting to enjoy Jeff Foxworthy is truly heart wrenching.
...

I think you'd feel differently if you were a black man born in Mississippi in the 1930s.  Redneck was a term applied to a certain class of Southern whites and while not all of them were racists, the vilest racists came from this class.

Jeff Foxworthy is funny, but his humor is not what it was like back in the day. I'm old enough to remember segregation well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 25, 2019, 06:05:40 PM
I tend to laugh at Foxworthy’s outdated humor more than with it. There’s nothing funny about the injustices people went through in the Jim Crow south. In regards to Johnny  Russel, the song you posted is a pretty good indication of where his true feelings are and yes, I agree he had a fine voice indeed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHZ_w5eajA

I always liked his voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vIEnb0okA

And his voice too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
I'm outing myself as a lifelong Rick Springfield fan, the ole heartthrob ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wZ-oUlv-QQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 27, 2019, 08:29:15 AM
Rucker's country career sure has left its mark, not much Hootie left ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU-bOoBoQgM

OMG, that P Bass looks huge on her! :mrgreen: And I like both her and Joe Walsh's voice though neither of them is a "great singer" per se.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGo-k-PEcvc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 27, 2019, 08:46:48 AM
^^^
It was all sounding awkward except toward the end when Joe Walsh started playing "Walk Away."  And Sheryl Crow would definitely be better off playing something other than a P bass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 27, 2019, 08:59:35 AM
Yeah man, where's the M-85?  ;D

(https://www.bassplayer.com/.image/t_share/MTUzNjY4MjY5MzYxMDgwMDQ5/image-placeholder-title.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 27, 2019, 11:19:48 AM
Sheryl Crow would definitely be better off playing something other than a P bass.

Especially when you have an awesome bass player in the band by the name of Robert P Kearns (who in this video is the fifth guitarist)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 27, 2019, 11:55:35 AM
Especially when you have an awesome bass player in the band by the name of Robert P Kearns (who in this video is the fifth guitarist)

Notice what he says here in the section "Why Epiphone and Gibson instead of Fender?"  I also noticed he made some comments about Carl Radle and Willie Weeks influencing his style.  That can only be a good thing as far as I'm concerned. 

http://www.epiphone.com/News/Features/2015/Robert-Kearns-The-Epiphone-Interview.aspx
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 27, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
Quote
Why Epiphone and Gibson instead of Fender?
To my ear, those basses have more bottom end, more oomph.  P-style bases and Jazz basses have more of a mid-ridge tone. But when we wanted a full rock sound…for instance, in Cry of Love, we used to play loud!  I had two SVT heads and two cabinets but dropped it into one cabinet.  Once you get a Jack Casady or Les Paul Bass cranked up into one of those, it’s over (laughs)! There’s nothing that’s going to compete with that sound.

That is exactly how I feel about it.
I saw Robert Kearns perform live with Cry Of Love. He had two SVT heads plus two 8x10 fridges. And he used The Triumph aka les Paul Bass. I was/is the best bass sound I had ever heard.
It was the moment and place where I decided I needed a Les Paul Bass too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 27, 2019, 04:53:20 PM
That is exactly how I feel about it.
I saw Robert Kearns perform live with Cry Of Love. He had two SVT heads plus two 8x10 fridges. And he used The Triumph aka les Paul Bass. I was/is the best bass sound I had ever heard.
It was the moment and place where I decided I needed a Les Paul Bass too.

That's just good taste.  Something, unfortunately, which can often go against the prevailing trend. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 28, 2019, 07:13:55 PM
I had no idea that these guys - after decades apart - have reunited, I loved them in the late 80ies (I know, Billy Idol, Duran Duran, Simple Minds and U2*** all rolled into one, but still):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXnebH_muA


And they are still in great shape, I think a visit to a club gig in Belfast is in order!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nSSz1HoceU


*** whose bassist, Adam Clayton ...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 30, 2019, 03:47:48 PM
I really like this version of Centerfield. A tad higher tempo and excellent bassplaying from George Hawkins Jr (R.I.P).
(you will have to click the link since embedded playing is not set for this video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqY7e4bP9PQ&list=RDYqY7e4bP9PQ&start_radio=1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2019, 12:21:07 PM
Himmel, I'm turning all early 80ies!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIVYW977GVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KpfrJE4zw


Cracker of a live version here (as a lead guitarist he was criminally underrated):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd91WRD3-Rc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 06, 2019, 12:45:00 PM
^^^
I had a guitarist friend (who died from smoking) who also always maintained that Prince was underrated as a guitarist.  He wasn't a fan and neither am I, but Prince came up with some good music.

https://themuse.jezebel.com/an-abbreviated-guide-to-the-new-massive-prince-1999-bo-1840180898

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on December 06, 2019, 06:58:46 PM





 B.O.C.

I'll never tire of them, hadn't seen this before. I saw them at least four times, twice at Seattle's Paramont (they recorded part of "On your feet or on your knees") the second time there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAi1mIHb2FU     
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on December 07, 2019, 05:43:47 AM
^^^
I had a guitarist friend (who died from smoking) who also always maintained that Prince was underrated as a guitarist.  He wasn't a fan and neither am I, but Prince came up with some good music.

I remember sometime in the nineties guitarist magazine did a thing where they got their interviewees to list the top 5 guitarists that they rated, and Prince came top by a big margin
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2019, 06:29:29 AM
I remember sometime in the nineties guitarist magazine did a thing where they got their interviewees to list the top 5 guitarists that they rated, and Prince came top by a big margin

That was quite a long time ago when my friend told me that.  At the time, I wasn't too used to hearing someone say that.  But since then I've heard several others say the same thing.  I did take his word for it, though.  He was quite an accomplished rhythm guitarist and singer--in local terms at least. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 08, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
https://youtu.be/HrdBA2vHB4k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 08, 2019, 07:39:51 PM
https://youtu.be/bdiD_CcEIWc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 08, 2019, 10:21:46 PM
https://youtu.be/fPPCPqDINEk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 09, 2019, 07:44:22 AM
^^^

Good seasonal choice!

Unlike a certain other country at Christmas, where they have Frau Perchta and Krampus instead of Santa figures.

https://youtu.be/CiKclsiqXMw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 09, 2019, 08:27:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXH7SSZFdH4

Love these guys!!

We had tickets to Brian Setzer's Orchestra in Denver tonight, but he has a tinnitus problem and had to cancel.  Bummer.

If you ever get the chance to see them, take it. They're fantastic!!  The combination of big band and rockabilly is really fun, and I love the way he passes the solos around the orchestra.  There are very few chances to see anything like that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2019, 12:56:10 PM
They've finally remixed (not just remastered) Be Bop Deluxe's Modern Music (into which Nelson channeled his USA touring experiences) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRQFxuIeSc

I love the remix, it sounds like they pulled some shroud away, the old mix always sounded a little muffled to me. But that still exists in a fresh remaster (the above remix snippet corresponds with 0:55 of the old mix remaster here and the difference is very audible) too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=169QX92Ka0s

It's a 4 CD box plus DVD,

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/be-bop-deluxe-modern-music-4cd-1dvd-deluxe-boxset-edition/

so there are some unreleased goodies as well. Like this "official bootleg" from Chicago 1976:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4XRdYJS190

And Charlie Tumahai, the talented (and unfortunately late) Maori bassist (with a Telecaster Bass) in the group (who influenced me quite a bit if I listen to him now), was always their best dancer. Not much competition from the others though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6j6Yo4tjPM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2019, 01:22:22 PM
^^^

Good seasonal choice!

Unlike a certain other country at Christmas, where they have Frau Perchta and Krampus instead of Santa figures.

WTF? Never heard of either, I come from a good Catholic part of Germany (with early Christianization!) where we don't have your heathenish, imaginary Santa Claus (show me the part in the New Testament where he is mentioned even in passing?  :mrgreen:) creeping around, but the one and only Christkind:

(https://bergweihnacht.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/s054-2.jpg)

Never mind how I could never figure out as a kid whether the Christkind was boy, girl, neuter or transgender, Jesus in young or an angel. That is why it's called Glauben and not Wissen ...

There is a boundary through Germany: South (mostly Catholic) is Christkind, North (mostly Protestant) is Weihnachtsmann, an (Lutheran-Protestant?) approximation of your Santa Claus, who - alas! - has been gaining ground over the decades.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 10, 2019, 03:07:42 PM

WTF? Never heard of either, I come from a good Catholic part of Germany (with early Christianization!) where we don't have your heathenish, imaginary Santa Claus (show me the part in the New Testament where he is mentioned even in passing?  :mrgreen:) creeping around, but the one and only Christkind:

(https://bergweihnacht.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/s054-2.jpg)

Never mind how I could never figure out as a kid whether the Christkind was boy, girl, neuter or transgender, Jesus in young or an angel. That is why it's called Glauben and not Wissen ...

There is a boundary through Germany: South (mostly Catholic) is Christkind, North (mostly Protestant) is Weihnachtsmann, an (Lutheran-Protestant?) approximation of your Santa Claus, who - alas! - has been gaining ground over the decades.

Frau Perchta, Terrifying Christmas Witch (https://boroughsofthedead.com/frau-perchta/)

Note, she's from southern Germany.

Besides, if you can't trust Flula, who can you trust? He's a star!  :mrgreen: At the end of this video, he inadvertently proves that the metric system is no good for music.  :P

https://youtu.be/XrQPu9j5n3E

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2019, 10:25:52 AM
I get it, she's part of Alemannic folklore then, that region called "Dreiländereck" (three country corner) where Germany, Switzerland and Austria meet. They have all kinds of strange rites there - Christianization was only fleeting there.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 11, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
I like my pagan-origin-retreaded holidays just fine, thanks!   :mrgreen: 8)
 
And a Merry Pagan-Derived-Event to you!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 12, 2019, 08:43:05 AM
And a Merry Pagan-Derived-Event to you!

I'm stealing this!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2019, 09:26:51 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 14, 2019, 05:06:28 PM
Charlie Rich was born 87 years ago today. Covering Jimmy Reed here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmj9LWoEWzI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2019, 12:09:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTtzFjJm2E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2019, 03:33:57 AM
I never knew the Allmans covered this!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2019, 08:27:01 AM
I never knew the Allmans covered this!

I didn't either until I unexpectedly came across it last night. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2019, 09:28:32 AM
I was really surprised by this, well-crafted power pop Yank hard rock with some proggy flourishes, actually better than most of their 70ies work, I did not expect much from their recent reunion at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbWABtlIShU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-fF5htKPU

Of course it's late 70ies AOR, but you wouldn't want or expect anything else from Angel, would you? Dimino sounds fine on that record, a bit like as if Don Dokken could sing.  ;)

They all look like Elvis in Las Vegas nowadays.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 17, 2019, 09:54:08 AM
Rick

https://youtu.be/q6QxPkXzEQ4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 17, 2019, 09:59:04 AM
My kid's outgrowing clothes fast. Made me think of this Rick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMm0iAc-CFg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2019, 12:12:17 PM
Rick

https://youtu.be/q6QxPkXzEQ4

I only recently realized that Robertson wrote nearly all the songs, but never sang them himself, but let the others do it. He only began singing lead after he left The Band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
My kid's outgrowing clothes fast. Made me think of this Rick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMm0iAc-CFg

Say what you will about the late Rick James, but he was a "disco act" that won over a all-white dyed(bleached?)-in-the-wool hard rock audience during the German Rockpalast series. I saw it myself at the time. One look in the audience and you can tell that these were not people with Rick James 10" dance mixes on their turntables at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlqIfPQuTFY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on December 17, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
In preparation for seeing them this weekend I've been caning these guys, one of the few bands that I feel successfully mix guitars  and House music

They're my Missus' favourite band and I bought her tickets for her Birthday back in May for them doing one of those  "First Album in its Entirety" tours

   Since then its all got a bit bittersweet as Jake aka "The Reverend Dwayne Love", founder member, MC and main songwriter passed away a few days after the tickets arrived. I knew Jake reasonably well, having toured with him twice when he was guest singer with SAHB so its going to be a little sad seeing the band without him, although by reports they have turned the show into a celebration of Jake and his work. The gig is the last on the mini tour, and is in Brixton where they got together. There is no news yet whether they intend to keep going without Jake so this may be a very triumphant farewell show so I am really happy that I happened to get tickets to what is probably going to be a very special night   
   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcWDZPxpZ-w&list=RDrcWDZPxpZ-w&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3edGUEBL3Tg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hhzAgAzSr4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2019, 11:56:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxjVA2yGRP0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 18, 2019, 07:46:31 AM
Wot? A Yank listening to Status Quo?!  :o

How I hate you for messing with my preconceptions. Truly hate you!!!  :mrgreen:

If I may give a recommendation (or two i.e. three): The pinnacle of Quo's work are three mid-seventies albums:

Quo (the heaviest one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWedyugALz4

On The Level (the catchiest one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U77Yfm2ZCx4

Blue For You (the fastest one!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUtGf35Pz6o

Alan Lancaster's bass playing is lovely here.

The band is on record for a lot of the Ramones-type frenzy & energy on those recordings being down to their mounting cocaine consumption (the era of Blue For You being the - sniff - high point), but it at least served a good purpose.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 18, 2019, 07:55:11 AM
And to give our Dutch constituency - you know how they tend to nag about little things like switched off radios and one or two lost bikes - their dam due: "In The Army Now" was initially an early 80ies disco synth pop hit written by the Dutch Bolland Brothers - Quo heard it in a disco and thought they could do something with it. Even though a life-long Quo fan, I continue to think that the Bolland & Bolland original carries more emotional clout and army grunt melancholy. Quo aren't really the band to carry socially aware lyrics convincingly, they're better at giving - if somewhat confusingly muddled - instructions: "Roll over, lay down and let me in ...".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfT3vdZZ17I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 18, 2019, 08:27:03 AM
Since Golden Earring has been one of my favorite bands for years, it's probably not surprising I would be interested in something that was originally Dutch.  Both the Bolland brothers and Status Quo versions of the song are very good.  The Status Quo version was a You Tube recommendation.  I ended up going through various live and video versions and liked them all.  I'm now definitely in a mood to listen to all that other Status Quo stuff I don't know much about.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on December 19, 2019, 11:30:18 AM
Andy Rehfeldt is always good for a laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8hjW7FqKE

Thats Brilliant, just brilliant
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 19, 2019, 11:43:18 AM
Wonderful - and goes to show what a great singer Dio was and how that dragon metal stuff limited him and his audience unnecessarily.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 19, 2019, 12:42:01 PM
I was really surprised by this, well-crafted power pop Yank hard rock with some proggy flourishes, actually better than most of their 70ies work, I did not expect much from their recent reunion at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbWABtlIShU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-fF5htKPU

Of course it's late 70ies AOR, but you wouldn't want or expect anything else from Angel, would you? Dimino sounds fine on that record, a bit like as if Don Dokken could sing.  ;)

They all look like Elvis in Las Vegas nowadays.  :mrgreen:

New Angel? Does Terry Bozzio know about this? Punky better watch his back lol  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2019, 06:01:56 AM
With one song title, Uncle Frank single-handedly ruined a promising career!  He's to blame for Angel not making it. :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28cS4YGJHJk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 23, 2019, 08:53:29 AM
I was really surprised by this, well-crafted power pop Yank hard rock with some proggy flourishes, actually better than most of their 70ies work, I did not expect much from their recent reunion at all:

Of course it's late 70ies AOR, but you wouldn't want or expect anything else from Angel, would you? Dimino sounds fine on that record, a bit like as if Don Dokken could sing.  ;)

They all look like Elvis in Las Vegas nowadays.  :mrgreen:

New Angel is better than expected. I saw them a few months ago with Starz and both bands were totally on it. Honestly, everyone was having fun on stage and there was an all around good feeling in the room. Punky played with lots of skill and passion. I could actually hear the Jeff Beck influence. (I think they did part of Freeway Jam)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=96&v=Wx8hjW7FqKE&feature=emb_logo
Thats Brilliant, just brilliant

I actually enjoyed that!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 25, 2019, 09:44:27 PM
This popped up in my YT suggestions, no idea why, no idea who they are, but they have over 100k subscribers. Interesting cover.

https://youtu.be/bUkiseExmHw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on December 27, 2019, 07:31:27 AM
This popped up in my YT suggestions, no idea why, no idea who they are, but they have over 100k subscribers. Interesting cover.

https://youtu.be/bUkiseExmHw

I like that
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on December 30, 2019, 12:21:45 AM
I got way into a band called Cracker in the mid 90s (discovered Counting Crows as well when they opened for Cracker at the Troubadour in LA after their first albums were released). One of the things I loved about them was the guitarist, Richard Greco, er, Johnny Hickman. I recently discovered a side project of his that somehow slipped past me, and I've been listening non stop ever since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwAaXl1imRo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcM8oIEO04
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: nofi on January 01, 2020, 01:17:50 PM
uwe, i saw rory gallagher open for your beloved quo somewhere back in the mid seventies. your team should have stayed in the locker room. :mrgreen: have not been around here in awhile but i want to thank you again for being such a kind host to my stepsons when they were in germany a few years back.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 01, 2020, 10:44:27 PM
https://youtu.be/OtR7v643B60
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 02, 2020, 08:24:14 AM
Would have been nice if they could have shown that NR more. This is a good look at Leroy Troy playing washtub bass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB4Bd_yZpb0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 07, 2020, 08:46:41 AM
uwe, i saw rory gallagher open for your beloved quo somewhere back in the mid seventies. your team should have stayed in the locker room. :mrgreen: have not been around here in awhile but i want to thank you again for being such a kind host to my stepsons when they were in germany a few years back.

Pleasure! Gallagher on a good night was near impossible to beat. His unpretentious working man image, the raw singing and the equally raw, but very gifted guitar playing were a great package. I miss him.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 07, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
Always lovely and immaculate in its glorious boneheadedness, as if The Cult attempted Nutbush City Limits:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVB1f0f5vE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 07, 2020, 09:46:46 PM
I'm usually not much for fusion, if that's what this is, but somebody played this for me today ... if you can make it till about 5 or 6 minutes in when the keyboard solo and the drums really start to cook... this thing gets INSANE.  Watch the joy on their faces... the keyboardist who isn't solo is just in disbelief of the soloist... it's really fun to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 08, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
Snarky Puppy are pretty "big" in the prog scene. Not entirely my thing, but they are REALLY good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2020, 08:19:33 AM
I have zillions of CDs, but never had one of Tony Joe White until very recently. Embarrassing,  I know.  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUVeuwuurU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 08, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
Daltry's voice is remarkable!  Still on top of it.

And they're getting prophetic, as usual - everything fades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKhGNaiS6c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2020, 03:29:29 PM
I'm usually not much for fusion, if that's what this is, but somebody played this for me today ... if you can make it till about 5 or 6 minutes in when the keyboard solo and the drums really start to cook... this thing gets INSANE.  Watch the joy on their faces... the keyboardist who isn't solo is just in disbelief of the soloist... it's really fun to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc

I really like it! Not too demanding a listen for my ears. It has structure.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 08, 2020, 04:46:43 PM
I talked to Snarky Puppy's bassist years ago.  He was as friendly as he is talented.  Since that time they've won several Grammys.  However, I've got to say that that kind of music is not really something I listen to very much. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 09, 2020, 08:15:52 AM
I talked to Snarky Puppy's bassist years ago.  He was as friendly as he is talented.  Since that time they've won several Grammys.

Really! I had no idea, good for them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 09, 2020, 08:50:20 AM
Daltry's voice is remarkable!  Still on top of it.

And they're getting prophetic, as usual - everything fades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKhGNaiS6c

Yeah I'm digging the new singles. I gotta get the album!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 09, 2020, 09:00:54 AM
I'll see them in March when they play Denver.  Looking forward to it!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 09, 2020, 12:36:23 PM
Really! I had no idea, good for them.

Three Grammys I think. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 09, 2020, 03:31:39 PM
Remember our talented Italian Signorinas from Black Mamba?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md19pon3B9o

Someone took their copy of Machine Head away and replaced it with a Red Hot Chilli Peppers album, maledetto!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY8zPm-ncW4

No, no, it's ok, youth has to progress.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 09, 2020, 05:03:29 PM
Italy may not be perfect.  But no one is.  It's just my opinion, but I think Italians can rock harder than a number of other nationalities I could name.  Rock on, Italy.   8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 10, 2020, 05:06:18 AM
But I never said a bad word about our Axis Allies! There's a saying in Germany according to which "Germans love Italians, but they don't respect them. With the Italians it's the other way around."  :mrgreen:

But all my favorite Italian songs are somehow non-rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckWLcTrKzaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv3wl1uadXI

Most people here will know this from Laura Branigan, but he wrote it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z87O_fxaPXo

Now where's my assless chaps? Eric Adams ain't Luciano Pavarotti, but he does more than alright here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircG7aKAgo8

All of Middle of the Road's early 70ies bubble gum hits (I have a soft spot for) were penned by an Italian songwriter team who had discovered the Scottish outfit on an Italian cruise liner as a Top 40 ballroom covers band (and obviously heard something):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW8574GA06A







Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 10, 2020, 08:26:51 AM
Daltry's voice is remarkable!  Still on top of it.

And they're getting prophetic, as usual - everything fades

Streamed a couple of songs yesterday. It's really quite good!

Remember our talented Italian Signorinas from Black Mamba?

I just saw the bass player Cecilia Nappo back in October with Goblin here in Chicago, playing her ruby red Ric. She can play, AND she looks good in fishnets.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 10, 2020, 08:49:11 AM
"She looks good in fishnets."

That's what I like about this place, only sheer unadulterated musicality counts and nothing else.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UpWr7LCthlM/SGwAWGzvewI/AAAAAAAAAos/qJQY2q0z5jM/s400/stockings.jpg)

I don't know what Daltrey has done, but he sounds better on recent recordings (the orchestral Tommy released by him with Pete's son on guitar, the new Who album) than he has for a long time. That last live album of The Who

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61d0sNNsdeL.jpg)

was nothing to write home about, Daltrey was struggling. He got away with it on the Wilko Johnson collaboration from a few years ago because he switched to baritone singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeoKCJNI-k4

The songwriting on the new Who CD is good too, Pete has regained some fire and inspiration.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 10, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
Remember our talented Italian Signorinas from Black Mamba?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md19pon3B9o


My desktop sound system has strong bass - this blew me away.  She may look great in fishnets, but DAMN, she can play!! Excellent!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 10, 2020, 11:22:41 AM
But I never said a bad word about our Axis Allies! There's a saying in Germany according to which "Germans love Italians, but they don't respect them. With the Italians it's the other way around."  :mrgreen:

But all my favorite Italian songs are somehow non-rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckWLcTrKzaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv3wl1uadXI

Most people here will know this from Laura Branigan, but he wrote it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z87O_fxaPXo

Now where's my assless chaps? Eric Adams ain't Luciano Pavarotti, but he does more than alright here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircG7aKAgo8

All of Middle of the Road's early 70ies bubble gum hits (I have a soft spot for) were penned by an Italian songwriter team who had discovered the Scottish outfit on an Italian cruise liner as a Top 40 ballroom covers band (and obviously heard something):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW8574GA06A

I had been watching some rock videos of a singer from a country which will go unnamed.  Because I'd rather not say anything negative about it.  What I will say is that I actually know a lot about it.  I've studied it a lot.  Years ago I knew some people from there pretty well.  For a while, I was even beginning to get somewhat of a grasp on the language.  Long story short.  The singer from Country X was really good.  But once I started listening to her band, it became evident that they weren't so good.  It was a case of people having some talent, but not able to get cohesion or any kind of groove.  I began to realize that it was actually difficult to find any good rock music from that country.  For the record, it is now just as hard to find good rock music in my own country.  BTW, the unnamed country I mentioned is not European. 

What happened is by coincidence I began getting You Tube suggestions from Italy.  I've always liked Lacuna Coil.  But these were rock bands I had never even heard of.  Still, they were pretty good.  It began to help give me a greater appreciation of Italian rock, even if that may not be their most recognized genre. 

I had never heard of that saying about Italy and Germany.  However, that fits in with what I know, even if World War II is not my specialty.  If I have a specialty at all, it would be the American Civil War. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 10, 2020, 11:49:56 AM
"If I have a specialty at all, it would be the American Civil War."

For once, we had nothing to do with that one!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 10, 2020, 12:15:42 PM
"If I have a specialty at all, it would be the American Civil War."

For once, we had nothing to do with that one!

Neither you nor any other country had very much to do with that one.   :sad:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on January 10, 2020, 12:43:26 PM
it was probably our fault somewhere along the line (brits)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 10, 2020, 12:47:39 PM
Yeah, you never stick around for long and see what happened/happens!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 11, 2020, 12:15:42 PM
it was probably our fault somewhere along the line (brits)

I thought it was traditional to blame the French...?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 11, 2020, 06:33:23 PM
This popped up in my YT suggestions today. It's from 2000.

https://youtu.be/21DX4zTL2AY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 13, 2020, 12:03:18 PM
I didn't have enough money/monthly allowance to buy this when it came out in 1977 though I always wanted to (it was on some wrinkled paper list I always carried with me in my wallet, by now I have actually all those back then unbought albums on CD  :)). By the time I could afford it, it was already deleted.  ;D Never came out on CD - except some demos a few years ago. But now the album has seen a CD release on some tiny label and I finally get to hear it. Surprise, surprise, it would have made a good Alice Cooper Group album, they sure didn't try to hide who they were.  :mrgreen:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgHhnvQSN0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on January 14, 2020, 02:00:10 AM
I didn't have enough money/monthly allowance to buy this when it came out in 1977 though I always wanted to (it was on some wrinkled paper list I always carried with me in my wallet, by now I have actually all those back then unbought albums on CD  :)). By the time I could afford it, it was already deleted.  ;D Never came out on CD - except some demos a few years ago. But now the album has seen a CD release on some tiny label and I finally get to hear it. Surprise, surprise, it would have made a good Alice Cooper Group album, they sure didn't try to hide who they were.  :mrgreen:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgHhnvQSN0

I have this one on vinyl. Trade it for your EB-6  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2020, 08:27:38 AM
Aerosmith have a new bassist looking much like Flea, a guitarist from The Yardbirds and Carly Simon is now doing the singing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEdl0-T3pCk

Seeing Herr Sumner in a hard rock setting playing synchronized riffs sure is something different.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 14, 2020, 08:55:49 AM
Ha ha, Carly looks great. I don't understand why Sting insists on playing his bass like Earl Scruggs plays a banjo. Has he forgotten how to use a pick? This would be an instance that would merit using one you'd think.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 14, 2020, 09:53:29 AM
Aerosmith have a new bassist looking much like Flea, a guitarist from The Yardbirds and Carly Simon is now doing the singing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEdl0-T3pCk

Seeing Herr Sumner in a hard rock setting playing synchronized riffs sure is something different.  :)

That was cool. Couple of my favorites up there (Beck and Sumner). Both playing with their thumbs.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 14, 2020, 10:55:01 AM
Ha ha, Carly looks great. I don't understand why Sting insists on playing his bass like Earl Scruggs plays a banjo. Has he forgotten how to use a pick? This would be an instance that would merit using one you'd think.

I have a friend who prides himself on using that technique that Sting uses--whatever it's called.  He isn't a Sting fan, but just likes playing that way.  Also, he is probably more against playing with a pick than anyone I've seen.  Like me, though, Jack Bruce is his main hero.  But I use a pick in spite of Jack.  BTW, I don't know why Sting stopped using a pick. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 14, 2020, 02:31:18 PM
Hasn't Sting always used his thumb on some songs?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 14, 2020, 04:38:43 PM
I can't speak to when he started, but I'm pretty sure it was all thumb and finger when I saw them on the reunion tour (Halloween 2007). He sounded GREAT.

Apparently it started with interest in classical guitar and lute.
He's still no anti-pick snob though.
https://www.guitarworld.com/features/sting-the-secrets-of-steering-a-band-from-the-low-end

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2020, 07:29:18 AM
I remember Sting all pick'ish in the (very) Police early days, but already by Zenyatta Mondatta (3rd album) he was dabbling with uprights and electric fretless live (to Copeland's eternal chagrin) and using fingers with them.

I also remember that he mentioned in an interview that Jack Bruce and he realized at a certain point that their plucking techniques are similar, but that they had both been unaware of each others respective right hand style.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 15, 2020, 07:51:38 AM
I think the Aerosmith song Tal Wilkenfeld corrected him on must have been this version of Sweet Emotion Uwe posted. The intro worked but was different from the regular version. Probably would have been easier with a pick too. He did switch to normal fingerstyle on the outro. That thumb plucking he uses looks like it would give you a cramp after a while especially on fast parts like this song has. I bet he was feeling it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
He doesn't play it at all like Tom Hamilton does who chords the riff with a pick and open strings, Sting's version is an approximation that wouldn't get him a job in any self-respecting Aerosmith tribute band, but he does play it like you would imagine Sting playing it. I like that, he puts his own stamp on it.

That interview with him is great, thanks for posting. I can relate to a lot what he says. Some of Stings solo music is "too adult" for me (I'm turning 60 this year, immaturity can last forever!  :mrgreen: ), that comes from his singing, but I've never had issues with his bass playing. When people said that he is not such a great bass player in the later days of Police, I marveled at their ignorance, did they ever really listen? I thought his bass playing was always witty.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2020, 10:26:32 AM
Look no further when it comes to "one two-note-riff throughout"-minimalism, always loved that song, it was like something the MC5 could have done. Not very typical for Dr Hook, but they were a more versatile band than people give them credit for. Great lyric too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u083ZxHTs10
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2020, 10:49:46 AM
Since we were talking about minimalism ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AMMb9CiScI


Those lyrics ... sheer bloody art.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 15, 2020, 12:20:15 PM
He doesn't play it at all like Tom Hamilton does who chords the riff with a pick and open strings, Sting's version is an approximation that wouldn't get him a job in any self-respecting Aerosmith tribute band, but he does play it like you would imagine Sting playing it. I like that, he puts his own stamp on it.

That interview with him is great, thanks for posting. I can relate to a lot what he says. Some of Stings solo music is "too adult" for me (I'm turning 60 this year, immaturity can last forever!  :mrgreen: ), that comes from his singing, but I've never had issues with his bass playing. When people said that he is not such a great bass player in the later days of Police, I marveled at their ignorance, did they ever really listen? I thought his bass playing was always witty.

If Sting was not such a great bass player, somebody should have told that to Stuart Clayton when he wrote his "Giants of Bass" book.  I remember the section on Sting as being pretty enjoyable.  However, I've lost a CD to this and that greatly reduces its usefulness to me.  The edition I have does seem at times like it has been a little rushed and maybe even improvised.  But it would be my guess that this new edtion corrects those faults. 


https://bassmusicianmagazine.com/2017/09/bass-books-giants-of-bass-vol-1-2/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on January 16, 2020, 12:34:56 AM


 Some of Stings solo music is "too adult" for me (I'm turning 60 this year, immaturity can last forever!

someone once told me if you can make it to 50 without growing up then you don't have to!

I have one month to go
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 16, 2020, 10:04:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohVf8n3TnEI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 23, 2020, 08:37:45 AM
This is not predicted to be my best day. I'm going in this PM for oral surgery - a couple of bone grafts to prevent losing a couple of teeth. I'm not looking forward to it one...tiny...bit. Nor to the recovery..

Seems like about the time I retired, my body started playing tricks on me between teeth, feet and back. Nothing major or disabling, just stuff I never thought would really be "my problem." I'm sure I'm not alone in this, as I know there are others in my age group here.

The first music that popped into my head when contemplating this was the Vanilla Fudge doing "You Just Keep Me Hanging On."  Seems like that's what happens once you start feeling twinges that weren't there before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cft60HYb7Fs

Just finished watching this cut, which seems to go on forever.  It's kind of a period piece with the costumes and effects.
 It's long, it's a little self-important, and it's a nice example of psychedelic 60's rock. I just hope the recovery doesn't go on forever....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 23, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
Ouch - but it has to be done. Keeping your teeth makes sense. No doubt you and they will be ... safe ...

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m88s5zkIAg1ro2c2ro2_r1_250.gifv)

I have a soft spot for the Fudgies, they basically invented the organ-drenched heavy sound - no Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Argent and countless other bands like Kautrockers Birth Control or Frumpy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7tDhS3Hlao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDUQN0Chl-M

with a loud B3 organ without them. That sound is still the epitome of heavy music to me, there is something majestic about an overly loud Hammond, I can't help it, maybe it's a Teutonic thing, you know Bach and all that!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPR7tt4du0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9OFZ9Mh7GA

I've been playing in a glorified Stones tribute for a while (something I always hoped to avoid - a tribute of any kind, yet here I am, in the sunset of my musical career ....), but the most redeeming factor (aside that they are all excellent musicians and good friends) is the quality of our organ/piano/synth player and the dominant role he plays (with my wholehearted support). With all other Stones cover bands, the keyboards (just like with the Stones themselves) are an add-on embellishing the music, with us (and we have two guitarists doing the Keith/Ron thing) the keyboards are pivotal - to the point where we sometimes crack the joke that we should call us "Rolling Purple" or "Deep Stones".  ;D I just love it when Dirk unleashes that Hammond sound, be it as a solo or as a backing rhythm/harmony instrument.

Back to the Fudgies' epochal Supremes cover, a carbon copy of it was done many years later by NWOBHM outfit Nightwing - by that time "You Keep Me Hanging On" was more associated with Vanilla Fudge than with The Supremes, which I guess is the ultimate accolade for a cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciSsJrgun-s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2020, 03:19:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIDt6hmd2UA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Herr Powell, I know you probably can't speak right now, but you sure can type! Are you alive?  :-\

Do write us in your druggy stupor please!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 24, 2020, 01:51:14 PM
Herr Powell, I know you probably can't speak right now, but you sure can type! Are you alive?  :-\

Do write us in your druggy stupor please!

Danke bitte for your thoughts.

After two hours of the Herr Doktor whittling on my jaw, I emerged yesterday with a couple of new bone grafts (donated by an unnamed cadaver, but I guess now we're close personal friends...) and functioning with doses of 800 MG Ibuprofen.  I also got a scrip for Oxydodone, but I hate that stuff.  The semi-detached feeling it creates is something I really dislike, and I don't expect to use it. Therefore, I'm minimally stuporific, if very low-key.

Things are better than I feared. I just feel like I have a congestion headache and a sore throat, both caused by swelling from the work on my lower jaw. I am exploring the relative virtues of yogurt, pudding, and small refried bean & cheese burritos made with nice soft tortillas. Icewater and other cold drinks are also on the menu, and I have clearance for the occasional beer as needed. Recuperation proceeds apace.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2020, 03:36:51 PM
Danke bitte for your thoughts.

After two hours of the Herr Doktor whittling on my jaw, I emerged yesterday with a couple of new bone grafts (donated by an unnamed cadaver, but I guess now we're close personal friends...) and functioning with doses of 800 MG Ibuprofen.  I also got a scrip for Oxydodone, but I hate that stuff.  The semi-detached feeling it creates is something I really dislike, and I don't expect to use it. Therefore, I'm minimally stuporific, if very low-key.

Things are better than I feared. I just feel like I have a congestion headache and a sore throat, both caused by swelling from the work on my lower jaw. I am exploring the relative virtues of yogurt, pudding, and small refried bean & cheese burritos made with nice soft tortillas. Icewater and other cold drinks are also on the menu, and I have clearance for the occasional beer as needed. Recuperation proceeds apace.


I've had way more done to my teeth than most people.  But I've not come close having anything like that done.  I had thought about commenting earlier.  But I'm glad now I didn't.  I might have come across as kind of clueless.  That sounds like an ordeal, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 24, 2020, 07:14:48 PM
Wishing you a speedy recovery as well sir.
Playing some Stones with a happening organist sounds like a blast. Got any clips Uwe?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 24, 2020, 10:30:07 PM
Al, I missed what you wrote about your upcoming oral surgery until just now, been under the weather this week. It sounds like things went as well as expected and that you're not in too much pain. Best wishes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 25, 2020, 11:08:49 AM
Al, I missed what you wrote about your upcoming oral surgery until just now, been under the weather this week. It sounds like things went as well as expected and that you're not in too much pain. Best wishes.

That sums it up pretty accurately. I'm fortunate, not much pain and the Ibuprofen is handling it.  Just staying a bit hungry because I'm on a very soft food diet.  Being very careful indeed about the surgical areas, which isn't easy because they got both sides of my mouth at the rear molars.

Last night JoAnn made meat loaf and mashed potatoes...absolute heaven!!

My thanks to all for their kind thoughts and comments.   :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 26, 2020, 04:46:32 AM
Found out about this band the other day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99of7LhK_RI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 28, 2020, 09:07:35 AM
From the land of windmills - Golden Caves. I like these kids. I've watched some live clips, and the (female) singer is pretty captivating. They also have a female keyboarder who does some good harmony vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLSRnodOGo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on January 29, 2020, 04:17:19 AM
From the land of windmills - Golden Caves. I like these kids. I've watched some live clips, and the (female) singer is pretty captivating. They also have a female keyboarder who does some good harmony vocals.

Not the music I am drawn to by nature, but sounds rather good and really nice and good singer!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2020, 09:54:11 PM
It's an Emmylou night.

https://youtu.be/UdLWu6_Wlwk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2020, 05:30:37 AM
Currently catching up with her - somehow she always escaped me (her rhythm section ended up with Status Quo in the mid 80ies), I didn't even know how her last name was pronounced (it's "Zooke", like in juke box), her voice is reminiscent of Christine McVie's, but more powerful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOO163HrbWg

Her 15 minutes of (largely English) fame were in the late 70ies/early 80ies, voice of Christine/hair of Stevie (Nicks)!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCda0GkJlw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 30, 2020, 10:29:21 AM
This was last evening: The Poison Squad.

It's a documentary from PBS about the incredible situation with foods before the turn of the 20th century and how the first food protection and purity laws came about. Chalk dust and formaldehyde in your milk? You betcha!  (And there's a mention of food purity laws in other countries, including the famous beer purity laws in Germany.)

Memorable. Disturbing. Definitely worth watching!

https://www.pbs.org/video/the-poison-squad-5sf93j/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2020, 10:26:55 AM
Not watchable in Germany due to rights restrictions!

Or perhaps because we still eat all this stuff.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 31, 2020, 01:55:32 PM
Not watchable in Germany due to rights restrictions!

Or perhaps because we still eat all this stuff.  :mrgreen:

Actually, Germany was ahead of the US, especially when it comes to beer. That means they had their priorities right.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
Come on, the Reinheitsgebot for beer was simply meant to seal off and protect the German beer market!  :mrgreen:

I have no issues with beer made from, say, rice. It's refreshing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 31, 2020, 11:51:23 PM
Actually, Germany was ahead of the US, especially when it comes to beer. That means they had their priorities right.

Isn't that the case with many things? Europe has been around for a few millennia...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 01, 2020, 09:51:24 AM
Looks like Dusty's bass has a lipstick pickup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h50eAv9tjvA

Lots of Zappa to check out on the Hot Rats master takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPd2PMgKb-g&list=PLfYZYafMydWhKCoJgCpjGf4US3OOF8quB



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 01, 2020, 10:20:34 AM
There's a Hot Rats playlist with 67 tracks if you look for it. Here's Max Bennett getting his groove on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLA9giAuSM&list=OLAK5uy_lyjjRzuEu08vz5c-zy78wBC0NpZl0LaHE&index=33
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 01, 2020, 08:36:42 PM
I really like the lyrics to this, although the song wasn't written by Willie Nelson or Billy Joe Shaver--the two people who have recorded the song.  But it fits them anyway.  Anything that cuts down fake country music from Nashville is fine with me. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW3lYmEvFJU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 02, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
This appeared on a blog I read daily.

Her name is Anne Reburn. Interesting. And easy on the eyes.

https://youtu.be/j5O4_LD0tnA


Another selection from her YT channel.

https://youtu.be/70j1XhvkMzI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 03, 2020, 08:38:02 AM
There's a Hot Rats playlist with 67 tracks if you look for it. Here's Max Bennett getting his groove on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLA9giAuSM&list=OLAK5uy_lyjjRzuEu08vz5c-zy78wBC0NpZl0LaHE&index=33

That's some great, old school bass playing!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 03, 2020, 08:56:13 PM
February 3rd and I'm listening to Buddy Holly.

https://youtu.be/J5JnOI4-FEQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 04, 2020, 09:33:02 AM
After hearing about Huey Lewis' hearing disorder, I was immediately moved to revisit his music.  I just love his music and sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnVGlNmUN20

This is a great video. Note shots of Elvis, Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly, historic footage and nice Telebass shot....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JVlpm0eRs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2020, 11:29:28 AM
A lovely little tune, no idea why it crossed my mind today. I just like songs based on a sound knowledge of North American geography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0aRVlWEuo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2020, 11:43:58 AM
This appeared on a blog I read daily.

Her name is Anne Reburn. Interesting. And easy on the eyes.

https://youtu.be/70j1XhvkMzI

It's never a cause for celebration when grown men succumb to teenage influencers on YT - with a two finger guitar/bass technique and lots of cute nose wrinkling.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/TFFbSyuXSvb1e/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112b20d0d9d69dee923977acb6760ae85f35312633&rid=giphy.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxMpCKzReIA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2020, 12:31:39 PM
She looks like a Teddy Boy Bride (not exactly a look I dig, but I guess it's an image), yet the music has substance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbPZSM8R-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0lEMiYmWWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4MP8gd1j48

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amiBTezWKqQ

Live on the rooftop of Rutle Corps, January 30, 1969. As featured in the film "Let It Rot."  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qf8y7v0WIE

So nice to see the real thing instead of that tribute act, "The Beatles" ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKezWLZqRik&feature=emb_rel_pause

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS73iuwxA7M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 04, 2020, 01:58:02 PM
George Harrison loved the Rutles.  Here is a video directed by Eric Idle. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKjMpP4-gg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 04, 2020, 02:38:45 PM
Here's some hot licks from an unexpected source...the lowly recorder!  This is pretty remarkable.

https://youtu.be/hggISFswKcw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 04, 2020, 04:07:55 PM
It's never a cause for celebration when grown men succumb to teenage influencers on YT - with a two finger guitar/bass technique and lots of cute nose wrinkling.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/TFFbSyuXSvb1e/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112b20d0d9d69dee923977acb6760ae85f35312633&rid=giphy.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxMpCKzReIA


1. She's 26. Is that jailbait in Germany?

2. I love cute nose wrinkling.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 04, 2020, 05:02:17 PM
I sometimes listen to Larkin Poe.  They're 28 and 29.  They've gone through many stages and have played for years.  They started out as a bluegrass band with their older sister who quit to get married, etc. 

I've known about them for two years or so.  But I looked up some older videos.  In their early days, they were transitioning.  But they had a bassist that reminded me of Berry Oakley.  Back then they were just playing small gigs mostly wherever they could find them.  I think they were naturally developing their own style.  I think I would have liked being at one of those earlier gigs if I could have had a choice of gigs to go to.  Here are some songs from their latest album which was nominated for a Grammy, but lost out to Gary Clark Jr. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vf0Zk_anGg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r1vuFZvjYM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 04, 2020, 05:03:37 PM
Looks like Dusty's bass has a lipstick pickup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h50eAv9tjvA

Lots of Zappa to check out on the Hot Rats master takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPd2PMgKb-g&list=PLfYZYafMydWhKCoJgCpjGf4US3OOF8quB

I would be interested in knowing what kind of pickup that is on Dusty's bass, but I guess no one knows. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2020, 05:37:44 AM

1. She's 26. Is that jailbait in Germany?

2. I love cute nose wrinkling.

1. With a man your age, yes! Any age, really.   8)

2. High marks for honesty und unflinching self-realization!  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2020, 07:51:27 AM
Handsome Dick has a new album out. Of course, as a Kraut, I'm attracted to Dictators, Jewish ones especially.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCaT0Dxq9Mw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rWCRyAVls

I love his "hit and miss"-approach to singing.

Alas, I feel a surge of Dictators nostalgia mounting in me, Manifest Destiny was a pivotal album of my youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6UoYLDreQE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2020, 08:11:57 AM
Listening to the new (and finally first) Kim Gordon solo CD right now - to give the truth credit, it was Herr Westheimer who made me aware of her in these hallowed halls here, back in the day when cute nose wrinkling wasn't as high on his musical agenda!  :P :-* She seems to like reptiles too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paKCImP-IOk

It's not all noise rock either, in case you were wondering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eT9O62dEBU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on February 05, 2020, 11:31:15 AM
Lonny Mack and Sonny Moorman. Homegrown blues...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 05, 2020, 05:01:48 PM
1. With a man your age, yes! Any age, really.   8)

2. High marks for honesty und unflinching self-realization!  ;)


She's cute. That doesn't mean I want a relationship with her.  :P

A FB friend posted this, from Rutland Weekend Television. I don't remember seeing it before.

https://youtu.be/zJFLiW10ZrE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 05, 2020, 06:23:29 PM
George Harrison could be as much of a clown as John Lennon, or maybe more so. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Bargeon on February 05, 2020, 06:35:19 PM
. . .
Lots of Zappa to check out on the Hot Rats master takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPd2PMgKb-g&list=PLfYZYafMydWhKCoJgCpjGf4US3OOF8quB



That reissue looks intriguing. Thanks

FZ reused that piano line on Little House I Used to Live In

https://youtu.be/XduaWFznN5s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 05, 2020, 06:57:35 PM
From Nashville, believe it or not. Pretty good, IMO. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCE5IBRdaXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gJqNMZPM_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmEkeRQw3MM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on February 06, 2020, 12:30:34 AM

2. I love cute nose wrinkling.

There's a cure for that : Spice Girls The Movie. If that does not help, nothing will!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on February 06, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Handsome Dick has a new album out. Of course, as a Kraut, I'm attracted to Dictators, Jewish ones especially.

Alas, I feel a surge of Dictators nostalgia mounting in me, Manifest Destiny was a pivotal album of my youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6UoYLDreQE

Ooh, and a Grabber too. Much more tasty playing than his later output. (that's Mark on bass right?)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 06, 2020, 01:10:26 AM
There's a cure for that : Spice Girls The Movie. If that does not help, nothing will!

George Harrison said the good thing about the Spice Girls is you could look at them and cut off the sound. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 09:20:48 AM
Ooh, and a Grabber too. Much more tasty playing than his later output. (that's Mark on bass right?)

Yeah, Marco Mendoza (not the Ted Nugent, Whitesnake, Black Star Riders, Dead Daisies guy of the same name), who went to Twisted Sister after Manifest Destiny flopped and The Dictators were unhappy with Sandy Pearlman's (he of BÖC fame) management. Professionally understandable perhaps, but musically a huge step of dumbing down. I like Dee Snider's wit in interviews, but an Andy Shernoff as a songwriter he was not. Twisted Sister were always at best ... workmanlike and heavy-handed. Marco Mendoza's right-hand technique is unmistakable though, he "slaps" - a bit double bass style - without slapping. He was quite busy with The Dictators, busier than Andy Shernoff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
George Harrison said the good thing about the Spice Girls is you could look at them and cut off the sound.

Victoria's/Posh Spice's/Frau Beckham's note-perfect live singing always stood out for me. Like a sore thumb. (Her mike was in fact switched off most of the time as she was tone-deaf.)

But she was/is a good fashion designer, I grant her that. And she was the prettiest Spice Girl in my eyes. Always had something of a comic book super heroine.

But my real guilty pleasure was ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0xQkk9kbc

(Some faint nose-wrinkling at 2:17, Dave, but not much, unfortunately, don't let it keep you from other, more important tasks.  8) )

And this here (which always owed more than a bit to "Walk like an Egyptian"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Wv4SCBiTE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 06, 2020, 09:43:10 AM
Yeah, Marco Mendoza (not the Ted Nugent, Whitesnake, Black Star Riders, Dead Daisies guy of the same name), who went to Twisted Sister after Manifest Destiny flopped and The Dictators were unhappy with Sandy Pearlman's (he of BÖC fame) management. Professionally understandable perhaps, but musically a huge step of dumbing down. I like Dee Snider's wit in interviews, but an Andy Shernoff as a songwriter he was not. Twisted Sister were always at best ... workmanlike and heavy-handed. Marco Mendoza's right-hand technique is unmistakable though, he "slaps" - a bit double bass style - without slapping. He was quite busy with The Dictators, busier than Andy Shernoff.

And even worse, it's my understanding that Snider was the only one who made any money on that dreck. What an awful band. I saw a "Behind the Music" type of program about them, and I was amazed listening to these guys talk about the band with any level of seriousness.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 10:27:39 AM
To give him credit - I saw TS on the Come Out & Play tour, their commercial halcyon days were already on the wane -, Snider could captivate an audience with his stage raps. Much like David Lee Roth, he was live more a conferencier than a lead singer. But musically ...  :-X

I thought Snider did ok with this outfit here - which never really got off the ground:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1uRKrHw0lk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1_7kSqWPY

And with these guys too, which got even less off the ground, though a supergroup of sorts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3XK9ZsohTU

I think with both bands he was reconnecting with his "inner David Coverdale".  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 10:32:59 AM
From Nashville, believe it or not. Pretty good, IMO. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCE5IBRdaXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gJqNMZPM_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmEkeRQw3MM

My son loves them (he has a penchant for what I call "roots rock") - and made me aware of them a while ago.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 06, 2020, 10:37:46 AM
Victoria's/Posh Spice's/Frau Beckham's note-perfect live singing always stood out for me. Like a sore thumb. (Her mike was in fact switched off most of the time as she was tone-deaf.)

But she was/is a good fashion designer, I grant her that. And she was the prettiest Spice Girl in my eyes. Always had something of a comic book super heroine.

But my real guilty pleasure was ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0xQkk9kbc

(Some faint nose-wrinkling at 2:17, Dave, but not much, unfortunately, don't let it keep you from other, more important tasks.  8) )

And this here (which always owed more than a bit to "Walk like an Egyptian"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Wv4SCBiTE

Unfortunately, the Girls Aloud video won't play in the U.S.  But I'd never even seen the Atomic Kitten video before.  I'm learning a lot.  This is good. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 06, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
My son loves them (he has a penchant for what I call "roots rock") - and made me aware of them a while ago.

This is also a good one, although it sounds a lot like one of their other songs.  I had never even heard of them.  I'm not sure how they would be categorized.  I guess I'd call them new Southern rock.  They do covers of the Allman Brothers, but also even Black Sabbath.  So they're covering a lot of territory. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-iyYofrVo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 06, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
True confession:

I remembered this AM that I had never listened to all of Pink Floyd's "The Wall," which I understand is supposed to be some kind of landmark album.

Now I've listened to it. As far as I'm concerned, there is only one cut on the album worth listening to - Another Brick in the Wall (part 1) which is at least interesting. I honestly can't find anything else interesting in the album, so, that's one CD I don't need to buy. I feel like I need a dose of four-beat rock & roll or surf to recover and wake up.  (Nurse, 30 minutes of Dick Dale, STAT!!)

For those who consider this a great album, I'm sure you are right for your ears and preferences.  As Mark Twain replied to critical letters, "Dear Sir or Madam, you may be right."

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 06, 2020, 03:26:06 PM
Young lust was my favorite from the wall. Otherwise, it's not something you want to listen to in a convertible on a sunny day.
Twisted Sister awful? Don't you wanna rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwrg0db_zY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 03:57:37 PM
True confession:

I remembered this AM that I had never listened to all of Pink Floyd's "The Wall," which I understand is supposed to be some kind of landmark album.

Now I've listened to it. As far as I'm concerned, there is only one cut on the album worth listening to - Another Brick in the Wall (part 1) which is at least interesting. I honestly can't find anything else interesting in the album, so, that's one CD I don't need to buy. I feel like I need a dose of four-beat rock & roll or surf to recover and wake up.  (Nurse, 30 minutes of Dick Dale, STAT!!)

For those who consider this a great album, I'm sure you are right for your ears and preferences.  As Mark Twain replied to critical letters, "Dear Sir or Madam, you may be right."

Will you marry me? My current wife thinks The Wall is the be-all and end-all of all pop music. I even had to go to a concert and hear Roger Waters and his hired hands play it live in full splendor note-perfect (which I hate in a live setting!). Me? I shrug my shoulders, it's not a pile of shite, but I can name you off the cuff three or even four Floyd albums I like better: Wish You Were Here, Animals, Meddle and even Dark Side of the Moon. I'm with David Gilmour, for me The Wall is Roger Waters' first solo album, too little guitar on it and I prefer if Floyd do Krautrock ambience music as on WYWH (an album of which Waters declares: "It had too much guitar on it.").

Trivia: The telltale Motownish bass line wasn't Waters' idea, his demo sounded like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBdYsuHsyQw

Ezrin, the producer talked him into the "disco bass". 2nd  time Ezrin came up with a noteworthy bass line after the bass riff in the verse of Detroit Rock City which was also his (lifted off some Stax recording). Thinking about it, with the focus on bass he had/has (currently recording with DP again), some of the more head-turning Dennis Dunaway bass riffs of the Alice Cooper Group are probably also of his making.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
The BÖCsters. Have a new Live album out (from 2014). I miss the Bouchard brothers and Herr Lanier, but these are great performances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-h4cM79zt0

Harvester of Eyes, oh my, I luuuuuv that song ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAts0dNooh8

Another classic from that gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waFIAubR3sk



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 04:43:32 PM
And before I am accused of only listening to stadium rock from the 70ies  :mrgreen:, I only discovered these guys (and one girl) recently, bit of Sonic Youth in them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzlySJJJQQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZRKkYB6bTs

The singer needs to eat though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0roMvy7dB2Q

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 06, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
Now that I've bared my soul about Pink Floyd and Uwe and I are pseudo-engaged....

I learned to my regret that Samantha Fish played here in Fort Collins last night and I missed it!!

DANGIT!!

This is my kind of music....go in about a minute to get past the long talky intro.  I can't understand much of the vocal, but the guitar work is pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ts0ZbAlBKE

HEY...think Gibson might put out one-a them oil can geetars like she's playing??


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2020, 07:02:39 PM
Hey, I said first she was good!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/959f9f07663b2fb595a1231e74d02214/tenor.gif?itemid=13202471)

Tsk, tsk, tsk, these attention lapses ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1MftCtIlg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 06, 2020, 08:30:38 PM
Since you posted Dr. Hook's I Got Stoned and I Missed It, that reminds me, I read a few days ago about a mother having to explain to her child the meaning of these lyrics from Sylvia's Mother:

And the operator says
"Forty cents more, for the next three minutes"


Of course both songs are Shel Silverstein compositions.

Here's one that no one else covered. No one could sing like Shel.

https://youtu.be/ksTGdke4Amo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2020, 08:15:21 AM
You can close your eyes and hear Dennis Locorriere or Ray Sawyer (who tended to sing the goofy stuff) sing it - before they turned country-soul-disco (and had lasting success, but gave up their uniqueness), nearly everything the Hooks sang was Silverstein-penned. Sylvia's Mother was cinematic, I hear that lyric and I see a man in a telephone booth pleading. I remember listening to their second album (I had is as a tape) "Sloppy Seconds" in Kinshasa around 73/74 again and again, and Silverstein's lyrics would create all these pictures in my head. Many songs he wrote for the Hooks had a Steinbeck'esque quality to them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNn0Vws-Y70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0HEQ8WSuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Z50V7tadg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MJ97gkZlE





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2020, 08:27:41 AM
This might just pass Dave's ruthless, yet discerning country test ...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfU65nd-bs0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 07, 2020, 08:48:09 AM
Samantha Fish is really great and a total doll. Very popular here in Chicago.

The Wall - I was never a big fan. I feel like there's a lot of filler. I've always considered Animals to be the last great PF album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 07, 2020, 10:05:18 AM
This might just pass Dave's ruthless, yet discerning country test ...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfU65nd-bs0

The image I have of Sylvia's Mother is forever influenced by Bobby Darin's performance on his short-lived variety show. It was split screen with Bobby pleading on one screen, and on the other, you see the mother trying to keep a bound-and-gagged Sylvia from wriggling towards the phone.  :)

Emmylou's Queen of the Silver Dollar was excellent, I don't recall it ever being released as a single. The definitive version was Dave & Sugar's first hit in 1975.

https://youtu.be/dBavibtWaM8



Of course Emmylou is country. Her first big hit was a Louvin Brothers cover from the 50s.

https://youtu.be/61KH3JC1tFM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 07, 2020, 11:59:52 AM
Shel is a classic, but for some reason it reminds me of Allen Sherman...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFTOvO0utY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on February 07, 2020, 12:38:01 PM
I loved Emmylou's music .  Saw Earl Scruggs, Emmylou, and Pure Prairie League a zillion years ago at the University of Cincinnati...

Was a fun show.  My favorite "Together Again" version...I have probably all of the older albums.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 07, 2020, 04:40:24 PM
I loved Emmylou's music .  Saw Earl Scruggs, Emmylou, and Pure Prairie League a zillion years ago at the University of Cincinnati...

Was a fun show.  My favorite "Together Again" version...I have probably all of the older albums.

I saw Linda Ronstadt also a zillion years ago.  She made quite a point that people should listen to Emmylou whenever they could.  It's almost like you could feel her frustration that Emmylou wasn't receiving enough attention at that point in time.  Or maybe she was, but it's obvious Linda Ronstadt wanted her to have more. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on February 08, 2020, 07:51:50 AM
I would love to be in a band doing older country. I for one fondly remember growing up with Hee Haw on Saturday night.

Going to see a rockabilly band from the commonwealth tonight...they also do old style country. It is guitar, string bass, drums...they are a lot of fun. Called Slick Willie and the Kentucky Jellies. Bass sounds great and he slaps the shit out of it. With all the movement and twirling, sometimes intonation is funky, but it's a lot of fun to watch.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2020, 09:01:17 AM

Emmylou's Queen of the Silver Dollar was excellent, I don't recall it ever being released as a single. The definitive version was Dave & Sugar's first hit in 1975.

https://youtu.be/dBavibtWaM8


I'm with the Hook original, Locorriere's original delivery has an emotional urgency I don't  hear in the other versions (though for Dr Hook standards, the song is almost over-arranged with all the brass heralding the arrival of the "Queen"). With all the jauntiness, it's not really a happy song. And there is of course the bitter twist at the end that it his her pimp who is singing the song. That really gripped me when I first heard it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on February 10, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
I've had Emmylou's version for a zillion years...loved it and the band.

The lyrics never registered. Have to give it a close listen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
The third verse reveals it all:

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her scepter is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

She arrives in all her splendor
Every night at nine o'clock
And her chariot is the crosstown bus
That stops right down the block.
The old piano minstrel
Plays her song as she walks in.
And the Queen of the Silver Dollar is home again.

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her scepter is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

Her royal gown is a satin dress
That's stained and slightly torn;
Her sparkling jewels are rhinestones
And her shoes are scuffed and worn
From the many roads she's traveled
And the wondrous sights she's seen
I watch her and I pray, God save the Queen.

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her sceptre is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

The Queen of the Silver Dollar
Is not as haughty as she seems.
She was once an ordinary girl
With ordinary dreams.
'Til I found her and I won her
And I brought her to this world.
Yes I'm the one who made a queen
Of a simple country girl.


She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her sceptre is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 10, 2020, 05:09:35 PM
I'm with the Hook original, Locorriere's original delivery has an emotional urgency I don't  hear in the other versions (though for Dr Hook standards, the song is almost over-arranged with all the brass heralding the arrival of the "Queen"). With all the jauntiness, it's not really a happy song. And there is of course the bitter twist at the end that it his her pimp who is singing the song. That really gripped me when I first heard it.

The third verse reveals it all:

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her scepter is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

She arrives in all her splendor
Every night at nine o'clock
And her chariot is the crosstown bus
That stops right down the block.
The old piano minstrel
Plays her song as she walks in.
And the Queen of the Silver Dollar is home again.

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her scepter is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

Her royal gown is a satin dress
That's stained and slightly torn;
Her sparkling jewels are rhinestones
And her shoes are scuffed and worn
From the many roads she's traveled
And the wondrous sights she's seen
I watch her and I pray, God save the Queen.

She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her sceptre is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.

The Queen of the Silver Dollar
Is not as haughty as she seems.
She was once an ordinary girl
With ordinary dreams.
'Til I found her and I won her
And I brought her to this world.
Yes I'm the one who made a queen
Of a simple country girl.


She's the Queen of the Silver Dollar
And she rules this smokey kingdom
And her sceptre is a wine glass
And a bar stool is her throne.
And the jesters flock around her
And fight to win her favor
And see which one will take the Queen of the Silver Dollar home.


No, no, no. He's not a pimp and she's not a prostitute. She's a woman he introduced to the honky tonk life and now she sits there drinking every night, looking for the right man to go home with. Such women definitely do exist.

Whenever I hear the song, it reminds me of Cheryl, a coworker many moons ago. She met a construction worker named Pete who took her to a notorious local bar. After he dumped her and left town, she hung out there for years, looking for the right man. She was beautiful, and there were always guys trying to take her home. I've seen her photo on Facebook through a group we both follow, she looks in very rough shape.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
"Such women definitely do exist."


Ah, Dave and his lifelong cougar experiences - life's resin finely matured to amber for all of us to marvel at. Who am I to argue! The only pick ups I know are on my basses and I prefer front to rear. When women speak to me in a bar, I'm generally startled and assume they must be mistaking me for someone else.

(https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000QGGlg_WWCX8/s/600/600/TK112821.jpg)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqfepoMB-DM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 11, 2020, 08:57:10 AM
"Such women definitely do exist."


Ah, Dave and his lifelong cougar experiences - life's resin finely matured to amber for all of us to marvel at. Who am I to argue! The only pick ups I know are on my basses and I prefer front to rear. When women speak to me in a bar, I'm generally startled and assume they must be mistaking me for someone else.

(https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000QGGlg_WWCX8/s/600/600/TK112821.jpg)



This woman wasn't a cougar and I wasn't interested in her. She was a lush and a nympho. Not a nice combination.

I could post dozens of fallen women in honky tonk songs, but here's one of the most famous, Hank Thompson originally recorded this in 1952.

https://youtu.be/2e9gZ9fyoZg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 11, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
(https://img.discogs.com/yWjiAEVpSVswUfuUAFGDjpphyUY=/fit-in/600x587/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-13604700-1557352971-8099.jpeg.jpg)

Sure, I remember it, produced by Roger Glover (he of Deep Purple fame, there is no escape in this forum from them!) and performed by Status Quo in 1976! You think I'm ignorant or what?  :rimshot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgK2AYh0gd0

Do these four Brits pass your country test?  :mrgreen:

(PS: I'm particularly proud of this post: Country, Deep Purple, Status Quo and making Dave gape in incredulity and despair all in one!)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 05:46:45 AM
Currently tracing the career of keyboardsmith Mark Mangold (American Tears who morphed into Touch, The Sign, songwriter of Cher's Maybe I Found Someone)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlUrfpsnFqs&list=RDEMYGZCs6unuvS2g84exgkpvg&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7rwVjLgR6E&list=RDEMYGZCs6unuvS2g84exgkpvg&index=2

This is an AOR classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiyIS0ekvas

If a thing is worth doing, it's worth overdoing, who said something of overblown bombast?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBH54R68A-s

Alas!, it's natural flowing hair awareness week again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zivtxPfF5Bg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 12, 2020, 10:05:28 AM
She was a lush and a nympho. Not a nice combination.

Wait, what?!?!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2020, 11:09:19 AM
...

Sure, I remember it, produced by Roger Glover (he of Deep Purple fame, there is no escape in this forum from them!) and performed by Status Quo in 1976! You think I'm ignorant or what?  :rimshot:

...

Do these four Brits pass your country test?  :mrgreen:

(PS: I'm particularly proud of this post: Country, Deep Purple, Status Quo and making Dave gape in incredulity and despair all in one!)

Yes, they do.

Wait, what?!?!  :mrgreen:

What can I say?  :mrgreen: 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2020, 11:14:30 AM
Even Anita Pointer can be country. Great duet from 1986 with Earl Tnomas Conley, who passed away last year.

https://youtu.be/m-PFlFl3WqQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 02:17:32 PM
That is a lovely ballad.

I always liked the Pointer Sisters and while we're at it: Sister Sledge too, stone me. I dig that Nile Rodgers/Bernard Edwards hit factory stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSroXhI2uZs

But I still have to get over the fact that David Westheimer single-handedly elevated Status Quo to Grand Ole Opry status (pun unintended). Francis Rossi, who always fought tooth and nail for his C&W leanings within the band, would feel hugely appreciated. Danke, Dave, vielen lieben Dank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0b9UdIPjf4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 02:22:50 PM
More C&W from a bunch of Brits - let's strike the iron while it's hot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxS7DtM1TZU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 12, 2020, 03:03:38 PM
Some other British artists who also briefly gave country a try before sadly sinking into obscurity. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5rpAqfd35Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 04:40:38 PM
Hopeless outfit, they never stood a chance really.

Of course, our prominent and very vocal Dutch minority here has never been C&W averse really and proved themselves again and again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEPIpTpoPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-G5lgj_lU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkOy4T3jRIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVz_IJoyO6Y

Our own Kraut efforts paled in comparison, you can invade the Dutch all you want, but you can never conquer them ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLj6x4_gPlo

Football excepted, of course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnrIPGZZ10g

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 04:55:43 PM
Honorary mention: At least lyrically it's country and so are the chord changes (besides, Mark is always happy when he SEES David Byron and HEARS Gary Thain):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3OcwvyI

Byron had better days than this vid shows, alcohol abuse was beginning to show and it eventually got him fired from Heep and ultimately he died from it too.  :-\

A (much) later line-up would do the song better justice (the late Trevor Bolder's bass playing is bliss and the vocals by Canuck Bernie Shaw are top notch):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRFW8QSQYY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
It's Moe Bandy's birthday (of course, I'm sure Uwe has it menorized)

https://youtu.be/-YGfx6L0TQY

https://youtu.be/C5r2uXFHc4Y

https://youtu.be/WQHSO0p6dDg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
I like the newer stuff where he is older better than the older stuff when he was newer!

If that make sense.  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 12, 2020, 08:39:35 PM
Well, my country-ish group plays this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDUc8ZLQ_E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2020, 09:03:57 PM
I like the newer stuff where he is older better than the older stuff when he was newer!

If that make sense.  :-X

It does, but all three are from the same era -- 1975 to 1981. These are just live performances from different times.

Someday Soon is an old Ian & Sylvia tune from the folk era, written by Ian.


Well, my country-ish group plays this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDUc8ZLQ_E

A lot of people still think it's autobiographical, but he wasn't. Bandy the Sheet Metal Worker wouldn't have been a hit.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 12, 2020, 11:52:38 PM
I also like "Someday Soon" by Suzy Bogguss and Judy Collins.  It's just a well-written song no matter who sings it. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3O0TP03KIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jn90y9H9S4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2020, 04:53:28 AM
Hey, I like Suzy B's voice! Just bought a three CD compilation of her Capitol work. Always instructive this forum is - I had never heard of her before. Danke schön.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 13, 2020, 07:06:55 AM
Hey, I like Suzy B's voice! Just bought a three CD compilation of her Capitol work. Always instructive this forum is - I had never heard of her before. Danke schön.

You're welcome.  That voice and those brown eyes.  All that got to me.  She was singing "Someday Soon."  I was singing "You Really Got Me" back to her. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2020, 07:56:27 AM
Brown eyes? Ah, the Robin Beck effect! Contagious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6-L98l6eE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIaVbipL0ow

She has done great things for the introduction of pinnacles of American culture to that otherwise barren wasteland called Germany - and her très sexy Yank accent when singing auf Deutsch ... to die for!  :-* :-* :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1lnuh0ut7M

And what's a Burger without a Coke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wqanvQV1bw

She's playing a Frankfurt club in summer - together with the original lead vocalist from Survivor. The (smallish) venue is called "Das Bett" - literally "the bed". In bed with Robin ... I think I'll need to wear diapers for that gig.  :rimshot:

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2020, 08:07:30 AM
Ah, Suzy Bogguss. Her first top 10 country hit was her great cover of Nanci Griffith's Outbound Plane. Whenever I think of her, this video is seared in my mind. From 1991.

https://youtu.be/ce9kGLhAee0


Live, posted in 2013. She and her voice have aged well.

https://youtu.be/9KsEVeEc3JE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 13, 2020, 08:57:44 AM
Honorary mention: At least lyrically it's country and so are the chord changes (besides, Mark is always happy when he SEES David Byron and HEARS Gary Thain):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3OcwvyI

Byron had better days than this vid shows, alcohol abuse was beginning to show and it eventually got him fired from Heep and ultimately he died from it too.  :-\

A (much) later line-up would do the song better justice (the late Trevor Bolder's bass playing is bliss and the vocals by Canuck Bernie Shaw are top notch):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRFW8QSQYY

When is the second clip from? I kind of feel bad for those guys as I'm reading the new book on Rush's touring history. Rush was opening for Heep, then eventually, the tables were turned and Heep was the opener. At some point, Judas Priest got tacked on, and before too long Heep were opening for Priest! Really good band that straddled between hard rock and prog. Maybe they had image problems compounded by personnel changes, IDK?
 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 13, 2020, 09:45:05 AM
Honorary mention: At least lyrically it's country and so are the chord changes (besides, Mark is always happy when he SEES David Byron and HEARS Gary Thain):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3OcwvyI

Byron had better days than this vid shows, alcohol abuse was beginning to show and it eventually got him fired from Heep and ultimately he died from it too.  :-\

A (much) later line-up would do the song better justice (the late Trevor Bolder's bass playing is bliss and the vocals by Canuck Bernie Shaw are top notch):

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRFW8QSQYY

 Uriah Heepcame along after Slade for me, the lineup with Byron, Box, Kerslake Hensley and Thain really cooked, and I think Thain really was the driver at that point (even if he didn't write the songs), as his playing is quite a bit more creative than his predecessor and while Jon Wetton was certainly a great player I feel the band lost everything with Gary's death. I like Trevor Bolder and his playing a lot too, he probably should have been Thain's replacement from the beginning, love his playing in the second vid, but tone - ugh! Too burpy, he sounded WAY BETTER playing his GIBSON.  David Byron was indeed a handsome fellow to me at least! His death is almost lost today, truly a tragedy.       



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2020, 10:36:22 AM
That second vid is from 2006 or thereabouts - a while before Trevor succumbed to pancreatic cancer. With latter day Heep, he was essentially the lead guitarist - one octave lower! If I may quote him from an interview: "I know I overplay. All the time (laughs). But it's the only way I know how to play bass, I can't play simple and believe me I've tried. Blame Jack Bruce!"

Heep were never as big in Germany as, say, Deep Purple or Status Quo, but they had (and have) their strongest following here and could fill large halls easily in their 70ies heydays while still being good enough for regular touring here (at least once a year) of small halls to large clubs, but always full. I only saw them recently with Wishbone Ash and Nazareth opening for them (and Don Airey of DP deputizing for their regular keyboarder who had tragically lost his adult son to cancer over Christmas). They make a solid living and the current line up has been the most stable and long-living one - these guys have essentially (voc, guit & keyb) been together for 34 (!) years now, with only the drummer (Lee Kerslake left for cardiac health reasons) and the bassist (Trevor died in 2013 and had been sick for a while before that) being changed/replaced once. Box/Lanzon (the - compositionally very gifted - keyboarder) are now the chief songwriting team and Lanzon's Hammond is the most dominant instrument (at least since Trevor left, he was immensely loud live  :mrgreen:), even more dominant than the Hammond is with DP (!!!) or how it used to be with Heep in the days of Ken Hensley who was no shrinking violet with his overdriven organ either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 13, 2020, 10:48:08 AM
Today I've been attempting to reconstruct the mix tape (actual tape from the cassette era) that changed my life.
Not everything on it is on spotify, but I got most of it, though I can't remember the running order:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7Iq8zqKHNDmdDUmp93qIgh?si=YWW8HOBxSyi3VlbB4Gz0hA

This was my intro to the "underground" music of the time (circa 1987) and my aesthetic was permanently warped after playing this tape hundreds of times ... I would broadly classify it as a range of post-hardcore indie-label music of North America. A few of these bands (notably Minutemen and Husker Du) have stuck with me to this day.  Sadly I never got to see most of these live (the exceptions being Soul Asylum who I found kind of boring, and Butthole Surfers who I saw in '88 during the "two drummers, three strobe lights, naked dancer" era ... it was a bit scary, almost too pyscho / trippy for my teenage brain to handle, but it was definitely NOT BORING and a memorable experience for sure)

If you don't have Spotify here's the list:

Husker Du - Something I Learned Today
Husker Du - I Will Never Forget You

Black Flag - Account for What

Minutemen - Jesus & Tequila
Minutemen - Nothing Indeed
Minutemen - Vietnam
Minutemen - June 16th (instrumental)
Minutemen - Martin's Story ("What you makin' man)
Minutemen - Dr Wu
Minutemen - Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love

Butthole Surfers - Ladysniff

Killdozer - Hamburger Martyr
Killdozer - Cranberries
Killdozer - I'm Not Lisa

Scratch Acid - Crazy Dan
Scratch Acid - Big Bone Lick

Soul Asylum - Religiavision
Soul Asylum - Closer to the Stars


Not on spotify:


Nomeansno - Dad
Nomeansno - Obsessed

Victims Family - Song X (studio version from Voltage and Violets)
Victims Family - George Benson - from Voltage and Violets
Victims Family - ? - Voltage and Violets track 1 I think?

Big Black - Crackup
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 13, 2020, 11:46:56 AM
Robin Beck, known way more in Europe than the U.S.  For a while, Suzy Bogguss got some attention, though.  She had her time in the spotlight, although at least in the U.S. Robin Beck didn't.  It wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last that someone gets noticed more outside their own country.  In fact, I was just talking to someone in Denmark about this yesterday. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 17, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Johnny Bush is 85 today and still going strong. This is from a performance last year. Real country music.

https://youtu.be/zq_FixObnoQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 18, 2020, 08:34:53 AM
Some of the best two-step music I've heard.

For those in Deutschland and other points across the Atlantic.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoscqzFdwB0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2020, 10:30:55 AM
Recorded on this date in 1959. One of my all-time favorites.

https://youtu.be/EPLZL4s_jtI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 18, 2020, 01:11:29 PM
The opening to that Ray Charles number is so distorted I wasn't sure for a moment if it was a guitar or piano. Sounds like Link Wray went after the speaker cone with pencils and a hunting knife. 

Great tune, though.  I watched the movie Ray recently and his music was just compelling.

Dick Dale used to play the hook from What'd I Say during his shows, get a back-and-forth "What'd I say" going for a couple of minutes with the audience, then slide into other tunes.  The audience always loved it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2020, 03:44:06 PM
The opening to that Ray Charles number is so distorted I wasn't sure for a moment if it was a guitar or piano. Sounds like Link Wray went after the speaker cone with pencils and a hunting knife. 

Great tune, though.  I watched the movie Ray recently and his music was just compelling.

Dick Dale used to play the hook from What'd I Say during his shows, get a back-and-forth "What'd I say" going for a couple of minutes with the audience, then slide into other tunes.  The audience always loved it.

It was an electric piano.

And Link Wray never did that. If he had, Archie Bleyer would have thrown him out of the studio. He invented the story years later, after Dave Davies said he did.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2020, 08:38:58 PM
Recorded on this date in 1959. One of my all-time favorites.

https://youtu.be/EPLZL4s_jtI

What Ray plays with his left hand was my first bass line ever - from the Harvey Vinson book, in 1977.  :)

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--i_0OPCnj--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1516119753/zcvd9kuk6wo8fmv5evir.jpg)

I remember jamming on it 12 bar style for hours - literally hours - in our rehearsal space. And since the bass instruction book showed it in the key of A, but the two fledgling guitarists demanded we play it in E and I couldn't transpose from A 5th fret to E empty string, I proceeded to play what I had learned in A seven frets higher, 12th fret in E. :mrgreen: It had a devastating effect on my young (16) mind - it got me addicted to playing high registers!  ;D

Still play variations of it to this day (by now I'm proficient in every key, thanks for asking), e.g. when I'm checking out a new bass or a restrung one. I guess I could have started off with something worse even though it took me decades to realize it was a Ray Charles piano run!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2020, 08:44:19 PM
Some of the best two-step music I've heard.

For those in Deutschland and other points across the Atlantic.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoscqzFdwB0

Pah, as a lifelong Deep Purple fan one is educated in such things too! Those threads that don't end in Ritchie Blackmore, end in Tommy Bolin, didn't you know?!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9XDmCNrkgw

We even get line dancing here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETUXRf4x1M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 18, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
My latest obsession is Kate Bush's live album "Before the Dawn".
There are few artists who have got under my skin and stayed there for quite as long a time.
Like everybody, I had assumed that there would never be any more Kate Bush live performances, and was astonished when she did a month of shows in 2014.
I find it almost absurdly moving that this document even exists. Wish I could have been there.

There appears to be no footage on Youtube except the official video of "And Dream of Sheep", which was a promo and also shown during the concerts (I am unclear on whether the pre-recorded vocal was used live).
Her voice is deeper. I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256xd9N27o

Some of my favorite songs on the live album are the ones I wasn't familiar with before - like "Joanni" and "King of the Mountain", both originally from 2005's "Aerial", which I overlooked and now need to get.
People looking for the early songs will be disappointed though. Nearly all of "Hounds of Love" was performed - and nothing at all from the four albums before it!

I looked it up and noticed some familar names in the live band for this version: Omar Hakim on drums, John Giblin on bass, and on guitar David Rhodes (from Peter Gabriel's band).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPfXXNKKhc8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2020, 12:21:15 PM
Two from Emmylou and Mark Knopfler

https://youtu.be/5uIXsr0XWdI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2020, 04:29:39 PM
My latest obsession is Kate Bush's live album "Before the Dawn".


That's a good live performance (have had the CDs for some time) and from what I heard people were in awe at her concerts.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2020, 05:35:43 PM
Does this qualify, Dave ... (biting lip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdtlJXjO2Ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr0ktKa7SaQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
Does this qualify, Dave ... (biting lip)

...

Do you really have to ask?

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2020, 04:09:22 AM
Yes, your criteria and their application on a case-by-case basis are opaque to me! It's not a visual or an origin thing, right? What is it? Recording techniques? Rock drums? Popularity with people that otherwise don't really like C&W? Wrong accent? I'm trying to get to the root of this authenticity thing.

As a European I'm entitled to ask. If you said in Germany "die Eagles sind eine Country Rock Band", no one would flinch for a second. If you added "Taylor Swift spielt keinen Country mehr", people would agree.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 20, 2020, 08:47:02 AM
Here's a little bit of history, and the sound recording is good.

44 years ago the up and coming band Heart played a gig in - of all places - the TV studio at Washington State University. I've worked and directed in that studio, and it might have seated 80 to 100 people. The place was packed, but keep in mind this is Heart playing a one-hour concert for perhaps 100 people, in a TV studio on a college campus 80 miles south of Spokane in eastern Washington. That campus enrolled just over 15,000 students at the time. However, for some reason WSU got all the top acts - I remember seeing acts from Earth Wind and Fire and The Moody Blues, to Neil Diamond and Blood, Sweat & Tears. Go figure.

The studio was not quite 3 years old; I was one of the first students to lay hands on the cameras when it was built in 1973, and was one of the first to broadcast from the new radio studios in the building next door. At the time this was recorded I was in Oregon, and wouldn't return to the Palouse region until a year later. For TV fans, the opening is the compulsory (for that time) irritating electronic music and effects highlighting the call letters KWSU.  Special effects are limited to diamond wipes and other analog switching that was all we had to work with in 1976.

The recording is an hour, and I haven't gotten through the whole thing yet. But it's a point in time when they were just about to release their album Dreamboat Annie, the album that brought the band international fame. (Ann mentions this early in her intro to Heartless.) They had been playing in Canada and were just re-entering the US, and were poised to join the top ranks of musical stars in the next months. So this is Heart playing a tiny venue just before they became a national hit; but it was playing on TV, and the feed went out to the entire region.

You'll see a sunburst Fender Jazz bass and some interesting Gibson guitars including a Les Paul, and Nancy changes instruments and plays what looks like a white Les Paul Jr during Heartless.  Good shots of the keyboards and synth - although I can't identify what model it is. You'll also see the bass player wearing a really silly outfit that's reminiscent of the guitarist at the  band play-off in the movie School of Rock.

The audio is pretty darn good.  I knew the director, Mike Cotsones, and I know the crew there took pains to get good audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp862e4vaug&fbclid=IwAR3q11-t0HBeykGJUldENWcYcqXAJVvXM7oXyGwiyMgquBOTBBMj4bJRDeg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2020, 10:34:54 AM
Oh my, this is cute. Progish little outfit they were in their early days. And Nancy does harmony leads - sweet!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2020, 03:22:22 PM
Yes, your criteria and their application on a case-by-case basis are opaque to me! It's not a visual or an origin thing, right? What is it? Recording techniques? Rock drums? Popularity with people that otherwise don't really like C&W? Wrong accent? I'm trying to get to the root of this authenticity thing.

As a European I'm entitled to ask. If you said in Germany "die Eagles sind eine Country Rock Band", no one would flinch for a second. If you added "Taylor Swift spielt keinen Country mehr", people would agree.

Instead of asking on a case-by-case basis, you might spend some time listening to real country, then you wouldn't have to ask.  :)

Try Keeping It Country Live (http://keepingitcountrylive.com/) (for example). Especially Justin Trevino's From Tennessee To Texas And Beyond, every Friday. You can listen to his recent past shows through the archive on the front page.

BTW, Miranda Lambert has a good voice and is one of the few modern Nashville crapsters whose accent isn't fake. But the songs she sings aren't country songs. Cute outfits and fancy videos can't change that.

This afternoon's country earworms (duet edition)

https://youtu.be/NO9V_Qg7cZ8

https://youtu.be/4HnUYdPResY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2020, 04:02:16 PM
And I thought the bimbo glamour outfits in the one vid were, errm, tongue in cheek, is that uncountry'sh?  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 21, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
It isn't as easy as it used to be to tell what is or is not country music.  You've got, for example, bro-country artists such as Blake Shelton who have a lot of influence.  He is the one on "The Voice."  Some people know him as the guy who left Miranda Lambert for Gwen Stefani.  His personal life is of no concern.  It's his music which bothers me.  One of his songs which I especially dislike is "Boys "Round Here" which begins by bragging that the boys he is around don't listen to the Beatles.  The song supposedly is a celebration of the Southern lifestyle.  Personally,, as a Southerner I find it embarrassing.  Sam Gazdziak of "Country Universe" wrote that it was "sexist, crude and jam-packed with country stereotypes, it's an embarrassment to everyone involved."

Not to focus too much on Blake Shelton.  I'm sure he is someone who is well-meaning.  He is just a clear-cut example.  His latest endeavor, by the way, is a collaboration with Pitbull called "Get Ready" which seems to be some kind of cover of Ram Jam's "Black Betty."  One difference with this song is that it doesn't attempt to be a country song.  And Blake Shelton is just Pitbull's featured artist on the song.  Fair enough. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 21, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
Here's a little bit of history, and the sound recording is good.

44 years ago the up and coming band Heart played a gig in - of all places - the TV studio at Washington State University. I've worked and directed in that studio, and it might have seated 80 to 100 people. The place was packed, but keep in mind this is Heart playing a one-hour concert for perhaps 100 people, in a TV studio on a college campus 80 miles south of Spokane in eastern Washington. That campus enrolled just over 15,000 students at the time. However, for some reason WSU got all the top acts - I remember seeing acts from Earth Wind and Fire and The Moody Blues, to Neil Diamond and Blood, Sweat & Tears. Go figure.

The studio was not quite 3 years old; I was one of the first students to lay hands on the cameras when it was built in 1973, and was one of the first to broadcast from the new radio studios in the building next door. At the time this was recorded I was in Oregon, and wouldn't return to the Palouse region until a year later. For TV fans, the opening is the compulsory (for that time) irritating electronic music and effects highlighting the call letters KWSU.  Special effects are limited to diamond wipes and other analog switching that was all we had to work with in 1976.

The recording is an hour, and I haven't gotten through the whole thing yet. But it's a point in time when they were just about to release their album Dreamboat Annie, the album that brought the band international fame. (Ann mentions this early in her intro to Heartless.) They had been playing in Canada and were just re-entering the US, and were poised to join the top ranks of musical stars in the next months. So this is Heart playing a tiny venue just before they became a national hit; but it was playing on TV, and the feed went out to the entire region.

You'll see a sunburst Fender Jazz bass and some interesting Gibson guitars including a Les Paul, and Nancy changes instruments and plays what looks like a white Les Paul Jr during Heartless.  Good shots of the keyboards and synth - although I can't identify what model it is. You'll also see the bass player wearing a really silly outfit that's reminiscent of the guitarist at the  band play-off in the movie School of Rock.

The audio is pretty darn good.  I knew the director, Mike Cotsones, and I know the crew there took pains to get good audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp862e4vaug&fbclid=IwAR3q11-t0HBeykGJUldENWcYcqXAJVvXM7oXyGwiyMgquBOTBBMj4bJRDeg

Thanks for posting this. I'm pretty sure I've seen some of it before. That early lineup was SO good, and a world away from what they became during the MTV era.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2020, 02:25:26 PM
Among the myriads of guitarists Thin Lizzy had, this guy sounds faintly familiar!  :mrgreen: And Brian does his best Pick Withers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oliMOPsXis
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 22, 2020, 03:34:38 PM
This popped up in my feed today, video is from Weekend at Bernie's 3, which somehow was overlooked in the Oscar nominations.  ;)

https://youtu.be/2aljlKYesT4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 22, 2020, 06:38:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0UvIZw-Y0

Thinking about blues tunes for my band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2020, 05:52:19 PM
She's baaack! Anne Reburn's latest cover, complete with that cute nose wrinkling that Uwe loves so much.

I don't care for the slow intro, but IMHO overall it's well done.

https://youtu.be/degJiBNHnok
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 23, 2020, 11:05:19 PM
From the Beatles for Sale/Beatles '65 album. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJFpUb7JGYo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2020, 12:44:38 PM
She's baaack! Anne Reburn's latest cover, complete with that cute nose wrinkling that Uwe loves so much.

I don't care for the slow intro, but IMHO overall it's well done.

Oh, she's so adorably cute!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/H7VOTQAITYMQDkfV63FA5gUMlOZWsWumQX0W4Jhju-SmAsVFW1hSsoM6SW0j1KJCMgGBGxhU4sO1VcMuPpS35MV2N_CAVXnSAqMy_wZuatDAhFxwlirPPw)

And those sweet nose wrinkles, I'd like to see her in a shark basin, I'm sure they'd get along, it's mimicry ain't it?

(https://inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/04/Gills-Close-Up.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2T4UCMsx0g

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2020, 04:59:53 PM
Domo arigato, Sakura, nose-wrinkle-free talent in young women lives.

https://youtu.be/uvtJYC8qsQk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on February 24, 2020, 11:15:24 PM
Great! But there is actually a quite sophisticated wrinkle around the solo part. Much more advanced than the baby spice wrinkle that I find symmetrical but boring. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2020, 05:03:35 AM
I rest my case. We need a dedicated thread for nose-wrinkly female talents with Dave as the resident expert moderating!

PS: But young Sakura's nose wrinkles aren't rehearsed Shirley Temple style "I want to look good for middle-aged +++ men and your usual youtube/instagram viewing folk", but, uhum, signs of artistic expression as she selflessly kk-downings her way through

"Sworn to avenge ...
Condemned to hell!
Tempt not the blade ...
All fear the sentinel!"

 :mrgreen:

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/6d77a0d973ed4ef4466f258c237dce58/tumblr_nkg2knwYUU1rjl6wko5_250.gifv)


Though I give the cute Fräulein Reburn high LGBT awareness marks for singing "... and let me be your man" in the Beatles chestnut rather than opting for the logical, even self-inviting "... and let me be your girl" - otoh, perhaps she was only worried that any kind of deviation from the original might confound her demanding audience? Or perhaps, all those nose wrinkle rehearsals, all-American smiles and cocking your head into the camera had her preoccupied over the lyrical content.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2020, 07:48:02 AM
When I'm not listening to juvenile Judas Priest escapist lyrics or - albeit vainly - fighting off nose wrinkle-itis, I slavishly buy Drive-By Truckers product. They have a new album out (The Unraveling), NSFW, socially aware lyrics - how dare they?! Also contains the angry line "stick it up your ass with your useless thoughts & prayers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4xSqNVII
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 25, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
Thanks for posting that, Uwe.  I'd love to hear George Strait, Garth Brooks and Keith Urban performing that in public.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2020, 11:53:08 AM
When I'm not listening to juvenile Judas Priest escapist lyrics or - albeit vainly - fighting off nose wrinkle-itis, I slavishly buy Drive-By Truckers product. They have a new album out (The Unraveling), NSFW, socially aware lyrics - how dare they?! Also contains the angry line "stick it up your ass with your useless thoughts & prayers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4xSqNVII

I'm just speculating a little because my familiarity with the Drive-By Truckers is not extensive.  But when listening to that I was immediately struck by how flat the accent sounded  Like how the diphthongs were drawn out so much.  I don't know if it's Patterson Hood or Mike Cooley singing.  But I looked up videos of both.  It appears they both speak with perfectly normal Southern accents.  But when they sing, as someone with a Southern accent, to me it comes out as very affected.  I know there are other singers out there who also do the same thing.  I just have to wonder why.  But the point is to my ears it doesn't come across as authentic.  If they sang the same way they talked, of course that would be another matter.  I'm not trying to be critical of the band.  I've heard good things about them.  But I am a little puzzled about exactly what is going on.  I'm questioning what is happening.  Who knows, maybe I've wrong.  Because I was under the impression that the Drive-By Truckers sounded a lot like the Allman Brothers.  But after listening to that, that does not appear to be the case. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on February 25, 2020, 12:13:02 PM
I saw them several years back. They are nothing like the Allmans. They are a category unto themselves...

Just listened to the cut...going to Amazon right now.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2020, 12:54:51 PM
I saw them several years back. They are nothing like the Allmans. They are a category unto themselves...

Just listened to the cut...going to Amazon right now.

I was expecting a sound like the Allman Brothers or Government Mule.  So, needless to say, I was pretty surprised.  I don't know where I got the impression that they sounded like that. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 25, 2020, 03:09:22 PM
When I'm not listening to juvenile Judas Priest escapist lyrics or - albeit vainly - fighting off nose wrinkle-itis, I slavishly buy Drive-By Truckers product. They have a new album out (The Unraveling), NSFW, socially aware lyrics - how dare they?! Also contains the angry line "stick it up your ass with your useless thoughts & prayers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4xSqNVII
   

 Great song!   

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2020, 07:27:45 PM
Bullshit anti-gun propaganda sung by goobers with fake accents.


Nothing fake about this. Music, not propaganda.

https://youtu.be/uaGF6WPuSpM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
Bullshit anti-gun propaganda sung by goobers with fake accents.


Nothing fake about this. Music, not propaganda.

https://youtu.be/uaGF6WPuSpM

You nailed it.  I've just been thinking about this some more since I posted.  Whoever that guy is, obviously he is smart.  He has fooled people into thinking that he is authentic.  He speaks with the same South Midland accent that I do.  There is no difference.  Yet when he sings, that's about the most godawful fake Southern accent that I've ever heard.  It's all for effect.  It'a all part of the show.  Johnny Cash and Carl Perkins--nothing fake about either one.  I just happened to run across Johnny Cash last night on an old Western.  Very enjoyable watching that!  I'd like to see it again. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 25, 2020, 08:03:20 PM
Or Dolly Parton... She speaks and sings like east Tennessee. Nothing fake about it.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 08:18:27 AM
More bad-accents-non-country-rubbish-music us easily impressionable Krauts are enticed by:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D-6nklMMbM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aSRpbLOfo0

Title: Epic Gods Fail ... (Clapton and Waters make a mess of Sunshine of your Love)
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 08:22:58 AM
Sometimes gods can be mortals too. Don't listen to this if you like the song, they start around 4:30 and the only redeeming feature are the vocals of the one black background singer chick - I believe Ginger would have kicked them off the stage. Man, they will have to do some patching up, should this ever come out officially:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hrN3fp3mSg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 08:34:48 AM
I was expecting a sound like the Allman Brothers or Government Mule.  So, needless to say, I was pretty surprised.  I don't know where I got the impression that they sounded like that.

There was an audible influence of that on their very early albums, but since then they have probably become closer to, say, The Gaslight Anthem than to the Allmans. Songwriting and lyrics took precedence over jammy instrumentalism - of course, there is room for both, but seldom in one band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 26, 2020, 08:35:10 AM
That was pretty bad indeed.
Actually I have never heard Clapton having such bad tone.
And who on earth thought it was a good idea to let Roger Waters do the bass on this song?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 26, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
It's not fair to judge Clapton's tone based on an iphone recording. Roger wasn't a virtuoso here but he got the job done as he always has with doing the least amount of work possible. They have worked together before on Roger's Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking album so not a completely bewildering ensemble. It's the thought that really counts though right?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 26, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
It's not fair to judge Clapton's tone based on an iphone recording.

Oh come on. Even with an iPhone recording you can hear it's crap, can't you?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 26, 2020, 09:13:37 AM
Oh come on. Even with an iPhone recording you can hear it's crap, can't you?

My thought was also that I can't judge it based on a phone recording..although it's definitely not great, I can't hear the mix, the voices or the low end.

I'd sum it up as an effort that didn't work very well, but I'm confident it sounded a lot better in person than it did on that phone recording. The cameras in phones are amazing, but the mics are still crap.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 10:02:48 AM
No amount of bad recording quality can excuse a performance as bad as this, I've listened to enough bootlegs, believe me. Crap shines through. The song is too slow, Clapton off key (and Waters when he sings), Clapton's soloing listless and uninspired (he's playing for Ginger Baker, dammit!) and Waters playing unenergetic as if he played that iconic bass riff for the first time. We all know that Waters isn't Stanley Clarke, but even he can do better.

Both of them sure had a bad night (as it happens to all of us), pity it was recorded.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2020, 10:09:49 AM
There was an audible influence of that on their very early albums, but since then they have probably become closer to, say, The Gaslight Anthem than to the Allmans. Songwriting and lyrics took precedence over jammy instrumentalism - of course, there is room for both, but seldom in one band.

I read some comments by one of the co-founders last night.  He said he had wanted their music to be a rebellion against Lynyrd Skynyrd and .38 Special.  Also, that he was obsessed with Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young.  Nothing was said about the Allmans, but when it gets down to it, you don't hear too many people saying anything negative about them.  I once had a girlfriend who didn't seem to like them at all.  But she seemed to be the exception to the rule.  She did cause me to miss two Allman Brothers concerts, though.  Something not to be joked about and something which I regret to this day.  With the second concert I made it to the parking lot as their were finishing their last song.  That's the closest I ever got to seeing the Allman Brothers.  By the time I got inside, the stage was empty.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 26, 2020, 10:10:14 AM
Yeah it kind of sucked. So sue them?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2020, 10:14:58 AM
Yeah it kind of sucked. So sue them?

I should have sued my girlfriend!!.  Just joking.  I realize your post is about something else. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 10:15:58 AM
Where's my Dutch Thin Lizzy floozy?

Rob, I have to make amends! Listened to Bad Reputation (the album) a couple of times. It's real nice (especially the ballady stuff - appeals to a wuss like me), good melodic songwriting. For the record: Downey's bass drum work on Bad Reputation (the song) is great.

And that feathery, airy Lynott bass playing ...  ;D You can hear that he had an extremely light touch with his right hand (not a complaint, I don't dig very hard either and it got lighter and lighter over the years) which brings the old Scott Gorham comment to mind: "Phil didn't play or pick bass, he strummed it like no-one else I've heard did".

Plus that phaser-drenched sound of the bass all over the record ...  :mrgreen: If effects endorsements had been commonplace back then, Phil would have made serious money with this "phased bass demonstration record". It sure sounds like my old Ibanez phaser - minus the hiss.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLxo7VRcknM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unnh0T2Ftro

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 10:18:20 AM
Yeah it kind of sucked. So sue them?

Naw, I'm still busy preparing that big case against Led Zeppelin for emotional cruelty, idiot lyrics, sloppy solos and general behind-the-beat-dragging, can't have my attention diverted ...

(https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81E6HVhcpwL.__AC_SY300_QL70_ML2_.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
More bad-accents-non-country-rubbish-music us easily impressionable Krauts are enticed by:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D-6nklMMbM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aSRpbLOfo0

I've never heard of them.  But I did notice that Amanda Shires is in that.  She has been on a number of songs by Jason Isbell who used to be a member of Drive-By Truckers. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 10:58:22 AM
I read some comments by one of the co-founders last night.  He said he had wanted their music to be a rebellion against Lynyrd Skynyrd and .38 Special.  Also, that he was obsessed with Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young.  Nothing was said about the Allmans, but when it gets down to it, you don't hear too many people saying anything negative about them.  I once had a girlfriend who didn't seem to like them at all.  But she seemed to be the exception to the rule.  She did cause me to miss two Allman Brothers concerts, though.  Something not to be joked about and something which I regret to this day.  With the second concert I made it to the parking lot as their were finishing their last song.  That's the closest I ever got to seeing the Allman Brothers.  By the time I got inside, the stage was empty.   

The Allmans were Southern Rock and yet they weren't. Just like Cream was and wasn't a hard rock band. There was always something more fundamentally musicianly to them than to, say, Lynyrd Skynrd, Marshall Tucker, Molly Hatchet, 38 Special, Outlaws, Charlie Daniels, Blackfoot ... There was more blues and jazz to the Allmans than to the rest put together though Dickie Betts brought in a more country'ish influence over time. The Allmans were also never identified with a Grand Old South agenda/image (just like Tom Petty, Don Felder and Don Henley, all of them Southerners, never were), the fact that they had black players in their line ups was no coincidence if you ask me. Can you imagine a black player with Lynyrd Skynyrd or Molly Hatchet?

Only mildly related, but I never knew Primus did this, the vid is a riot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2020, 11:24:28 AM
The Allmans were Southern Rock and yet they weren't. Just like Cream was and wasn't a hard rock band. There was always something more fundamentally musicianly to them than to, say, Lynyrd Skynrd, Marshall Tucker, Molly Hatchet, 38 Special, Outlaws, Charlie Daniels, Blackfoot ... There was more blues and jazz to the Allmans than to the rest put together though Dickie Betts brought in a more country'ish influence over time. The Allmans were also never identified with a Grand Old South agenda/image (just like Tom Petty, Don Felder and Don Henley, all of them Southerners, never were), the fact that they had black players in their line ups was no coincidence if you ask me. Can you imagine a black player with Lynyrd Skynyrd or Molly Hatchet?

Only mildly related, but I never knew Primus did this, the vid is a riot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w

The Allman Brothers didn't want to be called Southern rock.  I'm not sure exactly why, except I'm sure they knew their music went way beyond that.  By their time period, though, a major shift had taken place among many young people in the South.  Racism was something more for older people.  There were exceptions, but this is the way things were in general.  Showtime released a documentary in 2015 which provided some good examples of this. It was the Atlanta Pop Festival (1970) mostly showing the reaction to Hendrix.  The audience loved him.  It also provided some info contrasting the audience to the racist governor at that time.  It was like a clash of generations going on.  Now, of course, that younger generation of the 60s and 70s is the older generation of today.  Something which I feel people don't always acknowledge when they start trying to stereotype the South. 

BTW, that Primus video is hilarious. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 26, 2020, 12:49:48 PM
I like it!

"Performed by:

Festus Clamrod
and
The El Sobrante Twangers"

I looked it  up, and El Sobrante is a "census-designated place" in Contra Costa County, California, United States. The population was 12,669 at the 2010 census.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 26, 2020, 01:59:34 PM
Been listening to these guys a lot last few days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo2unAvCg2o

Going to see them live in a month
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 26, 2020, 02:11:39 PM
Rob, I have to make amends! Listened to Bad Reputation (the album) a couple of times. It's real nice (especially the ballady stuff - appeals to a wuss like me), good melodic songwriting. For the record: Downey's bass drum work on Bad Reputation (the song) is great.

The songs Bad Reputation, Southbound and Dancing in the Moonlight are quite strong.
Too bad Robbo didn't really contribute on this album(except for the two solos).

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2020, 03:28:37 PM
Anything from the Nuclear Blast label is always reliably and refreshingly dumb. Which is why I buy it ardently.

Young women from mostly Switzerland getting together to wrinkle noses and play homely multi-harmony folk music with a country tinge. The singer, needless to say, is Kate Middleton Dutch. 90% of all heavy metal female vocalists are. Those who aren't just deny their origins, don't be fooled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shbmA2WMHRw

Her predecessor(ess), likewise blonde, söünded more Tshörman, doro you think sö?, but was in fact Swiss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OCmwMFKDlE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 27, 2020, 08:41:19 AM
Amanda Palmer just put an album together to help with the devastation from fires in Australia. She's a very interesting artist who used to have a band with just her and a drummer called the Dresden Dolls. Very manic and passionate in her delivery. My daughter is way into her. She has possibly had more success than any other artist in the world of crowd funding. Here's one of a couple of Midnight Oil covers on the new record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeaNFtk-iDk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2020, 05:11:25 PM
Ah, the late Kelly Johnson ...

Like Farrah Fawcett playing a Goldtop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNWo93fPG8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2020, 05:32:55 PM
Bought a five CD box of "Eric Burdon & The Animals" (not the original Animals line up, but more adventurous). It's a treasure trove, I wasn't really acquainted with the second phase of the Animals, the obvious hits excepted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs_FYcF5o3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKXTWHogIqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1QyTrQ9jQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyCksTQa5Vs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 29, 2020, 10:16:39 AM
I hadn't thought about San Franciscan Nights or Sky Pilot for years!  LOVE those numbers!

Sky Pilot is a perfect example of really well done Vietnam War protest tunes.  I've never seen that CBC broadcast version before...quite a bit of backup orchestration behind it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 29, 2020, 10:52:12 AM
Eric Burdon's unusually good voice has always stood out.  He may not be big, but his voice certainly is. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 29, 2020, 11:00:18 PM
Audio and video start together and get slightly out of sync by the end, but still, a Dave Edmunds video is always good.

https://youtu.be/ia6TgZACY78
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 01, 2020, 09:00:58 PM
This was a jam session before the Bangladesh concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMH58VDxBUI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 02, 2020, 02:00:04 PM
I posted about these guys in the Gibson group, but at this point it belongs here as well. Waiting on some CDs from Japan, but YouTube has tone of stuff too. Not only is this bassist a gear hound, he's really good. I wish I could play like him and not just sound busy. I need to better learn my fretboard.

And I can't believe some enterprising music exec didn't bring these guys to the U.S. With no changes whatsoever (still singing in Japanese), I think they would have been huge in the rock world. They're great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFW6YvV7Et4&list=PLd0H-IcdnCAdE_NxJTiTp0J4G9M_vfbBX&index=3
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on March 02, 2020, 11:47:23 PM
I posted about these guys in the Gibson group, but at this point it belongs here as well. Waiting on some CDs from Japan, but YouTube has tone of stuff too. Not only is this bassist a gear hound, he's really good. I wish I could play like him and not just sound busy. I need to better learn my fretboard.

And I can't believe some enterprising music exes didn't bring these guys to the U.S. With no changes whatsoever (still singing in Japanese), I think they would have been huge in the rock world. They're great!

Lots of great 'all over the place' bass playing in Japanese music. I follow a couple of Japanese Gibson bass players on insta, lots of great axes!
Here's a blast from the past- great, fluid bass playing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rPUk8L50kg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2020, 06:37:00 AM
I posted about these guys in the Gibson group, but at this point it belongs here as well. Waiting on some CDs from Japan, but YouTube has tone of stuff too. Not only is this bassist a gear hound, he's really good. I wish I could play like him and not just sound busy. I need to better learn my fretboard.

And I can't believe some enterprising music exec didn't bring these guys to the U.S. With no changes whatsoever (still singing in Japanese), I think they would have been huge in the rock world. They're great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFW6YvV7Et4&list=PLd0H-IcdnCAdE_NxJTiTp0J4G9M_vfbBX&index=3

Where were you? These guys were lauded here already years ago (which had me buy a 2 CD anthology from them, "Mother of All the Best").

Tune in next week when Herr Carlston introduces to the world a little-known band from an English harbor town with a name that sounds like insects ...  :mrgreen:

I believe that singing in Japanese is deemed as a commercial coffin nail in the West. And these guys just wouldn't switch - all credit to them.

I can btw very well understand their appeal to you: They sound like a rising sun Cheap Trick! The way the singer constructs his vocal lines and the songwriting owe a lot to Cheap Trick. They are essentially a - very good - power pop band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2020, 09:34:46 AM
Get your plaid shirts out, new Gallagher live album imminent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoW--ze-MRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pJHkIeX-dI

From the legendary 1974 Irish Tour - when no large act would tour Northern Ireland, but Rory did. I always liked the line up with keyboardsmith Lou Martin and drummer Rod  de'Ath best. Lou gave Rory's music more color and refinement. Rod was less conventional a drummer than either his predecessor or his immediate successor Ted McKenna (by that time, Rory was looking for a more basic drum sound, see the "Sex Pistols Incident" below).

Gallagher's bass guitarist Gerry McAvoy stated that de'Ath "was the most undrummer-like drummer I ever played with. His technique was so strange that it added a whole new dimension to Rory's sound."

They are also on the new release (their last tour with him, reverting to trio format after having seen the Sex Pistols live, he would ditch them after the aborted Notes from San Francisco recordings which only saw a release decades later).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkleKuAshLA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 03, 2020, 12:00:48 PM

I can btw very well understand their appeal to you: They sound like a rising sun Cheap Trick! The way the singer constructs his vocal lines and the songwriting owe a lot to Cheap Trick. They are essentially a - very good - power pop band.

I said elsewhere that watching their early live videos makes me feel like it's 1981 and I'm seeing them at the Whisky with Motley Crue (who displayed a lot more Cheap Trick-like sensibilities before Nikki decided to shout at any devils).

I know bands that sang in their (non-English) native language rarely if ever got any notice here, but I'm positive these guys would have done just fine with the rock crowd in either the 80s or 90s. Watching their videos, it's interesting to see how they weaved both decades into their sound. To my ears (and excepting the language of the vocals), they sound very 80s-90s, American, glam rock/power pop (which, of course, owes a lot to Bowie, Slade, the Sweet, T-Rex, etc.), and I've loved that stuff since I first was aware of the genres.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 08, 2020, 08:54:48 PM
https://youtu.be/l-oaZ2Ly7TA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 09, 2020, 03:34:20 AM
George Harrison.  With Eric Clapton, Carl Radle and others. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmo8L7NlURQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoUIryN1tM4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 09:10:19 AM
George Harrison.  With Eric Clapton, Carl Radle and others. 

Also guest-starring: Phil Spector's echo chamber-ber-ber-ber-ber of dread-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d!

(https://miro.medium.com/max/750/1*phyURx2pCUQs7PpsJ4WKFw.jpeg)

That album should have come with a free pack of Tylenol, twice the strength of Advil (and I'm not complaining about the music).

He will be eligible for parole in 2025, just in time for a 55th anniversary Phil Spector remix of All Things Must Pass. Less liberal use of echo should be part of his probation conditions.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 09, 2020, 09:33:25 AM
Years later George Harrison regretted very much that Phil Spector had been involved.  But at the time it was happening, that was his preference. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 10:03:09 AM
Lana Clarkson probably shared that sentiment of regret in choosing Phil Spector too.

It's also something I share with Ike Turner, the dislike for Spector's overproduction.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 10:10:18 AM
I know I'm a douchebag, flamingos are excessively dumb birds and I don't even own a yacht (nor would I want one, I get seasick).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jhFReWopk8

Perennially uncool, but I've always dug it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 10:59:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGOVHOHbGw

This doesn't sound like Is It Love at all.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anCPi6ex0b8

I first noticed McAuley pre-MSG with these guys here and thought he had a voice. To Grand Prix' defense: They were three years ahead of Europe's Final Countdown with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62GNQ1h-W14&list=RD62GNQ1h-W14&start_radio=1&t=112

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=III4RvZanoI

Like any other Brit AOR band, they never went anywhere.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 09, 2020, 11:14:48 AM
Lana Clarkson probably shared that sentiment of regret in choosing Phil Spector too.

It's also something I share with Ike Turner, the dislike for Spector's overproduction.  ;D

Phil Spector was a mistake that can never be fully erased.  Regardless of exactly what happened with Lana Clarkson, nothing would have happened if Phil Spector hadn't been so careless with guns in the first place.  Also, as a fan of sci-fi B movies, I value Lana Clarkson's contribution to society more than Spector's.  And wall of sound be damned.  
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 03:09:53 PM
That River Deep Mountain High soundscape is a period piece, I give him credit for that. I guess Meatloaf and Todd Rundgren will forever be thankful.

But Let It Be is awful and what he did to Leonard Cohen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoknBw5iQlc

and the Ramones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH4XGRDJ0P4

was ingeniously flawed; he rendered both of them almost unrecognizable! ;D He really messed those two albums up like no one else could have. When both Leonard Cohen and the Ramones shared the commonality that they sounded so specific that all you needed to do was to get their music on tape with halfway decent sonics. There wasn't much to "produce" with them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 09, 2020, 03:32:23 PM
John Mendelsohn wrote in Rolling Stone that Spector managed to turn several of the Beatles best rough gems into costume jewelry. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2020, 06:50:26 PM
With increasing age, my always eclectic music tastes have led to great spells of utter indecision ...

This is high art, DBeep Purple branching out for new audience segments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNjVvJAiCw

Plus Michael Priest & Judas Jackson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiWXTKc7oGA

I always knew Rob had a dance floor side to him!

Last but not least: Kevin & The Gang!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OewLpY6gVd4

PS: Let's not forget Motörbröwn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1cUIXVWaV8

PPS: The guy who does this stuff (Bill McClintock) really has a musical ear, respect, we are not worthy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uzWkJByjCc

Given Rodger's and Fraser's soul leanings, I'm sure they would dig (have dug) this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOVi_UMyKFs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 09, 2020, 08:03:52 PM
5 Artists Reportedly Held at Gunpoint by Phil Spector (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/28392/5-artists-reportedly-held-gunpoint-phil-spector)

It wouldn't surprise me if there were more.

Teddy Bear Phil on guitar

https://youtu.be/vrwf-sIcr0M



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2020, 11:46:46 AM
Are you accusing me?

(https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/_45662763_spector_getty-gif.167051/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ssoBUb2cJk

Even as a strumming Teddy Bear he was a bit unsettling!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2020, 06:39:52 PM
I'm probably in a minority of one, but I thought what Vai and Townsend did in 1993 brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbiQNM0HrrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twi28xWoLxc

It was like an extension to what he had done with Alcatrazz, David Lee Roth and Whitesnake had been steps back ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ztfjxlgor4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19Pu1KM3b4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 11, 2020, 06:59:31 AM
I'm probably in a minority of one, but I thought what Vai and Townsend did in 1993 brilliant

Agreed! I saw the tour in Chicago. And funny you should bring this up - I'm going to see Devin Townsend this Saturday. I'm actually more looking forward to opener Haken, but I've seen them a few times and have never seen Townsend solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8v_evgiS4&list=OLAK5uy_mgkHPkfiUG8S1GwHX2K2kZZx6pEOQc6o0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2020, 09:29:46 AM
You despicable PROG floozy!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 11, 2020, 12:25:41 PM
I would like to hear an "All Things Must Pass"  naked...Like "Let it Be" naked

Lety it Be is a fine album with all the shit removed. I imagine All Things Must Pass is also.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
I dunno, the much heralded Naked sounded like a bunch of demos to me, an unpolished turd (if only by the standards The Beatles had set themselves). It wasn't all Spector's fault, the Fab Four just weren't inspired on that one. They made good with Abbey Road though.

Widely derided as a Yoko Ono money making scheme, I did like the Stripped Down version of Double Fantasy though, it's like having John Lennon in your living room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGOeNWEAEGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKamkKJ9J5Y

It's kind of weird to think that he was murdered only 10 years after The Beatles disbanded and that is now already 40 years ago! What a loss.  :-\ Something in me still hopes that the lefty-libby John wouldn't speak out against the - supervised - parole release of his assassin today (the man was seriously sick), something the still grief-struck Yoko cannot bring over herself. Chapman was sentenced "20 years to life" for killing a man, not for robbing the world of a Beatle, grievous as it may have been  for all of us and of course foremost for the Lennon family.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 11, 2020, 03:23:13 PM
I agree Let It BE naked doesn't sound good, either.  But I also don't like "Starting Over" or "Watching the Wheels" in any version, especially not the latter.  One of Lennon's worst songs, IMO.  However, despite the fact that Spector was involved, I liked John Lennon's "Rock 'n Roll" album.  I listened to that many times on cassette while walking not far away from a Lake Pontchartrain levee (years before Katrina.)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 11, 2020, 05:37:56 PM
Let it Be naked didn't sound that good as is, but it could hardly be worse than the Phil Spector production. I hated just about everything he did.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 11, 2020, 06:53:20 PM
Hey now Dave, nobody puts “be my baby” in the corner!
Phil went off the deep end and it’s just a sad situation for all involved. He still made some good records either way. Who knows what horrible things other producers did that we just don’t know about because they simply never got caught. If we knew everything shady that people in the music business did, I’m guessing there would be much less to listen to if the basis of quality was held against some kind of morality litmus test.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 11, 2020, 07:02:07 PM
The quote by Hunter S. Thompson comes to mind.

“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.”
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 12, 2020, 07:02:52 AM
Hey now Dave, nobody puts “be my baby” in the corner!
Phil went off the deep end and it’s just a sad situation for all involved. He still made some good records either way. Who knows what horrible things other producers did that we just don’t know about because they simply never got caught. If we knew everything shady that people in the music business did, I’m guessing there would be much less to listen to if the basis of quality was held against some kind of morality litmus test.

I do. Be My Baby is pure early 60s schlock. I guess you could say he excelled at that. For good pop from that era, Gerry Goffin and Carole King had him beat by miles. I detested his music long before his legal troubles.

The quote by Hunter S. Thompson comes to mind.

“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.”

That's such a great quote! But he actually said it about television.

See Understanding "Where Thieves and Pimps Run Free" (https://www.liveabout.com/where-thieves-and-pimps-run-free-3299166), in the section Source of the Quote.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 12, 2020, 07:45:19 AM
His credits are massive. Over 450 production credits according to discogs. Schlock or not, he was successful.  In case you didn't catch it, that was a loosely based quote from the movie dirty dancing which also featured the Ronettes most famous tune.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 12, 2020, 08:05:06 AM
You despicable PROG floozy!

 ;D
How about some brand new Steven Wilson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_H0NO-Cyew&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3XnUWEXKWVoQE8eaQkfzKwrcqtSdZMr-wWWq1v4m58kHN5yIzi0kz84Yc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 08:25:33 AM
Danke.

Now I'm depressed again.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/26ufcMjwXjpTHNG1i/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 08:27:10 AM
"Be My Baby is pure early 60s schlock."

Ah, Dave, ever the word-mincer, relativist and suave diplomat. If you can't say something not nice, don't say anything at all! :rimshot: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 12, 2020, 08:33:05 AM
I do. Be My Baby is pure early 60s schlock. I guess you could say he excelled at that.

Reminds me of a friend who reads as much popular light fiction as I do. He calls it "dreck." I often ask him "are you reading any good dreck?"  That's the stuff that's entertaining and well-written, even if it's dreck.

You see, there's good dreck and bad dreck. Mickey Spillane is really good dreck. Lee Child's Jack Reacher stuff is pretty decent dreck.  OTOH, there's a lot of bad dreck out there that's not worth reading, even for sheer escapism.

I'd say that Be My Baby is good schlock. There's a place in the world for good schlock; it's fun to listen to and often creates ear worms. Much of Spector's stuff seems like good schlock to me.  Beats the hell out of Billie Eilish.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 08:42:24 AM
May I venture the thought that without Be My Baby there would have perhaps been no Born To Run? ("So much the better!" I can hear Dave barking in the background.  :) ) Or a few other classix ... It's a type of production that belongs to pop history, even if I agree that it can only be consumed in small doses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0My2AqPFpFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJPc7esgvsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wO8toxinoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpKs_dt9KEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyJHh451Y4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsNy4NoZUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbZQyG9qkLQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpxsMyoXUZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJVcHolsqU



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 12, 2020, 09:13:53 AM
Danke.

Now I'm depressed again.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/26ufcMjwXjpTHNG1i/giphy.gif)

I hear you. The world is in a tough spot at the moment. This captures the mood well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0D81F-IsqE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 12, 2020, 12:09:59 PM
gotta admit...we still play "Be My Baby"...people pay money to hear it...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 12, 2020, 02:30:24 PM
I do. Be My Baby is pure early 60s schlock. I guess you could say he excelled at that. For good pop from that era, Gerry Goffin and Carole King had him beat by miles. I detested his music long before his legal troubles.

That's such a great quote! But he actually said it about television.

See Understanding "Where Thieves and Pimps Run Free" (https://www.liveabout.com/where-thieves-and-pimps-run-free-3299166), in the section Source of the Quote.

Well, I think Abraham Lincoln has already warned us to not believe everything we read on the Internet.  LOL.  But there are several quotes out there that never seem to get settled.  Like Mark Twain supposedly saying "a lie can get halfway round the world before the truth gets a chance to put its boots on."  It's a great quote, bur I doubt if Twain said it. 

Another one is the common myth that Hendrix said, for example, that one guitarist or another was the world's greatest.  The fact is he never said that to my knowledge.  But plenty of people seem to think he did.  There are many variations to this which I think is just an urban myth or myths. 

One of my favorites is the quote "if you're going to tell people the truth, make sure that you make them laugh.  Otherwise, they'll try to kill you.  Probably Oscar Wilde or George Bernard Shaw said that, but no one knows for sure.  The fact of the matter is if you're really serious about getting to the heart of something it's better to go beyond the Internet if possible.  I'm not a big believer in Internet reliability. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 12, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
His credits are massive. Over 450 production credits according to discogs. Schlock or not, he was successful.  In case you didn't catch it, that was a loosely based quote from the movie dirty dancing which also featured the Ronettes most famous tune.

What's your point? Britney Spears has sold more than 150 million records. She's more successful than Phil Spector. Does that make her a high quality artist?

I like what I like regardless of popularity. And I don't like Phil Spector's productions. While I'm at it, I don't like most Motown either.

Anyway, here's what I'm listening to today, thanks to a FB friend who posted it.

https://youtu.be/XofP0TqUHnk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 03:17:44 PM
"While I'm at it, I don't like most Motown either."

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/MJfzoh4nidPsk/giphy.gif)

Sigh, I was all the while fearing that utterance of his. :rolleyes: I  just so knew it was coming. :-\  We've been married for a while, you know.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/oyFyFiXz0hrnG/giphy.gif)

Man ... that ... just ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOBN4k60JA

On a more positive side, Dave has a keen eye for musical youth!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuqDuGHMJSk

Well, not all musical youth ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzybwwf2HoQ

Yet, big-hearted as he is, talent is international for him, especially of the nose wrinkly kind! Not real country though ... well, Soviet country ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmh9TDuLU5g


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 12, 2020, 03:31:38 PM
I don't like a lot of Motown, either.  Sick of it!  I had to listen to that endlessly as a teenager when I was around people who only wanted to listen to that.  I've been free of Motown a long time now, thank God. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 03:55:04 PM
I just luv my Motown and all it spawned!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6rwMG4WM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyT9jTW7MHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDA-CBxiKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3SOwdxzII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

I first heard Celebration in 1981

- in Deeetroit (ok, it might have been Deeearborn)

- at a Polish-American wedding

- in a Polish-American WWII Veterans Club.

Talk about a cultural and generational melting pot as people who had been around WW II plus their children and grandchildren polonaised to it without flinching! And yes, the handful of black couples that were there, were the best dancers that night.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 12, 2020, 04:02:21 PM
Well, believe me, a whole lot of people like Motown, but I'm not one of them. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 12, 2020, 05:23:38 PM
Indeed, popularity is not always an indication of quality. I don’t think Britney is a fair comparison to Phil. I would say her producer had to have a degree of competence to make recordings that could sell as well as they did. I’d be surprised if as many people listen to Miss Spears in 50 years compared to how many people still listen to the Righteous Bros.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 05:55:14 PM
The only commonality I see that they both are not quite responsible for their actions. Phil's dad is dead though, so he can't take care of him anymore.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 12, 2020, 06:02:07 PM
I spent a lot of time listening to the Supremes' Greatest Hits double album. Fantastic group, wonderful production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGJQPkfwlAc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 06:32:32 PM
Man, I miss Weiland. I thought as a frontman chameleon he was head and shoulders above Axl (who sounds and acts samey to me) and I liked how he used his voice in a way that did not always conform with the hard rock rule book. Ok, the SS officer cap - cool as it looked - wasn't the most tasteful choice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKbmFM54CLI

He switched from SS to Red Army later on, no doubt an improvement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Q2IARJbSk


Dug his solo stuff too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrXyzGvpuxA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2020, 06:40:28 PM
Old gal Tarja gets a listen too. Is she old enough to even remember Rollerball from her older siblings? Or did some cineastic director talk her into it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSe6eub_eo


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 12, 2020, 09:54:40 PM
Well, I think Abraham Lincoln has already warned us to not believe everything we read on the Internet.  LOL. 

I suppose next you'll tell me that this is photoshopped.  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/wysuJHE.jpg)



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 12, 2020, 09:58:59 PM
 ;D LOL!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 13, 2020, 02:10:51 AM
Just one example among many of what I'd rather be listening to than Motown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3kdRGZHDLc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on March 13, 2020, 05:04:52 AM
LMAO I thought that it said Milton Berle. . . need coffee.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 13, 2020, 06:02:32 AM
Motown will teach you how to be a better player. Fewer notes, all dropped in exactly the right place.

Play the pocket. It's almost like meditation.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 13, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
LMAO I thought that it said Milton Berle. . . need coffee.

You'll have to go here to find Milton Berle. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8teXR8VE4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on March 13, 2020, 01:59:57 PM


More than a little creepy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dWvTCdDQ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dWvTCdDQ4)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2020, 03:03:17 PM
This kind of fits currently ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJxS1Bpnkl4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 13, 2020, 03:45:31 PM
Yes, that song does capture our zeitgeist to a tee.  I have a friend who has just fled to a small island.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 13, 2020, 08:28:33 PM
It's Frizzell Friday

https://youtu.be/uCjEh788kBQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 15, 2020, 12:51:54 PM
Everything is coming to a halt over here.
Concert venues, bars, theaters, coffeeshops, restaurants, schools, everything is closed until april 6.

But already lots of online perfomances are being streamed and /or shared.
Like this one from TheWolff and their support The Grand East

https://www.facebook.com/muziekgieterij/videos/242577740236037/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2020, 11:40:44 AM
I'm not seeing much on live streaming in the U.S. except for the Dropkick Murphys on St. Patrick's Day. 

https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/16/dropkick-murphys-live-stream-concert-coronavirus/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2020, 03:26:13 PM
Apparently, the deplorable global public health circumstances have made me realize that I need to do better than the just one or two Kool & The Gang Greatest Hits compilations I so far had - I've bought their full back catalog as far as it features their chocolate-vanilla crooner J.T. Taylor, all eight albums or so. The disco virus has infected me rather belatedly! (My wife: "This is so incredibly cheesy!") But even back in the day, Taylor's smooth voice and Robert "Kool" Bell's catchy bass lines attracted me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLnUJQut-kc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ1XwGDcA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsklsxReSe0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qchPLaiKocI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37GihMpoc24
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2020, 07:26:36 PM
Saturday afternoon on American Bandstand with the Gap Band.  One of my favorite songs.  I've heard this song is sometimes played at sporting events.  But I rarely pay attention to any sports and don't think of it in that context. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiLrJBHiSzM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 16, 2020, 09:05:03 PM
https://youtu.be/jbzZ8n3k_pI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 16, 2020, 10:21:58 PM
Loved Revere and the Raiders!  Kicks, The Great Airplane Strike,  Steppin' Out, Louie Louie, Just Like Me, Kicks, Hungry, and I even liked the Legend of Paul Revere which described him as working in a burger joint in Idaho.

I saw him live in Lake Tahoe, and he was playing the same Mustang-front keyboard that night. That guy's music really stomped!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 17, 2020, 03:41:24 PM
Loved Revere and the Raiders!  Kicks, The Great Airplane Strike,  Steppin' Out, Louie Louie, Just Like Me, Kicks, Hungry, and I even liked the Legend of Paul Revere which described him as working in a burger joint in Idaho.

I saw him live in Lake Tahoe, and he was playing the same Mustang-front keyboard that night. That guy's music really stomped!

I think you have to be around our age to appreciate how big they were in the 60s, and they were all over TV. They always put on a show, outfits, choreographed moves and all.

Original lineup on Hollywood Palace, The Great Airplane Strike, introduced by Ray Bolger(!)

Fang had some excellent bass lines.

https://youtu.be/Xmv6lPfnocs

Who can forget the time they performed at a campaign rally for the Penguin.  ;D

https://youtu.be/SrmAs4rkRi8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 17, 2020, 04:18:48 PM
I have always thought the bass line from The Great Airplane Strike was one of the best in that era.  it really captures your ears. 

That has to be a Hofner that he's playing, isn't it?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 17, 2020, 07:36:33 PM
I have always thought the bass line from The Great Airplane Strike was one of the best in that era.  it really capture your ear. 

That has to be a Hofner that he's playing, isn't it?

Yes, Höfner 500/2 Club Bass
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 17, 2020, 08:49:27 PM
If you scroll down, there are two pics of him with the Hofner, including a shot of their appearance on the Smothers Brothers. 

http://www.philfangvolk.com/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 18, 2020, 09:05:56 AM
If you scroll down, there are two pics of him with the Hofner, including a shot of their appearance on the Smothers Brothers. 

http://www.philfangvolk.com/

Yup, and I see his paddle-headstock Vox bass in a photo, too. 

Here's one of their all-time best: Steppin' Out. It's all lip-synced with the Vox bass and Raider hijinks.  One thing I like a lot is the double-time verse in the middle of the tune and in the extro..  Kind of an unusual idea in 60's music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99TqCD_j6Q

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 18, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
The Raiders are still touring with a new singer named David Huizenga who I've crossed paths with on the local scene. I actually sold them a case for the Mustang front clip 9 years ago while Paul was still alive.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 18, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
For Uwe

Judas Priest live in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq9g_UAIk6E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 18, 2020, 02:30:29 PM
I really like this song.  I've been listening to it a lot lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXjSlwvicc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 18, 2020, 05:20:24 PM
For Uwe

Judas Priest live in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq9g_UAIk6E

How you spoil me, Holländer! I remember seeing them on the German leg of that particular tour in a small hall near Frankfurt, only the second time I had seen them at all (first time was as openers for AC/DC),  they still had that youthful exuberance back then and I was so close upfront, I could marvel at Halford's small tear in his spandex catsuit all night! A memorable gig for musical reasons too.

Priest raise the most primal instincts in me, their brand of escapism hits home with me like no other band, though they are often a bit on the corny side. I find Maiden cluttered, Saxon a bit dumbed down (though entertaining) and AC/DC way too dumbed down (not entertaining after circa the third song), but Priest is to me like watching a Hellraiser horror movie: You know it ain't art, but it just feels so good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 18, 2020, 06:23:13 PM
For Uwe

Judas Priest live in 1981


That was the first tour I saw them on as well. In Southern CA, where I grew up, I think in the Long Beach Arena. Saw them regularly over the next few years, along with other touring staples of the time; Scorpions, Van Halen, UFO, Iron Maiden, KISS, etc., etc. (with all the early 80s Hollywood bands as they hit the arena circuit as well). Good times...

Only a couple years before, Priest played a little club in Hollywood, called the Starwood. I was aware of the club but had no older friends or siblings that could/would take me. Blast it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 18, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
Yup, and I see his paddle-headstock Vox bass in a photo, too. 

Here's one of their all-time best: Steppin' Out. It's all lip-synced with the Vox bass and Raider hijinks.  One thing I like a lot is the double-time verse in the middle of the tune and in the extro..  Kind of an unusual idea in 60's music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99TqCD_j6Q

Then there's this one, Michael Landon and a parrot in the outro. And the dancers, of course.

https://youtu.be/1lohb-4Gc-I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 18, 2020, 06:40:51 PM
Great period piece with the go-go dancers, etc.  I saw that one before posting the other, but it's enough fun that I watched it again.

Fang has a different bass in that one; the headstock shot about 2:25 looks familiar, but I can't bring the brand to mind.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 18, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
I thought the dancers on "Where The Action Is" were one of the more interesting aspects of the show.  I'm having a hard time finding much on You Tube.  Maybe it has to do with copyright issues.  This is the closest I could come to it, but this really isn't what I was looking for. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SM7Mp195u4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 19, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
Great period piece with the go-go dancers, etc.  I saw that one before posting the other, but it's enough fun that I watched it again.

Fang has a different bass in that one; the headstock shot about 2:25 looks familiar, but I can't bring the brand to mind.

Looks like an Epi Newport.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 19, 2020, 07:39:42 PM
Today's earworm, posted on FB by a local friend.

https://youtu.be/-iD2Dm6BMDg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 20, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
Looks like an Epi Newport.

T-bird pups = Embassy
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 20, 2020, 08:15:20 PM
T-bird pups = Embassy

Right. I should have known that, we discussed it recently here (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=11302.0) and probably earlier.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 22, 2020, 04:16:46 PM
You know you're old when you remember that you were a young adult when this came out and you realize that it's 50 years old.

Recorded at Motown 1970, one of their first attempts at the white pop and rock market.

Maybe Bob Babbitt on bass?

https://youtu.be/cRWuwrjiEeM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2020, 01:12:44 AM
^^^
Noel Redding's band "Road" recorded their only album on one of Motown's subdivisions.  I think  it was called Natural Resources/Rare Earth.  I think it was a project doomed for failure.  Motown at that time was too busy with other things.  Noel said the Motown secretaries treated their agent like he was a bill collector.  He called the album their Motown stillborn album.  Noel was only able to get out of the contract with Motown by giving up his royalties.  But he said their real problem was the same as a lot of other bands: their vocals just weren't good enough.  His certainly weren't.  His voice sounded like a cross between Bob Dylan and a poor man's John Lennon.  Rod Richards the guitarist/vocalist was better.  But Noel didn't think either one of them was up to par.  For a while, Richards kept saying they were going to be rock stars.  Noel said they weren't--that their own record company wouldn't even put them on tour.  BTW, the album was recorded in four days with everyone on cocaine. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfxq60u0Cw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on March 23, 2020, 12:17:20 PM
I really have no idea how I managed to grow up knowing every note Gong ever played, and yet the genius of Soft Machine never dawned on me until not long ago, 40 years too late. But I'm so glad that it finally did. Now I'm immersed in Soft Machine.

https://youtu.be/4RwLgA9U_3I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2020, 02:01:02 PM
^^^
Soft Machine and Jimi Hendrix had the same management and toured together in 1968.  I've read nothing but positive reviews for Soft Machine.  Somewhere there is a demo of Hendrix playing bass on a Robert Wyatt song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on March 23, 2020, 02:36:03 PM
I have the third through maybe 6 or 7 Soft Machine Albums...

Used to have 1 and 2, also...always interesting musically...

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2020, 09:06:22 PM
^^^
Noel Redding's band "Road" recorded their only album on one of Motown's subdivisions.  I think  it was called Natural Resources/Rare Earth.  I think it was a project doomed for failure.  Motown at that time was too busy with other things.  Noel said the Motown secretaries treated their agent like he was a bill collector.  He called the album their Motown stillborn album.  Noel was only able to get out of the contract with Motown by giving up his royalties.  But he said their real problem was the same as a lot of other bands: their vocals just weren't good enough.  His certainly weren't.  His voice sounded like a cross between Bob Dylan and a poor man's John Lennon.  Rod Richards the guitarist/vocalist was better.  But Noel didn't think either one of them was up to par.  For a while, Richards kept saying they were going to be rock stars.  Noel said they weren't--that their own record company wouldn't even put them on tour.  BTW, the album was recorded in four days with everyone on cocaine. 


It was on the Rare Earth label. Indiana Wants Me was also on Rare Earth, one of the early singles. And of course the band Rare Earth.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2020, 09:08:03 PM
https://youtu.be/aMhh0shi_Jg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2020, 09:56:35 PM
It was on the Rare Earth label. Indiana Wants Me was also on Rare Earth, one of the early singles. And of course the band Rare Earth.

I tried looking up all this one time.  It was years ago.  Now I can't find all the sources I looked at.  Noel's book has some info, but not all of it.  Rod Richards himself had been in Rare Earth the band.  He had artistic differences and left in 1971.  Maybe he was really wanting to play hard rock like what's on the Road album.  As for that Natural Resources name, I think I saw that somewhere.  It was supposedly another division of Rare Earth (the label) but I really don't know.  That's not really clear to me. 

I remember it was kind of hard to find all this info.  I have no idea where it is now.  But I do remember Rod Richards moved to Panama years ago and has made a life for himself there.  As far as I know, still playing music. 

After Road, Noel and the drummer Les Sampson had a band in Ireland for a while.  Eric Bell was the guitarist.  Bell thought they were going to be playing the same kind of music as Road had played.  But it turned out to be something completely different.  Their singer Dave Clark (not THE Dave Clark) did well, but to me his voice just didn't quite fit the genre.  If that's Noel Redding actually playing on that final album which was never officially released, his bass playing had become quite different.  I just have some doubts it's really him, but on the other hand, it could have been.  The album was the third one and was called "The Missing Album."  It finally became available 20 years after the band broke up. 

I listened to part of that Missing album again.  I think I understand why it wasn't released.  That Road album was better. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on March 24, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
Somewhere there is a demo of Hendrix playing bass on a Robert Wyatt song.

That's a flipped righty-strung bass, and this was Jimi's first and only take after listening to the song a couple of times.

https://youtu.be/JgX06hNS7ZM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 24, 2020, 03:54:51 PM
That's a flipped righty-strung bass, and this was Jimi's first and only take after listening to the song a couple of times.

https://youtu.be/JgX06hNS7ZM

I bet there are even some die-hard Hendrix fans who don't know about that.  I've met some, though, who seem to know everything. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 24, 2020, 07:54:36 PM
I tried looking up all this one time.  It was years ago.  Now I can't find all the sources I looked at.  Noel's book has some info, but not all of it.  Rod Richards himself had been in Rare Earth the band.  He had artistic differences and left in 1971.  Maybe he was really wanting to play hard rock like what's on the Road album.  As for that Natural Resources name, I think I saw that somewhere.  It was supposedly another division of Rare Earth (the label) but I really don't know.  That's not really clear to me. 

I remember it was kind of hard to find all this info.  I have no idea where it is now.  But I do remember Rod Richards moved to Panama years ago and has made a life for himself there.  As far as I know, still playing music. 

After Road, Noel and the drummer Les Sampson had a band in Ireland for a while.  Eric Bell was the guitarist.  Bell thought they were going to be playing the same kind of music as Road had played.  But it turned out to be something completely different.  Their singer Dave Clark (not THE Dave Clark) did well, but to me his voice just didn't quite fit the genre.  If that's Noel Redding actually playing on that final album which was never officially released, his bass playing had become quite different.  I just have some doubts it's really him, but on the other hand, it could have been.  The album was the third one and was called "The Missing Album."  It finally became available 20 years after the band broke up. 

I listened to part of that Missing album again.  I think I understand why it wasn't released.  That Road album was better.

Turns out it was issued under severl labels, depending on where it was released

It's about halfway down this page https://www.discogs.com/label/35793-Rare-Earth?page=1 . A couple of clicks leads to this https://www.discogs.com/Road-Road/master/333637
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 24, 2020, 09:55:35 PM
Turns out it was issued under severl labels, depending on where it was released

It's about halfway down this page https://www.discogs.com/label/35793-Rare-Earth?page=1 . A couple of clicks leads to this https://www.discogs.com/Road-Road/master/333637

That makes total sense.  Nowadays I think most of the people interested in this are people simply looking for obscure examples of early 70s hard rock. 
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Post by: ilan on March 25, 2020, 07:07:51 AM
I bet there are even some die-hard Hendrix fans who don't know about that.  I've met some, though, who seem to know everything.

Thanks... Source: Electric Gypsy by Harry Shapiro and Caesar Glebbeek, 1992 edition, discography appendix.

Robert Wyatt: 'It's a kind of Mose Allison kind of thing, Jimi came in and listened and whispered, "I could try the bass line on that, you wouldn't have to use it". And he got Noel's bass, and you have to remember he's left handed, so he's playing bass the wrong way around. Puts down the first take, a f***ing Larry Graham bass line. Heard it once, including the changes, the breaks and all that, and it was staggering.'


I'm attaching a pic of Jimi from another session (Noel on guitar) with a flipped-over righty-strung P bass.
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Post by: westen44 on March 25, 2020, 11:02:16 AM
That's all very cool.  That "Electric Gypsy" book is considered by many to be the definitive work on Hendrix.  I have a copy, but it has been years since I read it.  BTW, for a while when they were still on good terms Jimi and Noel would drop in and sit in with bands.  Just do it on the spot.  Jimi found it relaxing.  Noel would play guitar and Jimi would play bass. 
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Post by: Rob on March 25, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
^^^
Soft Machine and Jimi Hendrix had the same management and toured together in 1968.  I've read nothing but positive reviews for Soft Machine.  Somewhere there is a demo of Hendrix playing bass on a Robert Wyatt song.

I saw that tour in Chicago at the civic opera house.   I was at the first of 2 shows that day and honestly nothing positive about either act.
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Post by: westen44 on March 25, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
I saw that tour in Chicago at the civic opera house.   I was at the first of 2 shows that day and honestly nothing positive about either act.

Hendrix always had plenty of critics even from the beginning.  There is also the fact that he didn't like going on long tours.  No doubt many of his live performances were less than stellar.  One thing I never want to do anymore, though, is to get into "discussions" over which phases of his career were the best.  I've been around people who demand that your views on that be just the same as theirs or you're an enemy.  I'm not exaggerating.  It's why I had to leave a Hendrix-focused forum long ago.  Too many fireworks.  I was only interested in music, not wanting to get into totally unnecessary arguments that could never be proven one way or another anyway. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2020, 05:32:54 PM
If Motown couldn't help Noel, it sure wasn't down to his complexion - they supported Rare Earth (the band) well and were proud to have a white band in their stable. Of course, Rare Earth had strong vocals und on a sub-label of Motown I'd imagine that the very least they expected you to have was a good voice, they were spoiled for good voices from their other acts.

I'm a great fan of Rare Earth, have all their albums - a bit like Grand Funk Railroad, they have become unsung heroes over time. I remember being mesmerized by that live album (which still holds up well today). Culture Factory (the label) have re-released almost all their albums in recent years and the remastering is great.
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Post by: westen44 on March 25, 2020, 06:29:32 PM
If Motown couldn't help Noel, it sure wasn't down to his complexion - they supported Rare Earth (the band) well and were proud to have a white band in their stable. Of course, Rare Earth had strong vocals und on a sub-label of Motown I'd imagine that the very least they expected you to have was a good voice, they were spoiled for good voices from their other acts.

I'm a great fan of Rare Earth, have all their albums - a bit like Grand Funk Railroad, they have become unsung heroes over time. I remember being mesmerized by that live album (which still holds up well today). Culture Factory (the label) have re-released almost all their albums in recent years and the remastering is great.

I doubt if race was ever an issue with anyone.  Rod Richards (also known as Rod Cox) had been in Rare Earth for years. If race had been an issue with him, he wouldn't have got into another band signed by Motown after leaving Rare Earth.  As for "Road" I just get the impression that there must have been some shifting of priorities that took place after the band had been signed.  I don't think it was anything personal.  Noel didn't seem offended at all.  It seems he ultimately concluded that the band really wasn't good enough anyway.  He just wanted to go ahead and move on to the next thing.  Maybe he was selling the band short, maybe not.  Noel wasn't much of a lyricist, but he could write music.  Like that song "Ezy Ryder"  that Hendrix and Billy Cox made into such a good song.  Noel had written the main riff to that years earlier.  Speaking of race, I believe Jimi always appreciated that both Noel and Mitch were totally color blind when it came to that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9g6ngaWNAE



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 25, 2020, 06:33:37 PM
Some very different covers of Hendrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biSpkl4yhwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRHY6TC-KZU&list=RDYRHY6TC-KZU&start_radio=1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2020, 02:32:35 PM
https://youtu.be/o2pqf9SalBA
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Post by: Dave W on March 28, 2020, 08:39:09 PM
https://youtu.be/hPsQcB52V18
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Post by: Dave W on April 02, 2020, 09:41:50 PM
https://youtu.be/mnZVfLqjjMg
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Post by: Pilgrim on April 03, 2020, 10:23:18 AM
Woke up yesterday with this running through my head; not sure what prompted that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4WyO6TK424
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Post by: westen44 on April 03, 2020, 11:31:33 AM
https://youtu.be/mnZVfLqjjMg

Many years ago when I was usually working in other various states, I would come back occasionally to visit my relatives.  I remember time after time of them talking about going to Nashville to some kind of event they used to have where fans could go interact directly with the artists.  Over and over, I would hear them talk about Janie Fricke.  She must have made quite an impression.  The image I have of her is the same as what was on the album covers they brought back and what's on that video.  I just looked her up and she is 72 now.  Based just on what they told me, they were puzzled why she wasn't appreciated more.  Because it was pretty obvious that they loved her.  In person, she must have have had some kind of magnetic personality. 

This one isn't exactly country to me, but I like their version of this song, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcIAb2Rpxg
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Post by: Dave W on April 03, 2020, 06:43:45 PM
Janie is well loved and respected.
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Post by: westen44 on April 03, 2020, 09:46:53 PM
Janie is well loved and respected.

These relatives were used to being around country music stars.  Through work, living close to some of them or in one case being related to one of them.  But out of all those stories I heard, it was Janie Fricke who sounded like the most pleasant celebrity to be around.  Then, of course, there were also stars who were a pain in the ass.  I wish I could have gone on one of those trips.  They saw a lot of people.  I've remembered now what it was called.  It was Fan Fair.  They have something similar to it called CMA Fest, but of course it has already been cancelled this year. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CWod8yRSP0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KysyZO3BZv4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJg25WTXPQE
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Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on April 04, 2020, 01:30:21 AM
Janie had a house near my hometown in the 70's-80's. She was famous around town for being a nice lady and having a gorgeous house. I had gym class with her guitar player's daughter in high school.  Her white cotton shorts... I LOVED that gym class!
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Post by: Basvarken on April 04, 2020, 03:22:39 AM
My old bandmates Mick, Jeff and Willem have a new fun project called KingSnake.
They do pre-1987 Whitesnake

https://youtu.be/mfJrl9Rufco

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 04, 2020, 09:23:56 PM
My old bandmates Mick, Jeff and Willem have a new fun project called KingSnake.
They do pre-1987 Whitesnake

https://youtu.be/mfJrl9Rufco

Wow, they're good.  Also, an obvious but clever name. 
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Post by: westen44 on April 04, 2020, 09:30:00 PM
Janie had a house near my hometown in the 70's-80's. She was famous around town for being a nice lady and having a gorgeous house. I had gym class with her guitar player's daughter in high school.  Her white cotton shorts... I LOVED that gym class!

I decided to try to find some Janie Fricke records I thought I had.  It took a lot of effort, but it was worth it.  I found two of them. 
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Post by: westen44 on April 04, 2020, 09:36:42 PM
I read on Yahoo News that the economy has been set back 21 years.  In a sense, it's 1999 again.  This was always one of my favorite Prince songs. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblt2EtFfC4
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Post by: Dave W on April 05, 2020, 02:59:20 PM
Agnetha Fältskog turns 70 today. Hard to believe!

https://youtu.be/cvChjHcABPA

https://youtu.be/-crgQGdpZR0
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Post by: westen44 on April 06, 2020, 11:51:09 AM
They aren't very well-known now, but when my father was quite young, the Delmore Brothers had some relevance.  Their song "Blues Stay Away From Me" has been covered by many artists, including Gene Vincent.  Vincent, as well as several others, also covered their song "Beautiful Brown Eyes."  My father who lived in Birmingham for a while said he used to jam with them sometimes at a radio station there.  He said they asked if he wanted to play even more, but it would have meant quitting his job. 

https://secondhandsongs.com/work/43000/versions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCTp-uQaYlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4TP0V_QXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evnDqN5_ueQ


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Post by: Dave W on April 06, 2020, 10:01:18 PM
Bobby Bare turns 85 today (April 7)

https://youtu.be/6G4bxA2Gfnc

Still making music - title track from his 2017 album

https://youtu.be/i8hfSuO8UC4
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Post by: westen44 on April 07, 2020, 02:04:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k54r_ANt8o
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Post by: gearHed289 on April 07, 2020, 07:32:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k54r_ANt8o

Very cool. What a legend. Hard to believe Buddy is still out there playing.
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Post by: Dave W on April 07, 2020, 03:44:59 PM
Huelyn Duvall, West Texas rockabilly guy from the late 50s who died last year. Rockabilly fans in Europe kept his music alive over the years. This is from a 2015 EP, I hadn't heard it before today.

https://youtu.be/AIOVb847Llo

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Post by: westen44 on April 10, 2020, 03:56:46 AM
A few years before she passed away, Tammy Wynette (who I've mentioned before was my third cousin) did this duet with Sting.  Nice arrangement. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5dMvw_Ui0
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Post by: Dave W on April 10, 2020, 08:50:08 PM
https://youtu.be/DWO6ddViw_o
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Post by: Pilgrim on April 10, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
One of my favorite Popa Chubby numbers...Sweet Goddess of Love and Beer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_gcOlCt0VY
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Post by: Basvarken on April 11, 2020, 02:43:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojfMjuKwhxo
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Post by: uwe on April 12, 2020, 12:41:59 PM
https://youtu.be/DWO6ddViw_o

But Dave, that is ARENA ROCK!!!
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Post by: Dave W on April 12, 2020, 09:50:30 PM
But Dave, that is ARENA ROCK!!!

You've said that before.  :bored:

They did open for some big bands of the time. Their headlining gigs were relatively small.
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Post by: uwe on April 13, 2020, 04:50:09 AM
Well, I can't help it, they still are!

I like them (have all their CDs), but they really fit the arena rock blueprint (in the sense of being an eternal opening act, but playing music aspiring to fill arenas) - which TO ME isn't an insult.
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Post by: 4stringer77 on April 13, 2020, 06:37:06 AM
Listen to the cause Chet Atkins will take up at 9:45. I know a certain someone here will get a kick out of it.
Another pleasant surprise for me was noticing the woman making the song request to George Jones at 19:15 used to be my babysitter. Small world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSKOrQvlRc
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Post by: Pilgrim on April 13, 2020, 08:02:20 AM
You had good taste in babysitters.  Pretty lady.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 13, 2020, 09:26:10 AM
Well, I can't help it, they still are!

I like them (have all their CDs), but they really fit the arena rock blueprint (in the sense of being an eternal opening act, but playing music aspiring to fill arenas) - which TO ME isn't an insult.

 :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2020, 09:54:05 AM
Getroffene Hunde bellen!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 15, 2020, 10:10:18 PM
https://youtu.be/eyCEexG9xjw

https://youtu.be/6-E0KGjJAx8
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Post by: gweimer on April 19, 2020, 03:12:28 PM
We don't listen to much, but Julie likes to watch some of the concert footage on channels like AXS.  We just watched Shania Twain, and I was just amazed at the intro for "Feel Like A Woman".   Sounds like Mutt has some input.   Just wow.  And yes, I know what song that really is.   8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtaiFcRFmVY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2020, 06:59:17 PM
Last I heard, wasn't Mutt's input largely with the PA of the couple? And I don't mean the sound system either.

 :rimshot:

Where were we? The Floydish intro is nice, but once her own material starts, the music is as fake und inorganic as her hair extensions. And that Mutt Lange sound (I was never a friend of even back in the day, he was good on Pyromania, but totally OTT on Hysteria) has dated badly, Shania carries on with it though.

I'd like to hear her in an unplugged session, stripped down (the music, not her). Not because I believe she can't sing, but because I believe behind all that bombast there might be a voice worth resurrecting.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 19, 2020, 08:24:26 PM
One of the best guitar/sax instrumental hits of the late 50s. I hadn't thought about it for awhile until a FB friend posted it today.

https://youtu.be/YSES0Vukle4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gweimer on April 20, 2020, 01:38:18 AM
Last I heard, wasn't Mutt's input largely with the PA of the couple? And I don't mean the sound system either.

 :rimshot:

Where were we? The Floydish intro is nice, but once her own material starts, the music is as fake und inorganic as her hair extensions. And that Mutt Lange sound (I was never a friend of even back in the day, he was good on Pyromania, but totally OTT on Hysteria) has dated badly, Shania carries on with it though.

I'd like to hear her in an unplugged session, stripped down (the music, not her). Not because I believe she can't sing, but because I believe behind all that bombast there might be a voice worth resurrecting.

I don't disagree.  I just found that using not just Pink Floyd, but that song in particular, was really odd in the setting of her show.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 20, 2020, 04:35:51 AM
Her musicians are top-notch, but the stuff is drenched with backing tapes in an effort to ape studio sound quality.

https://youtu.be/fOi68s_TevM
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Post by: gearHed289 on April 20, 2020, 07:57:49 AM
Her musicians are top-notch, but the stuff is drenched with backing tapes in an effort to ape studio sound quality.

Sadly an epidemic with major touring acts these days. If I want to listen to the album, I'll stay at home.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 20, 2020, 09:08:40 AM
One of the best guitar/sax instrumental hits of the late 50s. I hadn't thought about it for awhile until a FB friend posted it today.

https://youtu.be/YSES0Vukle4

A song which had an important place in music history, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djo1QiXDyY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 20, 2020, 06:06:58 PM
<iframe width="597" height="398" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3cCNuSU5ncs" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Played this on Spotify while walking the Dog(not a euphemism)
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Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2020, 09:28:07 PM
A song which had an important place in music history, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djo1QiXDyY

(in Dick Martin voice) I did not know that!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 20, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
^^^

Johnny Carson also used to say that.  I can't find a clip of him saying it, but here is one of Dana Carvey doing his impression of Carson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15DIfTLUAY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 21, 2020, 09:26:15 PM
https://youtu.be/yyzU0IvxKq8
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Post by: uwe on April 22, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
"Nickola Mason" on drums.  :mrgreen:  No audible pre-recordings on that track.

https://youtu.be/AKUpf3Wh94w
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Post by: slinkp on April 22, 2020, 05:14:21 PM
I just heard this new Fiona Apple album today... I don't know what I was expecting exactly, but this is pretty far out stuff. I really liked it and want to give it another listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N541HLPeG6Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 23, 2020, 06:35:41 AM
The new Fiona is getting a lot of interest. My 17 yo daughter sent me a link to it last week. Cool stuff. Can't really categorize it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 24, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
https://youtu.be/vQ47JfqoSRM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 25, 2020, 03:46:13 PM
A Yank listening to Canvey Island's finest. There are strange things a-happening every day!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 25, 2020, 06:13:09 PM
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zi8lJyA7Nso" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Post by: clankenstein on April 25, 2020, 06:17:20 PM
<iframe width="400" height="225" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Jhcq3J-nVUQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Ahh Nostalgia....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 25, 2020, 07:10:47 PM
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xi12JsKtAW4?list=TLPQMjYwNDIwMjBd5cqbU3gAFw" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


For completnesses sake heres the 3rd (Harvey Mann) of the NZ notable guitarists of the late 60s/early 70s.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 25, 2020, 07:22:16 PM
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XzwAVJan3Pw?list=RD07oBUV8hY7U" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: clankenstein on April 25, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
Those last posts were notable NZ guitarists of the late 60s/early 70s.
Eddie Hansen in Ticket , Billy Te Kahika in Human Instinct, Harvey Mann in the Underdogs and the guy that influenced them all, Doug Jerebine/Jesse Harper. 


Righto I promise to stop now.







Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 25, 2020, 08:40:07 PM
https://youtu.be/oJfPGgr8080
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 26, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
Jay Clark Band, Dayton, Ohio

My son Keith on bass.

https://youtu.be/nSRPdxVpGIA
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Post by: Rob on April 27, 2020, 03:45:25 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 28, 2020, 01:42:28 AM
Very good.  One of the James Gang's best songs and they had quite a few good ones. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 28, 2020, 07:21:00 PM
https://youtu.be/UcNUz4njCo8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on April 30, 2020, 06:12:52 AM
That Rockpile is a solid band. Nick Lowe makes the Mud bucker tele sound nice and punchy here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 30, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
Rockpile was great while it lasted. It was never going to be a long term deal considering Nick and Dave's differing interests.

And now for something completely different

https://youtu.be/-zUIiU9NGNs



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 01, 2020, 09:44:17 PM
https://youtu.be/KrbPlr4Wskc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 02, 2020, 09:23:52 PM
https://youtu.be/72Dtkf22YPk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 05, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
Local friends.

https://youtu.be/LzvYSFtTXTY
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Post by: 4stringer77 on May 09, 2020, 09:44:50 AM
RIP.  We're all taking it one day at a time now I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3tEnu04kY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 14, 2020, 10:01:48 PM
https://youtu.be/3cQNkIrg-Tk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 15, 2020, 08:49:05 AM
I love this tune!  One of the great bass lead-ins, too. 

On TB some folks asked to hear the strings on my 1963 P-bass; they were installed about 1972.  I thought the best way to demo them would be to play the intro to a tune from the 60's, and Soul Sacrifice is a good one.  Now I'm learning it, so I'm working through this tune. 

It's just as great today as it was at Woodstock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZceAQSJvc   
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Post by: the mojo hobo on May 15, 2020, 05:12:08 PM
So, I subscribed to RFD TV for the show Trains and locomotives, which some of the trainspotters here would enjoy, but I found this program: The Bluegrass Trail. Bluegrass usually features banjo, fiddle, guitar and mandolin. Until tonight every mandolin has been a Gibson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ov6_hXY0QE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 21, 2020, 08:14:47 PM
https://youtu.be/JnU0TT5avdU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 06, 2020, 08:18:45 PM
https://youtu.be/73bTWmuI5mk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 12, 2020, 04:33:24 PM
https://youtu.be/vFf4srV1T64
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Post by: Rob on June 13, 2020, 06:36:09 AM
Seems funny to see Rivers without a red Gibson.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on June 13, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
I saw him a few years ago here in Fort Collins. The curtain came up, and on the state were a red Gibson in a stand, a drum set, a Fender P-bass in its stand, and a B-3 with a Leslie speaker next to it.

I turned to my wife with a big grin and said "This is gonna be GOOD!"

Then Rivers and the band walked out to their places, and it was very good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 13, 2020, 08:43:28 PM
Speaking of performers identified with guitars, Charlie Gracie is almost forgotten in the US except for rockabilly fans but he still tours in Europe, especially France. He still plays the three-pickup sunburst hollowbody Guild X-350 Stratford he has played since 1957. There weren't many made, and I never expected a reissue, but Guild has recently come out with one in its Newark Street (MIK) series, in cherry with a Bigsby.

Charlie in 1957

https://youtu.be/bAztLdssgzk

Charlie in 2018 in France

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDr0FJSAaLg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 15, 2020, 02:02:26 PM
https://youtu.be/NL7MJ-a2Kx4

https://youtu.be/mnKu63XRYXU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 16, 2020, 02:53:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FGxH50WS7Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 19, 2020, 09:51:39 AM
For whatever reason, I missed out on those guys for far too long, I knew the song, but not the band, now have two CDs from them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jhRuZhkRI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 19, 2020, 09:23:42 PM
Too bad the real Pacific Gas & Electric is a name you wouldn't want to be associated with today.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 20, 2020, 06:10:23 AM
So it wasn't a utility company responsible for those fires? It's shocking that this band would have done it but then I noticed the bass player has a Ruffino sticker on his Precision. Clearly the Italian wine makers put these guys up to it to take out the Napa valley competition.  ;D
Great song though. Love the upfront bass. That's one of the deepest tones I've heard from a bass player using a pick.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 20, 2020, 04:29:21 PM
The actual utility company has been found liable for at least some of the fires in northern California. They're in Chapter 11 bankruptcy now and the victims apparently will wind up owning a chunk of the company when it comes out of bankruptcy.

And now for something completely different, these are on my playlist today.

https://youtu.be/P0fWC7EViws

https://youtu.be/VmM3EH5nrDg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 22, 2020, 09:58:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv-XFGOHgzk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on June 23, 2020, 05:50:40 AM
 :mrgreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUtGf35Pz6o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2020, 12:48:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18

With all the cultural references of the time, it reminds me of Don McLean's American Pie (who of course sang about Buddy Holly's death).

When it gets down to storytelling in front of a bit of music, Herr Zimmermann still deserves his throne.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2020, 01:02:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv-XFGOHgzk

C'mon Dave, let's hear that song proper - with all the instruments!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ikr45xUc9o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on June 23, 2020, 02:10:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvJrJcVAQQs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2020, 03:24:58 PM
That song always had charm.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 23, 2020, 09:56:00 PM
C'mon Dave, let's hear that song proper - with all the instruments!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ikr45xUc9o

Unfortunately I can't upload vinyl directly.  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 24, 2020, 07:27:55 AM
You don't like the remix better? I think it's tasteful, they left the general aura of the original intact, but everything is more vibrant.

Of course, the band is always worth a listen no matter what the mix.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 24, 2020, 02:55:19 PM
You don't like the remix better? I think it's tasteful, they left the general aura of the original intact, but everything is more vibrant.

Of course, the band is always worth a listen no matter what the mix.

That's not what I meant. I was listening on my home stereo, not through a computer sound card and speakers. Best I can do is to post a YT video of what I was listening to.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 25, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
Anybody who rhymes "grilfriend from Andover" with "lawnmover" is brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSFpaCQEvA

Their Beatles DNA is still fine too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPCs9SL7ZIk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on June 25, 2020, 05:03:27 PM
1st four albums in consecutive order while I was working in the garden today... back to work on Monday after a three month furlough...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0t_wb0lUW0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 25, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
Ah yessss, ze Cült roolz!!! Listening to a lot of it myself as of late. They finally - after decades - have a record deal again, with Frontiers, that spaghetti elephants' graveyard for all hard and melodic rock. Among us Europeans: Intellectualism and American arena rock generally don't mix, but BÖC at least came close!  :mrgreen:

And which other band has taken on the thorny subject of marital flatulence? "I know you'll soon be married and you want to know where wind comes from ..." :mrgreen: Hey ... hey ... hey ... This might even give Dave's old methane flame Gwyneth ideas ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz1p-JXwTuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzRVm65lNdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFSvaCbEP3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4kXLTXKTX0




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 25, 2020, 05:48:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48PCZ7mPL9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1NYhbiiiFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55r1h5UzFTU

And I love Joe's incessant bending bass notes here, steal it all the time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dczP4nW6YfY&list=PLz6cAheObZcg28L5vDLVHsFbzCf6FdpCL&index=4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on June 25, 2020, 07:02:19 PM
https://youtu.be/MBTGaG9nLy0

Jellyfish, Imperial Drag, Lickerish Quartet... Love it all.
 
https://youtu.be/301_ImeJu5A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 25, 2020, 09:30:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8v2DTpeKcg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 26, 2020, 09:15:47 AM
Like most people, I remember the Climax Blues Band mostly for Couldn't Get It Right, their untypical freak disco hit.

Man, they could really cook live, this beats all other versions I know of the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDkLsZOv4EE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 26, 2020, 01:03:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1NYhbiiiFw


Yes now is an ideal time for escaping. My brother in California will be having a family outing on their sail boat to Catalina island while I'll have to content myself with the backyard pool. Wonder if he'll be listening to this on the open water?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEO6gYCFbr0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 26, 2020, 05:37:30 PM
Another douche bag confession: I like Christopher Cross!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 28, 2020, 01:51:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOWrScjXMRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQomFaLyQ5I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 28, 2020, 02:31:26 PM
1st four albums in consecutive order while I was working in the garden today... back to work on Monday after a three month furlough...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0t_wb0lUW0

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/blue-oyster-cult-symbol-remains/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 28, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOWrScjXMRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQomFaLyQ5I

So you like excellent music?

How grossly conventional.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 28, 2020, 02:50:27 PM
I'm heavily influenced right now by the Ron Howard Beatles documentary--Eight Days a Week.  It seemed very accurate and realistic to me.  Showed what life was really like for them in the midst of Beatlemania.  I've known about it for some time, but just now have been able to see it because as far as I know it's only available on Hulu. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ron-howards-beatles-doc-eight-days-a-week-10-things-we-learned-129475/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on June 29, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
A new BOC on the way... ta for the tip Herr Hornung... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 29, 2020, 08:20:54 PM
Watching some earlier Hee Haw reruns when Barbi Benton was a cast member. She has a good voice but being Hefner's girlfriend had its career advantages. And those Playboy spreads!

https://youtu.be/mWDYAr45RnY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 30, 2020, 07:01:06 AM
Ah, the 70s!  :P Is that song autobiographical for Barbi?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2020, 02:49:30 PM
Spreads...? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 30, 2020, 10:30:30 PM
Spreads...? :mrgreen:

Photo spreads, Ken, photo spreads.  :mrgreen:  Playboy was the softest of soft porn. She did three or four of them after she became Hef's girl. she was never a Playmate of the Month, though.

Ah, the 70s!  :P Is that song autobiographical for Barbi?

More or less. Pretty sure it was written for her.

I'm surprised no one has commented the waist-to-crotch treatment on her outfit in the video.   8)

She's been married to a real estate developer for decades now. I saw an article a couple of years ago, maybe longer, about the fantastic house they built in Aspen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on July 01, 2020, 07:58:54 AM
Photo spreads, Ken, photo spreads.  :mrgreen: 

I'm surprised no one has commented the waist-to-crotch treatment on her outfit in the video.   8)


Now I need to watch it again.

I did.  It looks like parachute rigging.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 01, 2020, 10:51:43 AM
Watching some earlier Hee Haw reruns when Barbi Benton was a cast member. She has a good voice but being Hefner's girlfriend had its career advantages. And those Playboy spreads!

https://youtu.be/mWDYAr45RnY

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Dave ... caught you again. No Ritchie Blackmore or Jon Lord connection, but a Roger Glover one:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/IAaqoN-wdNNc-NVwUKciwyU2teck8u9DAb5esd3biAjwbKJrUZ7koQlQs6PwlvKxw1kU2BogERBHG9s2tOubmkxIQ9bDMMZZUB_LPOv32BEtLK72QA)
(Roger Glover, former and current bassist of English pop group Deep Purple is
 on the left, on the right: Ms Benton.)


Before you guys jump to your usual cheapshot and adolescent conclusions, he was her producer!

"But one of Glover’s most …interesting production projects was his work on a long-forgotten 1977 album, released only in Sweden, on a label called Playboy Records…

Male readers of a certain age will remember Ms. Benton as a Playboy model; perhaps the Playboy cover girl of the 70’s. If you weren’t old enough then to be swiping your dad’s Playboys, you may remember her as a bit player on TV’s Hee Haw. Benton also starred in an ABC TV series in 1977 called ‘Sugartime!’ about an all-female rock group ‘trying to make it big’. Well… they sure picked the right girl for that…

Barbi Benton released 5 albums during the 1970s, with some success. Her first single reached #5 on the US Billboard Country chart, but her biggest hit was a song called ‘Ain’t That Just the Way’, which was a Number One single in Sweden for five weeks in 1977. The album from which that single originated, also titled ‘Ain’t That Just the Way’, was produced by our man Roger Glover. Glover brought some of his friends to the proceedings (wouldn’t you? ‘Hey, man, you want to come down and hang out with me and Barbi Benton, maybe lay down a solo?’), so not only does Micky Moody of Whitesnake make an appearance, but David Coverdale hung around long enough to earn a songwriting credit, along with Barbi & Rog (so cute) on ‘Up In the Air’. Need more? Simon Phillips played drums. Ha! Gotcha."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFzKIb6tFhg

I remember a question to Roger on his production experience with her and he said - ever the gentleman - something along the lines of "joy to work with, lovely person and a talented singer".

To be fair, Roger only produced a remake for the European (Scandinavian) market (where it indeed became a hit). The re-recording was possibly done because of a change in record company or because the original (recorded two years before) was deemed too "Las Vegas" (strings-drenched as it was) in arrangement for European late 70ies ears, the '77 recording is clearly more "Yuropean", even Micky Moody's slide guitar can't hide that fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPYCo6rcczI


Phew, for today, my work here is once again done ...

PS:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZZrt-ZrhL.jpg)

Here's the single. "Thames Productions" was a music company affiliated with the Deep Purple management and largely used for spin-off Purple acts such as Rainbow, David Coverdale etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9wkABemBo

And the production is sooo tell-tale Roger Glover ... the very audible background singer girls are clearly Liza Strike, Doris Troy & the usual suspects which Roger had regularly on albums he produced. They were also on Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/f0/46/75f046eaaea098e6c1ae4e3096bc529c.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 01, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
Isn't that Dennis Weaver in the control room wearing the white scarf?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on July 01, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
Yep... It's a gig... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 01, 2020, 04:26:21 PM
Great gig actually.

In the sky and such.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 01, 2020, 10:14:47 PM
Now I need to watch it again.

I did.  It looks like parachute rigging.

Vaginal parachute rigging.

Isn't that Dennis Weaver in the control room wearing the white scarf?

(in Sam McCloud voice) There you go.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 02, 2020, 10:47:56 AM
Vaginal parachute rigging.

Another recommended goop product?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 02, 2020, 09:07:31 PM
Another recommended goop product?

If you forward the idea to Gwyneth, be sure to act as my representative to negotiate royalties.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 03, 2020, 08:27:59 AM
Ok, and it better not be too paltrowy!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 03, 2020, 12:21:18 PM
Obviously an undoctored soundboard audio, but it shows how at 71 he has still got it - this stuff is hard to sing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYwFm_kD2Bs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38x9uqe1Epk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqBPov7qO8Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 03, 2020, 09:12:30 PM
Listening to some New Orleans music today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOYYbiEul0

https://youtu.be/6EN5eJf5h_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2020, 08:01:56 AM
I listened to the new Lucinda Williams album non-stop and Edith yells from around the corner: "One more of those desolate songs, and I'll consider suicide a good and logical thing!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dCgux3O1tM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss2GVWKZjaI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2020, 08:07:36 AM
Eternal favorites of mine, even if no one here gets them and I always wonder why. Weren't you guys the nation of Groucho Marx Dadaism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLxPIOxgkM0

Sparks go Klezmer, picking up on their Jewish roots! "Can't you see the existential threat is on its way?!"  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0PWkOO8CVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkEAhNJC-zE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZmApy1gNcU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 08, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
https://youtu.be/yyzU0IvxKq8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 09, 2020, 07:57:00 AM
I love playing this one...a classic. Every bass line is different, depending on the artist.  This is a real good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4pk0IMmN8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2020, 10:34:53 PM
I love playing this one...a classic. Every bass line is different, depending on the artist.  This is a real good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4pk0IMmN8

I never heard Elvis do it!

I still prefer the original. Robert Higginbotham = Tommy Tucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bmbSC9c2ys
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 10, 2020, 08:22:57 AM
Wonder if the writer got any royalties for any of those subsequent versions? Even the Sesame Street theme bares some resemblance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQSp92L88I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
Not bad for a bunch of Yanks pretending to be Yuropean ...

https://youtu.be/oZErqBJcBEY

https://youtu.be/K-VcMcHHoFg

https://youtu.be/Bx51eegLTY8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2020, 10:51:34 AM
Wonder if the writer got any royalties for any of those subsequent versions? Even the Sesame Street theme bares some resemblance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQSp92L88I

Oh wow, that brings back memories! When the first season first aired in Germany (early 70ies) in its - thankfully - undubbed original form, our English teacher relegated us to watching it saying it would improve our English - he was right. It was also a cultural ambassador, I thought that is how Americans live in big cities.  ;D

Much later they created a German version of it ("Sesamstraße"), it had none of the charm. "Samson" and "Tiffy" the muppets/puppets created by Jim Henson for specifically Germany were horrible. I missed Big Bird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NsP4rXWjYU

And for the record: Ernie & Bert were of course gay. How could anybody ever have been in doubt about that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 10, 2020, 01:07:27 PM
Hey that German Sesame Street wasn't so bad. The intro music was funky. I'm guessing German Kermit didn't catch on as well as his English speaking counterpart. Maybe it's just me but this version of Rainbow connection seems a little lacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1SZCd2YSZU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2020, 02:25:27 PM
Naw, Kermit was cult in Germany, though probably more as conferencier in Muppet Show than in Sesame Street, we could see and hear him both in original English and dubbed ...
 
https://youtu.be/lGqtyIklfPQ

https://youtu.be/fO_cAWe1je0


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 10, 2020, 03:58:51 PM
Hey that German Sesame Street wasn't so bad. The intro music was funky. I'm guessing German Kermit didn't catch on as well as his English speaking counterpart. Maybe it's just me but this version of Rainbow connection seems a little lacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1SZCd2YSZU

That voice sounds like Joel Grey singing in Cabaret. I half expected him to break into it at any moment....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
That wasn't Kermit's usual German dub voice and it indeed sounds like Joel in Cabaret!

https://youtu.be/SmRsIp3XB1Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 11, 2020, 08:53:08 PM
Barbara Lynn (of You'll Lose a Good Thing fame) covering Ray Charles. She's still around. That's the late Gatemouth Brown on the Ric.

https://youtu.be/U6Y7sEO7Low
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2020, 10:25:13 AM
Spending great parts of his childhood and youth in a bomb shelter from the Russkies, Dave doesn't do Sesame Street. Sigh, a lost generation really ...

https://youtu.be/zMnKNHNfznE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 13, 2020, 07:52:03 AM
Spending great parts of his childhood and youth in a bomb shelter from the Russkies, Dave doesn't do Sesame Street. Sigh, a lost generation really ...

https://youtu.be/zMnKNHNfznE

Of course I do Sesame Street!  :mrgreen:

(https://i.imgur.com/rg21NXg.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PX3Vp2P.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nDMopBc.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/4c5916177a85b75eb9b0e45b32848fef/tenor.gif?itemid=13020099)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 13, 2020, 10:13:38 AM
The Firesign Theater responds....

INDIAN: Welcome, White Brother!
WAGON BOSS: Injuns! Draw the wagons up into a circle!
INDIAN: Why do you always do that?
WAGON BOSS: We get better reception that way! Do you mind if I put this antenna up on yonder peak?
INDIAN: That's our Sacred Mountain.
WAGON BOSS: This is our Sacred Antenna! It's shaped like a cross! Made out of aluminum. Er-got any aluminum?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Nostalgia time ..., I remember this on 24/7 power play when I was in Deeetroit in the early 80ies. Aldo had something Rick Derringer'y to him ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQgfaB3S1c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2020, 11:18:38 AM
More music never to grow up to!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptPekKOigkQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on July 14, 2020, 04:46:16 AM
Ah, Cinderella..fond memories.... Great songs, great hair, great acting ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2020, 05:19:38 AM
A cultural threesome indeed!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 14, 2020, 08:17:55 AM
Ever run into Suzi Quatro in Detroit then Uwe? Has this documentary been brought up here yet by the way? Awful nice of Gibson to share this even though it looks like she plays mostly Fenders nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_DSDDhJwp0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2020, 08:47:21 AM
Sadly, my only rock star contact at the time was a visit to see a totally emaciated, alcohol-ravaged and barely there Alice Cooper (Special Forces Tour) - he really did look like he would die on stage any moment, a chicken could have trampled him - + The Joe Perry Project at Cobo Hall. And I bought me a Kramer XKB-10 alu neck Flying Broom which I still have!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 14, 2020, 08:48:31 AM
One more for Uwe

(https://i.imgur.com/APV7ers.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 14, 2020, 08:55:23 AM
Back to the subject, I've been listening to Rod Bernard, who passed day before yesterday, a month shy of his 80th birthday. Music from southwest Louisiana, played as far west as Houston when I was growing up, now called "swamp pop" although it never was back then. This was a national hit in 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvnHi0zZC-o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 16, 2020, 06:17:01 PM
I believe Steve Marriott would approve:

https://youtu.be/-MAr_rh1SG4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 17, 2020, 12:54:49 AM
Didn't know he joined that band. They're basically a cover band aren't they?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 17, 2020, 07:11:57 AM
Not really, they just release the odd cover now and then. A millionaire's hobby (the rhythm guitarist/band leader, one of the wealthiest Australians, Richard Branson type entrepreneur). But as a DP fan, bands backed by wealthy investors are nothing to complain about, Purple was "manufactured" from the start.

Don't you remember Utrecht, Holländer? We saw the Dead Daisies there opening for Coverdale's Weißschlange - at that time Corabi and Mendoza were still singing und playing bass, respectively, Glenn took both their places! The ole multi-purpose tool from Birmingham.  :) Which is ironic, as both are (or at least were!) admirers of Glenn's singing and bass playing. Mendoza's solo albums sound like souped-up Hughes efforts und Corabi cites "Stormbringer" as one of his alltime favorite albums.

Anyway, you liked the Daisies back then! They had the GnR keyboarder and I believe Bumblefoot as lead guitarist with them at the time.

For me, the Dead Daisies project is of great interest because of the combination of people. Aldrich has toured with Hughes before, they were a wonderful match. Best one since Hughes played with Thrall or even Bolin/Blackmore, that good. And Dean Castronovo - when not busy with domestic violence at home, allegedly - banged the sticks for Journey (and has a singing voice much like Steve Perry).

https://youtu.be/zuSOLYJ3ne4

Of course, the Revolution Saints are an Italian recipe of Frontiers Records, elephants' graveyard for  all things AOR and home of Night Ranger (the bassist in the vid is Jack Blades, one of my favorite Republicans),  Doug Aldrich solo stuff, modern day Journey, Glenn Hughes, Dead Daisies etc.

PS: I do like the, how shall I put this ... tasteful innuendo of that Revolution Saints vid, for a moment I thought she was gonna pee in that coffee mug which would have greatly enhanced overall dramatic effect ... aw shucks, no such luck.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 17, 2020, 08:00:49 AM
Yeah I do remember them, but I was under the impression they did mainly covers back then. With that Steven Tyler look-a-like singer. Was that Corabi?
I did like them better than Whitesnake, yes.

I think you're short selling Marco Mendoza a bit. He's much more than a souped up Glenn Hughes!
I saw this the other day. I had no idea he did all that too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ki8i7RzuHo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 17, 2020, 08:59:20 AM
I've been listening to my ancient Leo Kottke 6 and 12 String Guitar on vinyl.

Still my favorite.

https://youtu.be/tew_fIhz3eY

Jack Fig is an instrumental from the same album. This video cuts it off just before the end b/c it was originally uploaded when YT had a 10 minute limit. Sharing it anyway b/c most of the video is Leo telling his famous (to Leo fans) chicken story.

https://youtu.be/R15TOEgtvCc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 17, 2020, 09:24:09 AM
Yeah I do remember them, but I was under the impression they did mainly covers back then. With that Steven Tyler look-a-like singer. Was that Corabi? YES
I did like them better than Whitesnake, yes.

I think you're short selling Marco Mendoza a bit. He's much more than a souped up Glenn Hughes!
I saw this the other day. I had no idea he did all that too.


Marco Mendoza (not the same Marco Mendoza as the one of Dictators/Twisted Sister fame) is a gifted player, no doubt. Re the Hughes comparison, Mendoza must have inhaled Glenn for a time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGNZCM_Myho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAbqPL1kTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEEnPnStkFU

BTW, I think Glenn is an amazing bass player, not just an amazing singer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppdqN9zOow8

just not as versatile as Marco, who is after all from the LA session scene. I share that view with Herr Satriani.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2eZ2aHzmyo

Here's the Australian millionaire, bottom left. Glenn's gnashers are a little too white if you ask me, 45 years of California have undoubtedly left their mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5WtX1egZBk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 17, 2020, 09:26:15 AM
I've been listening to my ancient Leo Kottke 6 and 12 String Guitar on vinyl.

Still my favorite.

https://youtu.be/tew_fIhz3eY


So that is where Johnny Ramone got his sound from. I always wondered.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 18, 2020, 02:56:01 PM
So that is where Johnny Ramone got his sound from. I always wondered.

Yes, so much alike, same guitars too.  :P

Leo doesn't ply as fast as he did 50 years ago but he still has the touch, and his stories are just as great.

Leo's Bob Dylan story.

https://youtu.be/f2KoIWEAdaM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 19, 2020, 07:05:29 AM
I was only half in jest: They both have that sonic drone with all the layered harmonics from an onslaught attack on all strings - und that struck me when I saw the vid you posted. Neil Young sometimes has that too when he plays electric (but not when he plays acoustic). There is something primal about "the drone" which I like.

No offense meant, I like and appreciate Kottke. And Johnny Ramone of course.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2020, 12:31:20 AM
I definitely didn't take offense.

New Orleans music on my current menu.

https://youtu.be/QmWt11bfxrY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 21, 2020, 12:16:20 PM
Where is Scott of Thunder when you need him? I think he would appreciate the violinist here ...

https://youtu.be/J2YKW43ZeLM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 23, 2020, 09:31:52 PM
Listening to the Kinks' Think Visual album from 1986.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUjISW_e2c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 24, 2020, 07:41:49 AM
That was an underrated album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 27, 2020, 09:25:46 PM
Still on a Leo binge.

Pamela Brown was written by Tom T. Hall, although I don't think Tom T, ever released it as a single. This was always in Leo's shows for years, maybe it still is.

https://youtu.be/vWS2TkPU-T0

Louise was another in regular rotation.

https://youtu.be/Or4IhIXBNZk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 28, 2020, 11:49:49 AM
New Ace Frehley. Wish new Deep Purple sounded as good :vader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YMfF8N-LI8&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 28, 2020, 01:27:46 PM
and Gene's taking a dump  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 28, 2020, 03:36:17 PM
Never the most cerebral of Purple songs, he's done a fine job with it, his non-voice and all. It's a spoof song.

There must be a myriad guitarists with better chops than Ace, but he's an original both in his playing and "singing".

Purple have left that type of music behind a long time ago, these days they are a prog band with hard rock moments.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 29, 2020, 07:00:18 AM
When I first heard he was doing this, I thought "PLEASE let someone else sing!", but Ace's style actually works OK. Not a bad cover. Nice to see Space Bear again.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 30, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
He sings "Space Ace Trucking" at one point, cute.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Bargeon on July 31, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
I saw Leo Kottke in the mid 90s in a small venue in Philly. Front row seat, center. He was having a good night. Liked to tell stories. One of the best concerts of a lifetime.

Saw Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarmen a bit later.

12 guys that play like one. And one guy that plays like 12.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on August 01, 2020, 05:38:48 AM
Picked up a copy of Who's Next on vinyl... rescued from a charity shop wall display... just could not bear to see it there... silly cheap too...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 01, 2020, 06:18:07 AM
I saw Leo Kottke in the mid 90s in a small venue in Philly. Front row seat, center. He was having a good night. Liked to tell stories. One of the best concerts of a lifetime.

Saw Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarmen a bit later.

12 guys that play like one. And one guy that plays like 12.

Leo's stories are an essential part of his shows.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 02, 2020, 09:13:57 PM
https://youtu.be/9g3Xc8KQ66k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 03, 2020, 02:29:30 PM
Gentle Giant!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38gA850AF0o&list=PL94gOvpr5yt2qr9Br8BNRbh8NnMbhEZ66&index=4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on August 04, 2020, 01:17:06 AM
Gentle Giant!


#metoo 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvRd383NdiE&list=PL4228DBEF3699C944&index=6

EDIT: I think the album cover fits in here for some reason  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 04, 2020, 10:03:42 PM
Before Gentle Giant, the brothers Shulman were Simon Dupree and the Big Sound

https://youtu.be/wpGOpAXUOXE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 05, 2020, 06:53:31 AM
Before Gentle Giant, the brothers Shulman were Simon Dupree and the Big Sound

I think I enjoyed that more than GG.  ;D But wow, tempo is all over the place early in the track!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 05, 2020, 09:22:09 AM
I spent great parts of Corona listening to the behemoth Gentle Giant Boxed Set "Unburied Treasure" - it drove Edith mad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L6kwOdTjHA

Dave, since when do you study the family trees of eclectic-esoteric British Proggies? :o

I hate it when you disappoint my preconceptions.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 05, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
I think I enjoyed that more than GG.  ;D But wow, tempo is all over the place early in the track!

You noticed.  :mrgreen:

There's a Little Picture Playhouse wasn't a hit, I'm aware of it b/c a Minneapolis band called Stillroven covered it back in the day. Good pop song.

This one got airplay. First YT comment: "That drummer is no John weathers that’s  for damn sure."

https://youtu.be/x6gLVEHYXNA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 05, 2020, 01:55:31 PM
Would you believe, I listen to countrymen and -women of our (vocal) Dutch minority here ...

Holländers pretending to be Yanks and stealing (a national habit) Blue Öyster Cult riffs ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArFfu8BJqXs

But it's very nicely done and très melodic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-qcAlz_dCE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 05, 2020, 04:47:29 PM
They definitely aren't as cute as Ilse DeLange, but here is Golden Earring from 2015.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfyCG6Pv0Vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-LsSCfX5A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 05, 2020, 07:46:56 PM
Had to check this out after it was shared here recently. This sure shows off Cash's voice and how he could slide into a note.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIvIOjVtJs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 06, 2020, 07:00:03 AM
Would you believe, I listen to countrymen and -women of our (vocal) Dutch minority here ...

Holländers pretending to be Yanks and stealing (a national habit) Blue Öyster Cult riffs ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArFfu8BJqXs

But it's very nicely done and très melodic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-qcAlz_dCE

Not really in my wheelhouse, but that first tune "We Don't Make the Wind Blow" has great guitar tones and some cool chord changes, along with the great vocals.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 06, 2020, 09:56:48 AM
...

Dave, since when do you study the family trees of eclectic-esoteric British Proggies? :o

I hate it when you disappoint my preconceptions.

Sorry I overlooked your comment.

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."

https://youtu.be/37v-6Zs5T10
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 06, 2020, 04:04:02 PM
That's ok, ignore me, I'm used to it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 06, 2020, 04:13:21 PM
Not really in my wheelhouse, but that first tune "We Don't Make the Wind Blow" has great guitar tones and some cool chord changes, along with the great vocals.

Those harmony vox are pretty stellar. My wife had it on her  spotify and she played it to me. Sie used to sing in a choir, so harmony vocals always catch her attention.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 12, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
Jack Bruce looks disheveled  here and was obviously on something.  But things gradually progress for the better.  Toward the middle, Ginger Baker starts playing drums.  There is a lot of spontaneous bass playing going on.  I just wish he could have playing the EB-1 like he did at the Cream reunion and with Robin Trower at Nijmegen.  But as has already been established somewhere in a Gibson thread, Jack Bruce didn't even have the EB-1 until later. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJe-jXNreik&t=235s

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2020, 07:09:51 AM
Glam-mas are doing it for themselves ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiwCXrHvePg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCrqNC8ahA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2020, 08:05:51 PM
https://youtu.be/Wejgyx3e4rY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 21, 2020, 04:25:35 AM
Rousingly frantic, sounds like an encore after a great gig. The Kinks were a great live act, never mind how the thankless Limeys always underrated their own. If it hadn't been for those long US tours to support them, the Bruddahs Davies & Co. would have needed to pack up a long time ago.

What's with the reunion that is supposedly underway?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 21, 2020, 06:51:18 AM
Rousingly frantic, sounds like an encore after a great gig. The Kinks were a great live act, never mind how the thankless Limeys always underrated their own. If it hadn't been for those long US tours to support them, the Bruddahs Davies & Co. would have needed to pack up a long time ago.

What's with the reunion that is supposedly underway?

It's been a little more than a year since they confirmed they were recording together again. Live performances? No idea if there were any planned, and the pandemic would have shelved them for now anyway.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 23, 2020, 09:49:37 AM
After the Common Linnets that Uwe posted a while back, here's some more Dutch southern music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82OY84jw9F4

I heard them on the radio this morning and I thought it was Blackberry Smoke.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 24, 2020, 07:36:17 AM
A band from Rotterdam that I discovered over the weekend - Dool. "Pop goth meets doom metal" is a guilty pleasure of mine (Type O Negative, H.I.M.).  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMxYHH8zI4
Title: Re: So what have you been cutting yourself to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2020, 09:33:03 AM
Yes, life is a sad abyss, tearHed289 ... Hope is just the absence of insight. Soundgarden is my Beach Boys. Despair, reign o'er me ... 

(https://images.theconversation.com/files/293702/original/file-20190924-54775-1a5nssg.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=44%2C0%2C3225%2C1838&q=45&auto=format&w=496&fit=clip)

But at least they seem to be enjoying themselves!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 24, 2020, 12:34:04 PM
More music from the Netherlands.  Anneke van Giersbergen. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap1ITPCD1zY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2020, 02:18:02 PM
A band from Rotterdam that I discovered over the weekend - Dool. "Pop goth meets doom metal" is a guilty pleasure of mine (Type O Negative, H.I.M.).  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMxYHH8zI4

The lead singer is a bit of a tv personality. Her name is Ryanne van Dorst. She is actually quite funny and down to earth. Not as dark as you might think if you look at the video.
She was born as hermaphrodite by the way.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2020, 03:01:53 PM
Hermawot??? The plot thickens then.  :popcorn:

Actually, I found her quite buoyant for a doomie. She They need to work on that depressive image. (And, yes, I like Type O Negative and H.I.M. too - and while we are depressive - Depeche Mode as well.  :-\ :-\ :-\ )
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
She/they used to call themselves Ella Bandita. Here's  a tv performance from 11 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvzVvLdhAGs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
I like her Patti Smith/Chrissie Hynde vibe.
Title: Re: So what have you been cutting yourself to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2020, 06:59:27 AM
tearHed289 ...

 ;D ;D ;D

The lead singer is a bit of a tv personality. Her name is Ryanne van Dorst. She is actually quite funny and down to earth. Not as dark as you might think if you look at the video.
She was born as hermaphrodite by the way.

Interesting. I watched a good portion of their set at Wacken 2018 over the weekend and they're really good live. I figured she was gay or non-binary or something just by the way she carries herself.

and while we are depressive - Depeche Mode as well.  :-\ :-\ :-\ )

Of course!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2020, 02:27:42 PM
My wife and I always argue about this - for inexplicable reasons she favors Ted Neeley -, but I hold that nothing beats the rawness and emotion of young Ian's voice in the original first recording. And the scream at 02:27 was an improvisational idea of his, not conceived by Andrew Lloyd Webber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOjyGy1NR4Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2020, 04:51:54 PM
Our Iowa-Yanks-meet-Swedish-girl-who-can-sing-and-decide-to-travel-back-in-time-to-the-late-60ies-quartet (meanwhile sans their former French lead guitarist) are at it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxL15x5jJEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HekZW4Pbg_I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 26, 2020, 05:20:08 PM
Oh yeah, and this old fisherman sang with Jesus' place of residence once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2t-mtm0KS0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2020, 04:32:34 AM
This forum of fora needs to attune itself more thoroughly with the prevailing times; I hear from the world outside that this is the international summer hit 2020. And don't hiss about the "Stand By Me"/Doo Wop'ish chord progression, it's catchy alright (and dare I say: life-affirming rather than depressive!), the language is Zulu:

https://youtu.be/fCZVL_8D048

https://youtu.be/bXNWHF2SFyM

Some real dance moves there ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 27, 2020, 07:07:40 AM
That was pleasant (Master KG). A little positivity is welcome right now.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2020, 11:33:14 AM
It's a real relief that in this day and age a young woman (of color to boot) begins to sing a song in a contralto voice and doesn't spill all her beans with the first note. No oversinging throughout, just a lovely natural voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on August 29, 2020, 07:08:25 AM
Started out lately with "Everyone Knows This is Nowhere", then went to CCR, then a bunch of surf.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on August 30, 2020, 10:32:06 PM
Earlier I was listening to "Time's Up", the second Living Colour album, which is now 30 years old and really holds up. A very ambitious album with I'd say occasional missteps but a lot of high points.

Then I came across this, which I have to say I would rather listen to than any straight Metallica tracks I've heard.
https://youtu.be/KyvxHL5hLfE

Also played this today - Cellophane, a regional band from the Hudson Valley north of new York City in the 90s. Resurrected from the ashes of Agitpop, also obscure but one of my favorites from the 80s/90s underground scene.
This song is long but I like it all the way through. One of my favorite drummers.
https://youtu.be/6CDZZX_i9ds

And the other song I remember from their live shows:

https://youtu.be/FsCdJF7FbAU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 31, 2020, 07:39:35 AM

Then I came across this, which I have to say I would rather listen to than any straight Metallica tracks I've heard.
https://youtu.be/KyvxHL5hLfE


That's a brilliant mashup. First time I've ever heard Lars Ulrich groove!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2020, 12:12:02 PM
All that bludgeoning Metallica wallop can't replace Wonder's tell-tale riff for me!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 31, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
Nordic Union (featuring Ronnie Atkins & Erik Martensson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnpEoYU02iE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2020, 03:48:25 PM
Speaking of Dion (in another thread), his new album is lovely ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-7tvS0_nc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2020, 04:13:53 PM
Nordic Union (featuring Ronnie Atkins & Erik Martensson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnpEoYU02iE

Are vee now into Viking metäl or vatt?  :mrgreen:

Actually, I liked the Pretty Maids too. And this - even though it is très Yuropean!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 31, 2020, 07:09:33 PM
Are vee now into Viking metäl or vatt?  :mrgreen:

Actually, I liked the Pretty Maids too. And this - even though it is très Yuropean!

I think Ronnie Atkins is cool.  Also, he has been battling lung cancer, but as of now is cancer-free.  I hope he'll stay around for a long time and wish him the best. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 31, 2020, 10:52:05 PM
https://youtu.be/eq3MXSrKyk8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 01, 2020, 12:47:30 PM
Back in the day when the mustache ratio of our feathered and beaked friends was still 100%. That's how good they were - impressive. Never mind Bernie's occasional penchant for bum notes in his solos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZUF3Uv2Pg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
Under the "For You" section of Google news today, two recommendations were sent to me based on my interests.  One was an article on Paul McCartney's naughty messages in Beatles songs.  The other recommendation for me was this.  Not being too up on Judas Priest, though, I wouldn't know how this differs from earlier versions.  I like the sci-fi vibe to the lyrics of the song.  I had never thought too much about the lyrics until now and had always mostly focused on the music.  Speaking of the Beatles, this has happened to me often, too.  Focusing more on the music and especially the melody rather than the lyrics. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVuT0PPFdw



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 03, 2020, 11:17:26 AM
Interesting point. I'd say that I really understand the lyrics in less than half of the music I've ever heard. I find it almost impossible to understand most lyrics in rock, and even the tiny bit of hip-hop I've heard has lyrics so fast that I can't possibly understand them. Even in the rock stuff that I like, I probably miss around half the lyrics. This has been the case since I really started listening to music around age 10.

The exception would be folk music. This week PBS had one of their fund-raising specials focused on folks music. Peter, Paul & Mary, the Kingston Trio, Pete Seeger, Judy Collins, that kind of stuff.  Great music, and the emphasis is actually on HEARING the lyrics.

I listen mainly for melody and "hooks" that stick with me. That's probably why I dislike hip-hop, because there's usually little or no melody and the lyrics are machine-gunned so fast that I can't get them. When I see an interesting tune in this thread, 9 times out of 10 I have to look up the lyrics online to see what it said.  You would think that if the lyrics actually matter to the band, they'd make more of an effort to mix their music so you can understand them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2020, 01:00:44 PM
I think I can identify with much of what you've said here.  Except that it seems you have probably paid more attention to folk music than I have.  I might add something about the Beatles, though.  Even though I've been a fan for years, in my opinion they never were particularly good lyricists anyway.  So not listening much to their lyrics to me isn't really a big deal. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2020, 05:54:45 PM
But sometimes the lyrics do matter.  This song would be an example and almost like a primary source to a little of Southern rock's history. 

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-epic-story-of-the-outlaws-and-why-southern-rock-still-matters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3wPFvZJ_u4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 06, 2020, 09:08:47 PM
https://youtu.be/xZwCkyTL9E8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on September 07, 2020, 12:07:04 AM
OMG... I've been listening to the band that shall not be named's latest release about rushing about... and enjoying it... I've even used spurtify to download their back-catalogue again to play through whilst driving round the Highlands... :o
Mind you, I've also gone through Aerosmith, Black Oak Arkansas, UFO and some other disreputables, using the same exploitive service...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 07, 2020, 12:11:10 AM
Speaking of Carl Perkins...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_T8mRnqCwE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 07:35:12 AM
Always a lovely, quirky tune, but here lifted to new heights by an Austrian-Georgian duo Adi & Joe ...

https://youtu.be/-DysigzGQvU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 07, 2020, 09:11:21 AM
Always a lovely, quirky tune, but here lifted to new heights by an Austrian-Georgian duo Adi & Joe ...

https://youtu.be/-DysigzGQvU

Back at you.

https://youtu.be/AAKQqPr-ZKU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 07, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
Wilburys on my new old turntable this morning.

My old Onkyo turntable bit the dust, found a suitable replacement on Craigslist (a Sansui), and the seller turned out to be eb2 Jim. In a metro area of 3.6 million, what are the odds?

https://youtu.be/FMhbZdE7ghM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 12:51:04 PM
3/5 no longer with us, including the youngest one.  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 12:56:46 PM
Back at you.

https://youtu.be/AAKQqPr-ZKU

Who says we can't get excited when there is a real showman on stage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWLUmaZUHw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 01:22:31 PM
Seger in his prime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl4fxNHUpvU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 01:29:55 PM
And a surviving Wilbury with a humble light show ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKElk9zTB04
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2020, 06:16:30 PM
Black Blues matters. These guys are from Mali, Blues coming home so to say ...

https://youtu.be/O4FqZg12g7g

https://youtu.be/Q2HE6kgPS70
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 08, 2020, 02:41:05 AM
OMG... I've been listening to the band that shall not be named's latest release about rushing about... and enjoying it... I've even used spurtify to download their back-catalogue again to play through whilst driving round the Highlands... :o
Mind you, I've also gone through Aerosmith, Black Oak Arkansas, UFO and some other disreputables, using the same exploitive service...

An eclectic mix, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2020, 02:54:42 AM
OMG... I've been listening to the band that shall not be named's latest release about rushing about... and enjoying it...

Und das ist gut so, mein Sohn.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/ab0b59b3fdb78974e2f9e8cde7eff704/tenor.gif)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2020, 03:10:59 AM

https://youtu.be/Q2HE6kgPS70

with Iggy Pop?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2020, 03:39:40 AM
He's a registered supporter. Got to know them at some gig in France where he hangs around a lot.

Come on, Rob, with your penchant for Mothers Finest/Living Color/Vintage Trouble, I simply know you must dig them.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2020, 04:30:33 AM
I hear little similarities with the bands you name  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2020, 04:39:36 AM
A (not too straightforward) rhythm emphasis. As most black music has. Your own playing has all those rhythmic nuances too. And I mean that as a compliment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JajYMHKhlTg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2020, 08:32:13 AM
Hmmm... I don't know the two songs that you posted tend to ripple on a bit without going anywhere. I lose interest after 2 minutes or so.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
I found the African tribal chanting vocals over what is essentially blues-riffy rock a new approach. Most African music - to the extent it  doesn't have an Arabian influence - is in major keys, these guys are comparatively "minorish".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2020, 10:44:10 AM
Alas!, the mighty BÖC returneth!

Eric all gritty (Albert Bouchard guesting with cowbell):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPW7KhN_ZM4


Donald Buck Dharma all smooth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggj8AI_Woo0

Wasn't Richie Castellano someone's relative here and Danny Miranda (he seems to be back with the band taking over from Kasim Sulton after moonlighting with Queen) a Dudepitter at one point?

History shows again and again, how nature points out the folly of men - GO-GO-GODZILLA! That song was always brilliant in its corniness!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvrqwcArNA4

And in case you ever wondered how the "Cowbell Song" came about, look no further than 1:12 ... behind every great man there is an even greater woman ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aPPviu61Ik

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 10, 2020, 06:04:39 AM
Black State Highway.  A British band which, unfortunately, has broken up. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhiH1GIapAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApEpko3tQ7s

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 10, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
Buster Poindexter returns:

https://youtu.be/L9qmBD_-WMQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2020, 07:29:55 PM
Buster Poindexter returns:

https://youtu.be/L9qmBD_-WMQ

Clicking on that was a big mistake.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 12, 2020, 06:51:07 AM
I prefer Johansen as Johansen, but I can live with his Buster Poindexter guise, probably because I have affectionate memories from a gig in NYC where I saw him backed by a Big Band in1988. It was good fun and he told lawyer jokes. By the end, he and half the band were polonaising through the hall with the audience.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 15, 2020, 02:08:49 PM
https://youtu.be/yNbx7QWf-cg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2020, 03:17:32 AM
My favorite Linda Ronstadt song.  What's with that drummer at the end, though?  LOL. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 16, 2020, 07:55:48 AM
https://youtu.be/yNbx7QWf-cg

Man, she had my hormones RAGING when I was 14 in the late 70s. Her and Ann Wilson, Debbie Harry, and Stevie Nicks.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2020, 09:22:34 AM
Man, she had my hormones RAGING when I was 14 in the late 70s. Her and Ann Wilson, Debbie Harry, and Stevie Nicks.  ;D

Linda Ronstadt topped them all.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 16, 2020, 11:22:09 AM
https://youtu.be/yNbx7QWf-cg

For some reason, I always thought that was a cover by her of an old Motown number. Turns out, I was only half-right, old yes, Motown no:

https://youtu.be/_xUisVuPt8M

As for wet dream instigation (or inspiration?), I was always more on Carly's (Simon) team. Speaking of her, I found the Ronstadt track to be an echo to Carly's previous You're So Vain, both musically and lyrically, but given how You're No Good is the older number in its original form, it might have been the other way around!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 16, 2020, 03:59:03 PM
It has been mentioned before on other threads, but Klaus Voormann distinguished himself on that bass line in "You're So Vain.'  I don't know how many other songs by Carly Simon he was on, but there were a few.  Carly Simon here talks about the extent of his involvement in her music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFg00yk8KOc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 16, 2020, 10:30:54 PM
Did someone mention Stevie Nicks?

https://youtu.be/Hjjg0WCWELU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 17, 2020, 07:14:49 AM
Did someone mention Stevie Nicks?

https://youtu.be/Hjjg0WCWELU

Could be a good way to get a little coke buzz.  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 17, 2020, 09:33:24 AM
Sounds like a recipe for herpes hpv and possibly throat cancer. Might have been worth it to some back when this song came out. Reminds me of Gilbert's take on Catherine Zeta Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Aj6PUX49M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 17, 2020, 10:28:59 AM
Did someone mention Stevie Nicks?

https://youtu.be/Hjjg0WCWELU

Nonsensical title for a song. As if all those veils wouldn't get in the way.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 17, 2020, 11:28:13 PM
Nonsensical title for a song. As if all those veils wouldn't get in the way.  :popcorn:

Mick Fleetwood threatened to sue them over it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 18, 2020, 04:22:32 AM
He was probably worried about that gold dust trickle getting into the wrong mouths hands.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2020, 10:40:40 AM
He was probably worried about that gold dust trickle getting into the wrong mouths hands.
:toast: :toast: :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 18, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
Just watched this beautiful documentary about Jimi Hendrix.
Today it's 50 years ago he died.


https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/057828-000-A/jimi-hendrix-hear-my-train-a-comin/?fbclid=IwAR1kGGJEqzKd9uOZ3SXHmUfg-eP1aBaaVzPNiFqMpAMtciwQubQsNnmC7B4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 18, 2020, 12:29:11 PM
Maui concert out now too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUwvRQv77HA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfnlYbFEiE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 18, 2020, 01:05:15 PM
Yeah saw that Voodoo Chile video too this week. Excellent quality.
Lovely entourage. Just a meadow on a hill, with a stage without a roof. A couple of colourful drapes and a very modest sound system.
And a horse running around.
Lovely!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 18, 2020, 07:15:30 PM
He was probably worried about that gold dust trickle getting into the wrong mouths hands.

From Phester Swollen (Tom Chartier, who wrote it): "for some strange reason Fleetwood Mac took offense. Well, there's no accounting for taste. It seems this was the era when Mick Fleetwood was boning Stevie Nicks behind Lindsey Buckingham's back and he felt he had to rescue her honor. Christ! As if they didn't have enough problems of their own with all the break ups, infidelity, cocaine addictions and millions of dollars burdening them! They had to throw their weight around and go after some fledgling punk band. I guess it was a case of the big bully beating up the asthmatic wimp on the playground for making a smart ass comment and laughing during his oral report. We soon found we were banned in Los Angeles. Someone claiming to be Mick Fleetwood himself called KROQ and threatened them with a lawsuit if they played the song, then called Nigel at home with the same threat. All the major record stores in Los Angeles were threatened with no more big selling Big Mac albums if they sold our nasty little single. Ooh scary! What a threat. Who the hell bought Tusk anyway? It sucked the turds out of a dead bloated water buffalo's anus. Some stores hid our records under the table like a bunch of pussies and some gave Fleetwood Mac the finger and still got their albums anyway. Then they decided to be less obvious and the doors to a number of the clubs in town closed to us mysteriously."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2020, 09:35:28 AM
Oh my, the - no pun intended - sourpussies!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 20, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
Red dirt music from Stillwater, Oklahoma

https://youtu.be/H1uevpCEVKA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2020, 03:30:00 AM
Nice harp!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 21, 2020, 03:45:07 AM
Maui concert out now too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUwvRQv77HA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfnlYbFEiE

I just saw that, too.  Also, only moments ago, I found this about Hendrix which I thought was very good.  I agree with Patti Smith's analysis of it all. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2020/09/19/patti-smith-on-jimi-hendrix-he-was-everything-you-wanted-in-a-rock-and-roll-star/#445e412f7085
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2020, 03:13:23 PM
This is nice ... (he's rerecorded the complete Tea for the Tillerman)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_H5XuIb5WM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBCJhNiKhFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16NgjoYIL9c


And I still have a crush on her! Quirky version too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13oJajXx0M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2020, 04:03:50 PM
From Russia (or Middle Earth) with love ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv-yZkRd0fE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2020, 05:09:41 PM
He's still got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9wS4RyW74Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2020, 06:58:19 PM
That new BÖC album seems a promising affair, just like they should sound - and even one of the new boys gets to sing lead (never mind BÖC's collective, slightly corny vampire obsession  ;D ):

https://youtu.be/8H0iX-_Vts0

Trademark Buck Dharma sound:

https://youtu.be/UQoWfQ_3txA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 27, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
A friend sent me this. Never heard of them. Found out that The Boys became The Action, never heard of them either. But it's a cool beat tune from the era (1963), and there's an pre-Baldwin early Gretsch 6070 and what I think is a White Falcon.

https://youtu.be/IibayurVJXw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on September 28, 2020, 12:34:28 AM
A friend sent me this. Never heard of them. Found out that The Boys became The Action, never heard of them either. But it's a cool beat tune from the era (1963), and there's an pre-Baldwin early Gretsch 6070 and what I think is a White Falcon.

https://youtu.be/IibayurVJXw

Very nice! That 6070 looks just like mine, and the recording sounds like it's a 6070 too.
And lots of guitars in the background..
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2020, 07:30:45 AM
Some driving bass there!

And judging from the vocal melody in the verse, I guess Kim Fowley must have known that song and remembered parts of it 13 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBvXpjudf8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 28, 2020, 08:27:41 AM
Nice to see something with a couple of classic Gretsch instruments!  I agree, looks like a White Falcon, including the bumper pad on the back.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2020, 09:01:21 AM
Some driving bass there!

And judging from the vocal melody in the verse, I guess Kim Fowley must have known that song and remembered parts of it 13 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBvXpjudf8

Good point.

OTOH I think Really Gonna shake owes a lot to Chan Romero.

From 1959

https://youtu.be/MlkKB1JlbFg



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
Just when you think you knew everything about Cher's chequered career, you learn that she once fronted a rock band called Black Rose (with no doubt some romantic inspiration from her then heartthrob Les Dudek - also in the band - and perhaps attempting to flee her late 70ies Las Vegas show image); she sure had the rock chick visuals down pat, precursing her lesbian look in Silkwood (the movie with Meryl Streep) a few years later (I know, I know, Cher's voice has proved divisive here in the past  8), but I like it, it's highly recognizable and no other female singer matches it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSWCXBWK8w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbiWSZIG_AE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ierBelhdoNw&list=RDierBelhdoNw&start_radio=1&t=175
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
I remember that, must have been 40 years ago. When I saw them live on Midnight Special, they were just introduced as Black Rose, no mention of Cher. Then the music started and we looked at each other and said "Is that Cher?"It was strange, Cher prancing around as an anorexic rock chick. Didn't last long.

That was the original Cher, before all her body parts were replaced. :)

Coincidentally, I shared this on Facebook today.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
Yes, they consciously tried to underplay her. That didn't really work - just as it didn't with Tin Machine and David Bowie.

And now for something completely different: I stumbled across this because Cherie Currie had covered it. I didn't know the original, nor that they were Brits nor that they were Pete Townshend protegés or that he played bass on their album (with quite some Entwistle inspiration if I dare say!). Listening to it now, his voice is quite present in the backing vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdbr6vUCDQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMW7WUIOjA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 29, 2020, 07:18:01 AM
Yes, they consciously tried to underplay her. That didn't really work - just as it didn't with Tin Machine and David Bowie.

And now for something completely different: I stumbled across this because Cherie Currie had covered it. I didn't know the original, nor that they were Brits nor that they were Pete Townshend protegés or that he played bass on their album (with quite some Entwistle inspiration if I dare say!). Listening to it now, his voice is quite present in the backing vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdbr6vUCDQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMW7WUIOjA

Wow, that's a very young (16?) Jimmy McCulloch on guitar. He went on to join Wings at their peak. I grew up hearing Something in the Air. I can't see what the other one you posted is. Never knew the Townshend connection.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 29, 2020, 08:12:16 AM
I was wondering about the kid lead guitarist. With his looks you would have expected him in some bubblegum outfit or something like The Herd perhaps - teen appeal galore. No idea that he was/is Jimmy McCulloch! I didn't know that he played in a late version of the Small Facts either (together with Rick Willis of later Foreigner fame):

https://youtu.be/5F-PStKPGQ0

The other vid was just the cover of the song by Cherie Currie and Brie Darling, the drummeress from Fanny, it was the studio version, perhaps you can see this live version here:

https://youtu.be/hjivoNVx8ow
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2020, 03:24:15 PM
Sounds fairly nasty
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on September 29, 2020, 08:20:56 PM
Not that sort of thing we play much on this forum but I heard this song yesterday for the first time in a long time and it hit me hard. RIP Maggie
https://youtu.be/9e3sqtoRG-Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 30, 2020, 11:13:06 AM
Sounds fairly nasty

There is nothing like a good singer and Cherie is of course nothing like a good singer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on October 01, 2020, 03:13:54 PM
There is nothing like a good singer and Cherie is of course nothing like a good singer.
:rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
I stole that from Noddy Holder: When Jim Lea was featured on When The Lights Are Out singing lead on a Slade album for the first time, Noddy mock-lauded in a Teen Magazine jingle for the album that featured it (Old New Borrowed & Blue) his bandmate's first time vocal appearance, adding helpfully: "People say there is nothing like a good singer and Jim of course is ... nothing like a good singer!

As Noddy surely agreed, Jim had a nice tuneful voice that fitted the Beatlish track perfectly, I even hear a bit of Lennon (Slade were Beatles buffs).

https://youtu.be/wSIqcuVZESU

Cheap Trick resurrected it a few years ago:

https://youtu.be/M2I_MHdE6ZQ


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2020, 04:17:24 PM
Not that sort of thing we play much on this forum but I heard this song yesterday for the first time in a long time and it hit me hard. RIP Maggie
https://youtu.be/9e3sqtoRG-Y

I really like it. I'm married to a folkie with a harmony vocals addiction. You have no idea what Spotify sometimes puts me through.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 01, 2020, 08:41:42 PM
https://youtu.be/SLQRW7J_D0U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2020, 07:10:09 AM
You will stop at posting "Don't Go Breaking My Heart", willya?  ;D

Freedom of expression, in the wrong hands, is a terrible thing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2020, 04:31:10 PM
You will stop at posting "Don't Go Breaking My Heart", willya?  ;D

Freedom of expression, in the wrong hands, is a terrible thing.

Don't go knocking Kiki.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2020, 07:39:18 PM
Don't go knocking Kiki.

You're right, I ru(e) that now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-esD-o4XrJ0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2020, 07:45:32 PM
Ok, back to music for grown ups with a positive outlook on life: Little Brian hasn't lost his penchant for gore, but he's become all melodic and relatively undissstorrrted (someone must have given him a modern mic!) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FniF0kSvWGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFP1INGxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu__TzWfpss

At this rate, he'll pick up all the fans of H.I.M. who have no way to go!


I have a soft spot for MM and always find his metamorphoses interesting. He is also a disturbingly sophisticated interview partner. Just the right Eine kleine Nachtmusik to lighten up your day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EefPcht54c

He also has an exquisite taste in Deutsche Popmusik, guess who played live at his wedding in a Scottish castle? Max Raabe did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_ScuWam7Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f4AuiotdEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3O-PLopk5g





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2020, 08:14:40 PM
You're right, I ru(e) that now.
...

In 1976, Elton John was still pretending to be straight in public. You can't blame Kiki for that.

Anyway, here's another light poppy male/female collaboration,

https://youtu.be/sYFwN-l46r8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2020, 08:17:52 PM
Ah yes, the lovely and also tragically late Kelly Johnson - as if Farrah Fawcett had picked up a Les Paul ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNWo93fPG8

Lemmy had a penchant for female voices, here is another protege, they're even from Berlin, Lemmy probably had high hopes they had found some Nazi memorabilia for him underneath all the rubble ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHYUYKy7xw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 03, 2020, 10:52:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qriZ40-ZGc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2020, 03:26:43 PM
Lemmy would have appreciated this öne nö döubt ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8_rf_MzMJ0

And Agnetha this here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUeoUlvB-e8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2020, 05:18:49 PM
I've been following Haim's development, the first two albums were neither here nor there, more dance pop than indie, not mirroring their live act and image at all. With their newish third album "Women in Rock, Part III", it seems like they have finally documented their style and found a sympathetic production that doesn't dilute it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2O_xa8cems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjuA_o6Jzyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpfJFotlENk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 05, 2020, 06:23:54 PM
Ah, the 80s.

https://youtu.be/cj1M3HPbNZI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 06, 2020, 05:17:42 AM
Alas!, tempus fugit ..., fresh-faced turneth to grizzled ...

(https://images.app.goo.gl/5Vxy65oizQkmp3d66)

https://images.app.goo.gl/5Vxy65oizQkmp3d66

He and Lemmy must share the same men's w(e)ar shop too.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 06, 2020, 11:51:28 AM
Talk about the eighties.

here's a reunion of a band that was huge back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbCEF4sYSiY

Excellent bass playing with a pick. Loud in the mix. Very articulate sound.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 06, 2020, 05:10:24 PM
I'm sorry, but FGTH without Holly Johnson doesn't work for me at all. This sounds like a mediocre tribute. It's like Queen without Mercury.

BTW, the original FGTH  were a hard rock outfit without success before Trevor Horn administered his "Island of Dr. Moreau"-studio wizardry treatment on them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 06, 2020, 05:40:11 PM
Stop whining and listen to the goddamn bass Uwe !  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 06, 2020, 07:51:59 PM
I hate to say it, but I've grown out of that sound! Stone me!!!

Very processed, very 80ies, very compressed, too trebly. It's been 30 years since I liked that sound, can't help it. It's essentially a Trevor Horn bass sound. He already sounded like that when he played bass on Video Killed the Radio Star.

But for the record and for the peace of mind of all unmarried Dutchmen without curtains that once thought Steve Harris' bass sound is good:  It is pleasingly executed and FGTH always had good bassists and an upfront bass sound the way Trevor Horn likes it. He's a lifelong YES fan (was over the moon when he got to join them and retained friend- and mentorship even after he left), so Chris Squire's sound and role obviously left an indelible mark.

Do I get off now or do I have to laud Led Zeppelin too?  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 06, 2020, 11:04:17 PM
I have no clue where you got the idea that I care that much about Led Zep? I own one CD of them (best of with the crop circles).  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2020, 08:51:41 AM
Years back, you came up to their defense when I was once again mindlessly ranting about them. But of course they are not up there in your Thin Lizzy pantheon. And Lynott's lyrics win any comparison to Robert Plant's hands down. I support you, don't you know?!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 07, 2020, 09:41:44 AM
Ah. Thin Lizzy, yes.
Led Zep, hmm... not so much. There's no denying they had a huge influence on lots of hardrock bands. I like Bonhams larger than life drums. But Pagey has always been too sloppy for my taste.

And the man is so full of himself that even to this day he still won't take the blame for the Live Aid disaster. Where he was sloppy drunk and/or high as a kyte, yet he put the blame on Phil Collins for the trainwreck that it was.
Fastforward to ± 7.21

https://youtu.be/XQaLlovphXI?t=441
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 07, 2020, 12:03:29 PM
Happened upon a plaque to Percy Heath while on vacation in Montauk at the eastern end of Long Island.

(https://i.imgur.com/hlxqfcz.jpg)

https://jameslaino.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/tribute-to-long-island-legend-percy-heath/

Turns out his brother Jimmy passed back in January. Hell of a year we're having. Here's an album the Heath brothers recorded in 78'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOE8vK6uvNI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2020, 05:58:37 PM
Ah. Thin Lizzy, yes.
Led Zep, hmm... not so much. There's no denying they had a huge influence on lots of hardrock bands. I like Bonhams larger than life drums. But Pagey has always been too sloppy for my taste.

And the man is so full of himself that even to this day he still won't take the blame for the Live Aid disaster. Where he was sloppy drunk and/or high as a kyte, yet he put the blame on Phil Collins for the trainwreck that it was.
Fastforward to ± 7.21

https://youtu.be/XQaLlovphXI?t=441

To their credit, they weren't the only under-rehearsed band at Live Aid. Quo were rusty, Sabbath insecure, The Cars lackluster. Jagger with Hall & Oates doing Just Another Night? A catastrophy.  It sounded like The Carpenters were backing him. :mrgreen:

Why anyone felt that Phil Collins and Tony Thompson of all people were the right drummers (both of them great in their own right) to emulate John Bonham is beyond me.  ;D It was kind of like asking Steve Hackett and Nile Rodgers to stand in for Angus Young in AC/DC. Cozy Powell (and a myriad other hard rock drummers weaned on Bonzo) could have done a better job in their sleep.

None of this shall put down Bob Geldof's superhuman achievement in putting Live Aid together. He got musical credit for it too in form of this little anthem:  When he made the greatest show on Earth to help a country to survive ...

https://youtu.be/gU_D6KyeGww

I always dug the quote of Do They Know It's Christmas/Feed The World in the coda of the Slade number.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 08, 2020, 08:39:17 PM
More 2020 losses.

Johnny Nash

https://youtu.be/NkwJ-g0iJ6w


Ray Pennington, Nashville songwriter/producer/record label owner and country singer, died in a house fire in a Nashville suburb. Golf cart in his garage caught fire and caught the house on fire. His wife escaped, he didn't. He was 86.

His most famous composition.

https://youtu.be/2UMjqu50mMM

https://youtu.be/R_b9iBEL0qQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 09, 2020, 01:18:49 PM
Oh, now I get it! On first reading - and "Nash" and "Nashville" confusing me - I thought, this guy with his beautiful soul falsetto sang C&W?  ???
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on October 10, 2020, 06:10:39 AM
Years back, you came up to their defense when I was once again mindlessly ranting about them. But of course they are not up there in your Thin Lizzy pantheon. And Lynott's lyrics win any comparison to Robert Plant's hands down. I support you, don't you know?!

Sounds like a litigator's grudge Rob.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 10, 2020, 07:34:23 AM
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 10, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
(https://images.app.goo.gl/km3wJF3nso8UkNx98)

https://images.app.goo.gl/km3wJF3nso8UkNx98
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 12, 2020, 09:58:39 PM
https://youtu.be/Sn-TXN0b6Bg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 13, 2020, 07:11:58 AM
Pure Reason Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNP9z70zms4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 14, 2020, 11:00:03 AM
Suitably dishevelled (as always), but "eight bars of (air) piano" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvRNRiA_h34

As a rock critic (and fan) once said: "They all looked like they had served together in some unsavory unit of the British Army ..."  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 14, 2020, 12:22:56 PM
Although both the album (Ultimate Sin) and the song are nowadays disowned by Ozzy, I always liked this particular track: Beware, the vid is 80ies-high-art-corny!  :mrgreen: (One of the girls looks like Wynona Ryder with big hair, but it's not her. But the guy seems to be Dweezil Zappa.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crltUo_ZFbU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on October 14, 2020, 10:18:58 PM
Although both the album (Ultimate Sin) and the song are nowadays disowned by Ozzy, I always liked this particular track: Beware, the vid is 80ies-high-art-corny!  :mrgreen: (One of the girls looks like Wynona Ryder with big hair, but it's not her. But the guy seems to be Dweezil Zappa.)

That white SG Junior is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise pink 80's video! As a sidenote, Youtube suggested AC/DC's new single 'Shot in the dark' . I wasn't even aware they had an album ready for release, thanks :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 14, 2020, 10:39:34 PM
Suitably dishevelled (as always), but "eight bars of (air) piano" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvRNRiA_h34

As a rock critic (and fan) once said: "They all looked like they had served together in some unsavory unit of the British Army ..."  :mrgreen:

Gypie Mayo was no Wilko Johnson, but he really shines here.

Lee Brilleaux was definitely one of a kind.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 15, 2020, 07:17:00 AM
Although both the album (Ultimate Sin) and the song are nowadays disowned by Ozzy, I always liked this particular track: Beware, the vid is 80ies-high-art-corny!  :mrgreen: (One of the girls looks like Wynona Ryder with big hair, but it's not her. But the guy seems to be Dweezil Zappa.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crltUo_ZFbU

Oh god, I remember that video. Terrible, but good for a laugh.  ;D I do remember Jake being known for not using a wang bar, even on his Charvel.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 16, 2020, 10:02:56 PM
Listening to Johnny Bush tonight. He passed today from pneumonia at 85. He had a lot of country hits, maybe best known as the writer and singer of Whiskey river, a hit for him in 1972 and for Willie Nelson in 1973.

https://youtu.be/IRJm9D0VmVk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 10:58:50 AM
Eric doing his sci fi fantasy schtick plus a fast guitar segment that sounds like it was lifted off an early Rainbow album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4TFfTSUbto

That new BÖC album towers head and shoulders over anything they have done in a long time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
And I see a great future for these guys too. It's not often that you hear a black female voice in a prog outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB9vV5z6w7k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 19, 2020, 11:07:43 AM


 It's like I'm 14, I still love this stuff, all four chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNhn1KOqq8g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 11:16:00 AM
Candy Givens and some guitar unknown, I had no idea a video of this existed ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9tcMqHlKgo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 05:12:11 PM

 It's like I'm 14, I still love this stuff, all four chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNhn1KOqq8g

Oh, this is a new song from them?! Same same, but no different.  :mrgreen: Angus even plays in a major key in the first few seconds of his solo - before he reverts to tried and trusted pentatonic minor.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
My fave current pop-rock outfit ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5e8C1nhe_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mZkE6RapFY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2020, 05:34:03 PM
I wonder what became of these guys here? I heard someone gave the guitarist a delay gadget and they all got haircuts to boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMHy_edKyxo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 20, 2020, 07:09:23 AM
Eric doing his sci fi fantasy schtick plus a fast guitar segment that sounds like it was lifted off an early Rainbow album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4TFfTSUbto

That new BÖC album towers head and shoulders over anything they have done in a long time.

Not bad. The fact that they don't seem entirely serious makes it work.

I can't really recognize the guys in their old age - who's original here? Is that Buck with the Music Man guitar? Eric on Steinberger? Who's playing the "symbol" guitar?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2020, 09:17:39 AM
Buck with the "West Coast", Steve Miller-akin pop voice (as on Reaper, Shooting Shark, Then Came The Last Days Of May or Burning For You) plays the Steinberger and has been doing so for ages, Eric (the monk-hooded singer in the vid) with the gravelly melodramatic voice (Godzilla, Cities on Flame, Dr. Music, Veteran Of A Thousand Psychic Wars, Harvester of Eyes or Astronomy) plays the "Symbol Guitar" (referred to as "Stun Guitar" on old BÖC albums), he rarely, if ever plays lead, but doubles on keyboards. The guy with the EBMM guitar is a "new" guy (though with the band for more than a decade): Richie Castellano. He is someone's relative here on the forum. Initially, the replacement for former Patti Smith squeeze Allen Lanier, he played more keyboards at the beginning of his tenure, but has by now become their third creative force (sort of like the Bouchard brothers were before they left), playing lead guitar and doing lead vocals on some songs. He wrote about a third (or more) of the new album and has really stepped up to the plate.

It's telling that you got confused about who is who - that was always the millstone round BÖC's neck: With all five of the original line up singing lead (as a result, BÖC's harmony vocals are idiosyncratic and hugely underrated), all of them playing guitar (the legendary BÖC guitar row during Buck's Boogie where even the drummer would strap a guitar and leave his drum stool), the original drummer (Albert Bouchard) also playing keyboards and guitar, one of the guitarists playing keyboards (Eric Bloom) and the keyboarder (Allen Lanier) playing guitar, nobody knew who was doing what at any given time! Eric Bloom once said that their individual versatility hindered their success, there was no frontman to latch onto for the audience. While Eric was no doubt their focal point during live shows (with Buck Dharma taking more spotlight over time as his songwriting and lead vocal share increased once the Bouchard brothers had left), he didn't sing the real big hits, Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser did (Eric's voice was a bit menacing and foreboding for ultimate commercial appeal - I continue to hold that it was an inspiration to James Hetfield's vocals).

That these guys - along with Grand Funk Railroad and J. Geils Band - aren't in the RHOF is a cryng shame. They epitomize "Yank thinking man's hard rock" to me, how many other US hard rock outfits can you think of that had lyrics penned by Patti Smith?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 21, 2020, 06:53:16 AM
Genuine thanks for the BOC history lesson. You're totally right about the front man thing and their image in general. I don't mean this in a bad way, but they were kind of "faceless". I do remember from the rock mags back in the day the sunglasses and Gibson SG with symbol inlay (I might be getting this wrong again) on Eric? (Uwe: Nope, spot on!) And of course Buck Dharma had an interesting name. I actually witnessed the "guitar row" at my first concert when they played before KISS on the Agents of Fortune tour in '76. You could NOT get away from the Reaper that summer! And "Burnin For You" will forever remind me of the 1/2 Hawaiian cutie Suzy that I dated early senior year (She had graduated the year before, gasp!). Their harmony vocals really were great. In the late 90s, I was in a band that sounded like Joy Division meets the Offspring and we did our own version of Reaper with 3 part harmonies.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2020, 10:43:43 AM
I became attracted to BÖC's image before I knew any of the music (except Cities on Flame, which I had on a cassette), I remember reading a CBS acts promo newspaper in a record store in the mid-seventies and it featured, inter alia, Aerosmith (who in an interview went out of their way to explain that they were neither New York Dolls nor Rolling Stones rip-offs, but inspired by Led Zep) and BÖC: They had this dark mysterious image and the weird name with the then unheard of Umlaut (they were the first - before Motörhead and Mötley), rumours prevailed that they were Nazis and/or Jews (neither was true, Eric Bloom is the only band member of Jewish descent, though their management and some outside songwriters were Jewish too). I then bought On Your Feet And On Your Knees (their first live album) and titles like "Harvester of Eyes" really gripped me.

As a frontman, a young Eric Bloom had something pleasantly urban and unsettling about him that wasn't dumb:

(https://imagez.tmz.com/image/73/o/2014/04/18/733bf9bc122b54c196e510ef48a56ae9_md.jpg)

He also had a voice that wasn't really nice or smooth, it even sounded a bit like he couldn't sing, when in fact he actually could:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtlLC6Lf5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jojnQxEtJHA

And they had a select taste in covers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPjKVyT8C-c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2020, 11:03:29 AM

 It's like I'm 14, I still love this stuff, all four chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNhn1KOqq8g

Yet more from the nordic and female answer to the above antipodeans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOW7Z-38cbU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 29, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
https://youtu.be/wQPlU5q1CBI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 30, 2020, 07:10:03 AM
https://youtu.be/wQPlU5q1CBI

Loved that! Is that Randy Jo Hobbs on bass? 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on October 30, 2020, 10:46:34 AM
Loved that! Is that Randy Jo Hobbs on bass?

Yes! BTW, that's the best lineup Johnny Winter ever had IMO.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 30, 2020, 12:20:58 PM
A Hofner in a volcano.  It's better to skip the first minute. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIU5NN1Q0g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 30, 2020, 01:19:02 PM
I've posted this before, but I keep coming back to my favorites.  I love to listen to the differences in the way Dick and Stevie play their solos....

I think Dick would says this is the most bitchin' version ever recorded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56SAxtf-RTg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 30, 2020, 09:27:39 PM
Loved that! Is that Randy Jo Hobbs on bass?

Yes! BTW, that's the best lineup Johnny Winter ever had IMO.

Yes, definitely Randy Jo. Somebody in the comments claimed it was Tommy Shannon.  ;D  Easy to tell those two apart.

Johnny's earlier blues trio with Tommy Shannon and Uncle John Turner was great too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on October 31, 2020, 04:20:50 AM
I had never seen that video with Stevie and Dick.  What a great show!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 31, 2020, 07:03:04 AM
Been watching this tales from the tour bus series by Mike Judge. He has episodes on a diverse group of acts from Johnny Paycheck and George Jones to James Brown and Rick James. This episode had me singing the song with a slight change in lyrics while trying to get my almost two year old to potty train.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbuDYMDqUo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 02, 2020, 12:27:07 AM
Listened to the Asleep At The Wheel anniversary show on ACL tonight.

https://youtu.be/xhTk9R9DlRY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 02, 2020, 08:30:45 AM
My buddy Johnny's dad Dennis Drugan played with Johnny Winter WAY back in the day. Hence his name...

I would love to know what the lineup was when I saw Johnny and Edgar in '76.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 02, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
https://youtu.be/NP-UNSv4DLs

You live and learn: I never knew that Don Brewer took the first verse in that song, it sounded like Farner to me and I assumed Brewer did the harmonies.  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 04, 2020, 07:14:02 PM
Yup, old men can sometimes rock things up.

https://youtu.be/fTqLf1A-Q-4

All very interesting.

https://youtu.be/glggureA_Kk

When I'm in a good mood, my music tastes turn eclectic.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 04, 2020, 09:42:09 PM
Georgia On My Mind is rocking things up? It's a Hoagy Carmichael tune from somewhere around 1930.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 05, 2020, 04:26:40 AM
George Harrison's cover of Hoagy Carmichael's "Baltimore Oriole."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEmW4PdB0so
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2020, 05:38:44 AM
Georgia On My Mind is rocking things up? It's a Hoagy Carmichael tune from somewhere around 1930.

But Dave! Sabotaging the allusive wit of my slyly subliminal posting on more recent electoral  developments through (feigned?) ignorance/non-comprehension is grossly unfair! Or a very clever ploy to defeat my ulterior motives. :rimshot:

Generally, CNN's reporting has no influence on my music choices, but I got carried away this time.  8)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2020, 08:46:08 AM
Cracker version of The Netherland's true national anthem:

https://youtu.be/FFjReNpCInA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 05, 2020, 10:18:01 PM
Uploaded August 27, 2020

It only took 50 years for an official Mississippi Queen video

https://youtu.be/qEnF6EB-yMs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2020, 05:26:15 AM
Ritchie Blackmore was a Mountain fan.

That was my trolling contribution just now.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2020, 06:03:26 AM
"Leading on a Midnight Count in Georgia" was always one of my favorite soul ballads even if I perhaps misheard the lyric ... I'm not a native speaker, nein.

https://youtu.be/HwbmufPphP0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2020, 07:39:37 AM
Today, I think I'll hear just three songs in power rotation:

https://youtu.be/XH5erXg6lH8

https://youtu.be/or0Qe5aCkRU

https://youtu.be/0z3efR2Fu18





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 06, 2020, 09:52:33 AM
Well done, Uwe. Thanks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 06, 2020, 11:15:53 AM
I've always said this: The Stars and Stripes Forever should be your national anthem. More than any other "official state song" it sums up American spirit. No other melody captures it as well and the music would fit with no other nation on Earth as well. With even its slight influences of what later on became Jazz, it is an amazing piece of music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 06, 2020, 12:02:31 PM
Sousa was a wonderful composer. His work beginning in the 1890's captured a spirit which reflected the country in a way that might not be possible today. There are a number of his works which I think would be worthy of becoming the national anthem, but "Stars and Stripes Forever" would certainly be up front in that list.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 06, 2020, 01:36:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3Jjt3_NeQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 06, 2020, 09:28:56 PM
No giant foot

https://youtu.be/XYD15VbSFNw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2020, 07:02:33 AM
That's a bit too college marching band for me with its shuffle rhythm.

The Stars and Stripes Forever is like a complex red wine to me, though a marching band song in nature as well, it elicits all these additional flavors. I even hear elements in it that would later become familiar from Bernstein and Gershwin, even Broadway musicals. That is why I deem it so American, it could only have been written by one of your very own. It sounds "red, white & blue" in an enchantingly optimistic way.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2020, 09:34:57 AM
Herzlichen Glückwunsch, liebe Amerikaner:

https://youtu.be/TSDp4zTiLEo

Just like one famous Limey once said, I paraphrase: You can always be trusted to do the right thing in the end - after having fastidiously exhausted all other available options, of course.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 07, 2020, 06:00:14 PM
That's a bit too college marching band for me with its shuffle rhythm.

The Stars and Stripes Forever is like a complex red wine to me, though a marching band song in nature as well, it elicits all these additional flavors. I even hear elements in it that would later become familiar from Bernstein and Gershwin, even Broadway musicals. That is why I deem it so American, it could only have been written by one of your very own. It sounds "red, white & blue" in an enchantingly optimistic way.

What a lovely comment. Thank you. I can only agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 07, 2020, 11:03:31 PM
That's a bit too college marching band for me with its shuffle rhythm.

The Stars and Stripes Forever is like a complex red wine to me, though a marching band song in nature as well, it elicits all these additional flavors. I even hear elements in it that would later become familiar from Bernstein and Gershwin, even Broadway musicals. That is why I deem it so American, it could only have been written by one of your very own. It sounds "red, white & blue" in an enchantingly optimistic way.

Mitch Miller ruined The Stars and Stripes Forever for me.

OTOH The Liberty Bell March has a special place in my heart.

https://youtu.be/2AxiATxLofk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 07, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
https://youtu.be/Mnx1cheoSkg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2020, 06:09:28 PM
Mitch Miller ruined The Stars and Stripes Forever for me.

OTOH The Liberty Bell March has a special place in my heart.

https://youtu.be/2AxiATxLofk

I had to listen to the Mitch Miller version first, it's friggin' awful!!!   :puke:

I never gave it a thought before, but I now realize why The Star-Spangled Banner reflects so little of the dynamic American spirit for me - it's a waltz! Very few national anthems are 3/4, I can only really think of God Save the Queen - and I never liked that either and wondered why the hell the Limeys had not chosen Land of Hope and Glory instead.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 08, 2020, 10:53:54 PM
Mitch Miller hated rock & roll. His awful TV show Sing Along With Mitch was an attempt to counter it.  He was also an A&R man for Columbia Records and resisted signing rock acts.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 09, 2020, 03:12:38 AM
Mitch Miller was a scourge upon humanity.  From the first moment I encountered him I hated everything that he did.  I was a kid and didn't know much, but I knew I simply could not stand Mitch Miller and whatever it was that he was trying to do against music. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 09, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
I didn't know you had a Joe McCarthy against rock'n'roll too!

Did he ever, uhum, concede he was wrong? That used to be good American practice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 09, 2020, 09:12:11 AM
If you can access it, this New York Times obituary offers a lot of info about him.  He said rock wasn't music, but a disease.  LOL.

I think these excerpts are particularly good.

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The ratings were good, but the critics were mostly unimpressed. Brooks Atkinson, writing in The New York Times, suggested in 1962 that “Sing Along With Mitch” might best be viewed with the sound turned off.

Even at the singalongs’ height, many Americans considered them hopelessly corny. That sense only intensified as a younger generation came of age in the 1960s and musical tastes changed. There were news reports that shopping malls had begun piping Mitch Miller music on their sound systems as a way to discourage teenagers from congregating. Years later, in 1993, when David Koresh and members of his Branch Davidian cult were holed up in their compound in Waco, Tex., F.B.I. agents tried to flush them out by blasting “Sing Along With Mitch” Christmas carols."

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/arts/music/03miller.html
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 09, 2020, 08:56:39 PM
Just heard this original. My band has been covering the J JGeils version for a few years, I never heard the original Philly soul version until now. https://youtu.be/PHmk620-xHE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 09, 2020, 09:07:48 PM
Did Geils tweak the chorus chords a little? Sounds different, the Geils chord progression is "rockier".

Still a shame that they aren't in the RRHoF. (That even rhymes!)

The Geils verses are pretty close to the original, but then the Bostonians were never really known for de- und reconstructing the arrangements of the songs they covered. They just gave them that slightly nervous tweak!

I saw Geils take a small hall/club in Germany apart circa around Love Stinks. They were by then well arena-honed from their US tours and blasted through a high-energy set oblivious of the rather modest venue they played in. Four encores - the last one after the house lights had already been switched on and people were shuffling out: Peter Wolf gyrates back on stage, grabs the mike stand, drops to his knees and hollers: "WHAMMA  JAMMA  ONE  MORE  TIME ??!!!" Just lovely. Among the top ten gigs I ever witnessed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 09, 2020, 10:37:30 PM
Johnny Rivers turned 78 a couple of days ago. Here he is in 2018.

https://youtu.be/PHu_ekAq5Js
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 10, 2020, 09:28:58 AM
That was nice! And it inspired me!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZGYLA_95k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkKZjqU9rBg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2020, 10:02:30 AM
I always like Johnny's cover of Willie Dixon's "Seventh Son" too.  It's 2020.  Johnny Rivers still isn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  Has the world gone completely mad?

https://futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Johnny_Rivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRS8FzSuLR8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on November 10, 2020, 04:57:06 PM
I always like Johnny's cover of Willie Dixon's "Seventh Son" too.  It's 2020.  Johnny Rivers still isn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  Has the world gone completely mad?

https://futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Johnny_Rivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRS8FzSuLR8

Agreed!  He should have been one of the first.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 10, 2020, 09:52:38 PM
He doesn't fit the RRHOF profile. They want the most famous and Johnny isn't famous enough. Whi(t)ney Houston and the Notorious B.I.G. are 2020 inductees. Neither were rock & roll by any stretch of the definition.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 10, 2020, 09:59:07 PM
Randy Travis (well before his personal and health problems) covering Brook Benton

https://youtu.be/SNKrBQCzQOI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2020, 11:59:01 PM
It wouldn't hurt anything if Saxon also got into the RRHOF.  Maybe not everyone in America is familiar with them, but Metallica knows who they are. 

https://www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Saxon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcx3OjNMlu4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 11, 2020, 02:12:09 AM
He doesn't fit the RRHOF profile. They want the most famous and Johnny isn't famous enough. Whi(t)ney Houston and the Notorious B.I.G. are 2020 inductees. Neither were rock & roll by any stretch of the definition.

Personally, I consider Johnny Rivers to be very famous.  His cover of Chuck Berry's "Memphis" alone would have got my attention.  Then you've got all the other memorable stuff he did.  What a unique artist. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 12, 2020, 10:40:16 PM
https://youtu.be/esRs3NcrqfY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 20, 2020, 11:27:51 PM
Listening to some songs from my childhood

https://youtu.be/0vOW6zDRA3o

https://youtu.be/4YPnpY_ut_Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 21, 2020, 04:51:43 AM
I vaguely remember "Young Blood."  The title reminds me of "Young Love" by Sonny James which I also vaguely remember.  Once when I was very young my parents took me to some kind of party.  Sonny James was supposed to be there.  But he never showed up.  I remember thinking I had never seen so much food on a table and so many people disappointed that someone didn't show up.  Whoever that hostess was, it's like she was heartbroken.  I have no idea what happened. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6rFbmP40dQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 22, 2020, 12:53:45 AM
Golden Earring from "Last Blast of the Century"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2kfdadrtbI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2020, 07:32:03 PM
An Italian earworm that was a big hit here even though nobody really knew what it was about. Every time it comes up in my playlist, I have to listen to it several times.

The story goes that it was a huge hit in Spain although no one could understand Renato Carosone's Neapolitan dialect. He was actually insulting a would-be torero.

Julius LaRosa did an English version but the lyrics were completely different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1HK4OH4tLs


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2020, 08:40:34 PM
I know that one!

Back to oldies but goldies and how they obviously don't relate to any certification news ...

https://youtu.be/Ja-GVZ-jKac

Peter Wolf was such a great frontman.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 24, 2020, 03:09:31 PM
The last two posts take me back to one of the first 45s I ever bought at a second hand store:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOrQTh_Cq7U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2020, 12:25:35 AM
The last two posts take me back to one of the first 45s I ever bought at a second hand store:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOrQTh_Cq7U

I always thought Johnny Otis was a black man. He was always associated with black musicians. It wasn't until I saw his obit a few years back that I learned he was the son of Greek immigrants.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2020, 11:29:02 PM
Every so often I have to listen to the Gits even though it makes me sad. What a tragic end.

https://youtu.be/_V_6yIvmzgw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 01, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
Live version of the Kinks "I'm Not Like Everybody Else." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y76ilaVZ5FM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2020, 09:13:34 PM
https://youtu.be/FEDT7QGDzsE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2020, 04:38:54 PM
Majestic.

https://youtu.be/EmBnz2bm5KE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 08, 2020, 01:39:01 PM
Wait... what... Fishbone reunited with the original lineup?? Just this week??? (Plus an extra guitarist)

Kendall "Special K" Jones has not appeared with them on guitar for decades ... Chris Dowd (keyboards, trombones, and on this track lead vocals) was gone for a long time though I know he has reunited with them before.
and... covering Alice in Chains? Who apparently they were friends with back in the day, I did not know that.
Anyway.... this rocks!!
Drummer "Fish" and his bassist brother Norwood Fisher are both still amazing...

https://youtu.be/o4gdl7lB1Ik

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 08, 2020, 02:02:40 PM
Très cool. I lik'em both.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 09, 2020, 08:20:41 AM
I loved those guys in the 90s. Saw them live a few times, and they were the hardest working band I'd ever seen. Did you ever see them doing that routine where they toss their horns WAY across the stage to a roadie on the sidelines?  8) I thought they suffered when Chris left. He was kind of the soul of the band I think. They seemed to get progressively heavier and angrier after that.

And watching some of that AIC special over the weekend reminded me of how much I loved them as well. Layne Staley was a force of nature. I only saw them once (Lolla '93). Layne was not in the best condition, and it was stupidly loud, but still a great memory.

I also discovered Tool on the side stage of that tour. Dinosaur Jr. were playing the main stage and I thought they kinda sucked, so I went to grab a beer. On my way back, I see a guy playing a Ric Chris Squire. Ltd. Ed. which stopped me in my tracks.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 09, 2020, 09:20:38 AM
I did see Fishbone once around 1989. Chris Dowd was wild, spinning the keyboard around and throwing the trombone over drummer Fish's head to a roadie. He would catch it mid-song too, and I swear sometimes he didn't even look, just plucked it out of the air and started blowing.  Angelo Moore was a madman. Walter Kibby spent the whole show dancing on top of some very high speakers. I was sure somebody in the band was going to get hurt. I didn't know any of the songs at the time except Freddie's Dead and I think I had heard UGLY at some point, so it was all pretty new to me.  Funny story - I went with my college roommate and his friend, and after the show I was thinking "that was the most energetic band I have ever seen", and the friend said "Man I don't know what was wrong, they were so low energy tonight, maybe it was the audience" and I said "... what are they USUALLY like??  :o"
 
I never did see AIC and think I didn't appreciate them adequately at the time. Some great riffs and the songs hold up.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 16, 2020, 11:39:14 PM
Listening to some of my favorite New Orleans music

https://youtu.be/Qa0LHXGg-dc

https://youtu.be/QmWt11bfxrY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 22, 2020, 12:09:36 AM
Juice!

https://youtu.be/1tatoOZ2-uw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2020, 05:38:23 AM
Oh my, that Southfork Ranch set look with the Mercedes convertible, I'm expecting voluptuous Pam Ewing to drop by any moment ...  :mrgreen:

I always preferred Dallas to Dynasty.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 22, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
OMG that was terrible.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2020, 09:18:02 AM
Wot, Juice, the vid, Pamela, Dallas or Dynasty?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 22, 2020, 10:11:20 AM
All of it. (except Pamela of course)
But mostly that video  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 22, 2020, 11:59:06 AM
I loved every bit of it. I'd also gladly exchange having my leg slammed in a car door for having to go through 2020. I also love what Clapton and Van Morrison have been up to. Glad to see some people in the entertainment industry with a little backbone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cCJMrNZa8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 22, 2020, 03:03:58 PM
All of it. (except Pamela of course)
But mostly that video  :mrgreen:

That video was awarded the 1982 Video of the Year by the American Video Association.  :mrgreen:  Seriously.

It was a followup to her Queen of Hearts, which I've posted here before. That video was one of the most popular on MTV in 1981, which was MTV's first year. Co-starring the late Otha Young, her longtime guitarist.

You'll probably hate it, too.  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/P0DK-0fIKCw

Since I viewed it last night, this popped up in my YT feed. Just posted 2 months ago, no idea who made it but I found it worthwhile.

https://youtu.be/wDwnIqUCImU



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 22, 2020, 03:22:12 PM
That video was awarded the 1982 Video of the Year by the American Video Association.  :mrgreen:  Seriously.

That is hilarious! Makes you wonder how godawful the other videos must have been  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 22, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
On MTV this is what the videos looked like in 1982.  These are just the choices of the person who wrote that.  I would have left off a few and added a few.  But this list is fairly representative of what was playing on MTV, IMO.  1982 also happened to be the year I fell in love with Patty Smyth.  Just saw a new video from her not long ago.  She had written a song about an old friend. 

https://musicjunkiepress.com/music/top-twenty-music-videos-from-1982/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2020, 04:39:11 PM
That video was awarded the 1982 Video of the Year by the American Video Association.  :mrgreen:  Seriously.

It was a followup to her Queen of Hearts, which I've posted here before. That video was one of the most popular on MTV in 1981, which was MTV's first year. Co-starring the late Otha Young, her longtime guitarist.

You'll probably hate it, too.  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/P0DK-0fIKCw

Since I viewed it last night, this popped up in my YT feed. Just posted 2 months ago, no idea who made it but I found it worthwhile.

https://youtu.be/wDwnIqUCImU

What most of you don't know is that Dave is a passionate line dancer.  It all comes out eventually.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 22, 2020, 11:32:47 PM
What most of you don't know is that Dave is a passionate line dancer.  It all comes out eventually.

No, but I'd like to dance with the front-and-center girl in the opening sequence.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 24, 2020, 04:22:20 PM
Sitting here watching and listening to the latest Brian Setzer Christmas Extravaganza!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1DD5I6mO4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2020, 06:43:32 PM
Nice stuff!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 24, 2020, 09:04:35 PM
https://youtu.be/06o-EYH9svs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 29, 2020, 09:09:24 PM
Those thieving magpies from ZZ Top!  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/J8ikLAxziuM

https://youtu.be/7wRHBLwpASw

And I don't think it's a coincidence either. Trapeze never quite made it  (members went on to more popular bands such as Deep Purple, Judas Priest and Whitesnake), but (though stemming from the British Midlands) if they had one happy hunting ground, then it was Texas where they befriended another, then still unbearded trio in the early 70ies and regularly gigged with them, you guessed it: ZZ Top.

https://youtu.be/YM8DXBZv3vs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 30, 2020, 07:24:40 AM
Trapeze could have been the inspiration  but it took Billy Gibbons to make it a hit. Speaking of inspiration, it seems Glenn Hughes took some from Mel Galley's singing. I thought it was Glenn singing at first listen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 30, 2020, 09:25:47 AM
Other way around: When Glenn went AWOL to the Purps, Mel become the lead singer for a few years, having to replicate Glenn's voice on the older songs. The ZZ Top inspiration was never sung by Glenn, it's from the first album (1974) without him where Mel has assumed lead vocal duties. The live version features Pete Goalby (later with Uriah Heep and at one point almost with Rainbow), the only (late) phase where Trapeze featured a lead vocalist who did not double on bass or guitar.

Another almost-famous-band: The criminally underrated Legs Diamond, often referred to as "the American Deep Purple" though I never found that comparison apt:

https://youtu.be/2k_dsQbL_l8

Cracker of a song!

PS: Ok, I now hear that the DP-comparison is not entirely baseless ...  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/4S8NZEpuqFI

https://youtu.be/jygDMekbV1M

Jon Lord could have sued!   :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 30, 2020, 02:08:33 PM
Uwe's classic rock knowledge has me half expecting to see him turn up one day on TV along with the other rock critics like Will Hodgkinson. AXS TV could probably fill hours of programing with Uwe just talking about Ritchie B and the Deep P.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 30, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
Trivial pursuit, nothing else. I'm good at memorizing what is total irrelevant to any sane person. I guess that is one definition of madness! Guilty as charged.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2020, 11:10:33 PM
A Minneapolis band from the 90s

https://youtu.be/v3-wQwwvY0U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 05, 2021, 04:56:18 PM
Johnny and Randy Jo duet

https://youtu.be/o5R_7unuvPI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 06, 2021, 08:50:51 PM
Sometimes, old songs all of the sudden become current again. A perceptive observation from four guys otherwise known as Black Sabbath:

https://youtu.be/BTxSNosJrDo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on January 07, 2021, 03:41:29 AM
Very appropriate :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 07, 2021, 03:46:05 AM
indeed... :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 07, 2021, 06:34:34 AM
Something inside me dearly hopes this is just a coincidence and not really him - he certainly should have heard Sabbath's Mob Rules often enough in his lifetime to know better ...  :rolleyes:

https://www.metalsucks.net/2021/01/06/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-reportedly-among-pro-trump-rioters-at-capitol/

It's embarrassing to me if a rock musician participates in something like what happened yesterday. Reminds me of a documentary of a Klansman I saw on TV some time ago and he was like the greatest Jimi Hendrix fan ever, his house decorated with Klan regalia and Hendrix memorabilia. He failed to see a disconnect. In his mind he had defined Hendrix as "not a black man".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 07, 2021, 08:23:11 AM
Well there's certainly no shortage of idiot rock musicians. What I could never understand is being a far right conservative and an artist at the same time.  ??? The delusion runs deep with these people. DT's Svengali skills are unlike anything I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 07, 2021, 08:28:36 AM
:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRE9vMBBe10&ab_channel=MitchMumby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY&ab_channel=PettyYou007
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 07, 2021, 12:33:18 PM
Well chosen.

I told my daughters to each get a copy of today's Denver Post and read it thoroughly, because yesterday is a day they will remember their whole lives.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on January 08, 2021, 02:20:27 PM
https://youtu.be/dcv1EFoaX-8

I stumbled across this today and found the sequencing and different mix to be really interesting. Paul's inventive bass lines really shine here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2021, 04:57:08 PM
Paul has a knack for playing things that would sound banal or even hilarious with most people, but when he does it, it's pure music in almost a Mozart kind of way. He is gifted.

Ian Paice, who played with him on the Run Devil Run-Linda's-death-grief-therapy album, once said: "He's the only bassist I've plaid with who does two-step on bass und it sounds like rock'n'roll, not country."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 08, 2021, 07:18:27 PM
I'm assuming Paul came up with all the bass lines himself.  But supposedly on "Abbey Road" George played bass on a few of the songs to make things easier for Paul.  Because John was in Scotland injured by an accident.  Paul was being overburdened in the studio for a while. 



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2021, 12:24:13 PM
Didn't Lennon play bass on Let It Be? Or was it Hey Jude? Some song where Macca was busy on the piano.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2021, 12:27:57 PM
I always dug the song since first hearing it in the late 80ies during a work stint in NYC. Saw the 'Unter (with Ronno) play live there too. But I never knew there was a video. Here's a love song to all you Yanks and your lasting cultural impact:

https://youtu.be/X67Scbwrdn4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 12, 2021, 01:40:01 PM
Didn't Lennon play bass on Let It Be? Or was it Hey Jude? Some song where Macca was busy on the piano.

I never tried to keep up with this too much.  But I think Lennon played the bass on both "Helter Skelter" and "The Long And Winding Road."  But Phil Spector disliked his bass on the latter so much, he tried to obscure it.  I'm really not sure about any other songs, but it's certainly possible there were others.

I think I've read that the bass on "The Long and Winding Road" was out of tune.  If you've listened to the bass on "Helter Sketer." that may sound a little better, but that's not saying much.  John Lennon simply was not a bass player. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2021, 02:33:04 PM
I always dug the song since first hearing it in the late 80ies during a work stint in NYC. Saw the 'Unter (with Ronno) play live there too. But I never knew there was a video. Here's a love song to all you Yanks and your lasting cultural impact:

You saw Hunter Ronson...? I saw them at the Hammersmith Odeon... spiffing gig... I believe that gig was released as part of his monster box set but not got that...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2021, 03:22:53 PM
Listened to this yesterday... melancholia set in due to a year since his passing rolling through...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8CbkW4ZSy4&ab_channel=TreborTV

Also ordered the R40 blu-ray whilst listening to him...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2021, 03:33:16 PM
Yeah, I saw them in some NYC club/theater in '88 where I had also seen Buster Poindexter/David Johansen a few weeks before or after. Great gigs, both of them.

In '90, I saw Hunter Ronson again in Frankfurt. Another great gig. Ronson was endlessly cool.

Since then, I've seen the 'Unter a few times more (and of course I have that mammothian boxed set), which mostly means travelling to Scandinavia or the UK - he hardly ever tours Germany,  neither he nor Mott the Hoople ever meant much here, sadly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2021, 03:39:58 PM
Listened to this yesterday... melancholia set in due to a year since his passing rolling through...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8CbkW4ZSy4&ab_channel=TreborTV

Also ordered the R40 blu-ray whilst listening to him...

And he's pronounced "Peert" as in "hear", not "Part" as in "heart", "Purt" as in "heard" or "Pairt" as in "pear".  :mrgreen:

Iconic drummer, may your rudiments paradiddle forever & in peace!

PS: Let's forget that Ayn Rand crush he had for a while.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2021, 05:10:49 PM
... PS: Let's forget that Ayn Rand crush he had for a while...

Attention all Kollectors of the Euro Federation... Brexit has confused the situation... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Cracker of a synth solo, they sure knew how to deliver the goods live ...

https://youtu.be/LWCCXScA2CM?list=RDLWCCXScA2CM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2021, 06:25:57 AM
It shows haw far live music has declined in the past 40 years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 20, 2021, 05:12:25 PM
Furlough has set in over here... 3rd week of lockdown post the Christmas period... so this week has been going through the BOC box set, and next was all the Foo Fighters, followed by the first two Roxy Music LP's... the K-Pax soundtrack rolled through next...
I've been doing this whilst repairing old PC's... about 30 of them... where they had been cluttering up space in two towers stacked up in my music room... newest was a scrapped W8 Pro that is now a W10 Pro and oldest is W95... :mrgreen:

I've been contemplating some classical works... I was gifted a few thousand CD's by an elderly customer that used to be a classical radio DJ... he was about 90 but passed on before CV19 hit... no one wanted them and the record companies just kept sending him the promos... to give you an idea of what I went through... there were about 200 Beethoven, 150 Motzart, about 80 Tchaikovsky, you name it, he had it... I promised I would find a home for them... they had become a millstone round his neck... filled my wife's old Zafira twice to clear them, and I mean back seats flat, to the roof full... he actually wanted to pay me for clearing them away... he was a piano and violin teacher... a musician all his life... rip Sir...
a lot of them have gone to good homes already...
Maybe some Wagner or Mahler's 1st tomorrow... maybe some Saint-Saëns... still got over 1000 to go through, at a conservative estimate...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 20, 2021, 06:17:06 PM
Furlough has set in over here... 3rd week of lockdown post the Christmas period... so this week has been going through the BOC box set, and next was all the Foo Fighters, followed by the first two Roxy Music LP's... the K-Pax soundtrack rolled through next...
I've been doing this whilst repairing old PC's... about 30 of them... where they had been cluttering up space in two towers stacked up in my music room... newest was a scrapped W8 Pro that is now a W10 Pro and oldest is W95... :mrgreen:

I've been contemplating some classical works... I was gifted a few thousand CD's by an elderly customer that used to be a classical radio DJ... he was about 90 but passed on before CV19 hit... no one wanted them and the record companies just kept sending him the promos... to give you an idea of what I went through... there were about 200 Beethoven, 150 Motzart, about 80 Tchaikovsky, you name it, he had it... I promised I would find a home for them... they had become a millstone round his neck... filled my wife's old Zafira twice to clear them, and I mean back seats flat, to the roof full... he actually wanted to pay me for clearing them away... he was a piano and violin teacher... a musician all his life... rip Sir...
a lot of them have gone to good homes already...
Maybe some Wagner or Mahler's 1st tomorrow... maybe some Saint-Saëns... still got over 1000 to go through, at a conservative estimate...

Here in the states some libraries have CD and video lending as part of their functions. There might be libraries interested...?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 21, 2021, 02:21:52 AM
Same here... all of ours do, afaik... The Gent in question was one of the senior musical teachers in my part of Scotland, so he had the contacts... all the schools, colleges and libraries declared no interest as most folks here (apparently) use the "digital" medium to dip into something, or so it appeared... His family declared no interest, not even in his piano... Most loaning sites can only hold an item so long due to space requirements if it will only be taken out once in a blue moon, so... He retired at 65 but continued to give violin and piano lessons until his hands failed him; he also became the Saturday night "Classical Jock" for a "hobby" until the station dropped the show, hence the reasons for the "reviewing" contacts... I only new him in his mid to late 80's and he was that independent that he was still driving when I last saw him aged 89...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 23, 2021, 10:43:02 PM
https://youtu.be/7HfkSzsyh1E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2021, 05:59:26 AM
Nothing like Ginger's aerobic smoking routine while playing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 25, 2021, 12:28:30 AM
Nothing like Ginger's aerobic smoking routine while playing.

 :mrgreen:

But he made it to 80.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 25, 2021, 05:53:56 AM
And he never grumbled either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 25, 2021, 06:13:14 AM
The ultra fast switching between the camera angles make watching this video a slightly epileptic experience :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 25, 2021, 09:11:45 PM
Well, don't be such a spastic about it then!

And thanks for the Gibbie book, unwarranted, but appreciated!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2021, 11:21:24 AM
Mongolia rocks - très cool ...

https://youtu.be/v4xZUr0BEfE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 26, 2021, 05:36:17 PM
Those guys are beasts! . . .In a good way.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 27, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
Oh my, this is right up Comrade Carlston's alley: car romantics in blonde ...

https://youtu.be/Xc1DlAKPo_s

Elliot Easton is such an underrated guitarist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 27, 2021, 07:53:02 PM
Introducing ... the one and only ...   

John Diva & The Rockets of Love ...

https://youtu.be/Spdnke5I-wQ

In case you missed Poison during the last two decades! Or maybe you didn't, these guys are still brilliant.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on January 27, 2021, 08:39:05 PM
Oh my, this is right up Comrade Carlston's alley: car romantics in blonde ...

https://youtu.be/Xc1DlAKPo_s

Elliot Easton is such an underrated guitarist.

I hadn't clocked this yet, but you're absolutely right, Uwe! I'll listen to Clem Burke play just about anything, too.

They've been playing another version of this Hu single for months on my local rock station. I guess you can say the Harley's do the trick here (even though I hadn't seen that until looking for the video today).

https://youtu.be/jM8dCGIm6yc?t=26
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 27, 2021, 09:16:14 PM
Eat your heart out, Mulan, bring on the Mongolian hordes!

Interesting how their language doesn't really sound like a Far-East-Asian idiom like Mandarin, Korean or Japanese. Closer to Turkish or Russian.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2021, 03:28:39 PM
That new stripped down, acoustic Steve Perry album? You might not like Journey, but this man can sing ...

https://youtu.be/q370b375NDs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 29, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
He can still sing, if that's new...
I already had the early Journey LP's and got Infinity as it was dropped off the import wagon from LHR... the record shop I temped in (in a place called Hounslow when I worked for BA at LHR on shifts) was one of the reps first ports of call on his way into London... got the 1st Van Halen the same way... so got to hear Perry fairly early on in his mainstream career... saw Journey for the Evolution tour (Pat Travers on support) so got to see him in his prime too... Steve Smith was on the drums then... got most of his Vital Information "jazz" material too...

A much overlooked "soundtrack" LP of theirs contained this gem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5u6v76NMZA&ab_channel=bloghardrock
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2021, 09:01:50 PM
Never heard that and I have all their regular albums with or without Perry. What soundtrack is this?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 29, 2021, 11:18:28 PM
Have I posted this already? For well over a year I have been regularly playing the three "act" live Kate Bush recording, Before the Dawn.
Great rhythm section in John Giblin and Omar Hakim.
I mostly skip the third act which is a live version of a CD that isn't one of my faves.
The rest - if you like Kate's theatrical style- is stunning.
If I could go back in time to any concert of the past 30-some years it would be this, no question.
Here's one of my faves:
https://youtu.be/s_2HoUqjQRc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2021, 12:03:07 AM
https://youtu.be/4kCYN2yXewk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2021, 12:04:19 AM
https://youtu.be/g3trZKhAAcI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2021, 05:46:17 PM
https://youtu.be/fC8bdHwdnsY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2021, 06:41:58 PM
D-D-D-Dave listens to B-B-B-Budgie.

This is a seismic event for my entrenched preconceptions.

I really need to think this thru.

He list-ens to Bud-gie ... Saul wasn't more surprised when he saw that bright light that turned him into Paul.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2021, 12:20:30 AM
It's not something I do regularly. It popped up in my YT suggestions.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 31, 2021, 06:21:23 AM
Never heard that and I have all their regular albums with or without Perry. What soundtrack is this?

You need to get out more... ;)

Dream After Dream, Japanese only release in 1980... nine tracks; three with vocals... most folks don't know it ever existed and I'm not sure it's available new... maybe Japan... I've sent pics to your phone and a link to your inbox here...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 31, 2021, 06:36:13 AM
A riff seldom matched anywhere... Just had to dig out my Budgie stuff; Wales' answer to (early) Rush... :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scIqFErh3v4&ab_channel=ScorpionsPriest

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2021, 12:19:33 PM
It's not something I do regularly. It popped up in my YT suggestions.

Ok, 'fessin' up time: I hacked your algorithm, Dave.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on January 31, 2021, 12:39:45 PM
A band that I completely missed out on...until a few nights ago....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVmoOLPissU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on January 31, 2021, 01:23:13 PM
A band that I completely missed out on...until a few nights ago...

Dick Wagner... rip... he made a stunning team with Steve Hunter...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on January 31, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
Dick Wagner... rip... he made a stunning team with Steve Hunter...

Yep. And Greg Arama - may he also RIP - was the bassist for Amboy Dukes on several albums. Great player IMO.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2021, 11:42:53 PM
40th anniversary of its release.

https://youtu.be/YhYXQ9Dz6IE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 01, 2021, 01:30:30 PM
Yep. And Greg Arama - may he also RIP - was a bassist for Amboy Dukes on several albums. Great player IMO.

Wow... long time gone... rip...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 01, 2021, 10:38:34 PM
In their prime

https://youtu.be/8Rn45_OO9rk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on February 01, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
In their prime

I saw them not long after that. Stunning amount of energy.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 02, 2021, 11:37:02 PM
Hilton Valentine, Founding Guitarist For The Animals, Dies At 77 (https://www.npr.org/2021/01/31/962582389/hilton-valentine-founding-guitarist-for-the-animals-dies-at-77)

https://youtu.be/0Fy7opKu46c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 03, 2021, 08:24:18 AM
RIP Hilton
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 03, 2021, 11:33:04 AM
In their prime

https://youtu.be/8Rn45_OO9rk

Hey, old Yank, when did you of all people first hear Dr Feelgood? I always wondered, they were such an English, not even European phenomenon. All their US tours (opening for, eg, Kiss) went nowhere. Like The Jam, you couldn't get arrested in the States if you wore suits on stage as a rock band in the 70ies. (The Jam opened in their trademark suits for BÖC on a US Tour and had "fairies!" yelled at them until by the end of the tour Weller succumbed and the band donned jeans and T-shirts - anathema to their Mod code -, the shouts stopped and they went down better.)

I heard of Dr Feelgood first in 1976, but only via the NME which raved about these proto-Punks/pub rockers from Canvey Island. They never went beyond selling out clubs in Germany while the similarly inclined Manfred Mann/McGuinness Flint-offshoot The Blues Band filled sizable halls around the same time. I preferred the Feelgoods though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 03, 2021, 09:49:10 PM
Hey, old Yank, when did you of all people first hear Dr Feelgood? I always wondered, they were such an English, not even European phenomenon. All their US tours (opening for, eg, Kiss) went nowhere. Like The Jam, you couldn't get arrested in the States if you wore suits on stage as a rock band in the 70ies. (The Jam opened in their trademark suits for BÖC on a US Tour and had "fairies!" yelled at them until by the end of the tour Weller succumbed and the band donned jeans and T-shirts - anathema to their Mod code -, the shouts stopped and they went down better.)

I heard of Dr Feelgood first in 1976, but only via the NME which raved about these proto-Punks/pub rockers from Canvey Island. They never went beyond selling out clubs in Germany while the similarly inclined Manfred Mann/McGuinness Flint-offshoot The Blues Band filled sizable halls around the same time. I preferred the Feelgoods though.

It wasn't from any airplay here, that's for sure. I read articles about them in a couple of magazines or newspapers, about 1973-74. Maybe Rolling Stone was one. That caused me to seek them out. Very few others in my orbit had heard of them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2021, 06:02:56 AM
I remember reading how they had recorded one of their early studio albums (first or second) in mono - intentionally so. That was strange news back then and it really mystified me. Who in the mid-seventies would voluntarily do anything in mono?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 04, 2021, 03:22:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAaCev41cX8


I have never been a huge Hughes fan. Not due to any animus, but other than a song here and there, he never grabbed me like other bands, bass players, or singers. But this album... He got me. That does not sound like a guy pushing 70. I have a sister his age and one ten years older; Glenn seems (and sounds) younger to me than either one.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on February 04, 2021, 11:47:04 PM
In an attempt to remove myself stylistically as far as possible from some stuff that I'm working on, re-visiting some music that I haven't listened to in literally decades. It must be 30 years since I last heard "Looking On" but I still like it a bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0A68eC3Jaw&list=PLA2-nXsHvm3JPwznWtj3mTVxluxAn1Ywb&index=5
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2021, 10:12:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAaCev41cX8


I have never been a huge Hughes fan. Not due to any animus, but other than a song here and there, he never grabbed me like other bands, bass players, or singers. But this album... He got me. That does not sound like a guy pushing 70. I have a sister his age and one ten years older; Glenn seems (and sounds) younger to me than either one.

Ah, look at George pandering to me! What's next, vocal support for collectivist big government intervention and Keynes deficit spending?  :popcorn:

That bass solo is kick-ass and says everything about Glenn's gung ho yet skillful style. The whole album is great, Glenn blossoms from Doug Aldrich's (ex-Whitesnake) playing (less overblown than with Whitesnake's cinemascope sonic onslaught) and co-writing plus it's great to hear Deen Castronovo's (ex-Journey) drumming and backing vocals. And the immensely wealthy Herr Lowy - a Richard Branson type figure - pays for it all, what's not to like?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2021, 10:27:47 PM
Ok, this ... is ... different ...

https://youtu.be/sBEULgmjnWk

https://youtu.be/7guPjoOCMCM

Staroulchild has released his inner Al Green! There have always been soul tracks hidden in Kiss' oeuvre, stuff like Shandi or Sure Know Something, but it's nice to hear him now tackle those grand arrangements. And it puts a lot less stress on his vocal chords than hollering for Kiss. His grunge excursions on his last solo exploit always sounded contrived to me.

Perhaps he should get a haircut though for his new Michael Bolton role. With his post-Sopranos look, he could also apply for a job with Little Steven & The Disciples of Soul.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on February 06, 2021, 04:50:56 AM
Okay... that was weird... one of those is stamped on my psyche due to the Guardians Marvel films... :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 06, 2021, 10:46:51 AM
Speaking of tunes I haven't revisited recently...I still have this original LP by the Electric Flag.  Mike Bloomfield, Buddy Miles, Barry Goldberg.

Killer blues music with a bass line that won't quit, and I appreciate it a lot more now than I did "back when."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3NpefijqrY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 06, 2021, 12:59:28 PM
Ah, look at George pandering to me! What's next, vocal support for collectivist big government intervention and Keynes deficit spending?  :popcorn:

That bass solo is kick-ass and says everything about Glenn's gung ho yet skillful style. The whole album is great, Glenn blossoms from Doug Aldrich's (ex-Whitesnake) playing (less overblown than with Whitesnake's cinemascope sonic onslaught) and co-writing plus it's great to hear Deen Castronovo's (ex-Journey) drumming and backing vocals. And the immensely wealthy Herr Lowy - a Richard Branson type figure - pays for it all, what's not to like?

I think we know the answer to that first question...  :mrgreen:

But seriously, manufactured and bankrolled like a Geritol boy band or not, this combination of players hit on something that sounds better (and more authentic) to me than Glenn's last (other?) foray into a quasi supergroups (BCC). Also, you answered my question as to how this was being produced. I hope Mr. Lowy has the scratch and desire to let this last a while.

I thought of you when I stumbled across this little ad/teaser for the new album and the longer it played the more funny I found it (it's hard not to see Spinal Tap in every hard rock band's documentary), but the more interested I got as well.

And Deen is like almost every decent drummer I ever worked with. The ADHD is fizzling over the brim with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpQYasznSw4


Ok, this ... is ... different ...


Perhaps he should get a haircut though for his new Michael Bolton role. With his post-Sopranos look, he could also apply for a job with Little Steven & The Disciples of Soul.

Like Little Steven, all he'd really have to do is change his wig.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2021, 11:05:33 AM
"The ADHD is fizzling over the brim with him."

Brilliantly put, the guy's a hoot! Lovely - unless you have him around 24/7 of course.  ;)

Thanks for that studio clip, hadn't seen it, Aldrich seems a genuinely nice guy.

PS: Oooooops ...

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/deen-castronovo-quits-dead-daisies/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 07, 2021, 03:13:54 PM
Well, hopefully that back surgery isn't a cover for anything more damaging to his career and reputation. I think Tommy will fit in nicely.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2021, 06:22:52 PM
Where is PROG-Tom when you need him? Isn't this something for you?

https://darwin.is/

Simon Phillips is such a cool cat.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 08, 2021, 09:42:13 AM
Where is PROG-Tom when you need him? Isn't this something for you?

https://darwin.is/

Simon Phillips is such a cool cat.

That's a new one on me. I can't keep up with all the supergroups! Didn't know Matt Bissonette was a singer. This sounds like something that would be on Frontiers Records. A little on the AOR side for me. Sherinian and Philips have done a couple of records that are more up my alley - Oceana and the Phoenix.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 08, 2021, 12:23:17 PM
That's a new one on me. I can't keep up with all the supergroups! Didn't know Matt Bissonette was a singer. This sounds like something that would be on Frontiers Records. A little on the AOR side for me. Sherinian and Philips have done a couple of records that are more up my alley - Oceana and the Phoenix.

I second this. I know it's more AOR than prog because I kinda like it. No dis to prog at all; I appreciate it, just never been able to get into of most of it. Those clips Robert Frip has been doing with his wife on YouTube have made me want to look into King Crimson though. I feel like I should buy some CDs so they'll be able to buy her a bra at some point.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 08, 2021, 12:25:08 PM
George!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on February 08, 2021, 10:10:57 PM
Those clips Robert Frip has been doing with his wife on YouTube have made me want to look into King Crimson though. I feel like I should buy some CDs so they'll be able to buy her a bra at some point.

What a lovely chap he is :)

Start out with 'red' and it's no way back 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 09, 2021, 12:31:43 AM
George!

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 09, 2021, 07:28:40 AM
Must be a cold winter at Robert and Toyah's house. Speaking of cold, I've been listening to this one of the Who's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nuAyNQBXI

Some of my favorite playing and tone by John. This is a P-bass with rotosounds played with a pick correct?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 09, 2021, 09:09:43 AM
George!

I'm getting some backup from the west coast!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2021, 09:23:20 AM
King Crimson's Red is a great album to get all sorts of women to leave your house/apartment quickly. A real one-night-stand-hangover-antidote ("Mind if I put on some music for breakfast, I listen to this all the time ...").
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Post by: uwe on February 09, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
I'm getting some backup from the west coast!

As regards wimmin wearing bras (not) or what? Go back to your room and play with your odd meters!
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Post by: Highlander on February 09, 2021, 02:55:17 PM
I've got a clamp meter that reads up to 600A... it's analogue...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 10, 2021, 09:27:19 AM
King Crimson's Red is a great album to get all sorts of women to leave your house/apartment quickly. A real one-night-stand-hangover-antidote ("Mind if I put on some music for breakfast, I listen to this all the time ...").

I got lucky and found the right gal at age 18. When we moved in together and combined our record collections, we ended up with "doubles" of Genesis, Rush, FM, Peter Gabriel, UK, etc. And she's cute!  ;D
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Post by: amptech on February 10, 2021, 11:00:03 PM
King Crimson's Red is a great album to get all sorts of women to leave your house/apartment quickly. A real one-night-stand-hangover-antidote ("Mind if I put on some music for breakfast, I listen to this all the time ...").

I saw Allan Holdworth clear the room for wimmin' at at a festival gig once. After 5 minutes they started to look at their wristwatches, and
when 20 minutes or so had passed they all ran out out of the room. At least they could have waited for the first song to finish?  :P
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Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2021, 02:59:34 PM
It's Moe Bandy's 77th birthday today. I'm sure you all knew that already.  ;)

Written by Ian Tyson of Ian & Sylvia. Also covered by Judy Collins and Suzy Bogguss, but Moe's is my favorite.

https://youtu.be/C5r2uXFHc4Y
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Post by: uwe on February 14, 2021, 05:55:45 PM
Why hasn't this song yet been elevated to the LBO's official anthem?

https://youtu.be/_6e5nE2SXYU

https://youtu.be/gV8sXpa_T4k
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Post by: Dave W on February 16, 2021, 11:22:09 PM
https://youtu.be/cqdsHaqXtKQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 19, 2021, 05:43:05 AM
New Del Amitri song out today

https://youtu.be/fDQzHNOV4Ok
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Post by: morrow on February 19, 2021, 07:44:22 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pYApe_KN7qw

A bit on the folkie side , but they reminded me of early Union Station .

Ordered the cd .
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Post by: OldManC on February 19, 2021, 12:52:08 PM
New Del Amitri song out today

https://youtu.be/fDQzHNOV4Ok

I got the email from their record company sometime in the night and have listened through a few times today. I would have liked hearing a more Dels sounding album (rather than another Justin Currie solo album), but in the end I won't complain or turn down music from them either way. I like this song.
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Post by: Pilgrim on February 19, 2021, 02:11:46 PM
New Del Amitri song out today

https://youtu.be/fDQzHNOV4Ok

Never heard of them before.  I like the voice and the music.  I get the feeling there are lots of metaphors in the video, but I confess that I'm really bad at spotting or understanding those metaphors.
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Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2021, 02:34:46 PM
Never heard of them before.  I like the voice and the music.  I get the feeling there are lots of metaphors in the video, but I confess that I'm really bad at spotting or understanding those metaphors.

IIRC their only single to chart in the US was Always The Last To Know (early 90s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN0hd5K9hDM
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Post by: Basvarken on February 19, 2021, 03:13:03 PM
Never heard of them before.  I like the voice and the music.  I get the feeling there are lots of metaphors in the video, but I confess that I'm really bad at spotting or understanding those metaphors.

Really? Oh wow!
They're one of my favorite bands.

They made a some great albums. Twisted is my favorite. And Change Everything is a close second.


They did have more singles that charted in the USA, Dave.
Roll To Me got to number 10
And Kiss This Thing Goodbye to number 35.


Here's another cool song of theirs (from Change Everything)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmf5aW9ypo
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Post by: westen44 on February 19, 2021, 04:02:00 PM
^^^
That video isn't available in the U.S.
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Post by: Basvarken on February 19, 2021, 04:16:38 PM
Oh that's a shame. :o
Does this one work?
It's a live version of the same song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWx3NOFqHr4
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Post by: westen44 on February 19, 2021, 06:18:27 PM
That one works. 
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Post by: Rob on February 19, 2021, 06:38:42 PM
"Nice stuff!
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Post by: Highlander on February 20, 2021, 02:38:36 AM
Del Amitri... Scottish act... originally from Glasgow...

This lot was on while I was working in the music den yesterday...
Sort of blinked and they were gone... I had never listened to either of their releases before yesterday... knew I liked several of the songs I'd heard before though... rip Scott Weiland...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Q2IARJbSk&ab_channel=Live8
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Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2021, 10:30:55 PM
https://youtu.be/TkEJkOePTD8
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Post by: uwe on February 22, 2021, 03:07:47 PM
Del Amitri... Scottish act... originally from Glasgow...

This lot was on while I was working in the music den yesterday...
Sort of blinked and they were gone... I had never listened to either of their releases before yesterday... knew I liked several of the songs I'd heard before though... rip Scott Weiland...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Q2IARJbSk&ab_channel=Live8

I'm not much of a grunger (Alice in Chains perhaps excepted), but I always liked how Weiland used his voice (kind of like David Bowie did) and fronted Velvet Revolver. Much more entertaining und interesting to me than Axl's samey banshee wail borrowed off Dan McCafferty and Janis Joplin.
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Post by: TBird1958 on February 23, 2021, 09:03:13 AM


 Aussies........Older and a little newer.

I dig this, there's even a quick Firebird shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfSBCgix5O0


 I love this band, ACDC 2.0! I guess you could dismiss this as simplistic but good simple music isn't all that easy to create - This just arouses the ever present teenager in me (I'm effing 62!).

   https://youtu.be/Pn0w7vciQCE

If you're Lemmy approved, that likely says something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2IyX5LXGyg
 




   
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Post by: Basvarken on February 23, 2021, 12:59:42 PM
You can hear the Nuno Bettencourt connection in that Baby Animals track
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Post by: uwe on February 28, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
There you have it, BÖC invented grünge ...

https://youtu.be/PQmlGyiK8B8
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Post by: uwe on February 28, 2021, 04:17:39 PM
Lou would approve:

https://youtu.be/wmkf57yffT0

Channeling his inner Beatles:

https://youtu.be/C7uakxd4X80

Nicely garage-y (he's always best at that, not really at hard or heavy rock):

https://youtu.be/8U0QhxO2kjQ

https://youtu.be/mi-OYHTjypo

Whenever Aunt Alice und Bob (Ezrin, see also ------> Deep Purple) work together, it's worth a listen. Wayne Kramer (= MC5, for our younger subscribers) is all over the new album.

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Post by: Dave W on March 03, 2021, 10:56:55 PM
Brian Henneman is retiring, the Bottle Rockets will be no more.

http://www.bottlerocketsmusic.com/goodnight-ladies-and-gentlemen/

https://youtu.be/YXpqTuJOnTw

https://youtu.be/v1vfWjRxo1Y

https://youtu.be/YgRmzlsAvQ4
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Post by: uwe on March 04, 2021, 08:38:57 AM
A Peavey guitar in this day and age, that's heartwarming ...
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Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2021, 10:58:10 PM
He has used it often on stage over the years.
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Post by: uwe on March 05, 2021, 06:47:29 AM
If it is as reliable and indestructible as its bass siibling, it will easily outlive him ...
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Post by: ajkula66 on March 07, 2021, 01:06:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKtIiPubWU
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Post by: Dave W on March 08, 2021, 01:54:51 AM
https://youtu.be/GrspovTn5kc
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Post by: Rob on March 08, 2021, 05:43:51 PM
Nice!
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Post by: Dave W on March 08, 2021, 10:26:07 PM
https://youtu.be/IHe6jTc0J6g
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Post by: Dave W on March 09, 2021, 09:41:22 PM
Always liked this despite the ridiculous lyrics.

https://youtu.be/g8XiNKsKyVk
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Post by: gearHed289 on March 10, 2021, 08:16:44 AM
Always liked this despite the ridiculous lyrics.

https://youtu.be/g8XiNKsKyVk

Even as a little kid who knew nothing about musical instruments, I loved the guitar intro to that song. That and the title were enough to fascinate me.
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Post by: TBird1958 on March 10, 2021, 09:05:45 AM


 All props to The Hollies for the original.......


This is much more my speed.

https://youtu.be/pjDrZJ_zE2w?list=TLPQMTAwMzIwMjG4PzVK6kqxkw
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Post by: Pilgrim on March 10, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
I've been hearing this for some time, and it sticks in my head...but since all the only lyrics I can understand are "I'm Just a Girl" it took me a while to Google it.  I looked up the lyrics and I think they're fantastic.  I wish groups would mix their stuff so the lyrics are actually audible.  Of course, I've been complaining about that for 50 years.

This probably has the best guitar hook that I've heard in years.  For me it's a real ear worm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg
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Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 07:45:04 AM
(för Tom H.) Love-ly Prog-gie, meter-boy, start counting out ze beats, will ya?  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/9KNVyoey-Tg

https://youtu.be/RFh7z3wzviI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 07:55:02 AM

 All props to The Hollies for the original.......


This is much more my speed.

https://youtu.be/pjDrZJ_zE2w?list=TLPQMTAwMzIwMjG4PzVK6kqxkw

But Mark, it's a bit lifeless, ain't it? They've taken all the CCR vibe out of it.

Also good for reminding us how great a singer Allan Clarke was. Not everyone is, some people's voices can be real theatres of pain. I saw the Hollies live in my hometown around 1977 (classic line up, Hicks/Clarke/Sylvester) kind of wondering what to expect and they were lovely and note-perfect. LCW was their final encore and they really brought the house down with it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 08:16:54 AM
I've been hearing this for some time, and it sticks in my head...but since all the only lyrics I can understand are "I'm Just a Girl" it took me a while to Google it.  I looked up the lyrics and I think they're fantastic.  I wish groups would mix their stuff so the lyrics are actually audible.  Of course, I've been complaining about that for 50 years.

This probably has the best guitar hook that I've heard in years.  For me it's a real ear worm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg

But aren't you a little belated as a No Doubt fan, nor really their core audience?  ;) Alas!, never underestimate the long term effects of an attractive waistline  on best agers ...

Their music was never dumb and had its appeal especially with women, but Gwen's voice never did much for me and her artificial looks only reinforced that with me - too platinum blond, too thinned out eyebrows, too much make-up, too everything. Good bassist though. The riff is unfortunately too major-y for me, my dark brooding Yuropean Seele prefers minor-y riffs.

I once played with a girl singer in the 90ies who loved everything Stefani sang, she matched her vocal style, but - unlike Stefani - she herself was totally unable to create a vocal melody over a few chords, not one note - we'd spend hours in the rehearsal room playing things to her. It was baffling. She needed precise guide vocals for everything.
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Post by: gearHed289 on March 11, 2021, 09:27:02 AM
(för Tom H.) Love-ly Prog-gie, meter-boy, start counting out ze beats, will ya?  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/9KNVyoey-Tg

https://youtu.be/RFh7z3wzviI

Leave it to Uwe to find an album with Graham Bonnet AND Joseph L. Turner singing on it.  ;D

I'm generally not a fan of Billy Sherwood productions, but this sounds pretty good. Putting the drums in 4/4 on the Gabriel tune adds some interest, but I think the song suffers for it.
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Post by: TBird1958 on March 11, 2021, 10:40:57 AM
But Mark, it's a bit lifeless, ain't it? They've taken all the CCR vibe out of it.

Also good for reminding us how great a singer Allan Clarke was. Not everyone is, some people's voices can be real theatres of pain. I saw the Hollies live in my hometown around 1977 (classic line up, Hicks/Clarke/Sylvester) kind of wondering what to expect and they were lovely and note-perfect. LCW was their final encore and they really brought the house down with it.
   

 Getting rid of the original bass line is actually why I like this, well the snarly guitar too. I have no problem with the original, but I like this as an update.

This kills the CCR vibe, I like it no so much. Even a Ricky can't save it. 


  https://youtu.be/F1DJFNSideQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 04:30:41 PM
Funny, I actually like that Clutch version though Fortunate Son is among my least favorite CCR tunes ever - with all due respect to the poignant lyric.

Vince's musical abilities are limited and outside of Mötley Crüe it is especially apparent. But who am I ... my favorite Crüe album is still the one with Corabi. And I have to admit that I didn't hear his work with The Scream until a few weeks ago and was - all overt Zeppelinisms aside - pretty much smitten ...

https://youtu.be/0c1LPNhW2Ks
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 11, 2021, 05:05:36 PM
But aren't you a little belated as a No Doubt fan, nor really their core audience?  ;) Alas!, never underestimate the long term effects of an attractive waistline  on best agers ...

Their music was never dumb and had its appeal especially with women, but Gwen's voice never did much for me and her artificial looks only reinforced that with me - too platinum blond, too thinned out eyebrows, too much make-up, too everything. Good bassist though. The riff is unfortunately too major-y for me, my dark brooding Yuropean Seele prefers minor-y riffs.


I figure that if I have managed to appreciate music from the "twenty-oughts," then I'm coming along nicely. To me, No Doubt is a new group. I can tell that many others here know a great deal more about contemporary music than I do, and that's OK.  I keep finding tunes from the last 20 years that I like.

As they say in Texas, "even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then."
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Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 05:17:25 PM
That's fine, I'm currently in the process of discovering Leon Helm, Rick Danko and Garth Hudson solo albums - up to now, I had only curated Robbie Robertson's work outside of The Band. Speaking of which, that new Stage Fright remaster together with the '71 RAH live gig in London bonus disc is a cracker.
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Post by: TBird1958 on March 11, 2021, 06:31:17 PM
Funny, I actually like that Clutch version though Fortunate Son is among my least favorite CCR tunes ever - with all due respect to the poignant lyric.

Vince's musical abilities are limited and outside of Mötley Crüe it is especially apparent. But who am I ... my favorite Crüe album is still the one with Corabi. And I have to admit that I didn't hear his work with The Scream until a few weeks ago and was - all overt Zeppelinisms aside - pretty much smitten ...

https://youtu.be/0c1LPNhW2Ks


 I think Creedence got the groove right, Fortunate son is a fave for sure.

Vince's musical abilities are limited inside and outside of the Crue!  ;D


 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 11, 2021, 07:43:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmvaMIrWRek

Vince has his limits, both live and in the studio, but when he's on I think he sounds great. Here's his best cover ever (IMO). It helps that he brought Peter along for the ride (and I have to admit I'm probably partial to it due to his guitarist here being someone I knew in high school). Still though, I'd say they paid respect to the original while still kicking it up a (metal) notch.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 08:06:47 PM
Lol, you hear more Peter than Vince in the mix!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 11, 2021, 09:20:15 PM
Speaking of Rick, this was on today's playlist. 1987 reunion tour, Tokyo.

https://youtu.be/soNjW2eZ0pU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2021, 09:30:32 PM
Without Robertson, they somehow began to sound (a) Little Feat'ish.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 12, 2021, 01:09:38 AM
Without Robertson, they somehow began to sound (a) Little Feat'ish.

But Rick still sounds like Rick.
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Post by: uwe on March 12, 2021, 07:56:44 AM
He does.
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Post by: Basvarken on March 12, 2021, 10:16:37 AM
Been listening to John Waite all day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1Uy-6cgHo



Forgot he played bass in the Ringo Starr all star band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTHmI-PNjU



With the Babys sporting an EB-3
Lip-sinced, but a different version than on the album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw2BEfbYGw4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2021, 05:58:40 PM
I always find that he sounds like Don Henley. That's not a criticism. Is he still married with Frau Krauss, has he forgiven her that shameless flirt with "squeeze me til the juice runs down my legs"-Robert Plant? They (John and her!) always looked like a nice couple.

https://youtu.be/xQEynF9bO0o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 13, 2021, 04:15:10 AM
I have known his voice for so long, I just hear John Waite.
But yeah, I think I know what you mean.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2021, 07:15:16 AM
You dodged the question about the marital status!

And don't let once Chysalis artists such as Phil Mogg and Ian Anderson ever catch you say you like The Babys - the former label goody-goody teacher's pets rub them the wrong way to this day.  8)

https://youtu.be/KFkjJJXc1XM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 13, 2021, 07:43:25 AM
You dodged the question about the marital status!

Because I have no idea. I'm not really interested in his love life.

And don't let once Chysalis artists such as Phil Mogg and Ian Anderson ever catch you say you like The Babys - the former label goody-goody teacher's pets rub them the wrong way to this day.  8)

I don't think John Waite has that many happy memories about that label. They basically dropped the ball on them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 13, 2021, 10:31:08 AM
I hadn't noticed it, but I could easily have mistaken that performance for Don Henley.  Go figure.  (American for "huh.")
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 13, 2021, 11:55:41 AM
Is he still married with Frau Krauss, has he forgiven her that shameless flirt with "squeeze me til the juice runs down my legs"-Robert Plant? They (John and her!) always looked like a nice couple.

https://youtu.be/xQEynF9bO0o

On John Waite's website:

"The upside of Downtown was dueting with Alison (Krauss) on “Missing You”. She was working on Raising Sand at the time with Robert Plant so I got to know Robert quite well. Nice guy. We were always on the verge of going for a pint. I wanted to pick his brains on Sandy Denny and the Incredible String Band. I regret not getting to know him better. Friendly guy."


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2021, 01:58:20 PM
Rob, you're a gifted bass player and builder, but the world's lousiest yellow press source, I have to say!  :mrgreen: All we now know is that John was more interested meeting Robert Plant than his wife!

Sigh, Dutchmen, a useless lot.  :-X

Chrysalis only gave up on The Babys after believing for years that they would be their Foreigner. And telling every other act on their roster that they should be more like them. Which both Phil Mogg and Ian Anderson would have found hard going I believe.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 14, 2021, 12:11:05 AM
Krauss was never married to Waite if that's what you are asking...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2021, 12:40:22 AM
Since John Waite's name keeps coming up, I'm just going to post this on this thread.  If anyone asked me why I liked Golden Earring, I would show them this John Waite interview.  It's the best analysis of what makes Golden Earring tick that I've ever seen. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE-a68tv5k8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 14, 2021, 03:41:27 AM
Yeah Rinus is very cool.
John Waite being a bass player himself, obviously recognises that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2021, 04:44:35 AM

I liked how he noted Golden Earring took American music as raw material and made it into their own.  Whether this was intentional, I don't know.  But it worked out well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 16, 2021, 10:36:51 PM
Emmylou with an all-star cast, 1977

https://youtu.be/Bbaz_T6BN3g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2021, 01:18:22 PM
One of my favorite Merle singles. Big hit in 1978, almost forgotten today.

https://youtu.be/z2W_baEBfhk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 23, 2021, 02:46:22 PM
That reminded me a a favorite of mine which I hadn't heard in a while. This is a very pleasing tune for the bass player - the bass line adds a beautiful  bottom to this tune. A simple tune to play, but a rich, full bass makes a huge difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nopBvlKfYgY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2021, 09:00:34 PM
https://youtu.be/m6hzkBihaew
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 27, 2021, 06:14:33 AM
Like everything he does - lovely!

"Do you remember Rick Astley? He was ghastly."

 :mrgreen:

And his lovingly done BCR pastiche:

https://youtu.be/UI5ofPLKFps

Speaking of ... I always dug them even though as a guy you weren't supposed to. But when I read that Joey Ramone liked them too, I could let my inhibitions go. 8) Underneath all that tartan lurked a decent band with good hamony vocals and a certain swing, they were less heavy-handed than, say, Sweet.

https://youtu.be/a5vKD71csuU

"Exploding jeans" and all that, yeah. Where was stretch denim when we really needed it?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 28, 2021, 12:56:48 AM
Shades of Lubbock influence.

https://youtu.be/MxavflboWKE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
So I got his new solo album now and what can I say ... I like it. I'm fully aware it's sugary corny retro soul kitsch, but I still like it, must be an age thing. I've always had a soft spot for Motown, Phillysound and Disco. And it's nice to hear Paul croon (mostly), rather than scream his balls off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40gsFY0fnu0

He always had a white soul touch in his writing ... and that bass line is to die for. It's one of my favorite Kiss songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSURhxNYmDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKkSnu70Tc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 05, 2021, 09:08:55 PM
Listening to some early Jerry Lee, a couple of my favorites even though lesser known.

https://youtu.be/Nz28-fbTR54

https://youtu.be/eEdWNwYOWk8

The former written by a then-unknown Charlie Rich, the latter written by the late Jack Clement, born 90 years ago today.

https://youtu.be/HrdBA2vHB4k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 07, 2021, 02:08:51 PM
Back then when no one could touch him ... This is a live performance from '72 two months before the song even had come out, no one knew it, Elton's effortlessness drives tears to my eyes ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_QZe8Z66x8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 07, 2021, 08:10:50 PM
John Prine, gone one year today.

This is from The Missing Years, released in 1991. I saw him in early 1992 and he told the same joke he tells here.


https://youtu.be/e58y60Ozhxs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on April 07, 2021, 11:37:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFIcEk3Jcw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 08, 2021, 10:21:19 AM
That was nice, reminded me of Captain Beyond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2kGl2y6Lk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 08, 2021, 11:08:46 AM
Going through a Molly Hatchet phase right now ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=893KDHvSLOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TvzDlyWJOM

I can never make up my mind whether I like Danny Joe Brown or Jimmy Farrar better fronting MH, originalists will always prefer DJB, but JF  reminded me of David Clayton-Thomas of BS&T sometimes.

DJB towards the end with his ill health, but even on a bar stool and recovering from a stroke the stricken man still belted ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM6PidbXh2Y

Hey, what's that UFO guy doing there?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndqs9T2PkEM


That band really had tough luck, not a single guy who played on those first handful of Hatchet albums still lives - and they had large line ups with frequent changes.  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on April 09, 2021, 07:04:48 AM
Some nice bright picked bass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYaWaGjEK8s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 09, 2021, 02:13:32 PM
I see naked male buttocks ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on April 09, 2021, 10:53:06 PM

That band really had tough luck, not a single guy who played on those first handful of Hatchet albums still lives - and they had large line ups with frequent changes.  :-\

I prefer DJB, but that's just me.

If you're in the Molly Hatchet mood, you might enjoy these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qTdJNYTlw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2021, 04:39:09 AM
I know them, they covered Highway Star und always had a thing with, uhum, hidden messages in their sleeve "art".

https://youtu.be/EEISlPjMK9I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2021, 08:40:28 AM
Richard has decided to give his mom's career a revamp and the results are more than listenable, this is not your Suzi from the oldies circuit, she's become so edgy, she'll scare parts of her audience:

https://youtu.be/jaTMX2fb2mM

https://youtu.be/7klLUVWXAo0

You would expect an old Detroit girrrl to add some soul too, right?

https://youtu.be/Keq3rA5TrO4

https://youtu.be/f9H2RU73CLY

She says so herself, but I tend to agree, Suzi - in the 70ies and beyond essentially a singles act - has delivered her most consistent album ever.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 10, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
https://youtu.be/9ILyWFhuf3Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 10, 2021, 11:44:54 PM
Such a shame there was no follow up for this reunion.
A few months after this live recording Philip Lynott was dead...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4basjzPhHk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 11, 2021, 02:33:19 PM
It would have never worked, Rob, Moore was - unlike Lynott - at least back then still a musical dictator and perfectionist, Lynott couldn't have worked in that environment. Moore was notorious for driving people first mad and eventually away, no two Gary Moore studio albums ever featured the same line up.

And the song would have certainly benefitted had Lynott been allowed to sing all of it. Moore's strained and high-pitched vocals at the end of his range :rolleyes:, if you're not John Wetton or Glenn Hughes, don't try to be.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 11, 2021, 03:20:22 PM
The second song (Military Man) of this live performance is sung by Lynott for the largest part.
They also performed a new version of Still In Love With You on the same event.
Lynott obviously was the better songwriter of the two. And I prefer Lynott’s singing too.
The new found collaboration worked very well for both artists. Lynott had been struggling to get a proper record deal with Grand Slam. But it was always regarded as a second rate Thin Lizzy. Gary Moore just couldn’t make up his mind about what kind of musician he really wanted to be. He had never scored a real hit on his own. He desperately tried to score a hit with Empty Rooms, re-recording it three times and failing each time.
So teaming up with Lynott resulted in his first real hit Out In The Fields.
Moore really wanted to cooperate more with Lynott. But Lynott’s health issues soon appeared much too serious...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on April 11, 2021, 03:33:18 PM


 Some friends, well, I know the singer - he's Jeff Rouse, he also happens to work at https://www.thebassshopseattle.com/  a genuinely nice guy.

https://youtu.be/iZKkbawRoxA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2021, 05:01:10 AM
The second song (Military Man) of this live performance is sung by Lynott for the largest part.
They also performed a new version of Still In Love With You on the same event.
Lynott obviously was the better songwriter of the two. And I prefer Lynott’s singing too.
The new found collaboration worked very well for both artists. Lynott had been struggling to get a proper record deal with Grand Slam. But it was always regarded as a second rate Thin Lizzy. Gary Moore just couldn’t make up his mind about what kind of musician he really wanted to be. He had never scored a real hit on his own. He desperately tried to score a hit with Empty Rooms, re-recording it three times and failing each time.
So teaming up with Lynott resulted in his first real hit Out In The Fields.
Moore really wanted to cooperate more with Lynott. But Lynott’s health issues soon appeared much too serious...

I had the three track 10 inch EP too! Military Man was actually my favorite.

Phil had his demons, but Gary Moore as a young man was a prick to work with. The legion of ace musicians he drove out of his bands ... Mark Nauseef, Charlie Huhn, John Sloman, Neil Murray, Don Airey, Glenn Hughes, Paul Thompson, Craig Gruber, Gary Ferguson, Cozy Powell, Chris Slade, Cass Lewis (a bassist you should really like), at one point even Neil Carter who was his vital writing foil. Except Neil, Bob Daisley seems to have been the only guy, Gary got along with for longer periods (he would also play with Don Airey again at later stages of his career). Only Ian Paice quit at his own instigation because he essentially didn't want to tour as an opening act in the States anymore and also because the DP reunion loomed (no opening act status then!).

Ah Empty Rooms, the presumed hit that never really was. Neil Carter recorded a nice version of it on that Bob Daisley-organized tribute a few years back. His voice was always very similar to Gary's (which helped Gary live no end).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAtFF8FqW64

IMHO, that is the best version together with the original. Brit session crack Mo Foster's trademark phrasing on the bass solo in that (at 3:14) was never replicated, even by a bass player as good as Bob Daisley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MTzNySHIg4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 12, 2021, 07:58:54 AM
Yeah I have that EP too.
And agreed about Gary Moore being hard to work with.
The live video of Thin Lizzy in Australia is almost impossible to watch because of his obnoxious need for attention. He keeps jumping in front of everyone to draw the attention to him and his glitter jacket.
Neil Carter sang large parts at live concerts. As you said Gary tried to sing parts his voice really couldn't reach. In the studio they managed to fix it. But live was often hard on the ears...

Ah yes, Mo Foster. Great fretless bass player.
Also on MSG. (and many other productions in that era)

I'll look into Cass Lewis. Don't think I remember that name. Thanx for the tip.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on April 12, 2021, 10:05:23 AM
Except Neil, Bob Daisley seems to have been the only guy, Gary got along with for longer periods (he would also play with Don Airey again at later stages of his career).

From interviews I've seen I'd say Bob and Don have the smallest egos in rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2021, 11:44:56 AM

I'll look into Cass Lewis. Don't think I remember that name. Thanx for the tip.

You've heard of him, he's the Skunk Anansie bass player, I really like that band, it's not all 70ies dinosaur rock with me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxlYbs4vaWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plTUtnK8fEo

Before that he was with Terence Trend D'Arby, who was also a great talent - what a voice and moves to match! -, but probably even more difficult than Gary Moore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmKCj03fHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pB9mTimz3k

And finally here with Gary Moore, didn't last long, but then the Skunks were on the verge of reuniting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzI2JBSgtzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgRsP_dmgHA

Gary's vocals - even after decades of honing and training - remained an acquired taste. I don't mind gruff vocals, I love Ian Hunter and Rory Gallagher, but Moore is stretching it ... And his guitar playing ... all these Moore lovers, I can't understand how they can ignore his constant overplaying, there's no light and shade with him, just 150% intensity and energy note for note for note for note. Not to forget that extreme vibraaaaaatotototo with every note too. Very tiring to my ears. Not every note has equal importance and warrants equal intensity.  :rolleyes: Compared to him people like EvH, Blackmore, Nugent, Tipton, even Sykes (his disciple) and Yngwie are masters of laid back tastefulness.

And don't ever hand him a 12-string acoustic guitar, he obviously doesn't know what it is for ...  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emUDJ51K2HI


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2021, 12:16:03 PM

 Some friends, well, I know the singer - he's Jeff Rouse, he also happens to work at https://www.thebassshopseattle.com/  a genuinely nice guy.

https://youtu.be/iZKkbawRoxA

May I deduce from that the enduring popularity of Grunge and REM in Seattle, Mark?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 12, 2021, 01:18:44 PM
Yeah I found Cass Lewis when I googled him.
And I also found that video of Gary Moore with that godawful song Rectified.  His singing, his guitar tone, everything lacks taste on that one. That guitar tone could have fitted Metallica perhaps. Way too much gain for my taste.
The comments in the video don't agree with us though, Uwe...
I think his voice was only just good enough for the safe side of Blues.

Gary Moore was a merciless guitar player however. He really hit every note he played. He didn't fake.
When I was 15 years, I thought he was great.
But I can't stand most of his music anymore these days.

Having said that; I enjoyed re-watching that Military Man performance with Philip Lynott. And smiled a bit about Out In The Fields ;-)
I think Lynott brought out the best in him. Maybe Gary Moore respected him too much to wallow in his own endless ego trips.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on April 12, 2021, 01:34:14 PM
May I deduce from that the enduring popularity of Grunge and REM in Seattle, Mark?
\


 Indeed you may! Especially the Grunge - goes with the weather generally  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 15, 2021, 05:07:27 PM
https://youtu.be/EXsEoB5k_-w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 16, 2021, 07:35:43 AM
Local fusion monsters Kick the Cat have just released their first album in years. Great players, great dudes. Drummer Kris Meyers is also in Umphrey's McGee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTnc0rfYN7Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2021, 07:38:02 AM
Dr Feelgood with an organ? Heresy!

Eight bars of piano! (at 01:55)

https://youtu.be/dhg8CJLDlpg


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 17, 2021, 12:20:13 AM
https://youtu.be/JLhiAA8B4Nw


The original

https://youtu.be/F3-2nOlO528
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 17, 2021, 03:38:57 PM
The C&W version, should it meet Dave's exacting standards on the subject.

https://youtu.be/tI2cA7Wd1Q4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on April 17, 2021, 06:36:52 PM
I was re-listening to this lately because Jon King was just interviewed on a podcast I like (Bullseye). The interview confirmed something I had suspected since I first heard Dr Feelgood via this forum... Gang of Four were Dr Feelgood fans! I definitely hear an influence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8h35sn_ARs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 17, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
https://youtu.be/VFETrcH1Dks
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 17, 2021, 08:15:31 PM
The C&W version, should it meet Dave's exacting standards on the subject.

https://youtu.be/tI2cA7Wd1Q4

Western swing in the spirit of Pee Wee King's version. Well done. But not quite the same song. The song sung by Smiley Lewis and Dave Edmunds was written by Dave Bartholomew in the mid 50s. It owes a lot to the song sung by Pee Wee King in the 40s.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 18, 2021, 05:10:26 PM
This popped up in my YT recommended videos today, no idea why. Recent, uploaded 3/29. Audio quality could be better.

She's looking pretty good for her years.

https://youtu.be/sJuVQQmU9BU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 18, 2021, 07:27:31 PM
She's obviously not living in poverty either, all 5 ft 2 in of her!  :mrgreen: That is why Prince probably offered her the song, being taller than a woman (even if only by a bit more than an inch) was a celebratory occurrence for him.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 18, 2021, 10:15:52 PM
Here she is back in 1991.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol4MaEPayv0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2021, 05:30:16 AM
You would imagine that a band with a name like The Bangles would feel entirely comfortable with the subject matter of the ole' Bad Co chestnut.  8)

Their version is nice - and this being '91, gone were the pretty colorful dresses of yore and Kurt Cobain's wardrobe held court. As a lot of bands did around then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 19, 2021, 07:31:20 AM
That reminds me.  I received a Bad Company CD by mistake on an order mix-up years ago.

I just ran across this.  A Bangles video with Leonard Nimoy.  Wikipedia said the Hoffs and Nimoy families were friends. 

Live long and prosper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj7OJeyhq2Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2021, 09:32:29 AM
I couldn't hear the music for all the shoulder pads however much I spiked my ears! They must have weighed the poor girls down quite a bit. (The shoulder pads of vulcanized material, not the pointy ears.)

I was hoping for Leonard to join in. Unlike some of his military superiors, the man could actually sing. Fascinating.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2021, 07:56:36 PM
He's not well - some incurable degenerative muscle disease called myositis. The vid is pretty darn moving.

https://youtu.be/RjyO4vnINTI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 19, 2021, 11:11:32 PM
I liked Frampton's version of that. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on April 19, 2021, 11:21:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4T_z6ajrM8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 19, 2021, 11:51:29 PM
I couldn't hear the music for all the shoulder pads however much I spiked my ears! They must have weighed the poor girls down quite a bit. (The shoulder pads of vulcanized material, not the pointy ears.)

I was hoping for Leonard to join in. Unlike some of his military superiors, the man could actually sing. Fascinating.

Of course Len could sing! Who could forget this hard rockin' number?

https://youtu.be/BC35cQKHwzg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 20, 2021, 06:39:13 AM
I wasn't doubting that! I have a full CD with stuff of his better than what you just posted.

https://youtu.be/_J-YS8asC6I

I was speaking of the other guy, who always rocked in his armchair when the Klingon death rays hit the USS Enterprise.

Leonard didn't hit every note, bit Lee Marvin'ish in places, but he was overall fine.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2021, 10:06:26 PM
https://youtu.be/oEZVwQptvWw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2021, 10:28:09 PM
More Feelgood

https://youtu.be/NV-7iIYSeO0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2021, 01:03:46 PM
Brought to you from the man who refused to die.

https://youtu.be/LeoKCJNI-k4

Did you ever see their documentary, Herr Westheimer?

https://youtu.be/oyPfbSnrKMo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2021, 06:41:27 PM
https://youtu.be/oEZVwQptvWw

Herr Shatner always had an exquisite taste in guitarists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYMsP1-NgSg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODHy4zOK_eg

All threads lead to the inevitable.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 22, 2021, 12:41:20 AM
Brought to you from the man who refused to die.

https://youtu.be/LeoKCJNI-k4

Did you ever see their documentary, Herr Westheimer?

https://youtu.be/oyPfbSnrKMo

No, just saw the trailer.

I've listened to the Daltrey/Wilko tracks on YouTube. All good stuff, captures some of the Feelgood feeling.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 22, 2021, 04:12:21 AM
It's worth watching, Canvey Island in the 70ies was a microcosm of very much its own. Caught in a time capsule as if the early 50ies had never ended. I don't think that any other place in the UK could have spawned a band like the Feelgoods.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 22, 2021, 10:35:11 PM
It's worth watching, Canvey Island in the 70ies was a microcosm of very much its own. Caught in a time capsule as if the early 50ies had never ended. I don't think that any other place in the UK could have spawned a band like the Feelgoods.

Just added it to my eBay watchlist, but it will have to wait a bit,
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 26, 2021, 04:25:57 PM
Never heard this version before, it's remarkable for Halford kicking in his usual tone of voice only at the end after a very gentle delivery before. Makes you wonder whether an Unplugged Priest album wouldn't be a good idea. Ian Hill actually plays a melodic bass line at 2:05, he can still do it!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NimSewW0kx0

Unrelated, but I didn't think Cherone did such a bad job at all. The guy was lively and youthful - plus hit more notes than some of his predecessors. And the band sure seemed to enjoy themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwjew6q2hYM

Sure, Sammy had zest and rogue charm - also no few bum notes. (To be fair, this was towards the end of the gig and his voice sounds a little shot.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQUggbJ8RXI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 27, 2021, 08:06:10 AM
Michael Anthony is the best singer they ever had.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 27, 2021, 08:10:12 AM
True. They lost their trademark vocal sound without him.

He's a candidate for an "Unknown Musician Memorial", terribly underrated as both a singer and a bassist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on April 27, 2021, 08:53:30 AM
True. They lost their trademark vocal sound without him.

He's a candidate for an "Unknown Musician Memorial", terribly underrated as both a singer and a bassist.
   

 Him and Jeff Pilson......
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 27, 2021, 02:30:27 PM
As anyone who has heard Don Dokken live will fervently attest to! Jeff can actually sing.

https://youtu.be/aTzonLFR7Q4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on April 27, 2021, 04:06:11 PM


 Watched a new documentary on Netflix about this band - Very cool, I never heard of them at all.

 https://youtu.be/3wOY9Looa2Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 27, 2021, 05:48:43 PM
They had one giant hit in Europe, this here, a dance floor cracker in rock discos, it's a good track, sort of INXS in Spanish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzimletXB7M

It's not often that we have Spanish rock hits in Northern Europe, it's usually pop like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZZw8NyPq8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTsVJ1PsnMs

Lest we forget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWaymcVmJ-A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 27, 2021, 05:53:02 PM
I never saw this at the time. I guess if there is such a thing as a Sgt. Pepper of Black Sabbath, then it is that whole Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album, they really stretched out on that. I love the Joe Pass style (one of Iommi's idols) bridge/interlude following that mammoth riff, it's also Ozzy's best/most ambitious vocal line ever plus Tony sans mustache ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfTpjrzas5E

The vid unfortunately ends with a criminal fade out of that great coda riff towards the end (long before they break into a shuffle), here it is in full g(l)ory ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRQY8hGg6QM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 28, 2021, 07:32:58 AM

 Watched a new documentary on Netflix about this band - Very cool, I never heard of them at all.

 https://youtu.be/3wOY9Looa2Q

A co-worker from El Salvador turned me on to these guys around 20 years ago. I like em!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 28, 2021, 09:58:49 AM
They had one giant hit in Europe, this here, a dance floor cracker in rock discos, it's a good track, sort of INXS in Spanish:

In Germany maybe. But in The Netherlands I don't think that even charted.


Oh, and you're forgetting this one from Spain  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGG5fX7bxY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 28, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
I always liked that! I do have that Enya side in me, cleverly hidden, but it's there. Je suis a sucker für das hier ...

https://youtu.be/EZ98IJ0usoE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on April 29, 2021, 08:33:59 AM
A co-worker from El Salvador turned me on to these guys around 20 years ago. I like em!
 


 Tom, check out the Netflix documentary, it's really cool - I really like their sound!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 30, 2021, 10:03:14 PM
https://youtu.be/a4IjrjMbmC4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 01, 2021, 09:12:38 AM
We've been listening to some Zappa and Deep Purple.
https://i.imgur.com/thly0Cs.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/Afb1YE8.mp4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 01, 2021, 01:29:27 PM
https://youtu.be/a4IjrjMbmC4

That was their only hit in Germany.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 03, 2021, 07:26:28 AM
https://youtu.be/dmjHqGmlWX4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 03, 2021, 07:29:54 AM
In case someone thinks I have multiple personality disorder, I don't, those links I posted are vids of my toddler checking out some of daddy's music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 03, 2021, 12:59:38 PM
I always found your apparent multiple personality disorder here hardly worth a mention. It kind of melts in.  :popcorn:

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/1f4dc5ec241bf8c5822b5d19b0989d21/9ce859836fcfd2b9-4a/s2048x3072_c5600,0,94200,100000/026ebb5f2a1ac3a0450b81755dbc47a111df131c.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo1ndgHz0Iw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 03, 2021, 01:30:22 PM
Cut me some slack Uwe. I think we've all lost a few marbles dealing with the current climate of events.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 03, 2021, 01:40:02 PM
I've gained! Around the waist ...  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 03, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
I've gained! Around the waist ...  :-\
 

 I took up some exercise, not too seriously but get some cardio, weights and floor exercise  about 3x weekly for 30 mins. I still sleep really badly though.........
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 03, 2021, 02:25:11 PM
Sleep is never an issue, I go to bed, bang! - I'm gone and sleep through, they might be carrying me away, I wouldn't notice. My sleep is comatose, always has been. In fact I easily go to sleep during the day too, if nothing is happening, I doze off - my standby mode.  :mrgreen:

Corona and extended home office have however enhanced my bad (nasty?) habits. I've always been a night owl & night worker, but things have gotten out of hand, I now rarely go to bed before 6 am in the morning and then sleep like a baby til noon.

On a positive side, I've had my first vaccination last Wednesday, no side effects whatsoever ...

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/b2386f9fe5cc4857b2d2b05268d2b8c4/tumblr_norgl70lYy1rp0vkjo1_500.gif)

... well, no serious ones at least!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 03, 2021, 10:07:00 PM
Sleep is never an issue, I go to bed, bang! - I'm gone and sleep through, they might be carrying me away, I wouldn't notice. My sleep is comatose, always has been. In fact I easily go to sleep during the day too, if nothing is happening, I doze off - my standby mode.  :mrgreen:

Corona and extended home office have however enhanced my bad (nasty?) habits. I've always been a night owl & night worker, but things have gotten out of hand, I now rarely go to bed before 6 am in the morning and then sleep like a baby til noon.

On a positive side, I've had my first vaccination last Wednesday, no side effects whatsoever ...

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/b2386f9fe5cc4857b2d2b05268d2b8c4/tumblr_norgl70lYy1rp0vkjo1_500.gif)

... well, no serious ones at least!  ;D



 Ahh yes, got my shots 3 months back now, the third arm has sprouted nicely from the middle of my back( even 3 hands won't help my bass playing!) and the microchip feels real good in my left shoulder  :o



 BTW, 3 years ago yesterday.......

Thanks, perhaps a once in a lifetime experience I'll never forget.


(https://i.imgur.com/cJFXvqn.jpg)


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 04, 2021, 10:01:09 AM
I'm happy I wore a matching shirt that day!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 04, 2021, 01:57:52 PM
 Somehow, I missed this movie when it came out,
 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979320/mediaviewer/rm2834697472/

I really enjoyed it and was quite surprised to hear "Mama we're all crazee now" from Slade and Thun Lizzy's "The Rocker" as part of the sound track. Loved all the vintage F-1 cars, brought back memories of my AFX race set ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 04, 2021, 03:49:25 PM
Race car driving does nothing for me, but even I liked the film. Daniel Brühl who played Niki Lauda got clobbered for not getting the latter's Austrian accent right - sort of like Brit critics always deriding US actors faking a Brit accent and vice versa.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 04, 2021, 04:25:32 PM
Race car driving does nothing for me, but even I liked the film. Daniel Brühl who played Niki Lauda got clobbered for not getting the latter's Austrian accent right - sort of like Brit critics always deriding US actors faking a Brit accent and vice versa.
 

 It could have been that bad!  ;D
The old F-1 cars were a trip, I wasn't ready for that. AAA+++ for the  Slade!   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 04, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cJFXvqn.jpg)

Whenever I see someone mention Bullet Bass, they're talking about a Squier, but I immediately think of this one.

From a barroom brawl to a San Antonio music store, then on to Uwe's luthier for gunshot repair and a subtle understated refin.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 05, 2021, 03:28:44 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Garish or not, that bass with this fin has captured a real early 70ies vibe. Whenever I take it to a rehearsal,  people think it is some Dennis Dunaway  artefact  or something. And that is even before I have told the little lore that led to its loveable look today. You see, in Germany - with its unreasonable, freedom-constricting gun laws - old mahogany is only rarely used for target practice in an imbibed state!  8)

It sounds real good too.The TB+ give real bark and you can dial in additional sonic ooomp via the mudbucker.

And of course the color design proves that even Mark's more throwaway remarks/recommendations serve as nourishing beauty manna to all those of us with less visionary esthetics. A West Coast Marc Jacobs in our ranks, no less.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 05, 2021, 07:41:12 AM
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Garish or not, that bass with this fin has captured a real early 70ies vibe. Whenever I take it to a rehearsal,  people think it is some Dennis Dunaway  artefact  or something. And that is even before I have told the little lore that led to its loveable look today. You see, in Germany - with its unreasonable, freedom-constricting gun laws - old mahogany is only rarely used for target practice in an imbibed state!  8)

It sounds real good too.The TB+ give real bark and you can dial in additional sonic ooomp via the mudbucker.

And of course the color design proves that even Mark's more throwaway remarks/recommendations serve as nourishing beauty manna to all those of us with less visionary esthetics. A West Coast Marc Jacobs in our ranks, no less.

 You know I was quite surprised that you went with my suggestion! How long ago was this now? At least 12 years, maybe more - The Dudepit sure was a wooly place, the first time I posted a pic of me in drag - Got a lot of email on that  :gay:

A tasteful refin may not be everyone's deal but sometimes it just makes sense, original or not a crappy finish at some point turns me off. My buddy that restores '60 Pontiacs to factory condition has no problem with repainting them and it certainly doesn't decrease the value of the car, whyso with basses?


Purple.......just 'cause.
(https://i.imgur.com/kKdZ2c6.jpg)








Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 05, 2021, 08:24:25 AM
My luthier rolled his eyes at the time. But once he was done, he said: "You know, it looks real good!"

I can understand a "slavishly true to the original" restoration sometimes, but not every bass needs to.

I remember your "coming out" well at the time, Mark. I found it a relief. That model train thing had been a deeply unsettling experience for me. Now I knew you were normal after all.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 05, 2021, 08:38:22 AM
My luthier rolled his eyes at the time. But once he was done, he said: "You know, it looks real good!"

I can understand a "slavishly true to the original" restoration sometimes, but not every bass needs to.

I remember your "coming out" well at the time, Mark. I found it a relief. That model train thing had been a deeply unsettling experience for me. Now I knew you were normal after all.
 

 Anymore, it's easier to speak about being a Queen than the model train thing, however I did change my avatar on the model train forum I frequent to the same one I use here just to see if I'd get a comment from anybody........Crickets for months, finally one person sent me a note, turns out she's Trans so that was cool.

 We need more Slade...........
 https://youtu.be/GaAUfTGo6wc

   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 05, 2021, 08:52:12 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/P1020550.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill)

And more Purplebirds!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 05, 2021, 08:57:58 AM


 I'd quite forgotten that one! I don't know the story behind it's refin.......I'll raise you a '76 BTW.

(https://i.imgur.com/FiCwPbX.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 05, 2021, 12:25:44 PM
All those model train fumes ...

You don't remember that short-lived "Gibson Goddess Series" around 2006? Lighter guitars in fresher colors for girls like you?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b8/f5/25/b8f52561f9f571cf731a9bd8d2549301.jpg)

I saw this LP in purple burst and knew that my 60ies IV would not stay (very) worn tobacco burst much longer. The rest - as they say - is history.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 05, 2021, 01:00:00 PM
All those model train fumes ...

You don't remember that short-lived "Gibson Goddess Series" around 2006? Lighter guitars in fresher colors for girls like you?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b8/f5/25/b8f52561f9f571cf731a9bd8d2549301.jpg)

I saw this LP in purple burst and knew that my 60ies IV would not stay (very) worn tobacco burst much longer. The rest - as they say - is history.


 Model train fumes + liquor  ;D 
Thunderbird finishes can be so stodgy, so pretty much anything is an improvement, I dig the purple burst!
 I get it on the refin, both my '76s finish were so shot that it wasn't even a question in my mind to go ahead. At the time a beat '76 was worth about 1K and I spent almost that much getting it painted and put back together, Mike Lull's office manager thought I was nuts (probably true), but I'm sure it hasn't gone down in value and I like having something no one else does.



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on May 06, 2021, 02:20:14 PM
Dammit, now I want a purple bass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 06, 2021, 05:05:09 PM
Dutch prog roolz!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAGAf85613A

Our neighbors to the West, though hardened by their constant struggle with the elements, are a friendly and good-natured people with joyous, ebullient art.

We wouldn't want to miss the original vid, would we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVx3exTqKG4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 06, 2021, 05:43:20 PM
Never better than this...

Note that Fisher (lead guitar) had all the 80's "rock god" moves down a decade early.  But Nancy Wilson still out-rocked him! 

I learned today that the acoustic intro to this is called Silver Wheels, and stands by itself as a famous piece of music. I also learned that the music was inspired by the Moody Blues' "Question" which was a similar guitar-driven rock hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGEKW-e_Ge8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 06, 2021, 05:59:20 PM
Oh, how I know that intro! My son drove me mad learning it for hours and days until he had it down pat.  :rolleyes:

I never made the connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wDHvmCVRxU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 06, 2021, 08:06:56 PM
Yesterday, Lovesick Duo posted a video of them busking in New Orleans in 2016 with a singer named Sabine McCalla. Liked what I heard, checked and found several videos. She also has a bandcamp site with a digital album available.

https://youtu.be/1lYigC2Jn20

https://youtu.be/5Y8AKOL1ajc


Here's the 2016 busking video.

https://youtu.be/lC-VW7Jotuo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 07, 2021, 09:52:10 AM
Oh, how I know that intro! My son drove me mad learning it for hours and days until he had it down pat.  :rolleyes:

I never made the connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wDHvmCVRxU

Listening to it again, the intro makes the connection VERY clear, doesn't it??

I'm a huge Moody Blues fan.  That tune tugs at my heart.  Justin Hayward is a seriously underrated guitarist, and that band has had an epic career.  I just hope they tour a few more times and I get the chance to see them again. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2021, 11:32:21 AM
I'm afraid the "cheese-factor" of the Moody Blues is sometimes a little too high for me!  :mrgreen: Not that I wholly disdain cheese - looking as I'm doing right now at a 5-CD compilation of Bay City Rollers albums (Edith: "Please listen to those while I'm not around, ok?") while listening to a Mark Farner CD where he has squeezed his Reborn Christian agenda into really every song, not even leaving Some Kind of Wonderful unscathed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTtzQtq42Ls

Whatever rocks your Ark ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 07, 2021, 12:02:53 PM
Never better than this...

Note that Fisher (lead guitar) had all the 80's "rock god" moves down a decade early.  But Nancy Wilson still out-rocked him! 

I learned today that the acoustic intro to this is called Silver Wheels, and stands by itself as a famous piece of music. I also learned that the music was inspired by the Moody Blues' "Question" which was a similar guitar-driven rock hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGEKW-e_Ge8



 The locals, I saw them quite a few times with the original lineup and later on as well. The husband of one of my ex wife's girlfriend worked for Heart as a drum roadie, back when I had the '69 Caddie we picked him and Denny Carmassi up from Boeing field when they came home off tour.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2021, 02:39:39 PM
Why did you break up with Nancy?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
It's been ages since these guys have done anything ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRYiKJz3pc&list=OLAK5uy_mLDw_7SAFhDF2AaHJNOBifgrLJaC9DQhI&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NOIaCIJSI&list=OLAK5uy_mLDw_7SAFhDF2AaHJNOBifgrLJaC9DQhI&index=9

If known in the US, then - other than their early Roger Dean sleeves -

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/i5RJoBCraKyyo_Xlt1XALvzUplMAWNlyoHvpGBNRvJoT2UI3zD2ItPGHmbXcP4mQiwjqrtao0-b-qnFpj7xo81ZznNUpuKmUlBZughJMDD6rtJmRS6pxBQXHJk3_fqctLriaodKzn21c7OPdQ4HvcZ9bITiW)

probably for this here, which was a while ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xtTI3Ssps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cih1fPohnd4

London-based, they were/are an interesting mix of West-African and Caribbean musicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rje_J0EKUY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on May 09, 2021, 03:25:54 PM
This week I seem to be diving into shoegaze a bit. Started with this
https://youtu.be/OBxJGg6cjqk?list=PLYwfYGziz-_15VN407Ap_NerzwokcUGdX

And then took a tour through some Jesus & Mary Chain and confirmed yeah I still don't really like that band for some reason ...
but ended up here, never really listened to Ride before but I am liking them quite a bit. 
https://youtu.be/jO5T4-cphpw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2021, 04:40:02 PM
A (psychedelic) Brit Popper amongst our ranks!

Ride would sometimes invite a meanwhile late Hammond player to their sessions ...

https://youtu.be/OpFROtvPi3g

https://youtu.be/f-oop9Xs9EQ

He should of course be recognizable to you, especially on the second track.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 09, 2021, 11:50:46 PM
The Vintage Caravan.
A cool little band from Iceland.
They have a new album out and released several great videos to promote it.

They remind me a bit of Tim Christensen / Dizzy Mizz Lizzy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQ7dUihFEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9SYCQXBMUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK6KSaG0mag
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 10, 2021, 04:48:37 AM
Yup, they're cool, have three of their CDs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 12, 2021, 11:45:58 PM
https://youtu.be/NKu0OTDvQ-w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 13, 2021, 06:53:52 AM
Impeccable. Or for Budgie fans: impeckable.

You know what Robbie Robertson and Ritchie Blackmore have in common? Not much  :mrgreen:, but certainly an ignorance for the fact that the respective bands they left for their solo careers were already the best imaginable platforms for their art.

It amazes me to this day that Robertson hardly sang a song with The Band, given that he was their chief songwriter. His voice isn't great, but certainly good enough for a few tracks. But then he faced stiff vocal competition in The Band from Manuel, Helm and Danko plus must have harbored self-realisation that his songs would be even better sung by them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 13, 2021, 08:20:54 AM


 Me, still not growing up! 

I love this! Don't care if it's four chords - it makes me sproingky

https://youtu.be/qNzEVgoHY8g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 13, 2021, 01:26:32 PM
A highly original outfit.  :mrgreen:  Music courtesy of The Cult, image taken from these guys here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff974Ocxl4Q

Nothing wrong with four chords though (especially if the magnificent Sales Bros are your rhythm section) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6zjxL37Xo

... but Iggy invented himself.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 13, 2021, 01:51:07 PM
Those guys were so awesome ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0hS1lxq4I

It went straight over the public's head, but I saw them live and was mesmerized. It was the cutting-edgiest hard rock I ever saw.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on May 14, 2021, 07:13:12 AM
I loved Tin Machine. Wish I had seen them live.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 14, 2021, 10:52:51 AM
Loved them too.
My sister was/is a huge Bowie fan. She didn’t really appreciate the Hard Rock that her younger brother listened to.
And I didn’t really care for Bowie in those days.
But suddenly there was this great album that we both loved. I was shocked that she digged this heavy music. Just because Bowie sang on it.

It dawned on me that it was mainly the high pitched vocals that (lots of) people hate about Hard Rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2021, 12:55:17 PM
When I saw them, a medium-size hall (capacity of 4.000) that Bowie would have never played, was only half full, probably less. And at least 50% of the people there were waiting for a David Bowie hit, just one hit pleeeze!, most of them female. But he didn't do it.

In hindsight that was probably a mistake, i.e. perceived as arrogance. If they had sprinkled in, say, Ziggy Stardust, Suffragette City, Jean Genie, Rebel Rebel and Heroes, it would have still been a Tin Machine gig and the Bowie faction would have been content.

It didn't matter to me, I loved what I saw/heard. Ironically, it was the only "Bowie"-concert I've ever been to. With Tin Machine, he really downplayed his front man role, Reeves Grabrels was astounding as a guitarist, Adrian Belew, Earl Slick and Mick Ronson rolled into one, and the the two Sales brothers were very dominant (there was also an additional rhythm guitarist though Bowie played acoustic and electric rhythm guitar as well - plus some sax), it appeared as if it was THEIR band.

Hunt and Tony Sales are forever etched in my memory as the most unconventional, daring, yet shit-tight rhythm section I ever saw. They did unison breaks you'd swear they'd never get out of alive, yet they always did. They would sometimes even leave the meter to the point of breaking everything down and then - WWWHHHAAAMMM! -, always be back on the one, it was f***ing amazing. Really pushing the envelope of what rhythm sections in hard rock outfits do.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2021, 01:12:45 PM
"It dawned on me that it was mainly the high pitched vocals that (lots of) people hate about Hard Rock."

That is one of Edith's (the ole folkie!) major criticisms of harder music. High pitched wailers like Rob Halford, Brian Johnson, Glenn Hughes, Robert Plant (when he sings high), Graham Bonnet, Ozzy, Lou Gramm leave her cold. "Why are they always screaming and pressing so hard?" My pet theory is that the sheer force of high-pitched singing appeals to men's sense for athletic achievements while women are somewhat bewildered at why any man would want to sing so high (in my personal experience, most women deem their own talking voice too high and would like it deeper). She likes male singers like Paul Rodgers or Van Morrison. And of note especially to you, Rob, while Edith knows very little of Thin Lizzy except Whiskey in the Jar and The Boys Are Back In Town, whenever she hears Lynott she asks: "Who's that, his voice is nice? He doesn't scream."  ;D Mind you, she also has a disdain for nasal sounding Brit accent singers like Al Stewart, David Gahan (DM) or the guy from The Pet Shop Boys (all of which I like).

But Bob Dylan is alright.  :mrgreen:

The other two hard rock/heavy metal elements that Edith doesn't like is a pummeling double-bass drum so prevalent in heavy music today and an overtly chugging rhythm guitar, think of Kiss' Lick it Up or Priest's You've Got Another Thing Coming. That to her is just "moronic". Or anything by Status Quo! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: And playing Priest's Painkiller always elicits  the same reaction with her: "Heavens, WHAT IS THIS? Mind turning it down, I have a headache already!"  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 14, 2021, 01:24:19 PM

...whenever she hears Lynott she asks: "Who's that, his voice is nice. He doesn't scream.

The other two hard rock/heavy metal elements that Edith doesn't like is a pummeling double-bass drum so prevalent in heavy music today and an overtly chugging rhythm guitar, think of Kiss' Lick it Up or Priest's You've Got Another Thing Coming. That to her is just "moronic".

Edith is obviously a woman of great taste.
I fully agree on all of the above.  :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2021, 01:28:13 PM
She's a friggin' David Gilmour/Pink Floyd floozy!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 14, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
nobody is perfect  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 14, 2021, 02:57:19 PM
Speaking of ... this found favor even with her - and not only because Ian Paice is featured, her favorite Deep Purple guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1NK9_SngbI

Nothing can ever beat the original icon of a record, but as all-star-tributes of famous records go, this is certainly in the upper echelons. Bootsy's interpretation of Roger Waters'/David Gilmour's bass parts (let's face it, with Floyd you never know who played the bass if Waters couldn't be bothered) towards the end is a hoot!

For those of you curious who played/sang on it (in alphabetical order):

Rod Argent

Carmine Appice

Bootsy Collins

Mel Collins (not a sibling!)

Geoff Downes

David Ellefson

Rik Emmett

Edgar Froese

Steve Hackett

Steve Hillage (having Steve as a first name helped to get on the guitarist roster!)

James LaBrie

Tony Levin

Patrick Moraz

Ian Paice

Todd Rundgren

Joe Satriani

Rat Scabies

Billy Sheehan

Steve Stevens (I told you so!)

Geoff Tate

Rick Wakeman

Jah Wobble


Rat Scabies and Jah Wobble on a Floyd tribute?!  :o

Yes my brethren, the culture wars have finally ended. Jake, you can take off your helmet and surrender your arms now.

(https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1024/MTc1MDg2MzEwNTI3MzQ1NzU5/enemy-mine-1985-why-dont-more-people-love-this-film.webp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DEPNBbjRsY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on May 15, 2021, 11:27:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkUHKYINc0A

I've been going through a Jellyfish/Imperial Drag/Lickerish Quartet thing lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SpOjFgN198

Between all three iterations of this band they might be closest to what I always wished my bands could have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAJn-xoARFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZM8CQxnOPQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 19, 2021, 11:21:42 PM
Almost forgotten Mike Nesmith gem from 1973.

https://youtu.be/c5xd3OqQ1rQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on May 21, 2021, 12:48:15 AM
Started this day with a bit of vintage Öyster (no Paltrow jokes, please..)

I have given this album and fire of unknown origin a spin lately, I never gave this band a listen before someone here made a reference to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_j_Aby6RM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 21, 2021, 07:23:12 AM
Started this day with a bit of vintage Öyster (no Paltrow jokes, please..)

I have given this album and fire of unknown origin a spin lately, I never gave this band a listen before someone here made a reference to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_j_Aby6RM


 Secret Treaties is one of my all time favorite albums start to finish I just love it....... C'mon, any song that has the phrase Junkers Jumo 004! As part of the chorus, or "Harvester of eyes" as a lyric.......
I saw them at least 4 times over the years, including when the recorded part of "On your feet or on your knees" here in Seattle - They were on fire as a band at that point. 


 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 21, 2021, 02:32:08 PM
That was an album that gripped me too. I first saw them around the time of Cultösaurus Erectus and more than half a dozen times since. The Bouchard Bros were of course a missing ingredient at one point. Albert and Joe always had the wackiest songs, Eric Bloom was this MARVEL villain type conferencier, Allen Lanier provided NYC cool as if he had just stepped off a Lou Reed stage and Buck Dharma is one of the great unsung North American guitarists with his fluid and melodic lines - his influence gave BÖC a West Coast touch though they were all New York boys.

Albert Bouchard recently did a charmingly raw, almost unplugged version of his Imaginos album (credited to BÖC for commercial reasons at the time), it's called ReImaginos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzQ7HJgeJ1U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 23, 2021, 08:40:57 PM
Found this gem on YT. Barbara Lynn with Gatemouth Brown, Billy Cox on bass.

She and Billy are still around.

https://youtu.be/U6Y7sEO7Low
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 24, 2021, 08:21:20 AM
That was an album that gripped me too. I first saw them around the time of Cultösaurus Erectus and more than half a dozen times since. The Bouchard Bros were of course a missing ingredient at one point. Albert and Joe always had the wackiest songs, Eric Bloom was this MARVEL villain type conferencier, Allen Lanier provided NYC cool as if he had just stepped off a Lou Reed stage and Buck Dharma is one of the great unsung North American guitarists with his fluid and melodic lines - his influence gave BÖC a West Coast touch though they were all New York boys.

Albert Bouchard recently did a charmingly raw, almost unplugged version of his Imaginos album (credited to BÖC for commercial reasons at the time), it's called ReImaginos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzQ7HJgeJ1U
   


I like that Uwe!

 Secret Treaties was their high point for me, the songs, lyrically, thematically, jigsaw together so well, it's dark - no other band was quite where they were at the time, all these years later I ca still listen to it and love it. Their music, not all of it but a fair bit sits well with me, to this day "Don't fear the Reaper" can raise goosebumps on my arms, it's quality is ethereal. They were a great live show back in the day.       


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 24, 2021, 08:35:02 AM
I liked that they didn't have a classic larger-than-life frontman, but rather the whole band stood out as five distinctly different individuals. That probably hindered them from really hitting the big league, but I found it pleasingly different.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1wODOr4Vr10/hqdefault.jpg)

They are also the band with the song ("Deadline") that has the most bass note bending (from a second to a minor third - incessantly in the verse) ever. I found that unbelievably catchy and have nicked it into my repertoire of "play-to-impress" bass riffs.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxvQ9qCe78

Always dug Bouchard's bass playing even though he has admitted that he grew bored with the instrument and therefore switched to guitar with the advent of his solo career.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 24, 2021, 08:49:26 AM
Found this gem on YT. Barbara Lynn with Gatemouth Brown, Billy Cox on bass.

She and Billy are still around.

https://youtu.be/U6Y7sEO7Low

That was real nice. I like her left hand (she's a lefty) thumb pick strumming.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on May 27, 2021, 07:18:43 AM

Rat Scabies and Jah Wobble on a Floyd tribute?!  :o

Yes my brethren, the culture wars have finally ended. Jake, you can take off your helmet and surrender your arms now.


What?  Goddammit!  No, I refuse like a Frenchman.... but with principle (other than the principle of just always refusing).  I actually had a brief moment in high school where I toyed with the idea of being into Pink Floyd.  There were some elements that spoke to me.... but then I met their other fans.  I mean, I'd expect this from Scabies (he was always a lovable lump - not the most intellectual of punks, it's why he lasted so long in The Damned and had all those side hustles, which is why Uwe loves him... and Steve Jones), but Wobble?  To be seen on the same record with Satriani?  The shame.  Lydon called him up specifically to tease the shit out of him for that alone.  Keith Levine rushed over to stage an intervention.

It must be somewhat serendipitous that I was listening to some Anagram last  night, and thought to myself - I wonder what Uwe would have to say about this one:

https://open.spotify.com/track/2CLLcQ8QoVPus9byoBFrca?si=f7c6cc6dd6b145c4

(sorry there is a youtube vid but the bass isn't audible enough)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 27, 2021, 09:34:31 PM
Mia Zapata’s Killer Has Died. Peers Remember the Gits Singer’s ‘True Independent Soul’  (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/mia-zapata-murderer-dead-1170206/)

https://youtu.be/sVsBsj82z_c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on May 28, 2021, 09:21:35 AM
Do they call them 'grunge' in the article just because they were based in Seatle in the 90s?  Cuz they are textbook 1st wave hardcore and about the correct age for it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 28, 2021, 12:12:24 PM
Do they call them 'grunge' in the article just because they were based in Seatle in the 90s?  Cuz they are textbook 1st wave hardcore and about the correct age for it.

No, they were never considered grunge. They were called a punk band at the time.

https://youtu.be/7cWW2VyHkhw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on May 28, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
The article you linked calls them 'grunge' (or rather the video embedded in the article).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 28, 2021, 01:48:42 PM
What a glorious day! Finally -after 19 years- a new Del Amitri album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6WbJVf06ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCGigqiAEXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQzHNOV4Ok
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 28, 2021, 02:00:42 PM
The article you linked calls them 'grunge' (or rather the video embedded in the article).

Well, it's in Rolling Stone, so it must be true.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 03, 2021, 07:35:26 AM
Now Edith wants a divorce.  :rimshot:

I made the mistake of listening to Return to Forever REAL LOUD!  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/DiN8M2ul_9w

There is nothing like testosterone-charged heavy metal jazz.  8)  Chick Corea, Lenny White, Al Di Meola and Stanley Clarke are marriage-disruptive.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 03, 2021, 01:01:29 PM
What a glorious day! Finally -after 19 years- a new Del Amitri album!


Listening to it just now. You do realize that it's girls' Emo rock, Rob, right?  8)


PS: I'm probably not the first to observe this, but they do like REM a lot, don't they?

PPS: With a bit of Runrig thrown in for good measure!  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 03, 2021, 01:39:30 PM
Adam Driver and Marion Cotillard in a movie together - with Sparks doing the soundtrack? Sounds interesting.  :popcorn:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On4v1gNJkrEd


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3mNRymKZg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 03, 2021, 02:38:20 PM
Listening to it just now. You do realize that it's girls' Emo rock, Rob, right?  8)

Yeah isn't it cool!

PS: I'm probably not the first to observe this, but they do like REM a lot, don't they?

REM could only dream of a songwriter like Justin Currie.
Awful band.

PPS: With a bit of Runrig thrown in for good measure!  ;)
I have no idea who they are. Never heard the name before.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 07, 2021, 11:09:31 AM
Tom Jones.
81 years old.
End Boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qfw6pon9tA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on June 07, 2021, 11:19:27 AM
Good heavens, there is more power and vitality in that voice then any half-dozen lesser singers put together.

What a powerhouse of a singer!  I've always been blown away by his voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 08, 2021, 07:06:30 AM
I've seen good ole Tom twice in recent years - they were really good nights out. It's not like he has totally dumped all Las Vegas'isms from his performance, but they are subdued nowadays and only occasionally presented (with a twinkle in the eye). The band is top notch and so is his voice. And he really seems to enjoy playing with people that could be his grandchildren. His more recent albums are all well worth a listen too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 08, 2021, 07:18:31 AM
My mom loved him, so I grew up hearing plenty in the 70s (on Parrot Records). What a voice! Cool guy too. I don't seem to recall any scandals involving him in all these years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 08, 2021, 08:54:03 PM
He's still got it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 10, 2021, 08:22:27 AM
Leonard Cohen liked this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWiPFT0v2c


But then whatever happened to Crosby, Stillls,


Jones,


Nash & Young?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIDzA0YDso8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 11, 2021, 07:30:29 AM
I just watched a video yesterday of Tom Jones talking about his association with Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones. Pretty cool stuff, wish I could find it now. He said even after Zep started to take off, JPJ was still playing on his sessions. Page played guitar and harmonica on his first single (among other things).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Grog on June 12, 2021, 06:42:30 AM
My mom loved him, so I grew up hearing plenty in the 70s (on Parrot Records). What a voice! Cool guy too. I don't seem to recall any scandals involving him in all these years.
.

My parents like his records also. I was shocked to see (maybe in a PBS special) that he was into blues music to the extent he was. It took a bit to get used to, but he was great!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 17, 2021, 02:53:06 PM
Mike Reno, singer of that other Canadian band Loverboy, felt ill during a gig and handed the mike over to a fan in the audience towards the end of the set. I mean what could go wrong even if it went wrong? There was always the chick backing singer to prevent the worst.

But her help wasn't needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFvtjYKZHzw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on June 17, 2021, 03:56:02 PM
This is Dick Dale live in 2017, 3-parts with Rumble - Pipeline- House of the Rising Sun. This is about a year and a half before his death.

I just love Sam Bolle's bas carrying the tune solo in House....even with the incredibly bright strings, the way Dick liked them.

RIP, Dick!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fHtrmRt4Hg&list=RDGMEM3vRVvLY6rn_98uxOr5tY5A&start_radio=1

And then I fell into this one. WOW. Beth Hart has a punch!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIZEol5Zkk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on June 18, 2021, 07:36:30 AM
Leonard Cohen liked this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWiPFT0v2c


I don't like the way he changes the cadence and in the video over acts (he's shaking his head no a full line early before he says 'not coming home').  It's hard to take a Cohen song and take even more pis and vinegar out of it.

My favorite version of ToS , obviously, is going to the one by The Jesus and Mary Chain.

That CSNY collab is pretty good though, somehow, counter-intuitively.  They're really meeting in the middle on that one; both of them a bit out of their element (tough young looks real into it.... or high.... or both).

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on June 19, 2021, 08:37:04 PM
I didn't know much about them before this forum, but Sparks is a pretty interesting band and - hey, now there's a documentary out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVl9wNdplOg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 19, 2021, 10:05:12 PM
"You know, there's really only three female singers in the world: Barbra Streisand, Linda Ronstadt, and Connie Smith. The rest of us are only pretending."  -- Dolly Parton

https://youtu.be/wYGK3GvgaII
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 20, 2021, 01:50:11 PM
I didn't know much about them before this forum, but Sparks is a pretty interesting band and - hey, now there's a documentary out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVl9wNdplOg

How long did I need to preach here before finally someone says SOMETHING!!! I had given up and accepted that Yanks simply "don't get" their own countrymen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Bascision on June 20, 2021, 08:24:34 PM
This is Dick Dale live in 2017, 3-parts with Rumble - Pipeline- House of the Rising Sun. This is about a year and a half before his death.

I just love Sam Bolle's bas carrying the tune solo in House....even with the incredibly bright strings, the way Dick liked them.

RIP, Dick!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fHtrmRt4Hg&list=RDGMEM3vRVvLY6rn_98uxOr5tY5A&start_radio=1

This is really great. :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2021, 02:23:16 AM
Sounds like a Neil Young sound check.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on June 26, 2021, 12:54:12 PM
Sounds like a Neil Young sound check.  :popcorn:

But that distinctive nasal vocal sound is missing!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 26, 2021, 10:32:03 PM
https://youtu.be/_jsoWutvs74
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 27, 2021, 10:51:36 AM
^^^
You might be interested in this

https://www.rte.ie/culture/2020/0408/1129214-an-evening-with-john-prine-a-classic-from-the-rte-archives/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 27, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
^^^
You might be interested in this

https://www.rte.ie/culture/2020/0408/1129214-an-evening-with-john-prine-a-classic-from-the-rte-archives/

Thanks, I've heard cuts from it but not the whole program.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 28, 2021, 12:26:47 AM
Thanks, I've heard cuts from it but not the whole program.

You're welcome - I've found through the years RTE can be very useful
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 29, 2021, 06:28:55 AM
Going (yet again!) through a Looking Glass/Starz phase currently, essentially the same band (Looking Glass morphed into Starz with a new singer and a new lead guitarist), though you can only really hear it a bit in the backing vocals as the link between the two (courtesy of the bassist Peter Sweval who had a kind of Michael Anthony role).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqTE7aNjZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAS9mygJi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSLLyp5I7Ng

But I do hear similarities between the intro to Brandy (at 00:30) and Cherry Baby (at  00:30 as well), that "ascension" to the verse, old, but effective songwriting trick. If something works once, why not try it again!  :mrgreen: That Jack Douglas production holds up well to this day too, talk about a prominently audible bass!

Criminally underrated band. They fell into a bad era for melodic hard rock. They would have been huge either a few years earlier or a few years later.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:07 AM

 I had no idea of the connection between the two, I saw STARZ on vinyl somewhere in the house, they were, I think unfairly labeled as "KISS without the makeup" by the  music press. I saw them in '76 at the now long gone Kingdome here in Seattle, they opened for Jeff Beck and Aerosmith.

https://youtu.be/gFkbZym5930

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 29, 2021, 08:43:39 AM
I was a huge KISS fan when Starz came out. I thought they were Aerosmith wannabes. Actually saw them with Angel shortly before the pandemic hit. Both bands obviously with different than original lineups, but it was really a lot of fun. Good vibes in the air at that show.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 29, 2021, 01:51:17 PM
The Kiss comparison came from having the same management (certainly not musically justified, heavy-handed as Kiss were, while Starz' songwriting was even a little clever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUeS9GeG-w

in a sort of Queen'esque or perhaps even Queensryche-y way), but I'm with Tom, imagewise they were closer aligned with Aerosmith though they were much less blues- and more power pop influenced plus of course that copious harmony guitar leads thing which the Bostonians largely eschewed. Actually, they were not so far away from what Bon Jovi would be doing (with enduring success!) a few years later. When I first heard Living On A Prayer on the radio I thought to myself in the car: "Darn, does that sound like a Starz chorus!" But then Jon Bon Jovi was a fan, practicing Starz songs in his garage as a teen. New Jersey Mafia, what can you say!  8)

Angel and Starz together at one gig, now that is two 70ies "Almost Famous"es lumped together!  :) They should have added Starcastle and Legs Diamond to the bill. :rimshot:

For the record: All four were fine bands, just unlucky. When it comes to melodic hard rock with a slight pop tweak, the US of A is pretty much unbeatable at its own game.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 30, 2021, 08:19:28 AM
It IS kind of odd that Starz didn't break through with the hard rock/power pop one-two punch. Cheap Trick and Van Halen they were not, but still...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 30, 2021, 08:31:11 AM



 Karen Ann Quinlan anyone.......

https://youtu.be/BZyW9rkoIXo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 30, 2021, 11:26:01 AM
For a hard rock band whose singer wore pink scarves around his waist and whose lyrics generally dealt with more, uhum, hands on matters ...

"She reached over and she squeezed on my rocks, I lost it all in the popcorn box ..."


... Pull The Plug SURE HAD a daring subject matter. Especially since Michael Lee Smith with his butch looks sang it like he meant it too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 30, 2021, 03:54:43 PM


 Absolutely, I remember there being a bit of a fuss over that song, some stations refused to play it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 01, 2021, 03:33:41 AM
Knowing you, you probably read all kinds of ulterior (or for that matter: interior) things into that innocent title. Nothing seems sacred.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 01, 2021, 07:40:20 AM
Knowing you, you probably read all kinds of ulterior (or for that matter: interior) things into that innocent title. Nothing seems sacred.  :rimshot:
   

 I was a fiend for Mom's clothes and happily often had the house to myself for several days at a time - stuff happened! 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on July 01, 2021, 12:26:49 PM
The whole clip is fun to watch, but this "Never Say Never" is my favorite song by these kids:

https://youtu.be/GXfC_n-_ZBE?t=231
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 02, 2021, 08:09:49 AM
The whole clip is fun to watch, but this "Never Say Never" is my favorite song by these kids:

https://youtu.be/GXfC_n-_ZBE?t=231

Fun stuff! There's a song about my cat on my band's last album too.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 02, 2021, 09:45:15 PM
https://youtu.be/K4Uhs82k_CU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2021, 10:10:02 AM
Dumb can be lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
A six CD collection of Rex Smith's work, that is what I have been listening too!  :gay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fWMPWLUhk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UwbaQCxg3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S03ouYb05-4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 07, 2021, 01:25:49 PM
Dumb can be lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU
   

I have this on vinyl, it's dumb, yes and I like it. Not everything needs to be complex to be good - I think good "dumb" music is, in some ways more difficult to create than some give it credit for.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 08, 2021, 08:33:31 AM
Dumb can be lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU

I definitely thought that was dumb when it came out. Lovely, not so much. I was more interested in the Politics of Dancing while being Blinded by Science, so what do I know?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 08, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
Oh my, Tom outs himself as a New Romantic/Electro Kid turned Proggie! What's next? It's been ages since I heard this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k

That other Tom (Dolby) can also be heard here (not in the video seen), he was asked to do the modernistic spheric layered synths by Mick Jones to give Foreigner a more contemporary sound. He sure did, mission accomplished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUNJc22MAb8



To me, Autograph sounded a bit like dumbed down Loverboy (if that's possible), which means they sure were mining deep!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 09, 2021, 07:13:24 AM
Progger turned New Waver! I think it was a natural progression (all those keyboards!), and I know there are plenty like me out there. I used to be kinda pretty too.  ;D

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/86345755_10218249229960684_5531375298324463616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=dLqQhEgSNTwAX8FUBDt&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=bd7c47da45cc1eca1dc99f013fd74d00&oe=60ECBE09)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 10, 2021, 06:34:45 AM
A pick-me-up for a sleepy Saturday morning.

https://youtu.be/Ha914XeQtKU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 11, 2021, 06:24:38 AM
https://youtu.be/TKCW0wvFeoE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 12, 2021, 07:47:21 AM


 Gotta give a big "thanks" to BklynKen for putting me onto this.........Don't ask me how I'd never heard this until now, much Billy Duffy coolness!

 https://youtu.be/zTPLJplhWHw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2021, 11:05:13 AM
A pick-me-up for a sleepy Saturday morning.

https://youtu.be/Ha914XeQtKU

With John B Sparks chording (!) an added six rock'n'roll rhythm guitar on his Grabber at the 12th fret and some intricate masturbation choreography of Wilko and Lee, what more could you possibly ask for?

And Dave always says he doesn't like chords on bass, we've caught him out now.  8) He's never commented on masturbation choreography one way or the other, so we have to let that rest.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2021, 07:19:37 AM
I stumbled across this totally by accident, never heard of them, but my, it is cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGCDkW6UvE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 13, 2021, 07:51:36 AM

 :P
 Wow, I like that!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2021, 09:43:42 PM
It's like Yoko Ono (if she could sing), Jethro Tull, Yngwie Malmsteen, System of a Down, the Disney Mulan soundtrack and Helloween (the German melodic speed metallers) lumped together, but the result is thoroughly pleasant!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 15, 2021, 03:44:00 PM
Probably won't pass Dave's exacting "real country" test, but I'm a sucker for her voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zjFZTmM3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCrBH_zrpMQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 15, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
^^^
Never heard of her, reminds me of Bobbie Gentry with maybe a little Karen Carpenter thrown in. Not country, but nice.

In other news, Linda Ronstadt tuned 75 on Thursday,

https://youtu.be/6qPlGQVsAws
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 16, 2021, 05:48:36 AM
That someone like Linda is robbed of her voice through a cruel disease is bitter.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 16, 2021, 07:43:29 AM

Never heard of her, reminds me of Bobbie Gentry with maybe a little Karen Carpenter thrown in. Not country, but nice.


You've spotted the Karen Carpenter connection with her before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxwoK5pYM48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mhnwIt3pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERzNIzrEnLg

But the Bobby Gentry comparison is apt too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv33eaygVDQ



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 17, 2021, 09:17:26 PM
Don't blame me, blame YT's algorithms.

https://youtu.be/HICPDZWnSeg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 18, 2021, 07:01:52 AM
That's a nice song, Dave, nothing to be ashamed of, not as cutting edge as, say, Budgie, but still ...

BTW, I'm now the proud owner of an 8 CD Bobby Gentry box, thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 18, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Is that Tommy Caldwell on Precision special? Would have been the same year he passed as the bass’s first year of production. He was like the Cliff Burton of country rock. Both bands lost a lot of potential with out each of them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 19, 2021, 12:05:00 AM
That's a nice song, Dave, nothing to be ashamed of, not as cutting edge as, say, Budgie, but still ...

BTW, I'm now the proud owner of an 8 CD Bobby Gentry box, thanks for the tip!

It's a great song, it was overplayed back in the day but I've come to appreciate it now,

Is that Tommy Caldwell on Precision special? Would have been the same year he passed as the bass’s first year of production. He was like the Cliff Burton of country rock. Both bands lost a lot of potential with out each of them.

It's Tommy, but I'm pretty sure that's just a regular P with a white Dimarzio Split P pickup.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 19, 2021, 02:57:08 PM
Alas!, a yacht rock jewel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4uSzrsOQr8

Not yacht, more a speedboat ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JRgHol94Xc

Her hubby was/is a hot guitarist. But how did they manage to make her look so tall in that vid? She's 1,52m / 4 ft 10!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 19, 2021, 10:17:09 PM
From the depths of my playlists. Vocal by Bonnie Guitar, who was the second Mrs. Tutmarc.

https://youtu.be/skfqZUy20NQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 23, 2021, 08:51:05 AM
Patty Smyth with two 'y's, her talent should have really taken her somewhere else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfmNsesuw0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1EBFIRzYQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 23, 2021, 08:59:00 AM
Oranje pride. Though Rob always mocks me for liking them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54R9zE_hJk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 23, 2021, 09:54:14 AM


 I saw Pat B way back in the day, she was touring with Billy Squier - great bill! Billy was on the rise, "The Stroke" was on Seattle FM, and his band was really good, I've forgotten who his drummer and bassist were, monstrous sound from the two of them!

 Pat B's band has two guitarists at the time, Scott St Clair Sheets was a standout on Rhythm guitar, he got one solo the whole night and killed it. Not that Neil Giraldo is a slouch! Probably one of the very best concerts I went to.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 23, 2021, 10:35:06 AM
Billy's rhythm section was indeed ace:

Bobby Chouinard and Kenny Aaronson!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KCdNMRcprs&list=RDEM1fsdNvJOOQGI4mNUQgkFLA&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69fPof-ZTnU&list=RDEM1fsdNvJOOQGI4mNUQgkFLA&index=2

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/drummer-bob-chouinard-of-the-bostonbased-folk-band-orphan-performs-at-picture-id1206860742?s=2048x2048)

(https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/yppFZoyllEOPQAsXlhPgJWR33k8=/fit-in/1072x0/filters:focal(858x877:859x878)/https://contest-public-media.si-cdn.com/bd83a085-9f1c-4c40-8772-f9315fcdb1a9.jpg)

I saw them around the same time as opening act of Whitesnake on their Come And Get It Tour in I believe Mannheim. Whitesnake were in their European prime back then, but Billy & the Boys forced them to give that extra effort - as a great opening act should. Squier had a great sound and lights and he played a set tighter than a virgin's butt with his extremely catchy songs and his "Peter Frampton of the 80ies"-good looks. Kenny Aaronson was a-f***-ama-zing!!! Looking like he had stumbled in from a Stray Cats gig, he was an immaculate showman and a really flashy bass player. To his credit, Squier left him lots of room and Kenny was no shrinking violet, it was rock bass master class "Who cares if I'm louder than the guitars?!".

On that tour, cheeky Billy actually offered the other two ex-Deep Purple guys in Whitesnake - Jon Lord and Ian Paice - a job in his band! That would have been something.  8)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 29, 2021, 12:46:16 PM

 

 How about some Rickenbacker love with Mike Mesaros of The Smithereens, pretty "up" in the mix!

https://youtu.be/fk_vbo1goDs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 31, 2021, 01:43:32 PM
Donnie Iris. To my eternal shame, I had never ever even heard of him until now. But his "hard rock/pop/new wave meets Elvis Costello/Randy Newman" is right up my nerd alley. Reminds me of The Cars (but with more ooomph) and that is always a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3V9scwUkY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 31, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
I had never heard of him either.  I like what I heard!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 31, 2021, 05:30:25 PM
How about some Rickenbacker love with Mike Mesaros of The Smithereens, pretty "up" in the mix!

Smithereens are always good. I listen to them often.

Donnie Iris. To my eternal shame, I had never ever even heard of him until now. But his "hard rock/pop/new wave meets Elvis Costello/Randy Newman" is right up my nerd alley. Reminds me of The Cars (but with more ooomph) and that is always a good thing.

I had never heard of him either.  I like what I heard!

But both of you must have heard Donnie before:

https://youtu.be/nPBlR3l5nds
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 31, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
There is something very Zappa'esque to his work - probably that Doo-Wop influence both have.

He also played with Wild Cherry - but only after Play That Funky Music was a hit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 02, 2021, 07:21:04 AM
Ah Leah was a pretty big hit in these parts. A new cover band I've been trying to get together is doing it.  ;D Never heard of him again beyond that one song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 02, 2021, 12:19:03 PM
Donnie Iris. To my eternal shame, I had never ever even heard of him until now. But his "hard rock/pop/new wave meets Elvis Costello/Randy Newman" is right up my nerd alley. Reminds me of The Cars (but with more ooomph) and that is always a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3V9scwUkY
   


 Ah, Leah was pretty big on Seattle FM, I like it and noodle along with it every now and then  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 02, 2021, 12:21:48 PM
Smithereens are always good. I listen to them often.

 

 I really like them a lot, I think they were a bit underrated, love Mesaros' bass playing, he's very solid yet creative given the nature of their songs. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 02, 2021, 04:12:23 PM
 

 I really like them a lot, I think they were a bit underrated, love Mesaros' bass playing, he's very solid yet creative given the nature of their songs.

Underrated is an overused word but it really fits the Smithereens. They were always solid, tuneful rockers, and Mike's bass was always great. They had a faithful fan base, but I always thought it should have been bigger.

https://youtu.be/vqML7WbOun8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 04, 2021, 08:26:00 AM


 So many great songs from them, I'd never seen this.

https://youtu.be/CGF-VXcZ30Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 04, 2021, 11:30:56 AM
Yes, even in 2021, Yacht Rock lives and is sailing alive and well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ne5dVDfLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVUiqTN6eY

They really put an effort into those 80ies keyboard sounds and the MTV style vids.  :mrgreen:


Unrelated, oh my, Rory, you are sorely missed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhDq5EDYlzc

I love Rod de'Ath's busy, but really musical drumming. The band wasn't the same after he and Lou Martin (keyb) were dismissed by Rory in an effort to sound current after having witnessed a Sex Pistols gig in San Francisco.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 04, 2021, 03:16:18 PM
And now for something completely different, should appeal to Dave. Greying LA wolves revisit hits of their youth on their latest record ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZWAa5DYVTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nU_OmIvSrA

and write a song of their own too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQXT1soR1g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 04, 2021, 11:23:57 PM
I do like Los Lobos.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 05, 2021, 05:17:53 AM
I know. Your brand of "roots'n'roll".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 06, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
The wife is going to the Cape with her friends and the kid without me this weekend so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ml3nyww80

This came on the radio. What an ear worm. Kind of like the over rated version of the Smithereens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmGMzyajA2U

Seems weird that they had two monster hits with this and "what I like about you" then nothing else. Hitting lightning twice isn't too shabby I guess.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 06, 2021, 02:45:24 PM
Now this is more like it! Proper, tuneful hard rock that's refreshingly Led Zep-free, has great harmony guitars and some brains to the arrangement. By my favorite Yank AOR gods of Night Ranger, they have a new album out.

https://youtu.be/Szs1Yi6gKb8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3bOb9yvIk

Flashback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nnOFXIDM4s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 06, 2021, 10:59:43 PM
A couple of old favorites. Texas Panhandle music from Jimmie Dale Gilmore (not Gilmer)

https://youtu.be/W2syjlmeSyw

https://youtu.be/Nu2y4k53Cr4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 07, 2021, 06:17:24 AM
Looks like Jack Blades has been rocking Les Paul double cut shaped basses for a while. I got excited for a second that Gibson was coming out with some new ones from those Night Ranger vids. It seems they're from a small builder in Arizona called Atomic Guitar Works.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 07, 2021, 09:43:00 AM
He's been playing that shape forever, they used to be all Hamers. I guess he likes that shape because he's so tiny. Any larger bass would look like it has legs on him.

Or perhaps because a Republican invented it?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Lil' Jack is kinda vocal about his party leanings, but he never crosses the line to the inane unlike his former Damn Yankees buddy from Deeetroit.

I think Brad Gillis is an unsung American guitar hero. He's a funky shredder, if there is such a thing. Behind all the flash and dive bomb tremolo bar use, his solos are rhythmically ambitious.

Night Ranger are probably regarded by most people as the archetypical white boy Wonder Bread AOR band, but lest we forget: Jack Blades and Brad Gillis learned their chops with this Tower of Power'ish outfit here, which sprang from the debris of what was once Sly & The Family Stone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbfp9Vm4C8A

And if you want to hear a skillfully Jazz Bass slappin' Jack, just go to 40:55 and 45:06. You also now know where he got his show band choreography dance moves from!  ;D

Now Night Ranger sure aren't the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but I still hear that funk influence in their music not only via Gillis' solos, but also in the way they use starts and stops. Something in Night Ranger's music always made me not just want to bang my head, but also move my butt. They are vastly underrated as a band. Yank musicianship at its finest - yes, you guys can be that hellishly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xImQG9rDCI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 09, 2021, 08:29:09 AM
I saw that Rubicon clip when it first aired and took note of the bass player. I was shocked to find out years later that that was Jack Blades!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 09, 2021, 10:57:25 AM
Preconceptions, Tom, preconceptions, you have to liberate your biased horizons, tsk, tsk, tsk ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 09, 2021, 02:08:12 PM
We're headed to Red Rocks tonight for a Joe Bonamassa blues concert.

Should be just under 80 at 8:00, about 75 when the show finishes.

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/crowd-at-red-rocks-amphitheatre-in-morrison-co-picture-id500841183?s=612x612) 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 09, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Have fun and (dutifully) report!

I think Joe overexposes himself with all those releases, he is in danger of becoming the Phil Collins of blues guitar, but the man can play!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 10, 2021, 07:48:05 AM
Have fun and (dutifully) report!

I think Joe overexposes himself with all those releases, he is in danger of becoming the Phil Collins of blues guitar, but the man can play!
   

 For some reason I don't quite "get" him, but Blues and me aren't Kissing Cousins....... :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 10, 2021, 10:36:47 AM
Have fun and (dutifully) report!

I think Joe overexposes himself with all those releases, he is in danger of becoming the Phil Collins of blues guitar, but the man can play!

I wish that I had enjoyed it more.  Bonamassa is a guitar virtuoso, but he's also prone to deciding he's more important than the music and wanking by stretching his solos.  To be fair, he always gave his bass player (Michael Rhodes)and keyboard player (Reese Wynans) highlights as well, but the spotlight is almost always on him. The band was four-piece (guitar/bass/drums/keyboards) with Joe and a female singer whose name I didn't catch.

There were a few tunes where the group got into a groove and I enjoyed it, but very few. He ended the encore with a very good version of Cream's Crossroads, and that really rocked.  The guy can do blues-rock extremely well when he wants to.

If you're already a fan of Bonamassa and like his slightly wanky version of blues, it would be great.  For us, there were occasional moments of goodness, but much of it was more of a spectator event.  Unfortunate there was one row of drunks in front us who insisted on standing, dancing, and hugging on each other, presenting an occasionally impenetrable wall that we couldn't see through.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
  Bonamassa is a guitar virtuoso, but he's also prone to deciding he's more important than the music and wanking by stretching his solos.

Well said.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 11, 2021, 07:05:26 PM
The million Dollar question, Dave (W), of course is: Is it real country?

https://youtu.be/fZ6bli9Xir4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 11, 2021, 10:57:16 PM
I saw that yesterday, very clever mashup.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 13, 2021, 08:27:36 AM
A couple of old favorites. Texas Panhandle music from Jimmie Dale Gilmore (not Gilmer)

https://youtu.be/W2syjlmeSyw


Both the song and the dancer in the background keep playing in my mind.  Very nicely done!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 14, 2021, 12:06:17 AM
Jimmie is the lesser known member of the Flatlanders -- Joe Ely and Butch Hancock have been more visible over the years.

https://youtu.be/pIzl2Pvvdv0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 14, 2021, 08:42:02 AM
Does anyone know what the style of dance in that Gilmore "Mind of its Own" is called?  Looks like something that would have originated in either Texas or the Appalachians.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on August 14, 2021, 09:30:36 AM
Clogging
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 14, 2021, 11:52:12 AM
Clogging

Thanks. I knew I had seen it before; that's a bit different than what I had seen, but recognizable. I didn't have a name for it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 16, 2021, 10:50:30 PM
Joe Ely, early 90s

https://youtu.be/cmIEhhqdU-M


At SXSW 2010

https://youtu.be/qbBw9F0cOmI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2021, 09:03:59 PM
https://youtu.be/6q45sDnQF-M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 20, 2021, 12:15:48 PM
Where is Progboy/Tom?

https://youtu.be/WyuvS_CbO5A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 20, 2021, 12:34:07 PM
Not "real country" for our more discerning subscribers, but pretty damn good Eagles harmonies, I could imagine Glenn Frey crooning this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJAkRmF6Czc

This is even more Glenn Frey'ish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mAWrDFWS-c

I KNOW THEY'RE CHEESY AND FAKE, so what, I'm Yuropean, I'm allowed to like this, so there!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc4wYqWtO-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy6hWDKl99k

Dann Huff of Giant produced those Midland tracks and man can you tell ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4-qWZW6hY


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 23, 2021, 08:04:00 AM
Where is Progboy/Tom?

https://youtu.be/WyuvS_CbO5A

I'm actually not that familiar with GG. I'm usually put off by the vocal style, but this is nice. Always enjoy mallet percussion.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: amptech on August 23, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
Where is Progboy/Tom?

https://youtu.be/WyuvS_CbO5A
Another great GG song!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 24, 2021, 12:26:55 AM
Predecessor of Gentle Giant

https://youtu.be/_SuZuyqlMoI

https://youtu.be/rBd7zytZ2-Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2021, 06:54:08 AM
It's almost Type O season and I'm getting in the mood... 1, 2, 1234!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIWRan3XGY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2021, 07:05:15 AM
The probable new guitarist in my band Nomadic Horizon is a big King's X fan. They never clicked with me for whatever reason. I had previously picked a random song here and there on YouTube, but when I met this guy, I decided to give it another go and tried whole albums instead. That worked much better and I'm finally a fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x22PACYbves
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2021, 07:08:46 AM
I followed these guys in the 90s. Chicago based progressive/noise band Cheer Accident. They're kind of all over the place stylistically, but what I hear a lot of is a combination of Capt. Beefheart, King Crimson, and the Jesus Lizard. This is a seemingly nice tune until about 2:40.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esTSfDfpeN8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2021, 05:45:40 AM
It's almost Type O season and I'm getting in the mood... 1, 2, 1234!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIWRan3XGY

I always liked Type O Negative's "Depeche Mode artsy depression goes Heavy Metal"-music too. Good ole Pete, may the devil unrest his unholy heathen soul, that - sorry, Joey DeMaio! - manliest of bassists (I still wonder whether that chain wasn't made of plastic rather than steel(e) though).

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTM5YTNmMzgtNTgxNi00MDY0LWI2NTYtNjY0ODk3NGEwZjRiXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_UY317_CR5,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2021, 05:57:08 AM
I followed these guys in the 90s. Chicago based progressive/noise band Cheer Accident. They're kind of all over the place stylistically, but what I hear a lot of is a combination of Capt. Beefheart, King Crimson, and the Jesus Lizard. This is a seemingly nice tune until about 2:40.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esTSfDfpeN8

What Marilyn listens to when he wants to "relax with some PROG".  :mrgreen:

(https://img.welt.de/img/kultur/mobile100585667/4962505077-ci102l-w1024/mansontaufmacher-DW-Lifestyle-Mougins-jpg.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 31, 2021, 07:51:06 AM

 I had to stay late at work the other day, told Frank he was on his own for dinner,, he did ok, I came home to some leftover pizza and he was watching this...

Actually the whole show, he surprises me, pleasantly.

 https://youtu.be/ooKz6Oa7lrk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2021, 08:28:17 AM
Yesss, the grandmasters of sophisiticated English folk-tinged harmony guitar playing that doesn't sound like Boston or some Southern Rock outfit! Let's not even mention Thin Lizzy and their children's melodies.

You gotta keep him, Mark, he might not be self-sufficient in the kitchen, but has exquisite musical taste!!!

I'm sure Frank's interest was entirely musical too. We wouldn't want ulterior motives to get in the way though you might want to somewhat limit Wishbone Ash viewing time for him to say, 15 minutes a week, Mark?

(https://c8.alamy.com/compde/ccc2jx/wishbone-ash-uk-rock-gruppe-uber-1973-von-links-martin-turner-andy-powell-laurie-wisefield-steve-upton-ccc2jx.jpg)

(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/361916193689_/1-german-clipping-WISHBONE-ASH-LAURIE-WISEFIELD-SHIRTLESS.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuP3FROH5HfElURnP3bY1hSOMtk5Tg4Xc7Zw&usqp=CAU)
(back in HOME days, with a later
member of some Aussie outfit)

Little Laurie, the old harmony heartthrob and Susanna Hoffs dead ringer! The other Ashers used to make fun of him because he had his own Japanese girls fan club who, of course, all called him "Laulie".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnfEWqOWI0Q

Laulie's solo vocal spot at O2:15!

But he wasn't just a poster pretty boy, all the other band members agreed that when he joined the band, everyone had to try harder because he was extremely fluid on guitar and brought many chops and much musical knowledge with him. His predecessor, Ted Turner, was a more intuitive player, but with no band experience prior to WA. Laurie  had recorded with Home and toured as a member of Al Stewart's backing band. After WA he played with Tina Turner and Roger Chapman plus of course in the stage band of the Queen "We Will Rock You" musical, hand-picked by Brian May.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 31, 2021, 03:18:17 PM
Yesss, the grandmasters of sophisiticated English folk-tinged harmony guitar playing that doesn't sound like Boston or some Southern Rock outfit! Let's not even mention Thin Lizzy and their children's melodies.

You gotta keep him, Mark, he might not be self-sufficient in the kitchen, but has exquisite musical taste!!!

I'm sure Frank's interest was entirely musical too. We wouldn't want ulterior motives to get in the way though you might want to somewhat limit Wishbone Ash viewing time for him to say, 15 minutes a week, Mark?

 

 I will say it was a nice surprise, often if I leave him  to his own devices he'll be watching a YT of some car guy working on a Subaru....... So the WA was nice, I'll get a ring on him one of these days. 



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 02, 2021, 04:18:32 PM
A local friend pointed this one out to me.

Easily the best Billy Joel cover anywhere.

https://youtu.be/03K4J_nstcI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2021, 06:10:53 AM
Domo arigato for this, Dave. I admire the widow's courage, I really do. The ethereal spirit of the Kamikaze is alive and well with her, the Ancestors must be smiling benevolently on such intrepidation.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AcidicPeacefulBighorn-size_restricted.gif)

You go out there and sing like that start singing like that!



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2021, 06:19:34 AM
Some Scandinavian (Danes?) outfit, I've never heard of. Old people, really. 80ies pastiche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzEY1MfXrQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KYR5eUVMqA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2021, 10:05:44 AM
60s R&B day

https://youtu.be/UVmNJzM6LB8

https://youtu.be/C1YusSmtBU0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on September 03, 2021, 12:20:41 PM
I love Lee Dorsey . It’s classical music for me .
Always loved this one …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMOUbD6YGk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2021, 08:46:55 PM
A huge (one) hit (wonder) in Europe and Australia in 78/79, but not in the US. Canadian siblings with a German father who grew up in California and had - strangely - a Dutch record deal, perhaps a bit too international? Leslie (the sister) sure wasn't flat. And note-perfect too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqM3P7LziIc


Random thought: If I admit that I thought 'Working In The Coal Mine' was a song by Blue Swede, will that get me ousted from this forum of fora?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzfY_u9bXHc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 09, 2021, 07:04:41 AM
Such a great guitarist. And bassist (at 8:20). Effortless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrAFb3I2js
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 09, 2021, 11:24:22 PM
https://youtu.be/hf15HrUZ5Wk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 10, 2021, 07:01:59 AM
I love EC but it's tough to beat the original version with the Meters rhythm section. Slap is like a spice that gets used to much and in most cases no slap is best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY
I was expecting this version of Baby it's you. In my head since the Tarantino movie. He should get a station on satellite radio if he ever stops directing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIGo31k-qkw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 10, 2021, 07:11:49 AM
Always loved that Dr. John song, first heard it on some sampler in the mid-seventies. In 1988 I actually got to see him live, a rather low-key affair in some Manhattan club/bar, he didn't even have a band with him, his career was a bit in the doldrums at that time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on September 10, 2021, 08:38:48 AM


 I'm not a huge fan of Zakk, but I find this fun - especially the bassist and her Gibson EB, the drummer is quite good as well. No need to watch past about 2:50 unless you day needs a lot of wanking.

https://youtu.be/mjKXtM79IWc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 10, 2021, 09:00:25 AM
Some people try to get acoustic sounds out of their electric axes. But trust Zakk to dig out an acoustic guitar and make it - hear and behold - sound just like one of his battery-souped up Les Pauls.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Reverse engineering.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2021, 06:24:22 AM
Hardcore SCTV fans know this classic sketch which costars John Candy and Dr. John.

If you just want to hear Dr. John's songs, go to 6:30 and 10:30, but you'll miss the humor.

https://youtu.be/T9H81Yq9TRE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 11, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
https://youtu.be/hf15HrUZ5Wk

This tune is one of my favorites, too.  I loved the single, and I like Clapton's flourishes here.  Great tune, and emblematic of Dr. John.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 13, 2021, 07:14:08 AM

 I'm not a huge fan of Zakk, but I find this fun - especially the bassist and her Gibson EB, the drummer is quite good as well. No need to watch past about 2:50 unless you day needs a lot of wanking.

https://youtu.be/mjKXtM79IWc

That actually sounds better than his normal processed tone. And miracle of miracles, I don't think I heard any pinch harmonics!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2021, 08:30:11 AM
I miss Jake E. Lee. The Ozzy guitarist I liked best.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on September 13, 2021, 12:00:23 PM
Well it's not like Jake E Lee is dead. He was touring with his band red dragon cartel in 2019. Not as high profile but still out there slugging it out.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 13, 2021, 12:10:57 PM
I like Jake E Lee's work with Badlands best.
That was a killer band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6LXVqetMeo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on September 14, 2021, 08:31:57 AM


 Not suggesting anybody watch the entire show here but the first 4:45 is "Wonderland", possibly the best song Big Country ever wrote, RIP Stuart Adamson. - Tony Butler is an amazing bassist, largely  unknown, love his fluid playing, no wanking.

 https://youtu.be/1UlnVnQ06ZM 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 14, 2021, 10:26:05 AM
Great band. With a very distinctive style
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 17, 2021, 10:07:54 PM
This was a #1 hit in Russia last year. A friend posted it on his FB timeline yesterday. I feel the need to share.

https://youtu.be/nUwTnJ8yFXY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 18, 2021, 05:51:18 AM
I like the Tim Burton vibe.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 18, 2021, 10:20:53 AM
Dangerously catchy. I showed it to my wife, and now I find myself tempted to answer any question with "Burritos, burritos!!"
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 18, 2021, 04:43:34 PM
They're a trio from St. Petersburg (not the one in Florida). They've been around since 2013. Their YT channel has 6.84 million subscribers, and the video has over 106 million views in 13 months. Yet we never heard of them.

Them Russkies must like performance art.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 20, 2021, 02:29:30 PM
https://youtu.be/9k_aj6b2xsA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2021, 04:30:40 PM
Some wow and flutter there!  Somehow, I don't miss tapes at all. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2021, 06:02:51 PM
Currently listening to the 50th Anniversary Boxed Set of Jesus Christ Superstar. I'm a hopeless religious romantic! This is the original 1970 version with Gillan's and Murray Head's vocals dubbed over the film scenes. Yvonne Elliman, of course, sang both on the (superior) 1970 original and the 1973 movie soundtrack. I liked the rawness, freshness and tenderness of the original version. It wasn't perfect, but it was organic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J30tQxAkvPY

Rumors still abound that a largely unknown Liverpudlian named John was approached to sing the part of Jesus on the original, but he tied it to his wife Yoko (a Japanese performance artist of some note it is said) getting the part of Mary Magdalene. Heavenly powers must have intervened and luckily prevailed. Alas!, and the rest is alternative history we were spared from.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2021, 04:47:57 AM
From his final show, sigh. You darn yanks and your double-damned opioids, from a European viewpoint it amazes me how stuff 30 times stronger than heroin could be so liberally allowed by you for ages.  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ptdrgv77I&t=237s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNHB8vROg4

For the record, when I saw TP & HBs here in Germany something like 10 years ago, he and the band were stoned out of their minds; yet cannabis-shitfaced as they were, they never missed a note when playing (announcements were kinda mumbly and gigglish though - we've all been there). So there sure was an affinity to pleasant sedation. But numbing your lungs to the point where thy simply give up working is another matter.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 26, 2021, 10:45:05 PM
R.I.P. George Frayne, Commander Cody of Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen at 77 (https://www.noise11.com/news/r-i-p-george-frayne-commander-cody-of-commander-cody-and-his-lost-planet-airmen-at-77-20210927)

https://youtu.be/jDJgU63zYo0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2021, 03:45:37 AM
Shamefully, I do have to admit that I only knew that as a Pat Travers song.  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM0weRWS6EA

That rhyme "My poppa said son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin' if you don' stop ridin' that Hot Rod Lincoln ..." always stuck with me.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 27, 2021, 06:29:08 AM
Charley Ryan wrote and sang the original in 1955, it was inspired by Arkie Shibley's Hot Rod Race (1950), which is supposedly the first hot rod song. Ryan was actually building a hot rod Lincoln at the time, and it still exists. Ryan released a second version a few years later.

https://youtu.be/e58NJU5B3v8

The actual car (2013 video)
https://youtu.be/Yw0I4LIPTm8

Hot Rod Race
https://youtu.be/zJAO5gMgaIw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2021, 07:21:10 AM
You live and learn, I had no idea it went that far back!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 27, 2021, 01:21:12 PM
I've been really impressed by the tune that opens the Amazon series Bosch. Extremely cool intro, and the trumpet riff just nails the detective and film noir aspects of the series.

I finally looked up the artist and tune, and discovered the YouTube video that uses scenes from Orson Welles' 1962 movie The Trial for the video. 

The artist is Caught a Ghost. The tune is Can't let Go...one of the coolest tunes I have heard in a long, long time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPRgxcvX-4

And here's the program opening; great visual effects to go with the music...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMWc4Ol7yCM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2021, 04:21:41 PM
Cool tune, but does his mom approve of the music?

(https://houseofmysterioussecrets.com/images/product/D/tn.jpe)

Normaaaaan, turn it down!


She was always a little on the intrusive side.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 27, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
This band was a You Tube suggestion about a week ago.  I tried to check out their music.  In general, I don't favor music with a nu-metal influence.  Also, I like just a raw sound without backing tracks.  However, I like this band April Art, especially the lead singer's raspy vocals.  I was once in a band called April Smile.  Nevertheless, we never got as good as this.  A similar name, but not a similar sound.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNM6UJVfExA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2021, 04:54:01 AM
I like that she has an alto voice, too few women in rock do.

Why do they dress like they're all in jail?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 28, 2021, 08:48:01 AM
I like that she has an alto voice, too few women in rock do.

Why do they dress like they're all in jail?

The orange clothes must be a deliberate effort to project some kind of new image for the band.  I don't know much about them.  I tried to look them up, but didn't find much info. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAHgX--cROk&t=954s

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 28, 2021, 12:29:00 PM
Orange is the new Rock?  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2021, 01:36:45 PM
Himmel!, I only realize zis jetzt, sie sind fellow Krauts! From Gießen (in the same Bundesland as I am) of all places. Not bad at all and if I have to say so myself.

They didn't always look this Agent Orange-y, they were liebe Kinder once:

(https://storage.googleapis.com/leitmotiv-multi/regio-image-2020-10/1079223/xtralarge/aprilart_2020_quer1_juliekey.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq0RSAs7-G0&t=50s

Of course you can hear where they are coming from, another bunch of country(wo)men, who ruled the alt metal scene in Germany for a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obiyksyjGn0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 29, 2021, 12:52:08 PM
The Guano Apes videos are good.  I still prefer April Art, though, once again, mostly because of the vocals. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 30, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXNpzem0eI4

I'm only attracted by the music. Have always greatly appreciated Led Zeppelin in case that has gone unnoticed here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 30, 2021, 04:46:49 PM
Led Zeppelin was a great band.  But I just never could quite get into Robert Plant's high, idiosyncratic vocals.  I'm sure many people say exactly the same thing about Matthew Bellamy.  But I like Muse and have all their albums.  With Led Zeppelin I could take it or leave it and never got any of their albums.  Despite being an American, I never latched on to the fervor for LZ which was here for years and to some extent has never gone away.  Getting into with an argument about it isn't worth it, though.  I just don't care.  I don't even care that so many people don't like Muse and I'm a fan.  Once they got into doing music for that teenage vampire stuff, a blow to their image was inevitable.  In fact, I read somewhere that Chris Wolstenholme never supported their participation in that.  Besides that, you've also got the law of diminishing returns with each Muse album being worse than the last.  Bands can peak and decline, though.  That can be an unfortunate reality. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 30, 2021, 05:47:48 PM
I find Muse ... for lack of a better word ... a little contrived. I don't mind if music is weird or eclectic, I dig Max Webster, Be Bop Deluxe, Super Furry Animals, System of a Down, but with Muse everything sounds like hard work and intense planning to me, there is no fun in it and I hear little that is organic either. I can live with flashy grandeur if it's tongue in cheek, that is why Queen never rubbed me the wrong way. But Muse are serious, solemn, somber ... Yes, you guessed it, Radiohead does nothing for me either, I'm a creep!!!

For the avoidance of doubt: I'm not saying that Muse's (and Radiohead's for that matter) music is not written, played and recorded with great craftsmanship. Just not very exciting to me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 30, 2021, 06:02:51 PM
In case the Super Furry Animals mean nothing to you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnSpU2tXhhI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 30, 2021, 08:01:28 PM
I find Muse ... for lack of a better word ... a little contrived. I don't mind if music is weird or eclectic, I dig Max Webster, Be Bop Deluxe, Super Furry Animals, System of a Down, but with Muse everything sounds like hard work and intense planning to me, there is no fun in it and I hear little that is organic either. I can live with flashy grandeur if it's tongue in cheek, that is why Queen never rubbed me the wrong way. But Muse are serious, solemn, somber ... Yes, you guessed it, Radiohead does nothing for me either, I'm a creep!!!

For the avoidance of doubt: I'm not saying that Muse's (and Radiohead's for that matter) music is not written, played and recorded with great craftsmanship. Just not very exciting to me.

I'm not sure if I could even find them now, but I've seen videos of them where they are joking around quite a bit, even when supposedly they're performing.  I'm not sure if they always do take themselves seriously.  Also, I believe in some cases they are paying homage to Queen and doing so deliberately at their own expense.  But the comparison to Radiohead has always been a problem.  They've never tried to compare themselves to Radiohead.  I think the two bands are very different.  I've never been able to relate to Radiohead's music at all.  I gave up after attempting to watch a complete concert on TV.  Just not my cup of tea I guess. 

With Muse I think it may also be helpful to experience them in a particular time frame.  In my case, I started listening to them in December 2004.  By December of 2005 I was in Ireland for a while and there again in 2006.  Over there the attitude toward Muse was much different than here.  People were certainly more aware of them and were listening to them a lot it seems.  To some extent, Muse never really has caught on completely in the U.S. and I don't expect they ever will.  I've noticed that Muse tends to be a polarizing band.  People like them or they don't.  There usually isn't an in between.  What I probably like about them the most is the melodic rock aspect of it all.  Supposedly, Hendrix was an inspiration for Muse, except maybe not for the bassist.  Hendrix himself spoke of the importance of the melodic.  He discussed it in a Boston interview and said that being around the British music scene helped him with this.  I think I may have mentioned this in another thread from long ago. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 01, 2021, 08:14:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXNpzem0eI4

I'm only attracted by the music. Have always greatly appreciated Led Zeppelin in case that has gone unnoticed here.

They don't show the guitarist enough in that video. HA HA! Just kidding...  8)

I really fell for Muse when Absolution was first released. I hadn't been that excited about a band in years. Funny enough, Radiohead never clicked with me, but I do tend to describe them as Radiohead meets Queen (who I love). I pretty much fell off after the 2nd Law. It turned into one of those things where they either sound like they're re-treading the past, or trying new things that just don't appeal to me. I bought Drones and saw the tour (always awesome live), but I haven't listened to that one probably since the year it came out. I did not buy Simulation Theory.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 01, 2021, 10:15:15 AM
I bought Simulation Theory finally.  It came out three years ago I think.  It's by far their worst album, but since I had all their albums up to that point, I decided to buy that one, too.  The CD is still in the mail.  When I get it, I guess I'll play it and see what happens, but I've already heard all the songs of course.  I really don't know what happened to them with that one.  I'm not sure if it had even one good song.  The Absolution album was the peak, but there were a few good ones after that, too. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2021, 10:07:35 PM
Lidija is a star in Croatia. I don't wonder why.

https://youtu.be/o4baAqaBUNQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 03, 2021, 09:54:46 AM
Thanks for keeping us abreast of musical developments in the Balkans, Dave. A voice big enough to fill a David Bowie T-shirt and then some, no less. (Actually, she has a very pleasant and good voice and who knows what wonders sun-bathed mediterranean organic growth may legitimately create, all that fresh fruit und vegetable must be good for something.)

That form of Balkan Pop with a tinge of Middle East melody thrown in has developed into a whole genre over the last 30 years or so. Of course, notable members of an English rock group have contributed ... - you know where everything ends.

https://youtu.be/B_purxqH_Nk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 03, 2021, 12:16:31 PM
Lidija is a star in Croatia. I don't wonder why.

https://youtu.be/o4baAqaBUNQ

Although visually distracted, I did notice that the bass player gets a beautiful sound in that video.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 03, 2021, 08:38:19 PM
Although visually distracted, I did notice that the bass player gets a beautiful sound in that video.

There was a bass player in that video?  :mrgreen:

Yeah, I did notice, excellent tone.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2021, 06:34:15 AM
"There was a bass player in that video?"

Yes, Dave, and he was working hard to get a grip on his part while you were - as usual - being easily distracted. With the performance being recorded and all, he sure didn't want his sound to go tits up. It's called priorities.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 04, 2021, 06:39:55 AM
For a second I thought the shirt said wowie, which would have been more appropriate considering I'm not hearing much influence from Bowie here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2021, 09:42:38 AM
In a way, the lack of any noticeable Bowie influence seems to protrude from the above performance, dispensing with any androgynous ambivalence as it does.

(https://static.billboard.com/files/media/angie-bowie-david-bowie-billboard-650-compressed.jpg)

Moreover, why any form of lettering on Lidija's T-shirt was deemed necessary fills one with wonder, given the palpable strength of the garment's tacit signal emission as worn. That said, awareness for the David Bowie brand was certainly heightened by her and may have well climbed new peaks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2021, 06:01:11 AM
Great track, I really dig the lead guitarist's style which combines (on this and other tracks) funk, psychedelia and rock/blues nicely. Great 'tache too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvZbmLJlSoM

Finally, some live footage from them has appeared, it shows that they weren't just a singles band, but a real force to be reckoned with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-fbVk9kvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMBjjal500
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 05, 2021, 07:59:36 AM
I'll nominate Blackfoot for a favorite band with native blood. Greg T Walker sporting some buckskins here I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ygJB9QGHM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 06, 2021, 06:35:32 AM
Oh my, Tom outs himself as a New Romantic/Electro Kid turned Proggie! ...

To me, Autograph sounded a bit like dumbed down Loverboy (if that's possible), which means they sure were mining deep!

All the later stage new wave/synthpop dudes were proggies.  Flock of Seagulls, Human League, the whole fricken lot.  No earlier stage New Wavers (i.e. punks, sometimes even with synths) wouldn't go near them.

Autograph is a funny parallel in that way, so dumbed down (unbelievably so as you say considering the source is hair metal to begin with), but even in the video you can see who the target demographic really is - those girls in the 'audience' are no hair metal chicks, but more conservatively (if fashionably for the time) dressed no longer young adults with jobs and starting to have and appreciate responsibility,  like proper jobs in an office, but still wanting to show they have a fun/wild side by listening to a band that has pointy guitars, long permed hair, tight leatherette pants and bandannas on their wrists, lamenting how they have to have respectable haircuts to keep those jobs, but secretly not missing the upkeep - back-combing was a pain.  It was similar with nerdier latter synthpop.  Only the goth ladies held steadfast; granted it may have been a bit easier for them to keep it real in the office, and every office has one, it's like a rule.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 06, 2021, 05:09:53 PM
Four old Brits and one Yank have obviously nothing better to do than use the lockdown to remote-record a few old chestnuts, this one a bit of psychedelia by LOVE. The Steve Morse and Don Airey solos are real crackers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHyRzHvqog

Here's the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFM-a5Xf1M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 07, 2021, 07:16:01 AM
Video says unavailable here, but here's one that worked for me. Nice cover! As a side note, for years I thought Alone Again Or was a UFO song.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6USjyJ56E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2021, 07:38:44 AM
"As a side note, for years I thought Alone Again Or was a UFO song.  ;D"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbNpIG8x_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PUEYYmZzG0

So did I! The Damned covering UFO,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYVDN27CrOo

why not, they shared a bassist (Paul Gray) for a while after all!  :mrgreen:

(http://www.rockometer.com/damned/grouplr.gif)

(https://iconicpix.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif)

(https://alchetron.com/cdn/tommy-mcclendon-8b074d8d-24dc-49da-b024-8cceedb8f02-resize-750.jpeg)

LOVE/Arthur Lee only came to my knowledge in the early noughties when British music mags rediscovered him  and LOVE after he had been doing time. I thus feel your embarrassment.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPLlxoT_as

LOVE's Forever Changes is a heck of an album. And that track has been covered so incredibly often ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6XUaBzgZ9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwAjQuMkqg


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 07, 2021, 10:30:53 PM
Posting Arthur Lee and Love without mentioning this?

Hard to believe it was a Burt Bacharach - Hal David composition. Burt reportedly didn't like this version.

https://youtu.be/ftO9ClIhFAo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 07, 2021, 10:32:59 PM
Dave Edmunds at an Elvis tribute in 1987.

https://youtu.be/MEEEMQU1Wbk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 10, 2021, 09:24:29 AM
Not a fan of her Rockabilly chic(k) look, but I do like her music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7deWpfw-sHg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 10, 2021, 04:24:39 PM
Friggin' classic. The song that always floors people who mainly think of "Paranoid" when Sabbath is mentioned ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eed4Rfu6Ug
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 14, 2021, 06:19:00 AM
And now in full studio glory, old men having a surprisingly virile go at things ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFiVyYto4c&t=16s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 14, 2021, 10:14:43 PM
Midnight Oil from 1994.  I think it may be illegal for a bass to sound this good in some parts of the world now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYqkLQYk9Eo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 15, 2021, 04:24:45 AM
Great band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 16, 2021, 09:36:25 AM
Yep.  Pretty cool that the  dude made the Aussie parliament.  Always liked this one a lot too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcxdbZ5chcc

edit:  heh, playing those back to back now... somehow never noticed before.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 17, 2021, 02:31:13 PM
Going through a Nils Lofgren phase currently. Always liked his singing and guitar playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cok4901DWqs

I understand that it pays the rent and that playing with the Boss is an honor, but essentially Lofgren's talents are wasted in the E-Street Band and and its stadium-tuned live performances. All the quirky subtleties in his playing are lost. Springsteen live is a sledgehammer affair.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2021, 01:04:58 PM
My completist urge was finally satisfied and I got Asia's '83 Budokan live recording ('enso kai') on CD (it was only released once, in 2001 by a small US label and only for a short while) - historically significant because Greg Lake had to step in for John Wetton whose alcoholism was on the rampage at that time.

It was always hard for someone else to sing those Wetton songs, but Greg Lake did an admirable job. And whoever mixed the CD  must have been a closet Greg Lake fan because you can even hear his pick hitting the strings of his Steinberger throughout. I first thought the CD had an issue, then "Who plays the percussion?" until I finally realized it was Greg's pick! Lovely. :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUot_QIHvM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 19, 2021, 06:59:31 AM
I don't think anyone else could have done as good a job as Lake did filling in for Wetton at literally the last minute. I'd always found them to be similar, but this concert really showed their differences. Wetton has a deceptively high range. The tone of his voice would suggest that he's closer to a baritone, but he is actually well into the tenor range. Lake chickens out on the high notes in the verses to Sole Survivor.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2021, 05:03:38 PM
Well observed, Wetton was higher in his range than one thinks and if anything sometimes a little sharp in his delivery, Lake with Asia was sometimes a little flat out of caution, nothing drastic, but you hear it after a while. Testosterone-charged as ELP were, they always made room for his vocals, he didn't really have to sing against ELP's sonic onslaught, a lot of his singing there took place in ballads or ballad'y parts (before all hell broke loose again). That wasn't the case with ASIA where he also had to manage singing over a guitar.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 19, 2021, 11:26:39 PM
https://youtu.be/5madtiLf7DI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2021, 09:55:44 AM
Sounds like he even rehearsed some with the band for this performance! Keith probably paid him for it.  :mrgreen:

Berry was an outstanding lyricist. His contribution to modern rock on that side is as great as his musical one.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 20, 2021, 08:38:37 PM
Sounds like he even rehearsed some with the band for this performance! Keith probably paid him for it.  :mrgreen:

Berry was an outstanding lyricist. His contribution to modern rock on that side is as great as his musical one.

It's from the documentary Hail, Hail Rock 'n' Roll, which included two 1986 concerts in St. Louis, so it was more controlled than a typical Chuck performance. There were a number of guest appearances.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 20, 2021, 08:40:59 PM
Like Nadine, another memory from my high school years.

https://youtu.be/Fw1KAlQSYjw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 21, 2021, 03:10:03 AM
Keith put the band together . Johnnie Johnson became well known after playing the show , although he had been playing with Berry since 1952 . Joey Spampinato from NRBQ on bass . One of the better known Dano players . Berry’s vocals were all over dubbed on the film .
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 21, 2021, 07:50:52 AM
Like Nadine, another memory from my high school years.
https://youtu.be/Fw1KAlQSYjw

Love this song.  The Stones did give it a bit more swing, but it also proves the point that Macca was right: they are a blues cover band (I mean the hole dang first record, but that was normalish for the time).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
I too heard the Stones version first. That whole Stones debut album was actually quite good and has aged well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VU6BY4xSY

Yes, they were a blues cover band, but with a style of their own. Jagger didn't sound white, yet he didn't really ape black singers either.

There was only one self-penned song on that debut, but I thought that great as well, very catchy. It was basically a doo-wop pastiche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F21m0R8zE1A

Re Rufus, a black artist with a white backing band, was that a usual sight in 1964, Dave? Or was that the house band of the show that simply backed everybody?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 21, 2021, 11:26:40 AM
The first time I heard that song was on the first Aerosmith album.

https://youtu.be/iLDXEwTYucc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 21, 2021, 01:27:38 PM
Rufus Thomas recorded on Sun records way back in the fifties. That label had a few white guys on the roster you may have heard of too.
Too bad Aerosmith or the Stones didn't keep making Rufus Thomas covers. Would be fun to hear them take on Funky Chicken or The Breakdown.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCETrCdByk4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 21, 2021, 01:49:12 PM
I'd never heard the Aerosmith version before.  Bit too cockrock for my tastes (that doesn't even sound like Steve Tyler so much but their earlier stuff is like that - before he discovered his distinctive screech).  Odd because I had some superfan friends in HS.

Speaking of Bear Cats, one of those superfans loved this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19MzIQ5OhA

Drove me mental with how often she'd play it.  But that somehow brings my brain to George Thorogood, who I always enjoyed as an acceptable respite from everything else being played on cottage country and various Dads' garage radios; a rootsier less crazy Nugent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--AvCsh48bk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2021, 02:30:15 PM
Aerosmith turned it into a rock number. Nothing wrong with that, it is what they set out (and were paid) to do. I still love Tyler's comment re the "Rolling Stones copycats" allegations against Aerosmith in the 70ies: "We never copied the Stones, we both just stole from the same people!" Priceless. 8) BTW, here's your 'screech', Jake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLVrd-TDZw

Say what you will about Aerosmith, one thing they never ever lacked: groove (among white hard rock bands they are way up there as regards that). Also a testament why I prefer Brad Whitford's solos to Joe Perry's.

For more traditional-minded folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJHnTcSEbA

This is nicely groovy unless you hate the Tower of Power treatment they gave it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqLWbRNSXo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on October 21, 2021, 02:42:52 PM
Midnight Oil from 1994.  I think it may be illegal for a bass to sound this good in some parts of the world now.

I saw them sometime in the mid-90s and they were one of the best live bands I've seen. Never huge here in the states sadly.

I always loved the hooks in this one.... and never saw Bones Hillman playing a T-bird!
(EDIT: I thought maybe it was a greco but maybe not??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeIJo_qiJDg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2021, 02:47:09 PM
That song does have cool harmony changes too - indeed!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 21, 2021, 04:45:35 PM
Aerosmith turned it into a rock number. Nothing wrong with that, it is what they set out (and were paid) to do. I still love Tyler's comment re the "Rolling Stones copycats" allegations against Aerosmith in the 70ies: "We never copied the Stones, we both just stole from the same people!" Priceless. 8) BTW, here's your 'screech', Jake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLVrd-TDZw

Say what you will about Aerosmith, one thing they never ever lacked: groove (among white hard rock bands they are way up there as regards that). Also a testament why I prefer Brad Whitford's solos to Joe Perry's.

For more traditional-minded folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJHnTcSEbA

This is nicely groovy unless you hate the Tower of Power treatment they gave it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqLWbRNSXo

LOL, I don't not like it because they rocked it up, I just don't like the treatment.  That later live version is better (Tyler backs off the screech a bit - probably has to due to it being lower, but yeah, it's there) but still not gonna be my favorite version. 

Love that quote though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 21, 2021, 04:52:54 PM
I saw them sometime in the mid-90s and they were one of the best live bands I've seen. Never huge here in the states sadly.

I always loved the hooks in this one.... and never saw Bones Hillman playing a T-bird!
(EDIT: I thought maybe it was a greco but maybe not??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeIJo_qiJDg

In this article from an Australian magazine, it mentions that Bones Hillman sometimes switched from his usual P bass to a Thunderbird.  That's why it can get a little confusing.  Because if you look up their videos, most of the time he is playing a Fender.  Scroll to the section "Underwater - Breathe" 1996.

https://mixdownmag.com.au/features/seven-of-bones-hillmans-best-bass-moments-with-midnight-oil/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 22, 2021, 12:45:31 AM

Re Rufus, a black artist with a white backing band, was that a usual sight in 1964, Dave? Or was that the house band of the show that simply backed everybody?

I don't know about that show, pretty sure they were Brit musicians, but Rufus was recording for Stax in those years, and the Stax house band was the mixed race Booker T & the MGs. That was unusual at the time.

Sam Phillips recorded Rufus even before founding Sun. This was recorded in Memphis by Sam Phillips in 1950.

I saw a documentary on Sam and Sun, Rufus was critical of Sam.

https://youtu.be/WZpOesKaVWU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 22, 2021, 06:25:53 AM
Rufus Thomas's career spaned an incredibly large cross section of the American musical evolution. I feel Carla Thomas, his daughter should be mentioned as well. She also had some significant output with Stax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTzvfVSHHpg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2021, 07:00:26 AM
Sam Phillips recorded Rufus even before founding Sun. This was recorded in Memphis by Sam Phillips in 1950.

https://youtu.be/WZpOesKaVWU

That sounds astoundingly jazzy still, like from another time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 22, 2021, 08:35:01 PM
That sounds astoundingly jazzy still, like from another time.

It was from another time! That sound was heavily influenced by the popularity of Louis Jordan.

https://youtu.be/DNObm1y7dsA

https://youtu.be/PR6pHtiNT_k

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 23, 2021, 05:58:23 AM
Jump and swing !
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 24, 2021, 11:23:57 PM
https://youtu.be/WpudjdKJujQ

https://youtu.be/-NSQI51dppg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2021, 05:38:11 AM
It was from another time! That sound was heavily influenced by the popularity of Louis Jordan.

https://youtu.be/PR6pHtiNT_k

"Caldonioa" is already very much on the way to rock'n'roll for me, that sax sounds like a blueprint to Bill Haley & The Comets. Likewise the Wilbert Harrison Stuff (but that was also already ten years later). The Rufus Thomas track from 1950 has much more demanding jazz melodies and harmonies.

But thanks for this, Dave, I live and learn from you. I always thought Bryan Ferry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9EbR0ckb40

had covered a Canned Heat song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXo6G5mfmro

and changed the lyrics a little. Now I know that Ferry was closer to the early 60ies original than Canned Heat ever where! Which in hindsight is perhaps of little wonder, because Ferry is a connaisseur of that whole 1920-1950 era of US melting pot Jazz-, Blues- and Big Band-era influenced dance music. [BTW, the greatest and most enduring cultural gift of the US to the rest of the world, and I write that in admiration. Danke for winning WWII and bringing your wonderful music all across the planet!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VumUtw3IIec

He's even recorded Roxy Music chestnuts in that style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9jRGV4dqY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2021, 06:16:14 AM
Wasn't Rufus a DJ in Memphis?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2021, 08:28:12 AM
When DC made adult music for once, had his proper hair color back and tried to - albeit futilely - escape the Whitesnake albatross around his neck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwLiN3YHV_8&list=RDI19pGETsIKY&index=2

I can never understand why a man with a lovely natural baritone such as this would want to scream his balls off in an effort to emulate Robert Plant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJk38e0BaMo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 25, 2021, 09:05:04 AM
"Caldonioa" is already very much on the way to rock'n'roll for me, that sax sounds like a blueprint to Bill Haley & The Comets. Likewise the Wilbert Harrison Stuff (but that was also already ten years later). The Rufus Thomas track from 1950 has much more demanding jazz melodies and harmonies.

But thanks for this, Dave, I live and learn from you. I always thought Bryan Ferry

...

had covered a Canned Heat song

...
and changed the lyrics a little. Now I know that Ferry was closer to the early 60ies original than Canned Heat ever where! Which in hindsight is perhaps of little wonder, because Ferry is a connaisseur of that whole 1920-1950 era of US melting pot Jazz-, Blues- and Big Band-era influenced dance music. [BTW, the greatest and most enduring cultural gift of the US to the rest of the world, and I write that in admiration. Danke for winning WWII and bringing your wonderful music all across the planet!]

...

Let's Stick Together was Wilbert's original take. He later rewrote it to Let's Work Together. Canned Heat's cover was closer to that.

https://youtu.be/kYWiUErA9Kw


Wasn't Rufus a DJ in Memphis?

Yes, all during his recording career.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 25, 2021, 09:14:29 AM
Poultry in motion.

https://youtu.be/4hH77m_rZdA

https://youtu.be/8lCI63H1neY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2021, 10:31:26 AM
Poultry in motion.

Ouch!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


https://youtu.be/8lCI63H1neY

Talk about an audience reaction! Looks like an open air broadcast of Soul Train. With lots of Angela Davis'ses in the crowd.  8)

Let's Stick Together was Wilbert's original take. He later rewrote it to Let's Work Together. Canned Heat's cover was closer to that.

You're very educational today, Dave,  :-* :-* :-*, dancing Black Panthers aside, my rock trivia knowledge is developing in leaps and bounds! I always thought that horn arrangement on Bryan Ferry's version - slightly sour as it sounds in a Roxy Music way - was Ferry's idea. And I always wondered why he changed "work" to "stick" in the title. Now I know that both he and Canned Heat covered the same song, albeit in different stages of development.

And then there is this, where roads don't end in Purple, they do so in Quo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHeI_er6gCU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2021, 01:37:34 PM
Ample proof how a - at the time: a little chubby - Herr Bolan and T. Rex were not just a pop band, but also a rock band (and punk progenitors). Who says the drugs don't work?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9lhh66KmM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2021, 08:47:52 PM
And now for something completely different ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OX2nelvhIE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 26, 2021, 08:26:22 AM
Ample proof how a - at the time: a little chubby - Herr Bolan and T. Rex were not just a pop band, but also a rock band (and punk progenitors). Who says the drugs don't work?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9lhh66KmM
   


 I'm always glad I got to see Marc and T. Rex here in Seattle........My youth was not entirely misspent. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 26, 2021, 09:58:45 AM
And now for something completely different ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OX2nelvhIE

Well thanks for that!  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 26, 2021, 11:05:21 AM
Ample proof how a - at the time: a little chubby - Herr Bolan and T. Rex were not just a pop band, but also a rock band (and punk progenitors). Who says the drugs don't work?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9lhh66KmM

well, you can tell that's actually live.  I'll have what the backup singers (and soundman) are having.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 07, 2021, 08:30:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfNINPcjU8

wonder if Mr. Scribbleface might be a certain mr H from Frankfurt? ... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 15, 2021, 04:05:13 AM
Yesterday I ran across a channel on YouTube at random.  It was a young drummer's channel consisting of her playing the drums to quite a variety of songs.  She was really good.  In one video, she referred to playing with her girls.  I assumed she must be in some local cover band.  As it turns out, she is in a band I had never heard of called Plush.  They are currently on tour opening for Evanescence and Halestorm.  The first video is their first single that came out over the summer.  The second video is the drummer (Brooke Colucci) doing a drum playthrough of their second single.  The third video is an Alice in Chains cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jx1cpNY6v0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dAhCJF5cgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsY6N3IfprI

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 16, 2021, 06:28:07 PM
She sounds a bit like Ann Wilson from Heart - and I don't mean that negatively.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 16, 2021, 08:32:15 PM
She sounds a bit like Ann Wilson from Heart - and I don't mean that negatively.

I looked up the lead singer/rhythm guitarist's background.  She was on "The Voice" in 2017 and got kicked off.  She did at least one Heart song on there, but it must not have gone over well.  She tried a solo career, but didn't like it.  Her goal was to be in a band.  She and the drummer live in NYC, found the bassist in that area and recruited the lead guitarist from Maine.  If anyone wants a career, it's easy.  Get on "The Voice,", get voted off and form a band.  Then start opening for people like Wolfgang van Halen, Evanescence, Halestorm, Slash and Myles Kennedy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUcPZoYyA4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 17, 2021, 08:55:40 AM
If anyone wants a career, it's easy.  Get on "The Voice,", get voted off and form a band.  Then start opening for people like Wolfgang van Halen, Evanescence, Halestorm, Slash and Myles Kennedy.

Now you tell me!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 17, 2021, 09:43:05 AM
Young Albert smokin'

https://youtu.be/EA8VIQhG_QE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 17, 2021, 10:28:04 AM
Old Albert Lee puffin' - with some upstart kid from a band I've never even heard about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSSH_Y1BIKo

And all classical with some B3 player and an orchestra ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFgUyuk1w18


There is no escape, Dave.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 17, 2021, 11:10:50 AM
Now you tell me!  ;D

Always glad to give career advice, since my own success has been so overwhelming.   ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 17, 2021, 09:41:30 PM
...

There is no escape, Dave.

What's your point? That he played with Glover? We know Albert has played with many talented people, and I imagine most of them were excited to play with him.

Also, why didn't you point out that Head Hands & Feet bassist Chas Hodges played with Blackmore once, substituting for Glover? You're slipping!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 17, 2021, 11:26:46 PM
What's your point? That he played with Glover? We know Albert has played with many talented people, and I imagine most of them were excited to play with him.

Also, why didn't you point out that Head Hands & Feet bassist Chas Hodges played with Blackmore once, substituting for Glover? You're slipping!

He also failed to note that Mike Suppa, who is the father of the bassist in the band (Plush) that I've been posting about, has jammed with Roger Glover, Steve Morse, and Ian Paice.  If all roads lead to Deep Purple, anything of relevance should at least by mentioned once.  I'm not sure if this would be considered slipping, but it might be considered a slight lack of diligence. 

http://www.mikesuppa.com/bio.html. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2021, 10:51:42 AM
Now you've made me feel guilty!

(https://img.fotocommunity.com/1-23-ich-komme-58b8c6be-00b2-4c8d-b699-2bc60b618b96.jpg?width=1000)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 18, 2021, 11:16:34 AM
Try to bear up.  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2021, 05:07:31 PM
Fur what it's worth: I'll try!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2021, 12:58:22 AM
Famous Ricky Skaggs video of Country Boy featuring Bill Monroe as his Uncle Pen, and with a cameo by Mayor Ed Koch.

In real life, Monroe learned to play from his uncle, Pen Vandiver.

https://youtu.be/l_QheuTi8Q8


And of course...

https://youtu.be/502ZjHWBVUk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 19, 2021, 02:10:00 AM
I never caught all the details, but I had some relatives who went to some event several years ago where Ricky Skaggs was playing.  Somehow they got into a conversation with him and said he was very nice.  They were impressed, especially one of my cousins.  A distant cousin.  I usually don't see her much.  But she sure wanted to talk about Ricky Skaggs.  Actually, it made me want to meet him, too, though. 
I haven't had many encounters with celebrities, but the ones I've had were not really too great.  I think whoever said don't meet your heroes in real life may have had a point,. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on November 20, 2021, 08:46:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWRjus3end4

Little Willie John . Early riff based R&B , James Brown would eventually turn it into funk .
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Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2021, 01:02:52 AM
It's too bad that Little Willie John is almost forgotten today.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 21, 2021, 01:19:19 PM
From Gregg Allman's final album (Southern Blood.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFoMG9PHh4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 21, 2021, 01:33:57 PM
It's too bad that Little Willie John is almost forgotten today.

You insult me, Dave! I haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdm1zvXBgVQ

That Whitesnake cover is by now older than Willie's original was when Coverdale and Lord recorded their take in that chapel in 1983! Gulp. Whitesnake relegated it to being a B side for a single (which went nowhere) in 1984,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WnEEgCJmA

they shouldn't have, I'll never understand why. I think it could have been a hit again, in all its organ sparseness, yet glory (or could at least fitted on a soundtrack of a romantic movie). It's one of the all time great Coverdale vocal performances. When it came out, it was the first time I read the name Little Willie John as the writer's credit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2021, 12:48:40 AM
Deep into one of my playlists. Several bands by this name, but these Wanna-Bees were from Finland and recorded this for Pravda Records out of Chicago in the mid 90s.

Move over, Mouth & Macneal  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/H75l8sQtJLs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2021, 06:54:16 AM
 :mrgreen: Lovely version of a lovely song. I wouldn't tell Mouth & MacNeal to move over, but the Fins can move in with them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on November 23, 2021, 07:46:20 AM
On a Saturday Night . Classic stuff from Stax .

… and still sounds gorgeous to me .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXOffwebb0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2021, 08:41:38 AM
Speaking of Saturday Night songs, I always found Karla DeVito's version of this John Fogerty composition infectious and elevating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPrwG8PzgeA


And speaking of Meatloaf girls in general, I liked her predecessor(ess) too ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqT3YFz0FRE
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Post by: uwe on November 23, 2021, 09:32:44 AM
Brits (and one Yank) doing something lighthearted - with a priceless seven-note musical moment at 1:26 plus a hilariously Purple history checking cartoon vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGft-VgIsg

I like it when Gillan does 50ies/early 60ies rock'n'roll. He has the voice for it. Unlike most other white hard rock singers that usually have a strong blues influence, he's always had that rock'n'roll crooner tone in him. Being an avid Elvis/Little Richard fan left undoubtedly a mark (brilliant "stuck record groove" part at 1:42 to 2:00!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfzhtPx32wQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 24, 2021, 05:56:33 PM
https://youtu.be/0DcV1UI1B6M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2021, 04:27:52 AM
L-l-lovely and f-f-fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlaJY1k0dd8&list=RDDlaJY1k0dd8
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Post by: Basvarken on November 26, 2021, 12:40:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfNINPcjU8

wonder if Mr. Scribbleface might be a certain mr H from Frankfurt? ... :mrgreen:

(O) well…
Are you?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on November 27, 2021, 11:33:46 AM
A friend mentioned this as being a great Bass VI song , hadn’t listened to it in ages . Not the greatest song , but some lovely layered guitar playing .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXA_OutZAM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 29, 2021, 03:46:00 PM
(furtively) But is it country, Dave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjXM6x_0KZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRodNrrkQc0

(BTW, that's Roger Glover singing the first verse before Ian Gillan joins in.)

We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannonballs 'n' powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind


Ouch. Now that does sound like animals were hurt in the making of this song. 8)

To my eternal shame, I only knew this song until recently in this scarcely rewritten, drastic rip-off version of the Les Humphries Singers. Les Humphries  (the guy in the suit, mastermind/svengali of the vocal group and an ex-"British Army stationed in Germany" grunt) used a then-loophole in German royalties law according to which you got 50% if you rewrote the lyric, be it in German or English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKrCmj22XUo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 29, 2021, 10:45:25 PM
(furtively) But is it country, Dave?


Second video is unavailable here.

Quote

Oh, too bad, it was Deep Purple's cover of it. They in turn knew it from Lonnie Donegan who had made it popular in the UK in the late 50ies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojqS7nWWyXw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 30, 2021, 07:51:11 AM
Ooops, Dave, sorry, I accidentally messed up your posting - I modified rather than quoted. Forgive me, please reinstate yours.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3217/2980313434_5fb1029d05_n.jpg)
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Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2021, 11:44:16 AM
I have no way of doing that.

It's a folk song written by folk composer/singer Jimmy Driftwood (https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/jimmy-driftwood-2187/) who had a long career promoting folk music in Arkansas.

Here's his original recording.

https://youtu.be/qTfAidqlFV4

Here's the old fiddle tune it was based on.

https://youtu.be/EoQElZPsOsw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 30, 2021, 01:34:52 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Yamen-sitzung.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2021, 05:17:36 PM
Jimmy playing his guitar, filmed in 1988.

I count parts of three songs in this medley.

https://youtu.be/y1BiPbxX1YU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 01, 2021, 08:18:58 AM
Jimmy playing his guitar, filmed in 1988.

I count parts of three songs in this medley.

https://youtu.be/y1BiPbxX1YU

Enjoyed that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 01, 2021, 10:41:02 AM
Old man shredding!
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Post by: 4stringer77 on December 01, 2021, 12:12:33 PM
Clawhammer guitar. Didn't know that was a thing. I dig it.
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Post by: Rob on December 01, 2021, 04:18:55 PM
Clawhammer guitar. Didn't know that was a thing. I dig it.
Me2 that was refreshing.
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Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2021, 10:32:34 PM
It's not clawhammer, where the melody is plucked with the thumb. It's somewhat like Maybelle Carter's thumb technique plus fingers picking the melody.

As long as we're on the subject, here's my favorite of his compositions, although covers by Eddy Arnold and Doc Watson are probably better known.

https://youtu.be/4TJjFEGNKlk



And here's an entertaining video (recently uploaded) where he explains the Driftwood name.

https://youtu.be/Z4KybdpaIGs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 02, 2021, 06:21:50 AM
Now this is a case where for once all roads did not just lead to Deep Purple, but rather where all things were spawned by Deep Purple - the circle of existence.  :rimshot:

Can this be viewed now in the US of A, the Driftwood composition is at 30:40? You guys have no idea whatcha missin'!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyyH6aUqQk0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 02, 2021, 08:24:15 AM
Yes, I can see it here. Jimmy is rolling in his grave.  ;D

It's the latest entry in SecondHandSongs (https://secondhandsongs.com/work/52451/versions) list of covers of the song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 02, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Yes, I can see it here. Jimmy is rolling in his grave.  ;D

No worries, they'll make honorary room for him here ...

(https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/7db8d55c263844ad89dbca0fd58f60fa.jpg#7db8d55c263844ad89dbca0fd58f60fa)

... or here!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Z2ZkuTwWU1hvzBSnXSeCjGXCd30jAallr1_0qbaT_okmeZAqHQIGQSwoRMdm_T60TYW7Q9qjDXBhUeXBWObBcrSecNEboJAfPWUAM2zPGhV9_Kv2)
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Post by: Basvarken on December 02, 2021, 09:43:07 AM
there's one bottom missing...
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Post by: ilan on December 02, 2021, 11:49:52 AM
This is the sad truth about me. Spotify doesn't lie.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFjgTvAXwAEwxWI?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 04, 2021, 08:40:37 PM
https://youtu.be/jf2VErVh4CQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2021, 09:00:14 AM
I hate to say it, but Dee - never the most pitch-sharp vocalist - sounds a little flat on this. Mariah would probably do a better job performing great parts of the Twisted Sister oeuvre.

Also, has anybody noticed that Dave's ubiquitous hair metal-related postings here tend to involve Dee Snider in some shape of form in nine out of ten cases? He's always had it in him. I see a closet-Twisted Sister fan lurking among us. SMF!!!

I still think Dee did his best work with these guys here, a super group of sorts that somehow fell thru all the cracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PiFbLaL2ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPs8VmrFONU
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Post by: Basvarken on December 06, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
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super group of sorts?
Wouldn't that require all four members to be "super"?
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Post by: uwe on December 06, 2021, 02:49:33 PM
Ok, 3/4 super group then, you nitpicker!  :P

Different (returning) topic: Based on Dave's comments on Little Willie John above, I bought a double CD ("Sleep", but the music is all very lively!) of his work between 1955 and 1961 and only now realize what I missed. Amazing range, versatile voice, whether crooning soul or rocking out, good quality recordings for the time. I had no idea he died so young (30) in prison serving a manslaughter sentence. Dying of 'pneumonia' in confinement always makes you wonder. Tragic.

(https://michiganrockandrolllegends.com/images/Willie%20JPEG%20and%20family%202.jpg)

https://www.kimfield.com/blog/2018/11/15/fever-and-fate

But luckily not entirely forgotten, Dave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw9r6Q_Nt4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeOK5eRNF-Q

I also had no idea he sang the original of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93QBpOutYaM
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Post by: Basvarken on December 06, 2021, 03:18:01 PM
Make that 1/2 and we have a deal 😂
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 06, 2021, 03:21:25 PM
I don't recall posting anything else by Twisted Sister. If I did, it's just coincidence. Dee? Maybe I pointed out that nobody has ever seen him and Sarah Jessica Parker in the same room at the same time.  ;D
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Post by: uwe on December 06, 2021, 03:25:32 PM
"Make that 1/2 and we have a deal 😂"

That unabashed mercantilism in you horrifies me!

Darn holländischer Kaufmann ... I guess for a dry Maidenholic like you, Dee and Clive Burr are the "stars", right?  :mrgreen:

How unfair to Bernie! There were technically more proficient lead guitarists around, but I liked his wild abandon on the instrument (as if Hendrix had turned punk) and the way he looked as if he had just walked out of the dressing room of Adam & The Ants!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnLi9E5Z4p8

For the record: I liked Clive Burr's drumming with Maiden too. That was lively as well  and he always looked like he was having fun doing it.

Gillan (the band) were rough around the edges, but had charm and grit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHgUsMXOHH4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2021, 04:15:18 PM
I don't recall posting anything else by Twisted Sister. If I did, it's just coincidence. Dee? Maybe I pointed out that nobody has ever seen him and Sarah Jessica Parker in the same room at the same time.  ;D

Sarah's make-up is applied more sparingly. Dee had a tendency to look a bit unnatural.
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Post by: westen44 on December 06, 2021, 11:11:46 PM
Sarah's make-up is applied more sparingly. Dee had a tendency to look a bit unnatural.

Very unnatural, IMO.  However, I would rather not be too harsh on him. 
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Post by: Basvarken on December 07, 2021, 12:20:29 AM
I guess for a dry Maidenholic like you, Dee and Clive Burr are the "stars", right?  :mrgreen:

I was more thinking of Tormé and Burr.
Dee Snider is not supergroup material by a stretch.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2021, 05:49:05 AM
He's a New York loudmouth with a brain, I'll give him that. I saw Twisted Sister on the Come Out And Play tour. They were entertaining enough, Snider's stage raps are funny and never as inane as, say, Nugent's, but I wouldn't call it musical high art. One thing you could say about him was that Dee sure knew how to "work" an audience and pull them over.

With Twisted Sister there was always a disparity between the very loud image and the kind of stodgy pop hard rock they played. Bernie Tormé by himself had more unbridled ecstasy and an almost New-York-Doll'esque swagger in his playing than Snider's men put together.
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Post by: Basvarken on December 07, 2021, 06:09:27 AM
I've always found Twisted Sister extremely stupid. The image, the songs, the lyrics, the artwork et cetera
But that's just me   :-X

The finesse of Bernie Tormé and Clive Burr were like pearls to the swine. :mrgreen:
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Post by: TBird1958 on December 07, 2021, 10:00:09 AM
Sarah's make-up is applied more sparingly. Dee had a tendency to look a bit unnatural.


 I think he used a trowel......This Gurl knows!  :-*
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Post by: gearHed289 on December 07, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
I've always found Twisted Sister extremely stupid. The image, the songs, the lyrics, the artwork et cetera
But that's just me   :-X

No, it's not.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2021, 10:58:10 AM
Ok, Dave, no more Dee Snider- and Twisted f***ing Sister-related posts here then. Sorry about that.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 08, 2021, 12:12:02 AM
Look what I started, innocently!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 08, 2021, 05:18:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFiNe2kK914
Never heard or heard of this 80s Seattle band before yesterday. I like this song. Most of their few other surviving recordings that I've heard are much faster punkier numbers.
Tina Bell seems like she could've been a rock star contender. Too bad they didn't get farther.
Reading about them, so far I've gleaned that whether or not they "invented grunge" as a few have gone so far as to claim, they were at least important in the history of it. Matt Cameron made his drumming debut in this band a few years before he joined Soundgarden and later Pearl Jam. Apparently they were much admired by local younger musicians who went on to be rather more famous (I've read both that Ccobain roadied for them and that the Melvins opened for them).

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 09, 2021, 12:36:41 AM
Speaking of Seattle bands you probably never heard of, here's John Ramberg's Stumpy Joe, early 90s, from their only album.

https://youtu.be/N4jkXX4aD88
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 09, 2021, 07:52:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFiNe2kK914
Never heard or heard of this 80s Seattle band before yesterday. I like this song. Most of their few other surviving recordings that I've heard are much faster punkier numbers.
Tina Bell seems like she could've been a rock star contender. Too bad they didn't get farther.
Reading about them, so far I've gleaned that whether or not they "invented grunge" as a few have gone so far as to claim, they were at least important in the history of it. Matt Cameron made his drumming debut in this band a few years before he joined Soundgarden and later Pearl Jam. Apparently they were much admired by local younger musicians who went on to be rather more famous (I've read both that Ccobain roadied for them and that the Melvins opened for them).

I guess I'd have to hear more of their music, but I don't hear any grunge in this at all. Very 80s (which I like). If the stuff out of 90s Seattle sounded more like this, I might have been more interested.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 09, 2021, 08:36:35 AM
Jocelyn and Chris, brother and sister band from New York.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQEWhIKi5Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 09, 2021, 10:14:36 AM
I guess I'd have to hear more of their music, but I don't hear any grunge in this at all. Very 80s (which I like). If the stuff out of 90s Seattle sounded more like this, I might have been more interested.
Fair enough. It's a bit difficult to pin down anyway as I've always found "grunge" to be ill-defined, as it somehow encompassed all of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Melvins, Mudhoney, and Soundgarden. I guess one thing they mostly have in common is taking a punk-inspired ethic and slowing it down to sludgier tempos. 70s-heavy-rock-inspired riffs are common but not all of them have that either.

All that said, the slow heaviness of this one seems a bit grungey to me:
https://open.spotify.com/track/7iZcO3nZZfx32MgT3Emy5W?si=445e9ac3ef624b13

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Post by: uwe on December 10, 2021, 06:44:08 PM
100% grunge-free, not overdressed and anyway it's the season. Back when keyboard gods and their tiny set-ups still had abs not apps ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb94sdt7xVw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
"It's a bit difficult to pin down anyway as I've always found "grunge" to be ill-defined, as it somehow encompassed all of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Melvins, Mudhoney, and Soundgarden."

Not to forget: A grainy, low-fi production sound.  :popcorn: We wouldn't want to sound like we recorded this in a state of the art studio now, would we?

And dropped-D tuning of course. What horror if the E string had the correct tension!  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 10, 2021, 07:10:09 PM
Tis the season....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892Xpkb5-KU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2021, 09:10:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a5fHMlb4V0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2021, 09:18:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDuQ0_Fqxg8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 10, 2021, 11:11:04 PM
https://youtu.be/jU6T3qRNk0g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2021, 11:54:45 PM
From the 1966 movie The Ghost Goes Gear. The Oscar nominating committee must have missed this one.

https://youtu.be/4xPze3VGZIg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 13, 2021, 03:58:09 PM
"It's a bit difficult to pin down anyway as I've always found "grunge" to be ill-defined, as it somehow encompassed all of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Melvins, Mudhoney, and Soundgarden."

Not to forget: A grainy, low-fi production sound.  :popcorn: We wouldn't want to sound like we recorded this in a state of the art studio now, would we?

And dropped-D tuning of course. What horror if the E string had the correct tension!  :mrgreen:

Okay, I know you're taking the piss, but I can't help it :D ...  Certainly there was a fair amount of drop-D going on at the time, but most of the big Nirvana singles were standard tuning.
"Jeremy" and "Alive" are standard tuning.

And few of the major-label "grunge" releases ("Nevermind", "Superunknown", "Ten" et al) sound at all low-fi to me.
Earlier records released on Sub Pop et al, sure - but that's because they were low budget indie records, and comparatively few people actually heard those.

Once they actually had budgets to work with, probably the one major outlier is "In Utero" where Nirvana hired Albini to deliberately make their second major-label record sound as un-radio-friendly as they could.

I think Wikipedia hit on a common thread though:
"Lyrics are typically angst-filled and introspective, often addressing themes such as social alienation, self-doubt, abuse, neglect, betrayal, social and emotional isolation, psychological trauma and a desire for freedom."  Take away the gadgets and NiN could've been Grunge :D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2021, 08:59:54 PM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: How you know me Jake!

But I forgot one other trait: An utter disregard for Western Civilization's theory of harmony - with Soundgarden and Nirvana being the worst culprits. All grunge musicians should have taken compulsory music theory seminars with Brian Wilson. You know, you can be depressive AND STILL KNOW YOUR CIRCLE OF FIFTHS! :mrgreen:

Together with the consciously fuzzy and hazy production values (plus the reintroduction of vocal microphone sounds we had believed to have left behind in the 50ies), that aspect of grunge bugged me the most. A lot of it sounded like a beginner band with bad ears in a rehearsal space attempting their own songwriting. Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun gives me shivers to this day - and not of the good type. I find those chord changes unpleasant, harsh, wanton and disharmonious. I remember listening to the Nirvana debut in the car of my then-bandmate/guitarist from start to finish, being (unlike him) unimpressed and thinking to myself: "They're playing all these wrong chords, why did no one iron that out?"  ;D

You Yanks (and further up North) are so good at being harmonic, don't deny what you are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2NHZukTYg

I never had issues with the grunge lyrics though, I like it dark!

(https://c.tenor.com/B0nUJSyUERsAAAAC/nosterafu-peak.gif)

Oh yeah, the keyboard playing of all those bands was excellent too. Another step back.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 14, 2021, 12:29:15 AM
Mickey and Peter

Posted in 2015

https://youtu.be/boHdMaV4s0U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 14, 2021, 01:24:39 AM
I'm not Jake!
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Post by: uwe on December 14, 2021, 05:28:19 AM
LOL, no you're not, but you're close, you defended Grunge!  :rimshot:

Sin-cerest 'pologies!!!  :-[ I'll listen to some Soundgarden chord changes for ultimate penance. Alas!, that purifying and cleansing Seattle sound sonic chain cilice!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQw7Lh-uv3Vg1vhlaw-4aYuG2Q6h7xB0BsjFA&usqp=CAU)

PS: But out of sheer historic interest, I've just ordered the new remaster of the Nirvana debut to give it another try 30 years later. But like with that other supposedly iconic album - The Sex Pistols' Never Mind The Bollocks -  which I dig our every decade or two, I have a hunch that I will continue to shake my head. But it's at least good for the Cobain Estate.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on December 14, 2021, 04:40:04 PM


 Seattle was so fun in the '90s...........

https://youtu.be/5UdUBH9cJx4

https://youtu.be/OFK3PMkJRGs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 15, 2021, 09:12:40 PM
https://youtu.be/Jot4tQdxixY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 16, 2021, 05:34:42 AM
Sounds like a Cure song now!  :mrgreen:

I've seen these guys and gals live, they're an absolute hoot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLgJ7pk0X-s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 16, 2021, 10:58:12 PM
Live At Donington Castle.
Jack Bruce comes in around the 30 minute mark.  Then many others play for a while.  Jack comes back and plays quite a lot toward the latter part. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6dOvWNwlZM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 16, 2021, 11:21:05 PM
Jack always sounded like Jack, whether fretted or fretless, Warwick or Gibson.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2021, 02:12:17 AM
Jack always sounded like Jack, whether fretted or fretless, Warwick or Gibson.

That's true.  BTW, I didn't even know about that video until recently.  From time to time things like this appear unexpectedly. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2021, 04:50:05 AM
That performance has gone down in history as living proof that a fretless bass as played by Jack AND a Sky Guitar as played by Uli (which has more frets than a regular guitar with the fret distance in the high register becoming so narrow that only fretting pressure on and bending of the strings ultimately define the note played) are a risky combination. If Jack is just a little low and Uli is just a little high, they're together both way off which is why it all sounds a little sour!

Uli is an artist, but that violin effect of his Sky Guitar can get tiresome. You sometimes feel inclined to take it off his hands and hand him his old Strat or Firebird which he still played with the Scorpions. IMHO, his lead guitar playing there surpassed both his predecessor's (Michael Schenker) and his successor's (Matthias Jabs).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-Mly7seMU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2021, 05:05:10 AM
For those who missed the DP connection, that's Don Airey on keyboards!

Just sayin'.   :-X

PS: And both Roth's and (Michael) Schenker's names were traded at one point as possible successors to Ritchie Blackmore within DP.  That Germanic streak in Deep Purple ...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 17, 2021, 10:46:30 AM
Jack always sounded like Jack, whether fretted or fretless, Warwick or Gibson.

I think that's true for most of us.  I know it is for me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2021, 11:08:01 AM
That performance has gone down in history as living proof that a fretless bass as played by Jack AND a Sky Guitar as played by Uli (which has more frets than a regular guitar with the fret distance in the high register becoming so narrow that only fretting pressure on and bending of the strings ultimately define the note played) are a risky combination. If Jack is just a little low and Uli is just a little high, they're together both way off which is why it all sounds a little sour!

Uli is an artist, but that violin effect of his Sky Guitar can get tiresome. You sometimes feel inclined to take it off his hands and hand him his old Strat or Firebird which he still played with the Scorpions. IMHO, his lead guitar playing there surpassed both his predecessor's (Michael Schenker) and his successor's (Matthias Jabs).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-Mly7seMU

I try to keep up with everything I can Jack Bruce-related on YouTube.  I had never seen that one.  I'm not even sure if I had heard of it.  He does have a lot of performances out there, a lot of records, etc.  I'm trying to get as many of his CDs now that I can.  BTW, that Sky Guitar really looks strange.  I'm not used to seeing something like that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2021, 11:35:10 AM
Uli plays it well, but it's a fickle thing. BTW, his volume on stage makes Ted Nugent sound unplugged. Jack being volume-wise no shrinking violet either (as Ging Baker could testify), those two on one stage must have been something.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 17, 2021, 12:33:35 PM
Today my Xmas holiday should have begun with a trip to Edinburg. I was going to see Del Amitri live in Usher Hall. It would be the first time I'd see them live since the last time in 1995 (Twisted tour).
But the gig got cancelled yesterday due to the Covid Omicron crisis that hit the UK at the moment.  >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP8hc15-sF0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2021, 01:25:13 PM
Uli plays it well, but it's a fickle thing. BTW, his volume on stage makes Ted Nugent sound unplugged. Jack being volume-wise no shrinking violet either (as Ging Baker could testify), those two on one stage must have been something.

It was hard to tell the exact extent of it, but they seemed to have a genuine rapport on stage.  Very loud, too, but that's good. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 17, 2021, 02:02:37 PM
Jack didn't mind loudness with others. He dug Cozy Powell as a drummer und Gary Moore as a guitarist too. Both were painful on stage.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 17, 2021, 04:40:58 PM
Jack didn't mind loudness with others. He dug Cozy Powell as a drummer und Gary Moore as a guitarist too. Both were painful on stage.

I'm hoping to get at least some of that on CD.  I've been trying to look it up.  BTW, I had mentioned it before in another thread some time ago, but Jack said in an interview that Gary Moore was his favorite guitarist to be on stage with.  He attributed it to their Celtic connection. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 17, 2021, 05:09:41 PM
One of my favorites - Popa Chubby's Sweet Goddess of Love and Beer.  Simple bass line, but I think it rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNy-tfXq-s0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on December 23, 2021, 07:40:59 AM
Just came across this . She’s wonderful …

https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2021/12/21/kinga-gyk-this-christmas/?fbclid=IwAR0soFYYA5mvShpjkaWNuCJlCgBco4JmV1lmZt4v18QzLwpMVgugSSqSJjY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 23, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
It's playful. A bit too playful for my taste. :-X  I need more repetition.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 23, 2021, 01:49:02 PM
https://youtu.be/waHfFygWO1M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2021, 06:25:19 PM
https://youtu.be/Oav2DyApxZQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2021, 06:26:02 PM
https://youtu.be/fEGzVHBrUKw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2021, 06:28:19 PM
Swedish country singer Red Jenkins (Bjorn Raita) passed away unexpectedly 4 days ago. This is one of my favorite songs of his, it's a duet with Texas singer Amber Digby, whose birthday is today.

https://youtu.be/w3E9kIOqMzc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 01, 2022, 01:13:45 PM
For your New Years Day enjoyment.

Proof that that Pauly Shore's vocal abilities are just as good as his acting ability.  :mrgreen:

The ladies are very good, though.

https://youtu.be/NxAu8H3OZTk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 01, 2022, 01:17:39 PM
Swedish country singer Red Jenkins (Bjorn Raita) passed away unexpectedly 4 days ago. This is one of my favorite songs of his, it's a duet with Texas singer Amber Digby, whose birthday is today.

https://youtu.be/w3E9kIOqMzc

RIP Red Jenkins.  I think I got him mixed up with another singer, though.  I would never be able to get the great Amber Digby mixed up with anyone, however. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 03, 2022, 05:54:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbzJAMLlzKY

Does any of you guys know who played bass on this?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 03, 2022, 08:04:57 AM
https://youtu.be/h3h--K5928M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 03, 2022, 06:19:57 PM
Aufgepasst Holländer, this guy here:

(https://www.rockzirkus.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/chuck_rainey.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TAFWwqeHko

https://blues.gr/profiles/blogs/an-interview-with-legendary-bass-player-chuck-rainey

https://www.discogs.com/release/1096121-Labelle-Moon-Shadow

They play the song here at 20:38, the bassist occasionally strums with his thumb much like Chuck does and does have a long face (also much like Chuck), but whether Herr Rainey ever sported an afro like that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq5xBCkCLaM

I like this even better (also with Rainey), of course it's a totally OTT treatment of a Cat Stevens song, but being OTT was part of Labelle's charm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TVU_TlshEA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 03, 2022, 07:49:39 PM
For your New Years Day enjoyment.

Proof that that Pauly Shore's vocal abilities are just as good as his acting ability.  :mrgreen:

The ladies are very good, though.

https://youtu.be/NxAu8H3OZTk

What on earth has poor old Charlie done to deserve this? Last I heard, he only punched Mick once and he had it coming after all. The black chicks are indeed the only redeeming factor. Come back Grand Funk Railroad, you might have been a little heavy-handed yourselves with it, but what is not forgotten, is now certainly forgiven!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zflwb4YgAUM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 04, 2022, 01:27:21 AM

https://blues.gr/profiles/blogs/an-interview-with-legendary-bass-player-chuck-rainey

https://www.discogs.com/release/1096121-Labelle-Moon-Shadow

They play the song here at 20:38, the bassist occasionally strums with his thumb much like Chuck does and does have a long face (also much like Chuck), but whether Herr Rainey ever sported an afro like that ...


Thank you Uwe!
Yeah that must be him.
That live performance is impressive.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 04, 2022, 01:56:15 AM
Please God, make Pauly Shore shut up (and stay out of any further movies, too.)

As for Grand Funk Railroad, I've always appreciated them more than most seem to do.  With those black backup singers, they might even give the Stones a challenge, although no one is ever going to beat them on their own song. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 04, 2022, 07:11:29 AM
I really like Grand Funk and it is criminal that they are not in RRHoF yet. Their version of Gimme Shelter wasn't the musical catastrophy many critics proclaimed it to be at the time, but it did sacrifice all the eeriness of the Stones original and that is a key ingredient of that song. Grand Funk were a lot of (good) things, but eerie they were not

They never did the track, but an 80ies act like The Sisters of Mercy would have done a better job with it I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURM7l6_pvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RVJyNpfDk

Or someone like the sadly underrated Silent Running who never shook off the Simple Minds tag, but were to my ears a lot more potent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtoFMWJ0cG0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 04, 2022, 07:52:13 AM
I never quite understood how so many music critics could screw up so much, not just about GFR but many other bands, too.  Both Rolling Stone magazine and the RRHOF would do the world a big favor by just going away.  Goodbye and good riddance!  The world would welcome your demise.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 04, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
If Kiss is in the RRHoF, then GFR deserves it ten times over. The boys from Flint had an organic feel the New Yorkers never matched. Kiss - unless buried in Bob Ezrin's mega production and billowing e-e-echo-o-o - always sounded a little angular, strangely angular for an American band even; generally groove isn't you guys' problem. We're supposed to be the stiff ones!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 04, 2022, 10:56:27 AM
RT does Hank, 1981

https://youtu.be/Hep7FNNWyqo

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 04, 2022, 11:07:36 AM
If Kiss is in the RRHoF, then GFR deserves it ten times over. The boys from Flint had an organic feel the New Yorkers never matched. Kiss - unless buried in Bob Ezrin's mega production and billowing e-e-echo-o-o - always sounded a little angular, strangely angular for an American band even; generally groove isn't you guys' problem. We're supposed to be the stiff ones!

The RRHOF has received a lot of criticism through the years and I stopped paying attention to it years ago.  I believe many other people feel the same way.  The people behind it don't know what they're doing and that's clear to anyone who cares to take notice of this. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 04, 2022, 11:55:18 AM
I never quite understood how so many music critics could screw up so much, not just about GFR but many other bands, too.  Both Rolling Stone magazine and the RRHOF would do the world a big favor by just going away.  Goodbye and good riddance!  The world would welcome your demise.

AGREE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 05, 2022, 10:12:43 AM
AGREE

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 05, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Edge of Paradise covering The Who

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ie3sPiMdnU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2022, 04:22:32 PM
She does have range, but stilettos on a sand beach aren't practical!

I would have never guessed that they are Yanks, the music is very "Yurrropean Symphonic Metal w chick singer", which has become a popular genre all of its own. Figures that they are from LA, the US city that always tries to be more European than it actually is. ;D But then Margarita, the singer, is Russian by birth.

Anyway, I'm curious now and ordered two CDs, thanks for the tip!

Is there a market for this type of stuff in the US? There is in Europe, it's even a little crowded by now. The music with those image-strong front women and accessible melodies has crossover appeal for female and pop audiences.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 05, 2022, 05:23:54 PM
Love this tune. And the bass player is a KILLER.  His sound is magnificent....not bright, just right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPf0YbXqDm0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2022, 08:10:32 PM
Is that how your brain really, really works, Al, I write something about inadequate footwear in the sand and you then rush to the next best vid that starts with a women stilettos scene? WHAT IS THIS PLACE? ???  :mrgreen:

Herr Ronson must have listened to a lot of Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five (which I always liked though I'm by no means an expert on the rap/hip-hop scene) in his youth (probably the record collection of his older brother or parents!), his sounds and instrumentation immediately reminded me of Da Five.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PobrSpMwKk4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 05, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Is that how your brain really, really works, Al, I write something about inadequate footwear in the sand and you then rush to the next best vid that starts with a women stilettos scene? WHAT IS THIS PLACE? ???  :mrgreen:


I'm deeply proud to contribute to the long-running tradition of adding to such things!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 05, 2022, 09:47:14 PM
She does have range, but stilettos on a sand beach aren't practical!

I would have never guessed that they are Yanks, the music is very "Yurrropean Symphonic Metal w chick singer", which has become a popular genre all of its own. Figures that they are from LA, the US city that always tries to be more European than it actually is. ;D But then Margarita, the singer, is Russian by birth.

Anyway, I'm curious now and ordered two CDs, thanks for the tip!

Is there a market for this type of stuff in the US? There is in Europe, it's even a little crowded by now. The music with those image-strong front women and accessible melodies has crossover appeal for female and pop audiences.

I just discovered this band on my own.  Even though they are LA based, I don't much think this type of music has a market in the U.S.  The singer Margarita Monet is Armenian.  At some point (probably as a teenager) she moved to Moscow.  She was classically trained there, moved to the U.S. and gave piano lessons here.  With that money she got the band started.  It was the lead guitarist who got her interested in metal.  From the way she talked, it appears she doesn't think the band's first albums are any good.  I've also just ordered their last two albums. 

I saw her interviewed by an Australian DJ today.  So I got most of my info from that.  He pointed out that it's refreshing to hear someone effortlessly hit high notes, unlike some male singers who are aging and struggling.  I can sympathize with that.  But it's an exercise in futility to expect to compete with a chick singer like that when it comes to vocal range.  However, Margarita isn't really bragging about anything.  She said she started out just as a pianist.  Even on their first album she said she had to continually remind herself that she was supposed to be a singer, too. 

Here she is from five years ago.  It's pretty good, but I think she would agree that she has evolved since then.  She mentioned in the interview that her new producer is helping her tremendously in developing her vocal talent. 

Note:
After looking at Wikipedia (which I should have done in the first place) I see that Margarita actually moved to Moscow at an early age.  I had assumed from her interview that she spent her teenage years there.  But now I'm not sure.  She is fluent in Russian, but that is something common with Armenians.  Also, I got confused about when she moved to the U.S.  I had incorrectly assumed that it was in 2010.  But that's just when she moved to Los Angeles.  She did seem to talk about Russia a lot in the interview.  She mentioned, for instance, that Russians take music more seriously than Americans.  Also, in Russia if you aren't good enough, then don't expect anyone to give you any more chances.  It's over for you.  I found her blunt attitude to be amusing. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdMRkNO7MDk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 06, 2022, 01:38:46 AM

Is there a market for this type of stuff in the US? There is in Europe, it's even a little crowded by now. The music with those image-strong front women and accessible melodies has crossover appeal for female and pop audiences.

A friend of mine is bass player in the band Epica.  They are also a female fronted sympho/prog-metal band. They are enormously popular all across the world. Filling stadiums in South America etc. In the Netherlands they can fill a decent venue, but not stadium sized like abroad. They will never chart over here. It's a parallel universe.

Same goes for Nightwish with Floor Jansen. Until recently at least. The Dutch audience had never heard or cared about her (them) until she featured in a main stream tv-show called the "best singers", where they sing each other's repertoire. (lots of crying and overacted jaw dropping). All of a sudden the Dutch have embraced her and she's a celebrity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCScjvDOJM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvkYwOJZONU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIZkvhiOUU8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 06, 2022, 07:53:17 AM
Being the bass player for Epica is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 06, 2022, 08:05:04 AM
It is.
He's great bass player, He even has his own signature Dingwall bass.

https://dingwallguitars.com/d-roc-hellboy-ltd-edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvzYMm5XMU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 06, 2022, 08:43:21 AM
Sure I know Epica, have a few CDs, wish they would finally give up on the cookie monster vocals they occasionally still do, they grate in my ears.

I can take this "diet goth/semi-operatic/chick singer in long gowns with chugging metal rhythm guitars and lots of kitsch neo-classical piano for a symphonic effect" in moderate doses, mixing the DNAs of Kate Bush and Metallica so to say. Let's face it, a lot of those chorus parts wouldn't go amiss in the Eurovision Song Contest (as would the visual presentation), they are "Schlager" as we would say in Germany, with a heavy metal-citing backing. Still, with all the other crap music around, this stuff is still at least reasonably handmade and performed live.

Margarita's version of my countrymen's other über-ballad (besides Winds of Change of course) is nice, more so for the piano arrangement than her not very adventurous vocal performance on this particular track. That song was never written on or meant for piano, but her (?) piano arrangement captures it well.

I have to share this:
I just had an unsettling experience ... I'm sitting in the office typing this.  A hard disc player with 70.000 tracks is playing on random behind me. It is not - so at least I believed - in any way connected with my laptop I'm using right now. Yet while I am writing this, the random selection picks out the Scorpion's original Still Loving You and plays it (out of 70.000 songs!); the exact same song I only heard a minute before when I checked on the Margarita version Michael had posted! THEY ARE WATCHING US !!!

(https://i1.wp.com/www.defilmkijker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Review-They-Live.jpg?resize=675%2C380&ssl=1)

No doubt another aftereffect from that Bill Gates-spawned Corona booster shot I've received ...

We've taken too much for granted
And all the time it had grown
From techno seeds we first planted
Evolved a mind of its own


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y380pPnd0Go




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 06, 2022, 10:05:32 AM
Let's face it, a lot of those chorus parts wouldn't go amiss in the Eurovision Song Contest (as would the visual presentation), they are "Schlager" as we would say in Germany, with a heavy metal-citing backing.

Haha, I call it Efteling-metal.
Efteling is a fairytale fairground in The Netherlands.
You couldn't find a better way to torture me than to drag me around this place all day (or Disneyworld, Phantasialand etc).

A hard disc player with 70.000 tracks is playing on random behind me. It is not - so at least I believed - in any way connected with my laptop I'm using right now. Yet while I am writing this, the random selection picks out the Scorpion's original Still Loving You and plays it (out of 70.000 songs!); the exact same song I only heard a minute before when I checked on the Margarita version Michael had posted! THEY ARE WATCHING US !!!

Well, it IS your playlist Uwe.
Would never happen on mine  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on January 06, 2022, 11:52:23 AM


They never did the track, but an 80ies act like The Sisters of Mercy would have done a better job with it I think.



They actually did, it was a staple of their early live set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mgmXng5rto

the sisters actually started out as a cover band, their whole schtick was to do ridiculously overblown ironic versions of oft covered songs,

some of us think that was when they were at their best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT7udRdq1h0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 06, 2022, 12:19:08 PM
It is.
He's great bass player, He even has his own signature Dingwall bass.

https://dingwallguitars.com/d-roc-hellboy-ltd-edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvzYMm5XMU

I like the way that bass looks.  Also, obviously, he is very good. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 06, 2022, 12:25:26 PM
Sure I know Epica, have a few CDs, wish they would finally give up on the cookie monster vocals they occasionally still do, they grate in my ears.

I can take this "diet goth/semi-operatic/chick singer in long gowns with chugging metal rhythm guitars and lots of kitsch neo-classical piano for a symphonic effect" in moderate doses, mixing the DNAs of Kate Bush and Metallica so to say. Let's face it, a lot of those chorus parts wouldn't go amiss in the Eurovision Song Contest (as would the visual presentation), they are "Schlager" as we would say in Germany, with a heavy metal-citing backing. Still, with all the other crap music around, this stuff is still at least reasonably handmade and performed live.

Margarita's version of my countrymen's other über-ballad (besides Winds of Change of course) is nice, more so for the piano arrangement than her not very adventurous vocal performance on this particular track. That song was never written on or meant for piano, but her (?) piano arrangement captures it well.

I have to share this:
I just had an unsettling experience ... I'm sitting in the office typing this.  A hard disc player with 70.000 tracks is playing on random behind me. It is not - so at least I believed - in any way connected with my laptop I'm using right now. Yet while I am writing this, the random selection picks out the Scorpion's original Still Loving You and plays it (out of 70.000 songs!); the exact same song I only heard a minute before when I checked on the Margarita version Michael had posted! THEY ARE WATCHING US !!!

(https://i1.wp.com/www.defilmkijker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Review-They-Live.jpg?resize=675%2C380&ssl=1)

No doubt another aftereffect from that Bill Gates-spawned Corona booster shot I've received ...

We've taken too much for granted
And all the time it had grown
From techno seeds we first planted
Evolved a mind of its own


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y380pPnd0Go

Especially after watching that video, it became apparent to me that Margarita does have a few doubts about her singing.  I agree that the Scorpions cover was a little lacking.  But that was years ago and she has since improved.  With her new producer helping her develop her voice, I have a feeling the best is yet to come.

In regard to being watched, it's possible Rockwell (as corny as it may sound now) may have been way ahead of us all years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mRl9tW3kE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 07, 2022, 08:33:18 PM
They actually did, it was a staple of their early live set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mgmXng5rto

Huh, now wasn't I on to something here!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 09, 2022, 08:33:45 PM
Did I post this already?
I don't usually go for much fusion, but there is so much joy and life in the keyboard/drums interaction, especially after about 5 minutes in, that I love this and come back to it periodically.
One of these days I'll get around to watching the entire live DVD / documentary that this comes from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 11, 2022, 12:41:26 PM
Huh, now wasn't I on to something here!

And that was before Eldrich's incessant use of  gaggles of black backup singers no less.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 11, 2022, 07:17:22 PM
I would imagine that the fact that 'This Corrosion' was lavishly produced by Jim Steinman und 'More' even co-written AND produced by the same Meatloaf mastermind did nothing to endear those tracks to you, Jake!  :mrgreen: You never struck me as overly appreciative of Steinman's neo-Phil Spector approach of more is more = always better.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 11, 2022, 09:45:38 PM
My problem with Meatloaf was never the production.  More is pretty overwrought even by ironic standards (not a bad song though).  This Corrosion slightly less so (on both counts). Him having only produced that single track (Corrosion) off of Floodland (ignoring a 1/3rd prod credit on Dominion) actually makes sense - Lucieta My Reflection doesn't have half the cheese elements in it (like seriously the "gimmie the ring," "sing!" and shitty choir backup vocals are cringey AF - even 10 year ole me felt that, along with the horrible keyboard bits and that intro - the only good bit is the chorus.... which is probably why it's 70% of the song).  I know harpsichord and choral backups are literally gothic, but hey now, hey now now.

His biggest indictment is being fired by Def Leopard (LOL).  And that's despite being totally behind the times all throughout the 80s, with the Sisters being a weird outlier that only makes sense if you understand what wellREDman said above. Either he was in on the joke or more likely it was much lower budget than Bat Out of Hell (like they couldn't afford him for the whole record) so only qualified for the lowest tier in the Service Level Agreement. 

I'll leave you with a little gift though, which I suspect is all the kinds of wrong you like ;P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6WGDBTRB4


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2022, 05:36:03 AM
"His biggest indictment is being fired by Def Leopard (LOL)."

 :mrgreen: I actually regret that we don't have a Steinman-produced Hysteria. I really dug the predecessor, the likewise Mutt Lange-produced Pyromania which still had the edge and grit of youth, but Hysteria was produced to death by Lange. It sounded then and sounds today totally lifeless to me. IMHO, the Leps chickened out without their mastermind and had a knee jerk reaction dumping Steinman as a producer. I'm not saying that Steinman would have done an immaculate job, the result would have more likely been tragically flawed, but it would have been at least interesting. In an alternative universe, I would have imagined a Bob Ezrin'esque outcome.

Conventional wisdom has it that Steinman produced Bat Out Of Hell. He didn't, Todd Rundgren did (as Joe Elliott observed at the time). Steinman wasn't an engineer-producer, but a musical director (apart from being a songwriter), that approach didn't work for the Leps who wanted their best possible performances down on tape/hard disk with the best possible sound (Steinman wanted them to get something down, perfect or not, that "felt right" initially and work from there, layer for layer).

In contrast, Mutt Lange's code of conduct is perfection and sonic separation, he can be sparse (remember that this is also the man behind AC/DC's Highway to Hell and Back in Black albums) or he can be lavish, but he's never cluttered (Steinman can be, but then his musical taste is  piano-driven, Lange produces chiefly drum and guitar sounds).

PS: I really like Diane's version, thanks!



 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 12, 2022, 06:32:38 AM
https://youtu.be/J1nyR3si7lg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2022, 07:39:08 AM
You can hear in some of that where the early Allman Brothers were coming from.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 12, 2022, 08:40:12 AM
I dunno what you're talking about, Uwe - sounds like jazz with cowboy hats to me.

Cool Firebird.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 12, 2022, 08:50:17 AM
That tune is Duke Ellington's Take The A Train.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 12, 2022, 01:02:44 PM
 
That tune is Duke Ellington's Take The A Train.
8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2022, 02:05:49 PM
I dunno what you're talking about, Uwe - sounds like jazz with cowboy hats to me.

Cool Firebird.

Sigh, ignorance is never worn with greater pride than on the shoulders of youth!

The Allmans are not just Jessica and Ramblin' Man, but had - especially in their early days - a penchant for lengthy and jazzy improvisations. Much jazzier than anything you would hear with, say, Lynyrd Skynyrd. Dickey Betts could do quite a bit of Django Reinhardt.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 13, 2022, 01:33:50 PM
Rush never sounded more pleasant than here. Blood, Sweat & Tears beats Ayn Rand!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPiOuULemEA&list=RDCPiOuULemEA&start_radio=1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2022, 02:53:19 PM
This came up in my YT suggestions. Better put your Energy Dome on.

https://youtu.be/04pbtf5t_LU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2022, 04:41:25 PM
In 1982 the Billy Squier band was shit-hot, that is how I remember them from opening for Whitesnake. They gave the main act a hard time. Kenny Aaronson was awesome, the band incredibly tight and joyous in their interplay, Squier's voice athletic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqiYBw8zPiM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2022, 11:26:54 PM
Still one of the most infectious acappella intros ever. And Perry sure could sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxUuldUcfI

When I first saw him as Journey's new lead vocalist I thought he had Native American blood! Everybody went "Journey now have this handsome 'Indianer' singing for them and he's really good." (AFN or American Forces Network radio played Journey in heavy rotation in Germany in 1979-81.) It must have been the hair and the chiseled features. But Herr Pereira is a Portuguese boy. OTOH, sailor nation they were, who knows where all that DNA came from!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 17, 2022, 07:48:32 AM
There are several Portuguese-Americans of prominence.  Among them are Daniela Ruah of "NCIS Los Angeles" and Bobbie Gentry.  Many more could be added to the list. Joe Perry, for instance, is also of Portuguese descent.  I used to keep up with Portuguese stuff a little years ago when I studied the language for a while. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 17, 2022, 08:28:40 AM
I didn't know (or had forgotten) that Bobbie Gentry had Portuguese roots. Via this forum, I have become a great fan of her and have by now all her recorded work. There is a very good boxed set out there that compiles all of it (it wasn't that much - six CDs -, she retired early from recording).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 17, 2022, 09:06:13 AM
In 1982 the Billy Squier band was shit-hot, that is how I remember them from opening for Whitesnake. They gave the main act a hard time. Kenny Aaronson was awesome, the band incredibly tight and joyous in their interplay, Squier's voice athletic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqiYBw8zPiM

And later, he himself had a hard time with a fresh, young Def Leppard opening for him. His early stuff was cool in a more commercial Zeppelin sort of way. Talented guy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 17, 2022, 09:07:05 AM
Add Nuno Bettencourt as another Portuguese American of note.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 17, 2022, 10:10:24 AM
Today is Blue Monday.

Always nice to play some King Karma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt7gyETzsYQ


Full album:
https://youtu.be/kmwiHhToeZQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 17, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
Not the first band that comes to mind with that song title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYH8DsU2WCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ2ISJFdXVA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 17, 2022, 02:19:34 PM
it is for me :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 17, 2022, 05:09:45 PM
I didn't know (or had forgotten) that Bobbie Gentry had Portuguese roots. Via this forum, I have become a great fan of her and have by now all her recorded work. There is a very good boxed set out there that compiles all of it (it wasn't that much - six CDs -, she retired early from recording).

I don't think it has ever been mentioned here before that Bobbie Gentry was of Portuguese descent.  Her Portuguese parents divorced when she was very young and she was raised by her grandparents in Mississippi. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 18, 2022, 11:28:56 AM
Blue Monday done beautifully.  I saw George Benson live in Las Vegas years ago; it was a real treat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BWYhQPPxBM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 18, 2022, 11:43:26 AM
Sigh, ignorance is never worn with greater pride than on the shoulders of youth!

The Allmans are not just Jessica and Ramblin' Man, but had - especially in their early days - a penchant for lengthy and jazzy improvisations. Much jazzier than anything you would hear with, say, Lynyrd Skynyrd. Dickey Betts could do quite a bit of Django Reinhardt.

More like the glibness and sardony of middle age.

But fair enough - all I ever really learned from the Allmans was that Cerwin Vega made some cool guitar/bass speakers.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 18, 2022, 12:30:31 PM
Sardowhat?

(https://c.tenor.com/CvVqQXQYghkAAAAd/joker-joaquin-phoenix.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 18, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
Blue Monday done beautifully.  I saw George Benson live in Las Vegas years ago; it was a real treat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BWYhQPPxBM

I bought that album where this is from when it came out a few years ago. Very pleasant.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 18, 2022, 11:32:56 PM
Blue Monday will always belong to Fats. He co-wrote it with Dave Bartholomew.

Longtime YT personality Julia Nunes is partially of Portuguese descent.

This video from 2008. when she was in college, wasn't her first but it's the one that made her semi-famous.

https://youtu.be/HeP1Klmk0ng

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 20, 2022, 01:05:20 PM
Real country music, 58 years ago.

Norma Jean and Buck Trent are still performing.

https://youtu.be/2q8Jf6OR-j8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2022, 01:58:42 PM
Wot, there was more than one Norma Jean?  ??? I first thought "Norma Jean" was the title and the "two-faced blonde" referred to you know who!

Jaunty though and well-executed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2022, 02:12:00 PM
Fast forward 58 years and our favorite Swedish vaudeville ghouls/rockmock satanists are at it again, with a love song to the devil and a heartfelt homage to Jason with, uhum, cutting melodies ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2m_iqD7dI&list=RDrtkaUZvMaG8&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtkaUZvMaG8&list=RDrtkaUZvMaG8&index=1

Who comes up with stuff like this, hilarious! Great attention to period detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxrzUe_TDM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2022, 02:26:35 PM
Lecherous Gene in great form with one of the most underrated ZZ Top Kiss songs ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiSB7G732Eg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 20, 2022, 02:51:10 PM
I like that better than most other Kiss songs!

Here's another nice Domino

https://youtu.be/Rfdy-U5NdyM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2022, 03:50:06 PM
That has a nice tense rhythm, new-wavish even.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 21, 2022, 09:01:26 AM
I like that better than most other Kiss songs!

It's from one of their least silly albums Revenge. The tour was great if you're into that sort of thing.  ;D Their strongest lineup by far with Kulick and Singer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2022, 11:02:00 AM
True, very underrated (also Bob Ezrin-produced) album. Ole Gene also looked his best rock'n'roll outlaw around that time. I actually liked the way Kiss looked in their no make-up phase. Going back to the make-up was a bit chickening out to me.

This is from the same album, should have been smash hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUi_Dtcg0C4

And of course this late classic here, also from Revenge. Gene's voice is the epitome of cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfmrX_WlM2w

Gene was really writing strong songs on that album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww7RK1dPtiI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 21, 2022, 10:00:01 PM
I was driving the car and on a whim said "youtube play iron maiden live" and this came up. Did not expect a whole concert! Never listened to (or watched) this before.
I enjoyed the whole thing. Great band. And I still don't understand how Mr Harris makes flatwounds sound like that.

After listening to it audio-only, I looked up the video. Pretty funny to see all the striped spandex. Still great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XECqZcIO1fU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 23, 2022, 07:39:43 AM
Terry Kath, gone 44 years ago today.

https://youtu.be/7uAUoz7jimg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2022, 12:21:45 PM

What a talent.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 23, 2022, 05:15:48 PM
Hendrix thought that too of him.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2022, 04:17:19 PM
An unlikely cover, I know. But Marc's significant other and almost-wife (the car accident intervened), Ms Gloria Jones, does a fine job with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO9RuwOE3Bk

Noteworthy not just for the Bolan connection

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3LiwRs8v1UQ/XRjY7uDdIMI/AAAAAAAB-uQ/5UJyrHttMFwYl7f2irYiqENr8ncbOxOhACLcBGAs/s1600/Marc%2BBolan%2Band%2BGloria%2BJones%2B%252800%2529.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXkfYW8n7I


but also for charting this first in 1965:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KCASx_ytOs

Cool version of daddy's song here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1UZg0Px8Q


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 25, 2022, 08:33:07 AM
Cool version of daddy's song here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1UZg0Px8Q

Dig that, thanks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2022, 01:41:18 PM
Neither whitey nor whiney, just beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkDu2onYeyk

OK, she couldn't really whistle in tune!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 27, 2022, 03:55:15 PM
Say what you will, I thought he was great. And using the same chord changes for verse, bridge and chorus, yet they all sound different, but just as catchy, is just brilliant musicianship. Three chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRe648clNjg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 28, 2022, 12:09:30 AM
This popped up in my YT algorithm. The original.

https://youtu.be/sYy716zmXcM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 28, 2022, 01:24:38 AM
I discovered that last year while looking for something.  I can't even imagine how impressed I would have been if I had been living in 1928 and heard that.  The song is timeless. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 28, 2022, 06:29:45 AM
This popped up in my YT algorithm. The original.

https://youtu.be/sYy716zmXcM

Wow, they even nicked the flute parts. I had no idea. Thank you for shattering another myth for me, Dave! Don't do this to Deep Purple stuff, ok?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 28, 2022, 07:44:30 AM
Well you must know about this one right? I dig the psychedelic vibe of the Purple version but can understand why  the Cream version is more popular. Is it the only old blues the Purp covered?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXcaYs7UHcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTDQrgb7nhE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on January 28, 2022, 04:02:07 PM
Wow, they even nicked the flute parts. I had no idea. Thank you for shattering another myth for me, Dave! Don't do this to Deep Purple stuff, ok?

Same here. I know Canned Heat were serious blues historians but I never thought of looking up this original. Thanks!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2022, 12:22:47 AM
I'm sure more are out there. I've listened to tons of old blues over the years, but this one was a revelation to me.

Speaking of old songs, a local friend posted this in his FB feed, Mona and Lisa Wagner are Austrian-born twins now living in Liverpool.

My father was a fan of Gene Austin, he had Gene's original hit from the late 1920s. But it's funny that every single cover I've heard since Patience & Prudence's 1956 version is based on their duet, not on the 1920s hit.


https://youtu.be/VBvRFdxyqRM


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2022, 01:07:56 AM
https://youtu.be/QJO-YfEtdNA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 31, 2022, 01:47:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdqUgPKEVOQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2022, 03:28:26 AM
https://youtu.be/QJO-YfEtdNA

But that's hard rock, Dave!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2022, 04:38:52 AM
Well you must know about this one right? I dig the psychedelic vibe of the Purple version but can understand why  the Cream version is more popular. Is it the only old blues the Purp covered?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXcaYs7UHcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTDQrgb7nhE

That was credited to Skip James even on their first album (they weren't Led Zep after all), but save for the intro, they are basically aping the Cream arrangement. DP's debut was recorded so quickly after their foundation they were at loss for material, hence the many covers. That psychedelic vibe of the first album (and the two albums that followed it) were
quaintly out of touch with musical styles upon release in 1968/69, psychedelia had peaked already and was regarded especially in the UK as yesterday's flavor (there is a reason why Hush was a big hit in the US, but didn't even dent the charts in the UK and Europe).

Purple always had a blues ingredient, among their live material were covers of Going Down and Rock Me Baby, a lot of their songs followed blues patterns: Wring That Neck/Hard Road, Why Didn't Rosemary, Demon's Eye, Lazy, Place In Line. Prior to DP, Jon Lord had basically done nothing else but play in British blues outfits, most prominently in The Artwoods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBblKXwcnC4

It never left him, shortly before his untimely death he was part of a blues project with other Brit blues players from the British Blues Invasion period (or thereabouts). Classical music and the Blues were his main influences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU63y2FQYsQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on January 31, 2022, 12:01:17 PM


 Maybe old news, but I think these guys are cool and fun - Dig the girl and Dano, nice playing!

https://youtu.be/59MJbfNTUXs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 31, 2022, 02:02:45 PM
Jon played some blues with Bob Daisley too.

http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?action=post;topic=10941.2100;last_msg=207381

Based on his next band, Captain Beyond, Rod Evans either didn't get the memo about the psychedelic scene being over or he was just too stubborn to accept it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
But that's hard rock, Dave!

What is that supposed to mean?

The Angels were called Angel City in the US, since we already had the girl group Angels. Their songs were played on what were then called alt-rock or modern rock stations. That's where I heard them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2022, 08:19:51 PM
I just thought I'd mention it for transparency reasons. You know how hard rock has a habit ending up in arenas and stadiums.

"Based on his next band, Captain Beyond, Rod Evans either didn't get the memo about the psychedelic scene being over or he was just too stubborn to accept it."

Perhaps the realization that his voice fitted that type of music well. Evan's wasn't really a hard rock singer, hence his days with Purple were numbered as their music - come the 70ies - got harder at the instigation of Blackmore. And Captain Beyond with their eclectic and esoteric outlook never wanted to be another bluesy US hard rock band, they were after all an Iron Butterfly spin-off. For what they wanted to do, Rod Evans' crooner's voice was just right, he sounded certainly different to any vocalist you might expect on the Capricorn label.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2022, 08:23:34 PM

 Maybe old news, but I think these guys are cool and fun - Dig the girl and Dano, nice playing!

https://youtu.be/59MJbfNTUXs


Sigh, the Red Hot Chili Peppers have corrupted a whole generation of young people. Thankfully, lamé suits rather than socks (which would have posed an insurmountable problem for the bassist). I still have to give their new album (which I bought to find out what they were about) a spin.Their Eurovision win has certainly given their career a boost and I'm happy that there is someone out there being young and playing rock even though from what I've heard so far they regard the concept of a real chorus as a relic from the past. That said, no Danelectro has ever looked better than on her (and I bet that Flea was a role model for her).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2022, 08:48:40 PM
There is hope for youth after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw6vsHuqoGw&t=52s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 01, 2022, 07:41:18 AM

 Maybe old news, but I think these guys are cool and fun - Dig the girl and Dano, nice playing!

https://youtu.be/59MJbfNTUXs

A Facebook friend of mine posted that last week. Not bad. Not something I'm likely to reach for, but it's not about us old guys.  ;D Singer has a serious love of Perry Farrell.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 01, 2022, 09:45:30 AM
A Facebook friend of mine posted that last week. Not bad. Not something I'm likely to reach for, but it's not about us old guys.  ;D Singer has a serious love of Perry Farrell.

Oh definitely. Add Jane's Addiction to the RHCP influence, my bad.

That said, I'm happy that a young band like them are making an imprint at all. And not just by regurgitating Zep riffs either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 01, 2022, 07:44:26 PM
I've never really forgiven America for not elevating this band (that epitomized the melting pot) to the heights it deserved. And I know of at least of one Dutchman who agrees with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BcdaRmGtoU&t=161s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on February 01, 2022, 09:21:35 PM
I believe this might be at a Dutch festival:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPy5REpdahI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 02, 2022, 05:14:06 AM
Nobody else has a slap sound like Wyzard. Nobody.

And that drummer ended up in one of the Molly Hatchet line ups.

I did prefer Mothers Finest with that keyboarder in the first vid though. He was the icing on the cake.

PS: I've by now personally reached a stage where I don't want to play in bands without a strong keyboarder anymore. It makes everything sound more supple and elevates music from a garage sound.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 02, 2022, 10:46:28 AM
A very sparse, but also very gifted version. Less can be more. Lovely Dire Straits'esque guitar solo at 3:33.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNkzhHG0Prs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 02, 2022, 01:36:23 PM
Video unavailable. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 02, 2022, 06:19:05 PM
Which one? What part of the world do you live in for chrisssakes?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 02, 2022, 07:17:18 PM
Khruangbin. Stumbled across this band last night and it made me wonder if Andy Scott had a son from Texas, but once I zeroed in on the bassist I forgot all about that. This stuff is super chill but it stuck with me all day today so I ordered a few CDs.

https://youtu.be/q4xKvHANqjk?t=35
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 02, 2022, 10:14:09 PM
Oh my, did you buy a complementary yacht for yourself too, George?  :mrgreen:

(https://pontoonopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/boat-mormons.jpg)

Children beware: This is what old Mötley Crüe fans end up with!

PS: Actually, it's not all that bad, Herr Carlston. Reminds me of some of that cool Latin fusion stuff the Ian Gillan Band did around 1977:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LlClLhLKvc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 03, 2022, 12:26:56 AM
Which one? What part of the world do you live in for chrisssakes?


Video on #2113 reply.  It simply says "Video unavailable.  This video is unavailable." 

I'm in the USA.  However, I often have a problem with friends in the EU being unable to see the videos that I try to send them, too.  So this kind of problem is definitely not a one way street.  I'm sure it has to do with copyright issues which vary from one place to another. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 03, 2022, 05:47:34 AM
"I'm in the USA."

Yeah, I've heard about your place. The infrastructure is a bit dilapidated they say, but isn't there a Bill to make things better?  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 03, 2022, 08:13:37 AM
Khruangbin. Stumbled across this band last night and it made me wonder if Andy Scott had a son from Texas, but once I zeroed in on the bassist I forgot all about that. This stuff is super chill but it stuck with me all day today so I ordered a few CDs.

https://youtu.be/q4xKvHANqjk?t=35

I somehow YouTube rabbit-holed my way to this band not too long ago. Cool stuff. I'd like to see them live.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 03, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Andy Reloaded has a nice Spaghetti Western tone on his Strat.

(https://i.gifer.com/FQb.gif)


PS: Just ordered 5 CDs from them, now George can you let me please have that super yacht catalog too?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on February 03, 2022, 11:31:50 AM
I somehow YouTube rabbit-holed my way to this band not too long ago. Cool stuff. I'd like to see them live.

Good stuff! I've been switching back and forth between them and Renaissance.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 03, 2022, 11:40:11 AM
"I'm in the USA."

Yeah, I've heard about your place. The infrastructure is a bit dilapidated they say, but isn't there a Bill to make things better?  ;)

I'm here, but there are times when I identify with these Randy California lyrics where it says there are a thousand places I would rather be.  There can be several attractions of foreign countries, but the one which can hit you immediately is that there are no relatives there.

To be a little more specific, to be in the U.S. and around relatives who want to talk about politics, especially in an overbearing way, is very unpleasant.  It is too polarized here; I honestly can't stand it sometimes.  That's why sometimes when I get to be around friends in Europe who aren't so politicized, it's very calming.  Someone once wrote that "friends are God's apology for your relatives." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwivVRd4iBA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 03, 2022, 08:41:08 PM
Speaking of America, here is a song I found not long ago.  At first I thought it was going to be maybe sarcastic, but that's not really what it is.  It's some Swedes longing for the America of the 80s and early 90s.  One of the lines says, for instance, that somebody pulled the plug around 1993.  In an interview, the lead singer said some people were complaining that they were Swedes doing a song about America.  He said the title was "Anthem for America," not "Anthem from America."  BTW, these models who look like hookers dressed as cheerleaders just totally crack me up. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC8d37bACUE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2022, 05:51:47 AM
It's well-done and nicely anthemic, capturing the spirit of late 80ies hair metal - proper highpitched screamy vocals over the Mötley-Crüe-Dr. Feelgood-era musical mayhem.

But imagine this was 1972. And a young band would appear looking and playing like an early 50ies teddy boy act or an early 30ies coffee house orchestra, to the exclusion of everything else. They'd be regarded as  a novelty act at best. Yet today, we have all these bands devoting their talent and energy to get as close as they can to a sound and look that was culturally relevant 35 years ago. Is really all future in the past?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m__wmsIn99E

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2022, 10:29:00 AM
Some marvelous band interplay here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErZorc5u_k0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 04, 2022, 11:37:40 AM


 A new Red NR front and center here, all Gibson show!

https://youtu.be/WlREgftHomc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 04, 2022, 12:40:32 PM
It's well-done and nicely anthemic, capturing the spirit of late 80ies hair metal - proper highpitched screamy vocals over the Mötley-Crüe-Dr. Feelgood-era musical mayhem.

But imagine this was 1972. And a young band would appear looking and playing like an early 50ies teddy boy act or an early 30ies coffee house orchestra, to the exclusion of everything else. They'd be regarded as  a novelty act at best. Yet today, we have all these bands devoting their talent and energy to get as close as they can to a sound and look that was culturally relevant 35 years ago. Is really all future in the past?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m__wmsIn99E

In the case of rock, bands have to look back to an extent to the past if they're going to play it.  Maybe rock's peak was reached years ago, but I've changed my mind about it.  I'm not going along with that idea that rock is dead or dying.  I'm encouraged especially by young bands playing it.  For a while, it seemed like there was hardly any new rock music being made.  But I now see it's out there, maybe just not widespread and easy to find.  Seek and you shall find.  What's inspirational is seeing bands struggle against the odds, but keep moving forward anyway with their rock music.  But rock is just less prevalent and more elusive than it used to be.  I retract any statement I may have made through the years contrary to what I'm saying now.  BTW, I think the video by the Swedes is, of course, tongue-in-cheek, but there is still some relevance to their overall attitude. 





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on February 05, 2022, 08:27:07 PM
Oh my, did you buy a complementary yacht for yourself too, George?  :mrgreen:

(https://pontoonopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/boat-mormons.jpg)

Children beware: This is what old Mötley Crüe fans end up with!



WTF?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 07, 2022, 09:23:00 AM


 Ya know....

https://youtu.be/nYUbUl8onqg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2022, 10:56:03 AM
Amazing how good Van Halen can sound with someone who can actually sing in key and hold a note!

Also goes to show that if you write as many songs in major keys as Van Halen did, you sooner or later end up in Motown territory!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 08, 2022, 04:03:00 PM
I'm listening to Steppenwolf's last album for ABC 'For Ladies Only' (1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2-FhrlJ76c

and keep racking my brains what the inner sleeve photo of a car might mean in connection with the album title?

(http://images.45worlds.com/f/ab/steppenwolf-for-ladies-only-4-ab.jpg)
Secrets of the gatefold exposed!

Apparently, the vehicular projectile still exists

(https://www.thelaughclub.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/02/snoppbil1.jpg)

and I would deduce from the rather clipped tidied-up car front that it must be an American design, wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 09, 2022, 07:56:01 AM
That is f-ing hilarious!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2022, 09:46:39 AM
It was their last album before the later reunion, but it could really have been the peniletimate one.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 09, 2022, 10:38:07 PM
Joe Ely is 75 today.

https://youtu.be/olOHGFa2QmA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2022, 07:55:47 AM
Killer song with killer groove, also at the exact limit of how maximum fast I like rock music to be played. Anything faster eludes me, which is why Speed Metal, whether melodic or not, never did anything for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my52k5X2HCY&list=RDGMEMJQXQAmqrnmK1SEjY_rKBGA



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 10, 2022, 08:06:02 AM
You must be getting old Uwe. If that's the maximum you can handle. :mrgreen:

What about that favorite band of yours?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_s-49rNCdw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2022, 01:18:29 PM
But I never liked Priest's speed metal stuff even back in the day!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I'm a 120 to 140 bpm wuss.  :gay:

(https://img.fotocommunity.com/er-schaemt-sich-176cfa26-bd4b-4e87-b8ad-d70abae20487.jpg?height=1000)

Take this boy to a disco, make me feel good! (or: How to ruin your LBO reputation with just one post.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dKlLHE6sMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLGJXbl6g8o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3SOwdxzII

Ok, with all my heavy metal credibility now shattered forever: With Freewheel Burning I only admired, when it came out, the rapid velocity with which Halford sings/spits out the syllables in the middle part (at 1:54) - that is kind of hilarious -, but that ultra-fast stuff doesn't move me. Highway Star was my limit with Purple even as a teen, Rainbow's Kill the King was already way too fast for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83qBRmM00R4

Electric Eye's speed is still ok with me. Just about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0

My favorite Priest song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5PuYIsKbe0

was ruined by how rushed they did it live for a while, I could still shoot KK Downing for the way he speeds it up at the beginning!  :mrgreen: They took all the grandeur and majesty out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Es9LAHSqmc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 10, 2022, 02:07:58 PM
From now on we'll call you Captain Slow then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqAtPV-kgs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2022, 04:14:12 PM
I could never properly play that stuff either, I'm the world-worst speed metal bassist, I could never play even root note that fast, my right hand plectrum technique simply isn't up to it, it's like I have an inbuilt cruise control. Very embarrassing at auditions if you are suddenly asked to play something thrashy. People never believe me when I say I can't, they think I'm joking given the way I play at mid-tempo.

I'm the king of the fretboard at 120-140 bpm, go much faster and I'm like a Focke-Wulf 190 A above 20.000 feet - lame duck/target practice for Allied fighters.

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/focke-wulf-fw-190-fighter-aircraft-getting-shot-down.19830/full?d=1533599306)

I've often wondered why that is, in 45 years of bass playing I never really got fast. I can be flashy with what I play, but never with how fast I play it. Kids that play for a few weeks are "speedier" than I am. It's mostly irrelevant in bass playing, but I'm well aware of my limits. Now you know my dark secret.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2022, 05:45:42 PM
I never realized how blues-rocky they were live, "In the Summertime" must have been a novelty song for them. That is a very young Bob Daisley playing bass btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8II8BZgNEPk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 10, 2022, 05:57:18 PM
Bonnet had real charm as a front man - and looked different to any other hard rock singer in 1979, classy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjTaJo2n6hY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 11, 2022, 08:06:20 AM
Meanwhile, on a remote island outside of the EU, spirits remain high ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkdqR4WKvuU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 11, 2022, 09:28:10 AM
and looked different to any other hard rock singer in 1979, classy.

His look was really off-putting to me at age 15. I didn't get it at all, and looked at anything "50s" as old fashioned.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 11, 2022, 09:42:23 AM
I can relate. Dio looked like some fantasy munchkin (which projected the sword & sorcery lyrics) and there comes James Dean lookalike Graham with his Hawaii shirt and a white blazer! When I (at the time: long-haired) saw him like that I folded my arms ... But then, when he started singing "Eyes of the World" (first song in the new set) at the gig, I immediately knew: "Wow, this guy is something different." Rainbow live with Blackmore and Powell were a sonic beast that made no allowances for the vocalist whatsoever, yet Bonnet hollered them down. Vocally subjugating Rainbow live is no mean feat.  :mrgreen:

I also found it endearing that he showed up at the Rainbow audition in France (i) believing that Rainbow were a folk-pop band, (ii) not knowing who Ritchie Blackmore is and (iii) not knowing a single song by Rainbow OR Deep Purple. He had lived a musician's life completely out of the heavy rock bubble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HbEh0fy4io

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nelXyGTiG_o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2022, 01:22:28 AM
https://youtu.be/FYsCDwLfSMA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2022, 12:30:18 PM
The old man in the uniform shirt plays real nice fills. Listening to it, you get an idea where Garth Brooks came from.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2022, 12:59:57 PM
The old man in the uniform shirt plays real nice fills. Listening to it, you get an idea where Garth Brooks came from.

That's the legendary Jimmy Capps (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/arts/music/jimmy-capps-dead.html), who passed in 2020. Not too many session men rate a NY Times obit.

Michelle Voan, the backup singer about half his age, was his wife.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2022, 03:26:56 PM
Ain't I good? Without having an idea who he was, I noticed that he is something special. Just by listening. 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
For some reason, the first Steppenwolf album I heard was their ambitious and rather-late-in-their-career work 'Monster'. Back then (1974?, it had already been out for a while when someone lent me the album together with Steppenwolf '7') I thought it musically and lyrically impressive. Listening to it now (a remastered boxed set of Steppenwollf's eight albums with Dunhill/ABC came out recently), I still am.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-7uwshsfFI

Now, why these guys aren't in the RRHOF is really beyond me!

And I've only learned now that Mars Bonfire (aka Dennis Edmonton) who wrote Born To Be Wild was not an outside songwriter but the original lead guitarist of a band that morphed into Steppenwolf and who had already left them for a solo career (which failed, but hopefully the royalties from Born To Be Wild alone stood him in good stead, the guy from Wham, Andrew Ridgeley, only lives from "Last Christmas" which George Michael gave to him as well) when they recorded his composition. His brother Jerry Edmonton continued to play drums with Steppenwolf. Mars/Dennis would continue to write for Steppenwolf.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2022, 10:43:35 AM
The Purple Dinos roam the Earth again!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQusCx6NtdNyZXaN_AVTGSeudPLliKm25z5KQ&usqp=CAU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEVl0uAIA0&t=3s

This is not Made in Japan and it never will be again, but for a bunch of senior citizens where the youngest one (Morse) is 68 and the others all in their mid-70ies or - like Glover and Gillan - already closer to 80 than 70 it is still pretty darn good.

They even do a little pop music - at 17:20, cute. 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 14, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
Ain't I good? Without having an idea who he was, I noticed that he is something special. Just by listening. 8)

Yes, you're very perceptive.

I admire artists like Jimmy more than guitar hotshots whose only goal seems to be showing off.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on February 14, 2022, 01:56:06 PM
Yes, you're very perceptive.

I admire artists like Jimmy more than guitar hotshots whose only goal seems to be showing off.

 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2022, 02:34:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2022, 03:35:30 PM
Nothing much ever changes with these stalwarts of the NWOBHM, nor should it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgjJf-WpEis

There's a TBird in there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjcgHPsvFVY

And now a Ric.

Simon & Biff Uncle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM6s8VGRGsU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 14, 2022, 04:37:29 PM
You won't find many rockers over 70 who can sing like Biff Byford. 


https://www.loudersound.com/features/saxon-a-guide-to-their-best-albums
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2022, 05:46:06 PM
Look no further than Uncle Ted for subtle, nuanced messaging, that never ever rams things down your throat.

https://youtu.be/XO74BGKIrSc

Has Billy Squier yet found legal representation for this?!

https://youtu.be/69fPof-ZTnU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 15, 2022, 08:24:09 PM
They've never even been able to post the actual video for Billy's song "She Goes Down," which in my opinion may be his most controversial song.  I just wonder what his career would have been like if he hadn't done the "Rock Me Tonite" video which many people (including myself) found pretty absurd.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2022, 04:12:27 AM
Is that really more than an urban myth that this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0j7sModCI

did his career in? Squier seems to believe it himself:

"Music video

The video for the track was directed and choreographed by Kenny Ortega, who later directed the High School Musical films. It shows Squier waking up in a bed with satiny, pastel-colored sheets, then prancing around the bed as he gets dressed, ultimately putting on a pink tank top over a white shirt. At the conclusion he leaves the room with a pink guitar to join his band in performing the song.

For I Want My MTV, their 2011 oral history of the network's early years, authors Rob Tannenbaum and Craig Marks interviewed over 400 people, primarily artists, managers, filmmakers, record company executives and MTV employees. They said that none could agree on the best video, but all agreed that "Rock Me Tonite" was the worst. They devoted an entire chapter of the book to it.[4] Martha Quinn, an MTV VJ when "Rock Me Tonite" was released, called it "a super-fun video and a super-great song," and commented, "I don’t remember that video being poorly received at the time."[5]

Squier himself, and other observers, believe its homoeroticism alienated a significant portion of his fan base (predominantly teenaged boys at the time) and ruined his career. "I liked Billy Squier very much," says Rudolf Schenker of Scorpions, "but then I saw him doing this video in a very terrible way. I couldn't take the music serious anymore."[2]

History
The original concept for the video was Squier's. "[It] was based on the ritual of going to a concert," Squier recalled in 2011. "If we admit it, when we're getting ready to go out, we're checking our clothes and our hair." His idea was to show him doing that, paralleled by younger fans doing the same and then sneaking out to the show. He took it to Bob Giraldi, a director at the time much sought after in the wake of his highly successful video for Michael Jackson's "Beat It".[2]

According to Squier, he played the song for Giraldi and shared the concept with him. The director was initially enthusiastic, but then a week later changed his mind, saying it was not "something he'd want his kids to see." Mick Kleber, an executive at Squier's label, Capitol Records, clarifies that Giraldi was interested but wanted a bigger budget to work with. However, Capitol was not as open as other labels at the time to spending large amounts of money on videos, so he declined because he did not expect the label to be forthcoming (the final video was still the most expensive Capitol had put out at the time). Giraldi has said that Squier's original intuitions were right and that the video would have worked out had he directed it.[2]

Squier and his management then approached David Mallet, another popular music-video director of the time, whose work included Billy Idol's "White Wedding". Mallet put together some storyboards, but they were quickly rejected. "The first thing he showed me was a scene of me riding into a diner on a white horse," says Squier. "I was like, 'Get rid of him.'" Kleber thinks that Mallet may not have believed the song would be a hit, especially compared with some of the other videos he had done for Capitol at the time, and was just being courteous.[2]

By this point, a date had already been set for the video's world premiere on MTV. "We're running out of time," Squier recalls. Capitol and his management said they had talked to MTV about pushing the date back, but the cable channel could not guarantee a later date (Arnold Stiefel, Rod Stewart's manager, suggests that had Squier's management been firmer on this point, they could have held MTV to its commitment no matter what date was ultimately set).[2]

At that point, Ortega, a friend of Squier's girlfriend, called up Squier's managers and offered to direct the video. He had done choreography in some of Mallet's videos, and directed the clip for the Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited". Neither manager was particularly enthusiastic about Ortega, and pressured Squier to get rid of him. Capitol was disturbed that Squier had talked directly to Ortega, in contravention of their preferred practice, but deferred to him. "By going around the label, he had thrown down the gauntlet," Kleber says.[2]

Ortega suggested to him that he do some of the same moves he did during his show, without his guitar. Squier's idea was that the resulting footage should be grainy and in darker, subdued colors, evoking the 1980 film American Gigolo. He rejected a suggestion by Ortega that it look instead like Tom Cruise's air guitar scene near the beginning of the 1983 film Risky Business.[2]

The shoot was held in Los Angeles within two weeks of the world premiere date. Squier showed up on the soundstage and saw the decorated set. It was not what he had envisioned, and he expressed his misgivings. Ortega reassured him that the finished version would look as he had wanted it to. "I didn't like the sheets but I trusted the guy." Tom Mohler, one of Squier's managers, asked Ortega to make sure there was footage of the band performing the entire song to use as coverage; he says Ortega promised to do so but did not.[2]

Mohler pleaded with Capitol president Jim Mazza to just cancel the video, but the label stood firm. "I wish I had had the balls to say to the label, 'We're not putting it out,'" Mohler laments.[2]

Squier was aghast when he saw the video. Capitol told him not to worry since the single was so successful, but his girlfriend told him it would ruin him. He was touring at the time, and recalls that as soon as the video came out, he stopped selling out shows, in some cases playing to half-empty arenas. "I couldn't figure out why Capitol didn't pull that video and make another one," said Warren DeMartini of Ratt, who were opening for Squier at the time. Squier learned later that he could have done so himself, as Bruce Springsteen had been able to do with a video he disliked. "Everything I'd worked for my whole life was crumbling, and I couldn't stop it."[2]

As a result, he fired both his managers within a month. While they understood why, it was painful for Mohler in particular, since Squier had been best man at his wedding earlier in the year. He hired Stiefel to replace them, finished his tour and then took two years to release his next album, Enough Is Enough.[2] He has never matched his early chart success since then.

In 2011, Squier talked about the experience as "an MBA course in how a video can go totally wrong."

The video misrepresents who I am as an artist. I was a good-looking, sexy guy. That certainly didn't hurt in selling records. But in this video I'm sort of pretty boy. And I'm preening around a room. People said "He's gay." Or "He's on drugs." It was traumatizing to me. I mean, I had nothing against gays. I have a lot of gay friends. But like it or not, it was more of a sticky point then.

While he is still angry at Ortega, who he believes purposely misled and exploited him, he is philosophical about the video. "The scars aren't that deep ... It's a bad part of a good life."[2]

Ortega has refused to accept blame for the video, saying it was filmed as Squier had conceived. "If anything, I tried to toughen the image he was projecting," he told the author of a 1986 book about the record industry. He claims he and the video's editor had their names taken out of the credits when they got frustrated over their lack of creative input. "Let there be no doubt, 'Rock Me Tonite' was a Billy Squier video in every sense. If it has damaged his career he has no one to blame but himself."[6] In 2012, Tannenbaum said that while researching I Want My MTV, he attempted to contact Ortega to get his response to Squier's complaints. He said the director's representatives delayed him until after the book's deadline passed, so he never got an answer.[7]

Writing for Ultimate Classic Rock, Jeff Giles disagrees with the assessment that the video ended Squier's career: "Just a quick scan through the top rock hits of 1983 and 1984 is all you need to find evidence that Squier was hardly alone in filming cheesy, low-budget or gender-bending videos."[8]


But I kinda wonder. By 1984, gay or effeminate front men weren't that outlandish. You had Freddie Mercury and Elton John, you had Rob Halford who at the time looked like he was auditioning as the new Siegfried for Siegfried & Roy (who you knew might be sharing a bed with their white tigers, but certainly not with women)

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d7/34/03/d73403dce8016665c0417736593c4a75.jpg)

- anybody caring to look knew these men were gay. And there had always been effeminate, pretty boy or androgynous front men like Jagger, Plant, Bowie, Marc Bolan, Alice Cooper, Peter Frampton, Michael Jackson or Paul Stanley. So what was - even in 1984 - so incredibly shocking about a guy (who had always looked and even sounded closer to Rick Springfield than a chest-beating macho like Paul Rodgers and had a considerable female audience) prancing about in Flashdance style and sleeping in pink satin sheets? I had seen Squier live only two years before and he hadn't struck me as either caveman'ish male or effeminate, he was just a good-looking skinny dude with tousled hair certainly aware of his appearance on the other sex, but not even particularly androgynous. He certainly had a good ear for tuneful hard rock though and an agile upper register voice plus a great band, I thought his live performance extremely impressive. His pipes remain impressive to this day, even when he performs just with his electric guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM6tm2MB9VQ

The "prancing"-vid otoh always reminds of Kevin Kline's wonderful coming-out dance routine in In & Out,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZslyHY4quQ

but granted that film came 13 years later. Anyway, if that Rock Me Tonite-vid was really to blame for the demise of Squier's career, then I'm certainly glad that a similar reaction would be unthinkable today.

Not everything is turning for the worse.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 16, 2022, 08:46:47 AM
This sentence is significant-


"By 1984, gay or effeminate front men weren't that outlandish.  You had Freddie Mercury and Elton John, you had Rob Halford..."

When I saw that video in 1984, I was living in New Orleans.  Although I'm not gay, I was certainly around other people who were.  That continues to this day.  I think even my boss was gay at that point in time.  When I saw the video on TV, the gay issue didn't even cross my mind.  What did cross my mind, though, is that that seemed to be pretty bad dancing in the video, if it can even be called dancing at all.  Billy Squier is a good singer, but not a particularly good dancer.  BTW, the director of that video should have been taken out and shot.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2022, 12:24:37 PM
At any given time you would always have a healthy share of gays in showbiz and art - throughout all cultural ages. It's not a new thing at all.

I can see how the lead singer of, say, Molly Hatchet or Bob Seger outing themselves as gay would have affected the Hatchet/Seger fan base, but with "Dame Halford" - who pretended to be surprised if he had more than a fleeting knowledge of Priest's stage show and lyrics? And to me, Billy Squier wasn't an archtypical macho rock male, he was somewhere between power pop and hard rock, his music had crossover appeal right from the start (hence all those hits), he wasn't Ted Nugent or Manowar you know. Squier's type of genre really didn't pin him down that much (you would think), he could have been a  ham-fisted male, gay as a goose or just androgynous - anything goes. And, apparently, he wasn't even gay, not that it should have mattered either way.

Ok, so you weren't supposed to dance in a rock video until Pat Benatar came along with Love is a Battlefield,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo

but that actually predated Squier's vid! I wonder whether the director was aiming for something like that, breaking down barriers between rock pop and dance pop (plus presenting him more as a handsome solo artist rather than a "one of the boys"-band member) which made sense with Squier's female constituency and the rising importance of MTV where you didn't want to be relegated to presenting rock bands always in a phony live setting. But of course, Pat was a woman and her choreography was put in the context of a story the video told while Billy skipping about was kind of unmotivated. (I tend to pee and then take a coffee first thing in the morning, dance routines come later.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 16, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
Michael Stipe also has an awkwardness in his movements.  But what worked for him didn't work for Billy Squier.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 16, 2022, 03:50:17 PM
Yeah, R.E.M. always retained their counterculture, college campus image, a gay front man incessantly ruminating about where the world is going, did them no harm, it was part of their woke image. In contrast, Billy Squier was just another long-haired arena rocker "play yer guitar and entertain us[/i]".

I would have never believed I'd say or write this, but I do miss R.E.M. (and I hated that band initially). I really do. Time for a reunion please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyk-Vdd_Qrk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 16, 2022, 06:41:23 PM
I was never a fan, but they did have some good songs.  Also, R.E.M. was definitely a unique band.  Originality and authenticity matter, even if the music involved may not be one's preferred kind.  But I doubt Michael Stipe will be doing much music again.  He seems to have moved on to other things. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 18, 2022, 11:21:25 AM
I didn't have MTV in my home until I moved out of my mom's house in 1988, so I only ever saw it at friend's houses. I didn't see the Squire vid until YouTube came along years later. It was shocking and hilarious to me. I assumed they all had done too much blow, which is funny as he mentions people thinking they were on drugs. He had peaked at this point anyway, but it is unfortunate that he didn't really get to evolve into a more mature artist, as I believe he had the talent to do.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 20, 2022, 07:11:47 PM


 I'm liking this a lot, one of my fave LZ songs covered by JPJ and a lot of other people.

https://youtu.be/LH0-WXUFY2k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2022, 08:57:18 PM
Sehr schön. Love the performance of the Tedeschi-Trucks spouses.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2022, 09:41:47 PM
https://youtu.be/cNpI-ZiqG7I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2022, 05:35:35 PM
What a guitarist he was. Totally underrated.

https://youtu.be/sMVFYGYr76A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 22, 2022, 08:21:22 AM
What a guitarist he was. Totally underrated.

https://youtu.be/sMVFYGYr76A
   


 WoW! Damn cool!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 22, 2022, 09:01:31 AM
Prince underrated? By who?
Most people that I know consider him a demigod.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2022, 02:29:51 PM
He's underrated as a guitarist much as Zappa was underrated as a guitarist. The complete artist overshadowing the instrumentalist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 22, 2022, 03:11:58 PM
When Purple Rain reigned the charts Prince was hallowed as the new Jimi Hendrix by the music press. Even though he didn’t like the comparison, it was obviously a huge compliment. The solo in Purple Rain solidified his name as a brilliant guitarist.

There is also this performance.

https://youtu.be/dWRCooFKk3c


Now if you’d say he was an underrated Bass player, I would agree.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2022, 07:22:33 PM
Was there an instrument he was not good at? Bagpipes perhaps?

My first Prince moment in time was listening to this in the early 80ies on the car radio in Florida, it was on rotation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KpfrJE4zw

The breathy whispered and affected vocals, the overall catchiness of the tune, his citing of rock'n'roll licks, the image - I thought he was Marc Bolan resurrected - and in black, something the later Bolan always wanted to be as more and more black influences crept into his music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUXqWeryWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awbnP4g5HuE

Even Bolan's slapdash frenzied lead guitar playing bears similarities to Prince although Prince has way more technical expertise.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2022, 07:28:37 PM
I remember my college roommate (who was a guitarist) telling me one day that Prince was the greatest guitarist in America.  This surprised me.  He had never even mentioned Prince before.  My friend spent most of his time playing Beatles songs and his own songs.  But I remember my impression being that I knew Prince was good, but I didn't realize he was that good.  Because I had known this guitarist for years even before college, and respected his opinion, I began to pay closer attention to Prince after that.  Although I never really became a great fan, I did obviously observe through the years that many people considered Prince brilliant. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2022, 07:48:13 PM
Uli in his prime ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdOOLOARYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEGxQNK00vk

Poor Rudolf has to play all those Uli licks in harmony lead - something he hated doing! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2022, 08:08:25 AM
https://youtu.be/Cp1-bAceoCo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2022, 08:38:18 AM
Göran does a nicely intricate job in his interpretation (one instrument and one take!), but what he doesn't capture is that uplifting feel even minor key Macca compositions have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K54w1GwfA-w

I think it might also have to do something with a more classical player interpreting it or someone with a genuine pop feel. Mind you, Hawkes' version is of course an overdub orgy (once a multi-layerer, always a multi-layerer!). BTW, you might remember the nerdy little uke player from some other instrument ... (when he wasn't stealing women's underwear that is), first appearance at 0:41, close-up at 2:58, deplorable garment fetish theft at 3:02:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfH1SR0mnc

My gosh, Elliot Easton was what I consider "artful" in his lead guitar solos, each one a little music piece. And Hawkes' synth lines were of course the icing chrome on The Cars' cake grille, they too were music in themselves.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2022, 09:21:44 PM
Rudolf playing lead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNDdIfKbkw

That new album is actually quite a cracker, their best work in decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLV1E4O2Zs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2022, 09:39:45 PM
Glam Kiss in full splendor and Michael Bolton mode, OTT and larger than life as that song is, I always found it catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HshQidqYxjg

And while we're at it, yet more Über-ballads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_RKO5ozLVo

I really liked Eric Carr's drumming, little guy was lively.


Together with Beth their strongest ballad, you hear Ezrin's hand in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUi_Dtcg0C4

Nuff of this sissy stuff, time to rock (with some debt owed to Eddie Cochran's Summertime Blues)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXvYdnQraBc

Paul, always an avid listener of what other people do, must have liked Rober Palmer's Addicted To Love ...  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNKJ4SPj_Rw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2022, 09:52:41 AM
I started getting hooked on this cover of "Roxanne" a few days ago.  The CD it's on is hard to find, but I was finally able to get it yesterday after much effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8U6-xcE2vU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2022, 01:20:53 PM
That's a great version, introspective, dynamic, daringly different.

Hughes' version is sung in a stellar way, but not as radical an alternative approach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv1dIN87C3M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 27, 2022, 12:32:05 AM
That's a great version, introspective, dynamic, daringly different.

Hughes' version is sung in a stellar way, but not as radical an alternative approach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv1dIN87C3M

I think both covers are outstanding.  A pleasure listening to them both.  Lacey Sturm also has an original song against human trafficking.  If I can find a good live version to post, I will.  I just don't much like the official video of the studio recording.  It doesn't really make much sense to me. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 28, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
Rudolf playing lead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNDdIfKbkw

That new album is actually quite a cracker, their best work in decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLV1E4O2Zs

Scorps are all grown up! Seriously, it's nice to see them in a more mature phase of their career. Much respect. And they still rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2022, 09:37:13 AM
On a trip back to memory lane
Been listening to Sweet d'Buster last few days.
I used to have this on cassette back in the eighties. Played it a zillion times.

Herman Deinum is a force of nature on bass.
Who says you can't groove with a pick should give Sweet d'Buster a spin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hcUb5xlNUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i69-Wwu-E5Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F_6uZej-eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmUdX5NM1w



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2022, 10:16:56 AM
Those guys are good! Never heard of them before.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 01, 2022, 10:34:30 AM
There is not a lot of live video footage of these guys. But here's a reasonably good one:

https://youtu.be/jvEtpKxhTwM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2022, 11:39:35 AM
He plays like Wolfgang Schmid (once the bass player of German fusioneers Passport) - probably the way you develop as a pick player if you lean towards that type of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9SjCrseg1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU5IdEY92KI

John Gustafson, another pick player with jazz funk leanings, had a similar style too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKas0OztpI4

Horst Stachelhaus of Birth Control - though not a pick player - is another one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLXeB2qHjV4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 01, 2022, 12:58:11 PM

John Gustafson, another pick player with jazz funk leanings, had a similar style too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKas0OztpI4


Never heard Ian Gillan sound so much like Glenn Hughes!  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2022, 02:27:55 PM
Interesting, ain't it? In a radically different setting from Purple, his voice became all of the sudden funkier and grittier, he found a way to reinvent himself. He had nothing to do with the instrumental music - that was all the do of the bunch of Weather Report fans that made up IGB -, but the vocal melodies and phrasing above the funk-jazz melee were all his.

I never associated his performance on the three IGB albums with Glenn Hughes, but come to think of it, you're right! Gillan and Hughes have never sung together, but Gillan rates Hughes as one of the strongest British singers, albeit with the predicament of always sounding like someone else, namely Stevie Wonder!

Mind you, IGB was one of the most divisive post-Purple split-off projects. Purple fans were flabbergasted by all the syncopation going on and fusion (a genre quite popular at the time) fans passed at the thought of that ex-DP screamer from Made In Japan - of all people! - fronting a jazz rock outfit, you weren't really allowed to do that if you weren't immediately identified with a black voice. And when Punk came, that sounded the death knell.

To me the IGB and especially their jazziest second album "Clear Air Turbulence" were one of the best things Ian did outside of his day job. Six lengthy tracks, yet everyone of them amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxr7rqXF55M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSYZxgQSsFU

Mark Nauseef's drumming and especially how he employed the bass drum was and remains incredible.

And I'm not alone in my assessment, this guy here

(https://townsquare.media/site/366/files/2022/01/attachment-bruce_dickinson_spoken_word_tour.jpg?w=733&q=75)

is a fan of that particular album too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 01, 2022, 03:21:01 PM
Mark Nauseef's drumming and especially how he employed the bass drum was and remains incredible.

Mr Super Thighs as Philip Lynott used to call him (from 2:34)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BVymzMaI0I


(don't pay too much attention to the super obnoxious Gary Moore in this performance. I wonder what drugs he was on... :o)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2022, 07:31:12 PM
The disconcerting thing was: Gary didn't need any drugs to be always clamoring for maximum attention, it was his natural state.  :-\

No doubt a single child.


Speaking of Mark, let's just say he has developed into more demanding realms of music over the decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoABAzT9QyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANdGo7QfmAs


I wouldn't dare comment any further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGB59HuKu-I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 02, 2022, 01:50:25 AM
Haha, that first video is over an hour!
I skipped through it to see if anything happens. But it's really exactly the same all the time. :o
Now that is what I call challenging the audience  :mrgreen:

I'm quite sure his thighs aren't as super anymore these days  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 02, 2022, 08:47:43 AM
He plays like Wolfgang Schmid (once the bass player of German fusioneers Passport) - probably the way you develop as a pick player if you lean towards that type of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9SjCrseg1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU5IdEY92KI


That's some great playing from Mr. Schmid. Definitely has some funk for pick-style playing. I haven't heard the name Passport in years. I'll have to do some digging...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2022, 09:39:44 AM
Schmid and (Hellmut) Hattler (once of Kraan) are generally regarded as the German pick playing bassist "emperors":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99XR8d2rVg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvFzSJnkdNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk2MLw2y0wE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 02, 2022, 11:47:06 PM
Pre-toupee, when Carl had his own hair.

https://youtu.be/bdiD_CcEIWc

https://youtu.be/xZwCkyTL9E8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 03, 2022, 03:45:32 PM
Bad cover. Funny video.
A German with a sense of humor?

https://youtu.be/CqOvc6dClaQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2022, 09:13:08 PM
I never even liked that song when Queen did it, I thought it silly and a soccer chant. Queen did a fast version of it as their opener for a while, that sounded better to my ears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGBUJL5uS_c

That's not knocking Queen, they did great stuff, but We Are The Champions and We Will Rock You were always too obvious for me.

I do like UDO's work in general though, he's an original and a character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq0khKsgthY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig1HJClDszw

Both his music and Accept's have a "clean German engineering" aspect to them that appeals to my innermost demons.

And UDO's successor in Accept isn't doing a half-bad job either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KeaNhPcNq0

And German humor is of course no laughing matter, but serious work.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 03, 2022, 10:32:10 PM
A #1 hit on the R&B charts in 1949.

https://youtu.be/XdTsuro9tG8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 04, 2022, 06:18:04 AM
Back when "all she wants to do is rock & roll" had (not so) subliminal meanings.  :)

That original meaning got somewhat lost over time as rock'n'roll was made presentable to white audiences. But there were luckily resurgences!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QvvByvbwLk

That guitar still sounds so Nile Rodgers to me, but it isn't. Jerome Smith of KC & The Sunshine Band played it.

(https://i0.wp.com/rockandrollparadise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Jerome-Smith.jpeg?resize=198%2C300&ssl=1)

Killed in a freak bulldozer (he was operating) accident in 2000.  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 06, 2022, 07:56:22 AM
More Wynonie

https://youtu.be/RsDrJwVCyuU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 08, 2022, 02:38:06 PM
Graham Bonnet singing about the ageing rocker he is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbakmECj-go
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2022, 03:57:30 PM
Very nice, bedankt! I know it's OTT, but I like it. Re age, he always has that cute bassist to console him. They met in a totally un-rock'n'roll way, in a parent group for Asperger's kids, they bonded over that and when he learned that she played bass he asked her to join him on tour, the rest is road history.

Meanwhile, Alcatrazz continue with another Rainbow alumni, a Scottish one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdn8ppUCVBQ

They can reproduce it live too. Though Joe Stump plays lead guitar like all heavy metal lead guitarists must sound to you IF YOU HATE HEAVY METAL !!!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nascJaHdc0s

Doogie can sing, no doubt, but he's no Graham Bonnet (he always admitted himself that Bonnet is the hardest Rainbow singer to replicate in tone). Alcatrazz without him is a bit like Dio (the band) with Joe Lynn Turner fronting.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2022, 05:47:32 PM
Well, it rocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pNDtDC0sE

Man, I'd really like to see them live, they scrapped their European tour. It's unusual to see Glenn playing with two guitarists (something he has never done in his chequered career, guitar and organ, yes, but never two guitars) - he's so upfront and pushy as a bass player, I had some concerns it might not work, but it sounds great here.

Hope he sticks around for a while with those guys.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 09, 2022, 01:19:18 AM

Hope he sticks around for a while with those guys.

Does he ever? He never seems to stick around with anyone too long.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2022, 04:40:44 AM
That's the issue of his life. Something snapped after filthy lucre lured him away from his beloved Trapeze. That band was his first and true love.

Well, he didn't really exactly ever leave Deep Purple in a strict sense; Lord, Paice & Coverdale all left him and Tommy Bolin (without telling, the management did months later, both he and Tommy were surprised by the news) because they couldn't live/tour with their antics anymore.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 09, 2022, 09:00:32 AM
Nice that they show older folks in the crowd.  8)

Isn't this the band that was put together by some rich guy who pays these guys to be in his band? Glenn has done better in recent(ish) years. I liked California Breed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2022, 09:50:38 AM
"Isn't this the band that was put together by some rich guy who pays these guys to be in his band?"

Yup, David Lowy, if only he'd call me!

He'd make a good fit here. Has, uhum, pertinent interests, that is his 1944 Spit in the background (flyable condition).

https://australianaviation.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/0I0A3260_1170.jpg

(https://australianaviation.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/0I0A3260_1170.jpg)

Ole Glenn hasn't had it this good since "Deep Purple Starship" Boeing 720 days of Purple yore ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz9fDPJKDx4

He's honest about it too, he says he "appreciates the comfort" and the professional organisation with The Dead Daisies. Plus you get nice recording locations too, what's not to like?

https://milocostudios.com/studios/la-fabrique/intro/

I'd join The Dead Daisies in a heartbeat, cruise to your retirement in style!

They're not a bad band either, Rob and I saw them in 2015 in Utrecht, NL (I was there for paratrooper training  ;D ), as opener for Whitesnake, the pre-Glenn line-up with Corabi and Mendoza. They're a real rock band in the "classic rock" field, not just a millionaire's whim.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on March 09, 2022, 06:19:09 PM
"Isn't this the band that was put together by some rich guy who pays these guys to be in his band?"

Yup, David Lowy, if only he'd call me!

He'd make a good fit here. Has, uhum, pertinent interests, that is his 1944 Spit in the background (flyable condition).
 

Ole Glenn hasn't had it this good since "Deep Purple Starship" Boeing 720 days of Purple yore ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz9fDPJKDx4

He's honest about it too, he says he "appreciates the comfort" and the professional organisation with The Dead Daisies. Plus you get nice recording locations too, what's not to like?

https://milocostudios.com/studios/la-fabrique/intro/

I'd join The Dead Daisies in a heartbeat, cruise to your retirement in style!

They're not a bad band either, Rob and I saw them in 2015 in Utrecht, NL (I was there for paratrooper training  ;D ), as opener for Whitesnake, the pre-Glenn line-up with Corabi and Mendoza. They're a real rock band in the "classic rock" field, not just a millionaire's whim.
   


Short legged thing......Where's my Mustang, or better, Corsair?!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2022, 05:50:39 AM
I once read from a pilot who flew all of them that carrier-based fighters - even flawed ones like the Corsair which was mainly operated by the Marine Corps Aviation Units from Pacific island landing strips (and did of course great from there)  - were by necessity creatures of compromise and not thoroughbred interceptors. He further wrote that in typical dogfight scenarios, Zeros, Hellcats and Corsairs (great planes they all were for their given purpose) would have been hopelessly outclassed by strictly land-based fighters such as Bf 109, FW 190, Spitfire, Thunderbolt and Mustang. In the Pacific, nearly all fighter-to-fighter combat took place between aircraft designed for carrier duty, they were all one "class" so to say. (And once US interceptor ingenuity in the form of the Mustang saw more deployment as the US closed in on Nippon, the Japanese were at a loss what to do, especially at high altitudes never deemed relevant for naval air combat. Hell, even the Lightning did well in the Pacific - mind you, against carrier-based Japanese fighters! -, put up against Bf 109s or FW 190ies in European skies, however, it left the Luftwaffe unimpressed.)

The argument seemed to make sense to me. It works both ways: Attempts to (re)design the Bf 109 for service from the Reich's planned (and eventually scuppered) Graf Zeppelin carrier project created barely flyable monstrosities. It was part of the reason why the whole project failed, not just the fact that the rough North Atlantic (plus the generally bad weather prevailing there) is not an ideal carrier environment like the Pacific.

Observation: That sleek Rolls Royce Merlin engine sure is a determining design feature - looking at the snout of that '44 Spitfire you'd be forgiven to think you have a Mustang snout before you. I'm not the greatest Spitfire look (it's a very pure design, I'm happy to admit that) fan on earth (more the Hawker Tempest/Typhoon guy), but David Lowy's '44 specimen is probably the most beautiful Spit I've yet seen. I don't really like the look of a Bf 109 either, my heart is with Focke Wulf 190 A or D types, just as I prefer a Thunderbolt visually over a Mustang (another pure and sleek design, no doubt). I guess I'm a radial engine guy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 10, 2022, 08:20:26 AM
Good for Glenn! Yeah, I can definitely see the appeal of that at any age.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2022, 03:34:20 PM
More Dr Hook - I love the way Ray Sawyer "plucks" that battered Jazz (he's generally not credited as playing bass with Dr Hook, perhaps a one-off on this track), totally in a style of his own:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCDJj3mbgSQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2022, 04:16:35 PM
Très cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NMf4XGq2Fw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on March 11, 2022, 09:05:22 AM
I once read from a pilot who flew all of them that carrier-based fighters - even flawed ones like the Corsair which was mainly operated by the Marine Corps Aviation Units from Pacific island landing strips (and did of course great from there)  - were by necessity creatures of compromise and not thoroughbred interceptors. He further wrote that in typical dogfight scenarios, Zeros, Hellcats and Corsairs (great planes they all were for their given purpose) would have been hopelessly outclassed by strictly land-based fighters such as Bf 109, FW 190, Spitfire, Thunderbolt and Mustang. In the Pacific, nearly all fighter-to-fighter combat took place between aircraft designed for carrier duty, they were all one "class" so to say. (And once US interceptor ingenuity in the form of the Mustang saw more deployment as the US closed in on Nippon, the Japanese were at a loss what to do, especially at high altitudes never deemed relevant for naval air combat. Hell, even the Lightning did well in the Pacific - mind you, against carrier-based Japanese fighters! -, put up against Bf 109s or FW 190ies in European skies, however, it left the Luftwaffe unimpressed.)

The argument seemed to make sense to me. It works both ways: Attempts to (re)design the Bf 109 for service from the Reich's planned (and eventually scuppered) Graf Zeppelin carrier project created barely flyable monstrosities. It was part of the reason why the whole project failed, not just the fact that the rough North Atlantic (plus the generally bad weather prevailing there) is not an ideal carrier environment like the Pacific.

Observation: That sleek Rolls Royce Merlin engine sure is a determining design feature - looking at the snout of that '44 Spitfire you'd be forgiven to think you have a Mustang snout before you. I'm not the greatest Spitfire look (it's a very pure design, I'm happy to admit that) fan on earth (more the Hawker Tempest/Typhoon guy), but David Lowy's '44 specimen is probably the most beautiful Spit I've yet seen. I don't really like the look of a Bf 109 either, my heart is with Focke Wulf 190 A or D types, just as I prefer a Thunderbolt visually over a Mustang (another pure and sleek design, no doubt). I guess I'm a radial engine guy.




 I really should have insisted on  you seeing this fellow when you visited, alas the time just wasn't  there.

(https://i.imgur.com/nc1NHJt.jpg)   

I dig this one though...........
(https://i.imgur.com/DXNwh4b.jpg) 


 My '64 did arrive, it's a road warrior for sure, broken headstock and heavily check'd. Absolute dream to play, best neck on any bass I own, and that pickup! It's cranked down flush with the ring and still has this great voice. Now that I own one I think Gibson was way ahead of it's time with this bass, it is of course beautifully flawed with the frail headstock, no surprise that so many are broken. This thing just has an amazing voice even with a set of somewhat dead nickel rounds on it, my one regret is not buying one many years ago, it's just that good to my hands and ears.

   (https://i.imgur.com/s2ebEl0.jpg)



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2022, 11:15:53 AM
Razorback T-Bolts and Corsairs just look magnificent, true WW II fighter porn! Squeeze me 'til the kerosene runs down my legs, baby!

That chick with the battered Bird II ain't bad either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2022, 09:40:51 AM
The Oils are back to form! Agit-prop rock never had better melodies/harmonies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWgesOsL2dA

If you are wondering where the/a bassist went: They lost Bones Hillman, their longstanding bassist, to cancer in late 2020, he is still credited as playing bass on the new album ('RESIST') where this track is from (which might then also still feature him, sure sounds like him, pick-played bass marching stiffly ahead of the beat  :) ), but they obviously couldn't bring it over themselves to have someone else play bass for him in the video. Instead they - poignantly - left his bass on a stand in the vid.

(https://www.imago-images.de/bild/st/0106060820/w.jpg)

Let's not have a Fender cancel culture here, ok:

(https://www.notreble.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Bones-Hillman.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 13, 2022, 02:23:09 PM
I think Bones logged more time on the P-bass than the Bird.
CENSORED BY UWE - HIGH COMMISSIONER OF THE GIBSON MINISTRY OF TRUTH
I loved his playing, and he added such a great lift to their vocal harmonies, so many great parts after he joined.
Check out this version of Hercules with previous bassist Peter Gifford:
https://youtu.be/hih--64WkK0

Compared to this one with Bones ... poor mix but his beautiful high notes cut through:
https://youtu.be/jCeqitANuNc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2022, 03:29:37 PM
Yup, he sings the falsetto parts well. Maybe he was hoping to join the Eagles as replacement of ole Timothy?  ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZnfqERQiU


Yeah, sure, Timothy recorded all his vocal parts with the perfectionist Eagles while he was playing bass at the same time.  :mrgreen:

Immaculate 'less is more' solos by Don Felder.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2022, 04:22:38 PM
I know. Total heresy for Walsh fans. But I really dug this line-up. And not just as a Tommy Bolin fan boy, I liked the singer's voice, Roy Kenner. Ironically, he is the guy that puts many people off with the Bolin- and Domenic Troiano Gang line-ups. I never got that, to me he has a very American sounding (he's a Canuck) Doobie Brothers style "essentially smooth, but with some grit" voice. I think that fitted well with the Gang's style, they weren't exactly early Grand Funk Railroad in heaviness, you know. (And Walsh's nasal organ - which I like - didn't sing from the heavy rock hymn sheet either.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qh_xJO8yBY

It's criminal that no remastered boxed set of the whole of the James Gang's work exists.

I even liked the post-Bolin stuff even though that was even Doobie'isher, the then-vocalist reminded me of Ted Nugent alumni Derek St. Holmes a bit ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrE3zdkH_ag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuWT-jwYEkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vhg0G0cHA0

That was a good line-up. Which cannot be said of their last album "Jesse Come Home", where they really crapped out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doiuh49p5D0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmQlSbuQv-0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 13, 2022, 07:59:48 PM
Roy Kenner had a good stage presence and he is definitely a better singer than Joe Walsh.  Walsh got where he did from his guitar playing and songwriting ability.  I would love to buy a remastered James Gang boxed set, too.  But I suspect as time has gone by their reputation has lost some of its luster.  It would be my guess that the demand for that probably wouldn't be very great.  It's a shame, though.  As a band they were unique, regardless of all the different line-ups.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2022, 09:50:45 AM
I always wonder why that is - Funk #49 and Walk Away are classic rock staples and played at nearly every Eagles mega gig to this day, by now I wouldn't be surprised if most of the audience think they are Eagles songs! Walsh had a more than respectable solo career himself (with Rocky Mountain Way & Life's Been Good further Eagles live staples today) before getting his wings from Frey and Henley.  Domenic Troiano came from the Guess Who, Bolin was this guitar Wunderkind who shone bright, albeit fleetingly, but his DP tenure + dying at 25 (and thus not even a member of the 27 Club) added some star drama - so why not put their nine albums in a box (10 if you add the Live in Concert album with Joe Walsh)?  Hey, even Grand Funk Railroad had a boxed set treatment and James Gang were never as despised by critics. (Not knocking GFR, I like'm.)

Plus they played at Bill Clinton's inauguration (for the last time I believe).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaQRYc5Mpkk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2022, 11:44:13 AM
I'm surprised he rated the first album as the best.  But that's fine.  That's also the only James Gang album with a Gibson bass.  That guy is a very good reviewer.  I also agreed with much of what he said about Golden Earring albums.  But even Golden Earring (which some people think only did two songs) probably gets more attention than the James Gang.  But I probably wouldn't have liked them so much myself if I hadn't been given the opportunity to see them live.  I'm not sure if I have a favorite James Gang album; I like all of them.  Bolin was their best guitarist, IMO.  Of course, Joe Walsh was probably the most creative member.  Nothing against the Eagles.  I like them.  But if I had the choice of seeing a James Gang reunion of Joe Walsh, Jim Fox and Dale Peters or the Eagles, I'd choose the JG. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2022, 12:29:02 PM
In the tranquil sea of stern perfection that is the Eagles live, Joe is the only semi-spontaneous factor. That said, I always thought Don Felder's solos more notable, but Joe's a character.

I'd never go as far as to say that Bolin was a better guitarist than Walsh, there was just was something very "gentle artist soul" to Tommy whereas Joe worked his "guy next door" image.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gns3r1Rwgy0&t=245s

Looking at Tommy with his green highlights and Jim Fox sitting side by side (both with hats, but not making quite the same fashion statement!  ;D ), you do get the impression that a paradise bird like the kid from Sioux City/Boulder and the down to earth Jim (an avid license plate collector) weren't really made to last a lifetime together. Bolin had drug issues already back then, he dragged them into any band he joined.

I was (pleasantly) surprised myself about how high Pete Pardo (an extremely amiable man, combining all the nicest imaginable US-American traits, he can't be real!) ranked "Bang" too, you tend to think that any other JG line-up is overshadowed by the Walsh era. But I've noticed that over the decades, Bolin's stature has grown - I remember people considering "Bang" underwhelming and DP's "Come Taste The Band" utter crap - these days no one dares say a bad word about these albums, and quite rightly so.

This track (which certainly has Bolin's voice mixed in with Kenner's) and the orchestral arrangement alone ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVIVosV6MOE

At 3:06 you do wonder whether someone with Fleetwood Mac had been listening to the James Gang release (from 1973) when they wrote The Chain in 1976! It has that mood.

Of course I came in the wrong way: The first albums of the James Gang I heard were Bang and Miami im 1976 (yes, the Purple connection, I admit it), then Newborn. I heard my first James Gang track with Joe Walsh more than a decade later!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2022, 02:15:11 PM
I think most people do associate Joe Walsh with the James Gang.  I heard that the only reason the band played in this location was because so many fans were disappointed about Joe Walsh leaving.  They were asking for refunds, etc.  So that's how at least some of the gigs moved south (like here) to venues that were considered less desirable as opposed to the more prominent original northern cities. 

I wouldn't want to criticize Joe Walsh as a singer or guitarist.  Obviously, the Eagles thought very highly of him or he wouldn't be with them in the first place.  But it's hard to ignore Tommy Bolin's guitar playing.  Here is a quote from Loudersound------


The early 1970s was a great time for guitar heroes. Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton and their peers were at the top of their game, but most adhered to a style rooted in the blues. Moreover, in the wake of Jimi Hendrix’s death, almost all the six-string gods came from England.

American Tommy Bolin, a native of Sioux City, Iowa, was a notable exception. Best described as the David Bowie of the guitar, Bolin jumped from one playing style to the next – making each one his own, before quickly discarding it for the next.

Glenn Hughes, Bolin’s one-time bandmate in Deep Purple, agrees with this assessment. “Tommy was different, wasn’t he?” he says. “He had a very South American-flavoured, Brazilian, reggae-ish way of playing guitar; it wasn’t European. It was be-boppy, it was jazz, it was everything Deep Purple weren’t. He was a genius.”


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2022, 04:09:39 PM
You're thoroughly endearing yourself to me!  :-*

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ff/3c/c4/ff3cc46e99147903f4793ac1202a097b--tommy-dreamer-tommy-bolin.jpg)

Walsh joining The Eagles was  more of a corporate move, they both had Irving Azoff as their manager and the unpronounceable Bill Szymczyk as their producer, things just fitted, Walsh's career had peaked, the Eagles wanted someone who stopped reminding them sour-facedly of their Bluegrass roots while "One Of These Nights" was doing brisk business in discos.

I remember that Walsh replacing someone like Bernie Leadon (of all people!) was seen as an incongruous, even cynical move at the time, much like Tommy Bolin showing up in the Purple camp. When the new Eagles line-up toured for the first time, the NME lambasted them for incorporating James Gang and Walsh songs into their set along the lines of: "With all the criticism heaped on them lately of selling out, the Eagles seem to have become oversensitive and want to prove they can actually ROCK. So halfway into the set, they turn up the volume and play an extended version of Rocky Mountain Way with screaming guitars followed by even more Joe Walsh hard rock tunes which go straight over the heads of their audience which came to hear the lush harmonies of Take It Easy, Take It To The Limit and Lyin' Eyes. The kids don't know what to make of it and are visibly relieved when the band returns to Eagles hits towards the end of the set."

I guess over time, the Walsh/Eagles combo worked out fine, but it shouldn't be forgotten that he was only on two of their 70ies albums, Hotel California and the already shaky The Long Run. The body of their work was recorded with Bernie Leadon (first two albums) or Bernie Leadon/Don Felder (who joined around On The Border to rock things up a little) on lead guitar. Glenn Frey always saw his guitarist role in the Eagles as in a John Lennon vein though he played some solos early on.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2022, 06:28:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9tcMqHlKgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqNRSBLAKI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2022, 06:30:17 PM
The blueprint for Van Halen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPE_HZ-rvGQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2022, 06:39:41 PM
I can remember when I first heard Joe Walsh was in the Eagles.  My reaction was a gigantic, WTF?  I went for years mentally having a very hard time accepting it.  The reason was, as you've already stated, because of how incongruous it all seemed.  Certainly, Joe Walsh proved himself over and over in the Eagles.  But seeing him up there on stage is like looking at a child who doesn't even remotely look like either parent.  Joe Walsh has done great with the Eagles.  But to me even to this day he has more of a James Gang vibe to him.  Like I said, I would love to see a Jim Fox, Joe Walsh and Dale Peters reunion.  That's the classic line-up, and also one I never had the pleasure of seeing in person.   

As for Tommy Bolin, I'm glad people like Pete Pardo are giving him the credit he deserves.  This is what I just ordered--


A very special deluxe edition of the 1969 recorded debut of guitar legend Tommy Bolin (Deep Purple/James Gang) performing with his first major act, the blues rock outfit Zephyr - now available in a sleek 6-panel digipak configuration!Newly remixed and remastered audio created under the supervision of founding member David Givens and with 2 bonus discs of never-before-heard live material and studio improvisations!Includes liner notes filled with stories and memories written by Givens. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 14, 2022, 10:32:17 PM
As an aside, that was Zephyr that opened up for Jimi Hendrix at the Denver Pop Festival in 1969.  I've come across a fair amount of info about this festival from time to time while reading biographies of Hendrix.  There were some serious problems with crowd control toward the end.  Also, this was Noel Redding's last performance with the JHE. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 02:35:22 AM
Leadon wasn't really a rock guitarist - that's why they got Don Felder (who had played with Leadon pre-Eagles) who was -, but I liked his "various stringed instruments"-contributions to the Eagles. Kind of like Brian Jones to the early Stones. I identified him with the - all fake, I know - Native American mystique of the earlier Eagles and one of his last contributions to the band is a work of timeless art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZdZKolMIl0


For me, One Of These Nights (the album) is the pinnacle of their work, not Hotel California (the album). Some of the detail and depth in their music went missing upon the departure of Leadon. That is not to say that Walsh didn't bring anything to the Eagles, but what he brought wasn't as fine art as what Leadon took with him. Hotel California's mammoth sales were not unwarranted, but it's not as eclectic - yet still out of one mold - an album as One Of These Nights. I would have liked to have heard what Leadon would have added to Hotel California (the track), essentially a Don Felder number with Don Henley's lyrics.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 15, 2022, 07:37:41 AM
I grew up listening to my sisters' albums (many of which were left at the house by male friends), and in the 70s, that made for an interesting listening experience for 9 year old me (Edgar Winter's White Trash? Sure!). One of those albums was the James Gang - 16 Greatest Hits, a double LP that I'm pretty sure was all Walsh era. I totally dug it, and a few years later, when I had started playing bass, I pulled that record out and found some great bass lines to learn. The stuff still holds up.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 07:50:54 AM
This thread has made me make good on my past sins: I have now enlarged my James Gang collection to the Walsh and Troiano years too. I only had some tracks from those eras on a compilation double CD from Repertoire Records.

Of course I have Bang and Miami several times over in various remasters - you know me ...  :mrgreen:

Dale Peters never really played anything technically challenging on bass, but he was melodic and catchy, I liked that. I was thankful being able to replicate some of his bass lines in my early years as a bassist. Like the Do It riff ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIu7k7yORs8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 08:10:10 AM
Just got the CD with the Troiano stuff, my gosh, I had no idea ... for a bunch of white-breads it's funky like Trapeze!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKKgRSpgjOY

Me like lots.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xm8AbjNSIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qxJd5uyOo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on March 15, 2022, 09:01:10 AM
The blueprint for Van Halen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPE_HZ-rvGQ
   

 I think I bought that album3-4 times, it kept getting swiped! That was what a hard rock record was supposed to be - I loved it then and still do today. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 09:12:40 AM
Those guys were a great combination - but Montrose being the difficult chap he is ...  :rolleyes: He should have kicked himself for ever letting Hagar go.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 09:25:43 AM
Witness one half of the James Gang some years later with some more, uhum, danceable music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Z0gGOAJKQ

I wouldn't have recognized Roy Kenner visually without his James Gang beard, but that voice ... And even discofied, the music retains a Doobie Bros quality. That's Domenic Troiano playing guitar.

Interesting insights from Kenner on funking up the James Gang:

https://www.troianomusic.com/kenner.html

"There was a show that they did there for Murray the K, and there were all kinds of acts on the same bill, like Clapton, The Who, The Rascals, on and on. Everybody did 2 or 3 tunes. That's where they met Clapton. So he came in and sat in and played half a set with us. It turned out that the guys in the James Gang were in the audience, so that's where they had seen Domenic and myself live. When Joe decided to leave the James Gang, they got a hold of Donnie, but they weren't exactly thrilled with his vocals, relative to what they were doing, so they wanted to know what I was doing. He came back and said, "You wanna audition for the James Gang?," and I said, "Well, I'm not doin' nothin,' why not?" He ended up facilitating my entrance into that thing, too. So we were kind of joined at the hip for a long time, or as we liked to say in hindsight, going around ruining good rock bands and trying to turn them into R&B bands.

Donnie really worked hard at his craft. He was always trying to learn new stuff and was always growing musically, and he would take that wherever he went. He had a pretty "nose to the grindstone" kind of work ethic, and that could drive some people a little bit crazy if they weren't used to doing that. Jimmy and Dale were not the most rehearsingest guys on the planet, and I gather that there was a little bit of friction between he and Burton Cummings, because you've got two pretty strong egos at work there creatively. I guess they bumped heads a little bit, but I think there was still a lot of mutual respect there, too.

The label didn't really seem to give a flying f*** [about the direction of the band]. We never really heard much flak from the record company about that, but Jimmy and Dale were not predominantly writers. Joe did most of the writing in the band. We did, in hindsight, probably f*** with the sound a little bit more than we should've. Even Jimmy and Dale would say, "You know, this is very R&B." A few people that followed our careers that listened to it afterwards said, "Well, you almost turned them into Bush!" At the time, you're young, you're full of piss and vinegar, and you figure that this is the stuff you like and here's an opportunity to do it. This is something that Donnie and I discussed years later. I said, "We really shouldn't have screwed around with it as much as we did. We probably should've adapted a little bit more to it." After Donnie and I took a break from each other... he left and I stayed, because I kind of liked what Tommy Bolin was doing. If Donnie and I had been a little bit more flexible and open-minded, we would have, if we were smart, come up with an album for Straight Shooter that was more along the lines of what we ended up doing on Gang Bang, which was unfortunately a couple years later. I think we probably should have leaned more towards a rockier sound to what we were doing. But no, we had to be R&B!"
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 15, 2022, 10:18:47 AM
I wouldn't recognize anyone, even though I've seen Domenic Troiano up close.  He died in 2005.  Dom's brother, btw, has some comments under that video in case anyone wants to read through those. 

As for the Eagles, I've seen several interviews with Don Felder.  I think most of that writing of "Hotel California" was spontaneous.  Don  Henley wanted to keep the original guitar solo note for note.  Felder fully agreed that Henley should sing the song.  BTW, I personally really like the "Desperado" album, too.  Singing to the vocals is a great way to warm up your voice, back when I took that kind of thing more seriously.  Great respect to all the Eagles when it comes to their vocal talents. 

*I've just now seen the comments by Kenner.  I agree with him that they could have done things with a "rockier" sound.  In other words, Straight Shooter being more like Bang would have obviously been a good thing.  I'm actually listening to "Bang" at this very moment.  It's just a personal choice, but I like "Miami" as much as or probably even more than "Bang." 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 12:58:02 PM
Bang has more enthusiasm/energy performance-wise. Miami already sounds like the sparks didn't quite fly anymore. But the songs aren't bad at all! It has real moments, like Peters' creamy fuzz bass on Sleepwalker. As everyone here knows, I'm no great fan of distorted bass, but on that song and with that production I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4zdoENrbM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 15, 2022, 04:28:14 PM
I like "Do It" a lot from the Miami album, but I'm having trouble posting it. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
It already has, scroll back a bit! That song even saw a bit of airplay on AFN (American Forces Network) in Germany. I remember being startled when I all of the sudden heard it in the radio after I had bought the album already a while before. I was probably the only person in Germany who owned a copy!

Fun trivia fact: The James Gang Bang (such witty wordsmiths!) cover features the headless body of Domenic Troiano (Bolin's predecessor) on the far right, but with the face of (apparently leering) Tommy superimposed. That shot dated back to the Troiano line-up and as they were in a rush to release Bang they had to make do.

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/MHGkCotyGDp8cEHqvUSFeH-1200-80.jpg.webp)

By today's standards that cover wasn't in good taste. Actually not even by the standards of 1973.  ;D I always thought it devalued the album. And if groupie lore is to be believed then Tommy's delicate features and his general soft-spoken demeanor did not really force him to rely on "gang bang sharing".  8)

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3b/f8/6a/3bf86aa8c197653bb69a9805018f6ad7--tommy-bolin-first-love.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 15, 2022, 08:22:45 PM
That cover is so small on the CD I have, you can barely even tell what it is.  It appears that really doesn't matter, though.  On mine, though, there is that cover, the Miami cover and something else in the background.  My CD is the Bang and Miami albums on one disc.  I just looked at it and as I suspected this is from the UK. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2022, 05:20:52 AM
Yup, that is a gentle, but good remaster of the two Bolin era releases on one CD from the BGO label, I have that too. Before that came out some years ago, there were only the original dull-sounding Atco CD releases as well as some limited quantity loudness war-boosted CD-Rs from the Tommy Bolin Archives, no idea how legal these were, they have over the years decayed to non-playability in any case (the fate of all CD-Rs).

But whether on vinyl or CD, Bang was for whatever reason always the more energetic, ballsy production (in so far the Gang was indeed back with a BANG!). Miami sounds laid-backish - I guess the recording location left a mark! And/or Bolin's galloping drug habit, by that time he wasn't very happy with the James Gang anymore.  :-\

The first song I heard from Bang (or indeed from the James Gang who meant nothing to me then) was this one - at that point I wasn't even aware of the Purple connection via Bolin (I wasn't yet a Purple fan, would you believe?), but I liked the track with the wordy lyrics and Roy Kenner's Elvis impressions at 01:44. The slide intro was Bolin at his best (panned from left to right and then right to left, I like silly stereo stuff like that  :mrgreen: ), there was this cool funk part in the middle of it (2:07, sounds like a Come Taste The Band outtake!) and the whole song was pleasantly lively and full of joyous energy - thinking about it, that is exactly what Miami lacks, it doesn't sound like they had fun anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0-Z_pMK3Is
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2022, 11:38:08 AM
Most people I'm around focus mostly on the first three albums.  I agree, though, that they're all good.  I tended to focus more on the "Straight Shooter/"Passin' Thru" era because that's when I saw the James Gang in person.  Looking at things objectively, Bang and Miami receive more and more attention simply because it's natural to want to listen to Bolin's playing more closely.  I've never been able to find that live album.  I missed the time period when finding it on CD would have been easy.  That can be said about many CDs now, no matter who the artist. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2022, 03:29:55 PM
The James Gang Live in Concert album from Carnegie Hall? That is still readily available in the US.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154889465742?hash=item241021af8e:g:~~EAAOSwh5RiJ8bW

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325088746513?epid=3116222&hash=item4bb0cc9c11:g:YwQAAOSwm0FiJgT3

By nature, the Walsh era stuff always had better availability than the line-ups that followed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2022, 06:35:24 PM
Thanks, but I've had too many negative experiences with ebay in the past to try to use them anymore.  I would if I could.  In general, Walsh era CDs are the easiest to find, but not in this case. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2022, 06:42:37 PM
And Jeff is also blacklisted with you?  ;)

https://www.amazon.com/Live-Concert-James-Gang/dp/B000002R47/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3S5ZD3AN50GX3&keywords=james+gang+live+in+concert&qid=1647481251&sprefix=james+gang+live+in+concert%2Caps%2C300&sr=8-1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2022, 07:14:02 PM
Won't pass the "real country" test here, I know, but still ... I guess it's Bob Seger'ish, not a bad thing in my book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_5amhiCyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw93Lg4NPNE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2022, 08:51:48 PM
And Jeff is also blacklisted with you?  ;)

https://www.amazon.com/Live-Concert-James-Gang/dp/B000002R47/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3S5ZD3AN50GX3&keywords=james+gang+live+in+concert&qid=1647481251&sprefix=james+gang+live+in+concert%2Caps%2C300&sr=8-1

Unfortunately, at this point in time, yes.  Years ago a hacker got into my Amazon account.  I haven't used Amazon since.  I've had computer experts come over from time to time.  The consensus among them is that I've been mixed up with someone else.  It's possible they think I'm a business.  However, I am thinking of trying to get my sister to order that CD for me.  Anyway, the Amazon problem was even worse than the ebay one for me. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 16, 2022, 08:57:48 PM
Won't pass the "real country" test here, I know, but still ... I guess it's Bob Seger'ish, not a bad thing in my book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_5amhiCyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw93Lg4NPNE

That may not pass Dave's country test, but I'll agree that's not bad.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 16, 2022, 11:41:45 PM
Of course it's not country, but it's all right. The boy can sing and play.

Meanwhile, I've been listening to the huge dump of 78s from Mark Lee Allen on YT. Some unfamiliar names, some songs I've never heard from names I do know, and then there are old favorites like this.

https://youtu.be/juy95Jkdk7c

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 17, 2022, 12:05:57 AM
I looked this up just now.  That song was in the movie "The Girl Can't Help It."  The movie had a  satirical subplot involving teenagers and rock 'n' roll music.[3] The unintended result has been called the "most potent" celebration of rock music ever captured on film.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2022, 03:57:54 AM
Hey, even I know that one!

Fats is a recurring theme with Herr Westheimer. Notable for the fact that it is piano driven music which normally doesn't rate that high with him, am I right?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 17, 2022, 07:57:51 AM
I looked this up just now.  That song was in the movie "The Girl Can't Help It."  The movie had a  satirical subplot involving teenagers and rock 'n' roll music.[3] The unintended result has been called the "most potent" celebration of rock music ever captured on film.

LOL. It was a third rate gangster comedy to showcase the talents of Jayne Mansfield, although talent and Jayne Mansfield really don't belong in the same sentence. Oh well, she did give us Mariska Hargitay. But it did have a lot of good rock and pop acts.

Fats' performance in the movie.

https://youtu.be/j4ybML-C6Go
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 17, 2022, 08:00:38 AM
Hey, even I know that one!

Fats is a recurring theme with Herr Westheimer. Notable for the fact that it is piano driven music which normally doesn't rate that high with him, am I right?

Piano and horns drove a lot of early r&r. Little Richard, Larry Williams, Lloyd Price etc. And then there was Jerry Lee Lewis.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2022, 08:07:30 AM
although talent and Jayne Mansfield really don't belong in the same sentence.

How needlessly cruel you are, Dave. I thought she was versatile

(https://www.imago-images.de/bild/st/0106998176/s.jpg)

and had real peaks in her illustrious career.

(https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/5878829a/ff3f50fd/Shutterstock_5878829a.jpg)

PS: I'm sure she is not holding above that cooking pan what I think she's holding ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 17, 2022, 08:35:39 AM
Of course it's not country, but it's all right. The boy can sing and play.

Meanwhile, I've been listening to the huge dump of 78s from Mark Lee Allen on YT. Some unfamiliar names, some songs I've never heard from names I do know, and then there are old favorites like this.

https://youtu.be/juy95Jkdk7c

Dave, if someone has put a bunch of 78s online, did they say anything about resolving rights for them?

I have a couple of big boxes of 78s that I'd love to put online (some of them dating back to the 20s,) but resolving the rights is an impossible task.  I'd be willing to preserve them by putting them online if I didn't have to worry about lawsuits.  I waver back and forth about whether that's likely to happen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2022, 09:15:37 AM
I remember 78s! My parents had a few dozen, my favourite ones as a kid were these two here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXTVQNvigDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTt4y8MhyxA


Weirdly, they both dealt with sunken ships. I'm not a maritime person at all, we didn't even live remotely close to a beach!  :mrgreen: "Geisterschiff" means ghost ship.

"Stan Oliver", as you might have guessed, wasn't a real name, it was the moniker an Amercian opera singer working in Germany named Kieth Engen (from Irazee, Minnesota, would you believe?) used for his secret Schlager career. Hired by the Bavarian State Opera, he was not allowed to record "silly stuff" under his real name. You can hear on the recording that he has a classically trained voice. Amazingly, he doesn't even have the slightest trace of a Yank accent, they must have beaten that out of him during his classical training (he had Norwegian, not German ancestors, in case you wondered).


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 17, 2022, 01:13:44 PM
LOL. It was a third rate gangster comedy to showcase the talents of Jayne Mansfield, although talent and Jayne Mansfield really don't belong in the same sentence. Oh well, she did give us Mariska Hargitay. But it did have a lot of good rock and pop acts.

Fats' performance in the movie.

https://youtu.be/j4ybML-C6Go

But that song is one of the best representatives from its genre that anyone would be able to find.  A killer song. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2022, 01:59:15 PM
Bare-chested and naked men working out, in showers and with sauna infusions, and still people thought Rob liked women? Talk about videos of revelatory nature. :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxV7GTbqC10
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 17, 2022, 09:33:43 PM
Dave, if someone has put a bunch of 78s online, did they say anything about resolving rights for them?

I have a couple of big boxes of 78s that I'd love to put online (some of them dating back to the 20s,) but resolving the rights is an impossible task.  I'd be willing to preserve them by putting them online if I didn't have to worry about lawsuits.  I waver back and forth about whether that's likely to happen.

I have three online friends (including Mark) who are vintage record collectors with thousands of records, they've been putting records from their own collections on YT for years (45s and 78s) from their collections without incident, by taking a photo of the actual record. This apparently satisfies YT that they own a physical copy of the music and that seems to be good enough.

I could ask, if you'd like.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 17, 2022, 10:15:08 PM

Muse's latest song.  Not great, but maybe a little better than usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP3zRBtgvJo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on March 19, 2022, 10:25:57 AM
Bare-chested and naked men working out, in showers and with sauna infusions, and still people thought Rob liked women? Talk about videos of revelatory nature. :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxV7GTbqC10
   


 oh! Who dropped the soap?! I'll get it!  :gay:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 03:56:22 AM
Cliff "root note ain't a bad place to be" Williams with some tasty introspective playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEgg7cNHm6I


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 04:14:33 AM
In our largely ignored, yet continuing series of "obscure and uncool AOR bands no one gives a rat's ass about" meet Stingray!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3mmtizinE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgaTy8MJ9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAMYVyIZ72I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgZobq2RTWg

They hailed from South Africa in the late 70ies, I remember their debut album getting a gushing review in one of the teen rock mags I read at the time (I always wanted to buy that album, but never got round to, in 2021 it was finally released on CD). They swam in that no man's land between Starcastle, Toto (like them they had two keyboarders in the line-up), Styx, Kansas and Boston, but even poppier (vocals are a bit too dominant in the mix, I come from the Deep Purple school of production where the vocals are just another color, not overshadowing everything else). Their songwriting is lauded to this day in AOR circles. Of course (and understandably so), being from South Africa (with no musical ethno content whatsoever, they could have just as well been from the Midwest or the UK) at the height of that vile system called Apartheid doomed any semblance of an international career.

Anybody here ever heard of'em? They should have fared better.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 05:12:24 AM
Deutsche Dööbie Brüder, not everything was Kraftwerk, you know.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k1zqMiQW8o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 05:22:18 AM
Raunchy Rick, very cool (the guy was 72 at this particular gig!), with some unknown guy who wrote the song for him at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enFXWSiLfXM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 06:41:39 AM
Muse's latest song.  Not great, but maybe a little better than usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP3zRBtgvJo

UK with Jobson/Wetton (the keyboard riff) and Level 42 (the verse) had a rompin' one-night-stand!  :mrgreen: The keyboard riff sounds like something you can neither count out nor dance to, Tom will be rapturous no doubt (once he is through with that Adam Clayton "Tricks of the Trade" instruction vid, that is)!

It's well done. I guess I'm not too crazy about the singer. But in this day and age, it at least dares to be different. "Organic" is not the first thing that would cross my mind upon hearing it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 21, 2022, 10:02:05 AM
UK with Jobson/Wetton (the keyboard riff) and Level 42 (the verse) had a rompin' one-night-stand!  :mrgreen: The keyboard riff sounds like something you can neither count out nor dance to, Tom will be rapturous no doubt (once he is through with that Adam Clayton "Tricks of the Trade" instruction vid, that is)!

It's well done. I guess I'm not too crazy about the singer. But in this day and age, it at least dares to be different. "Organic" is not the first thing that would cross my mind upon hearing it.

Of course I used to like Muse quite a lot.  Then, as I've noted in other posts, their music took a sharp downturn.  By 2018 with their last album, it was so bad I couldn't even listen to it.  I could only listen to the last album "Simulation Theory" one time.  So, when I heard this new song, I was a little surprised.  Although it is not a great song, either, at least I could tolerate it.  I wasn't quite expecting that.  I'm not sure if Muse have ever been organic, though.  Whatever their thing is, I wouldn't say it's that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 10:35:33 AM
Not all music needs to be. Nothing wrong with cerebral if you don't think too much about it.

Shouldn't you like this then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeboHGRHlW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E1-TsfaeMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5RgSPU3B4


Fast forward a couple of decades, they've still got it (and why have a small drum kit when you can have one filling half the stage?) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj3Wc-1n6Mg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 21, 2022, 11:16:48 AM
That's really good, especially "Nothing to Lose."  They weren't very well known in the U.S.  Both of their albums are late 70s that sound more like early to mid-80s to me. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2022, 02:42:47 PM
The blueprint for ASIA, minus the overt PROGisms.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 21, 2022, 09:57:38 PM
Asia.  The band so good they named a continent after it. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2022, 03:46:25 AM
Some self-delusion there - they went from just 'UK' to 'Asia', what would have been next? 'World', 'Galaxy' or 'Universe'?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 22, 2022, 05:08:08 AM
Universe was a band from Cardiff.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/1625226-Universe-13
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 22, 2022, 08:05:59 AM
I just listened to the Muse track for a second time. I still find them in the "trying new things I don't care for, or re-hashing their past" mode. I didn't buy Simulation Theory, and I've only listened to Drones a few times. They've pretty much lost me, but it's normal for me, even with my favorite bands, to only really love a certain era or specific albums. Absolution, Black Holes, and the Resistance are great. I also like the 2nd Law, but that's where I started to see cracks on the wall.

UK is an all time favorite band of mine. ASIA was a massive disappointment for me, but I'm glad John finally made some money and became a real star. My band is doing Wildest Dreams at our next gig to fill some time.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 22, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
Some self-delusion there - they went from just 'UK' to 'Asia', what would have been next? 'World', 'Galaxy' or 'Universe'?

The joke came from a very loyal Asia fan who was using hyperbole to show he thinks the band is way underrated.  I don't look at it as a bad thing to be very loyal to a band.  In fact, I think it's good, although I don't just have one band I focus on myself. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 22, 2022, 10:15:42 AM
I just listened to the Muse track for a second time. I still find them in the "trying new things I don't care for, or re-hashing their past" mode. I didn't buy Simulation Theory, and I've only listened to Drones a few times. They've pretty much lost me, but it's normal for me, even with my favorite bands, to only really love a certain era or specific albums. Absolution, Black Holes, and the Resistance are great. I also like the 2nd Law, but that's where I started to see cracks on the wall.

UK is an all time favorite band of mine. ASIA was a massive disappointment for me, but I'm glad John finally made some money and became a real star. My band is doing Wildest Dreams at our next gig to fill some time.  8)

As far as I'm concerned, everything you said about Muse is 100% accurate. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2022, 11:02:02 AM
I just listened to the Muse track for a second time. I still find them in the "trying new things I don't care for, or re-hashing their past" mode. I didn't buy Simulation Theory, and I've only listened to Drones a few times. They've pretty much lost me, but it's normal for me, even with my favorite bands, to only really love a certain era or specific albums. Absolution, Black Holes, and the Resistance are great. I also like the 2nd Law, but that's where I started to see cracks on the wall.

UK is an all time favorite band of mine. ASIA was a massive disappointment for me, but I'm glad John finally made some money and became a real star. My band is doing Wildest Dreams at our next gig to fill some time.  8)

It was our alumni John Fertig/Barkless Dog who once wrote about Asia: thinking man's Air Supply.  :rimshot: That was mean, but apt.

Not that there is too much wrong about Air Supply. Great balladeers, bad perms, questionable shirts & flawlessly executed, dramatic ritardandos & "tweak the chorus" key changes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY31ZH6hAFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdZEumNRmI

Isn't it weird to see a leftie chording*** as at the start of the last video? I have real issues "reading and translating" those chords. I've never played with a leftie guitarist in the band.

*** Oh now I get it, he's a lefty who strings righty, that's why I was lost!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 22, 2022, 12:34:25 PM
There are bands out there that some people seem to think are too pop to take seriously.  That's understandable.  But when you've got bands with vocals as good as this, I would be hesitant to be critical.  Maybe that isn't my preference in music, but women tend to like this kind of stuff.  If you're going to bother being in a band, it seems taking that into consideration might make some sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_BhryXKZ8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2022, 02:24:10 PM
Hey, that was the cover of a German hit!

Jennifer Rush (real name Heidi Stern) was born NYC (Queens), but had German roots. Her dad was an opera singer, her mom a classical pianist, the family lived in Germany for a few years (where her father found a job as an opera singer, he didn't want to raise kids in NYC). She returned to the US, but would come back to Germany (her brother had stayed there and had found a career as a musician/producer too) and that is where her career took off. And this was her signature song (you can tell by her characteristic vibrrrato what daddy's occupation was):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_zHQ6kFuQ0

That song - not a bad number and co-written by her -  was played to death in the 80ies of course and not only Air Supply picked up on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvGWZm34Ct8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8HOfcYWZoo

I think I like Laura's version best. But you'd have to be deaf to claim that Jennifer, Celine and Russell didn't do the song justice as well.

So now we've come from the arcane U.K. to the more mundane popular The Power Of Love in the course of a few postings - only here at the legendary LBO, where we stay on track like a spinning top!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/bc/69/73bc69cf9ac010bbb628986ea215b764.gif)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 22, 2022, 05:16:23 PM
Always on track, that's us!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJRHm4fZgio

(Hey, this is worth watching....there's ONE Big Boy steam locomotive still running.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 22, 2022, 05:40:46 PM
I wouldn't want to be on a panel judging those different versions of "The Power of Love."  They're all really good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2022, 04:20:59 AM
Always on track, that's us!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJRHm4fZgio

(Hey, this is worth watching....there's ONE Big Boy steam locomotive still running.)

Oh my, steamy phallic locomotives in tunnel scenes, Wild West scenery ... WHAT IS THIS PLACE?! As gay as a shower room full of cowboys!  :gay:

I watched The Power of the Dog last night on netflix. An elegy on a dying Wild West, sibling rivalry, missing father figures that are still omnipresent, unhealthy mother/son relationships and coming out when you really couldn't. Great movie.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 23, 2022, 09:34:15 AM
Witty repartee, LBO style.....

"Is that a toy locomotive in your pocket, or is that your Big Boy..?"
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2022, 10:00:08 AM
If only Coverdale had sung it. Sykes and him might have hated each other's guts at one point, but as that latter day pop hair metal era of Whitesnake goes, they were a match made in heaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A816Rcqmgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmxK9CS3RV0

Good trio too. I like Appice's drumming and stage demeanor.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2022, 03:50:48 AM
I liked it when she still drummed and sang. Had more of a band feel.

https://youtu.be/-XYBj0J99i8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 24, 2022, 05:42:13 AM
I still can't find the exact source, so you have to be careful about assuming anything.  But supposedly Paul McCartney once said Karen Carpenter had the best female voice in the world. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2022, 10:18:23 AM
She and Rumer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqnTf9etEYg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 24, 2022, 11:37:20 AM
If only Coverdale had sung it. Sykes and him might have hated each other's guts at one point, but as that latter day pop hair metal era of Whitesnake goes, they were a match made in heaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A816Rcqmgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmxK9CS3RV0

Good trio too. I like Appice's drumming and stage demeanor.

That first Blue Murder album really showed that Whitesnake 1987 was more a Sykes album than a Coverdale album.
All the nonsense that the Coverdale camp said about Sykes's guitar parts being out of tune and not good for the songs. Some even claimed Dan Huff had to be called to the rescue to re-do all the guitar parts.
The album has Sykes written all over it (nobody was as "pinch harmonies happy" as Sykes back then (yet))

I do like the Blue Murder album better.
It is more playful and fun.
Even if the lyrics are a bit questionable here and there (Jelly Roll, Sex Child... ???)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2022, 12:23:00 PM
Not that David Coverdale would ever be guilty of questionable or mono-themed lyrics!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv09V1lom5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFS-91Qhwdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb1Qewmzm7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIllOcB5zfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAX8lXM3Prw

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Whitesnake_-_Lovehunter.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/610xEFEiZcS._SY355_.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c8/Whitesnake-saints.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 24, 2022, 12:29:13 PM
You forgot Slide It In.
And Spit It Out  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2022, 12:44:04 PM
I wasn't done yet ... There is no lack of material.

He just never grew up. Forever caught in that adolescent netherworld ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nrqLiFf-Xc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 24, 2022, 10:51:35 PM
Ween always has such subtle lyrics.

A fan favorite.

https://youtu.be/FWQhw9PcuCo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2022, 04:42:01 AM
But that's not inane and full of lame clichées like Whitesnake songs at all. It's a hilarious breakup song with intentionally crass lyrics anybody can relate to in anger. It's even witty. Reminds me of the stuff Shel Silverstein used to do for early Dr Hook & The Medicine Show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52kToozmfCE

David Coverdale has never written a witty lyric in his life unless you want to take this here to literature class:

You ain't a bad girl, honey,

No matter what the neighbors say,

It's just that you were those skin-tight dresses

With your G-string tuned to "A"


Sheer bloody poetry.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 25, 2022, 08:10:55 AM
That first Blue Murder album really showed that Whitesnake 1987 was more a Sykes album than a Coverdale album.
All the nonsense that the Coverdale camp said about Sykes's guitar parts being out of tune and not good for the songs. Some even claimed Dan Huff had to be called to the rescue to re-do all the guitar parts.
The album has Sykes written all over it (nobody was as "pinch harmonies happy" as Sykes back then (yet))

I do like the Blue Murder album better.
It is more playful and fun.
Even if the lyrics are a bit questionable here and there (Jelly Roll, Sex Child... ???)

I hadn't heard that stuff about Sykes' guitar parts. Sounds like BS to me. He strikes me as a bit of a perfectionist, and is a very capable player.

I revisited Blue Murder a couple of years ago, and what struck me was the terrible lyrics, LOL! Cool stuff though. Love Tony Franklin.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2022, 09:13:44 AM
Keith Olsen mentioned that Coverdale had issues pitching due to Sykes heaping so many harmonized overdubs on his guitar tracks that the slight off-tuning threw DC off. Now that might be, but it can hardly have posed a technical problem - all you need to do is then single out one pure guitar signal as the guide track and pull the faders down on the others and have Coverdale sing to that. I guess by then Coverdale and Sykes, the two alpha males had fallen out of love so little things like that turned into big drama.

Sykes has complained that some of his guitar overdubs were erased in the final mix, but I would dare to say: There is quite enough guitar on 1987 - your guitar, John -, thank you!

Unlike bass (guitar). Most of what you hear as bass guitar on 1987 is Don Airey on synth. He also "played bass" on quite a few Judas Priest albums. Remember this was the 80ies, not everything you heard as bass guitar was actually the real thing just as this here wasn't:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT4d1LQy4es
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2022, 09:16:39 AM
Why waste time listening to Quiet Riot, Free and Van Halen consecutively when you can have it all in one go ...  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkCJbfe2Pk&t=3s


Whoever does these things, is brilliant!  :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJXe_i7j5o&list=PL0B7qPkUvn7f_LABzeR-D6qkBfzqEAPO6

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2022, 12:36:28 PM
Pleasure has never felt more guilty, big hair & grand mustaches, grate on the cheeeeze pleeeeze ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r_XaUU7yE

There was no getting away from that song (well, two songs actually) in 1988, we had rented a white Ford Taurus and were driving around in California ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
Gene has always been my favorite balladeer ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5s3QSrRsQ4

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRx4LpYbQ4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 25, 2022, 03:24:56 PM
A rarity from Shel Silverstein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTGdke4Amo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 26, 2022, 08:25:03 AM
That sounds so Dr. Hook, I can just envisage them doing it. He really was their sixth or eighth (depending on the line-up) member.

I liked his melancholic songs too.

https://youtu.be/NO0HEQ8WSuA

https://youtu.be/E0KsK-Ftzpg

https://youtu.be/WGMiteDk910

A great American songwriter whose body of work has received real shoddy  treatment regarding availability today.








Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2022, 11:47:44 PM
https://youtu.be/p-uBlVRDKP8

Covered first by Johnny Cash

https://youtu.be/Xd0cX1dogtk

And of course he wrote A Boy Named Sue

Don't forget these two he wrote for Loretta Lynn

https://youtu.be/N4jl3J9J0R0

https://youtu.be/Qi_7aHNJ5sA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 29, 2022, 11:04:04 AM
Don't laugh, I'm only now discovering Curtis Mayfield. How criminal is that.  :-[

That Live! album from The Bitter End is unbelievable. But so is the Superfly Soundtrack. Working my way through six CDs right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdOEvZpo-OU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=904Oiyl3tCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVCNxWMQ3IE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjg-BBTnvFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu22gvLvLxM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 29, 2022, 01:31:18 PM
Better late than never
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on March 29, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
His early stuff with the Impressions just floors me .
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 31, 2022, 08:11:20 AM
The sound of Van Halen Mk I. I knew his backing vocals were key for their sound, but even his lead voice sounds like the original ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTaqDwgZ700

Makes you wonder whether he did the guide leads vocals on that debut and DLR just sang over it trying to match him.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 31, 2022, 10:02:45 AM
https://youtu.be/_Vs1dmoKAEc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 31, 2022, 10:32:18 AM
Those two guys at 1:45, don't think they're really singing the song ...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/43/d8/b743d8f409d9e356a0259f58271e8303.jpg)

I always liked the track though, have a penchant for that type of spoofy 12-bar rock'n'roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lseuE0dan6w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfzhtPx32wQ

Excuse the wow & flutter, but there's a Ripper in there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPsa8MJU_50

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 31, 2022, 01:22:47 PM
April Art's new single.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Q1nndeWg4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 01, 2022, 03:32:05 AM
Attempting to reach a wider audience with nu metal/dance pop influences I see ... - the new bassist has adjusted well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 01, 2022, 07:32:00 AM
I first got introduced to them by watching their 2021 Rockpalast concert.  Personally, that's the sound I would prefer.  But I'm not part of their target audience.  I understand they're trying to broaden their appeal, though.  I'll be interested in hearing their new album coming out soon.  Also, it's good to see they got rid of their orange prison uniforms. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 01, 2022, 01:02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9lBKVjuNFU

I can't believe they still had the nerve even in 1975 to credit this to themselves as a band composition.

(https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/innerZEPsdsdsds.jpg)

Their arrangement is great and it's one of my favorite (if there is such a thing) Led Zeppelin Non-Flying Magpies numbers, but not disclosing the origins is a cheap shot. And such a blatant lie, typically Led Zep to believe they could get away with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5HaHVKRouo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFvGOUMrr3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoF_0N-sonM

Say what you will about His Bobness, but he did not credit it to himself in 1962.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 01, 2022, 02:32:30 PM
Led Zeppelin has always got a free pass.  The adulation built up over them, especially in the U.S., transcended critical thinking and reality itself.  I thought they were good, but I could never see the godlike characteristics that so many others seemed to think were there.  But with the departure of both the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix in the 1970s, LZ happily stepped in to try to fill the void left in music.  In the case of Hendrix, everybody was roughly in the same genre, too, although it appears that he intended to move away from rock, especially hard rock. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 01, 2022, 10:00:28 PM
C W McCall (Bill Fries) passed today at age 93. So tonight I'm remembering the CB era.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/04/01/country-music-performer-cw-mccall-dies/

RIP, Rubber Duck

https://youtu.be/j3VN54M1OXA

https://youtu.be/X6LzWZYWpOU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on April 02, 2022, 10:45:22 AM
RIP
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 04, 2022, 07:51:25 AM
RIP. Loved Convoy when it came out. I think I was 11. I was a big model car (and ships and planes) builder as a kid, and did a couple of big rigs after that song came out.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on April 06, 2022, 11:03:55 PM
Since we had that brilliant Metallica and the News mashup lately, and Van Free Riot, I had to bring back my favorite ever (by the same editor no less)...
RAINING LOBSTERS!

It somehow gets even better at the bridge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnrfqPoX4WU&list=RDMM&index=3

For an encore I recommend Slayer and the Waves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MrMfoHejiw&list=PL0B7qPkUvn7f_LABzeR-D6qkBfzqEAPO6&index=43

And, wouldn't you know it, Marvin Gaye turns out to be the best hair-metal vocalist ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57SNPbxi0r0&list=PL0B7qPkUvn7f_LABzeR-D6qkBfzqEAPO6&index=94
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on April 06, 2022, 11:12:48 PM
More seriously, I remember the original video and live album of this tour being pretty dodgy sound-wise - but with remixed audio from the It's Hard bonus CD, this is a pretty excellent version.
I love Townshend's leads on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTVMh7fur4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on April 11, 2022, 07:18:00 AM
Steamhammer! I picked up their album 'Mountains' recently. They were a blues rock band but had a slightly dissonant, shambolic and exploratory edge to them. One track is a long jam recorded in concert, complete with a faulty connection between guitar and amp somewhere.

I wager that Ian Anderson's strange 'blues' vocal delivery on the first few Tull albums was taken from guys like Kieran White, who was the vocalist in Steamhammer.

Kieran White sounds like a Scottish name, but apparently he was English. Nobody is perfect!  :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/dUQM0bSE60s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on April 15, 2022, 10:19:22 AM
A song fit for the holidays. Thinking fondly of my Dad too. Dweezil does his Pops proud here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2NCiNKdCYU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 18, 2022, 12:06:56 PM
https://youtu.be/tHILFDCnc4Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 30, 2022, 12:23:34 AM
My wife has recorded a beautiful little song together with a friend who accompanies her on guitar.
The original is from Lizz Wright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLniCqegaFE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 30, 2022, 11:04:27 PM
Very nice! Reminds me of a country ballad.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 02, 2022, 02:16:27 AM
Very nice, like Lucinda Williams in tune.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 08, 2022, 09:39:49 PM
https://youtu.be/gzuFSQKNLsg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 04:36:10 AM
But they sing it in Oimerican!

A strange language for that particular song.

Cultural pronunciation divisions aside, a fine, spirited version.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 09, 2022, 05:25:12 AM
But they sing it in Oimerican!

A strange language for that particular song.

Cultural pronunciation divisions aside, a fine, spirited version.

They are natives of Austria.

Maybe you could speak to them in their native language and explain things to them.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on May 09, 2022, 06:08:57 AM
This. She's brilliant.

https://open.spotify.com/track/28P9H1p41Jv1MXV9fzLnaA?si=ac10e09db0f844cd
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 09, 2022, 06:20:10 AM
They are natives of Austria.

Maybe you could speak to them in their native language and explain things to them.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mquSae6K3xE&t=106s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 06:44:29 AM
They are natives of Austria.

Maybe you could speak to them in their native language and explain things to them.  ;)


I don't speak Austrian (not really a language, but an aberration), and nothing good from there has ever reached our borders.

Or as Lisa Eckhart, an Austrian stand-up comedienne very popular in Germany and feared for her low pc tongue,

(https://img.zeit.de/kultur/literatur/2020-08/isa-eckhart-comedian-cancel-culture/wide__450x253__mobile__scale_2)

recently quipped:

We're on the brink of WW III, wouldn't you know it ... But it's a good thing, this time no one will be able to say how we Austrians are to blame!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 06:46:02 AM
This. She's brilliant.

https://open.spotify.com/track/28P9H1p41Jv1MXV9fzLnaA?si=ac10e09db0f844cd

Sounds like Kenny G on acid.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 09, 2022, 06:58:15 AM

I don't speak Austrian (not really a language, but an aberration), and nothing good from there has ever reached our borders.

Or as Lisa Eckhart, an Austrian stand-up comedienne very popular in Germany and feared for her low pc tongue,

(https://img.zeit.de/kultur/literatur/2020-08/isa-eckhart-comedian-cancel-culture/wide__450x253__mobile__scale_2)

recently quipped:

We're on the brink of WW III, wouldn't you know it ... But it's a good thing, this time no one will be able to say how we Austrians are to blame!

Nothing against the Austrians personally.  Really.  But I am genuinely puzzled  how they f***ed up the pronunciation of the German language so much.  Not being knowledgeable about the language, I really don't know what happened.  But it was definitely something major. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 07:49:02 AM
There's a myriad different dialects of German - even Dutch is one, but don't let them hear that -, and accentless Hochdeutsch (High German) is only just another dialect spoken in the vicinity of Hannover, but somehow they sold it to us that their accent isn't really an accent and that we all have to emulate it!  8)

To my ears, Austrian isn't that bad (and it's certainly better to understand than a lot of others), but of course they are the butt of jokes. Lisa's "Austrian" is basically Hochdeutsch with a decadent Viennese inflection.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on May 09, 2022, 08:38:43 AM
Sounds like Kenny G on acid.  :mrgreen:

Oh my God, Uwe. That's like saying Deep Purple Mk II sound like Maroon 5 on acid. Kenny G is shopping mall elevator muzak. Schneider takes the big band format to new levels. Did you listen to the whole piece? Because you should.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 09:03:12 AM
Well, I was hoping to elicit some kind of reaction from you! Job done. :mrgreen:

Kenny G ain't even elevator muzak, it's soft porn background! The kind of thing you heard to accompany the visual, uhum, act (in time with softly accentuated moaning) in one of those glamour-artsy, soft-focus & butt-pimple-free Andrew Blake flicks where people never really did much but get laid in vast white interior design mansions and the sun always shone. Just like real life, essentially.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51nHcSUzwtL._AC_SY450_.jpg)

No, Schneider is actually pleasantly feverish and intricate, I would wager to guess that Be Bop and Cool Jazz are not on her list of disliked genres. It's demanding music, but there is nothing wrong with that.

I have one or two Moron 5 (or whatever they're called) CDs. The music encapsulate vacuity perfectly - the absence of matter as we know it. You can't even dislike it - there's nothing there! 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 09, 2022, 10:57:36 AM
There's a myriad different dialects of German - even Dutch is one, but don't let them hear that -, and accentless Hochdeutsch (High German) is only just another dialect spoken in the vicinity of Hannover, but somehow they sold it to us that their accent isn't really an accent and that we all have to emulate it!  8)

To my ears, Austrian isn't that bad (and it's certainly better to understand than a lot of others), but of course they are the butt of jokes. Lisa's "Austrian" is basically Hochdeutsch with a decadent Viennese inflection.

If someone doesn't speak the language, the reaction to it is just a general one based on impressions.  That would be my case with German.  But to my ears to sound of northern and central German sound very pleasing.  As good or better than anything I've ever heard.  I like central German better.  But northern German sounds good, too, although it's a little harsh.  But certain kinds of southern German are just a little too much for me.  Like I've already said, Austrian German sounds even more radical.  To illustrate my point, I ordered a German course from The Great Courses some time ago.  I was not happy when I discovered the professor was an American who had studied in Austria.  He definitely knew his stuff.  But that Austrian accent is just about too much for me.  Honestly, I'd just rather not hear it.  Maybe if it was a sexy Austrian woman, that would change my attitude.  But that's not what I got.  BTW, I wasn't aware at all that the Austrian accent is something people joke about.  My reaction to it is strictly personal and subjective. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 11:25:02 AM
An Austrian accent wins over all existing languages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z834nV4ccH8

And that Predator probably preferred Hochdeutsch. Or he wanted an accurate pronunciation of helicopter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4nFSdNNFQw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 09, 2022, 12:27:58 PM
It might be easier to keep things simple and use Spanish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxaXmXvjnU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 09, 2022, 02:52:40 PM
Arnie is a cunning linguist, a master of many tongues.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on May 11, 2022, 03:53:12 AM
Rudolf playing lead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNDdIfKbkw

nice to see Mikkey Dee has found himself a new home, should be a good fit too
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 11, 2022, 10:53:24 AM
A few years with the Scorpions and he need not worry about his retirement fund anymore. I'm happy for both them, he is indeed a good fit. So was James Kottak, but he couldn't get a grip on his demons though the Scorps gave him repeatedly a chance to do so. He blew it.

Working for the Scorpions is probably akin to having a job with a good corporate employer who offers health insurance, a good wage, social and retirement benefits as well as a well-organized working environment. In their 50 years of existence, the Scorpions have done little else but tour, it's a way of life to them. Mickey won't have to worry about anything other than two hours of good drumming every few days. Piece of cake for him. And compared to Motörhead, the Scorps are a major draw, the clubs and small halls days are gone for him. Good way to finish a career after Mercyful Fate, King Diamond and Motörhead.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 16, 2022, 10:02:11 PM
Maggie Peterson (Mancuso) who played Charlene Darling on Andy Griffith has passed away at age 81.

The Darlings were played by The Dillards, who are still active today, although Rodney Dillard is the only original member still living.

Maggie sang with them at this May 2019 show. This is a number she did way back when on the TV show.

https://youtu.be/SWs55xZwqpM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2022, 05:56:16 AM
Melodic hard rock has been done to death, but these elderly gentlemen do it well on their second outing, sort of like Dokken (two ex members in this line up) with someone who can actually sing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Wa0S5-RxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCi7ybORSo

Nice Ampeg bass played by Pilson - been a while since I saw one of those in a modern day video.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 17, 2022, 08:08:55 AM
Love this tune...and the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2022, 08:53:39 AM
Tom Petty's vocal entry is priceless. Nasal never sounded better.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 17, 2022, 12:05:15 PM
My favorite Wilburys song.

On another note, Taj Mahal is 80 today.

https://youtu.be/seJAOWHUeJE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 21, 2022, 01:09:17 AM
Dutch band The Pilgrims doing a cover of another Dutch band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g2DlqYo_iY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 21, 2022, 09:18:02 AM
That's the non-speeding version! Radar Control so to say.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 21, 2022, 09:59:03 AM
That blonde backing vocalist got my heart racing though...  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 22, 2022, 02:12:40 PM
I'll tell Floor.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 23, 2022, 01:55:12 AM
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 26, 2022, 08:56:55 PM
https://youtu.be/UcNUz4njCo8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 27, 2022, 03:39:56 AM
Nick Lowe looks and sounds great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 27, 2022, 04:16:17 AM
Played for years in a little rock&roll band that covered a lot of Rockpile material . Rockpile was a great little band !
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on May 27, 2022, 07:19:28 AM
https://youtu.be/UcNUz4njCo8

I recently finished reading Slaughterhouse Five, so this song has been on my mind.  ;) And I have just now realized that Thin Lizzy would have sounded perfectly at home covering it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 27, 2022, 11:16:34 PM
And on a related note...

https://youtu.be/Qa7uJ60N1jY


A digital single released late last year, an outtake from a previous album. Written by Cowboy Jack Clement, I first heard it by Jerry Lee Lewis way back in the 50s.

https://youtu.be/-4Od2lCdOug
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on May 29, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
I just watched Stranger Things season 4, which ... Well not to give too much away but if I were ever in a situation like Max, this would work for me too
https://youtu.be/wp43OdtAAkM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 01, 2022, 09:10:55 AM
Always a great song - in all its minimalist glory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBcMysJeGN0

Related, The Struts doing their version of Beast of Burden or such ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjYQ71VBHk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 01, 2022, 11:32:05 PM
https://youtu.be/DaqkpUTK2XY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 06, 2022, 07:26:47 AM
I really like her, but what is this, glam pop psychedelic art & prog indie rock? An eclectic mix with ingredients from all eras, but lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUKwgSnlrk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l5YOplmlio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg8Cs6Puw60
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 06, 2022, 08:53:12 AM
I really like her, but what is this, glam pop psychedelic art & prog indie rock? An eclectic mix with ingredients from all eras, but lovely.

Digging this. It reminds me a bit of Dresden Dolls. Nice SG.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 06, 2022, 12:41:51 PM
It's pleasantly weird.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 07, 2022, 12:43:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9gATdsbTW4&list=PLBUXlOLsnpUDqz5OZOoEm-YgfAJ_6rfKB

Been listening a lot to Whitesnake's Live In The Heart Of The City lately.
I'm going to do a couple of gigs with my former bandmates (who have a Whitesnake tribute band doing pre-1987 WS), since their bass player is on tour with Epica.
It will be the first time in 6 years that I'll play with a band.
I haven't played much bass since I quit. I mainly focus on building them these days. ;-)
So I'm a bit rusty... ;)

But I enjoy figuring out the bass parts of Neil Murray and practicing them. He and Ian Paice were a nice rhythm tandem.
Lots of playful subtleties in their parts. Quite a challenge to get those bass parts down pat.



A couple of days ago I found this on YouTube. Different line-up.
And I was shocked how bad the band played here.
Especially Cozy Powell really ruins the entire vibe for me here. Everything is played too fast. It is square and hamfisted. It doesn't swing. It doesn't groove.
I think it is horrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfq-uvYVz2k


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 07, 2022, 09:02:41 AM
I've been saying that for decades, here and on DP/Whitesnake boards!

Cozy was a lovable character and his (inherently limited) "barbarians at the gate"-style fitted music with a certain grandeur well, not just Rainbow and Sabbath, but also here (me thinks)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRsXvZiiNNY

but he couldn't swing like Ian Paice to save his life. These track sums him up, Cozy was a stomper, it's what you got from him ... I'm like a freight train ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ENohs_QRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOmFX7WGom0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKjOE2EG4E

Moreover, Cozy rushed live like hell, Blackmore said he was "always ahead of the beat, while Ian Paice was 'the beat'" (Blackmore loved his energy though), Bob Daisley said he "cut corners all the time" (and that it cost him the job with Gary Moore who wanted a metronomic drummer) and Tony Carey is on record for saying that "Cozy speeded live often so much, it became hilarious".

Neil Murray has said this about him:

Can you explain what made Cozy such a unique and talented drummer?
 
Well, his drumming was an extension of his personality. He was a very fun guy a lot of the time, and very bright, intelligent. But he had a very forceful strength of personality. He would very much be a driving force in terms of his participation in any band that he was in. Even if he wasn’t the leader, he’d be almost the co-leader. He’d want to be seen virtually as important as, let’s say, David Coverdale or Tony Iommi. He didn’t want to be just a backing musician. He’d get very frustrated if he was expected to be just in that position.

It carries over to his drumming style. He had people that he really admired, and wished he could emulate, like John Bonham or even Jon Hiseman and other jazzier drummers in terms of technique, Jeff Porcaro later on. He was comfortable with his own style: “This is how I play.” In a way, it’s great to play with somebody like that, who is so sure of what they’re doing. With the massive sound he had, he just hits you right and you try and make it even stronger.

With somebody who is so powerful a presence, it means that, possibly, the bass player has less opportunity to shine. You’re more kind of in the background, but it’s still a very satisfying combination to play with somebody like that, someone very powerful that can drive the whole thing along.


But even Neil who played as Powell's bass foil in Cozy Powell's Hammer, Whitesnake, Black Sabbath, Brian May (who also loved Cozy's no-holds-barred energy) and Peter Green's Splinter Group had to adapt (= dumb down) his bass playing to be compatible with Cozy's style.

And that leads us to Colin Hodgkinson, the bassist who was both Neil's successor and predecessor (once Cozy had joined on drums) in Whitesnake. Hodgkinson with his jazzy background couldn't gel with Cozy at all. At one point, Cozy (who had a temper) rushed out of the drum booth at the Slide It In sessions snapping at Colin: "Let me introduce myself, I'M THE DRUMMER!" I saw Whitesnake with Colin a few times, every time he looked outright bemused and even bewildered on stage, in fascinated incomprehension about the powerhouse that was Cozy Powell. And while Cozy might have clobbered early Whitesnake material to death, Hodgkinson was also a culprit as he had not the faintest idea what and where to play within Whitesnake, he was totally out of his depth (Jon Lord had recommended him to David Coverdale after having toured with him in Germany playing blues standards in clubs with Chris Farlowe, Miller Anderson and Pete York, an old-school swinger of a drummer - it had nothing to do with playing Whitesnake material in large halls alongside Cozy Powell). Hodgkinson has a style all of his own and is a fine bassist, but he's quaintly angular in his playing and his middish sound is anathema to what a bassist needs to provide with Cozy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvcaQfQ8h7M

Here's the otherwise exactly same track once with Colin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1SoiXmCUY

and rerecorded by Neil on bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3klAJTG-u8

Listen to what both of them do around the 2:15 mark, after the guitar solo, the difference is subtle in actual playing, but the difference in feel is night and day.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 07, 2022, 10:03:45 AM
At live gigs to me it comes across as if his main goal was to annihilate the drum parts of his predecessors.
Ian Paice's parts with Whitesnake.
Simon Phillips' parts with MSG.
Ian Paice, Simon Phillips and Brian Downey with Gary Moore.
Gary Driscoll with Rainbow
et cetera

All just bashed to smithereens at break neck speed.

I think Neil Murray is (too much of) a sweet guy who does not want to speak badly about his late bandmate.
But I can't imagine he really enjoyed playing with Cozy Powell who left no room for any playful part whatsoever.

And you're right about Colin Hodgkinson. At that 1983 concert in Germany he had no clue what to do. The entire band was sloppy as hell.

And the example of the Neil Murray part vs the Colin Hodgkinson part really shows how intimidated Hodgkinson was by Cozy Powell's drum parts.
He didn't dare to adventure away from the kickdrum. Not just in the part after the guitar solo. But also in the verses. Where Murray plays around the kickdrum, he creates a certain groove. He makes it danceable.
The Hodgkinson's part is just pile driving.




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 07, 2022, 10:30:21 AM
"I think Neil Murray is (too much of) a sweet guy who does not want to speak badly about his late bandmate.
But I can't imagine he really enjoyed playing with Cozy Powell who left no room for any playful part whatsoever.
"

I believe Powell/Murray became basically a package you would book together and Cozy knew that most bassists had issues playing with him, but that Murray could adapt his style when needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ushMc3oof-c
Cozy rushes even here.  :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVBToPOUFW4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 07, 2022, 10:36:24 AM
I think Neil saved Cozy's ass there in the Brian May show.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 07, 2022, 08:41:10 PM
Hodgkinson had zero experience playing heavy music in a live band situation. Contrary to public perception, IT'S NOT THAT EASY TO PLAY WITH & SUSTAIN THAT TYPE OF ENERGY. So rather than being himself, he dumbed his usually idiosyncratic bass playing down to beyond recognition. "Intimidated by Cozy Powell" is an apt description. He once said in an interview about his short tenure with Whitesnake: "It was like playing in a circus, hard work." It was around the same time that Micky Moody became alienated from Whitesnake too (Powell's drumming having a lot to do with that and Coverdale's change in character adding to the bill). The two (standing on the same side of the stage watching John Kalodner take notes from the side of the stage during performances and looking like some type of A & R Rasputin) would frequently make inside jokes - with Colin whispering in Micky's ear during especially heavy metal moments on stage: "And now ladies & gentlemen: the Blues!" which had Micky cracking up (and Mr Kalodner frowning from his observation point). Both were happy to be fired soon after.

Hodgkinson's "audition" to Whitesnake was actually recording this song here in the studio with Cozy Powell for the latter's third solo album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9i1ENLJQJA

Replicating his style as featured on jazz rock albums with Jan Hammer, his largely chorded bass part on that track had of course nothing at all to do with what would be required from him in Whitesnake alongside Cozy. And Coverdale (who had ironically gotten rid of Neil because he felt his style wouldn't fit with Powell's drumming, not quite realizing that the two had already played together) was so in awe of an ex-Back Door member in his band, he didn't listen closely either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEkzweEhKQc

But then that's Coverdale for you.  :mrgreen: He wanted Tommy Bolin for Deep Purple believing that the lightning fast intro lead parts on Quadrant 4 were from Tommy's guitar (they emanated from Jan Hammer's synth, Tommy only comes in later, he is panned to the right side, Jan to the left):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unxshBHfVsY

And he truly believed that Steve Vai (of all people) would be a fine blues player because he wrongly assumed that Steve Vai had also played all of Ralph Macchios guitar parts in the (awfully cheesy) movie Crossroads where Vai played an established  guitar slinger in league with Satan dueling with a young Blues aficionado.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqdL36VKbMQ

Only problem was: The neo-classical runs apparently played by the kid actor (never mind how he was supposed to do those with his slide tuning  ;D ) were indeed from Vai, but the bluesy slide playing was all courtesy of Ry Cooder (who doesn't appear in the scene)  :mrgreen: Vai simply doesn't do slide, not in the movie and not in real life.

But David Coverdale has his preconceptions!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 08, 2022, 12:22:30 AM
I have a hard time believing that Coverdale was that thick to think Vai played the bluesy parts in Crossroads. The film was marketed as a Ry Cooder movie.

I do believe that Coverdale assumed Vai could play more a more serving/befitting role. Much like he had done on Eat 'Em And Smile.
That album solidified Vai's name as (one of) the worlds hottest guitar players in the rock/metal universe.
If only Coverdale had listened to Alcatrazz, he could have guessed which direction Vai had in mind when he gave him carte blanche on recording his guitars for Slip Of The Tongue.

Vai was already on another planet when he did Slip Of The Tongue. Round about the same time he recorded Passion and Warfare.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 08, 2022, 07:08:08 AM
I loved Vai with Alcatrazz, I thought he was ok with DLR (with the latter's inherent vocal limits), his solo album with Devin Townsend (Sex & Religion) was brilliant, I even bought his newest solo release which is, well, interesting if acrobatics are your thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46qjDJ0lLdE

Frankly, the (too) many guitar tracks and an odd sound on Slip of the Tongue sounded plain weird and clinical to me upon its release. With Alcatrazz, Vai had co-created something sounding fresh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azH1lEHkUXY

with DLR he didn't distract (unlike with Whitesnake) and played some noteworthy solos, with Whitesnake it was: "What the flying f***?!" Any B league guitarist could have produced something that would have sounded more organic with Whitesnake. And while I never thought that Adrian Vandenberg is the Dutch Jimi Hendrix (I prefer George Kooymans), he would have created a more fitting sonic landscape as well.

Vai, a perceptive and reflective man, has admitted in interviews today that he went overboard on Slip of the Tongue (Sarzo had to rerecord his complete bass parts because his sound didn't gel with Vai's layered overdub approach), that he overshadowed Adrian Vandenberg too much on the subsequent tour (who took it with grace) and that he really wasn't steeped enough in blues and English blues rock to have been up to the task at the time.

But the majority of the blame must be laid on Coverdale himself. By then, his criteria for hiring Whitesnake members had become totally superficial. Whitesnake had transformed from a band where excellent musicians played notwithstanding their looks to one where you had to be poster material and flavor of the month as well as offer star quality, lasting benefits to the music coming in a distinct second.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 08, 2022, 07:22:38 AM
And while I never thought that Adrian Vandenberg is the Dutch Jimi Hendrix (I prefer George Kooymans),

Hmmm...I don't know about that Uwe.
I'll just leave this here  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1bDRJIAYVY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 08, 2022, 08:02:16 AM
Adrian is a very skillful guitarist (and painter), no doubt. I don't think he's a force of nature though. His playing always sounds a little to well-behaved and learned to me, perhaps he is too controlled, you know him better, he is probably anything but a wild or reckless man, right? He's like a Dutch Matthias Jabs - a man who is technically no less skillfull than Michael Schenker or Uli Jon Roth, but just not as idiosyncratic as the other two.

To console Adrian: I always liked his stage persona and when he played with Vai in Whitesnake at Monsters of Rock in Germany, his solos were the only thing that reminded one of the Whitesnake of old. Vai was breathtaking, but basically a solo artist that had stumbled on a Whitesnake stage by accident and was now doing his thing and strutting around.

Or to put it differently: Adrian is (and looked a bit like) Claudia Schiffer,

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTU81_5Ltxw84jey5hPkDp8SMMcQz-ewDfE-A&usqp=CAU)

he's not Kate Moss or Naomi Campbell.

(https://fashionmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/GettyImages-75800740-1.jpg)



And that is nothing bad, life generally has harsher things for us in store than just being "more the Claudia Schiffer type".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 08, 2022, 08:31:21 AM
I agree he's not a game changer like Jimi Hendrix of course.

He used to be a great guitar player.
But ever since he made his comeback with Moonkings, he's been struggling playing the guitar parts he wrote himself in the past.
Painful to watch at some moments...

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 08, 2022, 09:10:55 AM
I didn't want to be the first to jump in, but I have to agree with the Cozy comments. He's a legend (and he's dead), but I have to say, he was stiff. A few years ago, I revisited Robert Plant's first three solo albums (which I love). Cozy played on a couple of tracks on the debut, and they stand out like a sore thumb, especially up against Phil Collins' tracks on the rest of the album. He had his style, and there are places for that style, but not everywhere.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 08, 2022, 10:55:45 AM
Wynn Stewart would have been 88 yesterday. Maybe you all don't want to listen to him, but I do. Bakersfield music, backed by the great Ralph Mooney on pedal steel.

https://youtu.be/9zVoufmy0LE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 09, 2022, 07:29:36 AM
Who played the regular guitar?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 09, 2022, 08:58:54 AM
Who played the regular guitar?

Roy Nichols, who later played for Merle Haggard.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 09, 2022, 09:01:54 AM
Now here's one I hadn't seen before. Lip synched.

Bassist is J.W. Brown, father of Jerry Lee's 13 y.o. cousin who he married.

https://youtu.be/F569_t2jCio
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 09, 2022, 09:40:55 AM
Here is Bill Haley doing a country song.  It's hard for me to think of him outside of the rock and roll context, but he seemed to be good at everything.  The Eddie Arnold version of this song I guess was the best known, but I like the Marty Robbins version the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7qqxiDT5I



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 09, 2022, 04:19:31 PM
Now here's one I hadn't seen before. Lip synched.

Bassist is J.W. Brown, father of Jerry Lee's 13 y.o. cousin who he married.

https://youtu.be/F569_t2jCio

I still think Matthew McConaughey should play him in a biopic before he (Matthew) gets too old for the role.

"Bassist is J.W. Brown, father of Jerry Lee's 13 y.o. cousin who he married."

Now that's a relief to hear, so it was all contained in the greater family. And sharing things is good band practice anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbty1kRCG0

That said, some people still have nice things to say about the Killer, here at 5.34:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMJerUVdivw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 10, 2022, 12:09:30 AM
I still think Matthew McConaughey should play him in a biopic before he (Matthew) gets too old for the role.

"Bassist is J.W. Brown, father of Jerry Lee's 13 y.o. cousin who he married."

Now that's a relief to hear, so it was all contained in the greater family. And sharing things is good band practice anyway.

...

For the record, J.W. is Jerry Lee's first cousin, Myra Gale is his first cousin once removed.

It's still all in the family. Jerry Lee's current wife (#7) is the ex-wife of Rusty Brown. Rusty is Myra Gale's brother/J.W.'s son.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 10, 2022, 12:12:30 AM
Here is Bill Haley doing a country song.  It's hard for me to think of him outside of the rock and roll context, but he seemed to be good at everything.  The Eddie Arnold version of this song I guess was the best known, but I like the Marty Robbins version the best.

...

Bill was a country musician before rock & roll. The Comets were originally called The Saddlemen.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 10, 2022, 02:26:00 AM
I was always aware of his C&W background, he sure didn't look the part of a thoroughbred rocker either, nothing youth-deforming and unsettling about him like with Elvis and his pelvis, Little Richard, leering Chuck Berry or the Killer either.

How unlikely then that he of all people elicited riots in Germany when he first toured there in 1958 - German post-war youth was starved for rock'n'roll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsp5bLCPMNU

BTW: Of all the initial rock'n'roll classics, I think that sonically the production/engineering of Rock Around The Clock has held up best. It still sounds great and is immaculately played. And the swing of it is not that easily replicated which is why there are a myriad covers of Chuck Berry numbers, but only very few of RATC. I've never really heard a good modernized version of it, even Ringo's failed,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNSVGoPkiWk

but I've seen it ruined by bands attempting it quite often. Those guitar/horn syncopations in the verse are extremely catchy and drive the song forward in an infectious manner before they climax just before the final verse at the end.

The original (from 1953 as opposed to Haley's NYC recording from 1954) is nowhere near as captivating as what the Comets did to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr_w3WPzyXA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 10, 2022, 03:59:59 AM
Bill was a country musician before rock & roll. The Comets were originally called The Saddlemen.

I was aware that Haley had some kind of Country & Western background, although to my mind he sounds more western than country.  The same goes for Marty Robbins.  Neither one of them has a twang to their voices which in my mind I associate with a lot of country music.  But I really don't think I've ever understood the nuances between country on one side and western on the other.  People seem to use the term C&W like the whole thing is interchangeable.  But to my mind at least it doesn't all seem quite like the same thing. 

Jimmie Rodgers is also someone that to me sounds more western than country.  But he was from Mississippi.  That's about as Southern as you get.  It's certainly not western.  Also, I've heard Rodgers referred to as the father of country music.  I don't know much about his background, but Rodgers must have had some influences that went quite a bit beyond Mississippi.  Of course he is known for working on the railroad and I suppose that could explain at least part of it.

Based on what I've read, stuff like this at one time was quite popular.  However, my knowledge about these things is incomplete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzc77Tz6PA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 10, 2022, 05:37:48 AM
When it comes to Bill Haley, it's "Shake, Rattle and Roll" which I like as much or more than anything.  That song captures a lot of things, especially the essence of the 50s.  It is transcendent.  Here is a quote from SongFacts.

Bill Haley and his Comets recorded this song in 1954 as the follow-up to their single "Thirteen Women"/"Rock Around The Clock." This version was a hit, going to #7 on the Billboard charts. Haley reworked the most overtly sexual lyrics in the song for the sake of airplay, replacing "You wear those dresses, the sun comes shining through. I can't believe my eyes all that mess belongs to you" with "You wearin' those dresses, your hair done up so nice. You look so warm but your heart is as cold as ice." The "one-eyed cat peekin' in a seafood store" stayed in, since that one went over the heads of most white listeners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAY2Nqu6i-c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 10, 2022, 07:12:15 AM
I had this one on 45. Not a hit but it did get airplay and I liked it.

https://youtu.be/cGW8on8myv4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 10, 2022, 07:59:37 AM
I've probably heard that one, too, somewhere along the line.  I can see how those lyrics might especially appeal to adolescent boys at the time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 11, 2022, 08:28:16 AM
This girl must have vocal cords of titanium  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNtGoM3FVU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 22, 2022, 09:27:53 PM
Written by Michael Martin Murphey and based on a real character named Dean Kirk who played at the train station in Silverton Colorado.

https://youtu.be/uXLXdraGD6I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2022, 04:07:21 AM
Mark's heartthrob David B together with the boys in a rare lip-synced (yet very earnest) performance of their perennial dance floor stomper (back in the day when people still danced to hard rock) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1CL3JHoQg

Kerslake's shuffle playing is a dream of a feathery swing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2022, 04:22:01 AM
Bunch of Vikings doing their appropriation of Grand Funk Railroad's We're an American a Canadian Band" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4U18nQBiGk

BTO weren't what I would call 'cerebral', but they sure made you feel good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 23, 2022, 07:55:25 AM
Mark's heartthrob David B together with the boys in a rare lip-synced (yet very earnest) performance of their perennial dance floor stomper (back in the day when people still danced to hard rock) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1CL3JHoQg

Kerslake's shuffle playing is a dream of a feathery swing.

Always loved that tune. Was a challenge to play as a teen. Maybe more so now!  ;D

And Jerry Bryant is a legend around these parts. https://www.robertfeder.com/2022/04/29/38-years-tv-music-icon-jerry-bryant-still-big-plans-rock/ (https://www.robertfeder.com/2022/04/29/38-years-tv-music-icon-jerry-bryant-still-big-plans-rock/)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 23, 2022, 09:48:33 AM
He looks like a member of Heep today himself!

You probably never heard this version here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP81rWZBmhM


Which, listening to it now, makes me wonder if a couple of Swedes gave it a close listen ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FsVeMz1F5c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 23, 2022, 10:44:19 AM
https://youtu.be/jjDH0owA4CI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 24, 2022, 06:27:07 AM
He looks like a member of Heep today himself!

You probably never heard this version here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP81rWZBmhM


WOW!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 24, 2022, 09:13:59 AM
That was very common/de rigueur in Europe - taking an Anglo-American song, rerecording it and giving it a new set of national lyrics gave you claim to half the respective national royalties of the translated version.

Some examples (I believe you will recognize the original in each and every case - answers on a postcard ...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwHcohP7y3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgTB4gLzsgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Sw7UKbtE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QO6FW-JvRM

Even reputable acts did it, albeit under a fake moniker, Klaus and the boys said they needed the money at the time, the Scorps were up-and-coming, but also broke in the mid-seventies, to continue touring and build their career they had an idea, possibly after having opened for Brian, Steve, Andy & Mick on a German tour ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRL3gi2hXg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 24, 2022, 12:25:22 PM
That Cindy und Bert cover of Black Sabbath almost sounds like a Deep Purple cover with the hammond. Cindy looks like she could use a glass of orange juice. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 25, 2022, 10:51:54 AM
Actually, that particular track - very early days for them - was not so bad at all, I like the Hammond too and their vocal harmonies. In the early 70ies, Deep Purple had become a household name in Germany - you couldn't escape the In Rock cover - and Hammond sounds became much more prevalent in all kinds of music. The almost as popular Uriah Heep left an organ imprint too. It wasn't really until Punk when traditional rhythm guitar saw a resurgence. In the first half of the 70ies in Germany, a proper rock band had a guitarist AND a keyboard player.

Alas!, much greater horrors would follow ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS8CD3mg7ME

Yet Cindy's complexion grew tanner (her and Bert's Paranoid version had a goth horror lyric, so maybe their make-up was to make them look pale) and she had a solo career (adding her surname Berger) - still with the old recipe of covering Anglo-American stuff, here some Cheap Trick ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wDCo_7MK4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 29, 2022, 10:11:17 AM
I went and saw Pearl Jam last night (my wife dragged me along). I guess some thirty-years-after-the-fact, Grunge and I have found an uneasy truce. (It was the first gig of a committed Grunge band - some people would even doubt that with Pearl Jam of all Seattle bands of that era, I know - I've ever been to, wild horses couldn't have dragged me to Nirvana or Soundgarden.) It was a good gig, the audience lapped it up and Vedder (starting to look a bit Don Henley'esque) is a fine singer and (slightly evangelical, which is not my thing) front man.

Pause ...  :-X

But I can't help myself, the guitar interplay in this type of band is - as separation of duties and complementing each other or even simply reinforcing a unison riff (not that there are many) go - not to the engineering standards of, dare I say it, Judas Priest, yes?  I'm serious, any half-baked heavy metal band is "neater" in its guitar arrangements, let's not even talk about the kind of sophisticated guitar interplay you have in Wishbone Ash or the Allman Brothers. Now do stone me.

I know I'm just old.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 29, 2022, 01:04:24 PM
No, it's not your age. They never were the kind of band like that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 29, 2022, 06:05:18 PM
Some moderately percussive guitar playing here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VohubM8Hls4&t=159s

I need to work on my pick control.  :-\
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 01, 2022, 09:20:14 AM

But I can't help myself, the guitar interplay in this type of band is - as separation of duties and complementing each other or even simply reinforcing a unison riff (not that there are many) go - not to the engineering standards of, dare I say it, Judas Priest, yes?  I'm serious, any half-baked heavy metal band is "neater" in its guitar arrangements, let's not even talk about the kind of sophisticated guitar interplay you have in Wishbone Ash or the Allman Brothers. Now do stone me.

I know I'm just old.

I've always thought the guitar playing in that band was mediocre at best. That and Vedder's vocal style made me a diehard non-fan.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 02, 2022, 09:56:19 AM
They really should have done an unplugged album, a lot of their stuff was just ideal for it ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzzXm3TeR3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdwH6_Uzpc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 02, 2022, 03:00:40 PM
I've always thought the guitar playing in that band was mediocre at best. That and Vedder's vocal style made me a diehard non-fan.

I honestly can't explain why.  I've never consciously had anything against them.  But there is something about them which simply failed to get my attention.  I can't even name one song they've done.  I'm not even sure if I've listened to one of their songs all the way through.  However, I just now looked at some of their musical influences and maybe their lack of appeal makes more sense now.  I have no wish to go into detail, though.  It's better to not bash bands if possible.  Strictly speaking, I'm not even bashing Pearl Jam now.  I'm just saying I was never able to even focus on them at all.  Kind of like a feeling of unintended pure neutrality on my part. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 03, 2022, 06:32:09 AM
Boring, plodding music combined with Vedder's godawful vocal style. Not my idea of good music. YMMV.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 03, 2022, 01:51:38 PM
I'll give the jury verdict to my wife!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 03, 2022, 05:23:32 PM
Killer version - with the great John Gustafson on bass ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB7z-FxeKyo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 04, 2022, 08:16:37 AM
Killer version - with the great John Gustafson on bass ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB7z-FxeKyo

Love this. I could use a couple of backup singers.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 04, 2022, 08:48:56 AM
Love this. I could use a couple of backup singers.  ;D

Can't you ever get enough?! You had the whole forum drooling for the abdomen of your cropped-look chick singer while you were busy - what was it again? - ah, yes, concentrating on the exact execution of the bass lines, a man and his commitment to priorities. You're wasteful.  ;D

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/british-singer-bryan-ferry-of-roxy-music-with-backing-singers-jacqui-picture-id109770211?s=594x594)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 04, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
The signature song from the movie I watch every 4th of July.  Cagney's only Oscar, and one of the top 100 movies of all time. Nobody could strut better than Cagney imitating George M. Cohan's straight-legged dancing style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wxb-wwQnA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 04, 2022, 06:56:22 PM
Wot, no death scene with him?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 05, 2022, 08:11:22 AM
Wot, no death scene with him?

There is none for Cohan in that movie...but you might like this one....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECx-42Wlho
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 05, 2022, 10:45:05 AM
Someone bought Gary Richrath's 59 burst for a hefty sum. At leat they were asking over 300k and now it's gone.
https://reverb.com/item/18206426-1959-gibson-les-paul-standard-richrath-burst?show_sold=true

Great player. I've been checking out the old catalog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8CnXn8LY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jr4R_xheeE
and one of the best music videos ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJzNZ1c5C9c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 05, 2022, 05:41:17 PM
In memoriam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbpYjGxoxs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 05, 2022, 05:52:53 PM
REO - like a  lot of the AOR greats - were severely underrated as a band. Their ballad hits would eventually dwarf everything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJqdhHtm9ig

Related: I'm currently listening to Journey Greatest Hits Live - a live compilation from 1998 consisting of material from the Smith/Valory line-up at three gigs in Houston, Norman and Tokyo in 1981 and 1983. It went under the radar at the time and the band didn't take an interest in its release (they weren't on speaking terms, Perry had just refused to tour with them following the Trial By Fire reunion album due to his hip injury), but the quality of the old gigs is undeniable. Perry's voice just soars, Valory can be heard extremely well and throws in a lot of nice melodies, Schon's guitar (with much dirtier distortion than in the studio recordings) has feedback in places or even sometimes drops out, but he's on fire throughput. The sets are played raunchy, but with great heart, drive, energy and impeccable chops - you can envisage them smiling while at work. Nothing was added/corrected in the studio - it's basically well-produced (Kevin Shirley has done a brilliant job) soundboard recordings. On the basis of these recordings, Journey between 1981 and 1983 were just incredible as a live band.

I'm really impressed. Would have loved to have seen them back then, but they never toured Germany at the time, the home market kept them busy enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0&list=PLY_9P4i2TIReJBNM8MhQasCQP0kJHCTZw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EYS1LV10o&list=PLY_9P4i2TIReJBNM8MhQasCQP0kJHCTZw&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhfN3gjf3jI

Given the quality of their music and their performances all the derision that was heaped on them is criminal.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 06, 2022, 08:07:59 AM
REO was a great band up until that Hi Infidelity album where they got all syrupy and drenched in reverb.

I had a strong dislike for Journey when they were at their peak (my high school years), but in hindsight, the Gregg Rolie years had some pretty strong stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 06, 2022, 09:44:21 AM
For those who remember the Cold War, I highly recommend the Cagney movie "One, Two Three".  A great comedy set in West Berlin, mocking the Soviet Union (especially its corrupt officials) and with a story that accelerates beautifully as it goes.  It's a wonderful movie that has been mostly forgotten.

The plot revolves around Cagney as the ambitious head of the European division of Coca-Cola, located in West Berlin.  The head man of Coke sends his wayward daughter from Atlanta to  visit, in the hope that Cagney's character can keep her under control.  Instead, she goes to East Berlin and falls in love with a Communist lad played by a young Horst Bucholz. Ca

This clip is from the key sequence as all the plot lines come together and they head for the airport to meet the head of Coca-Cola who is coming to see his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaRLlGPfAE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on July 06, 2022, 10:41:09 AM
Three weird old Stax tunes to pick up . They had a knack for coming up with bizarre beginnings or middle sections . I think they were smoking too much pot .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhX4liVtuCc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkuDwfccREQ

and this one’s almost normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki0DG9-ZG0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 06, 2022, 03:08:58 PM
For those who remember the Cold War, I highly recommend the Cagney movie "One, Two Three".  A great comedy set in West Berlin, mocking the Soviet Union (especially its corrupt officials) and with a story that accelerates beautifully as it goes.  It's a wonderful movie that has been mostly forgotten.

The plot revolves around Cagney as the ambitious head of the European division of Coca-Cola, located in West Berlin.  The head man of Coke sends his wayward daughter from Atlanta to  visit, in the hope that Cagney's character can keep her under control.  Instead, she goes to East Berlin and falls in love with a Communist lad played by a young Horst Bucholz. Ca

This clip is from the key sequence as all the plot lines come together and they head for the airport to meet the head of Coca-Cola who is coming to see his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaRLlGPfAE

Mostly forgotten?! Not in Germany, it's an adored Billy Wilder classic. Film academy students are raised on this stuff. Don't tell me that Billy Wilder is forgotten too in the US?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Billy_Wilders_grave_%28978339409%29.jpg/1920px-Billy_Wilders_grave_%28978339409%29.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 06, 2022, 05:50:47 PM
Unfortunately mostly yes.  Directors who have passed away (other than John Ford and a few others) are mostly unknown.

I haven't met anyone in 20 years who had heard of One, Two, Three...but I agree it's a classic, and I'll bet most of those here are old enough to remember the Cold War.  I find that movie hilarious, and the pacing leading to the end practically leaves one breathless.

Not surprised that it's appreciated in Germany. The biting satire in the characters from the USSR is pervasive.  They are all corrupt, and most of them are pretty dumb too.

One of my favorite bits is Schlemmer, the assistant who clicks his heels at each order and insists he wasn't a Nazi...although he's revealed near the end.  And the entire secretarial pool, who all stand every time the boss passes through - then he yells "Sitzen machen!"
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 06, 2022, 09:51:48 PM
https://youtu.be/BCNZRotF8xw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2022, 05:31:43 AM
Unfortunately mostly yes.  Directors who have passed away (other than John Ford and a few others) are mostly unknown.

I haven't met anyone in 20 years who had heard of One, Two, Three...but I agree it's a classic, and I'll best most of those here are old enough to remember the Cold War.  I find that movie hilarious, and the pacing leading to the end practically leaves one breathless.

Not surprised that it's appreciated in Germany. The biting satire in the characters from the USSR is pervasive.  They are all corrupt, and most of them are pretty dumb too.

One of my favorite bits is Schlemmer, the assistant who clicks his heels at each order and insists he wasn't a Nazi...although he's revealed near the end.  And the entire secretarial pool, who all stand every time the boss passes through - then he yells "Sitzen machen!"

Among cineasts, Wilder is revered in Germany. Depending on your definition, he (born Samuel Wilder in Krakow, his mom nicknamed him "Billie" as a child, he anglicized it to "Billy" when moving to the States, yet always pronounced his last name as "Will-der" in German/Yiddish fashion, not as in wildlife) was Polish, Austrian, German and American. In that order - and Jewish all the time. His parents were murdered in the Holocaust, he was working in Berlin when the Nazi's took power, yet made it to America. His work is etched in German collective memory for the first documentary film on the concentration camp horrors and crimes "Death Mills/Todesmühlen" from as early as 1945 (be warned, it's a very tough watch):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLplA59Xnfo&t=236s

It was mandatory viewing (the beginning of re-educational de-nazification) for the German population in the US Occupation Zone and both my parents (aged 13 and 14 then) saw it in the local small town cinema - it left an indelible mark on them. When my mother spoke of the concentration camps, it was always the footage from that film she had in her head. Though I saw the film only much later (it is still occasionally shown on German TV - as a whole or in parts), I could recognize certain scenes from her descriptions, the starving man eating spilled food from the ground for instance.

The film has inaccuracies and generalizations plus draws the wrong conclusions from anecdotal observations in places (while not mentioning even greater horrors that only came to light later). Of course the Konzentrationslager system has been documented since then in much more comprehensive and focused fashion - historic research continues to this day, there are still criminal trials against concentration camp personnel (in their 90ies or 100s now) being conducted in Germany. But this is the film that brought the horror home to a German population for the first time and had a huge impact in instilling what can probably best be described as a national/generational feeling of collective shame and guilt. An eyeopener in the truest sense of the word.

Wilder's positive reception in Germany is therefore not just built on well-directed satirical comedies or great drama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMlJfiA2u7Y

BTW, he was approached to direct Schindler's List, but passed due to his age and recommended Spielberg to do it.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 07, 2022, 08:28:22 AM
Thanks for sharing that story.  It's a look at post-WWII Germany that we in the states have not seen. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 08, 2022, 06:52:37 AM
It was exactly the right thing to forcibly confront the German population with those horrors that had happened while most of them had looked the other way. Holocaust deniers or "what about"ers are therefore a thankfully rare breed in Germany today and you automatically put yourself outside any acceptable and sensible mainstream if you even start along those lines. With the last survivors/eye-witnesses dying away in the next few years, it's important to preserve the memory.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 08, 2022, 09:49:19 AM
I strongly agree.  The words "Lest we forget" come to mind.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 09, 2022, 07:19:23 AM
Found this in a Dick Dale mix from YouTube: Danelectro sighting!
https://youtu.be/9M4dZw37i7s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2022, 06:14:33 AM
Yes, with some very concentrated playing/hitting the right notes.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 11, 2022, 07:58:48 AM
Reverb unit as a "stomp" box. Nice!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2022, 06:04:48 AM
This song has been done to death a zillion times, but this is a version of it that really cptures the Chuck Berry sound without aping it, yet paying tribute (as intended) to Edgar's brother as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vXe8MGG3Q

The whole album is a cracker and recommended, a true labor of sibling love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdwbP845yFM

Not everything that Edgar has done, especially more recently, is great, but this album shines. He really had an ear for what his elder brother was doing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 13, 2022, 07:28:15 AM
I'll have to check this out. This past Saturday I was chatting with my buddy's dad who played bass with Johnny Winter in the early 60s. Johnny was living with him in Chicago for a while, and was my bud's godfather. And my buddy's name is Johnny. Also an awesome bass player.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 13, 2022, 08:42:30 AM
Johnny was often very entwined with his bass players, here at 03:25, NSFW unless you have a hopelessly dirty mind. Which no one here has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyJhrYju0ss
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 13, 2022, 10:04:59 PM
From the Johnny Winter And... album. Johnny on vocals

https://youtu.be/xbDl97F8TKM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2022, 04:23:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk7AVm0Ome0

Herr Franklin is immediately likable, has a good sense of self-deprecating humor and a story to tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBzFHJhkILg

I once saw him in a Whitesnake line up touring Restless Heart. He was the high point of a low gig where Coverdale was already struggling with his voice.

PS: And in case you wondered: I'm not binge-watching Stranger Things though I might in the future.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2022, 07:09:32 AM
No nose wrinkling yet, but her ears are cute ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgT4uNqo-GE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2022, 04:40:23 PM
Well, he was a skilled lyricist. No 4 in the German charts in 1980 (No 1 in Norway) – possibly because very few people understood what he was singing about. The Zappa fans loved him for that subversive entry. Introduced the English term “golden shower” to my unsuspecting country(wo)men before they could even get out their umbrellas. A cultural transfer so to leak. And ‘tower of power’ wasn’t name-checking the band either …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUq_T_Bhau8

This song is probabbly today perceived as very low pc, albeit for different reasons than back then!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 17, 2022, 04:06:26 PM
The Kursaal Flyers, a clever Brit pub rock band (fleetingly popular around the time when Dr Feelgood first caught attention) and their only - untypical for their other music - (freak) hit, a hilariously grandiose Phil Spector pastiche produced by Mike Batt who got the joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67689MU_28A

Generally, they were a lot more Brit RnB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCa3uLUimB4

They're still around:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryWJHw3tqDA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on July 18, 2022, 01:10:11 PM
Something a little different for me . Listening to a bunch of this stuff , will be trying some arrangements with some friends , and if we find enough similar material for a nights work might try some gigs .
But for the time being it’s simply a nice diversion . Another guilty pleasure .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ivN1thWg8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 25, 2022, 10:44:14 AM
Remarkable song about a remarkable man by favourite Welsh socialist agitprop'ers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_QGfzeiNb0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson

Were you aware of him in 50ies/60ies America, Dave?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 25, 2022, 11:13:23 AM
Bill McClintock is a genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_A6XC_EG4A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 25, 2022, 12:36:55 PM
For a variety of reasons, it makes a lot more sense to sing a love ode to marijuana/'Mary Jane' than to wail about drowned clergy. 'Mary Jane' was the former Neil Young bandmate's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQTE8hKvaaI

lifelong mistress  - or was it the other way around?

James was a complex personality and lived a wild life, he deserves a biopic of his own. He was so much more than the loudmouth disco artist he is known as. That said, when he appeared on German Rock Palast (a TV live show reserved for overwhelmingly rock bands) early 80ies, he showed that he can captivate a white bre(a)d rock kids audience by the sheer energy of his music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlqIfPQuTFY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 25, 2022, 01:16:22 PM
Maybe because they thought he had Eddie van Halen in his band?  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 25, 2022, 01:33:37 PM
(spluttering) You mean that wasn't Eddie playing in his band? !!!

I hate it when you atomize cherished myths, Holländer.

Can we at least agree on that it was George Lynch instead, pleeeeze?



I remember seeing this on TV and thinking what is the disco dude doing here, but he won me over quickly. Rock Palast did a lot for black artists over the years, they introduced Mothers Finest, Kid Creole & The Coconuts, Rick James and Prince to European rock audiences just based on the latters' all strong live act reputations.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 26, 2022, 02:04:18 AM
Ah yes, Mothers Finest at Rockpalast.
That has got to be one of the best live performances ever.
I think they owe the largest part of their career to that magical night in Essen. Europe fell head over heels for MF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiJxMEyPako


PS. that Rick James guitarist is Tom McDermott. I had to look him up. Never heard of him.
But if you had told me it was Brad Gillis I would have believed you too.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 26, 2022, 05:18:44 AM
And you wouldn't have been far off, before there was Night Ranger, Super Strats and Floyd Roses, there was a black Les Paul, satin shirts (and pants), dance moves and ... RUBICON (just look at him @22:05), a Sly & the Family Stone spin-off that had the wrong complexion (just like Mothers Finest, only in reverse):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbfp9Vm4C8A

Rick James would have been elated to have Brad in his band I think. And he wouldn't have minded if Brad had taken his Rubicon bass buddy - a cat named Jack B. - with him as well (@4:35):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6kkcN2dZBI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 26, 2022, 07:05:41 AM
Thanks for that Cal Jam II clip. I remember watching that when it first aired (must have been Don Kirshner's). MANY years later I found out that was Jack Blades. Hard to believe he used to play like that. I only knew him from Night Ranger.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 26, 2022, 07:11:52 AM
It's pretty baffling. With Night Ranger he doesn't slap or pop ever, even in songs where it would fit. He's still got the dance moves though!

Brad Gillis is one of the most severely underrated US axemen too. His solo here is priceless (and the 'biographic' vid in Spielberg style hilarious):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=has6r1zQPcI

And I'm to Night Ranger the same type of wuss Stewart was to Winger, I know.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MemorableHappyHorsechestnutleafminer-size_restricted.gif)

They encapsulate for me what is absolutely great about American melodic rock. And I'm not saying that in irony (sic!), but out of admiration and envy. (An unironic statement from me - and you thought I didn't have it in me, shame on you!)

Still going strong too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyPnpE0j00

It's a pity they hardly ever come to Europe, much less Continental Europe. I only saw them once, at the beginning of their career, with their debut album just leaving college radio and making inroads with regular FM, in a small club in Orlando (with a great crowd outside hoping in vain to get in - it was sold out) that didn't even feature an elevated stage. Great gig it was. They looked and acted like they had just stepped out of that small blue Volkswagen bus in the 'biopic' vid above.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 27, 2022, 09:01:17 AM
It's a pity they hardly ever come to Europe, much less Continental Europe.

At least they can still rock in America.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 27, 2022, 09:45:24 AM
Lil' card-carrying GOP-fan boy, but I like the guy ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uUW-9IVis
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 29, 2022, 09:05:35 AM
A wuss fest: Alan Parsons meets Styx!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPb58H55A7Q&t=211s

Had to look up what it meant, an (o)uroboros is apparently an ancient symbol of a serpent dragon eating its own tail.

(https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/38931836?v=4)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on July 29, 2022, 04:07:16 PM
That reminds me of Klaus Voormann's artwork on Turbonegro's Scandinavian Leather:

(https://www.amty.se/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Turbonegro-%E2%80%93-Scandinavian-Leather.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 31, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
This was posted in a discussion else where about Cream. The band is apparently from Detroit. They really nailed this one.

https://youtu.be/6bOSQRDYpgU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 01, 2022, 04:34:55 AM
They're all good, but especially the drummer - Ginger Baker was key for the Cream sound.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 01, 2022, 09:27:44 AM
After watching that, You Tube gave me this as a suggestion. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFFO_r-VV2w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 01, 2022, 11:31:46 AM
MG, they were kids back then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 02, 2022, 12:02:05 AM
They're all good, but especially the drummer - Ginger Baker was key for the Cream sound.

Yeah, he has the feel. Singer has Jack's vocal technique down well too.

After watching that, You Tube gave me this as a suggestion. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFFO_r-VV2w

Now that was interesting!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 02, 2022, 01:14:03 AM
Much more interesting than, for example, when you listen to demos/studio sessions by the Beatles.  Some of those early stage Beatles songs can be actually painful to listen to.  It makes me think that there was a tremendous amount of raw talent packed into Cream.  Besides that, just look what they did in the mere two years of their career.  There will never be another Cream.  I'm a Beatles fan, but also just stating the facts. 

I'm basing my impressions of the Beatles in the studio working on songs mostly on the Anthology series.  Many times they had to go through quite a laborious process to perfect their songs.  Personally, I don't always want to have to listen to all of that.  Of course we don't have anything comparable to the Beatles Anthology CDs for Cream.  We don't know for sure how they sounded working on songs in the studio for the most part.  I suppose the negative thing for Cream is that playing live they could sometimes run jamming into the ground.   This is basically what Tom Hamilton said about them upon hearing Cream live for the first time. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 03, 2022, 04:32:54 AM
The Beatles were songcraftsmen, they sucked at/saw no value in improvisations, preferring a very controlled studio environment, which is perfectly ok. With Cream it was more the other way around (though they - especially Bruce - were still better songwriters than the Beatles were improvisers), which is fine too, nothing wrong with being a jam band. Horses for courses, some peole like to "hear the songs they know and how they know them" and I'm more the type who grows listless if after the third song in a set a band still hasn't deviated from the studio versions.

I once left a Rush gig early (Permanent Waves tour) because they bored me stiff recreating their studio sound and arrangements - for all the complexity and creativity of their music, there was zilch improvisation, just utter concentration on stage. Girlschool were the opening act and while nobody in Girlschool would be good enough to even be a stage technician with the Rush crew, they sounded fresh, unperturbed and raunchy in comparison. Not that there was much improvisation  :mrgreen:, but they weren't obsessed with  reproducing their studio sound at the expense of a performance either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNWo93fPG8

To the defense of Rush, I have to say that their stiff earnestness in performing their music left them as their career progressed.  I saw them 30 years later again and it was a fun experience.

And the late Kelly Johnson of Girlschool was as close as you could ever reasonably get to hearing Farrah Fawcett play lead guitar in a hard rock setting - what's not to like?!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 03, 2022, 06:49:00 AM
I think Girlschool must have been inspirational for several female bands.  I keep hearing about them.  Personally, though, it can be hard for me to focus on a band that's had a lot of lineup changes.

Since I've listened to practically every Jimi Hendrix recording in existence, I can say that he rarely, if ever, played a song in the same way twice.  That may be why I like his live recordings so much.  It's too bad that there aren't many of them out there.  The bootleg recordings are useless--something I've mentioned in a previous thread.  Needless to say, when you've got amateurs in the audience using 60s technology to record, you can't expect too much.  But the rare recordings professionally recorded such as "Hendrix in the West" especially are pleasant to listen to. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 03, 2022, 07:26:03 AM
Compared to Rush, Girlschool are of course only a footnote in rock history. Even among all-women-bands, they were certainly no Fanny in terms of natural musicality (with which the latter brimmed by any standard).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q80UWYkKNzk

Yet also definitely more fluid than The Runaways with their "Look, we've just learned this!"-rehearsal room charm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcCPNHIwRK8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 03, 2022, 08:20:10 AM
You should check out Birtha too. Criminally overlooked, bonafide rock-band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn1Z4dMDbx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKWtnFM92DQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 03, 2022, 08:53:45 AM
Wow, those ladies can ROCK!  Great stuff.  The lead singer is verging on Joplin territory with that voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 03, 2022, 10:19:26 AM
You should check out Birtha too. Criminally overlooked, bonafide rock-band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn1Z4dMDbx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKWtnFM92DQ

Sure I know Birtha, they were ven earlier than Fanny. Fine band too. Have a compilation CD, their stuff is hard to get (on CD).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 03, 2022, 11:42:58 AM
their stuff is hard to get (on CD).
You can say that again. I tried to find a CD about ten years ago. But couldn't find it.
Where did you score yours?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 03, 2022, 12:34:46 PM
Amazon. 40 EUR a couple of years ago, used. Meanwhile prices are even more crazy:

https://www.amazon.de/Birtha-CanT-Stop-Madness/dp/B0000011BY/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=33FK5OGDHHD6A&keywords=birtha+cd&qid=1659555077&sprefix=birtha+cd%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-3

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 04, 2022, 01:27:36 AM
 :o

I don't need it that badly!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 04, 2022, 03:06:08 AM
Some stuff just doesn't get rereleased on CD. It's available on CD only for a short time due to a limited license, doesn't sell enough during that time frame and is then relegated to the vaults ...

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SkeletalDevotedCondor.webp)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 04, 2022, 08:50:01 AM
Wow, digging Birtha! Fun stuff. And check out the J pup added to a P Bass in 1972.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on August 07, 2022, 07:34:26 AM
Blackmore's Night for me lately.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 07, 2022, 02:32:43 PM
Ouch, now what did I do to deserve such scathing ridicule and mockery, Denis?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3PlejXFqro

Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8HiZepRWo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Denis on August 08, 2022, 06:04:27 AM
You pulled those links so quickly, Uwe. It's almost like you were just watching and enjoying them. :)

Ouch, now what did I do to deserve such scathing ridicule and mockery, Denis?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3PlejXFqro

Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8HiZepRWo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 08, 2022, 06:35:54 AM
I trudge to a gig of every friggin' Blackmore's Night tour in Deutshland. I've probably seen them 20 times over the decades. Yet it is painful/embarrassing every time for me, some of the music is beyond banal (and minutes later there is a short flash of brilliance from Blackmore in another song) and the medieval fair visuals of the band and their diehard fans grate on me. If I have to hear the sway-happy Renaissance Faire (always a crowd favorite)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWt9zoW8kE

one more time (and I no doubt will), I'll have to shoot myself.

Candice's voice has gained strength and authority over the years and she hits notes acurately, but her delivery is one-dimensional and the lyrics ... spare me! And as his years with BN strumming acousitc instruments add up, Ritchie's capabilities on a Strat diminish via sheer non-use/non-practice: The man who once commanded the instrument with elegance, energy, skill and mischievous finesse, by now sounds awkward with it (as anyone would who spends so little time playing electric guitar and so much with various acoustic instruments).

File me under "glutton for punishment/repeat offender".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 15, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Well, he didn't get the job with the Eagles for nothing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0AsYhln0qw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 16, 2022, 07:39:10 AM
Wow, that's some great singing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 16, 2022, 11:52:04 AM
Yup, he sure can do it. Yes, it owes a lot to Crosby, Stills & Nash, but there are worse role models to have.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2022, 04:48:53 AM
Epitomizes "catchy" for me, first heard it in 1981 on my first visit to the States (Detroit), never left my brain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ePSJ44Fiw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 17, 2022, 07:13:47 AM
Yup, he sure can do it. Yes, it owes a lot to Crosby, Stills & Nash, but there are worse role models to have.

Totally. I actually stumbled across a Graham Nash tune with the same title while I was trying to figure out which member of CSN that TBS sounded most like.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2022, 07:59:40 AM
Frey's/Henley's lot owe a lot to CSN(&Y). They basically took out the proggie and counterculture ingredients and made it palatable to the masses. CSN(&Y) were more improvisational though - that is a term not listed in Henley's vocabulary.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 17, 2022, 11:07:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsjtzbxpa2g

Fun and funky

btw, my iphone doesn't display videos since it's last update. Is it my phone or is it the forum?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2022, 11:18:38 AM
Your settings old man!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 17, 2022, 11:38:00 AM
Exactly what do I need to do in settings? This new fangled tech is beyond me for the most part. I figured out my printer wouldn't print recently because somehow commands were being designated to the wrong printer all of a sudden. One day I couldn't sign in to quick books and all I had to do was restart the computer to get it going again. Could you help me out lad?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2022, 11:57:05 AM
I'm the wrong man to ask unfortunately because I'm still smarting from having to give up my BlackBerry (best business cell ever!) and I'm only "monkey see - monkey do"-acquainted with my iPhone, I actually still try to avoid using it as opposed to my BlackBerry from which I was inseparable. As an Android person, nothing on that goddamn thing strikes me as intuitive. Made for teenagers by teenagers.

My pet theory is that Steve Jobs - albeit secretly - was a member of Led Zep. That would really explain it all.

Given the prevalence of these ghastly things, I'm sure you'll have an answer soon here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 18, 2022, 06:08:46 AM
That vid is just so lovely everytime I see it and encapsulates what GFR were about. Brewer's fro was nothing short of frillin' epic. And Craig Frost didn't like riding motorbikes - typically keyboarder, worried about his hands, the sissy.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pErX-HPyM

And as the bare-chested riding of stallions goes, I hate to say, Vladimir, Mark invented it all.

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ee/20/ed/ee20ede1b90d38da22bf7ec4e62da7aa--grand-funk-railroad-riding-horses.jpg)


(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/06/16/world/17iht-letter17/17iht-letter17-superJumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 18, 2022, 08:25:07 AM
And Craig Frost didn't like riding motorbikes - typically keyboarder, worried about his hands, the sissy.  :mrgreen:

I'd take the Pantera anyway.  ;D

That video very much represents an era.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 18, 2022, 09:14:03 AM
Oh, so that is what the car is called, I was wondering. It's a very elegant, timeless, non-muscle car design. There are things Italians can do right except making love and preparing food after all (mind you: qualities that can get you a long way!).

IMHO, GFR benefitted no end from Craig Frost joining. And I always liked the way he played, also in his later career with Bob Seger. He's still with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kxkyM0E38

His stint with Flint (the Farner-devoid GFR remnant with the greatest hair and beards imaginable, long before ZZ Top) where the guitar took a backseat to his "lead keyboards" left some great music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofgr0N91ses

They sure found someone who sounded a lot like Farner, that is definitely not Don Brewer singing!


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 19, 2022, 07:20:32 AM
Oh, so that is what the car is called, I was wondering. It's a very elegant, timeless, non-muscle car design. There are things Italians can do right except making love and preparing food after all (mind you: qualities that can get you a long way!).

Italian De Tomaso body with a Ford 351 Cleveland in the rear (calm yourself...). Sold at Lincoln-Mercury dealerships, where my dad worked as a mechanic. He hated working on those things. Lots of cooling issues in the earlier runs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 19, 2022, 09:40:38 AM
I said it's Italian, I didn't say it would last long!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 21, 2022, 06:19:17 PM
I just love this version of Harlem Nocturne, which is one of those truly evocative pieces you just can't forget.  Danny Gatton was a unique talent.

There are a few different versions of this on YouTube, because they never seem to have played it twice the same way.  I really like this version.

https://youtu.be/zXOMhYW8mXk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 03:44:30 AM
Nice solos (not just by guitar), Gatton's notes-jump-out-the-fretboard phrasing sounds similar to Gary Moore's, probably the jazz influence both had.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 22, 2022, 05:26:28 AM
I'm still trying to get through this, since I only seem to be able to harness the sort of uninterrupted time required for such listening on a long trip in a car with a CD player. While it may be redundant to some, anyone who appreciates the benchmark nature of SITN should love having access the full compendium of the shows from which its tracks were culled. Both the genius of UFO-era Schenker and the always-acerbic Phil Mogg stage banter are on display here, but also of note is overall rock-solid nature of the band itself during this stretch of shows. Having read Pete way's book, it couldn't have been easy. Well worth the $35.
(https://i.imgur.com/vZuyene.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 05:41:35 AM
That's a very good boxed set, I have it too and enjoyed listening to it, there is not a bad show among it though UFO are not the most improvisational outfit, with Schenker being the only soloist of note in the band. But even he 'just' knows his game and sticks to it most of the time.

BTW: In a hard rock context, Mogg's baritone voice worked (even live) better than, say, Phil Lynott's to my ears. Through all of Schenker's riffage, he always found a way to weave in his vocals without having to scream over or against the music or strain, yet remained clearly audible (Lynott was more convincing putting his voice above the music in the studio than live). No mean feat. And while Schenker always complained that Mogg didn't do enough melodic embellishments with his voice, his more simplistic and matter of fact vocal lines defined the UFO sound together with Schenker's Wunderkind-guitar.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 22, 2022, 07:25:03 AM
That's a very good boxed set, I have it too and enjoyed listening to it, there is not a bad show among it though UFO are not the most improvisational outfit, with Schenker being the only soloist of note in the band. But even he 'just' knows his game and sticks to it most of the time.

BTW: In a hard rock context, Mogg's baritone voice worked (even live) better than, say, Phil Lynott's to my ears. Through all of Schenker's riffage, he always found a way to weave in his vocals without having to scream over or against the music or strain, yet remained clearly audible (Lynott was more convincing putting his voice above the music in the studio than live). No mean feat. And while Schenker always complained that Mogg didn't do enough melodic embellishments with his voice, his more simplistic and matter of fact vocal lines defined the UFO sound together with Schenker's Wunderkind-guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2cux_6Rcw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 07:43:43 AM
Wenn schon, denn schon: Die komplette Szene bitte!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2JnCXvm_Qc

While my countryman never reaped the benefit of the UFO guys teaching him pröper English, he sure elevated them from their stoner rock beginnings!

I'm as usual the odd man out, my favorite Schenker-era UFO album is the one with Danny Peyronel: No Heavy Petting (which no upstanding UFO fan seems to like), great stuff on that! I believe a still inscure Schenker felt intimidated by Peyronel's considerable songwriting prowess and wanted UFO for himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3zo2zoKUE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9YpI0RkNOc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 22, 2022, 11:04:43 AM
Wenn schon, denn schon: Die komplette Szene bitte!  :mrgreen:

My apologies - I sometimes incorrectly assume that my audience has too short of an attention span for lengthy videos. I am an American, after all.
I will attempt to compensate for the brevity with my personal UFO tale, to wit:
I first heard of them in 1976 in an odd sort of way. I had brought the first Yesterday & Today album over to a friends house for him to preview. He said "These guys are good - they kind of sound like UFO." Ummmmm... who? So, when Lights Out was released, I went out to buy it and fell in love (to love). Not long thereafter, I had the opportunity to see them in a seedy NJ club. I had my fake ID. I had a table at the front of the stage, right in Schenker's orbit. I was all set - until out walked a slightly chubby, sweaty guy in black leather... Paul Chapman, called in to fill in for the recently vanished blonde axeman. The band was good enough, but I was distraught and felt cheated. Fast forward a year or so - I secured tickets to another NJ show, a theater this time. Two weeks before the show, I was diagnosed with mononucleosis and was rendered flat on my back for eight weeks. My friend, who I had purchased the tickets with, went to the show and assured me that Schenker was present, accounted for and predictably amazing. Eventually, I healed up and resumed attending shows. Again, fast forward a year - UFO was opening for Cheap Trick at The Capitol Theatre in Passaic, NJ. I had seats near the front and was prepared for an onslaught of Teutonic guitar greatness. The lights dimmed, the SITN introduction almost a carbon copy of the album... and then a hauntingly familiar, already moist figure emerged from the shadows. Good Lord, NO!!! If I was distraught the first time, this had to be something more - perhaps sadness mixed with rage at my own horrendous luck. I attempted to extract an explanation from Phil Mogg by screaming out "Where's Schenker?" at him between songs. Repeatedly. Finally, in between "Cherry" and "Love To Love" my query got the best of its target, who uttered a single word - "Dead." - in response. This brief exchange (barely audible and immortalized at around the 11:20 mark), ultimately caused me to submit and accept my destiny. I eventually got to see Schenker in the first incarnation of MSG, but I am forever tortured by what preceded. The presence of Cozy and Paul Raymond onstage were small compensation - I hated Gary Barden and there is no substitute for Pete Way in his prime. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGpp_gKoms
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 02:29:50 PM
Ok, that's admittedly tragic. Console yourself that I never got to see UFO with der blonde Axtmensch either, only with Atomic Tommy (and ex-Damned Paul Gray on bass) in the mid 80ies and sometime in the last 10 years or so with Vinnie Moore. I preferred Atomic Tommy, he was a cardboard Manga shredder, but he was fun und put his heart in it. 'Tonka' Chapman was, well workmanlike and reliable as a guitarist, but Schenker had overdone his ad hoc departures by then, so you can't really blame the band, they were looking for stability.

People who saw UFO in the mid-70ies in Germany with Schenker (where at the peak of their success they could fill a mid size hall in some areas - at least if an American garrison and pay day was near) tell me they were a force to be reckoned with. I've seen Schenker a few times since then with MSG or whatever his backing outfit was called at the time. Oh, and once with the Scorpions on the Love Drive tour when he had shortly returned only to be AWOL soon again. It was palpable how much he hated playing his brother's songs and Uli Roth's lead lines at the time, he was so withdrawn on stage, he might as well have been a touring musician only. A pale shadow of the virtuoso presence Uli Roth had been wiff ze Scorps.

I'm with you re Gary Barden, affected voice and prancing around on stage. Mogg was manly and a cool cat. He should have sucker punched his Kraut guitarist a little less often though, Michael didn't handle that well at all.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 22, 2022, 04:01:31 PM
Oh, and once with the Scorpions on the Love Drive tour when he had shortly returned only to be AWOL soon again. It was palpable how much he hated playing his brother's songs and Uli Roth's lead lines at the time, he was so withdrawn on stage, he might as well have been a touring musician only. A pale shadow of the virtuoso presence Uli Roth had been wiff ze Scorps.

Believe it or not, I had a Scorpions poster in my room as a youngun that’s was from that period, as it featured der brothers. Also, I neglected to mention that I managed to get both Michael and Cozy’s autograph at that MSG show, so there was some small amount of redemption.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 04:24:07 PM
Lonesome Crow (the first Scorpions album) is formative, but has Krautrock charm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgD12JZuKNk

(Dunno, but I guess Klaus was applying for a role as an extra in Das Boot at the time ...)

(https://static.kino.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/large-1498558343-7-rcm480x270u.jpg)

But then young Michael was poached by these nasty Engländers and Uli Jon Roth (legend has it he was recommended to the Scorpions by Michael) merged his Dawn trio into the Scorpions, putting his stamp on ze Scorps for the next four studio albums (Fly to the Rainbow, In Trance, Virgin Killer, Taken by Force). Even where the songs were written by Rudolf and Klaus, his solos determined the Scorpions sound. And when the baby brother returned for Love Drive he found it hard to be saddled with all the baggage from the Roth years.

Roger Glover's production gave that first MSG album a good sound though - and I preferred Simon Phillips to Cozy. Do you like Ronnie Romero (on loan from Rainbow) better than Gary B?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZsvz85Frk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWRsuIo7wSg

He can even do a credible Mogg, the Chilean kid discovered by Ms Blackmore on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrK3HYEBR4

That extreme bending he does in Doctor Doctor's guitar melody has always impressed me. Even he doesn't get it always right live and there is sometimes a dud note, but still ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFIvVB2638
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 22, 2022, 05:56:46 PM
He is preferable, yes. I would have liked to see more of Derek St Holmes as well, but he was primarily there as a second vocalist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 22, 2022, 11:40:20 PM
St. Holmes? Whenever he opened his mouth, he put Gary Barden to shame, like here at 02:03:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp0pC5P1BUU

To be fair, that Graham Bonnet stuff is excruciating to sing, all singers have issues doing Bonnet material, it has been the curse of Rainbow.

Credit to the Chilean kid for getting even the Bonnet parts right like he does here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDn6fW6l9s0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 23, 2022, 08:51:55 AM
St. Holmes? Whenever he opened his mouth, he put Gary Barden to shame

Derek is in that category of singers who seem to defy age, vocally. Say what people will about Ted, when he aligns himself with a lead singer, it's
usually somebody unknown but very accomplished. Oddly, as good as Derek was/is, though, none of his post-Nuge projects have yielded much in the way of commercial success. I saw Whitfiord-St Holmes a few years back opening for Whitesnake and they were good, but lacked the "feel" of being a band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2022, 04:15:23 AM
I know what you mean, they have the feel of a couple of old weathered geezers getting together for  the moment - which after all is what they are. And Whitford - though I prefer his terse yet succinct solos within Aerosmith to his fellow guitarist's sometimes throwaway playing masked by the latter's rock'n'roll pose - is no Joe Perry on stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3T34cbebQ

Whitford and Holmes are forever the talented, yet less visible "middle children" living in the shadow of their more flamboyant siblings, meaning Uncle Ted and the Tyler/Perry duo.

Much like Blackmore, Nugent knows a good musician when he sees one, whether the latter is known or not. He seeks out people with huge talent and little ego (to protet his own status). People being people that only works for a while though until their ego catches up and clashes with his.

When Holmes was with MSG, Michael wasn't - as usual - in a very good place. And for some reason, Schenker has this solitary vision that a lead singer in his band doesn't play additional guitar, perhaps because he wants that covered to this day by a part time keyboarder in the Paul Raymond mode  (just as he doesn't want a "real" keyboarder playing all the time). That might account for why he never really stopped to think and give Derek the lead vocalist status, preferring to limp on with Gary Barden who was at no time uncontested in his role within MSG. St. Holmes was invited to MSG at the instigation of MSG's then American management, they obviously envisaged a more prominent role for him, but Schenker was obstinate as usual.

With St. Holmes on lead vocals (at the demand of the management):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npY4CqP75RU

Same song with Gary Barden on lead vocals, he sounds flat and at the end of his range:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iquVX-xfpWk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2022, 07:59:26 AM

Credit to the Chilean kid for getting even the Bonnet parts right like he does here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDn6fW6l9s0

I find him hard to listen to. He always sounds to me like he has no idea of what he's singing. Weird pronunciation of words, or sometimes wrong words even.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2022, 08:58:25 AM
I know exactly what you mean and it used to be much, much worse, but he still has some way to go, yet he's learning (at those first Rainbow gigs in 2016 it bordered on the hilarious with his then strictly phonetic singing). Not that Michael Schenker (after 50 years of living in English-speaking countries, mein Gott, er macht uns alle zu Narren!) is a master of ze Engleesh langwich who could help him a lot.

I just didn't raise it this time because I didn't want to be Mr Arrogant pointing fingers at someone's accent and maybe less than complete grasp of English (I did that once at the Dudepit with Rudy Sarzo's then very heavy Cubano-English and it has haunted me ever since, it was a real cheap shot from me), especially when he has put in some hard work as Ronnie obviously has. But you as a Dutchman with your fearsome no-frills national directness eschewing any type of diplomacy and naming all pink elephants in the room went straight for it of course ...  :mrgreen: Diese Holländer ... But you're right, he'd probably be much better if he sang in Spanish, his mother tongue.

Arnel Pineda of modern day Journey had a similar issue, I wasn't all that sure whether he really understood what he was singing about with those Steve Perry lyrics initially either. But he's perked up considerably (and his English was from the start better than Ronnie Romero's), listen to him now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiZtygiepP0

Then again I sometimes think that you and I as non-native speakers obsess about stuff like that while mother tongue Yanks or Limeys just shrug it off. I alwys thought Klaus Meine's English cringeworthy (most Germans do) and feared the Scorpions would be laughed at in the States, but no such thing ever happened (zere vould be zome jökes about it in ze Eeengleesh rock press, but not really mean-spirited). I've raised it often with American rock fans and they seem pretty oblivious to the whole accent- and "does he really know what he is singing about"-thing. And then there are acts like ABBA where the "singing/sång in Swedenglish" is part of their undeniable charm. The "where they play the right myoo-zick"

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/cf/fc/66cffccfe554e0c1d00e97a02125b659.png)

at 00:55-57 (and repeated more often in the course of the song) makes Edith and me crack up every time to this day, but we wouldn't want it any other way.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s

But even Agnetha and Frida were more convincing in svenska.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUUhu6Fi9ds

When they sang in English they always sounded a bit removed from the subject matter, which they probably were given that the  flickor/girls had zero input with the lyrics.

Sigh, Agnetha's blue glam outfit is still iconic after all these years ... Jag älskar dig!  :-*



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2022, 10:00:19 AM
Well, this is not an international political conference is it? So let's leave false diplomacy out please. :mrgreen:

I have no problems with artists singing English with a bit of an accent (like Abba or even Scorpions). As long as they understand what they're singing about and translate that into the right emotion.
But Romero seems to have no clue. (Hence the soulless singing maybe?)

I saw a Japanese Thin Lizzy tribute once in Dublin. They spoke zero English. And it was hilarious how they sang the songs phonetically.  :mrgreen:

Word has it that Bert Heerink of Vandenberg had no clue what he sang either (on most of the songs) when they recorded the first album. He learned a large part of the words phonetically. But it did work in the end.

With Schenker it seems his accent has deteriorated. He used to speak better English then he does these days.

https://youtu.be/D36SwVZfIKU?t=163


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 24, 2022, 10:43:13 AM
I just didn't raise it this time because I didn't want to be Mr Arrogant pointing fingers at someone's accent and maybe less than complete grasp of English (I did that once at the Dudepit with Rudy Sarzo's then very heavy Cubano-English and it has haunted me ever since, it was a real cheap shot from me), especially when he has put in some hard work as Ronnie obviously has.

Making fun of accents? How positively American of you! That used to be pretty much a national pastime here until we became so thin-skinned, sigh...
Even those of us 'mericans who claim English as our native tongue butcher the language in one way or another - depending on the region or state that we hail from - and are routinely skewered for it by those in other areas whose linguistics are even worse. My own sons have poked fun at my guttural NJ accent and pronunciation over the years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 24, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
Americans have long made fun of the accents within the US.  Mobsters are often portrayed with various New York area accents.

And Tom Lehrer included this line in "It makes a Fella Proud to be a Soldier" in 1959:

Our captain has a handicap to cope with, sad to tell.
He's from Georgia, and he doesn't speak the language very well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDdxlqrpnQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2022, 12:52:55 PM
Poking fun at regional accents is one thing (and common in Germany too though I'm no good at doing impressions of other regional accents, my wife is though), but ethnic accents of immigrant minorities is another matter. At the time, I wasn't ridiculing a Miami accent but Rudy's then (it was his Whitesnake era, judging from more recent interviews he's lost most of it) inability to speak "proper English" after decades of being an American (but probably in an environment where most people around him continued to speak Spanish), he sounded like a Mexican bandido with gun belts across his chest in a 50ies black & white cowboy film. In hindsight, my pronunciation arrogance left a sour taste with me (long before 'political correctness' became a catchphrase) though I am generally not perceived as being all too touchy - or hesitant - as (my own) low pc remarks go.  :-X

Whenever I hear the brilliant Tom Lehrer say a German word or phrase, it becomes evident to me that he must have grown up hearing and/or speaking fluent German. Some second generation immigrant story behind that. His parents, Moses and Anna, secular Jews, came to America before darkness engulfed Germany and most of Europe.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 24, 2022, 01:06:27 PM
We had so many Indian students that I can do Apu very well.  But I'm careful about who hears me when I do it.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2-prod.mirror.co.uk%2Fincoming%2Farticle13487940.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fs615b%2F0_The-Simpsons.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2022, 03:17:10 PM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 24, 2022, 09:15:24 PM
Speaking of  Derek St. Holmes ... Big People, the Millenium supergroup that went underneath the radar ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRzh4XE4z8

Having Benjamin Orr play bass on Nugent songs, Pat Travers play keyboards on Cars songs and Derek St. Holmes sing 38 Special hits sounds lik a recipe for disaster, but audibly it worked. Too bad they never recorded their own material.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 25, 2022, 05:39:03 AM
That hyper-active drummer reminds me of Kenny Aaronoff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 07:11:40 AM
That hyper-active drummer reminds me of Kenny Aaronoff.

Liberty DeVitto - Billy Joel's drummer on almost all his classic stuff. He's a good guy. Yeah, there is a similarity to Aaronoff, though. Could be worse.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 25, 2022, 07:21:26 AM
Vince Gill, Sheryl Crow, Albert Lee, Keb' Mo, Earl Klugh and James Burton do Clapton

https://youtu.be/nOXf9oAGfDw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 25, 2022, 07:41:14 AM
Speaking of  Derek St. Holmes ... Big People, the Millenium supergroup that went underneath the radar ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRzh4XE4z8

Having Benjamin Orr play bass on Nugent songs, Pat Travers play keyboards on Cars songs and Derek St. Holmes sing 38 Special hits sounds lik a recipe for disaster, but audibly it worked. Too bad they never recorded their own material.

I thought they were supposed to do an album... I think that project crashed mostly because Ben Orr got sick and ultimately passed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 25, 2022, 09:25:11 AM
Speaking of  Derek St. Holmes ... Big People, the Millenium supergroup that went underneath the radar ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRzh4XE4z8

Having Benjamin Orr play bass on Nugent songs, Pat Travers play keyboards on Cars songs and Derek St. Holmes sing 38 Special hits sounds lik a recipe for disaster, but audibly it worked. Too bad they never recorded their own material.

Huh, what a weird combo! I'll have to watch more later.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
I thought they were supposed to do an album... I think that project crashed mostly because Ben Orr got sick and ultimately passed.

Yes, they all say that Orr was the glue that held everything together. This is him three months before his death, singing and playing great, but looking at him in that oversized coat you can he was on the reaper's list. Pancreati cancer, he died October 3, 2000, aged 53.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLD9fZDl0w

They did play that Cars stuff with gusto. More gusto than the Cars often refrained from showing.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2022, 05:01:34 PM
Vince Gill, Sheryl Crow, Albert Lee, Keb' Mo, Earl Klugh and James Burton do Clapton

https://youtu.be/nOXf9oAGfDw

And who co-wrote it? My heroine Marcella Detroit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ohMwjuDyp4

Otherwise known as the edgy half of the brilliant Shakespears Sisters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8mVXmmmFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d022vGBC75o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 04:33:18 AM
Today 32 years ago Stevie Ray Vaughan died in a terrible helicopter crash.
As far as I'm concerned one of the greatest (if not the greatest) guitarists the world has ever seen.

RIP SRV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC5H9P4F5Uk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 09:29:02 AM
Ok, Rob, so then the pentatonic blues scale is the be-and-end-all for you?  :mrgreen:

SVR had incredible tone and fluidity, but there's eleven half-steps on the fretboard before reaching the octave, not just five and a couple of bendings. It’s a bit like calling someone who speaks only one language the best linguist in the world.

My vote goes to Jeff Beck. Loss of SVR was tragic though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
 :rolleyes: It's not about scales Uwe. It's about emotion.
Almost no other guitarist has the ability to move me like SRV did.
He was other-worldly.

And I do believe your knowledge of SRV repertoire is somewhat limited maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUiYRxAns5A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 12:03:50 PM
The Dutchman says it's not about scales!
Now that's a good one!


(https://c.tenor.com/q9ZlsZdex7cAAAAd/enemy-mine-alien.gif)

Ok, granted, Stevie could transport emotion. So can others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZJNbVRmI80

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 27, 2022, 12:41:07 PM
Stevie's playing seems a bit too coke-blitzed to really move me. That brash Strat tone coupled with a backing band so gated, compressed and limited that they sound like a midi backing track. Probably very thrilling to witness in a sweaty club in 1983 at high volume.

If SRV existed in a vacuum then I might look more favourably on his work, but the incessant army of whiteboy gurning-faced faux emotional Texas Blooz copyists ruin it for me.

SRV for me is a bit like the Amy Winehouse of guitar. As a Caucasian artist you can only begin to approach a degree of (heavily moderated) "authenticity" by living a recklessly self destructive lifestyle. There are other ways, people!

I reckon the old guys like Les Paul or Chet Atkins are the best guitarists. They learned the guitar fretboard like a keyboard, understanding where every note was and where every interval fell. Guitarists became more reliant on route-maps through the frets over time. I doubt SRV could hang with a jazz orchestra without reverting to blues licks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 12:56:03 PM
Netherlands vs Scotland !!!

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Germany stays neutral for once. But if I'm honest, SRV's work with David Bowie is THE MOST INTERESTING to me - I liked the contrast he brought to the proceedings and his guitar playing really shone. Playing with his own blues trio was too much comfort zone for me at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asEfwfd0ziA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 01:09:57 PM
He got clean in 1986 and recorded a Grammy Award winning album. (and another with his brother Jimmy)

Nothing coke fueled about this 1989 performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu7haLxD2WM


And he wasn't unfamiliar with Jazz by the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GuzUQI3IS8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 27, 2022, 01:30:24 PM
I never quite understood why I could never get into his music.  He was really good and I like that genre.  But for some undetermined reason something didn't click for me.  I could see people enthusiastic about his music, but that just didn't register with me.  Trying to listen to the music more didn't help any. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 27, 2022, 01:33:07 PM
Netherlands vs Scotland !!!

Aren't you glad this isn't a cookery forum?

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 01:37:42 PM
WE HAVE TO ASK AN EXPERT !!!

What is Ritchie Blackmore’s opinion on Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan:

“I was impressed by Hendrix. Not so much by his playing, as his attitude – he wasn’t a great player, but everything else about him was brilliant. Even the way he walked was amazing. His guitar playing, though, was always a little bit weird. Hendrix inspired me, but I was still more into Wes Montgomery. I was also into the Allman Brothers around the time of those albums.”

Blackmore doesn’t hide that he “stole” many guitar riffs from songs that he used to listen. The musician recalled in an old TV interview posted by Ritchie Blackmore Youtube Channel that the ideia for “‘Speed King’ was based on ‘Stone Free’ by Jimi Hendrix. “I really liked his stuff at the time. And there is a little bit of ‘Fire’, do you remember ‘Fire’ by Jimi Hendrix?” Blackmore said.

What did you think of Stevie Ray Vaughan?

“I knew that question was coming. His death was very tragic, but I’m surprised that everybody thinks he was such a brilliant player when there are people like Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Peter Green and Mick Taylor; Johnny Winter, who is one of the best blues players in the world, is also very underrated. His vibrato is incredible. Stevie Ray Vaughan was very intense. Maybe that’s what caught everybody’s attention. As a player, he didn’t do anything amazing.”
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 01:41:44 PM
Aren't you glad this isn't a cookery forum?

(https://c.tenor.com/073A7_SepmAAAAAC/christoph-waltz-hans-landa.gif)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 01:49:42 PM
Yeah, let's ask Gandalf! :mrgreen:

(https://www.furious.com/perfect/graphics/ritchie-blackmore-bn_promo_2003.jpg)


Who cares what that buffoon minstrel thinks?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 27, 2022, 02:31:19 PM
What bread should I use to make the ultimate uitsmijter?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 02:43:33 PM
What bread should I use to make the ultimate uitsmijter?
:mrgreen:

two slices of white bread

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8119/8700655605_d73a0c3c78_z.jpg)

:toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 27, 2022, 02:45:19 PM
I'm in Amsterdam for a few days next month. I'm going to demolish one of those badboys.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 27, 2022, 02:51:14 PM
Or the other "culinairy specialty" of Amsterdam

Brood met Kroketten (preferably Kwekkeboom or Van Dobben)

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0e/f9/89/fa/2-kroketten-met-brood.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on August 27, 2022, 05:10:30 PM
:mrgreen:

two slices of white bread

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8119/8700655605_d73a0c3c78_z.jpg)

:toast:

So, sorta like a Taylor Ham, Egg & Cheese, but from The Netherlands...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 27, 2022, 05:48:53 PM
Yeah, let's ask Gandalf! :mrgreen:

 :mrgreen:

But I'm happy that you two are now exchanging recipes. Very wholesome.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 27, 2022, 11:43:50 PM
:mrgreen:

But I'm happy that you two are now exchanging recipes. Very wholesome.

I should post some wholesome Scottish food at this point.

(https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article13110595.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_JS160202644.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on August 28, 2022, 05:26:50 AM
Brother Jimmy was a bigger influence on the blues community here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2022, 12:04:24 PM
I should post some wholesome Scottish food at this point.

That ain't no haggis!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on August 28, 2022, 12:50:05 PM
There could be a haggis in there somewhere.

We do fry them and serve them with chips.

(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0f/20/2b/29/haggis-supper.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2022, 03:21:17 AM
I like haggis. Mom taught us to eat innards too, liver, kidneys, brain and sweetbread/thymus (she loved that, I can still recollect the scent - some would say: smell - of the kitchen when she fried it). No tripe though, for whatever reason - I only learned to eat that at a business dinner with Italians, when I was the only one of the German delegation to finish the soup which contained it while my colleagues froze once they learned it wasn't 'chicken skin' at all, that impressed the Italians more than anything I contributed legally to that meeting. They probably thought this guy will do anything for us. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on August 29, 2022, 06:47:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JO0s-5DNI4

This whole album has my brain arguing that I'm in the summer of 1982. It won't be everyone's cup of tea, but it's right up my (teenage) alley.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 29, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
They're too old for 1982, but I like it! Not only the singer's hair reminds one of Steve Perry though.

And I do detect chorus similarities with this gem here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQOmDUnt8Hs

Lots of hairspray was depleted in the making of this video.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on August 30, 2022, 07:08:49 PM
They're too old for 1982, but I like it! Not only the singer's hair reminds one of Steve Perry though.

I don't know about the singer, but the guitarist is around our age. (Maybe somewhere between us?) He was in King Cobra and then BulletBoys a couple times. He abruptly left earlier this year (the original lineup had a short lived reunion) and I wondered what he'd do next.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2022, 05:04:24 AM
I meant that with their present age, they would be too old if you time-transported them back to 1982! Back then most AORish bands seemed to be between their early twenties and max. early thirties. In 1982, even Mick Jagger was 'only' 39 which made him ancient by then standards. I remember how the fact that the Dire Straits guys were all thirty or approaching thirty when their first album broke in 1978 was deemed worthy of mention in all rock mags. In reference to Knopfler's former day job they were called the "school teacher's band".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 31, 2022, 01:17:30 PM
In reference to Knopfler's former day job they were called the "school teacher's band".

Maybe because they were dead boring to look (and listen) at.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2022, 09:26:40 PM
That of course was always the criticism, but millions thought otherwise.

There was a time when I really disliked Dire Straits for being too ubiquitous - around Brothers in Arms, every track of that album was played to death, but these days I've made my peace with them. I never saw them, but I've seen Knopfler. He's no showman, but his guitar playing and the musical storytelling are nice to listen to. It's a bit like going to a Pink Floyd gig, the 'action' on stage won't excite you, to put it mildly. There is a light show to look at though.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 31, 2022, 09:50:26 PM
After posting a live Cream video a few pages back, this popped up in my YT recommendations.

https://youtu.be/CUoObLfPJ3M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 01, 2022, 05:38:40 AM
Nice, Bruce's bass lines always have a natural flow.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on September 01, 2022, 04:39:04 PM
I should post some wholesome Scottish food at this point...

FFS... lol
Found a chippy in Stornoway last week selling deep fried Oreo's... The Scots will deep fry just about anything... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2022, 09:22:44 PM
https://youtu.be/SlzC0T7z4io
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on September 04, 2022, 03:25:49 PM
Lately I'm re-discovering Robben Ford.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2022, 01:02:11 AM
https://youtu.be/SlzC0T7z4io

Starting at 02:25 some nifty psychedelic camera effects, I first thought my screen had given up on me!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on September 07, 2022, 12:44:46 PM
Looks like a psychedelic prolapse.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 07, 2022, 10:04:47 PM
https://youtu.be/L7_bbJvrN7A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 18, 2022, 05:30:41 AM
https://youtu.be/iH3tqKZewa8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on September 18, 2022, 05:52:53 AM
And a blonde Rivoli to boot
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 18, 2022, 09:13:13 PM
Yeah, the Rivoli was the first thing I noticed when they played on the Tonight Show in the late 90s when Sex and Candy was high on the charts.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2022, 06:13:45 AM
 :rolleyes: This is what Grunge must sound to people who dislike Grunge (like me!). Mindless bar chord shoving from the guitar and root note plucking from the bass following the chord changes, with a lead vocal "melody" that sounds like he made it up during a microphone test while weaning off his antidepressants. I'm so dejected.

Rant over! Someone had to say it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2022, 06:19:55 AM
And now for some life-affirming music (you know the world is in a bad place if Swedes of all people have to provide that) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVYAxd_jI6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsY0nHVfNWs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 19, 2022, 11:42:47 AM
:rolleyes: This is what Grunge must sound to people who dislike Grunge (like me!). Mindless bar chord shoving from the guitar and root note plucking from the bass following the chord changes, with a lead vocal "melody" that sounds like he made it up during a microphone test while weaning off his antidepressants. I'm so dejected.

Rant over! Someone had to say it.

It was a huge hit. I just looked it up, 15 weeks at #1 on Billboard's modern Rock charts.

You don't have to like it.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 19, 2022, 12:22:27 PM
It was a huge hit. I just looked it up, 15 weeks at #1 on Billboard's modern Rock charts.

You don't have to like it.

I never paid much attention to it, but it was definitely on the radio a lot.  I do think the studio recording was better than the live performance, though, especially on the vocals. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2022, 01:18:04 PM
I've never heard of either the song or the band, but I've come across so much new to me good music in this forum that a rare dud like this once in a while is totally ok. I generally listen with open ears and an open mind, but this just sounded drab and uninspiring to me. But then a lot of the post-Nirvana alternative rock left me cold. I like some refinement/skill in music. Punk at least had some boisterous energy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 19, 2022, 07:09:02 PM
I've never heard of either the song or the band, but I've come across so much new to me good music in this forum that a rare dud like this once in a while is totally ok. I generally listen with open ears and an open mind, but this just sounded drab and uninspiring to me. But then a lot of the post-Nirvana alternative rock left me cold. I like some refinement/skill in music. Punk at least had some boisterous energy.

I thought being drab, uninspiring and hopelessly jaded were supposed to be a big part of grunge in the first place.  That seemed to genuinely have been what the people wanted.  I was never a fan, but grunge was better than much of the utter crap which followed it. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on September 20, 2022, 12:35:55 AM
I am very late to the party on these guys, but ...it's growing on me. This drummer Joey Jordison (RIP) was really something. Sadly the bassist Paul Gray is gone too.
https://youtu.be/9AKJkJUTNqc?t=455
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 20, 2022, 06:50:46 AM
I thought being drab, uninspiring and hopelessly jaded were supposed to be a big part of grunge in the first place.  That seemed to genuinely have been what the people wanted.  I was never a fan, but grunge was better than much of the utter crap which followed it.

I have to agree.  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on September 20, 2022, 06:51:11 AM
I just bought the first Wishbone Ash album...used to have it on LP.

Been probably 45 years since I heard it.

What great playing, and what a wonderful bass sound....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 20, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
:rolleyes: This is what Grunge must sound to people who dislike Grunge (like me!). Mindless bar chord shoving from the guitar and root note plucking from the bass following the chord changes, with a lead vocal "melody" that sounds like he made it up during a microphone test while weaning off his antidepressants. I'm so dejected.

Rant over! Someone had to say it.

It's not as weak as Billie Eilish "singing" No Time to Die from the last Bond movie, but it's close. 
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Post by: westen44 on September 20, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
It's not as weak as Billie Eilish "singing" No Time to Die from the last Bond movie, but it's close.

That's the only James Bond movie I haven't seen yet.  I just now heard the song for the first time.  I like it better than the song by the post-grunge guys.  Billie Eilish probably wouldn't be my first choice to sing a James Bond song, though. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BboMpayJomw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2022, 03:19:24 PM
I am very late to the party on these guys, but ...it's growing on me. This drummer Joey Jordison (RIP) was really something. Sadly the bassist Paul Gray is gone too.
https://youtu.be/9AKJkJUTNqc?t=455

Will we have to call you slipkn. from now on slinkp, you ole letter jumbler?!

I cannot even pretend to comprehend Slipknot's music, but I appreciate that it's skillfully done. There is undeniable method to the madness. Metal machine music indeed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2022, 03:29:49 PM
That's the only James Bond movie I haven't seen yet.  I just now heard the song for the first time.  I like it better than the song by the post-grunge guys.  Billie Eilish probably wouldn't be my first choice to sing a James Bond song, though. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BboMpayJomw

I‘m fine with that song and the performance - it's like a nightclub song in some dystopian movie. Like something Nico could have done, I can dig artsy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGnwRnvnJdI&list=RDEMYEeAhogc6SXDE0xSSa-JlA
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Post by: westen44 on September 20, 2022, 05:21:46 PM
I‘m fine with that song and the performance - it's like a nightclub song in some dystopian movie. Like something Nico could have done, I can dig artsy.

https://youtu.be/NGnwRnvnJdI?list=RDEMYEeAhogc6SXDE0xSSa-JlA

I did say I liked it better than Marcy Playground.  Just that Billie Eilish wouldn't be my first choice for a James Bond movie song.  I'd say, though, that Billie's song is way better than, for instance, Sam Smith's song for the Bond film "Spectre."  Both Smith and Eilish won various awards for their songs, however.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2022, 03:15:15 AM
I just bought the first Wishbone Ash album...used to have it on LP.

Been probably 45 years since I heard it.

What great playing, and what a wonderful bass sound....

Back then it was still all Ric 4001. Martin Turner loved that bass (his first of a decent brand), but it was stolen from him. Even Argus, their third album, was still recorded with it, the legendary TBird only came after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn2QryBUew
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 21, 2022, 08:51:13 AM
I did say I liked it better than Marcy Playground.  Just that Billie Eilish wouldn't be my first choice for a James Bond movie song.  I'd say, though, that Billie's song is way better than, for instance, Sam Smith's song for the Bond film "Spectre."  Both Smith and Eilish won various awards for their songs, however.

Smith made full use of a pretty impressive voice, but I have trouble identifying with a Bond theme sung half in that very high falsetto.  However, I'm more impressed with his voice than Eiliish, who I think mutters and whispers her way through too many tunes.

My grumpy old man complaint is that neither of them have the gravitas that a Bond theme deserves.  Shirley Bassey set the standard in the 60's (three Bond movie themes), and McCartney, Carly Simon, Nancy Sinatra, Matt Monro, Tina Turner, Adele and even Sheena Easton managed to give solid performances with a certain amount of power and gravitas.  Tom Jones was of course up there with Shirley Bassey's performances in sheer power. I can't say that I find those qualities present in Eilish or Smith's performances.

List of Bond theme performers found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_music

End of grumpy old man rant.....
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Post by: westen44 on September 21, 2022, 10:33:59 AM
Smith made full use of a pretty impressive voice, but I have trouble identifying with a Bond theme sung half in that very high falsetto.  However, I'm more impressed with his voice than Eiliish, who I think mutters and whispers her way through too many tunes.

My grumpy old man complaint is that neither of them have the gravitas that a Bond theme deserves.  Shirley Bassey set the standard in the 60's (three Bond movie themes), and McCartney, Carly Simon, Nancy Sinatra, Matt Monro, Tina Turner, Adele and even Sheena Easton managed to give solid performances with a certain amount of power and gravitas.  Tom Jones was of course up there with Shirley Bassey's performances in sheer power. I can't say that I find those qualities present in Eilish or Smith's performances.

List of Bond theme performers found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_music






End of grumpy old man rant.....

Also, it might be taken into consideration that a few of the songs through the years that were rejected as Bond theme songs might should have been accepted.  But I've got to admit that I would have rejected several of these, too. 

https://www.smoothradio.com/features/top-songs/james-bond-theme-tunes-rejected/
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Post by: Pilgrim on September 21, 2022, 11:40:02 AM
Very interesting!  Fun to listen to the cuts that didn't make it.
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Post by: uwe on September 21, 2022, 12:24:42 PM
Not Schenker glory days, but that was a good line-up too - with a likewise album: High Stakes & Dangrous Men, Laurence Archer did a fine job on guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqRkwxlmHM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 22, 2022, 07:24:50 AM
My YT recommendations sure turn up some unexpected nuggets.

Scary woman.

https://youtu.be/RUBXwxjoAus
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Post by: slinkp on September 22, 2022, 06:23:23 PM
My favorite 70s punk band! I love Poly Styrene's wail, the saxophone added an element that set them apart, and they had a distinctive sound with more variety to it than some of the other early punks.
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Post by: Basvarken on September 23, 2022, 12:39:10 AM
Only just found out about these guys:


https://youtu.be/7WRrq9yWsKQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2022, 06:29:18 AM
My YT recommendations sure turn up some unexpected nuggets.

Scary woman.

https://youtu.be/RUBXwxjoAus

The sax is a redeeming feature - he sticks out like a sore thumb because he has a grasp of what to play. Rock journos loved that band in the day. Them and The Adverts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBE1VmThpAQ

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Post by: Dave W on September 23, 2022, 07:37:44 AM
The sax is a redeeming feature - he sticks out like a sore thumb because he has a grasp of what to play. Rock journos loved that band in the day. Them and The Adverts:


He knows what to play b/c the sax part was created by the band's original sax player, Lora Logic.

IIRC Lora and Poly both became Hari Krishnas at some point.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 24, 2022, 06:54:03 AM
Cream performing "World of Pain" as part of the Danish movie "on a Saturday Night" The band was in Copenhagen, Denmark performing some shows before going to the US to record Wheels of Fire. They were paid 1000 pounds to stand in the cold Danish winter for a day.

https://youtu.be/emyuBNtjkqg
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Post by: westen44 on September 24, 2022, 07:22:26 AM
There is also supposed to be a video of them playing "We're Going Wrong" in that movie.  I tried to find it, but it's blocked--at least in the U.S.  Why one song is available and the other blocked, I don't know. 
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Post by: wellREDman on September 24, 2022, 12:52:24 PM

All just bashed to smithereens at break neck speed.

I think Neil Murray is (too much of) a sweet guy who does not want to speak badly about his late bandmate.
But I can't imagine he really enjoyed playing with Cozy Powell who left no room for any playful part whatsoever.

And you're right about Colin Hodgkinson. At that 1983 concert in Germany he had no clue what to do. The entire band was sloppy as hell.


read all that with great interest, I'm sure if I was to listen now I'd agree with you

, but 13 year old me, at his first real concert on the Slide it in Tour thought they were all just immense and amazing
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Post by: Basvarken on September 25, 2022, 04:43:01 AM
read all that with great interest, I'm sure if I was to listen now I'd agree with you

, but 13 year old me, at his first real concert on the Slide it in Tour thought they were all just immense and amazing

Same goes for me, watching Cozy Powell with MSG when I was a 13 year old. I was impressed by his sheer energy.
But when I look at it now I really don't like his performance/manifestation (anymore).
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Post by: uwe on September 26, 2022, 07:38:33 AM
That's interesting. With me, there was never a time when I liked Powell's drum style. I thought he was a handsome man and had a cool image, but I've always identified heavy-handed drumming with skill-less drumming (this will have the Bonham brigade up in arms, I know, but you all know by now that his drumming does nothing for me). I always found that Cozy Powell sounded like Mick Tucker, the likewise heavy-handed drummer of The Sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ZVsgxsk1I

I would even go as far as to say that Powell's drum style reminded me in sound and obnoxious simplicity of Glam Rock drums per se. Overly loud and heavy-handed drums were a key component of Glam Rock after all. When I heard that he was joining Rainbow I was flabbergasted, what is the Na Na Na guy doing with someone who played with Ian Paice before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGghvgGZeSs

Now I do like like Glam Rock, but the drumming on those records isn't exactly Billy Cobham, is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unxshBHfVsY

And when Rainbow Rising came out, I found the drumming on it outright clumsy while everybody else seemed to love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmJIccPWnEk

"I'm like a freight train"-Cozy alright:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJBcmavDeg

For me, the definition of good rock drumming is whether you match or better what Ian Paice does here. In my experience, not many drummers can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PBDf-VuTks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnebZnysmI

Are you fast, inventive, elegant and can you swing? That is what determines a good rock drummer for me. Or let's just say "my taste of what good rock drumming should be", because I always feel I'm in a minority on this.

I'm an Ian Paice, Stewart Copeland, Simon Phillips, Mark Nauseef, Phil Collins, Les Binks, Michael Shrieve, Ginger Baker, Pick Withers, Jeff Porcaro, Peter Criss, Scott Travis, Chris Slade, Levon Helm, Ringo Starr, Bill Ward kind of guy, to name but a few, people that don't pound the music to death, yet still make you watch and listen. The "galley slave pounders" never really impressed me though it seems to me that come the 80ies their style of drumming had won out and became omnipresent. Possibly, I'm more a fan of percussionists than of pure drummers. And I dig it if there is something playful in their style that other people might consider "overdrumming". And if they do not just provide the foundation of the music, but also have the ability to "skip along with and sometimes even over it". A (s)light Jazz touch perhaps?

Cozy Powell's popularity as a drummer in various bands was largely based on the fact that people found his sheer energy exciting and physically stimulating when playing with him. He was a force of nature. But I don't think that anyone would have mistaken him as being a great technician on drums or a groove monster. Unless you find barbarians pounding at the gate groovy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 26, 2022, 03:00:46 PM
Cozy Powell notwithstanding, it's hard to be critical of a video with Jack Bruce playing in it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD8PxxfZMYI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
Powell's hamfooted shuffle at a non-groove speed and Moore's obnoxious guitar CLAMORING FOR UTMOST ATTENTION WITH EVERY NOTE - yeah, Jack is the only non-guilty party here.

I love shuffles, but I like them to swing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XezQpweNYOk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 26, 2022, 09:37:48 PM
The above video is blocked in the U.S.

Below is another version of "Killer" with Clem Clempson on guitar.  I've seen this one before and it may have been posted here at some point.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94vkThBKIg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2022, 04:36:08 AM
No comparison, Clempson is a much more nuanced and understated player than Moore. So understated (yet able), he did not get the job with Purple even though he played admirably well with them at auditions in 1975, but they needed a guitar hero/star ---> enter Tommy Bolin.

Clempson wanted to found a power trio (aptly named Strange Brew) together with Powell and Greg Ridley (of likewise Humble Pie) in 1975. The project never got beyond rehearsals, possibly also curtailed by Blackmore's offer to Powell to join Rainbow.

https://www.oocities.org/sunsetstrip/palladium/9932/clemc_pho.htm


I loved Clempson's work in the unfortunately shortlived Rough Diamond with ex-Heepster David Byron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xEGu4WFUA

Moore could have learned something off him. Dynamics plus light & shade to name but two.

Cracker of a guitar solo.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on September 27, 2022, 07:54:04 AM


 Right now, this here..............

https://youtu.be/AemDcIxO6Uo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2022, 12:25:27 PM
Throbbing eights on bass, choppy riffs on top and harmony guitars - what’s not to like?!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2022, 02:07:44 PM
@Uwe: Haha, nice to see we share the same opinion on both Cozy Powell and Gary Moore :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2022, 04:47:43 AM
In a way they were made for each other with their approach to their instruments, but they never got along. Powell didn't like to rehearse things to death, for Moore it was never enough. And when Moore became drum machine accuracy-obsessed in the late 80ies, he butted heads with Cozy Powell during the rehearsals for the After The War tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtkM4d8zqQg

which had Powell leave in a huff and the comment: Then why don't you get a friggin' drum machine to do it?! Chris Slade took over for the tour then.

Bob Daisley writes in his bio that he saw it coming having played with both Cozy in Rainbow and in Gary Moore's bands,"Cozy would always speed up and slow down as well as cut corners in his drum breaks, that made it exciting and challenging to play with him, but Gary was a perfectionist."

Moore's 80ies music hasn't aged well at all, it's extremely cringy to me, the synths, the guitar sound, the production, never mind his strained vocals (he was never ever a good singer, but just wanted to do it all). As were his ant-war songs - commendable as the subject was. All he ever was, was a technically accomplished and very intense guitarist - who would overstay his welcome like after 60 seconds in my ears ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2022, 06:49:33 AM
Cruella de Ville, in a class by themselves - early - mid 80s band from Belfast, fronted by an American-born twin brother and sister

https://youtu.be/WVjE1MpP78A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 28, 2022, 07:26:39 AM
Cruella de Ville, in a class by themselves - early - mid 80s band from Belfast, fronted by an American-born twin brother and sister

https://youtu.be/WVjE1MpP78A

Well that was fun!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2022, 09:03:42 AM
Those Cruella Twins are nicely frantic and sleazy, remind me of Mad Juana!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0-FkbYlMIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ommpHPq-Ne4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on September 28, 2022, 11:22:53 AM
Wow I've never heard Cruella de Ville before. That's criminal, they are right up my alley.
It's like demented new-wave circus ska with a bit of klezmer and something about the attitude reminds me of Sparks.

I wonder if Gogol Bordello heard them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kETblnZ_B4o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2022, 12:35:42 PM
Well that was fun!

Unfortunately they moved on to other pursuits. Not many recordings. They've had a small following for years. The Muinzer twins are still around, though not in a band.

The flip side of Drunken Uncle John became a Doctor Demento favorite.

https://youtu.be/vze3NVumZ2g

More

https://youtu.be/QCoGjucb1Z8

The softer side

https://youtu.be/OlyEQKzRTbU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 30, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Marc Bolan would have turned 75 today.

https://youtu.be/rpMa6JADDJM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2022, 10:55:15 AM
That a weird audio, the multi-tracked vocals are obviously not live (and Bolan moves away from the mike often while his voice can still be heard full force), but the guitar and Finn’s hectic percussion certainly is. At those Musikladen Extra shows, bands always played live (unlike at the regular Musikladen shows which were canned like Top of the Pops), so Bolan obviously reworked the vocal track in the aftermath. The vocals sound like they were lifted off the original single.

Hearing Bolan’s guitar live, you know why the punks loved him. He was a raucous player. And Mickey Finn (in contrast to his ousted predecessor Steve Peregrin Took) had no idea what he was doing on the congas!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 01, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
Marc Bolan would have turned 75 today.

https://youtu.be/rpMa6JADDJM
   

 I consider myself very fortunate to have seen Marc and T Rex, I had completely forgotten who else was on the Bill with him that night, after some digging around I find that it was Oct. 19, 1974, he opened for Blue Oyster Cult at The Paramount in Seattle. So glad I grew up in the '70s.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2022, 07:14:56 AM
I've read that on an US tour with Uriah Heep they gave him a hard time because their brand of heavy rock was more in tune with US audiences. Marc/T. Rex remained a coastal phenomenon in the US of A. He was a great stylist, but not a guitar hero for US audiences. You guys wanted flamboyance AND instrumental ability.

Relations continued to be somewhat strained ever after ...

https://geirmykl.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/article-about-uriah-heep-from-new-musical-express-april-15-1972/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2022, 08:13:33 AM
Man, I would have loved to have been there, Alice is best when he does garage  ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh2UkEfAmEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2bHgEfvNc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 02, 2022, 11:28:20 AM
I'm listening to the CD just now and it's a dream. Alice/Vincent hasn't sounded as vibrant in decades. And the band kicks some real shit, but retains that unmatched elegance the Alice Cooper Group always had.

And Dunaway's bass sound is among the best produced/mixed bass sounds I've heard - ever. Absolutely majestic.

I bought the CD as a piece of whimsical nostalgia, I had no idea it would sound as good as it does and that the performance would be so strong. This was a raunch-fest like a New York Dolls- or MC5-gig, no less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIR72feonA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 03, 2022, 08:57:06 AM
Kick ass version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN9mjccJ8z4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 04, 2022, 04:43:26 AM
Went to The Black Crowes last night to see their celebration of the Shake Your Money Maker release 30 (+2) years ago.
The concert was postponed twice because of Covid.

The band was in optima forma.
Chris Robinson was energetic and his voice was excellent.
Rich Robinson was the stoic he's always been. Flashing a minimal smile every now and then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QjRt8YV9rM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScN7GqGPBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPzy7XPe1Tk

Their support act was Dutch band DeWolff.
They were impressive as well.
The Robinson were obviously impressed too, since they gave them 15 minutes extra for their slot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhDggQt33JY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 04, 2022, 09:16:27 AM
Kick ass version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN9mjccJ8z4
   


 I've always loved the lyric "Stood on a ridge and shunned religion, thinkin' the world was mine, made my break and a big mistake stealin' when I shoulda been buyin"  :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on October 04, 2022, 10:29:08 AM
That a weird audio, the multi-tracked vocals are obviously not live (and Bolan moves away from the mike often while his voice can still be heard full force), but the guitar and Finn’s hectic percussion certainly is. At those Musikladen Extra shows, bands always played live (unlike at the regular Musikladen shows which were canned like Top of the Pops), so Bolan obviously reworked the vocal track in the aftermath. The vocals sound like they were lifted off the original single.

Hearing Bolan’s guitar live, you know why the punks loved him. He was a raucous player. And Mickey Finn (in contrast to his ousted predecessor Steve Peregrin Took) had no idea what he was doing on the congas!  :mrgreen:


They maybe recorded a unique version for the show? Bands mimed on Top of the Pops, but had to cut unique versions of their hits to meet Byzantine musicians union rules. There is a unique version of Black Night for this reason.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 04, 2022, 01:18:29 PM
Changing it up here...this may be the prettiest tune Neil Young has ever written, and I absolutely LOVE the video they did for it.  My band plays this one and it's a pleasure to practice and play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2022, 02:11:08 PM

They maybe recorded a unique version for the show? Bands mimed on Top of the Pops, but had to cut unique versions of their hits to meet Byzantine musicians union rules. There is a unique version of Black Night for this reason.

Up to a certain point and due to musicians' union's rules in the UK, even the playback for mimed TOTPs performances had to be recorded fresh, you were not allowed to use the band's studio recordings. All the early Queen singles were that way. So myriads of alternative versions exist though most bands stayed very close to their previously recorded work.

We had nothing like that in Germany. And unlike the guitar playing and the congas, the vocals are not really in sync with Bolan's performance. It's a weird mix, I've heard it the other way around, but canned lead voals and live music?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 04, 2022, 03:12:04 PM
Tim Drummond played that , he’s one of my favourite session guys , heck , he also played with Ry Cooder and James Brown. There’s interesting substitutions in that one , he was a sly bugger.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on October 05, 2022, 12:19:17 PM
Up to a certain point and due to musicians' union's rules in the UK, even the playback for mimed TOTPs performances had to be recorded fresh, you were not allowed to use the band's studio recordings. All the early Queen singles were that way. So myriads of alternative versions exist though most bands stayed very close to their previously recorded work.

We had nothing like that in Germany. And unlike the guitar playing and the congas, the vocals are not really in sync with Bolan's performance. It's a weird mix, I've heard it the other way around, but canned lead voals and live music?


Marc must have redubbed his vocals? The 'Bolan sound' is silky multi-tracked vocals after all.


Interestingly even that Black Sabbath live gig from 1970 (Brussels or Paris depending on who you ask) has dubbed vocals at the end of 'Black Sabbath'.

Check out at 27:00, with the line 'people running 'cos they're scared' either looped or dubbed in.

https://youtu.be/WberTTAIUow
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2022, 12:55:58 PM
"Live broadcasts" were a frequent environment for some doctoring with lots of groups, not just Sabbath. It's still a stunning performance with all that youthful energy they had.

I've heard other official live performances from T. Rex: Marc was never the neatest and tidiest performer live. And of course he could be a perfectionist in the aftermath. And if truth be told, with the means available back then, T. Rex' trademark Toni Visconti-honed studio sound could not be readily reproduced live (espeially with the dearth of only a guit/b/dr/perc line-up) - nor did the screaming girls writhing in T. Rextasy expect it to be.

(https://c8.alamy.com/compde/ew5wcg/t-rex-im-konzert-in-der-starlight-ballsaal-boston-lincolnshire-marc-bolan-vor-3500-fans-die-den-ballsaal-verpackt-15-januar-1972-ew5wcg.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 07, 2022, 10:40:27 PM
John Prine Memorial Park dedicated (https://www.wbko.com/2022/10/02/late-john-prine-honored-today-with-unveiling-new-john-prine-memorial-park-rochester-dam/)

https://youtu.be/2fm6YSCOxQk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 09, 2022, 02:26:17 PM
https://youtu.be/Mu0i9IZ2f-Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2022, 03:19:29 PM
This s a great partnership and the tune is really catchy....love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZ575AC3wQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 09, 2022, 03:26:26 PM
Back in the day when Nick was (almost) a Roller ...  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yobmn7nGVpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMlDL5LFxo

To this day, some people actually think it was a BCR tune, he matched their sound so well ... It actually went #1 in Japan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKj_yjKp8ag
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ilan on October 09, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
This s a great partnership and the tune is really catchy....love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZ575AC3wQ

Love it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 09, 2022, 03:34:18 PM
This s a great partnership and the tune is really catchy....love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZ575AC3wQ

Certainly an improvement from when he was still with that other awful rock group ... Black Sabbath?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 09, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
Speaking of ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FKAhIVD80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_6DfxA6LiI

Ozzy gets all tuneful with old age. To be fair, he always was. He has that knack of putting simple, almost childlike, yet catchy melodies over whatever rifforama he is singing to.

But with all due respect, those canned vocals don't even make an attempt to sound live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iZMPB13Lp8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 09, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
Certainly an improvement from when he was still with that other awful rock group ... Black Sabbath?

Black Sabbath?  I think you mean Quiet Riot. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 10, 2022, 04:31:51 AM
Whatever, all heavy rock groups sound the same to me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 10, 2022, 07:51:46 AM
Black Sabbath?  I think you mean Quiet Riot.
He must mean Judas Priest
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 10, 2022, 08:22:07 AM
Is there really a difference?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn6a5eG8JgE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSZhLA7Prfk

Seriously, the core Judas Priest sound is basically a love child between Black Sabbath and Deep Purple elements, Zep influences were few and far between with Priest though they stem from the Midlands too. But there was occasional Zep adultry  ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxYHGdbnUUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZsKj6xzs4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW-6FKFnHx8

There were other influences too, this is the best Ted Nugent riff that Uncle Ted never wrote ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXJtz1TgmIM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2022, 04:45:38 PM
From his last studio album - thanks to Jeff Lynne's presence very much a Travellin' Wilburys vibe going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8fFdc-karA&list=RDr8fFdc-karA&start_radio=1
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 12, 2022, 07:03:25 PM
"Any Road" lost to Justin Timberlake's song "Cry Me A River" at the 2004 Grammys.  But George's "Marwa Blues" won the Grammy for best pop instrumental.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HEeNRJFMg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 13, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
https://youtu.be/HhpWSjodNCY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 17, 2022, 08:47:46 PM
Lip synched but it's one of the very few from Huey that has video footage.

Huey is still around (age 88), although retired.

https://youtu.be/1gdDubu1L2Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2022, 04:31:52 AM
Music like this will corrupt and corrode white youth and sooner or later lead to the downfall of the USA.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 18, 2022, 07:34:41 AM
Music like this will corrupt and corrode white youth and sooner or later lead to the downfall of the USA.

Interesting observation, but Ace Records owner Johnny Vincent apparently didn't think so.

Huey wrote and recorded Sea Cruise and Alimony. Without Huey's knowledge, Vincent stripped the vocal track and had Frankie Ford record both, supposedly to appeal to white girls. Ironically, Frankie didn't like girls. As the Times-Picayune article said when Frankie died, he was "flamboyant."

Now this is black music sung (very well) by Frankie.

https://youtu.be/0baHG6kBbPo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2022, 08:16:26 AM
"Ironically, Frankie didn't like girls."

Do piano players ever?  :popcorn:

(https://media.tenor.com/G3xbmcfztqAAAAAM/the-muppet-show-liberace.gif)

(https://y.yarn.co/bbf2fd16-199b-4997-860b-1e98af3ccf36_text.gif)

(https://media.tenor.com/RXVlssBKXJ0AAAAC/littlerichard-music.gif)

(https://media.tenor.com/2PL57qQlfSUAAAAM/muppets-muppet-show.gif)

Or only underage ones.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ZanyThoughtfulBighornedsheep-size_restricted.gif)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 18, 2022, 09:53:55 AM
You forgot Van Cliburn.

Huey Smith and Fats Domino are/were not.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 18, 2022, 10:23:41 AM
Saw The Who in Denver last night.  A bit over two hours of nonstop music.  First third with orchestra, second part with the band only, then the orchestra returned for the last third.  Last tune....of course, Baba O'Riley!  Interesting that they travel with their orchestra conductor, keyboardist, principal violinist and principal cellist. The bassist, Jon Button, plays a 1965 P with tobacco sunburst and tort PG....good brief interview here: https://www.guitarworld.com/features/jon-button-the-who

Great show, lots of classics and a few from their 2019 album.  The bassist, Jon Button, plays a 1965 P with tobacco sunburst and tort PG.

This was a motion photo but I had to edit its size down, so the image isn't as crisp as it might be.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2022, 04:03:55 AM
You forgot Van Cliburn.

Huey Smith and Fats Domino are/were not.

Fats' contribution to the world population especially is nothing short of inmeasureable! He left his DNA ... all over Blueberry Hill.  8)

No one ever writes about the sex life of bassists (should they have one).  The public is not even interested in that.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2022, 04:05:14 AM
Saw The Who in Denver last night.  A bit over two hours of nonstop music.  First third with orchestra, second part with the band only, then the orchestra returned for the last third.  Last tune....of course, Baba O'Riley!  Interesting that they travel with their orchestra conductor, keyboardist, principal violinist and principal cellist. The bassist, Jon Button, plays a 1965 P with tobacco sunburst and tort PG....good brief interview here: https://www.guitarworld.com/features/jon-button-the-who

Great show, lots of classics and a few from their 2019 album.  The bassist, Jon Button, plays a 1965 P with tobacco sunburst and tort PG.

This was a motion photo but I had to edit its size down, so the image isn't as crisp as it might be.

Who's (no pun intended) drumming?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 19, 2022, 04:53:17 AM
I really don't like clowns.
There's one exception though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT8t3i8CkMQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on October 19, 2022, 06:48:15 AM
No one ever writes about the sex life of bassists (should they have one).  The public is not even interested in that.  :mrgreen:

Not the slightest interest...

(https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/19792737/502full-bill-wyman.jpg)

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 19, 2022, 08:02:20 AM
Who's (no pun intended) drumming?

From the tour web page: THE WHO HITS BACK! Tour will feature The Who’s full live band comprising guitarist/backup singer Simon Townshend, keyboardist Loren Gold, second keyboardist Emily Marshall, bassist Jon Button, drummer Zak Starkey and backing vocals by Billy Nicholls, along with orchestra conductor Keith Levenson, principal violinist Katie Jacoby and principal cellist Audrey Snyder, passionately delivering The Who’s many classics, as well as songs from their most recent album, WHO.

(Starkey has been their drummer since 1996.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
I didn't know it was Ringo jr. still, peace!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2022, 08:24:50 AM
I really don't like clowns.
There's one exception though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT8t3i8CkMQ

That is atmospheric and it benefits from his clown look.

Weirdly, Ozzy vocal melodies, for all their simplicity, are difficult for most singers - especially ones with a better technique - to get across convincingly. The clown has given it a young Tom Waits-sortish treatment, which works well.

The late Charles Bradley did well too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfaOf70M4xs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2022, 08:30:26 AM
Not the slightest interest...

(https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/19792737/502full-bill-wyman.jpg)

 :mrgreen:

LOL, you must have used a very good search engine for this: "famous bassist", "love life" & "does anybody really give a damn?" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYHZUlf_z6o

"She took off her hat ... and she had lovely hair ..." alright.

And even better, at 02:30:

"We go on the Hovercraft
Across the Water
They'll think I'm your dad
And you're my daughter"


And then that smirk.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLfA9AvKsEs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZOlEV7Dds
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2022, 08:30:28 AM
What an awesome version of the song, Aynsley Dunbar's drumming is explosive and Trevor Bolder channels his inner Jack Bruce ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXSGocWifAg

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 21, 2022, 10:22:59 AM
This feels like it would be a hit if it were released today.  They played it Monday in Denver and it was as great as ever.  One of the Ox's simpler bass parts, but it really drives the tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODBHFmTW7JI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2022, 11:47:59 AM
Oops, some bass line (not just bass brand) inspiration to these guys perhaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6X0rOC32AA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 21, 2022, 12:26:31 PM
Perhaps...the rhythm is similar and I could see how the variations could come to mind.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2022, 11:48:43 AM
Ronnie Dio and Roger Glover help sell expensive watches now, a 2021 ad …

https://youtu.be/GH9fT1jlJPU

I was at that gig at the RAH in London:

https://youtu.be/lxaCl7Ce95M

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 25, 2022, 10:28:40 PM
https://youtu.be/Lt4JWh9KkCs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 26, 2022, 06:03:20 AM
That tell-tale bass drum - lovely.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 26, 2022, 11:04:25 AM


 I like these Clowns!

The Nasty Habits may have to cop this!

https://youtu.be/NlNUS1PhfUE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 27, 2022, 11:59:18 AM
Music is alive and well.

https://youtu.be/PG1_LAAL4w0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 27, 2022, 12:04:46 PM

 I like these Clowns!

The Nasty Habits may have to cop this!

https://youtu.be/NlNUS1PhfUE

As a fan of ole Neil, I must say this is a gorgeous cover!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 27, 2022, 01:19:35 PM
Music is alive and well.

https://youtu.be/PG1_LAAL4w0

Wow...that is EXCELLENT!  I've heard other bands do a similar arrangement - and it just kills when it's done the right way. That lady has pipes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on October 27, 2022, 01:56:35 PM
As a fan of ole Neil, I must say this is a gorgeous cover!
   

 isn't that fun! They did a nice job of it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 27, 2022, 03:17:36 PM
Wow...that is EXCELLENT!  I've heard other bands do a similar arrangement - and it just kills when it's done the right way. That lady has pipes.

TTB are the type of band that really shouldn't exist these days - they do everything 'wrong', i.e. against conventional wisdom, like too large a line-up or releasing four studio album CDs under an allegorical concept in the course of a few months. But they really are a musical force.Their gigs last between 2:30 and 3 hours and are full of improvisation.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 29, 2022, 06:42:33 AM
JLL on Hee Haw, 1969, backed by Buck Owens' Buckaroos and Kenny Lovelace on fiddle.

https://youtu.be/1cVCAdgtR9U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 29, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
Can't deny what the man put out was some of purest expression of American music period. Otis also talks a good piece about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIrlpGhhmY

Kenny Vaughn had some things to say about the Killer not long ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2furIhZfVRc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 30, 2022, 03:57:18 PM
Who'd have thought he'd ever even reach that age? What a trailblazer he was.

Very good und comprehensive obituary here ...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/oct/28/jerry-lee-lewis-rock-n-roll-star-dead

Had a knack for surrounding himself with young talent ...

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-jerry-lee-lewis-with-the-outlaws-from-l-ritchie-blackmore-ken-lundgren-32563983.html

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/92/56/b492562917ec17cca3678adcdd8cadb2.jpg)

You cant's say "rest in peace" with Jerry Lee, but rather:

HAMMER THOSE KEYS IN ALL ETERNITY !!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2022, 09:09:33 AM
Jerry Lee listening to a time capsule of himself on his 85th birthday and enjoying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfe0thTOInk

Question: Do all American hardware stores feature pianos for customer entertainment? Is this perhaps a Wild West saloon tradition?

(https://media.wired.com/photos/5b05c0999059e774feef750c/191:100/w_1336,h_699,c_limit/Westworld_Reviews_5_27_18.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8uepA3rTwc

We see AND hear: The art of piano shredding is alive and well!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 04, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
For all you Lynne lovers (some surprises featured):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKvCS7nXHe4

Want more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJOKB7qOFzo

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 04, 2022, 08:27:06 PM
I would like to check out some of those albums Jeff Lynne produced that I didn't even know about. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 04, 2022, 09:59:20 PM
The new Taylor Swift. It's good. Don't hate me.

Before that, I have been gradually working through the Slipknot catalog. Also good.   What is happening to me???
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
You're fine. No one hates you. I've got it as well (Taylor, not Slipknot):

It's musically ok+, lyrically better, but

- her songwriting (the music, not the lyrics) is kind of samey, the chorus harmonies and melodies are often interchangeable,

- as a singer, she's no Lady Gaga or Pink, her voice never transcends "nice"; in her favor: she's not the umpteenth white girl that tries to sound black, but she's not Karen Carpenter, Emmylou Harris or Alison Krauss either,

- those electronic-loungy drums & synth beats as a basis of nearly every song (Sweet Nothing does mercifully without them) get tiresome after a while.

But she's a phenomenon. Yet in a way she is musically more conservative/less daring than Madonna ever was. Yes, she's left the New Country that made her famous bravely behind, but now seems to be in cruise mode. If it weren't for the lyrics, you'd be forgiven to sometimes think that "Midnights" is an Enya album with all those layered vocals billowing everywhere.

But perhaps you can't really expect an angsty album entitled "Midnights" to be varied or treading new ground. Let's wait for the next one. Picking up a guitar again to write songs might help too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2022, 03:40:39 PM
Going through a Blood, Sweat & Tears binge today ...

They'll always be identified with David Clayton-Thomas' beefy vocals, but the two Jerrys (Fisher & LaCroix) with their two-pronged lead vocal attack were no slouches either. Their version of And When I Die at 37:37 with an extended horn and harp duel is ace. As is LaCroix' monster rendition of the Al Kooper penned I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know at 21:52 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTWZaZXX7Yk

This is divine - from an almost forgotten album (More Than Ever) after DCT had returned ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLFcJ8cqiSQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 07, 2022, 04:28:38 PM
I saw BS&T live in my college days - David Clayton-Thomas is always the dominant image of them in my mind.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 07, 2022, 06:05:50 PM
The Canadian bear!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2022, 04:39:46 PM
ZZ Top, WTF?


https://youtu.be/n75DAmwInhE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 10, 2022, 05:41:44 PM
Makes no sense to me.  For their music, anything more than 4 strings is superfluous, contributing nothing but excess weight and expense.  No one can finger most of the strings either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 10, 2022, 07:31:38 PM
C'mon guys, that can't be anything but a joke.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2022, 11:16:28 PM
I'd say a joke or just a gimmick.  Elwood Francis is a guitar tech.  Maybe that's an idea he has had for a while and just decided to try it out.  I doubt he is planning on doing it all the time.  It is kind of funny the first time you see it, though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 11, 2022, 12:06:11 AM
I am shocked. They always had such practical instruments before.

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/story-behind-zz-tops-spinning-fur-guitars
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 11, 2022, 03:50:16 AM
ZZ Top, WTF?


https://youtu.be/n75DAmwInhE

Very Cheap Trick'ish. Rick Nielsen will sue.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/62/12/4c6212a7564b65a9706b21c6e2a37fac.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 11, 2022, 10:05:51 AM
C'mon guys, that can't be anything but a joke.

Perhaps a lampoon of the silly multistring creations which appear occasionally??  That would actually make sense.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 11, 2022, 03:49:22 PM
Perhaps a lampoon of the silly multistring creations which appear occasionally??  That would actually make sense.
I'd say it is, I found it quite amusing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 11, 2022, 04:07:19 PM
I've missed this. Motörhead at the Montreaux Jazz Festival. Instantly I thought what about the usual intro: "We are Motörhead, and we play rock n' roll". Yes it came with some forewords. Also skip to 17:15. "This is a rock n' roll song.I could tell you it's a jazz song but it is'nt. it's a rock n' roll song. YOU LIKE ROCK N' ROLL, DON'T YOU? *crowd yeeaaah! Thank you, I'm glad to hear that, cause you're gonna have to sit through this and if you don't it's gonna be f***ing awful. ONE TWO THREE FOUR! And there's more, "Sing along if you like, or play the saxophone". :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRNP7kKskI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 11, 2022, 11:23:30 PM
The 17 string "bass"* (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/zz-top-stuns-fans-with-17-string-bass-check-it-out/ar-AA140VKd) was a gag purchase.

* or whatever it is. We don't know the tuning, and the bass range isn't 17  strings wide.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 11, 2022, 11:55:00 PM
Yeah I wondered what on earth the tuning could possibly be.
Maybe it's 17 E strings :D

Apparently it really is 17 strings and you can actually buy one (not available in yellow sadly)
https://www.amazon.com/SRLIWHITE-Electric-Rosewood-Fingerboard-Fretless/dp/B09TK22DQ1

My question is.... who else is buying these... and what was in the mind of the builder?

I especially like this note in the listing:
Quote
Suitable For: Home-schooling
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 12, 2022, 12:27:04 AM
The 17 string "bass"* (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/zz-top-stuns-fans-with-17-string-bass-check-it-out/ar-AA140VKd) was a gag purchase.

* or whatever it is. We don't know the tuning, and the bass range isn't 17  strings wide.

An article I read earlier today suggests that doing stuff like this may also be a way for ZZ Top to deal with their grief.  All of them know Dusty Hill would have found this amusing.  Frank Beard seems to be the one who was most helped by the stunt.  People deal with grief in their own way and it's not for outsiders to say what should or should not be done. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 12, 2022, 08:42:30 AM
An article I read earlier today suggests that doing stuff like this may also be a way for ZZ Top to deal with their grief.  All of them know Dusty Hill would have found this amusing.  Frank Beard seems to be the one who was most helped by the stunt.  People deal with grief in their own way and it's not for outsiders to say what should or should not be done.

I wondered about that.  Seems reasonable that it was a prank and cathartic to the band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 12, 2022, 05:11:29 PM
I also like this line from the listing: "This instrument’s neck creates an incredibly comfortable fret-hand feel that's ideal for beginning players or experienced pros alike. "
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 12, 2022, 11:58:56 PM
I also like this line from the listing: "This instrument’s neck creates an incredibly comfortable fret-hand feel that's ideal for beginning players or experienced pros alike. "

If you're an orangutan, it might be. Especially if you're an experienced pro orangutan.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 14, 2022, 06:17:32 AM
I only wanna know: Are four truss rods really enough?

I'm from an engineering nation, we want stuff that works.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-26-2016/hGxzuB.gif)

I don't think there are enough bass notes in all of ZZ Top's aggregated musical universe to ever use this thing to its full extent. Dusty would have done fine with one of those Stig Pedersen creations.

(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/stig_zpsfjyh7eev-jpg.2531875/)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on November 14, 2022, 11:27:56 AM

I don't think there are enough bass notes in all of ZZ Top's aggregated musical universe to ever use this thing to its full extent. Dusty would have done fine with one of those Stig Pedersen creations.

(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/stig_zpsfjyh7eev-jpg.2531875/)

You forgot this one...
(https://i.imgur.com/qgS2sJH.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 14, 2022, 03:05:25 PM
I wondered about that.  Seems reasonable that it was a prank and cathartic to the band.

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/jared-dines-elwood-francis-17-string

After reading this article, I think the other one I read may have been making too much of this stunt being something to lighten ZZ Top's grief.  Frank Beard seems to be the one who got the most benefit out of the levity, but that's just the way things turned out.  Of course, that's good, even if it might have been unplanned.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 14, 2022, 05:28:23 PM
Nice article!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 16, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
Johnny turned 80 on November 7th.

https://youtu.be/TRayxoKuQ7I

https://youtu.be/X3bDZ8j2CL4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 16, 2022, 03:13:59 PM
And we're still playing Secret Agent Man in one of our sets!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on November 16, 2022, 04:40:20 PM
A guitar player I know has been known to drop that too.

He also has a nice instrumental take on Goldfinger.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 17, 2022, 06:35:45 PM
https://youtu.be/eUDcTLaWJuo

RIP to Kimberly Herrin, the blonde in the red top in ZZ Top's "Legs" video.  She was also in other videos and had supporting roles in movies such as "Ghostbusters" and "Romancing the Stone." 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2022, 08:59:03 AM
Playmates don't really die, they just go where ole Hugh is already waiting for them in his pajamas.

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/kymberly-herrin-obit-35.jpg)

As regards her and her female eye candy extras' contribution to ZZ Top's 80ies MTV image, I guess the term iconographic is richly deserved. Stiletto in peace.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 18, 2022, 07:16:03 PM
https://youtu.be/EsZKrtVRsq8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 19, 2022, 12:27:45 AM
This song by his brother Lefty used to be on the radio all the time.  It always got my attention in a way that's hard to describe.  There is something unique about it, though.


https://youtu.be/gFarJc8aGSE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2022, 05:48:37 AM
That, and this one.

https://youtu.be/50k18gL76AU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 19, 2022, 07:23:45 AM
That one is just as good or maybe even better.  But I have a lot of pleasant memories associated with listening to Saginaw, Michigan.  I was at an impressionable age at that time.  "The Long Black Veil" could have been made into a movie, though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2022, 11:09:08 PM
Listening to my Platters' All Time Greatest Hits album (2004 remaster). So many great songs.

https://youtu.be/UGwa2tw7Vws

https://youtu.be/V9Z439YYyD0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Stjofön Big on November 22, 2022, 02:32:55 PM
Great songs. I love them, deep, and dearly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2022, 02:46:50 PM
Listening to my Platters' All Time Greatest Hits album (2004 remaster). So many great songs.


I was about to write how someone who claims to disdain Motown should like the music it developed from, but then I thought it would come out all mean and smart-alec'y so I decided against it. Restraint is my middle name.

For some reason, they were missing in my collection though I of course knew their songs - I've rectified this untenable status via an Amazon order, danke för ze inspiration!

PS: That actor in the second vid taking the table with the lady looks uncannily like Kevin Spacey/Frank Underwood. Who is he?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2022, 03:25:41 PM
I'm a cheesy wuss and guilty as charged, but this was one of the first Garth Brooks songs I ever heard and it is still my favourite. Cinematic and gives me goosebumps of the good kind to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkX8tqi9iTw

Not real country by any stretch, I know.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2022, 07:04:35 PM
This is well-intentioned and sincere, but it doesn't work for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsTKEQzLkmw

I love The Commodores' original and The Boss is many things, but he's not a soul crooner. He sounds rhythmically stiff on the track and his voice lacks honey.

Mentioning Paul Stanley and Springsteen in one post is of course sacrilege to some people, but Stanley's voice drips with honey in comparison and his delivery grooves with the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40gsFY0fnu0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 23, 2022, 08:19:06 AM
Paul is surprisingly good in that format. I hope he continues in this direction if they ever wrap up their farewell tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzPj4HN5vog
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
Yeah, "soul classics" should really be the new answer to this ancient question here:

I tell ya somethin', when you're down in the dumps and you need something to bring you up, there is only one thing that's gonna do it the way you want it ... What's that? I can't hear you?!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtIWnKWTUrQ

(And yes, Simmons' meaty bass playing on that track is - no pun intended - absolutely ace.)

LOL, I had forgotten that the only lifelong teetotaler of the band actually sang this song, what irony ... But Kiss being Kiss, I'm sure the, uhum, Demon Non-Alcohol approved of this belated (2021) offspring of the Frehley-penned song ...

(https://brandsforfans.com/app/uploads/sites/5/2021/07/kic6251-scaled.jpg)



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2022, 01:30:51 PM
I was about to write how someone who claims to disdain Motown should like the music it developed from, but then I thought it would come out all mean and smart-alec'y so I decided against it. Restraint is my middle name.

For some reason, they were missing in my collection though I of course knew their songs - I've rectified this untenable status via an Amazon order, danke för ze inspiration!

PS: That actor in the second vid taking the table with the lady looks uncannily like Kevin Spacey/Frank Underwood. Who is he?

Motown groups were a lowest common denominator corruption of music like this.

The actor is Johnny Johnston. This is a scene from Rock Around The Clock (1956). Ernie Freeman Combo backing them up.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2022, 01:51:11 PM
Danke for the identification!

"Motown groups were a lowest common denominator corruption of music like this."

OMG, grudging assent? I shall make an entry in my diary.  :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 23, 2022, 09:20:04 PM
I totally agree with Dave's analysis. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 24, 2022, 06:52:11 AM
Uhum, I wouldn't call Marvin Gaye's Inner City Blues and What's Goin' On or The Temptations' Papa Was A Rolling Stone a low denominator of anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugKPIPgZew
(Wow, I never knew he was that good a piano improviser, just listen at 04:12.)

The music on that label progressed over time quite a bit.

But I also always liked the tunefulness and the rhythmic buoyancy of even the early Motown stuff. I'm not against convenience music in any shape or form, I even liked a lot of Phillysound and disco. What I do have issues with is dance music without lyrics/vocals which is why you can count me out on a lot of what is played on dance floors today. Just a beat/groove is not enough for me.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2022, 12:29:29 PM
Uhum, I wouldn't call Marvin Gaye's Inner City Blues and What's Goin' On or The Temptations' Papa Was A Rolling Stone a low denominator of anything.


I didn't say or imply that every song was bad. But Motown called itself Hitsville USA. That says a lot. The goal was to get hits by any means possible, never mind the quality of the music. That's why they wound up putting out so much utter crap (e.g. The Supremes) instead of finding good artists who put out good music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2022, 12:30:47 PM
This was posted by a member at TDPRI because his son is the bassist.

I like.

https://youtu.be/3r-eIkS98Es

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 26, 2022, 10:55:32 AM
I loved the Supremes and still have their greatest hits double LP.

I really liked most of Motown, which is much as I can say for any record label.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2022, 04:02:39 PM
The Supremes aren't my favorite Motown act - a bit too thoroughly cleansed for white tastes for me -, but there is no denying that they were a blueprint for black female vocal groups like Cream and the Jimi Hendrix Experience were a blueprint for rock bands: No Supremes, no Destiny's Child; no Cream, no Metallica. It's that basic.

Without Motown and what it stands for, black music wouldn't be what it is today. The Blues was at one point almost wholly ... culturally appropriated (is the term you would use today) by whites and they turned it into Rock'n'Roll and then Rock with its million subgenres. But black (do I have to capitalize it?) people retained artistic control of Gospel, Soul and Funk and it spawned Motown, Stax, Reggae, Phillysound, Disco and what is today called RnB plus - urbanized - Hip Hop and Rap. Motown is not just music, not just a record label, it's a cultural and social phenomenon of Black America (I think it deserves capitalization here).

"The goal was to get hits by any means possible, never mind the quality of the music." Yes, of course - and your point being? It was black people wishing to entertain, make money and leave a cultural imprint in an era when the single and radio reigned supreme (no pun intended) in the media world.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2022, 05:14:13 PM
In the year of our Lord 2022, the early 80ies are alive and well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJC0Kwt2t2U

The lead guitarist, Sonja Anubis (her real name I'm sure), is eine Holländerin Dutch, I thought I'd mention that.

Flashdance (the movie) really needs a remake.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 27, 2022, 09:13:19 AM
All the ridiculousness of mid-eighties Metal crammed into one video.
What's next; a grunge revival to eradicate all this?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 27, 2022, 02:12:29 PM
The goal was to get hits by any means possible, never mind the quality of the music.

IMO the resulting music quality was quite good, highly listenable, and is still popular today.  That speaks well for the music.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 27, 2022, 10:01:37 PM
IMO the resulting music quality was quite good, highly listenable, and is still popular today.  That speaks well for the music.

I disagree strongly but there's no disputing matters of taste.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 28, 2022, 04:05:28 AM
Motown isn't my least favorite music to listen to, but it's close. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 28, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
In the year of our Lord 2022, the early 80ies are alive and well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJC0Kwt2t2U

The lead guitarist, Sonja Anubis (her real name I'm sure), is eine Holländerin Dutch, I thought I'd mention that.

Flashdance (the movie) really needs a remake.

Speaking of Flashdance, Irene Cara died a day or two ago.  I still haven't heard exactly what happened.  Irene Cara, RIP.

https://youtu.be/wKWytyGTngU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 28, 2022, 10:31:49 PM
Poor Smiley Lewis, other artists got the hits he recorded first for Dave Bartholomew.

https://youtu.be/3dx97i0y868

https://youtu.be/7JceCEFld74

https://youtu.be/DXZDHK-n2EA





Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on November 29, 2022, 05:43:58 AM
Talk about bad luck. Fats got huge , Lewis was ignored.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 29, 2022, 09:25:14 AM
Yes, RIP, among the classic trio of chick flicks (Flashdance, Dirty Dancing and Pretty Woman), Flashdance is my favorite one - nicely filmed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 30, 2022, 02:51:28 PM
I disagree strongly but there's no disputing matters of taste.

That's fine, we already know our tastes sometimes differ.  You introduce me to good new (and new/old) stuff all the time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 30, 2022, 03:18:13 PM
Motown and Arena Rock - difficult with ole Dave ... Just imagine how he'd feel if some arena outfit did a Motown number, shudder the thought ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuXowR_nsE

Or some Heavy Metal Brits going Phillysound? Help!!! :rimshot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWDSjShaMCg




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on November 30, 2022, 05:01:57 PM
I saw Olivia Rodrigo's video for good 4 u on the new Beavis and Butthead (which is worlds better than the old one ever was) and I like it: Disney star gone sorta punk, and her acting in the video is hilarious. And bonus: she can actually play!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGczofguB0c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 30, 2022, 09:00:59 PM
I saw Olivia Rodrigo's video for good 4 u on the new Beavis and Butthead (which is worlds better than the old one ever was) and I like it: Disney star gone sorta punk, and her acting in the video is hilarious. And bonus: she can actually play!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGczofguB0c

I've noticed her several times.  She is on Disney+, too, and has a concert there.  But I've only had a chance to watch the first part so far.  She is unique and talented.  Her success is to be expected. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2022, 11:41:08 PM
That's fine, we already know our tastes sometimes differ.  You introduce me to good new (and new/old) stuff all the time.

And you do likewise. Just not Motown. ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 01, 2022, 02:18:35 AM
Motown and Arena Rock - difficult with ole Dave ... Just imagine how he'd feel if some arena outfit did a Motown number, shudder the thought ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuXowR_nsE

Or some Heavy Metal Brits going Phillysound? Help!!! :rimshot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWDSjShaMCg

To me the point isn't if a band such as Foghat or Judas Priest may have been influenced by Motown.  Because when all is said and done, they're playing rock, not Motown.  Personally, this is about people having music they really like, but who are not shy about telling you they don't like yours.   

I'd rather leave myself out of this, but I'll use an example of a former co-worker.  He was such an interesting guy.  A math Ph.D. who loved rock and had a passion for it, although he wasn't a musician.  This has to do with being around relatives who are about as anti-rock as it gets.  I've experienced it and so did this co-worker.  He said, for instance, he would get in a car with his sister to go on a trip.  He would get ready to play a CD (a rock one of course.)  She would always say something like "You're not going to play that shit again, are you?"  I'm not sure what her preferred genre was, but I think it might have been Motown.

Like I've said, I'd rather leave my own personal experiences out of it.  But the scenarios end up being similar.  You have your favorite genres and other people have theirs.  This isn't really just about relatives, but people in general.  They try to push their music on you, while disrespecting what you like.  To me it seems worse in real life than just on the Internet.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 02, 2022, 02:47:05 PM
Motown and Arena Rock - difficult with ole Dave ... Just imagine how he'd feel if some arena outfit did a Motown number, shudder the thought ...  :mrgreen:

...

I never said or implied that every Motown song was bad, same goes for arena rock outfits.

OTOH I do like some non-Motown covers better than the originals. For example:

https://youtu.be/wCCfc2vAuDU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 02, 2022, 05:04:09 PM
The boys from Flint doing something that is not quite Motown, but close (the original performers of the song, Soul Brothers Six, hailed from Rochester and released the song on Atlantic***):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7fYR_NurKg

The twin lead vocals of Brewer and Farner were severely underrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-7Op5eyJPc


***
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51LHNriPZf4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 04, 2022, 01:51:35 PM
When this guy is not battling hereditary diseases ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Blangero

https://www.utrgv.edu/som/stdoi/our-people/faculty-listing/blangero-john/index.htm

he does a little Blood, Sweat & Tear'ish/Chicago'ish music as 'Sun King Rising' at the side that I really like ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjvHmhsoXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUtqmgm75PU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 05, 2022, 03:47:23 PM
Maybe the prettiest tune Neil Young has ever written - and a great video to go with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on December 05, 2022, 04:53:42 PM
That’s the amazing Tim Drummond playing bass. He also played with Ry Cooder , and James Brown.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
Maybe the prettiest tune Neil Young has ever written - and a great video to go with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs

Yeah, I'm a sucker for that song too, the whole album actually - though old Neil has liked to distance himself from it, his personal hell must be recording "nice" and a little mawkish albums like Harvest Moon over and over. Never mind how it is one of his strongest sellers outside of the early 70ies.

(https://892192.smushcdn.com/2083448/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/CSPC-Neil-Young-albums-and-songs-sales-cover-2.png?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1)

The track also saw heavy MTV rotation at the time.

This here too (same album), that lyric

She used to work in a diner
Never saw a woman look finer
I used to order just to watch her float across the floor
She grew up in a small town
Never put her roots down
Daddy always kept movin', so she did too


always gives me goose bumps, hopeless romantic I am!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJNYjaZ_29k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 05, 2022, 11:30:16 PM
A friend posted this on FB, I had never seen it before.

Little Richard's screen test for The Girl Can't Help It.

https://youtu.be/8SlOj_-_rTI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 06, 2022, 01:26:07 AM
This song by Little Richard is pure dynamite even to this day. 
https://youtu.be/XJW-XQtycmw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 06, 2022, 11:12:38 AM
I like how this singer's voice sounds raspy in this cover of a Flashdance song.  Her name is Diamante.  I discovered her a few years ago, but then kind of lost track because I could never find any CDs by her (and still can't).  Although this is obviously a cover, she seems to do more original songs than anything else. 

https://youtu.be/ILoa3nMnzIc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2022, 01:24:43 PM
This song by Little Richard is pure dynamite even to this day. 
https://youtu.be/XJW-XQtycmw

He stole that lyric from Deep Purple (at 00:35)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLn1SUg1dKE

Seriously, why is his backing band all of the sudden all white?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2022, 03:14:18 PM
I like how this singer's voice sounds raspy in this cover of a Flashdance song.  Her name is Diamante.  I discovered her a few years ago, but then kind of lost track because I could never find any CDs by her (and still can't).  Although this is obviously a cover, she seems to do more original songs than anything else. 

https://youtu.be/ILoa3nMnzIc

Ah, 80ies chick AOR is alive and well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiTlgyzIuvI
(In case you wondered, Robin's version was first, Cher heard her version when Robin toured with her as her backing vocalist and covered it.)

Not that Cher's version was without merit, I never understood all the naysayers about her voice, it's totally distinctive if not a range shifting powerhouse like Robin Beck's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liCVzAY_rgc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2022, 03:45:35 PM
Kick-ass version of a T. Rex song, Billy Idol's voice is nothing like Marc Bolan's, but he does it justice - with John Oates on lead guitar. If you want to skip the Marc-revelling intro, the song starts at 01:50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRP10UOwb8

Idol is good at 70ies pop ... The Bonham'esque drum intro at 02:20 is hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ_JZ9EUd7M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2022, 03:10:44 AM
I wasn't quite expecting a topic which would include Little Richard, Deep Purple, Diamante, Robin Beck, Cher, Mark Bolan and Billy Idol.  But here it is it looks like.  I suppose Diamante is the least known, and even though I'm the one who brought her up, I don't even know much about her myself.  In the music world, she seems to be best known at this point for her guest vocals for artists such as Bad Wolves and Breaking Benjamin.  Which reminds me, I had been thinking of posting this Bad Wolves video.  (Diamante isn't on this one, though).

https://youtu.be/9XaS93WMRQQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2022, 07:39:42 AM
It's a pretty iconic song and hard to touch, but they've metallized it nicely. Reminds me of Disturbed.

Michael, you're fast becoming the resident metalhead here!  8)

PS: And no Purple fan worth his salt and with a little knowledge of music history would deny Little Richard's lasting legacy in that band as Ian Gillan's vocal style, Jon Lord's piano playing attack and the slightly frantic intensity of the music go. Basically, whenever DP Mk II played rock'n'roll type numbers, they sounded like a modernized Little Richard (and not like Chuck Berry like a lot of other bands), just listen to Lord's piano solo at 01:57 and Gillan's falsetto final verse at 02:35 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyenXwFKtlU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2022, 08:34:21 AM
I don't think of myself as a metalhead, although I do like some of it.  I tend to stay away from screaming metal.  BTW, Little Richard's screaming on Tutti Frutti has been noted by some people as an early example of screaming in rock. 

I can definitely hear what could be interpreted as a Little Richard influence on those Deep Purple piano parts and falsetto vocals.

BTW, I do like this kind of screaming in songs, but consider it to be an exception.  It's old.  I bought the CD in 2006.

https://youtu.be/iWIADZKU9dw



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2022, 06:40:15 PM
I got this as a You Tube recommendation a few hours ago.  This was an unusual and pleasant surprise.   :)

James Gang on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert

https://youtu.be/-_6Qlq1-YJQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2022, 06:51:27 PM
Yup, Blackmore saw that on TV at the time and not knowing that Tommy would be his successor with DP about a year later came away impressed.

"I originally heard him on Billy Cobham’s Spectrum album, and thought, ‘Who is this guy?!’ Then I saw him on television and he looked incredible – like Elvis Presley (Uwe: the Lamé suit ...). I knew he was gonna be big. When I heard that Purple hired him, I thought it was great. He was always so humble.”

That's a great performance of the Gang. People always complain about Roy Kenner ("wedding singer"), but I think he was a very good vocalist (probably the best one the Gang ever had unless you are hooked on Walsh's nasal tone) - his pitching on that live recording is ace.

Why that Don Kirshner performance has not been released on CD yet is beyond me.

The James Gang with Bolin and Kenner sort of had this hard rock version of a Doobie Brothers vibe going - I really liked that. Visually they were a sight as well: Kenner and Bolin all glammed up with stage clothes and multi-color hair, Peters and Fox like they were Foghat roadies - bit like Cheap Trick in fact.

And I really liked that heavily phased and Echoplex-laden (the Echoplex sits prominently on the bar stool right beside Tommy's mike at the James Gang gig) guitar sound Bolin had trademarked for himself, it was smooth and slinky, yet rocking, complementing his playing well. Didn't sound too bad with Purple either! (The vid doesn't really show them playing that particular song but was created by a fan in the aftermath from other performances.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhg75ranE0o

Tommy's lead guitar is everywhere on that track, but it never gets in the way, it's just joyously and life-affirmingly omnipresent. In fact, Purple with Bolin sounded closer to the James Gang with Bolin than to DP Blackmore era - Tommy put his stamp on everything. Or as Jon Lord once said: "Come Taste The Band " is not really a Deep Purple album, but it is a great, great album. A great Tommy Bolin album." :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 07, 2022, 09:51:02 PM
https://youtu.be/sAPoJg9CcPI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 08, 2022, 06:55:48 AM
Yup, Blackmore saw that on TV at the time and not knowing that Tommy would be his successor with DP about a year later came away impressed.

"I originally heard him on Billy Cobham’s Spectrum album, and thought, ‘Who is this guy?!’ Then I saw him on television and he looked incredible – like Elvis Presley (Uwe: the Lamé suit ...). I knew he was gonna be big. When I heard that Purple hired him, I thought it was great. He was always so humble.”

That's a great performance of the Gang. People always complain about Roy Kenner ("wedding singer"), but I think he was a very good vocalist (probably the best one the Gang ever had unless you are hooked on Walsh's nasal tone) - his pitching on that live recording is ace.

Why that Don Kirshner performance has not been released on CD yet is beyond me.

The James Gang with Bolin and Kenner sort of had this hard rock version of a Doobie Brothers vibe going - I really liked that. Visually they were a sight as well: Kenner and Bolin all glammed up with stage clothes and multi-color hair, Peters and Fox like they were Foghat roadies - bit like Cheap Trick in fact.

And I really liked that heavily phased and Echoplex-laden (the Echoplex sits prominently on the bar stool right beside Tommy's mike at the James Gang gig) guitar sound Bolin had trademarked for himself, it was smooth and slinky, yet rocking, complementing his playing well. Didn't sound too bad with Purple either! (The vid doesn't really show them playing that particular song but was created by a fan in the aftermath from other performances.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhg75ranE0o

Tommy's lead guitar is everywhere on that track, but it never gets in the way, it's just joyously and life-affirmingly omnipresent. In fact, Purple with Bolin sounded closer to the James Gang with Bolin than to DP Blackmore era - Tommy put his stamp on everything. Or as Jon Lord once said: "Come Taste The Band " is not really a Deep Purple album, but it is a great, great album. A great Tommy Bolin album." :mrgreen:

I had never seen that before.  I was extremely impressed.  I decided to read some of the comments.  Wow, some of them were really clueless.  Clueless is too mild of a word.  Some were saying Joe Walsh was better on guitar than Bolin.  Even Walsh himself said he wasn't as good as Tommy Bolin.  The harshest comments were about Roy Kenner.  Those were preposterous.  Many weren't even giving him half the credit he deserved.  I'm still puzzled what is going on in all these people's brains.  I don't know what they are thinking.  That entire performance was great.  I would love to have it on DVD and would play it over and over if only a DVD of it existed. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 08, 2022, 08:39:14 AM
Walsh even recommended Bolin to the James Gang because he thought he was so good. Fox, Peters and Kenner had no idea who he was and then first listened to Cobham's Spectrum (at least that is what Fox has said, but they must have listened to Spectrum pre-release then, that album only came out in Oct 73, by which time they had already released Bang with Tommy) initially wary how  a "jazzer" like Tommy was to fit in with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHCYPBI27tw
(People always think that the wild intro solo is Tommy - it's not. It's Jan Hammer on synth. Tommy
doesn't make a solo playing entrance until 01:50, he's mixed to the right, Jan to the left. No less
impressive though.)

But then after the first audition - much like with Purple a few years later - they were rapturous. He brought along tons of ideas, a gentle soul and looked wild.

(https://www.thehighwaystar.com/rosas/bolin/pix/bolin1.gif)

Spectrum impressed a lot of people back then, among them Jeff Beck (who then while still with BBA discovered Jazz Rock and entered his Blow By Blow/Wired phase in inspiration) and even Deep Purple who invited Tommy to audition on the strength of that album. A record that just spoke with people at the time, it's very much a "live in the studio" affair wth almost no doctoring. At 01:46 you can even hear Tommy break his high E-string after another bending excess, yet he continued to solo and they left the track as is, wishing to keep the inspiration captured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UXC88zVyKY

I don't know if Tommy was ever a "better" guitarist than Joe Walsh (who has strengths of his own), but he was certainly good enough to not bore Jeff Beck. And for Jeff to play bass for him. (The Tommy Bolin Band was opening for the Jeff Beck Group at the time.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWgg5y0rY3U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 08, 2022, 11:33:08 AM
Wow, I just read that Bolin was self-taught and completely played by ear.  I certainly did not know that. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 08, 2022, 01:06:12 PM
Yes, he didn't even know scales. That did cause issues when he was supposed to replicate Blackmore's signature moody and dark neo-classical solos on stuff like Highway Star and Burn note for note on the few songs Purple retained from their old set (80% of the set was Come Taste The Band and even Bolin solo material). He just couldn't and didn't. Asian, Oceanian and US audiences were forgiving about that - in the UK, where Blackmore was regarded as somewhat of a deity, it fell flat on its arse. Bolin got booed and at the end of the UK tour (which initially was supposed to continue into Continental Europe after a short break), Coverdale, Lord and Paice threw the towel without telling Bolin and Hughes. The reviews had been scathing and I remember letters in the NME by enraged heavy metal fans comparing Tommy unfavorably to Ace Frehley as Kiss were touring the UK for the first time around then too.

Martin Birch, the longstanding DP engineer and producer, said that unlike Ritchie who would often retreat to work things out, Bolin "relied entirely on feel". But while he was relaxed and even experimental/overdub-happy in the studio, he froze on stage if an audience did not immediately take to him. And British audiences especially were feared as jaded, aloof and spoilt.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 08, 2022, 05:54:06 PM
This makes Bolin even more comparable to Hendrix who also played by ear and relied totally on feel.  Lindsey Buckingham also plays by ear.  Of course he was never on the level of Hendrix or Bolin, but is still very good. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 09, 2022, 08:02:19 AM
I'm not sure that Lindsey isn't up there - he does things no other guitarist does or can do with the instrument. And he has Hendrix' driven and frantic ecstasy. Really good guitarists like Dave Mason and Mike Campbell couldn't give to Fleetwood Mac sonically what Lindsey gave them. And live his solos can really take you on a journey. I find him utterly remarkable and I'm not the greatest Fleetwood Mac fan on earth. Christine's pop on its own could sometimes be a little insubstantial, tuneful as it was, and Stevie is basically a one-trick-pony. Lindsey's guitar playing and Mick Fleetwood's drumming made Fleetwod Mac different to other bands.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 09, 2022, 08:41:12 AM
Well, tell that to the rest of Fleetwood Mac, who decided that it would take two people to replace Buckingham. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 09, 2022, 10:27:22 AM
An ill decision of Frau Nicks if there ever was one - not just replacing him with two, but replacing him at all.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 09, 2022, 10:42:56 AM
A decision which took them one step closer to becoming a Fleetwood Mac tribute band. and a not very good one at that.  Now that Christine McVie is gone, they might as well just give up.  I can't imagine going to see them in concert in this present situation. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 09, 2022, 03:41:00 PM
Well, it's the Stevie Nicks Band with a very good rhythm section then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 09, 2022, 04:13:36 PM
Can I just put this here?

https://youtu.be/vKtASyCinfc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 09, 2022, 08:34:07 PM
A love song by fans.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 10, 2022, 03:58:43 AM
At this point, it really would be more authentic if they actually did call themselves the Stevie Nicks Band.  No joking. 

I looked at what the Rotters said about their song Fleetwood Mac tried to stop.  They said they didn't need more help in screwing everything up.  Because their music already sucked and they were also lazy.  (I'm paraphrasing).  I would say it didn't stop them from having a great sense of humor, however. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 10, 2022, 07:27:07 AM
About 20 years ago, I had a brief email correspondence with Phester (Tom Chartier). He made it clear that in her current shape, he no longer wanted her to sit on his face. Hard to blame him for that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 10, 2022, 07:29:48 AM
Mississippi rockabilly/country singer and novelist Mack Allen Smith has passed.

https://youtu.be/44Obj_qxcdc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 10, 2022, 12:17:01 PM
About 20 years ago, I had a brief email correspondence with Phester (Tom Chartier). He made it clear that in her current shape, he no longer wanted her to sit on his face. Hard to blame him for that.

I must agree. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 10, 2022, 12:38:52 PM
Mississippi rockabilly/country singer and novelist Mack Allen Smith has passed.

https://youtu.be/44Obj_qxcdc

It's impossible to lighten the sadness of someone leaving.  But I appreciate the humor and absurdity of this song. 

Mack Allen Smith RIP

https://youtu.be/NeJ_ww7RcwI


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 10, 2022, 01:23:39 PM
About 20 years ago, I had a brief email correspondence with Phester (Tom Chartier). He made it clear that in her current shape, he no longer wanted her to sit on his face. Hard to blame him for that.

I must agree.


You two are awful. I feel smothered by your posts in poor taste.

(https://i.gifer.com/NfK.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 10, 2022, 10:43:45 PM
Here is Stevie Nicks with Sheryl Crow.
https://youtu.be/VKl0iRfUEgk

Now that I've run across this song by accident, I'm thinking this must have come before the Mack Allen Smith version.  I think a lot more stuff must happen at Walgreens than people realize. 
https://youtu.be/R8Urt7SKLI0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 10, 2022, 10:50:43 PM
This is the first song I ever heard by the proto-Allman Brothers--then known as the Hour Glass.  I had it on 45, but I think a former bandmate ended up with it.  I wish I still had that. 

https://youtu.be/s1q_IU4Jxfo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2022, 03:13:20 PM
That's actually nice, why did they give up playing it? Great groove.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 11, 2022, 06:54:15 PM
That's actually nice, why did they give up playing it? Great groove.

The album that was on didn't do well.  It was at a time when they were having trouble finding the right direction to move in.  The record company had pushed a producer on them who didn't like the blues rock the Allman Brothers preferred.  He wanted to push pop music on them and failed to fully appreciate how valuable Duane Allman was.  Duane got so fed up with the record company he left and went back to Alabama and Florida.  It was only when Gregg got to go back to Florida, too, that they really got things going.  This included being able to have Berry Oakley as the bassist.  According to Gregg, Berry and Duane playing together was essential for the sound the Allman Brothers really wanted.  As for the song itself, I'm not sure how the Allman Brothers felt about it.  I think I've read some stuff about this song which is inaccurate.  I hesitate to say much about it unless I'm sure. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 11, 2022, 11:07:42 PM
...
https://youtu.be/NeJ_ww7RcwI

That's a cover of an album cut from Homer & Jethro's 1965 album Old Crusty Minstrels.

But the original recording was a bit different, by Ruby Wright (daughter of Kitty Wells and Johnny Wright) with Pete Drake and his "talking" steel guitar. From 1964.

https://youtu.be/R8Urt7SKLI0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 11, 2022, 11:34:10 PM
I had completely forgotten about Homer & Jethro.  I looked it up and it said they performed a skit with June Carter Cash in which they sang "Baby It's Cold Outside" with her.  But now all I can find is audio for that song.  Of course they changed the lyrics.  I'm wondering if "Baby It's Cold Outside" will still be banned this year in some places.  That's quite a radical song, a little scary.  I hope people don't keep getting corrupted by it. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2022, 08:13:46 AM
Yes, people suddenly getting offended by a song that's been around for generations.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2022, 09:38:17 AM
Yes, people suddenly getting offended by a song that's been around for generations.
Well I was a little offended by Broke my heart at Walgreens but I'm good with the rest of 'em. 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2022, 11:42:12 AM
Sigh. Even classics aren't spared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxXV2UftL7Q

Who wants to live in a world where one of the best rock'n'roll songs on earth is no longer allowed?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2022, 11:44:24 AM
And what about heartfelt romantic songs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52kToozmfCE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 12, 2022, 12:05:38 PM
These guys are pretty good as a backing band. I never paid attention to Glen Campbell as a kid - unjustly wrote him off as "boring country" because I was young and dumb... Quite a voice, and I like the understated baritone solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jPApGpQy9c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on December 12, 2022, 12:33:18 PM
I had to go check this out after this twitter exchange - Vernon Reid and Aimee Mann are about as far apart stylistically as you can get, so if they're lined up on this, I figured it was worth a listen.
https://twitter.com/aimeemann/status/1602107403247370241

The lyrics are about as dark as it gets; very strange how light and almost chipper the tune is. It works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4c_r5VY8c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on December 12, 2022, 12:36:20 PM
When I first got a BassVI that was one of the first things I played.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2022, 05:16:22 PM
I always thought Gilber O'Sullivan a very individual songwriter and vastly underrated. Thoughtful lyrics too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2022, 10:46:49 PM
I always thought Gilber O'Sullivan a very individual songwriter and vastly underrated. Thoughtful lyrics too.

He's no Leo Sayer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2022, 05:25:39 AM
It's funny how these two - Leo & Gilbert - always get lumped together (even by me!). Same era, diminutive frames (though Gilbert is a full five inches taller than Leo - him sitting at the piano you just never really noticed - and not really that small), both pop singer-songwriters, curly/wavy hair.

I like Leo's work too, it's mostly love songs, but that's ok. Never thought the lyrics of "When I Need You" too bad, but then that was an Albert Hammond song (another guy with curly hair!) who was always good with lyrics, his "It Never Rains In Southern California" has a cinemascopic text.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 15, 2022, 10:41:59 AM
Yes, people suddenly getting offended by a song that's been around for generations.

I do not enjoy the trend of taking music and literature of decades or centuries past and demeaning its worth based on current social standards.  Granted, we feel that we are more enlightened today, but that's not a reason to deny the worth of a creative work that was in tune with the social customs and mores of its time.  Petruchio "tamed" Kate, not vice versa, and they didn't have to go to couples counseling to work it out in a non-gender-biased way.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 16, 2022, 10:58:37 PM
I had never heard of Eric Hisaw until today, when a friend who knows him posted on FB that he and his wife had been hit by gunfire in Austin in an apparent random drive-by. She was grazed, he was shot in the calf and will have to miss work until the end of the year.

https://www.erichisaw.com/site/

https://youtu.be/eyQU0wRGKTw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 19, 2022, 01:52:00 PM
It sounds like something that might happen in Atlanta.  I hear Atlanta stories maybe more than I'd like. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 19, 2022, 01:59:09 PM
Olivia Rodrigo looks like somebody yanked her out of her dressing room before she had completely finished dressing.  Despite that and despite her singing partner (Alanis Morissette) cancelling, she does pretty well here.  After watching that, I watched a documentary about her on Disney+.  She is just starting out but is serious about songwriting.  She said she gets her inspiration from country songs because of their specificity and authenticity.  Her songs, of course, are pop, but not so vapid as is all too common with pop music in general.  There was one song on the documentary that sounded more like rock than pop, but I can't find it now.  I still haven't seen her Tiny Desk Home Concert which was mentioned earlier in the thread, but definitely will when I can. 

https://youtu.be/lNgMTxt7JYE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 20, 2022, 05:06:40 AM
https://youtu.be/rdu8VOWk3pg

RIP Terry Hall
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2022, 09:57:25 AM
Olivia Rodrigo looks like somebody yanked her out of her dressing room before she had completely finished dressing.  Despite that and despite her singing partner (Alanis Morissette) cancelling, she does pretty well here.  After watching that, I watched a documentary about her on Disney+.  She is just starting out but is serious about songwriting.  She said she gets her inspiration from country songs because of their specificity and authenticity.  Her songs, of course, are pop, but not so vapid as is all too common with pop music in general.  There was one song on the documentary that sounded more like rock than pop, but I can't find it now.  I still haven't seen her Tiny Desk Home Concert which was mentioned earlier in the thread, but definitely will when I can. 

https://youtu.be/lNgMTxt7JYE

I'm too old and too much a fan of Frau Simon for faux panty hose stockings, a mini dress with waist cut-outs and a mannered lascivicous/jailbait delivery (that totally grates with the song) to impress me. Carly was 29 when she wrote and sang that song, Olivia is 19 and has "ex-Disney+ child actor slowly leaving adolescence behind" written all over her. But You're So Vain is a song for a woman, not a girl. Olivia would do a more convincing job covering Tiffany's I Think We're Alone Now, there is a time for everything.

But then even her performance is better than the abysmal guitar solo which sounds like a guitar solo must sound to you if you absolutely hate guitar solos. Noteworthy in its angular unmusicality and tone-deaf string bending, yuk.

I see Steven Tyler in the audience, did he have a day off from rehab?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 20, 2022, 10:33:24 AM
I'm too old and too much a fan of Frau Simon for faux panty hose stockings, a mini dress with waist cut-outs and a mannered lascivicous/jailbait delivery (that totally grates with the song) to impress me. Carly was 29 when she wrote and sang that song, Olivia is 19 and has "ex-Disney+ child actor slowly leaving adolescence behind" written all over her. But You're So Vain is a song for a woman, not a girl. Olivia would do a more convincing job covering Tiffany's I Think We're Alone Now, there is a time for everything.

But then even her performance is better than the abysmal guitar solo which sounds like a guitar solo must sound to you if you absolutely hate guitar solos. Noteworthy in its angular unmusicality and tone-deaf string bending, yuk.

I see Steven Tyler in the audience, did he have a day off from rehab?

I'm not familiar with Olivia Rodrigo's Disney background.  I took note of her when @Psycho Bass Guy posted a performance by her earlier in this thread.  Considering she seems to be a pop singer, I was a little surprised she did that well on the song.  I read through the comments, and it's clear she is a very polarizing figure.  People seem to like or dislike her immediately.  But I did hate that guitar solo which totally sucked.  I'm not a prude by any means.  But I did think that outfit Olivia Rodrigo wore was unnecessarily risque.  I'm sure it wasn't her idea, but I'm also sure she might have suggested that she be allowed to wear something a little more refined.  Prior to @Psycho Bass Guy's post, I actually had watched a few minutes of her documentary on Disney +.  But it was only much later that I finished watching all of it.  I did know who Olivia Rodrigo was, but just barely. 

I'm rarely around my friend who is the Aerosmith fan.  So I don't much keep up with anyone in the band, although I do like Tom Hamilton and Brad Whitford.  I don't have much use for anyone else in the band.  So I didn't pay much attention to Steven Tyler being there. 

BTW, I forgot to add something.  I mentioned Alanis Morissette.  But I ran across more details after that.  She was supposed to be there singing with Olivia.  She even rehearsed with her.  But at the last minute she cancelled, saying the production team was sexist and disrespectful.  That left Olivia Rodrigo with a sudden added responsibility of doing everything herself.  I thought she handled it like a trouper.  You could tell she was a little unsure about things, especially, of course, her vocals.  But I think she came out pretty smoothly. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on December 20, 2022, 11:47:59 AM
I don't like "You're so Vain" anyway. (The melody always makes me think of "Two Outta Three Ain't Bad" which has a less stilted structure, like Meatloaf heard it and "fixed" it a few years later.) It's definitely NOT a song suited to Olivia, but she did better with it than I expected. Her album is basically a giant middle finger to an ex that was older and dumped her, so I'm sure that's where the idiot producers got the idea to recast her as Carly Simon against an older "anonymous" suitor who spurned her. Likewise for Alanis, whom I imagine would do even worse with it. Dave Coulier is no Warren Beatty. If nothing else, Olivia was a professional. Gotta give it to the mouse; his graduates are seldom slackers. And yes, that guitar solo was awful. Not too crazy about the horns either. That's not a song that calls for bombast.

 Her wardrobe choice is pretty consistent with how she is dressed for awards show performances lately and it looks like to me that her image consultants are trying to offset her small chest while still trying to show it off. Or she could just be a 19 year old who knows she is pretty and likes to show off her body. Her sex appeal doesn't sell me anyway. I like her voice and attitude. I expect that she's got some great music in her future. Here's her video that I like so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNi_6U5Pm_o

..and it's even funnier in the context of the Beavis and Butthead episode which featured it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi5VQjfR6Qo

 I absolutely cannot see the original video and not laugh now.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2022, 02:59:48 PM
For the record: It wasn't the notes Olivia sang or did not sing (she did fine in that department), Olivia probably has a better range than Carly ever had, who wasn't the most athletic female singer on earth even in her heyday (she just had a pleasant voice with a nice timbre). Olivia basically sang the song phonetically - she might as well have sung Sweet Home Alabama without knowing what "Neil Young", "Southern Man", "the governor in Birmingham" and "Watergate" mean. I don't think she had any grasp of what the words

You had me several years ago when I was still quite naive
Well you said that we made such a pretty pair and that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved
And one of them was me
I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee clouds in my coffee


feel like to a grown woman who meets a former lover years later, that mix of wistful longing and kicking yourself for ever having succumbed to the guy's charm.

Whether Olivia also has a nice voice (like Carly), I can't really tell from her "Paramore meets Taylor Swift with a generous dose of Britney"-vid and the overproduced audio track. And tell me, liebe Amerikaner, is being a cheerleader (or not being one) still such a national obsession with you as all these vids featuring young women artists seem to indicate?  In the Year Of Our Lord 2022, it strikes me as something so archaic and wholly untouched by the feminism discussion of recent years and decades (which wasn't all bad, you know), I kind of wonder and scratch my head. Playboy Bunny and flight attendant have gone somewhat out of style as career choices for women, but the cheerleader really seems to hold on fast. What would only Daria & Jane say?!

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Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2022, 03:13:56 PM
https://youtu.be/rdu8VOWk3pg

RIP Terry Hall

63 is young - may he not rest in peace, but dance the skank in blissful trance forever.

I've never been a Ska guy, but The Specials even I could appreciate - if perhaps not for the duration of a full album! Ska elements can sound great to spice up a song like here at 0:52 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtn8-urTYTE

but to me it's a spice to be used sparingly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2022, 03:36:05 PM
I was wondering why Carly didn't show up at her RRHoF induction (she intended to). Now I know:

In October 2022, Simon lost both of her sisters to cancer within a day of each other. Joanna Simon died on October 19, 2022 from thyroid cancer and Lucy Simon died the following day from metastatic breast cancer. Her brother Peter Simon previously died from lung cancer on November 18, 2018.

Talk about a devastating personal tragedy.

(https://people.com/thmb/VJp31Uv59mdrXaM5uwTdiHDvhw8=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(854x209:856x211)/Lucy-Simon-and-Joanna-Simon-02-102122-77ee2a7d20b04a3689d7a0aa22e6ecd8.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 20, 2022, 10:07:32 PM
Charlie Gracie has passed at 86. One of the earliest white rockers and maybe the first from Philadelphia. Always seen with his big Guild X-350. He became a footnote here but he did an annual UK tour for many years.

On Ed Sullivan, 1957

https://youtu.be/YSf9pMcEdHE

London, 2017

https://youtu.be/U3v4c8NHTN0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 21, 2022, 02:45:17 PM
I can relate to the lyrics.

https://youtu.be/Z_QlUBgz1I8

Add a little cowbell and it's reminiscent of this.

https://youtu.be/NZoN0-OyqQQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 21, 2022, 05:22:59 PM
Are you missing the New Braunfels sun, lieber Dave?

(https://weather-and-climate.com/uploads/average-sunshine-united-states-of-america-new-braunfels-texas-us.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNK1G3wSy9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcQj3aNbgE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgCKNxjTqU

These guys are pretty darn good, Dave has Winter depressions and I get to discover an excellent new band!

But I know how you feel, by the time we have January/February, I'm always starved for UV light here too and lap it up with the first rays like some drained lizard.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 21, 2022, 07:02:31 PM
Are you missing the New Braunfels sun, lieber Dave?

(https://weather-and-climate.com/uploads/average-sunshine-united-states-of-america-new-braunfels-texas-us.png)


Not really, except for a very few days every winter. I do miss some friends, though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 04:01:50 AM
Are Minnesotans more withdrawn than Texans?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 08:49:34 AM
I believe the word is rambunctious for this particular rendition of the timeless classic. Dutch TV studios are wild and dangerous places.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWgwTe01kMU

With cameos of Chrissie Hynde and, jawohl, Nena (they share similar haircuts so they are kind of difficult to tell apart!).

It must have been a lighthearted evening for all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfFgWjSWl98
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 22, 2022, 09:11:58 AM
Are Minnesotans more withdrawn than Texans?

I'm not sure about "withdrawn," but I know that if you trespass on ranch land in Texas you're likely to discover that Texans are more heavily armed. Do not disregard this sign. 

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0754/2277/products/TSCRAMetalGateSign_2048x2048_caaf7fba-e16f-4d05-892a-758c1c786e62.jpg?v=1425568686)

When I was at Texas A&M and we were shooting video on ranches, it was a considerable comfort to me that the state cars we used had a large A&M logo on the side.  As the land-grant university in TX, using the university name opens a lot of doors anywhere in the rural areas of the state. 


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 10:00:42 AM
I take it that ASSN. is short for Assassins?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 22, 2022, 12:07:42 PM
I take it that ASSN. is short for Assassins?  :mrgreen:

You are correct.  Don't mess with Texas. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 12:21:11 PM
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Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 22, 2022, 12:28:20 PM
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Exactly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 01:17:50 PM
To my defense: I've rented cars at Alamo, so that kind of shows I remembered it!  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 01:35:51 PM
It only occurred to me now, there is not too many songs by one band (as opposed to multiple artists collaborating) where the three verses are sung by three different band members in succession. Ridley's cool "yeah" during Marriott's histrionics at 3:09 is priceless.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgslos32mk

Frampton was/is severly underrated as a lead guitarist. His (pretty) locks and (pleasant) voice got in the way of deserved appreciation for what he does best.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 22, 2022, 03:55:13 PM
It's sad that he's suffering from a disease that is crippling him. He had to play the last shows of his final tour while seated.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 22, 2022, 05:00:19 PM
To my defense: I've rented cars at Alamo, so that kind of shows I remembered it!  8)

Valid point.   :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 22, 2022, 05:37:31 PM
The Texas & Southwestern Cattle Raiser's Association (TSCRA) was formed in 1877 and has its own law enforcement branch which is commissioned as Special Texas Rangers:  "TSCRA’s Special Rangers are an elite group of law enforcement officers who have extensive knowledge of the cattle industry and primarily investigate cattle theft and other agricultural crimes, though they are well-trained in all facets of law enforcement. In all, TSCRA has 30 Special Rangers stationed throughout Texas and Oklahoma who are commissioned through the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) or Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI)."

Although they are not regular Texas Rangers and their efforts are confined to stock theft and similar offenses, the TSCRA Rangers are no one to fool with.  Here's a bit of history:  https://roadsandkingdoms.com/2015/ride-on-texas-ranger/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 22, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
It's sad that he's suffering from a disease that is crippling him. He had to play the last shows of his final tour while seated.

Yup, it really will be his final tour, it's a mean illness, he will eventually lose control of all his limbs. I saw him a couple of years ago - he played all of Framton Comes Alive and then some, the gig lasted some two and a half hours. Stanley Sheldon had rejoined his band at that time too - great gig it was.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 23, 2022, 10:43:06 PM
https://youtu.be/fPPCPqDINEk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 26, 2022, 08:11:03 AM
https://youtu.be/to2cze58R5E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 27, 2022, 02:31:52 PM
That's a very unorthodox style of playing banjo - you can tell they didn't have lot of youtube tutorials back then.  :mrgreen: Or maybe Tony thought it was a sitar.  8) (Or: Given that the song is about the charms of a belly-dancer, maybe he tried to recreate a sitar sound with the banjo because there was no sitar in the studio.)

Speaking of which, here in this live reording two years earlier (still with Graham Nash), Tony Hicks is using something sitar-like to play the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVjHv1KhZPk

The vid Dave posted, here in better quality and with Allan Clarke's announcement,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02T7BnRhQ74

is from 1969 (a performance in a Scandinavian TV show) and already features Nash's sucessor Terry Sylvester. Nash had left a year before having become estranged from the group serving only the singles market (and his music and lyrics being deemed uncommercial) - with the  The Hollies Sing Dylan project bringing things to a head. There is also another half-live (vocals live with studio backing track) version on youtube from 1968, shortly before Nash left,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzkcqB4xCDI

where you can hear how much more dominant Nash's falsetto was compared to the (faultless, but less immediately recognizable) one of Sylvester. It automatically reminds me of CSN&Y when he joins in.

And this is The Hollies doing it live 7 years later (of course with Sylvester, I saw them live around that time and they were great) - also with the banjo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lywOJy3qQs8

And where is the Purple connection you cry?! Easy, Ian Paice is a great fan of Hollies drummer Bobby Elliott (and, unusual for a drummer who is often viewed as a more technical player, also of Ringo Starr) and cites him as one of his early influences.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 27, 2022, 11:00:39 PM
The first video you posted is outstanding.

I never imagined that a banjo was used on the recording.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 28, 2022, 09:13:14 AM
I thought the guitar in the first video in Uwe's post looked like some kind of multi-string Vox Phantom.  The body outline is similar. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 28, 2022, 01:54:32 PM
https://youtu.be/sfyCG6Pv0Vk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 28, 2022, 05:14:21 PM
I thought the guitar in the first video in Uwe's post looked like some kind of multi-string Vox Phantom.  The body outline is similar.

It does, but didn't Vox do something sitar-like as well? Perhaps it was converted to get a sitar-like sound because they didn't want to lug a heavy Banjo around for just one song. Not that those Vox gadgets were exactly known for sitar-sound-endangering sustaaaaaaiiiin.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 28, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
Finally, Priest get some butts on the dance floor a movin'!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKT-jiCkKXU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 28, 2022, 10:53:02 PM
https://youtu.be/ZztYiIqx8XI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 29, 2022, 05:15:19 PM
Marianne is 77 today.

https://youtu.be/4SB8rwJlNM4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 29, 2022, 10:26:56 PM
https://youtu.be/ZztYiIqx8XI

People have said it before, but Bonamassa's singing isn't anywhere near his guitar playing. Him singing lead is a bit like Paul Rodgers being adamant about playing lead guitar on stage and not just sing and play some rhythm. Why he doesn't get himself a great singer, but continues in his quest to emulate all the great bluesmen who played guitar and sang, is beyond me. He doesn't have a terrible voice (not like Gary Moore) and hits all the right notes, but it's not naturally expressive and sounds learned.

And Derek Trucks is likley the greatest living slide guitarist today if not the - with all due respect to Duane Allman and Johnny Winter -  greatest one ever. Friggin' amazing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 29, 2022, 10:33:50 PM
Marianne is 77 today.

https://youtu.be/4SB8rwJlNM4

When did her voice change from so clean to so broken? She had that pure folkie voice, spent a couple or years with the Stones and all of the sudden it's ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcwHBNfNtA8

Is that what Mick and Keef do to you if you are not cut out for their life style?

It's a Shel Silverstein song covered first by Dr Hook in the mid-seventies (bonus track on their first Greatest Hits album), but Marianne's version several years later was of course the internationally successful one. I still think that Dennis Locorriere's version is the more emotionally gripping one though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0KsK-Ftzpg

Has Marianne regained her voice? Last I heard she had lost it due to some failed surgery?

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 30, 2022, 01:24:25 AM
People have said it before, but Bonamassa's singing isn't anywhere near his guitar playing. Him singing lead is a bit like Paul Rodgers being adamant about playing lead guitar on stage and not just sing and play some rhythm. Why he doesn't get himself a great singer, but continues in his quest to emulate all the great bluesmen who played guitar and sang, is beyond me. He doesn't have a terrible voice (not like Gary Moore) and hits all the right notes, but it's not naturally expressive and sounds learned.

And Derek Trucks is likley the greatest living slide guitarist today if not the - with all due respect to Duane Allman and Johnny Winter -  greatest one ever. Friggin' amazing.

B.B. King said Derek Trucks was about the best he had ever heard. 
https://youtu.be/NStwL5SKMso
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on December 30, 2022, 05:07:17 AM
People have said it before, but Bonamassa's singing isn't anywhere near his guitar playing. Him singing lead is a bit like Paul Rodgers being adamant about playing lead guitar on stage and not just sing and play some rhythm. Why he doesn't get himself a great singer, but continues in his quest to emulate all the great bluesmen who played guitar and sang, is beyond me. He doesn't have a terrible voice (not like Gary Moore) and hits all the right notes, but it's not naturally expressive and sounds learned.

And Derek Trucks is likley the greatest living slide guitarist today if not the - with all due respect to Duane Allman and Johnny Winter -  greatest one ever. Friggin' amazing.

I'm not saying Gary Moore had the best of singing voices but to me Bonamassa does'nt come near him. Joe's voice mostly makes me cringe, he sounds like Kermit. Can't argue on Derek Trucks though, superb player.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 30, 2022, 05:26:48 AM
As with his guitar playing, less would have sometimes been mo(o)re with Gary. Always max intensity on every note, whether singing or playing, very tiring after a while. And unlike his guitar tone, his lead vocals weren't that great to warrant being the center of attention all the time.

You don't have to be a great singer as a lead guitar frontman as long as your voice isn't unpleasant and has some expression (which does not mean you have to wrench out every vocal tone like Gary Moore did). I liked the voices of say, Jimi Hendrix, Alvin Lee, Rory Gallagher, Johnny Winter and even Frank Zappa.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 30, 2022, 05:36:12 AM
People have said it before, but Bonamassa's singing isn't anywhere near his guitar playing. Him singing lead is a bit like Paul Rodgers being adamant about playing lead guitar on stage and not just sing and play some rhythm. Why he doesn't get himself a great singer, but continues in his quest to emulate all the great bluesmen who played guitar and sang, is beyond me.

That is because people like Joe Bonamassa surround themselves with personnel that does not dare to speak the truth.
If everybody around you constantly keeps praising every fart you let out, you start believing it's awesome yourself.

Same goes for the high squeels the Glenn Hughes keeps/kept belting out every third line in his songs, for years. Somebody should have told him to stop it and just sing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on December 30, 2022, 06:54:28 AM
Why does Derek intermittantly hit the open low strings with his thumb while playing?

When I first heard this on a live recording, I thought it was a faulty recording...but apparently it is an accurate representation of the performance.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 30, 2022, 09:59:01 AM
I think it's both a fingerpicking remnant in his slide playing (he only plays with his fingers) and a percussive/drone effect, he always uses - just like his role model Duane Allman - an open E major tuning (E B E G# B E), regardless in what key he solos or the song is in. And he has a strong sitar influence which is why some peole say his style is "Mississippi Delta meets Ganges Delta".

You can see the thumb working here at 09:50:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwaau9mMQ-M

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 30, 2022, 10:18:32 AM
Same goes for the high squeals Glenn Hughes keeps/kept belting out every third line in his songs, for years. Somebody should have told him to stop it and just sing.

To his defense: He has toned that down a lot with The Dead Daisies because they actually asked him to!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0ebNlhkV8

Of course, with Glenn some falsetto gyrations are always part of the package, but if you listen to their last singles, he only reverts to his upper register sparingly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da_0l8HmICg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60yWt1bzGzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZQHeCwpqkU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 30, 2022, 12:44:49 PM
I'm down on Bonamassa since his Red Rocks concert was a wankfest with him as the star.  It doesn't make a great set when every tune is unending solos by the same guy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 30, 2022, 12:51:17 PM
I'm down on Bonamassa since his Red Rocks concert was a wankfest with him as the star.  It doesn't make a great set when every tune is unending solos by the same guy.

Exactly! I saw him live once. He had this amazing rhythm section of Eric Czar and Jerry Gaskil. But he didn't use their musical talents at all.
Each song -that was originally three minutes- was extended to a ten minute wankfest of Bonamassa diminishing his band members to repeating the blues pattern over and over again.
A very disappointing evening.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 30, 2022, 02:44:54 PM
Exactly! I saw him live once. He had this amazing rhythm section of Eric Czar and Jerry Gaskil. But he didn't use their musical talents at all.
Each song -that was originally three minutes- was expended to a ten minute wankfest of Bonamassa diminishing his band members to repeating the blues pattern over and over again.
A very disappointing evening.

You summed it up nicely.  And it's a shame, because he's  great player.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2022, 11:03:05 PM
Agree with the comments about his singing, and about his yes men. But the video I posted was a tribute to Freddie King, not one of Joe's self-promoting wankfests.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2022, 11:06:41 PM
Last month in Los Angeles. Good to see even though their voices aren't what they were in 1976.

https://youtu.be/8uZj-OyAkC8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 31, 2022, 04:08:37 AM
Agree with the comments about his singing, and about his yes men. But the video I posted was a tribute to Freddie King, not one of Joe's self-promoting wankfests.

It was worth being posted for the Trucks solo alone who btw is also a case in point for vocal self-restraint, he lets his wife do it (well).

I also found the vid interesting because it shows that playing skimpy string gauges comes at a price: Gibbons' solo sound doesn‘t - in comparison - have the attack and directness of either Bonamassa or Trucks, it actually sounds pretty feeble (and he is after all playing his standard rig because I assume it is a ZZ Top show).

In Germany, that track is incidentally best known in the version of Berlin soul rock funksters Karthago who featured Glenn Cornick in their ranks for a while. It used to be quite a rock disco dance floor stomper in their Doobie Brothers‘ish treatment of it:

https://youtu.be/GzKb2tZEqmI

Freddie King sure had his fans everywhere (sorry Dave, I couldn‘t resist, you know where all threads end here):

https://youtu.be/wM9tIPuBpfg


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 02, 2023, 06:42:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQrVFjQa1E

LOL I, they were never this tight in the 70ies!  :rimshot: I actually saw them in that line-up, it was redeeming as I never had the chance to see them in the 70ies. (Not that they always went down well as you can see by the puzzled to reserved look of the audience in the following vid.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP5ngHRuoTI

LOL II, that 'solo' Johnny Thunders plays, no one would ever have mistaken him with Jeff Beck, but it still was genius.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 03, 2023, 08:00:09 AM
Two bass players in the Midnight Special clip?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 03, 2023, 08:59:40 AM
Good eyes, Tom, you unlovely meter maid, and a TBird player (in the far left corner) to boot - when else have the two most Fender-iconoclastic basses, Ric 4001 and TBird Rev, shared the same stage?!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--mJzrlLQn-Q/WkLMNaFR1NI/AAAAAAAAXEU/ly1VS41UYCo0AFCieHrD1yIxmN4wMTEtACLcBGAs/s1600/New%2BYork%2BDolls%2B-%2BMidnight%2BSpecial%252C%2B10-19-73%2B%25282%2529.jpg)

But the explanation is plainly visible too, Killer Kane's Kast so to say, which has a somewhat illustrious bacckground:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSaDfL8XJOWOJfdZt383SZ2u9lPvsK7cwCxcw&usqp=CAU)

In 2005 the documentary, New York Dolls: All Dolled Up, was released on DVD. The directors, rock photographer Bob Gruen, and his then wife, Nadya Beck, owned an early video camera and shot many hours of footage of the Dolls in the early 1970s. Edited down to 95 minutes, the black and white film shows the Dolls in different locales, such as backstage or at an airport, and documents several of the Doll's live performances in New York City and California. Kane appears in some of the footage wearing a plaster cast on his left arm. This was the result of his volatile girlfriend Connie Gripp (1947 - 83) attempting to cut off his thumb so that he would be unable to play bass anymore. In his autobiography, fellow bass player and Dolls fan Dee Dee Ramone mentioned Kane when discussing Connie, whom he himself later dated. Dee Dee and Connie's similarly violent and tumultuous relationship would inspire the 1977 Ramones song "Glad to See You Go".

The TBird II played by the stand-in bassist must have been his though judging from the above pic. At some gigs Kane even just sang backing vocals as long as he wore the cast,

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgTBI2MaEYEkInnrJVvQnCJBIwX_KjRIKJtRZ2RQgwOpIlCxyGLLTItZLZHWb35NiWwgY&usqp=CAU)

possibly for that Midnight Special performance he just pretended to be able to play and they didn't even send his signal through. If you watch his fretting hand and listen closely, you notice that there is a bass playing rock'n'roll lines in eighth notes/quavers at times, but that it isn't Arthur who is just hitting quarter, half and full notes and changing the root with the guitarists' chords due to his hands forced immobility. From the audio and over my laptop I'm unable to discern whether you can hear a bit of him or not.

Honorary feature: Culprit Connie the Thumb (G)Ripper with yet another bassist victim!!!

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/45/39/73/453973a60fe94f5eb0e26773c8c6c82b--ramones-bass-guitars.jpg)

No idea who the guy playing the TBird is though, but at least they put him on stage and did not hide him behind the amps, though obviously with the stage directions: "No boots, no glam (a no less than legendary phrase here after all!) and dontcha ever move either!" He looks like they nicked him from a Foghat gig.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on January 03, 2023, 04:49:41 PM

No idea who the guy playing the TBird is though, but at least they put him on stage and did not hide him behind the amps, though obviously with the stage directions: "No boots, no glam

That ought to be their roadie Peter Jordan. He would fill in for Arthur Kane if he was cut in his thumb or too drunk to play.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 03, 2023, 05:56:24 PM
Uhum, do we have a closet Dolls fan among us, even one who - gasp! - likes Morrissey?!

I actually like him too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 04, 2023, 10:57:57 PM
Listening to the Feelgoods do Riot in Cell Block Number Nine reminded me of this. I loved it at the time.

https://youtu.be/nwqWIMk4W_s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 05, 2023, 08:55:55 AM
This really gets in my head and keeps replaying.  Very catchy tune...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJc7OPpqMww
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
I can relate. The Talking Heads had a pleasant nerdy catchiness.

Never mind tnat Tina's quarter notes in the intro weren't quite Michael's in precision ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enL_lzVyNdM

But then he played those with his forehead of course!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5txwFv-zYM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2023, 06:03:31 PM
And I used to think that people from Bakersfield "always have the Laaawd by their side". Apparently not, you can't even trust the Stones anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyK1bZZ7E-s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 05, 2023, 09:26:06 PM
This really gets in my head and keeps replaying.  Very catchy tune...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJc7OPpqMww

Very catchy indeed.

https://youtu.be/wTOomuSAFAY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 05, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
Not so much Talking Heads as Singing Poultry - at the time, it took me a while to tell the two versions apart, I first thought both were from the Talking Heads!  :mrgreen: But knowing David Byrne (or rather not knowing him), I'm not sure he thought the Fools' version all that funny.

Byrne's legendary intro version with the boom box on Stop Making Sense was of course great minimalist art. And rehearsed to perfection, nerdy stops and all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM9SHDNAbPw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 06, 2023, 11:33:39 AM
My wife and I went to see The Fabelmans on New Years' eve.  It's one of those pictures that surprises you because there's a lot more in it than you expect - like Secondhand Lions or October Sky.

At the end, the boy (Spielberg as a youth) has an "audience" with John Ford, one of the shining star directors of Hollywood.  I couldn't place the actor playing Ford, but there was something familiar about him.  I was taken aback watching the credits to see that it was David Byrne!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 06, 2023, 03:08:41 PM
David Byrne can totally get on my nerves.  However, I like this song quite a lot.  It's superb, IMO.


https://youtu.be/jShMQw2H2cM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 07, 2023, 09:46:17 PM
Ponty Bone was a part of the 70s-80s Lubbock scene that included Joe Ely, Butch Hancock and Jimmie Dale Gilmore. He died of a rare degenerative disease in 2018.

https://youtu.be/DXdtUjna2Nw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Do I hear a Zydeco influence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyfrK4LrXaQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on January 08, 2023, 02:16:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBcMbYP2ng
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2023, 02:26:32 PM
Reminds me of ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7cbq4iQuPc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2023, 06:19:16 PM
The little guy from Minnesota channeling his inner Little Richard ...



https://youtu.be/GffZLKRrVkk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 08, 2023, 10:43:29 PM
Do I hear a Zydeco influence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyfrK4LrXaQ

Definitely.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 12, 2023, 09:01:05 AM
Listening to the whole album right now, hard to believe it's over 50 years old now,

https://youtu.be/bXzxWRFAUUE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 13, 2023, 07:16:50 PM
Eva Under Fire is a band from Detroit which is beginning to get a little attention.  Eva is the stage name of the lead singer.  Her real name is Amanda (named after the Boston song.)  She has an M.A. in psychology and works as a therapist in the day.  As the band has become more successful, she seems to be doing less of that as she spends more time with her band. 

They have a new album which I listened to for the first time today.  Comatose is my favorite, but for some reason they didn't do a video of it, only a video with lyrics.  They don't do many covers, but evidently "Separate Ways" is a crowd favorite, although it isn't on the new album.  The song the lead singer Eva says is the most personal is Heroin(e) because both of her parents were heroin addicts.

In a sense, it might seem like what's being done with this Eva Under Fire music is a form of music therapy.  But I've had a music therapist friend for a long time.  To me this is something clearly different.  It's more like a psychotherapist familiar with rock taking her work to the field, IMO.

https://youtu.be/smnkcKe52Ic

https://youtu.be/hDWC3_3ADYY

https://youtu.be/vFk9seZZCAE




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2023, 06:34:31 AM
She has a nice voice and I like their own stuff, but no one can sing Separate Ways with the same somber-plaintive, yet soaring emotional intensity of Steve Perry. As transmitting feelings go, it's his strongest, most gripping vocal performance with Journey and that includes all their many ballads. It's like no one can do Go Your Own Way like Lindsey Buckingham either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 16, 2023, 09:56:49 AM
She has a nice voice and I like their own stuff, but no one can sing Separate Ways with the same somber-plaintive, yet soaring emotional intensity of Steve Perry. As transmitting feelings go, it's his strongest, most gripping vocal performance with Journey and that includes all their many ballads. It's like no one can do Go Your Own Way like Lindsey Buckingham either.

I've already singled out both Steve Perry and Lindsey Buckingham on posts here over the past few years.  Both are untouchable, IMO.  As for Eva Under Fire, it seems to me if they were really trying to showcase "Separate Ways" they would have put it on their new album.  I think that song is just one of their crowd favorites, though. 

Their album is called "Love, Drugs & Misery."  It's a play on words for "sex, drugs and rock 'n roll."  It's an attempt to present the viewpoint of the children who have had to take care of parents who may have taken the sex, drugs and rock 'n roll too far.  But it's using the medium of rock music to try to make the point.  Here is a video from the lead singer, which actually I just found moments ago. 

https://youtu.be/o7NeH5nXE7E








Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 18, 2023, 07:50:14 AM
From Minneapolis, 2000. Singer is an acqaintance, married to an old friend of mine.

Performance art.

https://youtu.be/SElfdtU92w0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 18, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
Pleasantly New Wave'ish.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on January 18, 2023, 10:42:06 AM
I liked  that!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 18, 2023, 12:13:59 PM
Pretty cool.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 19, 2023, 05:51:34 AM
https://youtu.be/0QS7xM2OFIw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 19, 2023, 02:17:31 PM
Listening to a great Australian soul singer who passed away yesterday.
RIP Renée Geyer


https://youtu.be/6OjoP_VaatI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 19, 2023, 03:12:33 PM
And to CSNY becsuse David Crosby died today

RIP David Crosby

https://youtu.be/mup1xIAwyKo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Didn't we have that song only recently here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzdXFLui6rI&t=164s

Featuring two Yanks who served with you know who.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2023, 08:17:13 PM
Classy Iggy ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmNhs5pWxH8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSMwvywH_OM

Let's not obsess about the pitch perfection of the chorus.  8)

This is from a few years ago, also great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPtmpc0hUU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2023, 03:15:08 PM
Stellar, yet natural performance (I've never seen before) and even in street clothes breaking a sweat without any lavish choreography Frau Nightingale had more sex appeal in her finger tips than today's stylized dance act females ever summon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiYjQr22meY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 22, 2023, 11:15:54 AM
https://youtu.be/FJIuzl1jx7w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 22, 2023, 11:43:12 AM
Ah, the guys with the child porn album cover and the gentle soul drummer!  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 23, 2023, 10:52:47 PM
Faithfull does Dylan. This is new to me, friend posted it on FB today. It's from a French movie released in English as The Girl On A Motorcycle (1968) costarring Alain Delon and Marianne. Looks as weird as you would expect a 1968 French movie to be. According to Wikipedia, it was the first film to get an X rating in the US.

https://youtu.be/Lp19hLAuOVE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 24, 2023, 02:54:31 AM
The super deluxe 8 cd box set of Thin Lizzy - Live And Dangerous arrived yesterday.

It's a blast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8mJd0kAf0Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2023, 06:31:34 AM
I was already worried you might have missed it, Lizzy boy!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 24, 2023, 12:21:13 PM
Gold is up again but everyone here knows this forum is as good as gold. Right guys?  :-*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_EmTxX9208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWhOd0ENVS8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2023, 01:19:30 PM
That brunette in the Elvis Presley video looks like Yvonne Craig who played Batgirl and the Orion slave girl in a Star Trek episode.  After seeing that Elvis movie years ago, I'm just now noticing.  Later in life, he regretted making those meaningless movies, but they definitely had more than their share of pretty girls.  However, I've learned something today, and I'm a little surprised at it, too.  I'm still not completely sure that's Yvonne Craig, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 24, 2023, 01:45:06 PM
Rob Lamothe with his son Zander on drums. Featuring dUg Pinnick.
Love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xekHwAgtTY8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 24, 2023, 02:04:54 PM
That brunette in the Elvis Presley video looks like Yvonne Craig who played Batgirl and the Orion slave girl in a Star Trek episode.  After seeing that Elvis movie years ago, I'm just now noticing.  Later in life, he regretted making those meaningless movies, but they definitely had more than their share of pretty girls.  However, I've learned something today, and I'm a little surprised at it, too.  I'm still not completely sure that's Yvonne Craig, though.

It is. There's something called the internet movie database with all kinds of interesting info. Check it out.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057227/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on January 24, 2023, 02:12:43 PM
Yvonne starred alongside Elvis in "It Happened at the World's Fair" in 1963, and then in "Kissin' Cousins" in 1964.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2023, 02:30:32 PM
Thanks, everybody.  It's a little surprising because I thought I was better informed about Yvonne Craig than this. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2023, 03:40:40 PM
No one can write a love song to a city like Herr Osterberg can. And it's not Detroit this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUQQWvBSn0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on January 24, 2023, 09:26:08 PM


https://youtu.be/hDWC3_3ADYY


I like the heavy arrangement, but even if I was lukewarm on that, the fact that she sings that last "won't desert you" in perfect pitch is enough to make me love this version!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 25, 2023, 12:01:10 AM
I like the heavy arrangement, but even if I was lukewarm on that, the fact that she sings that last "won't desert you" in perfect pitch is enough to make me love this version!

I'm not sure if there actually is a female equivalent of Steve Perry.  But this version of the song is really good.  I agree.  But I like Eva Under Fire's original songs, too. or maybe even more.  In the case of "Separate Ways," it sounds like promoting that song was fan-generated.  Like I said in an earlier post, it seems to be a fan favorite at the band's concerts.  Somehow Cover Nation got involved, and that's why there is now a video of the song on You Tube.  Cover Nation tries to promote bands that may not be receiving the attention they deserve, and I think EUF falls into that category. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2023, 07:50:08 AM
They play and sing it fine, but for such an iconic song they seem to add little to it. Or alter an approach. In Journey's canon that already is and always was the heaviest song - I remember listening to Frontiers in 1983 for the first time and being gobsmacked by the sheer heaviness of it, this wasn't "Anyway You Want It"- or "Don't Stop Believin'"-Journey anymore (both cracker songs, make no mistake), but something decidedly angstier, darker and more enraged. Back then I thought, Judas Priest would have been happy to have written and played that song, it was so damn intense. (It could have been a song for Queensryche too who shared a similar sense of dramatics with Priest.)

So these guys & the one girl have metalled up a song that already was as close to heavy metal as Journey ever got. Let's just say they do the song justice - you have to be brave to even attempt to cover that number. It's a testament to how good an AOR band Journey were.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on January 26, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
I once went to see a double bill of Journey and Def Leppard at Jones Beach (a beautiful outdoor 15,000 seat ampitheater not far from NYC).
This was 2006 I believe.  Journey played first, and they started while a large portion of the crowd - including us - were still snaking through the entry lines in the parking lot.
They played "Separate Ways" as the SECOND SONG while the place was still half empty.
There was a loud audible collective groan through the crowd outside the arena when the keyboard intro started. 

What were they thinking??  They must have known there were a decent number of Def Leppard fans for whom that song would be the absolute highlight of the Journey set.
It should have been the climax of the set.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2023, 11:01:55 AM
They play and sing it fine, but for such an iconic song they seem to add little to it. Or alter an approach. In Journey's canon that already is and always was the heaviest song - I remember listening to Frontiers in 1983 for the first time and being gobsmacked by the sheer heaviness of it, this wasn't "Anyway You Want It"- or "Don't Stop Believin'"-Journey anymore (both cracker songs, make no mistake), but something decidedly angstier, darker and more enraged. Back then I thought, Judas Priest would have been happy to have written and played that song, it was so damn intense. (It could have been a song for Queensryche too who shared a similar sense of dramatics with Priest.)

So these guys & the one girl have metalled up a song that already was as close to heavy metal as Journey ever got. Let's just say they do the song justice - you have to be brave to even attempt to cover that number. It's a testament to how good an AOR band Journey were.

But Steve Perry is one of the best singers in the world.  Anyone trying to cover one of his songs is in for quite a job.  Besides that, as I've already noted, Eva Under Fire, the best I can tell, never meant for "Separate Ways" to be something they expected people to focus on.  It appears to have just been just a cover song used as a filler at some of their gigs.  At one point, though, a fan in the audience recorded it as a bootleg.  It circulated, gained popularity, etc.  Finally, Cover Nation got involved with the song and put it on their channel.   I don't even think Eva Under Fire was planning to do a video of it, although that's conjecture on my part.  For the most part, however EUF only does a few covers.  Whether good or bad, this is a band mostly doing originals.  Also, many of their songs come out sounding hard rock/metal.  That's just the natural direction they've moved toward.  Not all of their songs are that way, though. 

These are the only two other covers that Eva has done.  To be honest, I don't much like either one of these.  I think she does best with her own songs.  Somehow she must have got pushed into doing "With Or Without You."  Because she says in an interview she has never been interested in listening to U2 very much.

https://youtu.be/uVJcvtHksnY
https://youtu.be/iA4UbALfEOg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2023, 01:56:22 PM
I actually like their more individual take on U2 better! Of course the bassist overplays, we all know that to play WOWY, you don't need to change notes on the bass at all, just play/throb D all the time - it works with the full D/A/B/G chord sequence!  ;D Or in Eva Under Fire's case D# all the time because they moved the song up a half-note.

Needless to say Herr Adam Clayton - never the most imaginative bassist, this post wouldn't be complete without me mentioning this in passing - made the same mistake and also slavishly followed the chord changes in the original recording, tsk, tsk, tsk! Now if Ian Hill of Judas Priest had been U2's bassist, he wouldn't have bothered to ever leave the D (or D#) once.  8)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZDQ3MDg1ZjctMTJkNC00ZGJlLWE2YmItNGUwZjRhZThkMTMxXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg)

Ia(i)n('t) leavin' that note Hill
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2023, 02:09:22 PM
I actually like their more individual take on U2 better! Of course the bassist overplays, we all know that to play WOWY, you don't need to change notes on the bass at all, just play D all the time - it works with the full D/A/B/G chord sequence!  ;D Or in Eva Under Fire's case D# all the time because they move the song up a half-note.

Needless to say Herr Adam Clayton - never the most imaginative bassist, this post wouldn't be complete without me mentioning this in passing - made the same mistake and also slavishly followed the chord changes in the original recording, tsk, tsk, tsk. Now if Ian Hill of Judas Priest had been U2's bassist, he wouldn't have bothered to ever leave the D once.  8)

Years ago in a small Dublin music store, I was trying out some basses.  While I was playing one of them, the owner mentioned that Adam Clayton had tried it out the week before.  I surmised that his intention was to get me even more interested in the bass since Clayton had touched it.  But it made me actually less interested.  I've always thought U2 was overrated even when they were just starting. 

Of course I've mentioned some of these things in older posts and don't want to repeat myself.  I've always been baffled by U2.  Why the public got so excited by them, I just don't know.  My attempts to like them have all been in vain.  I remember reading a post by a British girl explaining to someone that some people just don't get Hendirx.  In my case, I obviously don't get U2.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2023, 03:57:59 PM
You're just jealous!!!

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l419igKimb1qbqb1do1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2023, 04:55:33 PM
I may be jealous.  But that doesn't take away from the fact that I've never liked U2's music, despite making an honest effort to do so.  I also might add that Adam Clayton isn't U2's only problem.  The vocals and guitar playing are just not very inspirational to me.  I don't know whose idea it was to put the U2 song on EUF's album, but it would not have been one of my choices.  Yes, they do a better job on the song, but something else would have been preferable. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
Noaomi was always my favorite U2 member. And she can't be blamed for any of the band's music. Plus very good aim when needed. Staff discipline is key.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2023, 08:14:21 PM
Noaomi was always my favorite U2 member. And she can't be blamed for any of the band's music. Plus very good aim when needed. Staff discipline is key.

I don't know the details, but it sounds like there was an incident in which Naomi thought it necessary to throw something to make a point.  For what it's worth, Naomi was my favorite U2 member, too. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2023, 02:14:22 PM
That Metal outfit which ousted those pansies from Metallica a while back is at it again ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoBAD-TRxYA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 01, 2023, 03:12:48 PM
Back when Alice and the boys were still unsettling and dangerous. And Vince obviously not a teetotaler yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZcJojTucg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gha79UZVRk0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on February 03, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Jimmy Shand!

https://youtu.be/-14L7wDwuGc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2023, 02:17:47 PM
I'm generally not a Bonamassa fan boy, but this here is excellent. And that bassist is no slouch, really melodic and inventive. Love Joe's self-deprecating comment at the beginning: "(We're gonna) exercise that old skill set of overplaying over blues rock changes!"  ;D How true, but still good fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVqsDkyxohE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 07, 2023, 02:24:53 PM
That's Eric Czar.
Amazing player.
When I saw Bonamassa live he was forced to play repetetive blues schedules for 15 minutes per song. Because Bonamassa was having a wankfest at each bloody song... :puke:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2023, 02:28:35 PM
Well not here, he's everything intelligent, creative bass playing in a trio format should be.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 10, 2023, 04:13:48 AM
"Killing Me Softly With His Song" was originally written as a folk song.  I had no idea.  That song has quite a history behind it.  Lori Lieberman was inspired by a Don McClean song and started writing on a napkin what would become the lyrics.  I'm sure there are people who know about all this, but I definitely did not know anything about the song's origin and development.  You could spend days listening to all the cover versions.  Lori Lieberman said the first time she heard Roberta Flack sing it she was driving and had to pull over to the side of the road.  She was stunned by Roberta's brilliance. 

https://youtu.be/ua4n_sTa9f4

https://youtu.be/k4A5XuMz_Tw

https://youtu.be/u0kOdVs1AkY



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 11, 2023, 07:22:31 AM
That song does take me back … TASOK* 1975 …

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q_8_8cz_2js/ThKavlnLMvI/AAAAAAAAAlA/TcQUfueXUyE/s640/Kin+TASOK%252711+Walkway+%2528SS01%2529.jpg)

My first kiss with someone I was not related to … Kendall Siefker from Nebraska … I gave up my formidable Airfix WW2 collection a day later, yet never blamed her.  :mrgreen:

Did I ever tell you guys what a hopeless romantic I am? I always feel that goes coarsely unnoticed here.

*The American School of Kinshasa
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 11, 2023, 02:53:22 PM
That song is a very emotional song.  I'm not surprised if someone might associate it with romance in real life.  In listening to some of the different versions of it, it becomes obvious a number of singers sing the lyrics in a detached way.  Lori Lieberman herself has made this observation.  Obviously, that's not the way to do it.  However, Lori also criticizes her own vocals as being too robotic.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 11, 2023, 03:23:16 PM
Roberta sang it - for lack of a better word - soulfully and like only a black woman could. The Fugees/Lauryn Hill version wasn't bad at all (I was happy they resurrected the great song at the time), but could not match Roberta's depth.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 11, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Roberta sang it - for lack of a better word - soulfully and like only a black woman could. The Fugees/Lauryn Hill version wasn't bad at all (I was happy they resurrected the great song at the time), but could not match Roberta's depth.

Based on what Lori Lieberman said about Roberta, I think she would agree with you.  I've spent some time listening to other videos of the song.  Some are noteworthy.  But when Roberta recorded it, it seems she probably made it the definitive version.  She was on a plane the first time she heard the song and immediately made the decision to record it as soon as possible. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 11, 2023, 11:18:59 PM
Hard to believe TMBG's Flood was released 33 years ago.

https://youtu.be/vn_or9gEB6g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 12, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
Only knew the band name, never heard anything from them - a great omission as I have now learned. Bit like an American Tears for Fears, another duo.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2023, 11:15:39 PM
I became a fan when I heard She's An Angel and Don't Let's Start on the radio (from their 1986 debut album).

Flood had a couple of other radio hits, Particle Man and their rockin' cover of the 1950s pop tune Istanbul Not Constantinople. They commissioned cartoon videos for both.

https://youtu.be/LsAiCs66l40

https://youtu.be/0XlO39kCQ-8

Their name is taken from an overlooked, bizarre movie by the same name. George C. Scott plays a judge who is put in a mental hospital when loses his mind and is convinced he's Sherlock Holmes. Joanne Woodward plays his psychiatrist who eventually comes to believe she's his Dr. Watson. I never met anyone else who saw it when it first came out. The whole movie is now on YT.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 14, 2023, 07:31:24 PM
UK heavy rock stalwarts Uriah Heep have new album out (Chaos & Colour) and, yes, they sure know how to sound like themselves! Who said that Hammond is too loud?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGZeM9yLgt0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kWDFaoYMkA



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 14, 2023, 09:06:04 PM
https://youtu.be/_fHxFS9PiYM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2023, 06:35:09 AM
Why isn't he playing guitar? I thought he always did?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 15, 2023, 07:08:15 AM
Why isn't he playing guitar? I thought he always did?

He does, it's not a live performance.

He only plays his ES-125DC. He says he can't play any other guitar.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 15, 2023, 08:34:36 AM
He does, it's not a live performance.

He only plays his ES-125DC. He says he can't play any other guitar.

You might say that he's done OK for a guy who can only play one guitar!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2023, 09:33:58 AM
His image was so intertwined with his guitar, I thought it unfathomable that someone would take it a good idea to put him into a vid playing music without one. Looks weird.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2023, 10:07:10 AM
One thing leads to another: Jeff Beck dies, I buy one of his albums I haven't owned yet (Flash), hear the singer on a couple of tracks (Jimmy Hall) and - voilà - end up with a couple of Wet Willie albums, a band I had only heard of before via their name and had vaguely classified as Southern Rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRa7_oD7VY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wosle4sayE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfU3ZPiuLc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUeXW7LeAig

Not so much Lynyrd Skynyrd as a more Southern version of early to mid period J. Geils Band, but a worthy addition to my still burgeoning CD racks!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 15, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
Charlie was and is a-Dore-able.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGKrgJZhpzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CClEymQDLEA

Pilot of the Airwaves is at 51:50 if you want to check.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2023, 06:03:29 PM
A young Uli wiff ze Scorps at his peak, pretty friggin' amazing, our little Hendrix devotee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIK3hREz7dI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 21, 2023, 07:43:50 AM
A young Uli wiff ze Scorps at his peak, pretty friggin' amazing, our little Hendrix devotee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIK3hREz7dI

Awesome. Love that lineup.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2023, 09:36:27 AM
He was that good - as a German you always had a bit of a chip on your shoulder because we didn't really have guitar heroes, but Uli Roth was someone you could justly be proud of. Around that time, I even rated him more highly than Michael Schenker, who good as he was didn't quite have the improvisational abandon (to be fair: Michael was his own man and didn't have "HENDRIX!" written all over him like Uli did!).

I saw the Scorps later on the Love Drive Tour again on one of the few legs of that tour where Michael actually showed up and was not AWOL  :mrgreen:; at that time their live set was still populated by Uli Roth-era songs and Michael's discomfort playing that stuff was palpable. Sure enough, he didn't even finish the tour.  :mrgreen:

Also one of the few documented performances with Rudy Lenners on drums, their Belgian drummer which they had to let go because he had a heart defect that would have kept him from touring as hard as the Scorpions always did. Not a technical drummer like his predecessor Jürgen Rosenthal (who joined German Progsters Eloy after his military service forced him out of the Scorpions and found fame and fortune there), his style always reminded me a bit of Mick Tucker of Sweet.

Speaking of ... When the Sorpions were almost broke in 1975, the future of the band endangered, they resorted to recording two Sweet tracks (Fox On The Run and Action) under the alias moniker The Hunters, so they could reap 50% of the royalties via the (inane) German lyrics. They were also the opening act for Sweet around that time (and for Kiss' first German gigs in 1976 as well) - getting along well with both bands. Manfred Mann's Earth Band was another international act they opened for - MMEB were hugely popular in Germany back then -, with Uli even getting an offer from Manfred Mann to join his band - he did not do "another Michael" though and declined although flattered.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QuSlRopNR4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baXUge30beg

It's a piece of their history they tried to keep valiantly under the lid when they finally made it!  :mrgreen: The Hunters' one and only single never saw a - digital or other - re-release in almost 50 years.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on February 21, 2023, 03:20:44 PM
Uli is great as long as he does'nt sing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2023, 07:01:24 PM
Not that Hendrix was a good singer, but perhaps still a notch or two above Uli, true.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on February 22, 2023, 12:57:52 AM
Hendrix rarely makes me cringe so I'd say a couple of notches better yes. On the subject Bruce Springsteen (another thread) I think he surely does'nt have the best singing voice (far better than Dylan though) but he is skillful at vocal expressions.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2023, 01:27:37 AM
I think Springsteen's voice is perfectly ok for his own music. When he does other people's material - as he did with his current soul tribute album - the inherent limits become glaring. Sam Cooke he ain't.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on February 22, 2023, 02:01:02 AM
Indeed, as long as he sculpts his songs to suit his own voice he's fine.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2023, 03:02:48 AM
Springsteen is not a varied singer nor is his music really varied (the last song he surprised me with was Philadelphia, that's a while back, 30 years to be exact) - with him it's all about the larger-than-life images he paints of little people with his lyrics. Of course he's an American icon. Live, his messianic shtick gets to me after a while.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2023, 06:45:02 AM
Springsteen is not a varied singer nor is his music really varied (the last song he surprised me with was Philadelphia, that's a while back, 30 years to be exact) - with him it's all about the larger-than-life images he paints of little people with his lyrics. Of course he's an American icon. Live, his messianic shtick gets to me after a while.

Springsteen may be an American icon, but I don't know why.  He doesn't represent America at all as far as I'm concerned.  He may be one of the most overrated singers of all time.  As I've said before, I simply do not get his appeal, period. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2023, 07:33:34 AM
There's more than one America that can be represented. Springsteen represents ideals, a mythological America if you like. From a European viewpoint that vision of hope his brand of singer-songwriter-rock with a deep folk foundation always exudes is already very American, a cliche no doubt, but a very vibrant one. He's the Robert Redford of rock. Now you might like Robert Redford or not, but you can't say he's un-American.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2023, 07:45:25 AM
There's more than one America that can be represented. Springsteen represents ideals, a mythological America if you like.  From a European viewpoint that vision of hope his brand of singer-songwriter-rock with a deep folk foundation always exudes is already very American, a cliche no doubt, but a very vibrant one. He's the Robert Redford of rock. Now you might like Robert Redford or not, but you can't say he's un-American.

Springsteen isn't un-American.  But like you stated, whatever he is doing is pushing something mythological.  As an American, I can't take his music or his lyrics seriously.  Because to me what he is singing about isn't the real America.  To me personally, I also find his music meaningless and boring.  There are certainly others worse, but they usually don't get the attention Springsteen does.  If I tried to find someone doing what Springsteen does, but doing it far better, I would probably choose Billy Joel. 

https://youtu.be/nzmAlG2z-uE

https://youtu.be/SuFScoO4tb0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2023, 11:54:41 AM
Billy Joel is great too - he wrote a major part of the contemporary American Songbook. I've always dug his songs. He's the American Elton John minus the Don't Go Breaking My Heart/Nikita cringe.

Besides, he has two ex-Rainbow musicians in his current band (David Rosenthal and Chuck Burgi - from the last Rainbow line-up in the 80ies)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni256jol5KI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ15B2FqVqg
(I'm sooo glad Rainbow never made a corny video at all ...)

and is reportedly always rather inquisitive about their time with Blackmore, so how could I possibly knock the guy? All rivers of dreams end somewhere over the rainbow.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 22, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen fans tend to be different, IMO.  The Billy Joel fans, for the most part just seem to be interested in the music.  The Springsteen fans remind me more of Deadheads.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.  One of the prettiest and nicest girls I ever met was a devout Deadhead.  I mentioned this in an old thread under a different context, 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2023, 06:29:36 AM
Billy seems a lot more urban to me, the disenchanted office worker type while Bruce pretends to be from the factory floor. There is also a jazzy, sophisticated piano ingredient to Joel's music that is totally lacking with the Boss. Springsteen's chords tend to be meat and potatoes (I'm not knocking him, he's written great songs with the set of colors available to him, I could kill for "I'm On Fire", but on Joel hits you sometimes hear a chord you don't remember ever having heard before). Of ourse it's all explained by Joel being a trained pianist while Springsteen is essentially a folk guitar strummer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 23, 2023, 07:04:07 AM
Both artists claim to have been heavily influenced by the Beatles, but I do hear a folk background in Springsteen's music, which you mentioned, that is lacking with Billy Joel. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2023, 08:14:01 AM
https://youtu.be/3UAUCh5ocIg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2023, 09:20:24 AM
Alas!, Dave doesn't like Billy Joel either with his "garage & vintage"-elitist rock journo musical taste.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2023, 09:59:04 AM
Alas!, Dave doesn't like Billy Joel either with his "garage & vintage"-elitist rock journo musical taste.

 :popcorn:

It's just a funny parody, nothing more. Weird Al probably wouldn't really hate on Billy Joel.

Billy's okay by me. His music is unpretentious, unlike Bruce.

BTW, Weird: The Al Yankovic Story is streaming free on Roku. It's really a series of sketches. I thought it was hilarious. Daniel Radcliffe stars as Al, and Al himself plays a slimy record label owner.
https://therokuchannel.roku.com/lp/weird
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2023, 10:31:37 AM
I get that, there is a faux grassroots-pretentiousness to Bruce's image. But did John Steinbeck ever work in a field?

That Yankovic spoof is hilarious btw!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 23, 2023, 01:06:45 PM
https://youtu.be/hOHsH8wkJjs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2023, 06:10:27 PM
^^^

Well, there you have it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 23, 2023, 10:10:18 PM
Some artists, believe it or not, haven't had a sense of humor about Weird Al's parodies and have refused him permission.  I don't know the complete list, but I do remember U2, Prince, Paul McCartney, and Led Zeppelin are on there.  McCartney might have agreed, but rejected the use of the words "chicken pot pie" in the parody.  I'm sure there is complete info about all these things somewhere. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2023, 10:33:21 PM
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/75056/9-musicians-who-refused-let-weird-al-yankovic-parody-their-songs

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 24, 2023, 12:05:49 AM
I hadn't heard about some of that, like the part about Eminem, etc.  I try to see both sides of the issue, although sometimes it's hard.  For instance, I didn't like Weird Al's cover of a George Harrison song at the most recent tribute concert.  But I hardly ever like any of those George Harrison tribute concerts.  With a few exceptions, Dhani Harrison himself seems to be the only person who can really do justice to his father's songs. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2023, 07:06:15 AM
Pity, really. Zeppelin's material in all its pious earnestness is unwittingly just bespoke for satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJBGLP7Akk

But to give credit to Zep (which I rarely do): The existence of this version shows that they did not always prohibit satire. Although in this case they might have regretted it given Harris' later disgracement.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 24, 2023, 08:23:09 AM
My favorite Weird Al / Eminem "interaction" is this "interview":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOya9-lwQk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2023, 04:10:05 AM
Several posts have already been made about Bruce Springsteen on this thread.  Rather than make an entire thread about him, I'm just going to post this video on this thread.  After watching this, it got me thinking that my comments were too off-the-cuff and also just too harsh for almost no reason.  If I were going to say something now about Springsteen, it would be something similar to this video.  Whoever this guy is, he is more articulate than I am, and also probably has more of an overall grasp of the music world itself.  But the point is what he says about Bruce Springsteen makes a lot of sense to me.  He also made me realize that I also tend to prefer bands over solo artists.  Actually, I already realized that, but now even more so. 

https://youtu.be/I2DMJ7l2Wno
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2023, 07:10:40 AM
George would have turned 80 today.

https://youtu.be/6ZwjdGSqO0k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2023, 08:50:49 AM
A moment with Dave Edmunds, George Harrison and Carl Perkins.  I bought the DVD this was on several months ago before they make buying DVDs a criminal offense. 

https://youtu.be/b1VD2Lcx5xA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 25, 2023, 06:50:02 PM
A song which was supposed to be on George's "Somewhere in England" album but was rejected by the record company.

https://youtu.be/fyz4qp75MiI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 25, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
I miss George.  One of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-i1ICiz-3o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 26, 2023, 12:22:03 PM
Fats would have turned 95 today.

https://youtu.be/Fy5WM1xYbGo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2023, 08:37:51 PM
Several posts have already been made about Bruce Springsteen on this thread.  Rather than make an entire thread about him, I'm just going to post this video on this thread.  After watching this, it got me thinking that my comments were too off-the-cuff and also just too harsh for almost no reason.  If I were going to say something now about Springsteen, it would be something similar to this video.  Whoever this guy is, he is more articulate than I am, and also probably has more of an overall grasp of the music world itself.  But the point is what he says about Bruce Springsteen makes a lot of sense to me.  He also made me realize that I also tend to prefer bands over solo artists.  Actually, I already realized that, but now even more so. 

https://youtu.be/I2DMJ7l2Wno


It would be an overstatement for me to say that I'm a great fan of David Spuria aka The Real Music Observer, his videos on bands tend to be a mix of the obvious and some hearsay, with very little depth and copious amounts of gushing cringe.

Springsteen is too cerebral for him? That's like saying that AC/DC plays too many chords. Neither Springsteen's lyrics nor his music are remotely cerebral - if they were, the Boss' music wouldn't touch so many people worldwide. Nor is Springsteen's music really preachy - he's a chronicler of the little (wo)man who falls down only to get up again. And politically, he's probably somewhere where Franklin Delano Roosevelt was.

Finally, if Herr Spuria didn't realize that I'm On Fire was an homage to Elvis Presley and his singing style, albeit through the lens of Bruce Springsteen, I can't help him, maybe that wasn't explicitly mentioned in one of his Styx lyric sheets? If you're gonna call yourself "The Real Music Observer", you should offer some insight, but this was ouch and waffling all the way.

Springsteen is not a varied, nuanced singer - he either mumbles or delivers his stadium roar. His songwriting is not really varied either - introspective ballads where he talks over the music or stadium chorus hooks. His chord structures are plain. For a man playing guitar for close to 60 years, he's a rudimentary strummer, nothing more. The E-Street Band live is often just a wall of sound, as unfunky as Nickelback and static + heavy-handed in its musical approach as regards its arrangements (as well as insulated against inspiration from any other form of music unless its traditional/vintage). Too many people playing the same stuff unimaginatively (nowhere on earth are the talents of two good guitarists - Lofgren and Little Steven - more wasted than in the E-Street band, Bruce must pay them well). What they need is an arranger to sort their stuff out (that is why the Manfred Mann's Earth Band covers worked so well because they actually arranged the musical melee for the first time).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjJjzFwSr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNYTkebVDrc

But too cerebral? What is Herr Spuria gonna say about Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention and Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull then?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 26, 2023, 09:35:56 PM
I didn't even know the guy's name.  I had seen some of his videos before.  I avoid them much of the time.  One big reason is that when he recommends new bands, I almost always don't like them.  After a while, it became obvious that we had very different tastes in music.  However, I have liked a few things about his videos.  He seems to have somewhat of a sense of justice.  For instance, he spoke up clearly about how he thought Lindsey Buckingham had been mistreated.  Another thing is Spuria seems to be the kind of person who has kept up with a lot of details in the music world.  I tend to avoid that and tend to mostly look at the big picture.  But sometimes he'll have some pertinent info that I can use. 

I also immediately noticed that the word "cerebral" wasn't really the right word to use.  I think he probably has a basic idea what the word means, but maybe not.  I'm not sure what the word should have been exactly, but it definitely shouldn't have been cerebral.  I realized from the context that what he was trying to say is he didn't like songs to be carefully laid out, almost clinical and without much emotion, setting forth a carefully planned agenda on how people should think and act.  I'm reminded of the song "Sunshine" by Jonathan Edwards in which he sings "he can't even run his own life; I'll be damned if he'll run mine."  Most of us would prefer, of course, that we be allowed to run our own lives.  Maybe Spuria thinks Springsteen's lyrics can get a little intrusive.  I haven't listened to Bruce Springsteen enough to say one way or another. 

 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2023, 12:48:33 AM
Springsteen isn't unemotional either - on the contrary, he writes songs and performs like Steven Spielberg directs movies: from a more somber European viewpoint it's always a bit too much, too grand the emotions, too much the passion. But millions of people love him for just that. I was at a gig where a female fan handed him her infant which cannot have been more than a few months - if that - old. I don't know what he was supposed to do with it, he's Catholic like me, perhaps wash away the original sin? To his credit, he took the baby like the experienced grandfather he was (getting on his knees of course to do so) and handed it back to her ever so carefully after planting a kiss on its head. I mean just imagine, what might Ozzy have done?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 27, 2023, 02:58:12 AM
Springsteen isn't unemotional either - on the contrary, he writes songs and performs like Steven Spielberg directs movies: from a more somber European viewpoint it's always a bit too much, too grand the emotions, too much the passion. But millions of people love him for just that. I was at a gig where a female fan handed him her infant which cannot have been more than a few months - if that - old. I don't know what he was supposed to do with it, he's Catholic like me, perhaps wash away the original sin? To his credit, he took the baby like the experienced grandfather he was (getting on his knees of course to do so) and handed it back to her ever so carefully after planting a kiss on its head. I mean just imagine, what might Ozzy have done?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I don't know, of course, what Ozzy would have done.  I do know that I've gotten way more out of Ozzy's music.  This is really mostly just about people's taste in music.  Whatever emotion Springsteen may be trying to convey, it just doesn't register with me.  But that really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.  Liking or disliking music has a lot to do with subjectivity itself.  When I was younger, I probably had a degree of pride in my taste in music.  If it ever existed, it's all gone now.  In fact, when I see artists such as Springsteen and U2 that millions like, but I don't, I try to step back the best I can and question myself a little.  I haven't spent the time, though, with Springsteen the way I have with U2.  But I am no closer now than I was at the first to understanding why they are so appealing to so many people.  Springsteen is even harder to analyze because he is from my own country.  I get puzzled at why I'm not feeling what so many others of my countrymen are feeling.  I can see it's real, but I still don't get it.  Some might say it's because I'm so far away from that area.  But Billy Joel is just as far away and I easily relate to him. 

This situation with Springsteen goes way back to when I lived in New Orleans.  A woman there who was a native that I was around a lot was always raving about Bruce Springsteen in that intriguing New Orleans "Yat" accent. She was a big, big fan.  But I hardly knew what to say to her.  I tried the best I could to be polite.  I was polite and puzzled.     

This woman in New Orleans was also a tremendous Joan Armatrading fan.  This is probably of no great importance, but here is Armatrading as a guest background vocalist on a Queen song.  The second video is, of course, Joan by herself.  This song was one of the songs my friend was talking about so much the best I remember.

https://youtu.be/mFncGaIcpnw

https://youtu.be/UyhznTkgAaw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2023, 08:18:44 AM
Joan Armatrading is great. But her music is music for a small hall (nothing wrong with that). Springsteen is CinemaScope for stadiums. That determines much of his music. That forced reduction to grandeur that projects into even the last corner.

I hate stadium gigs, no matter who the band is. Avoid them like the plague. And in general, whenever a band reaches stadium size audience capacity, their music invariably suffers.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2023, 08:32:57 AM
What if ZZ Top wrote Seek And Destroy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc-Jb4t5xQc

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on February 28, 2023, 08:50:43 AM
I enjoy some of those "What if X wrote Y" covers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyVK6oFBVas
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2023, 09:19:53 AM
What if ZZ Top wrote Seek And Destroy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc-Jb4t5xQc

Best ZZ Top song in a long time, those guys have the ZZ Top mannerisms down pat, lovely!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2023, 09:21:50 AM
I enjoy some of those "What if X wrote Y" covers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyVK6oFBVas

The guy is hilarious, lovely too!

But I think I'll wait a couple of more decades before I incorporate a Slayer album into my CD collection ... It strains my - perhaps archaic and uncool - concept of what I call "music".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2023, 10:00:16 AM
I don't think that guy really captures the Slayer vibe as good as the guy who did that ZZTop/Metallica mash-up.

Here's another one from him (Denis Pauna)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrE0LVaboWc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 28, 2023, 10:35:18 AM
I don't think that guy really captures the Slayer vibe as good as the guy who did that ZZTop/Metallica mash-up.

Here's another one from Denis Pauna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrE0LVaboWc

I couldn't stand to listen to the Slayer parody...but they're not my speed anyway.  THIS one, I really like.  They nailed that dark, sinister approach.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 01, 2023, 02:11:55 PM
No accounting for taste... I would rather listen to a thousand Slayer parodies than a single minute of anything by (or imitating) the Doors ... your mileage may vary :D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 01, 2023, 05:27:04 PM
No accounting for taste... I would rather listen to a thousand Slayer parodies than a single minute of anything by (or imitating) the Doors ... your mileage may vary :D

Not a Slayer fan, but Jim Morrison's voice makes me nauseous. I'd rather listen to Yoko, if only for the humor value.

And while we're at it, how the hell did Janis Joplin become big? Neighborhood cats yowling sound better. She claimed to be a disciple of Bessie Smith, but Bessie could actually sing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2023, 07:41:57 PM
As could Janis, Dave, and you know it. Her voice was raw, sometimes demandingly so, but it could transport emotion. And there was something vulnerable about it. Plus not just the Blues component, but even some country influence - and if I may say so myself.

Jim Morrison was technically no great singer, some people say even tone-deaf, also a baritone (unusual for rock), but I have yet to hear someone sing Roadhouse Blues and bring across the same laconic acceptance of impending death. He was a great stylist. I used to hate/not understand The Doors, but I've come round.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 01, 2023, 08:08:26 PM
Not a Slayer fan, but Jim Morrison's voice makes me nauseous. I'd rather listen to Yoko, if only for the humor value.

And while we're at it, how the hell did Janis Joplin become big? Neighborhood cats yowling sound better. She claimed to be a disciple of Bessie Smith, but Bessie could actually sing.

I totally agree.  It would be hard to pick out two that get on my nerves that much. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 01, 2023, 10:32:15 PM
As could Janis, Dave, and you know it. Her voice was raw, sometimes demandingly so, but it could transport emotion. And there was something vulnerable about it. Plus not just the Blues component, but even some country influence - and if I may say so myself.

...

(https://i.imgur.com/S31QTOd.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 02, 2023, 12:20:35 AM
I don't like the Doors either. It's not so much Jim Morrison's voice that I hate, but it's the godawful organ that gets on my nerves.

And Janis was too much of a screamer for my liking.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 02, 2023, 04:11:20 AM
I don't like the Doors either. It's not so much Jim Morrison's voice that I hate, but it's the godawful organ that gets on my nerves.

And Janis was too much of a screamer for my liking.

The Doors were able to fit into their own time period.  Plus, their appeal goes beyond that for many.  Just the fact, though, that they didn't even have a regular bassist made them seem like an anomaly to me.  Some of their hit songs such as "Light My Fire" and a few others were pretty good.  But a number of filler songs on their albums weren't very remarkable, IMO.  Just a casual observation.  In general, I never spent much time listening to the Doors.  My main problem with them is I never much liked Jim Morrison's voice which to me sounds unpleasant and creepy. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 07:16:07 AM
If you like me dig Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, UK and Elton John, there is no such thing as an overplaying keyboarder, hence I like Ray Manzarek and his totally original sound and style as well.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZx5HbEHACM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 07:21:27 AM
I don't like the Doors either. It's not so much Jim Morrison's voice that I hate, but it's the godawful organ that gets on my nerves.

And Janis was too much of a screamer for my liking.

Yeah, Rob rather likes the revolutionary concept of two lead guitarists playing everything in synchronized harmony, preferably employing those really musically demanding thirds on two or three variations of Celtic melodies!

I'm not giving away names.  :-X Led Zeppelin is innocent for once.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 07:30:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/S31QTOd.jpg)

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I loved that series as a kid. My name is Friday - I carry a badge ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 02, 2023, 09:20:13 AM
Yeah, Rob rather likes the revolutionary concept of two lead guitarists playing everything in synchronized harmony, preferably employing those really musically demanding thirds on two or three variations of Celtic melodies!

I'm not giving away names.  :-X Led Zeppelin is innocent for once.

Haha, among others yes! 👍😂
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 02, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
Jim Morrison was technically no great singer, some people say even tone-deaf, also a baritone (unusual for rock), but I have yet to hear someone sing Roadhouse Blues and bring across the same laconic acceptance of impending death. He was a great stylist. I used to hate/not understand The Doors, but I've come round.

Beautifully put.  There was something dark and often sinister about his voice and his approach to life, and it came through in his music.  I always find it moving.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 02, 2023, 10:41:54 AM
Just found this - Steve Cropper and Tom Jones...and nothing but those two.  I have always found Jones' voice incredibly compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Jp5arqMbQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 02, 2023, 10:46:04 AM
Just found this - Steve Cropper and Tom Jones...and nothing but those two.  I have always found Jones' voice incredibly compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Jp5arqMbQ

I saw Tom Jones in person once.  That was many, many years ago.  I never got the chance to see many favorite artists, but Tom Jones was one of the rare ones. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 11:03:07 AM
Just found this - Steve Cropper and Tom Jones...and nothing but those two.  I have always found Jones' voice incredibly compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Jp5arqMbQ

That's approaching Jeff Beck territory, wow.

I've seen old Tom twice in concert, his Las Vegas years blurred his natural talent, the man is great. Rick Rubin to the rescue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfv4mlk8Vc8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 02, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
Both the song and the delivery are inspiring.  Thank you!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on March 02, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
  shockingly I have Discovered Miley Cyrus as a serious artist ! thats a sentence I never thought i'd type

  I love covers, my favorite type of music is a song I know, but with a twist

Miley does loads of covers and shes good at riding the sweet spot between devotion to the original and putting her spin on it.

her voice is like if Stevie Nicks was a hard rocker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuWcJUrP6Y]www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuWcJUrP6Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuWcJUrP6Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuWcJUrP6Y)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icUj-V1lvdE]www.youtube.com/watch?v=icUj-V1lvdE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icUj-V1lvdE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icUj-V1lvdE)

I find it very heartening that Steve Stevens is still being Steve f***ing Stevens, but I prefered Billy Idol when his face moved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9TrCN9S9zE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9TrCN9S9zE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmSS8fDmek]www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmSS8fDmek]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmSS8fDmek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmSS8fDmek)
making  james Hatfield look bad with his own song

theres like a million more, shes a cover version machine!


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 01:26:04 PM
She can sing, has a voice and at one point she must have also seen a Blondie album in her parents' vast record collection. Debbie wants her look back.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 02, 2023, 04:30:37 PM
Oh come on, anyone can play a little guitar, nothing to watch here. And then that old guy who joins them at 03:15 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNmz17gnMw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 02, 2023, 10:49:40 PM
She can sing, has a voice and at one point she must have also seen a Blondie album in her parents' vast record collection. Debbie wants her look back.

You don't say...

https://youtu.be/NbdRLyixJpc

Just to be clear, I haven't been listening to this lately.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 03, 2023, 05:20:02 AM
New single of Extreme. First release in 15 years.
Nuno has an unmistakable style of his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ_AOIbj8AA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2023, 08:12:20 AM
You don't say...

https://youtu.be/NbdRLyixJpc

Just to be clear, I haven't been listening to this lately.

Except that Miley sings it like a woman live, while Ms Harry - and if she doubletracked her girlie voice in the studio for the umpteenth time - sounded like a kiddie choir. Frau Cyrus has more of a rock voice than Debbie ever had. Debbie was pure pop with a slight punk sneer at times.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2023, 08:49:42 AM
New single of Extreme. First release in 15 years.
Nuno has an unmistakable style of his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ_AOIbj8AA

Never heard of these guys. I remember a wimpy 90ies ballad by a band with a similar name, but it can't have been them, thankfully. That guitarist looks a lot like the guy who plays with Rihanna, now her I know. And that singer, wasn't he part of the Van Halen entourage once, their stage manager perhaps?

It's all good, Rob  :-*, nice track.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 03, 2023, 11:04:23 AM
Miley Cyrus has a distinctive style to her singing.  You could pick it out from other female singers easily.  I like what she does, and she really sings hard - she belts it out! 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 03, 2023, 04:49:48 PM
New single of Extreme. First release in 15 years.
Nuno has an unmistakable style of his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ_AOIbj8AA

Ok track, but why do they have to do the generic tune down and where's the funk that made them stand out in the early 90's? Sounds just like any modern metal band, I'm sure they can be more inventive than this.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
Speaking of Slayer, this tickled me. Not saying that they're an old folks band...

(https://www.mylespaul.com/attachments/112301-jpg.674598/)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 04, 2023, 05:01:29 PM
Speaking of Slayer, this tickled me. Not saying that they're an old folks band...

(https://www.mylespaul.com/attachments/112301-jpg.674598/)

 :mrgreen:

The scary thing is while they might not be quiet that old, there are plenty of grandmas who were old enough at the time to see  (and flash) Slayer 35-40 years ago.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 05, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
I liked the Miley Cyrus cut so much I went into YouTube and found her performance of "These Boots are Made for Walkin".  I really dig it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30B0K1Qusfo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2023, 12:38:51 PM
Killer assertive version.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2023, 12:39:59 PM
Music by two Americans, but as usual no one here will give a flying flamingo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTAxPhxADo0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 05, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Probably not gonna play in the top 40....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
You guys are hopeless.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 05, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
All a matter of taste. I find Miley Cyrus' singing voice harsh and unpleasant as her speaking voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 05, 2023, 03:46:59 PM
Ricou Browning, underwater star of ‘Creature From the Black Lagoon,’ dead at 93 (https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/ricou-browning-underwater-star-creature-black-lagoon-dead-93/R5RHIVOQMVGK5N4MDOCNSMS3GM/)

A good reason to listen to Dave Edmunds. Not that I ever need to justify listening to Dave Edmunds.

https://youtu.be/e8V4HKU0Gy4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2023, 04:34:22 PM
Loved that movie when I first saw it in the 60ies on TV, but I felt sorry for the Creature, just like I felt sorry for the Frankenstein Monster and King Kong.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/03/03/obituaries/03Browning3/03Browning3-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)

Guillermo del Toro did a lovely tribute to the original film in 2017.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFYWazblaUA

Rest in peace, scaly one.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 05, 2023, 04:39:53 PM
All a matter of taste. I find Miley Cyrus' singing voice harsh and unpleasant as her speaking voice.

I know what you mean, she has a gritty edge. But it's not something mannered, it's how her voice apparently is. Women don't have to speak or sing like angels with me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on March 05, 2023, 05:12:04 PM
  I really did it!

 glad its not just me  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 06, 2023, 10:50:45 PM
https://youtu.be/fPPDehYZkoE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 07, 2023, 06:13:56 AM
That was a nice swinging cover of the somewhat more rambunctious Humble Pie original.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWqrP30YXQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2023, 07:37:49 AM
That was a nice swinging cover of the somewhat more rambunctious Humble Pie original.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWqrP30YXQ

That's not the original. It's an Ashford & Simpson composition, original was Nick Ashford's in 1966. Ray's cover was later that year.

https://youtu.be/yeD1cy7N4Bg

Chocolate Watch Band also covered it before Humble Pie.

https://youtu.be/7tJ-YfAo5oo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 07, 2023, 08:48:17 AM
I know, Dave, I was being mildly ironic as I sometimes attempt to be. If there is one thing that Humble Pie were not particularly strong in then it was writing their own material, especially once Frampton had left the fold. Their best stuff was always - highly originally approached - covers. The way they turned I Don't Need No Doctor into a rifforama is a case in point - that primal E-G-A riff (F-G#-A# in the Humble Pie vid, but it might be running too fast or they had tuned a half-step up) shows up in neither Ashford & Simpson's original nor the Ray Charles version. (But on first listen of the Chocolate Watch Band version, Marriott likely nicked it from them, the artfully dodging little thief!!!)

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/oliver-twistcharles-dickens/images/b/b7/Images.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140812135538)

I really liked Ashford & Simpson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfD4nYu6LAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOtRgXZakc4

Pity that throat cancer (what a mean disease for a singer) took him from her and us.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2023, 03:47:22 PM
Why Ringo can be brilliant, and I don't mean his humor, but his drumming:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JLqw8su5ng0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 13, 2023, 07:09:27 AM
Why Ringo can be brilliant, and I don't mean his humor, but his drumming:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JLqw8su5ng0

Love it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 13, 2023, 09:11:44 AM
He's one of Ian Paice's favorite drummers, no joke. Little Ian has admitted nicking this here off Ringo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=512UKHYD1gk

It's just Come Together speeded up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oolpPmuK2I8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 13, 2023, 10:28:23 PM
Why Ringo can be brilliant, and I don't mean his humor, but his drumming:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JLqw8su5ng0

That was great!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 14, 2023, 06:31:03 AM
MMM is 78 today.

https://youtu.be/MkVv0XvQ5Lg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 15, 2023, 07:51:25 AM
Shake Your Dude Thing  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlnVBxv_6ec
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2023, 04:13:32 PM
It doesn't even sound like a mash-up, but like an organic song. Because, for all their missteps and sometimes banal music, Aerosmith were always credibly funky. More so than any other white rock'n'roll band of their stature and era.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 17, 2023, 04:16:14 PM
If you - like me - always wondered how the Bowie track Let's Dance ended up the way it did when in its original form it was supposed to have sounded "like a country song", then this is really enlightening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDCPCwVNUw

As is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUynNbieYPI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 20, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
Kick-ass, but lamentably short-lived mid-70ies 'supergroup' of sorts made up of Uriah Heep, Humble Pie/Colosseum & East of Wings luminaries. Dominant keyboards the way I like'm!  8) Byron is less operatic than with Heep and Clempson extremely tasteful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9hvA_H2bk

High marks for Geoff Britton kicking (not hitting!) the huge gong at the end of the first song (03:27). (That said, he did run a kickboxing/karate training school in London in the late 70ies/early 80ies so he was perhaps just training to stay agile and in shape.)

(https://c8.alamy.com/compde/g49hb1/geoff-britton-der-neue-schlagzeuger-mit-paul-mccartneys-gruppe-wings-demonstriert-die-alte-orientalische-kunst-von-karate-g49hb1.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 21, 2023, 11:03:32 AM
Jonny Lang live in Montreux back in 1999.
Man, was he on fire back then (the entire band was excellent by the way)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb6wkH7g7zM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2023, 06:49:59 AM
https://youtu.be/b0Upk41P7aw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 07:24:44 AM
Dave is just scared of being drafted again.

By the way, why weren't you? Too young?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2023, 07:35:58 AM
If my number had come up, maybe my congenital heart valve defect would have been discovered much sooner.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 08:19:09 AM
So you were actually in the age group. Lucky you. Not sure about the detection thing, you also might have made the return trip in a black body bag from Vietnam. Or have kids with Agent Orange defects. Be careful what you wish for.

Who else here could have been potentially drafted?

My elder brother (born 1951, I was born nine years later) died of CHVD last year. He put that operation off so long (the birth defect was only detected with him when he was a senior citizen already) saying he wouldn't survive it until when he finally had to he sure enough didn't, just didn't wake up from coma and then his organs dropped out one by one. Self-fulfilling prophecy, the idiot. I miss him. And not just because of some cultural items that left forever imprints with his kid brother back in the early 70ies ...

(https://www.hollywoodcomics.com/forbbimag03.jpg)

(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1969/cover_425262112016_r.jpg)

(https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/md/md13717648084.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aiQAAOSwZ3Zj1wyn/s-l1600.png)


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2023, 09:50:14 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/vietnam-war/draft-picker/

I could have potentially been drafted, but never was.  There were people who were drafted, people who never got drafted, and people who got drafted but went to Canada.  I had a distant relative I only met once who got drafted and ended up dying in Vietnam.  A first cousin was drafted, but came back from Vietnam fine.  That is the extent of my first-hand knowledge. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 10:20:20 AM
I never knew it was based on a lottery, my goodness, how arbitrary!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2023, 12:15:01 PM
I never knew it was based on a lottery, my goodness, how arbitrary!

Believe me, the people eligible for the draft and watching live TV to see what numbers would be drawn also thought the lottery was arbitrary.  The whole thing reminds me somewhat of Shirley Jackson's short story "The Lottery." 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
In hindsight, a most unfortunate, good-for-nothing war, based on a wild mix of good intentions, Western arrogance + naïveté as well as frankly horrendously bad reconnaissance of the political and historical situation both in North and South Vietnam (not that all three haven't happened again and again in wars many years later!). The French obviously gave you the wrong manual to read.

Uncle Ho, an educated and soft-spoken man, was an early admirer of George Washington and the American Constitution, something must have gone wrong badly along the way.

(https://english.hochiminh.vn/Uploads/2020/5/7/6/060520_lan-toa-3.jpg)

And if you're cynical, you can console yourself with the realization that the US military learned a lot from the Vietnam conflict and that all that gained know-how and experience laid the seeds for the US still having unrivaled superiority for swift ad hoc large-scale military intervention anywhere on this planet. But it came at a very high price of American and Vietnamese lives.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 23, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
No one disputes the fact that the war was a tragic mistake.  It isn't even debatable. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 01:06:30 PM
There haven't been a lot of "good wars" since if you ask me. WW II was unparalleled in the easy (and not debatable) division between good and bad, especially in the European theater. Wars like that don't happen often though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on March 23, 2023, 03:46:41 PM
I was certainly in the age group , and thankfully lived in Canada. I know a fair number of Americans that moved here to avoid it. Many still live here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2023, 04:18:53 PM
The lottery didn't come along until 1969. By then, the war had already become very unpopular. Before then, a lot depended on your local draft board.

Sorry to hear about your brother, Uwe. I may eventually have to face the same decision, but so far, so good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 05:31:22 PM
Danke. Well, don't wait too long, Dave! The surgeons told us that the unrepaired defect had done huge damage to all of his heart in more recent years. While he received two new pig valves and numerous bypasses, the organ as such was in pitiful shape. They were shaken by the sight of it.

Pig valves ... That raises a question, what do Jews or Muslims do?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2023, 11:17:30 PM
I'm tested regularly. EKG, cardiac MRI. Beyond that, I'm not comfortable discussing here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 24, 2023, 07:07:56 AM
I was prime draft age, but in 1966 was hit from behind while turning left on a motorcycle and almost lost my left leg below the knee.  I ended up with a 6-inch steel plate in my shin.  Actually, early wounds in the war may have contributed to the expertise of the Vietnamese doctor who put my leg back together.  Why a very nice Vietnamese gent (Dr. Wie L. Bong) settled in the eastern Washington college town of Pullman I don't know, but he was one helluva fine surgeon.  Not many could have saved that leg.

Recovery was lengthy, the leg took a long time to achieve decent strength, and I walked with a noticeable limp for a couple of years. (Probably longer than that, but who cares now?)  I'm quite confident that if I had been called by the draft, the physical would have failed me in moments.  I entered college in 1968 and when the lottery was instituted, I ended up with a high enough draft number that I wasn't very likely to have been called in any case. 

At least two of my high school graduating class (176 people) died in Vietnam.  A number of my friends in college served and came back, fortunately without major physical injury.

The leg actually healed well, although it's still sensitive to certain kinds of stress.  However, I can downhill ski using a protective plate I made which protects the scar where the ski boot contacts it.  In fact, I went skiing with my youngest daughter at Loveland ski area in early March.  I was planning to ski in the last couple of weeks, but I fell on some ice and cracked a couple of ribs, and I decided I should probably not tempt fate until they heal...which will put me past the end of ski season this year.

Incidentally, I still have an occasional urge to ride a motorcycle, but I've never been able to convince myself that I'm not much better off to be in a car while driving.  I'm also a rather nervous bicycle rider and much prefer bike paths to streets shared with cars.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2023, 08:07:33 AM
My knee replacement in 2018 had only one thing to regret: I should have done it years earlier! It feels better and better over the years - it's only when I walk down steep stairs (going up isn't an issue) that I notice that a replacement knee joint doesn't offer the same kind of lateral movement as an organic one, mother nature in all her uncanny brilliance and wisdom!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 24, 2023, 09:03:38 AM
I am fortunate that so far the joints are all working well... (Groucho: How long you been hanging out in those joints?)

The older you get, the more "use it or lose it" applies.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 24, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
https://youtu.be/Meo9VQKhN-Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 25, 2023, 06:20:12 AM
A little fun.

https://youtu.be/4PSzFJMRrDQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on March 25, 2023, 03:10:24 PM
I was way to young to be drafted, but old enough to know many who were and be worried that they could bring it back.

When the first Iraq war hit I remember sitting in my car and feeling grateful that I would be 26 soon, so even if they did restart the draft I would be aged out by the time they got to me. I had to explain all that to my recently turned 18 year old this year when I told him he'd need to send in his selective service card soon (which was untrue, he got a letter shortly thereafter letting him know they'd taken care of it and to update them if his contact info ever changes). No semblance of privacy from the "government" anymore, but I think I calmed his nerves a bit.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 26, 2023, 04:37:41 AM
My old friend Rob Lamothe has made an album with a new band/project Cross Country Driver.
It is released on Frontier records.  Now that record company has a disputable reputation for releasing very generic albums of washed out rockers that record an album with anonymous Italian studio musicians.

But the Cross Country Driver album is a brilliant exception. Lamothe's songwriting is still excellent and he avoids worn out clichées. Guitarist James Harper adds funky fresh guitar parts and Rob's son Zander is a great drummer with a good swing and groove. Lamothe invited some friends to contribute, such as Badlands bassist Greg Chaisson (Lamothe sang on his solo-album It's About Time). Kings X' Dug Pinnick guests on vocals and bass on a few songs. Rhonda Smith (Jeff Beck, Prince) plays bass, drummer Mike Mangini (Dream Theater). And his former Riverdogs companion Vivian Campbell guests on guitar and vocal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xekHwAgtTY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IliIhNvQRU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR2fnD4WjvQ



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 26, 2023, 05:39:12 PM
Here is one of my favorite songs by Lacuna Coil from their 2019 Black Anima album. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTud9BQcF0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 26, 2023, 07:21:28 PM
My old friend Rob Lamothe has made an album with a new band/project Cross Country Driver.
It is released on Frontier records.  Now that record company has a disputable reputation for releasing very generic albums of washed out rockers that record an album with anonymous Italian studio musicians.

But the Cross Country Driver album is a brilliant exception. Lamothe's songwriting is still excellent and he avoids worn out clichées. Guitarist James Harper adds funky fresh guitar parts and Rob's son Zander is a great drummer with a good swing and groove. Lamothe invited some friends to contribute, such as Badlands bassist Greg Chaisson (Lamothe sang on his solo-album It's About Time). Kings X' Dug Pinnick guests on vocals and bass on a few songs. Rhonda Smith (Jeff Beck, Prince) plays bass, drummer Mike Mangini (Dream Theater). And his former Riverdogs companion Vivian Campbell guests on guitar and vocal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xekHwAgtTY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IliIhNvQRU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR2fnD4WjvQ

I think Frontier has some good artists, including that one. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 30, 2023, 06:24:11 AM
Now where have I heard this before?

https://youtu.be/ds3wXLxM6kg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 30, 2023, 07:32:06 AM
Given your biblical age, Dave, probably here? Ironically, I stumbled across this only two days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NJ-MIfFHI

For some reason I never thought this was a Canned Heat original (I have no idea how they credited it at the time) though I did assume that the flute intro was of their own making. I always saw them as committed Bluesology librarians with huge old Blues shellac record collections to draw material from long before anyone else did. Wasn't that even part of their image? That they were Blues aficionados who had picked up instruments on a quest to educate white kids on one of the great chapters of US cultural heritage?

Canned Heat didn't have much of a glamorous image for a German teenager to latch onto (they weren't exactly Alice Cooper), but I always dug them. And that the Woodstock movie was introduced by this song IIRC, has immortalized it and made it iconic. Plus it's a great little tune. And Alan "Blind Owl" Wilson tender and folksy falsetto delivery was idiosyncratic.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 30, 2023, 07:58:02 AM
Given my biblical age, it's been so long that I don't remember, if I ever even knew.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 30, 2023, 08:01:54 AM
It's like I always say, you've forgotten more things than we'll all ever learn.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 30, 2023, 01:24:48 PM
This reminds me of the title for the sci-fi movie "We've Forgotten More Than We Ever Knew."

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 02, 2023, 06:23:46 AM
I've always liked him as a person and in his day job, but I didn't know he was so good at this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_6RQKoCTVY

A very flourishing and expressive stage presence, no doubt, he really should have been an actor!  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 03, 2023, 10:20:28 AM
https://youtu.be/GfKN7wSTwLA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 03, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
So that is how he looked like as a young man! I only knew him like this, with the perm wig:

(http://www.muzines.co.uk/images_mag/articles/im/IM_86_01_carl_perkins_large.jpg)

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you don't hide that widow's peak, you're proud of it! It runs in the family with us Hornungs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 03, 2023, 12:43:12 PM
More Americans: art for art's sake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsSk-ZepkwE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 03, 2023, 08:44:45 PM
So that is how he looked like as a young man! I only knew him like this, with the perm wig:

(http://www.muzines.co.uk/images_mag/articles/im/IM_86_01_carl_perkins_large.jpg)


Carl's toupee was bad, but Hank Snow's toupee was epic. It must have been made from roadkill.

Look starting at 2:30 when Marty Robbins interviews him. You can see the side view.

https://youtu.be/Hz6o6EaUmbU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 04, 2023, 05:06:51 PM
Ain't seein' nuthin' a tube of denture fixative couldn't have helped the man with!

(https://i-cf65.ch-static.com/content/dam/cf-consumer-healthcare/denture-appliance-care/en_GB/losalisation/products/Max-Seal-640x380.png?auto=format)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 05, 2023, 07:02:46 AM
https://youtu.be/Evx3KvSg3XA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 05, 2023, 08:44:02 AM
Wot, where did Jim Fox's angler hat go? It ain't the same without it.

Really nice. But the song is also a testament to Joe's songwriting developing into a trio-format-breaking direction. Hence the need for a keyboarder.

I didn't know that they have been gigging again as recent as late last year, still no angler hat though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANr_zymymk

Walsh never fails to entertain.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 05, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3CIDPuxwrY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 05, 2023, 06:24:57 PM
Wot, where did Jim Fox's angler hat go? It ain't the same without it.

Really nice. But the song is also a testament to Joe's songwriting developing into a trio-format-breaking direction. Hence the need for a keyboarder.

I didn't know that they have been gigging again as recent as late last year, still no angler hat though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANr_zymymk

Walsh never fails to entertain.

There have been keyboards here and there throughout their career, at least on studio recordings. Mostly by Joe, occasionally by Jim.

They didn't play between 2006 and 2022. Last year was only for three shows. No plans for more, but Joe said never say never.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 06, 2023, 05:09:52 AM
Yeah, I was aware that Joe played keyboards with them a lot, even on the Live in Concert album. I never understood why they didn't enlarge their line-up - Joe as their chief songwriter wanted it and always said it was his reason to move on (and he never played in a trio format again, even when he played harder music), were Fox and Peters so unsure of their position that they resisted it? Ironically, the remaining history of the Gang was basically a never-ending quest to find a stable line-up where two people did what Walsh had done before alone. They turned into a quartet with separate lead guitar and lead vocal roles and never added a keyboarder for good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Highlander on April 06, 2023, 03:06:10 PM
And that first quartet had a DP link... eventually... they were both competent LPs that lineup put out...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 06, 2023, 04:47:48 PM
Second quartet! The first one was Domenic Troiano with Roy Kenner in tow - two RnB inclined Canucks -, Bolin then replaced Troiano after two albums because Fox and Peters wanted someone more "rock" than Troiano and Walsh recommended Bolin to them. Kenner was first enamored with Bolin, but by the recording of Miami (a much less ebullient album than the previous Bang) he was frustrated by Bolin's now apparent lack of interest (drug- or music-fueled or both) and handed in his notice with Bolin following suit shortly after.

Miami isn't an awful album, but the decrease in energy and commitment is telling. Bolin didn't get along with Fox and began ridiculing the latter's hobbies such as collecting car license plates from all States.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 07, 2023, 03:51:52 PM
Now that was fun to watch! I didn't really think her voice would be suited for the song, but I was wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYPWpUWpfY

More frantic, but hell it's an encore in the set. And explains why I preferred VH with Hagar, DLR couldn't have done this. (Well, except for the can-can dancing part of course, he was always nimble.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD16RcpAlno
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 08, 2023, 10:15:29 AM
Outstanding performances by both Sheryl Crow and Van Halen. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 08, 2023, 12:50:49 PM
Two members of one of my all-time favorite bands (=Cry Of Love) have been playing with Sheryl Crow for quite a few years; Audley Freed and Robert P Kearns.
Here they are with fellow Sheryl guitarist Peter Stroud. And Keith Gattis and none other than Ike Stubblefield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTaGiCByIr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL75uSiMZ2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbnyhaNcrXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVPsanz6Scs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2023, 03:47:04 PM
Suzi and some other Detroit/Flint dude from an American Band or such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3dw840TLM0
Farner sure hasn't lost his pipes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 11, 2023, 10:16:27 AM
Not a great singer, even then, but she had attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID0AzfA8ehw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 11, 2023, 01:15:17 PM
Three blissful blasts from the early 80ies ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQgfaB3S1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCL5ux66KgE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mZkMD7cDnk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoDf3l2xZ9Y

I saw Billy Squier open for Whitesnake in Europe in 1981/82 (Whitesnake were very much bigger here) and, man, did he give David Coverdale and his men a real run for their money. Incredibly tight and with Kenny Aaronson on bass prowling the stage and playing all these stunning little licks with great aplomb (just watch My Kinda Lover at 01:52). And at the end of the tour, Billy even had the chutzpah to attempt to poach Jon Lord and Ian Paice from WS! Coverdale wasn't amused ...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 12, 2023, 06:45:34 AM
Not a great singer, even then, but she had attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID0AzfA8ehw

You must have seen this on the sidebar too.  ;D [Uwe's edit: So true!] I watched some yesterday. Ah, Debbie... She helped me get through 8th grade.  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 12, 2023, 06:47:48 AM
Three blissful blasts from the early 80ies ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoDf3l2xZ9Y

I saw Billy Squier open for Whitesnake in Europe in 1981/82 (Whitesnake were very much bigger here) and, man, did he give David Coverdale and his men a real run for their money. Incredibly tight and with Kenny Aaronson on bass prowling the stage and playing all these stunning little licks with great aplomb (just watch My Kinda Lover at 01:52). And at the end of the tour, Billy even had the chutzpah to attempt to poach Jon Lord and Ian Paice from WS! Coverdale wasn't amused ...  :mrgreen:

Squier had a good "pop Zeppelin" thing going on in the early 80s. Talented guy, real good band. That's hilarious about Lord and Paice! Can you imagine?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2023, 08:40:52 AM
Given that during the recording of the next album (Saints & Sinners) following that tour, DC basically disbanded the then Whitesnake line-up for a period of self-contemplation and strife with the management, only to then rehire just parts of the band going forward (Jon Lord and Micky Moody, but not Ian Paice, Neil Murray and Bernie Marsden), I'm not so sure whether Jon and Ian might not have regretted negotiating good contracts with Billy! Because even Jon Lord must have had second thoughts when he found out later that Cozy Powell was on a higher wage than him with the new Whitesnake line-up. You don't do that to ex-DP rock royalty!  8)

Ian Paice didn't want to reconquer the US from the ground up - he had done that with DP already, endless tours of DP opening for The Faces etc. DC was still hungry though (and would eventually achieve his goal of course). Billy Squier's busy US touring schedule might have been an issue, but in the early 80ies he was easily the more established and hopeful act who could offer higher grade gigs for British rock royalty. Musically, I could have seen it work, but of course Billy's band mates were no slouches either. The late Bobby Chouinard as Billy's then drummer especially had quite a reputation. But both Ian and Jon were adaptable musicians, they could have slotted right in. (Jon wasn't always happy with his role in WS, the constant twin-guitar-attack gave him a lot less freedom than with Ritchie in Purple, the latter leaving a lot of space for Jon due to his sparse rhythm guitar playing.) But of course, Coverdale was a fellow-Brit and a former band mate turned band leader - that provided for some glue within WS.

When after the DP reunion in 1985/86 a journalist at a WS press conference innocently asked whether Coverdale had "contributed anything" to the Mk II reunion (at that point he hated any mention of his DP past), a suitably irritated DC snapped: "Yes, JON LORD !!!"  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 12, 2023, 11:54:23 AM
Revisiting Aphrodite's Child.  Vangelis had a rock band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ_UYHqWfJk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 12, 2023, 02:30:27 PM
Recorded 69 years ago today.

https://youtu.be/DWkuM2IPbZQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2023, 02:59:55 PM
And to this day my favorite 50ies rock'n'roll song. I know, Bill Haley wasn't Elvis or Little Richard or Chuck Berry or Jerry Lee Lewis, he had none of that edge to him, there wasn't that sexual undercurrent to his music and no perceptive lyrics of American teenage life, but I always thought that number exquisitely played and recorded. And it isn't that easy to replicate well with the Western Swing it has, everybody covered Chuck Berry numbers to death, but Rock Around the Clock? More a hard one to get right.

When he toured Germany in 1958 he was among the first rock'n'roll artists to do so, German youth was starved for this music (and of endlessly hearing from their parents: "You didn't fight in the war ..."), and do I need to tell you how those Krauts went apeshit?! Riot round the clock !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsp5bLCPMNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtG7qjZ-XQ4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2023, 03:08:39 PM
Revisiting Aphrodite's Child.  Vangelis had a rock band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ_UYHqWfJk

Indeed. With prog rock god Demis Roussos.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4LKlOyC-To

Hey, I have a soft spot for Greek easy listening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_purxqH_Nk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 12, 2023, 03:15:36 PM
Indeed. With prog rock god Demis Roussos.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4LKlOyC-To

Hey, I have a soft spot for Greek easy listening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_purxqH_Nk

I love the bass line in this one.  Demis was quite a good bass player I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BUDrKiR49o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2023, 03:19:13 PM
You must have seen this on the sidebar too.  ;D [Uwe's edit: So true!] I watched some yesterday. Ah, Debbie... She helped me get through 8th grade.  :P

Can we mention Blondie here without mentioning the one and only Wendy James of Transvision Vamp? We certainly can't, ACHTUNG CLICKBAIT !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXf-wHT_SCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMKw1bBzFXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsUXUVk2SA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 12, 2023, 04:52:04 PM
My funeral song. Laura's original version, written when she was a teenager, is effing brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDX27aWnL88

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 14, 2023, 08:05:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj7W37ZG-nY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on April 15, 2023, 04:50:45 AM
Curtis Mayfield.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2023, 09:21:34 AM
Yup, I discovered him late, but he's a treasure trove.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2023, 01:20:56 PM
She's currently the hot topic of German music critics, I had never heard of her. That second track owes a lot to Bowie's Heroes - steal from the best!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEzW7aS1dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVx9TLR3XH0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABYnqp-bxvg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on April 15, 2023, 01:38:51 PM
Toronto girl. Been at it for a while now.

Nice to see her finding some attention.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 15, 2023, 04:39:34 PM
https://youtu.be/6imEyk0G7pg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2023, 06:13:10 PM
An early Gibson player too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh0Py4fNRqc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2023, 06:43:04 PM
Bad Co on their early US conquest. Boz with his fretless Ampeg bass. I guess they were just made for America's stadiums. Playing sparsely, but to great effect. Rodgers switching between electric piano, rhythm guitar and just being the lead singer gave them more flexibility than most four pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNmINbO9VyY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on April 16, 2023, 04:46:10 AM
Feist did an Apple ad some time back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LarZG0l3dPc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2023, 06:07:54 AM
I've never even seen one of those Nano things ever. Maybe I should go out more or meet young people?!  :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 16, 2023, 12:28:31 PM
I've never even seen one of those Nano things ever. Maybe I should go out more or meet young people?!  :-X

Playing the Boomer card?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 16, 2023, 03:58:51 PM
I recently bought the Cheap Trick "Complete Epic Albums Collection" on CD.  Each album is in a sleeve that's the album cover.  So good.  And only $40 for the whole box set.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 16, 2023, 07:44:36 PM
An early Gibson player too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh0Py4fNRqc

Ricky was 7 then (in 1961).

61 years later. He's aged slightly.

https://youtu.be/NwDpX_hyOjE

https://youtu.be/pNnq1ioUwhs


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 20, 2023, 01:46:39 PM
Extreme released two new songs of the forthcoming album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovFzN373vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQ6MIjoY_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2023, 08:58:55 PM
https://youtu.be/CYEsyVjRoTk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2023, 05:03:39 AM
Now we're talking! Three Dog Night, who unfortunately went the way all bands seem to go who didn't write their own material: relegation to eventual obscurity (and no one takes them serious).

There was no getting away from them when I went to the American School in the mid-70ies. "The rock band even the girls liked."  ;D

Will you now post something from Bread too, Dave? That's another one the girls liked.
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Post by: Dave W on April 21, 2023, 05:41:40 AM
Now we're talking! Three Dog Night, who unfortunately went the way all bands seem to go who didn't write their own material: relegation to eventual obscurity (and no one takes them serious).

There was no getting away from them when I went to the American School in the mid-70ies. "The rock band even the girls liked."  ;D

Will you now post something from Bread too, Dave? That's another one the girls liked.

I liked this cut from their first album, it got a good bit of airplay even though it's forgotten today. Then they tuned so sappy that if you bored a hole in them, sap would have come running out.

https://youtu.be/oexsNIzpPX4

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Post by: Pilgrim on April 21, 2023, 06:51:44 AM
About the same time as 3 Dog Night . one of my favorite "horn bands"...B, S & T.  David Clayton-Thomas had a great, distinctive voice, and the whole band was really tight and solid.  I love the brass work on this.  There's also a nice shot of the bass player working hard...and you can actually hear the bass in the mix!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDHVWg8tqc
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Post by: gearHed289 on April 21, 2023, 07:14:35 AM
Extreme released two new songs of the forthcoming album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovFzN373vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQ6MIjoY_k

I never followed these guys back in the day, but my main band in the 90s guitarist was way into them. The first new track they released - Rise - is absolutely killer and definitely got my attention. I listened to Banshee yesterday and was not that blown away. But listening to #Rebel now, and it rocks pretty good. They sound energized and maybe a tad angry, which is good!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2023, 08:08:54 AM
Oh my, I'm a Blood, Sweat & Tears diehard, I have everything from them plus what David Clayton-Thomas has done since. They are my favorite horn rock band - Chicago became too ballady after a while and Tower of Power were too funky for my taste. I also thought BS&T's horn arrangements were the most daring/cutting edge.

Good as DCT as their second frontman after Al Kooper was, I also liked his successor/predecessor (when DCT returned), Jerry Fisher, great singer (if none of DCT's stage charisma):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNexeGi8NKg

And then there was of course the short-lived phase of the "two Jerrys", when Jerry LaCroix from Edgar Winter's White Trash joined and sang co-lead with Jerry Fisher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_gKV6oTiQ

Let's not forget Al Kooper, no BS&T if it hadn't been for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOSOtiaS_xY

Of course, the many frontman changes did the band no commercial favors (nor the stupid decision to not let themselves be filmed at Woodstock or tour Eastern Europe on some CIA-funded venture in the Cold War). And they didn't have an abundance of songwriters either (though DCT was responsible for some of their greatest hits like Spinning Wheel), they were in essence arrangers, but very good ones.

Anyway, nice to find someone here who dug them too. With Dave, I always detect an undercurrent between the lines when he mentions BS&T, I do believe that Herr Westheimer thought/thinks them perennially uncool!  :mrgreen: Or as Joey Ramone once commented while damning the pre-Ramones NYC rock scene of which BS&T formed a part:"overweight muso's music".
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Post by: uwe on April 21, 2023, 08:19:22 AM
I liked this cut from their first album, it got a good bit of airplay even though it's forgotten today. Then they tuned so sappy that if you bored a hole in them, sap would have come running out.

https://youtu.be/oexsNIzpPX4

They did hear their fair share of Beatles/McCartney, didn't they?  :)
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Post by: 4stringer77 on April 21, 2023, 08:19:29 AM
Regarding Extreme, Nuno is ripping but there's a reason Gary Cherone didn't set the world abalaze with his stint in Van Halen. Not sure about Nuno's hoop earrings. Is he getting fashion tips from Salt n' Peppa?
Speaking of Garys, Gary Ryan, the original Joan Jett and the Blackheart's bassist has my favorite meat and potatoes bass tone.
I picked up a live Joan cd from 1/31/81 and the bass was fat and up front in the mix. My kid makes me blare the first song and only the first song, "Bad Reputation" when I take her to school.
Here's one that sounds from the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhreHsUVAk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
Extreme released two new songs of the forthcoming album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovFzN373vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYQ6MIjoY_k

Lieber Rob, do tell me, is there a version available of the first song that also features something like, uhum, a chorus*** or does that innocent question date me badly?  8)

[***In popular music, the refrain or chorus may contrast with the verse melodically, rhythmically, and harmonically; it may assume a higher level of dynamics and activity, often with added instrumentation. Chorus form, or strophic form, is a sectional and/or additive way of structuring a piece of music based on the repetition of one formal section or block played repeatedly.]

Banshee is better though it sounds like a Velvet Revolver outtake.

And for the record: For the mess that Van Halen III was, Gary Cherone bears the least responsibility. He didn't join a sinking ship, he joined a U-Boat wreck broken apart at the bottom of the cold dark ocean.

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That they even talked him into it, irresponsible of them.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 21, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
or does that innocent question date me badly? 
It does yes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 21, 2023, 12:25:01 PM
Why must you always take things to the Extreme?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 21, 2023, 12:46:02 PM
You made it too easy :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2023, 04:45:15 PM
Doesn't that song sound very current today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRv7EjjwYBI
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Post by: morrow on April 24, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
Bobby Vega ! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPzwuiJCSbs
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Post by: Ken on April 24, 2023, 07:27:02 PM
I love Paul Turner's playing here.  Great song, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiPKglkUrQ8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 25, 2023, 06:08:00 AM
My home town, the way it used to be.

https://youtu.be/FSU145Cr9So
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Post by: Dave W on April 25, 2023, 10:26:26 PM
I hadn't seen this performance before.

https://youtu.be/9SG65dlho_o
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Post by: uwe on April 26, 2023, 07:07:17 AM
Musikladen (the successor to Beat Club) was a German music show that came in two formats: Musikladen (canned music) and Musikladen Extra (live music). This performance is curiously in between and attempts a live vibe (and Finn's percussion is louder than it ever was on studio recordings), but certainly Bolan's vocals are not live, just look at 02:14 where he is away from the mic while the flawless vocals go on. The music playing is not the studio track (no strings), but must be something pre-recorded specifically for the show or an initial live studio track doctored heavily in the aftermath.

Real Bolan live was a lot more ramshackle than this, he had a Hendrix'esque/Neil Young'ish abandon to playing guitar (if none of the technical skills of the aforementioned two).

Still a gem to watch though the beginnings of Bolan's bloated phase are already becoming slightly visible.


EDIT: This is actually from the rehearsals to that particular TV show and much more like it, Marc Bolan live in all his wild and imperfect glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAI4O5woDiQ

I've said it before, I'll say it again: There is an undeniable Marc Bolan influence in how Prince approached guitar and vocals.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 26, 2023, 10:10:50 AM
An English (from Shropshire, very close to Wales) national treasure domicexiled in Connecticut for the last 40 years or so, three-and-half years older (!) than Joe Biden, singing about a legendary Hamburg music club that spawned a few noteworthy careers. The drummer on the track is incidentally from Liverpool (once with "The Silver Bugs 'n' Sheridan" as the 'Unter sings), the guitarist from Tom Petty, the album (Defiance Part 1) released on, yes, Sun Records.

You need any more boxes ticked? What the hell is not to like?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1B-oHjTiI0
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Post by: Dave W on April 26, 2023, 06:35:36 PM
Billy (The Kid) Emerson passed yesterday at age 97. He was apparently the oldest surviving Sun artist.

https://youtu.be/Y0nGvIXp_TM

Later covered (and slightly modified) by Billy Lee Riley in the 50s and Sam the Sham in the 60s.

https://youtu.be/_58C9T8IzsM

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Post by: uwe on April 27, 2023, 08:21:04 PM
Finally a good live version of it with the classic line-up, Thain's bass could just be louder in the mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3OcwvyI
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Post by: uwe on April 27, 2023, 09:29:59 PM
Minimalist art no one here gives a friggin' damn about ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zIXalqooc
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Post by: Ken on April 28, 2023, 06:40:45 AM
Finally a good live version of it with the classic line-up, Thain's bass could just be louder in the mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqLh3OcwvyI

If I could only have a camera fixed on Gary, that would be great.  One of my absolute favorite bass players.  Fortunately his bass is high in the mix on the live album.
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Post by: uwe on April 28, 2023, 10:58:44 AM
How come we never talk about these guys here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCe5L1imxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f09itrlXcic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXCqDbCQVdw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 28, 2023, 11:01:50 AM
If I could only have a camera fixed on Gary, that would be great.  One of my absolute favorite bass players.  Fortunately his bass is high in the mix on the live album.

Both Hensley and Gerry Bron (Heep's producer for ages) were such fans of Thain's overt musicality, they always wanted him high up in the mix. And both have said that only Trevor Bolder came close as a bassist within Heep.
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Post by: Dave W on April 28, 2023, 12:24:49 PM
The Turtles were a very good pop band. Kaylan and Volman are multi-talented guys. Most of their stuff is still very listenable today. What else can you say about them? I can't recall anyone putting them in the same league with the most influential bands.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 28, 2023, 12:43:02 PM
If you get asked to sing on Frank Zappa, Marc Bolan and Bruce Springsteen records, you must be doing something right.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 28, 2023, 02:00:51 PM
Before I was even old enough to drive, my parents took my sister and me to a concert that had several acts, including Tom Jones and the Turtles.  After it was over, my sister and I went outside to our parents.  They had been standing out there talking to several members of the Turtles.  My sister and I were both like, what the hell?  I've mentioned some of this before in other posts, but I don't think I've ever told the whole story.  It isn't surprising, though.  Through the years, my mother especially has encountered several famous singers, mostly country artists.  I think most of it was coincidental. 




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on April 28, 2023, 03:03:16 PM
I've been listening to the British band 'Broadcast'.

https://youtu.be/siA6a4jJULQ

They are regarded as a 'hauntological' band, in that they used a lot of retro motifs and timbres in their music, but it was made using modern equipment and often had off-kilter harmonies and structures. Sadly singer Trish Keenan died suddenly of swine flu a few years ago.

Many bands try and dress like 1960s groups or use vintage equipment to get the right tones, but few capture this eerie, unsettling vibe. This track wouldn't have worked as a single in the '60s, yet it sounds like one. The lush Burt Bacharach soundscape, distorted backing vocals and clattering drums all sound familiar, but the song's structure is fairly unconventional.

https://youtu.be/j7-Dj1bXlvs
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Post by: uwe on April 28, 2023, 06:33:06 PM
Never heard or seen this version, different drummer - Jimmie who?! - and George singing second lead in the second verse. Lennon's triplets are incredibly precise, he's almost like a mandolin player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR8guQ8RYqw
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Post by: uwe on April 28, 2023, 07:04:46 PM
Some...what ener...get...ic....

Did that poor SG consent to being whipped at the end?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9lhh66KmM
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Post by: Alanko on April 29, 2023, 12:26:59 AM
Paunchy coke-addled Bolan is not the best Bolan. There is only so many times you can drop an SG on the ground like that! I'm surprised the headstock didn't fly away.
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Post by: westen44 on April 29, 2023, 02:21:44 AM
Never heard or seen this version, different drummer - Jimmie who?! - and George singing second lead in the second verse. Lennon's triplets are incredibly precise, he's almost like a mandolin player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR8guQ8RYqw

That's an interesting version.  They have the substitute drummer that was with them for 13 days.  George's contribution to the vocals is unexpected.  Many people who listen closely notice what John is doing on rhythm.  It does stand out. 
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Post by: morrow on April 29, 2023, 04:58:32 AM
They were a great live band. That first album was pretty much live off the floor.
And that would change …
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 29, 2023, 05:39:53 AM
A friend posted this on his YT channel a few hours ago.  ;D

https://youtu.be/1pw1OdYXVNU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on April 29, 2023, 06:37:01 AM
Good one. Lots of good music on that guys channel. I found Uwe's favorite on there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITynN4kdmw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 29, 2023, 07:08:47 AM
Never heard or seen this version, different drummer - Jimmie who?! - and George singing second lead in the second verse. Lennon's triplets are incredibly precise, he's almost like a mandolin player.


Jimmy Nicol. A name everybody in The Netherlands remembers because to the disappointment of all the Beatles-fans Ringo had to bow out for this short European tour ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoYwkr1y0UE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on April 29, 2023, 07:12:12 AM
And the Australian tour immediately after.
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Post by: uwe on April 29, 2023, 07:19:48 AM
Jimmy Nicol. A name everybody in The Netherlands remembers because to the disappointment of all the Beatles-fans Ringo had to bow out for this short European tour ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoYwkr1y0UE

Oh, so you know music before the release of  Thin Lizzy's Live & Dangerous and Mother's Finest - Live too, who'd have thought ...

(https://media.tenor.com/nDbjNCx-sy8AAAAM/legend-1985.gif)

Nicol plays more forcefully than Ringo - and that's not putting Ringo down, because what he might have lacked in chops or dominating drum presence, he more than made up with creativity. I'm a fan.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 29, 2023, 07:32:17 AM
Good one. Lots of good music on that guys channel. I found Uwe's favorite on there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITynN4kdmw

Oh my, that's lovely, danke! If the Purple guys had been aware of it, I'm sure they would have covered it like on their last album "Turning To Crime".

Blackmore was in awe of Nashville guitarists, he once said they can play circles around most rock guys technically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxS7DtM1TZU

And Steve Morse of course worships at the altar of Albert Lee (whom Blackmore also rates as a guitarist).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Wv0ZyuLhc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 29, 2023, 07:37:11 AM
A friend posted this on his YT channel a few hours ago.  ;D

https://youtu.be/1pw1OdYXVNU

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Post by: Dave W on April 29, 2023, 10:29:18 AM
Good one. Lots of good music on that guys channel. I found Uwe's favorite on there.


He's a personal friend. Lives in Stockholm, used to visit the US on vacation every year, until he retired several years ago.

He had over 10,000 45s when I met him back in the '00s, but he's made some big purchases since. One of them alone was well over 10,000.
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Post by: uwe on April 29, 2023, 11:28:58 AM
Terrible, these hoarders and completists.
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Post by: uwe on April 29, 2023, 11:46:34 AM
Pure bliss. That was the tour when I first saw them (in '88 at The Ritz in NYC): The 'Unter & the Mighty Ronno!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGajuYE72yw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on April 29, 2023, 02:29:53 PM
If you get asked to sing on Frank Zappa, Marc Bolan and Bruce Springsteen records, you must be doing something right.

And open for KISS. I wasn't there, but my brother in law was. He said they were great, but almost more of a comedy act.
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Post by: TBird1958 on May 01, 2023, 11:34:40 AM


 Not a new song, damn video - I've been this person.

https://youtu.be/0AcS49UdrIM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 01, 2023, 12:46:39 PM
At the House of Blues in Hollywood, 2000.

https://youtu.be/d6Un0xRjGlk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 01, 2023, 01:49:19 PM
MaidaVale is one of the Swedish bands I've been listening to lately.  This is one of their early songs from 2016.  I couldn't find their debut album on CD and had to settle for vinyl.  But their second album is widely available on CD. 

https://youtu.be/Gu31ZoY75rQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 02, 2023, 08:31:13 AM
Another Swedish band I really like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpUst8KE-s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 02, 2023, 08:59:06 AM
Graveyard gets a lot of respect.  Another Swedish band I've been listening to the past week is Siena Root. 

https://youtu.be/ANZRwdX2Du0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 02, 2023, 09:50:49 AM
Quite the scene they have going on over there!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 02, 2023, 11:05:06 AM
Quite the scene they have going on over there!

It looks like it!  I never know what I will come across next.  Most of it for me is just based on YouTube recommendations.  Why Sweden keeps coming up, I have no idea. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 02, 2023, 12:41:40 PM
Graveyard gets a lot of respect.  Another Swedish band I've been listening to the past week is Siena Root. 

https://youtu.be/ANZRwdX2Du0

I know these guys from a few older albums I have - 70ies Deep Purple and/or Uriah Heep live! -, but I wasn't aware that they now have chick singers, sounds even better than before.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 02, 2023, 12:52:25 PM
I know these guys from a few older albums I have - 70ies Deep Purple and/or Uriah Heep live! -, but I wasn't aware that they now have chick singers, sounds even better than before.

I think they've been around for quite some time.  I've mostly been listening to their latest music.  I just bought their last two CDs, but one hasn't got here yet.  From what I gather, that bassist who plays Rics exclusively must be the leader/producer of the band. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 02, 2023, 01:02:02 PM
More in the stoner rock direction, I've really been enjoying this Italian band.

https://smallstone.bandcamp.com/album/cosmic-blues
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 02, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
I think they've been around for quite some time.  I've mostly been listening to their latest music.  I just bought their last two CDs, but one hasn't got here yet.  From what I gather, that bassist who plays Rics exclusively must be the leader/producer of the band.

In that case you bought the two albums that began to feature women lead vocalists, I had the ones before.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 02, 2023, 05:12:46 PM
In that case you bought the two albums that began to feature women lead vocalists, I had the ones before.

It looks like the blonde female vocalist is now out.  Whether that's a good idea or not, I don't know.  I would have to listen to more of their music.  However, the one female vocalist left seems like she is trying pretty hard to sound like Janis Joplin.  As I've noted before, that's something which can sometimes be problematic with me.  Even Zephyr bothered me a little, although not much.  And although there is still much of Siana Root I need to listen to, I doubt if there is anything there that's going to be on the level of Candy Givens.  I don't want to sell anyone short, but credit needs to be given where credit is due.  That reminds me, I need to listen to that Zephyr CD again soon that I got.  Once was definitely not enough. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 02, 2023, 07:09:47 PM
I think the blonde was just a special guest for the tour.

I like Candy Givens - probably not 24/7, but she had a voice. It came from the soul, she sometimes sounded like a wounded animal, not like someone doing vocal acrobatics and what is that fancy word Dave always uses ... melisma!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8jCj75f-k
(Tommy and his Echoplex - LOL!)

Sure, she must have heard her share of Janis (and Janis' black predecessors), but so what. Not many white girls can sing like that, especially at her tender age.

And she was variable, she could do a Carol King singer/songwriter voice too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBLGf3zWjg

In the end she became a drug casualty, just like her band mate Tommy. Zephyr were a tragic band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 02, 2023, 07:29:15 PM
More in the stoner rock direction, I've really been enjoying this Italian band.

https://smallstone.bandcamp.com/album/cosmic-blues

A bluesy woman singer would fit with them nicely too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 03, 2023, 12:23:10 AM
I think the blonde was just a special guest for the tour.

I like Candy Givens - probably not 24/7, but she had a voice. It came from the soul, she sometimes sounded like a wounded animal, not like someone doing vocal acrobatics and what is that fancy word Dave always uses ... melisma!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8jCj75f-k
(Tommy and his Echoplex - LOL!)

Sure, she must have heard her share of Janis (and Janis' black predecessors), but so what. Not many white girls can sing like that, especially at her tender age.

And she was variable, she could do a Carol King singer/songwriter voice too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBLGf3zWjg

In the end she became a drug casualty, just like her band mate Tommy. Zephyr were a tragic band.

Candy Givens sounded natural when she sang.  There was nothing affected about her style.  Had she lived, I'm sure she could have accomplished even much more.  It definitely is a tragedy about those rock figures who died from drugs during that period.  A sad thing that has been left for us. 

My second Siena Root CD should be arriving today.  After listening to that, I should know a lot more than I do now about the band.  Or at least know more about the current line-up.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 03, 2023, 03:02:49 PM
More in the stoner rock direction, I've really been enjoying this Italian band.

https://smallstone.bandcamp.com/album/cosmic-blues

Although I definitely like the Italians very much, this stoner rock band Black Road is from Chicago.  I'm not sure how well known they are, but they would probably be fun to watch live.  They played a few years ago at SXSW. 

https://youtu.be/6yyU7jM27N4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 04, 2023, 02:42:49 AM
During the Covid19 period my wife's band (The CrowCatchers) recorded a beautiful song. It's an original Ann Peebles song.
The recordings were done in november 2020. But something went wrong with the tracks. And the recording was cast aside. And with all the lockdowns and other Covid-related misery the song was forgotten...
This week I stumbled upon the song on my iMac that Floor used to record the vocal parts.
And I thought it would be a shame to not share it with the world.
So I made a video with pics of the band plus the lyrics.

Enjoy!
Floor Kraayvanger - Vocals
Jeffrey Migchelsen - Guitars
Donald van der Goes - Bass
Marco Overkamp - Drums



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCOx67yw9A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 04, 2023, 07:01:19 AM
That was excellent!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 04, 2023, 07:10:04 AM
I agree.  If that was supposed to be a throwaway song, I'd like to listen to the rest, too. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 04, 2023, 07:10:44 AM
Nice save , Rob.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 04, 2023, 08:47:17 AM
Always liked Floor's voice, even back in the Superfloor days when she had that other bassist - name escapes me, some Holländer I think - who was kind of difficult.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 04, 2023, 08:57:22 AM
Always liked Floor's voice, even back in the Superfloor days when she had that other bassist - name escapes me, some Holländer I think - who was kind of difficult.  :popcorn:

Oh, that guy quit playing in bands seven years ago.
Indeed too difficult.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 05, 2023, 08:21:21 AM
Ritchie and Russ are bolstering their pensions ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqcncLPi9zw&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P17ct4e5OE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gwk6mb3VtA



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 05, 2023, 10:17:26 AM
During the Covid19 period my wife's band (The CrowCatchers) recorded a beautiful song. It's an original Ann Peebles song.
The recordings were done in november 2020. But something went wrong with the tracks. And the recording was cast aside. And with all the lockdowns and other Covid-related misery the song was forgotten...
This week I stumbled upon the song on my iMac that Floor used to record the vocal parts.
And I thought it would be a shame to not share it with the world.
So I made a video with pics of the band plus the lyrics.

Enjoy!
Floor Kraayvanger - Vocals
Jeffrey Migchelsen - Guitars
Donald van der Goes - Bass
Marco Overkamp - Drums

That's great, Rob!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 05, 2023, 09:35:12 PM
I saw this on one of my regular blog reads. No idea who she is or where she's from but I like this. Only two songs on her channel, both Townes covers.

https://youtu.be/zDCke6PYAfM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 07, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
https://youtu.be/dSLeOzivpps
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 10, 2023, 08:12:29 PM
That horn section is brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNexeGi8NKg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 12, 2023, 08:42:59 AM
Not real country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJXsmDBS8k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 12, 2023, 08:46:10 AM
Related: https://www.brooklynvegan.com/dolly-parton-details-rockstar-lp-ft-paul-mccartney-stevie-nicks-rob-halford-debbie-harry-more/

Dolly is a national treasure.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 12, 2023, 09:44:20 AM
Related: https://www.brooklynvegan.com/dolly-parton-details-rockstar-lp-ft-paul-mccartney-stevie-nicks-rob-halford-debbie-harry-more/

Dolly is a national treasure.

In every respect.  Great person, great artist, and not afraid to step outside her customary genre.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 12, 2023, 08:47:16 PM
Not real country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJXsmDBS8k

You're absolutely right. Then again, Dolly is capable of more than real country.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 13, 2023, 08:45:43 AM
It's ok to be old and try something different.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 14, 2023, 06:22:50 AM
https://youtu.be/v1vfWjRxo1Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 14, 2023, 12:26:54 PM
Not real country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJXsmDBS8k

"Watsja gonna do when it all burnsj down"

Dolly's face is pulled so tight she can pronounce the words properly anymore.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 14, 2023, 09:54:24 PM
"Watsja gonna do when it all burnsj down"

Dolly's face is pulled so tight she can pronounce the words properly anymore.

And year after year, they move the camera farther away from her face.  ;D

I don't watch award shows of any kind but from short clips I've seen, this is what today's so-called country music has become: it's all about the performance, not about the music. It's pop star stuff.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 15, 2023, 02:41:31 AM
And year after year, they move the camera farther away from her face.  ;D

I don't watch award shows of any kind but from short clips I've seen, this is what today's so-called country music has become: it's all about the performance, not about the music. It's pop star stuff.

Just another example of Jack Bruce being right and many other people being wrong. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 15, 2023, 02:50:00 PM
Sparks revisit their midseventies power pop and want to go back into the womb ("I can live with a lousy view."  :mrgreen: ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMmoTU7lPKE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 16, 2023, 10:10:03 AM
Sparks revisit their midseventies power pop and want to go back into the womb ("I can live with a lousy view."  :mrgreen: ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMmoTU7lPKE
   

 That's fun stuff right there, I like it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 16, 2023, 02:05:09 PM
You're just writing that to be nice, as if I didn't know. No one - and I mean no one - gives a rat's ass about Sparks in this forum. They don't even register with you enough to be ignored. You've disowned the California Twins. Sad.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 16, 2023, 04:11:13 PM
I like Sparks.  Their documentary was really good.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 16, 2023, 04:30:19 PM
You're just writing that to be nice, as if I didn't know. No one - and I mean no one - gives a rat's ass about Sparks in this forum. They don't even register with you enough to be ignored. You've disowned the California Twins. Sad.
     

 I can freely admit to not knowing much of anything about them, I'm envious of the time that you have to listen to everything you do. i need to retire, or at least start working one less day a week.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 16, 2023, 08:04:14 PM
Real country.

https://youtu.be/VGR2nrq1hII
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2023, 05:55:18 AM
     

 I can freely admit to not knowing much of anything about them, I'm envious of the time that you have to listen to everything you do. i need to retire, or at least start working one less day a week.

I listen to music while working, that is the secret. It helps me concentrate. I know that sounds weird, but (wo)man is a creature of habit. When I do work (and most of my work is either writing or reading unless I'm in a video conference call), I get distracted by the natural sound ambience of a quiet room if there is no music running (I see dead people ... hear things!).. And I often do power play, like several albums of one artist, currently  abox of remastered King's X which never did much for me, but I'm finally getting the hang of it!

That said, retirement is almost fully here. As of this month, I'm an officially retired partner of Clifford Chance. I'm turning 63 this year and with CC - it's part of the package every partner buys into - by the end of fifty at the latest "succession discussions" commence, the iceberg needs to melt at the top to make room for younger generation partners. I'm from now on what we call an Of Counsel, basically a freelancer to the firm. I might do this a few more years, let's see.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2023, 06:07:07 AM
Real country.

https://youtu.be/VGR2nrq1hII

The fiddleress' role model was obviously Norma Jeane? And I mean the actress, Ms Mortenson, because of her platinum blond hair.

That said, there was also a C&W Norma Jean, I didn't know! Dave (that ole Nashville curator) must have though, I guess she even qualifies under his stern, discerning look as real country ... Or is that too Bluegrass already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q8Jf6OR-j8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on May 17, 2023, 07:09:14 AM
Real country.

https://youtu.be/VGR2nrq1hII

Well that was fun! Two things I never developed a taste for.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 17, 2023, 07:12:27 AM
I have most of her 60s stuff. She's better known as Pretty Miss Norma Jean (even now in her mid-80s) b/c that's how Porter Wagoner usually introduced her. She's no longer performing but she still makes occasional appearances at Heart of Texas Music Association events. She left Porter's show to get married, that's when he hired a young Dolly.

Porter's show was as real as it gets. Syndicated and taped, but all the performances were done live.

The early years were sponsored by Black Draught Laxative and Cardui tonic for women. Here's an early performance.

https://youtu.be/z_jFIJbWxxQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 17, 2023, 07:42:36 AM
I listen to music while working, that is the secret. It helps me concentrate. I know that sounds weird, but (wo)man is a creature of habit. When I do work (and most of my work is either writing or reading unless I'm in a video conference call), I get distracted by the natural sound ambience of a quiet room if there is no music running (I see dead people ... hear things!).. And I often do power play, like several albums of one artist, currently  abox of remastered King's X which never did much for me, but I'm finally getting the hang of it!

That said, retirement is almost fully here. As of this month, I'm an officially retired partner of Clifford Chance. I'm turning 63 this year and with CC - it's part of the package every partner buys into - by the end of fifty at the latest "succession discussions" commence, the iceberg needs to melt at the top to make room for younger generation partners. I'm from now on what we call an Of Counsel, basically a freelancer to the firm. I might do this a few more years, let's see.
 


 I'm happy to hear that you'll be making some changes soon, no doubt you've earned the time, congratulations! Enjoy that house by the lake and get the basses out of storage, join a "Dad band"!
 I may be travelling to Europe again in 2025, still in preliminary planning stages.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 17, 2023, 10:26:10 AM
I have most of her 60s stuff. She's better known as Pretty Miss Norma Jean (even now in her mid-80s) b/c that's how Porter Wagoner usually introduced her. She's no longer performing but she still makes occasional appearances at Heart of Texas Music Association events. She left Porter's show to get married, that's when he hired a young Dolly.


Ah, another one of Dave's Prom Night heartthrobs then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 17, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
Ah, another one of Dave's Prom Night heartthrobs then.

I did have a bit of a crush on her back then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 18, 2023, 06:51:07 AM
How I know you.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on May 18, 2023, 07:39:06 AM
I have most of her 60s stuff. She's better known as Pretty Miss Norma Jean (even now in her mid-80s) b/c that's how Porter Wagoner usually introduced her. She's no longer performing but she still makes occasional appearances at Heart of Texas Music Association events. She left Porter's show to get married, that's when he hired a young Dolly.

Porter's show was as real as it gets. Syndicated and taped, but all the performances were done live.

The early years were sponsored by Black Draught Laxative and Cardui tonic for women. Here's an early performance.

https://youtu.be/z_jFIJbWxxQ

What the heck guitar is that guy playing?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 18, 2023, 08:21:49 AM
That song was incredibly catchy, yet weird, a huge hit in Germany 1970. Sort of a demonic Shocking Blue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na_EBk0srHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IseoYP6oR_M

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 18, 2023, 08:33:53 AM
Now that is rare: Ian Hunter without shades and playing bass (with what looks like a very exhausting mostly down strokes picking "technique" if you can call it that ...) - in his Hamburg Star Club days and pre-Mott the Hoople.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALwEaH-tlU&t=62s

The new album, aptly called Defiance Pt. 1,  kicketh the proverbial butt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIJ7VxR0Fn0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 18, 2023, 04:31:53 PM
What the heck guitar is that guy playing?

Not sure, maybe an early Gretsch Firebird.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 19, 2023, 02:43:05 AM
I listen to music while working, that is the secret. It helps me concentrate. I know that sounds weird, but (wo)man is a creature of habit. When I do work (and most of my work is either writing or reading unless I'm in a video conference call), I get distracted by the natural sound ambience of a quiet room if there is no music running (I see dead people ... hear things!)..

Same for me. I remember my parents never understood why I had music on when I had to learn for school. I needed the music to focus. Otherwise I would be distracted by any other noise.

And I often do power play, like several albums of one artist, currently  abox of remastered King's X which never did much for me, but I'm finally getting the hang of it!

Ah finally. Kings X are great.  Dug Pinnick is an amazing singer and bass player. And the harmony vocals of Kings X are beautifully Beatlesque.


That said, retirement is almost fully here. As of this month, I'm an officially retired partner of Clifford Chance. I'm turning 63 this year and with CC - it's part of the package every partner buys into - by the end of fifty at the latest "succession discussions" commence, the iceberg needs to melt at the top to make room for younger generation partners. I'm from now on what we call an Of Counsel, basically a freelancer to the firm. I might do this a few more years, let's see.

Wow! Congratulations!
I'm a bit jealous now. I have to continue for another 12 or 13 years ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on May 19, 2023, 06:16:51 AM
I listen to music while working, that is the secret. It helps me concentrate. I know that sounds weird, but (wo)man is a creature of habit. When I do work (and most of my work is either writing or reading unless I'm in a video conference call), I get distracted by the natural sound ambience of a quiet room if there is no music running (I see dead people ... hear things!).. And I often do power play, like several albums of one artist, currently  abox of remastered King's X which never did much for me, but I'm finally getting the hang of it!

That said, retirement is almost fully here. As of this month, I'm an officially retired partner of Clifford Chance. I'm turning 63 this year and with CC - it's part of the package every partner buys into - by the end of fifty at the latest "succession discussions" commence, the iceberg needs to melt at the top to make room for younger generation partners. I'm from now on what we call an Of Counsel, basically a freelancer to the firm. I might do this a few more years, let's see.

Congrats!  It's not as easy as you might think.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 19, 2023, 08:53:13 AM
At this point, it feels a bit weird, like being marooned at some vacation destination.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 19, 2023, 12:36:41 PM
I reported to two different directors at my last job - and usually they both let me go my own way.  I got a new director on one side and thought I was doing OK, but in a Friday meeting he gave me feedback that told me clearly that I wasn't reading him or understanding his style. The other director was usually good with me running things the way I thought best, but was doing some things to one of my staff members that I felt were thoughtless.

I went home, talked it over with my wife, and decided that the first director didn't need to irritate me any more, and I didn't need to irritate him. He was a "new wave" guy who I respected and supported, but it was clear that I wasn't the right guy for him.

On Monday I presented my letter of resignation effective in two months, the day before my 69th birthday.  I thought retirement was a pretty nice birthday gift. 

And on the Friday after I retired, I threw a party for friends, colleagues and neighbors at our lakeside picnic area.  Had a very nice time and that kind of put a party cap on the week.  And I haven't regretted it for one microsecond.  Retirement is nice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 19, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
Retirement is nice. But we’ve since taken on the role of care givers and look after my mother-in-law.
It’s given me much more time to actually spend playing. And I take advantage of that.
It’s not hard to keep busy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 20, 2023, 06:40:26 AM
Jack Bruce's FB page announced that Pete Brown passed away last night. He was Jack's co-writer on so many Cream songs and Theme for an Imaginary Western. RIP.

https://youtu.be/du6QgObRk3s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 20, 2023, 12:54:15 PM
A great loss.  It's hard to imagine what Cream would have been like without Pete Brown's lyrics. 

https://youtu.be/SAmSuY-Gdig
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 22, 2023, 03:54:35 PM
https://www.facebook.com/bluesfolk.roots/videos/626082176243480

https://www.facebook.com/bluesfolk.roots/videos/626082176243480

Link to a Facebook video of a friend , I think this was shot in Ottawa last weekend. Garrett usually plays guitar , but does play a few songs on bass. He’s using a capo , and doesn’t use common technique , he’s a unique thing. Garrett is off on a two month tour right now and we miss having him around the favourite dive downtown. Just a low budget tour of him solo , he’s driving right across the country. Couple amps and guitar, couple changes of clothes. Driving by himself.
He’s the son of Dutch Mason , who was somewhat of a Canadian legend.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 22, 2023, 04:03:23 PM
Well , that link doesn’t seem to work. Here’s a YouTube clip Garrett did a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpDtoZ3sOos
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 22, 2023, 05:55:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/bluesfolk.roots/videos/626082176243480

https://www.facebook.com/bluesfolk.roots/videos/626082176243480

Link to a Facebook video of a friend , I think this was shot in Ottawa last weekend. Garrett usually plays guitar , but does play a few songs on bass. He’s using a capo , and doesn’t use common technique , he’s a unique thing. Garrett is off on a two month tour right now and we miss having him around the favourite dive downtown. Just a low budget tour of him solo , he’s driving right across the country. Couple amps and guitar, couple changes of clothes. Driving by himself.
He’s the son of Dutch Mason , who was somewhat of a Canadian legend.

He’s obviously a Colin Hodgkinson fan!

https://youtu.be/xvcaQfQ8h7M

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 22, 2023, 06:32:26 PM
I’d bet that Garrett has never heard of Hodgkinson , but there’s certainly stylistic similarities. Garrett usually plays every Tuesday night in my favourite dive downtown. I do the Sunday blues jam there. And have for over twenty five years.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 22, 2023, 08:25:04 PM
https://youtu.be/EWKi1BPyZPo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 23, 2023, 04:10:29 AM
They played a lot of things just a bit too fast , but I loved Rockpile. For many years was in a nice little rock&roll band that covered a lot of their book.
The dance floor would be filled from the first song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 23, 2023, 06:15:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlpETyqweE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 23, 2023, 06:33:54 AM
I’d bet that Garrett has never heard of Hodgkinson , but there’s certainly stylistic similarities. Garrett usually plays every Tuesday night in my favourite dive downtown. I do the Sunday blues jam there. And have for over twenty five years.

I thought about that too, Hodgkinson is very much a European phenomenon and his only US exposure was via the Neil Schon/Jan Hammer project which I do not believe made too many Journey fans thoroughly happy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpEUR6QeFtI

Personally, I think Hodgkinson's novelty bass strumming/baritone-guitar-tuned-even-lower style is very much an acquired taste*** (and of limited usage unless you're playing without guitar; it's something he does in his solo spots with whoever he's playing), I like what Garrett does a lot better.


***I kinda think, what's the point, if you played the same stuff on a real guitar it would sound better/more natural.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on May 23, 2023, 07:36:57 AM
He’ll just do a couple of bass songs in a set , so it’s a nice change. He usually tunes things down to D so he often keeps a capo on the second fret.(He does play bass like he plays guitar) The thumb pick is a fairly new thing , he normally is just a finger player on guitar.
Lovely guy , he’s missed in the old dive we call The Land of Dreams. (Or LoD)
We live in a pretty remote area so few touring acts bother to come up this way. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 23, 2023, 12:43:49 PM
Here's 30 minutes of a concert that I saw last friday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BohbrSz3_v8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 24, 2023, 04:37:49 AM
Paul Weller is great. Wonderful, understated, Brit music. He's obviously limited as a singer, but his voice engulfs you in intimacy.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 24, 2023, 11:31:29 AM
A classic. To hell with it, I liked (and like) Phillysound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDA-CBxiKI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 24, 2023, 12:50:54 PM
Great number, 80ies sound and all …

https://youtu.be/7a6hu6Z7Pkg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 24, 2023, 07:55:07 PM
https://youtu.be/GzF0AETdRF8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 25, 2023, 10:11:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRZIzs9pE5o

The bass and sax players are fantastic!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on May 25, 2023, 10:50:37 AM
My mother-in-law attended that show. She's a fan and exactly the same age as Tina (then 69). And needless to say she was impressed by the high energy of Tina.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on May 25, 2023, 02:46:09 PM
RIP Tina. A legendary performer. Powerful, charismatic, beautiful. She was larger than life and I just assumed she'd live forever.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 26, 2023, 04:53:52 AM
Another Swiss band i have encountered by accident.  Hillbilly Moon Explosion.  They are based in Zurich.  It's hard to get a grasp of them just by listening to a few songs.  Because their style covers several genres.  They're not wildly famous, though, it seems and still would have to be classified as underground as far as I can tell.  I like this cover of "Call Me" better than the original.  Of course I was never a Blondie fan, although I always thought they were okay.  The HME lead singer is Italian-Swiss, BTW.

After watching the band's videos a little more, I thought there is one thing I need to add. Sometimes they have a guest vocalist with a very gruff and deep voice.  Exactly why they choose to do this, I really don't know.  I don't think it adds anything to the music.  But he isn't part of the actual band.  To me it ends up being a little quirky, but I think it's safe to say a number of rockabilly bands are quirky.  Wikipedia describes HME as European rockabilly with a mix of rock and roll, jump blues, roots rock, surf music elements, etc.  They've been around for a while.  They opened for Jeff Beck in 2010, one of the earliest references I've seen.  I'm just giving info I've run across.  Personally, I seriously doubt I would even be able to adequately explain the difference between psychobilly and rockabilly. 


https://youtu.be/zBqB45Z_-cM
https://youtu.be/CdhnM3sbhRw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 26, 2023, 04:38:35 PM
Luuuv that song ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P97m0r9r8Qk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ4PdCrLggo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on May 27, 2023, 10:26:50 PM
It's a cool song, but must have been played billions of times on American radio in the 1970s.  After a while, it became a little mind-numbing because it seemed to be on almost every time you turned on the radio.  It is intriguing, though, the idea of Brandy in that song.  Maybe not quite so appealing as Molly in "Whiskey in the Jar."  This is despite the fact that Molly was ultimately bad news. 

https://youtu.be/9MNdOCQYOL8

https://youtu.be/tu5voeIiNxM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 28, 2023, 09:19:38 AM
I like songs that tell a little story.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on May 28, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
I like songs that tell a little story.

This is one of my absolute favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOCZwKmjR6E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 28, 2023, 10:43:04 PM
Single from Glen's new album, Consequences Coming, which was released in late April.

https://youtu.be/bBpU3VhJ4Q8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 29, 2023, 08:00:32 AM
Yup, have it on order. His last two were good too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 29, 2023, 09:38:04 AM
 I have to thank Rob for this as it was in my FB feed under his name, Nuno is still damn cool!


https://youtu.be/gYQ6MIjoY_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 30, 2023, 07:06:30 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/cR7Aidl4FEcAAAAj/beavis-and-butthead-headbanging.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwWAQnFJQYI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 30, 2023, 10:55:35 PM
Relatively obscure Box Tops record that I've always liked.

https://youtu.be/TcpmFIWGnkA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 31, 2023, 02:12:08 AM
Dave and his teenage lust songs about adolescent sex practices.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 31, 2023, 07:59:44 AM
Dave and his teenage lust songs about adolescent sex practices.  :rolleyes:
     


I'm glad to be innocent of such things!   :gay:   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on May 31, 2023, 09:26:12 AM
You basically invented the concept of innocence, Mark.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on May 31, 2023, 12:48:09 PM
Dave and his teenage lust songs about adolescent sex practices.  :rolleyes:

I was in my 20s when it came out, and a certain woman was in the process of tightening her grip on me.  :mrgreen:  No, not the one with the Che poster on her fridge, that was a blind date that mercifully led nowhere.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on May 31, 2023, 01:05:57 PM
You basically invented the concept of innocence, Mark.
   


  :-*     I'm going to come visit you again!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 01, 2023, 08:07:52 AM
That's why I love Dylan. Going boldly with his own oeuvre where no man had dared to go before. It's art, but not as we know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvudrqf-XwY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 01, 2023, 08:14:48 PM
That's why I love Dylan. Going boldly with his own oeuvre where no man had dared to go before. It's art, but not as we know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvudrqf-XwY

https://youtu.be/ak_Z_5EQi4Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 01, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
Another old favorite on the playlist today. Not on the album, but it was the flip side of the single of Eli's Coming.

https://youtu.be/KIM9BtSTCP8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 02, 2023, 07:40:41 AM
https://youtu.be/ak_Z_5EQi4Q

Yes, but he invented it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 02, 2023, 08:52:54 PM


 Glenn Hughes @70 jfc, he's killin' it!


https://youtu.be/B48PtAxs-d8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 03, 2023, 06:42:38 AM
For someone his age, his decades-long coke addiction history, a heart attack and two artificial knee joints, his vocal prowess and gung-ho bass playing is a friggin' wonder of nature.

And he really captures that MK III sound well (save for, naturally, Coverdale's baritone co-lead vocals), I‘ve seen that line up of his band, the Danish guitarist Søren Andersen does a great Ritchie.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 03, 2023, 09:02:38 PM
https://youtu.be/QuP7MWhQs6U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 05, 2023, 08:31:19 AM
One half of Slade ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93MGfpi1jE

It's kind of wasteful to use Jim Lea as an underplaying lead guitarist rather than as an overplaying lead bassist, but his solo is fine. It's a good cover though they add nothing new.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 05, 2023, 10:12:14 PM
Boston's Scruffy The Cat, fronted by the late Charlie Chesterman

https://youtu.be/Fib8ULp3i2k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 06, 2023, 07:13:00 AM
RIP Astrud Gilberto

https://youtu.be/soWqSb5FZZg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 06, 2023, 11:48:37 AM
Damn that sucks. She was amazing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 06, 2023, 02:31:35 PM
That song always had something otherworldly to it. Very interesting composition.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 06, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
Proper rock music with the bass doing, what it does best, namely lead:

https://youtu.be/HFU5vawwUJk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on June 07, 2023, 07:26:49 AM
Damn that sucks. She was amazing.

Agreed. RIP
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 08, 2023, 06:48:21 AM
Astrud Gilberto: no autotune, no melisma, no fake gravelly voice, no exaggerated stage movements, no flashing lights and explosions. Just hitting all the right notes and sounding great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 08, 2023, 06:49:08 AM
Randy Travis covering Brook Benton

https://youtu.be/SNKrBQCzQOI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 08, 2023, 06:49:21 AM
Astrud Gilberto: no autotune, no melisma, no fake gravelly voice, no exaggerated stage movements, no flashing lights and explosions. Just hitting all the right notes and sounding great.

Yup. Angelic.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 10, 2023, 09:25:26 AM
Fogerty a few weeks ago, first talking about his rediscovered Rick, then showing his voice is still good.


https://youtu.be/JWnVzE4FJvc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on June 10, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
Fogerty a few weeks ago, first talking about his rediscovered Rick, then showing his voice is still good.


https://youtu.be/JWnVzE4FJvc

And he recently turned 78. I'd like to have his vitality at that age.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 11, 2023, 09:03:05 PM
A much older Buck Owens singing his first No. 1 hit from 1963. Buck never had a Top 10 hit after Don Rich died in 1974.

https://youtu.be/3Eev0xt1AwA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2023, 09:13:24 AM
Holländer, I do have the new Extreme album now. And, yeah, it's a good one, memorable tunes too, a dying art these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_b5nytSWA

Yeah, I'm still a sucker for a good AOR tune.

That said, Rob, do tell your friend Nuno to cut back on listening to Brian May that much, PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO NOTICE !!!  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2023, 09:18:15 AM
Fogerty a few weeks ago, first talking about his rediscovered Rick, then showing his voice is still good.


https://youtu.be/JWnVzE4FJvc

Saw him during the pandemic at an open air, yup, his voice is still good. He's turned his show into a family revue, one of his sons is his lead guitarist (and looks and plays like he would be more comfortable in a neo-hair metal band  ;D ), another one has more of a C&W tinge and gets called to the stage to sing a song or two. Bit Johnny Cash & Carter Family'ish.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 13, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
do tell your friend Nuno to cut back on listening to Brian May that much, PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO NOTICE !!!  :o

He's been doing that for thirty odd years. Brian May and Eddie Van Halen.
He never made it a secret that he idolises the two.

I'm a bit disappointed by the album really. The first three singles were impressive. But there's too many weak whining songs on the album... YMMV
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 13, 2023, 12:36:17 PM
Holländer, I do have the new Extreme album now. And, yeah, it's a good one, memorable tunes too, a dying art these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_b5nytSWA

Yeah, I'm still a sucker for a good AOR tune.

That said, Rob, do tell your friend Nuno to cut back on listening to Brian May that much, PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO NOTICE !!!  :o

Sorry if this has been posted here, but this interview with Nuno was really great.  He's a total music geek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYpKg6HR1z8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2023, 01:37:45 PM
He's been doing that for thirty odd years. Brian May and Eddie Van Halen.
He never made it a secret that he idolises the two.

I'm a bit disappointed by the album really. The first three singles were impressive. But there's too many weak whining songs on the album... YMMV

Too power-poppy for you, not enough black, I should have figured!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 13, 2023, 02:01:58 PM
Colour of skin has nothing to do with it.
I just don't care for the girlie stuff.

And if they were convinced they were strong songs they would have chosen one of these for the first three singles, wouldn't they?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2023, 04:24:32 PM
I dunno, they seem to have a chip on their shoulder with catchy melodic stuff ever since they were accused of selling out with More Than Words, that became a real albatross around their neck. It's the Styx with Babe, Scorpions with Winds of Change, Mr Big with To Be With You or Manic Street Preachers with Everlasting syndrome.

None of those songs were bad or overly contrived, yet they all suffered the fate of being overplayed and pigeonholing the respective act forever. But people like ballads, that is just a fact of life.

I've never had issues with ballads/'girlie songs' or overtly melodic stuff. I can listen to Black Sabbath and then switch to Beach Boys or Bee Gees, no problem. I have really hidden, deep and dark guilty pleasures!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I_muEBZPvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0xQkk9kbc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 14, 2023, 08:40:26 PM
Holländer, I do have the new Extreme album now. And, yeah, it's a good one, memorable tunes too, a dying art these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_b5nytSWA

Yeah, I'm still a sucker for a good AOR tune.

That said, Rob, do tell your friend Nuno to cut back on listening to Brian May that much, PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO NOTICE !!!  :o
   


 I like everything about this song - except the bass, the playing is proficient but not present in the mix, and to my ear doesn't serve the song very well. Sometimes the money frets are your friend. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 14, 2023, 10:26:05 PM
One of the last recordings with the original line-up.


https://youtu.be/6NuNlas-ttU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 16, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
https://youtu.be/oCX--0wJQkQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on June 19, 2023, 07:48:12 PM

I've never had issues with ballads/'girlie songs' or overtly melodic stuff. I can listen to Black Sabbath and then switch to Beach Boys or Bee Gees, no problem. I have really hidden, deep and dark guilty pleasures!  :mrgreen:


Yup, guilty pleasures you have. Even listening to those girlie Black Sabbath guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa4bq_Lj0mg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 19, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
I'll have to check that out.  I always love this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqjify__PWw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 19, 2023, 09:15:41 PM
Or this here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YXIXp9zJs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 20, 2023, 01:24:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqhrIXj0wEI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on June 20, 2023, 03:31:15 PM


 Not growing up.........

https://youtu.be/swuOik4GZXw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 20, 2023, 03:33:22 PM

 Not growing up.........

https://youtu.be/swuOik4GZXw

Loosely related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQKyMZ8gsPI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2023, 04:40:19 AM
Oh please, NYC burrough man!!! Only originals here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln31raI2ezY

Plastic Bertrand/Roger Jouret was/is a Belgian musician who wrote the song in 1977. UK punks - The Damned among them - loved it, I always preferred the snotty French of the original.

They probably nicked not just the music, but the title too, David Johansen and his boys/girls were regarded as deities in the UK in the Punk Summers of 1976/77. (After having been slaughtered by the same music press three years before, go figure.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbd-BcuPvLA

That said, I've always liked The Damned. More relatable to me than either the over-hyped Sex Pistols or the mock-stern The Clash who pretended to have invented message rock. Vanian's voice always reminded me of Jim Morrison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr_QMO2oaPY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2023, 05:23:50 AM
When Herr Kilmister still sang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrJ9oeuN_9o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 21, 2023, 05:53:46 AM
Oh please, NYC burrough man!!! Only originals here

Haha.  But I like the Damned version.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 21, 2023, 12:12:14 PM
The original was not sung by Roger Jouret, but by Lou De Pryck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVsgyvGXhpw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on June 21, 2023, 12:59:38 PM
Good to see Lou getting the recognition and fun with adult entertainers that he deserves.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2023, 03:13:10 PM
Danke, Rob, now that I didn't know! A Belgian Frank Farian so to say.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2023, 03:47:40 PM
I always liked both songs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMZIg0btqMU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on June 21, 2023, 04:28:54 PM
Oooh, some of those mashups are great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57SNPbxi0r0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 21, 2023, 11:09:48 PM
Danke, Rob, now that I didn't know! A Belgian Frank Farian so to say.

Exactly. Boney M / Milli Vanilli avant la lettre.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 22, 2023, 08:50:09 AM
Something different from Texas-born, Mexico-based Joe Teutsch, a/k/a Joe King Carrasco.

https://youtu.be/OZuQjn93Sqg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 22, 2023, 01:14:29 PM
Mexican Ska? You live and learn.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 22, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Tex-Mex music has been around at least as long as ska.

Anyway...saw this pic in my FB feed. Nick Lowe, Wanda Jackson and Elvis Costello, taken last night. Holy crap! Nick Lowe has turned into Orville Redenbacher!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 22, 2023, 07:36:47 PM
Real (Black) Country.

With a guest from Walsall, no less.

(https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/dyGk9kpTURBXy85ZGIxNDcxODc5ZTFkOGM2NzFmM2RiYTU2MDI3NWVlNi5qcGeSlQLNAxQAwsOVAgDNAvjCw94AAaEwBg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NqIAAOSwva5hCtex/s-l1600.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQTM3Dwpk0I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on June 23, 2023, 08:05:43 AM
Tex-Mex music has been around at least as long as ska.

Anyway...saw this pic in my FB feed. Nick Lowe, Wanda Jackson and Elvis Costello, taken last night. Holy crap! Nick Lowe has turned into Orville Redenbacher!
LMAO!!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 26, 2023, 10:04:30 PM
https://youtu.be/1cWWSO41PGE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 27, 2023, 06:17:18 AM
They're all Krauts in ze äüdience!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 27, 2023, 07:08:38 AM
They're all Krauts in ze äüdience!

Who else would you expect to find in Köln?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 27, 2023, 07:25:31 AM
Why, Japanese and Chinese tourists of course!

(https://www.deutschland.de/sites/default/files/styles/image_carousel_mobile/public/media/image/china-germany-tourism-travel-holiday.jpg?itok=vuE7EiHU)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 27, 2023, 07:33:45 AM
And a few Limburgers most likely
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 27, 2023, 08:20:28 AM
We're not letting them in anymore.

(https://www.ingenieur.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2014/4194_2013-gab-es-in-Deutschland-830.000-Kilometer-Stau.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on June 27, 2023, 08:27:35 AM
Okay, dann gibt es in Venlo ab Heute auch keine Zigaretten und Kaffee (und Drogen) mehr für unsere Nachbarn.

(https://venlovanbinnen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_1345.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on June 27, 2023, 10:03:43 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Unrelated, I just leave this here, to be ignored as usual by you all. Très Kraftwerk and intentionally so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzVYV1NgpsE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on June 28, 2023, 09:14:06 PM
I am, of course, familiar with the Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds versions of the song, but I diidn't know until today that Status Quo had also done the song.  SQ has such a steady sound with their music. 

https://youtu.be/Ks-ZEDf7tI8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on June 30, 2023, 07:03:55 PM
https://youtu.be/QJ5erI-qobY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 05, 2023, 07:12:44 AM
Not what I would have expected.

https://youtu.be/O7TEkRRC9eE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on July 05, 2023, 07:20:25 AM
Not what I would have expected.

https://youtu.be/O7TEkRRC9eE

Two things I wouldn't have expected there.  Rick playing AC/DC and Rick playing drums.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 05, 2023, 01:17:06 PM
Man, The Osmonds have really aged:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtFf8Ovx5go

And BÖC alumni Albert Bouhard plays with them now too.

Honorary mention of the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXcj8dFOd1E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 05, 2023, 01:42:28 PM
Not what I would have expected.

https://youtu.be/O7TEkRRC9eE

Très lovely and I've heard countless less inspired versions. I was never one of his haters (he had a nice baritone) even though I loved Nick Lowe's epic rhyme about him "Do you remember Rick Astley, he had big fat hit, it was ghastly. He said I'm never gonna give you up or let you down, well, I'm here to tell ya that Dick's a clown!".  :mrgreen: ;D 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hzkBihaew
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 05, 2023, 05:23:49 PM
The Dictators had multiple influences.

https://youtu.be/m3rWCRyAVls
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on July 05, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlXYqCYz2r8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on July 05, 2023, 05:32:03 PM
For the record, Handsome Dick Manitoba is an incredibly nice guy.  He's a friend's kid's godfather.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 05, 2023, 09:25:19 PM
That's good to know. Always nice to hear, since there have been so many stories about well known musicians who act like jerks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 06, 2023, 05:59:47 AM
The Dictators, for all their ultimate commercial failure, were always a lovable bunch (basically, they were the Jewish New York Dolls minus the drag and the heroin). Ross the Boss was also the sanest guy in Manowar, though that is perhaps not saying a real lot given the field of competitors there.  :-X

But Handsome Dick's and Andy Shernoff's paths must have separated somewhere along the way, he's not a member of the current line-up. Albert Bouchard holding the sticks now is explainable via the fact that BÖC Svengali Sandy Pearlman managed and produced The Dictators in their Manifest Destiny era - and Albert is a quirky guy always happy to try something different.

The new lead vocalist, Kieth (sic!) Roth doesn't do a half-bad job, less bum notes than the still wonderful Handsome Dick too ...  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFfjivHXn8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on July 06, 2023, 06:32:19 AM
Excellent.  Too bad Kieth doesn't spell it as "Kief."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 06, 2023, 06:39:40 AM
The Dictators, for all their ultimate commercial failure, were always a lovable bunch (basically, they were the Jewish New York Dolls minus the drag and the heroin). Ross the Boss was also the sanest guy in Manowar, though that is perhaps not saying a real lot given the field of competitors there.  :-X

But Handsome Dick's and Andy Shernoff's paths must have separated somewhere along the way, he's not a member of the current line-up. Albert Bouchard holding the sticks now is explainable via the fact that BÖC Svengali Sandy Pearlman managed and produced The Dictators in their Manifest Destiny era - and Albert is a quirky guy always happy to try something different.

The new lead vocalist, Kieth (sic!) Roth doesn't do a half-bad job, less bum notes than the still wonderful Handsome Dick too ...  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFfjivHXn8

Ummm...that's Andy on bass in the video you posted. He's still very much a part of the band.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 06, 2023, 08:05:10 AM
Of course he is, where did I say he isn't (I meant Handsome Dick being no longer in the band)? He's the heart of the band (+ chief songwriter)! But these days he doesn't sing lead that often anymore (like on the Dictators debut), he later on let Handsome Dick sing more and more songs (though Andy has the more tuneful pop voice, but no rasp) and also reverted to keyboards for a while when future Twisted Sister Marc "Animal" Mendoza (not the Nugent/Whitesnake/Thin Lizzy/Dead Daisies/Journey guy) played bass for the 'Tators.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E0YEY9/jan-1-1970-the-dictators-E0YEY9.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABjVrJ3xg0

(That's what I meant with Handsome Dick and pitching live ...  :rolleyes: )


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 06, 2023, 09:21:57 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood. Without Andy, it really wouldn't be a legitimate Dictators.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 06, 2023, 12:58:21 PM
True.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 06, 2023, 02:31:44 PM
I'm going to see Rammstein tomorrow.

And to get in the mood I'm listening to this piece of German fine art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJgU9jkdU4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 06, 2023, 03:26:17 PM
Will you be Row Zero, dear Rob? Wear something nice!

https://www.side-line.com/rammsteins-row-zero-under-scrutiny-in-munich-but-what-is-the-row-zero-exactly/#:~:text=What%20exactly%20is%20'Row%20Zero,concert%2C%20right%20before%20the%20stage.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 07, 2023, 12:19:36 AM
Not even in the Feuer Zone.
Just among the Plebs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 07, 2023, 08:00:43 AM
Have fun at that stiff & relentless German Industriemusik event with dubious Third Reich/Leni Riefenstahl aesthetics


(https://www.zeitklicks.de/fileadmin/user_upload/epochen/nationalsozialismus/propaganda/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1982-1130-502__Nuernberg__Reichsparteitag__Lichtdom_01.jpg)


and lots of rrrolling "rrrr"s forrreverrr caught in their micro-universe of obsessive sociological taboo-breaking compulsions!!!  8)

I've never ever actually seen them, but I have all their albums - getting a ticket in Germany is always difficult, they sell out within hours online (and always play stadiums - I hate live music in stadiums and prefer small to midsize halls). Their drummer said something very perceptive once along the lines of: "Initially, we wanted to sound Anglo-American, funky and swinging, until we realized that we could never do that as well as the rock bands from there. What we can do, what's in us as Deutsche, is that straight, merciless German beat, essentially Marschmusik, German funk if you like."

They're really under fire (no pun intended) for Till Lindemann's emotionally desolate pre- and post-show groupie-herding here in Germany. There is even a criminal investigation underway (against him, not the band). I'm sitting on the fence regarding this. On one hand I think: In this day and age, with unlimited internet access, even as a 17-year-old, if you are recruited and invited to "row zero", asked to "dress sexy", "not bring any male friends" and then "join Till after the show at the hotel" you should have a grasp that sex will be part of the expected transactional currency (and I have no issues with girls or women doing that, you can have given Till a blowjob in his compartment under the stage as a far-out experience and still be a great mother or win a Nobel prize in physics in your later life). You should perhaps also have a semblance of understanding that it won't be necessarily the vanilla kind. (It's a bit like people bedding with Marilyn Manson for months and then complaining in the aftermath that - shock, gulp, horror! - "he wanted me to do weird things", perhaps they should have teamed up with John Denver instead.) BUT ON THE OTHER HAND: If there is intimidation and roofie drinks when people want to get off the fetish fantasy train because they feel uncomfortable, then that is crossing the line.

Anyway, have a spectacular experience, Holländer! (And don't go into that compartment underneath the stage or, if you do, at least don't regret it!!!)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 07, 2023, 08:25:11 AM
Rockabilly and country singer Bob Luman. He died unexpectedly of pneumonia at age 41 in 1978. I believe this appearance was not long before that.

https://youtu.be/IRtz_hTq48c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 08, 2023, 02:57:48 AM
they did not disappoint...

(https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/358610426_10231186392908195_8111218486073418103_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pcpBYENbieUAX9DolQD&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AfDsI5EjEtwd4OtpFomvZSdrrPmDMZke-_qUk8EXJ9u7EQ&oe=64AE11F9)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 08, 2023, 03:45:52 AM
I believe it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 08, 2023, 05:44:52 AM
Looks like Rotterdam '40.  :rimshot: But back then we didn’t do it on purpose.

Go to church, fall to your knees, repent if you please (rhyme Halford’s, not mine) and pray for deliverance from your carbon footprint, Holländer!  :mrgreen:

Would you share a few words about the music and the bass playing too with us?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 08, 2023, 07:26:34 AM
The music is exactly what you expect from Rammstein.
Überdeutsch. Teutonic. And Relentless.

Initially we found a spot in the middle with the stage on 12 'o' clock. Quite a distance from the stage because we literally walked in when the concert started.
The bass was horrible. An omni-present drone that lacked all definition and pushed away everything else in the mix.

About four songs in we decided to move more to the side. Better view and much better sound.
The bass was perfect in the mix. The bassist does exactly what he's supposed to do to lay down that industrial beat.

I know people look down on this type of bassist. But I actually admire this kind of player. They serve the song right. Don't draw attention to themselves.
I don't go to a Rammstein concert to hear a bassist trying to be Jaco or Rocco.  8)



https://youtu.be/0ynkkcW7ewE?t=2617
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: OldManC on July 08, 2023, 01:54:44 PM
In this day and age, with unlimited internet access, even as a 17-year-old, if you are recruited and invited to "row zero", asked to "dress sexy", "not bring any male friends" and then "join Till after the show at the hotel" you should have a grasp that sex will be part of the expected transactional currency (and I have no issues with girls or women doing that, you can have given Till a blowjob in his compartment under the stage as a far-out experience and still be a great mother or win a Nobel prize in physics in your later life).

Wait. He likes girls? I have never gotten anything but an uber-absolutely-not-straight vibe from that band (not that there's anything wrong with that). I guess you can learn something new every day!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 08, 2023, 03:25:31 PM
I don’t know about the others, especially not the introverted bassist, but Lindemann is straight in a warped way. To him, women are like countries, you invade and subjugate them, good German qualities. :mrgreen:

I admire the discipline of bassists like Cliff Williams, Ian Hill and the Rammstein guy, I could never do it. I only hang on to one note sometimes (while the guitarists and the keyboard change chords) to draw  attention to myself. :mrgreen: But when the band plays the recurring E, D, B break in the verse of It's Only Rock'n'Roll (But I like It), I play G#, A, B. Or in the chorus they do B, A, E, B, but I descend B, A, G#, F#. I like to do bass lines that either descend or climb. It also helps me remember them!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2023, 11:29:11 AM
Jon Maye posted this on FB because the bassist was playing a Hamer Standard. Never heard of this Dutch singer and his band before, looked 'em up. I like this.

https://youtu.be/mz7ZnsmZsBQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 09, 2023, 11:50:56 AM
Ah, our National Rock n Roll Junkie.

We recently discussed him in the Fat Bottomed Girls topic

https://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=6622.msg214315#msg214315
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2023, 12:06:59 PM
He's been mentioned and linked quite a bit here, Dave, repeatedly so and decades ago. You need to click on those links, they are not all Deep Purple-related!

https://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2050.0


Ooops …

https://youtu.be/FSk0sdG1RXQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 09, 2023, 12:26:56 PM
His (hit) song Saturday Night was even covered by Blackfoot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5cS-iOo0Xc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2023, 12:51:00 PM
Dave doesn't know who or what Blackfoot and Rick Medlocke are, Rob, sadly so. They are all consigned to his "stadium rock" waste bin.

Intricacies such as the connection to Uriah Heep escape him!

https://youtu.be/wawaF1uIod0

He's probably aware of Rick's pension fund day job though …

https://youtu.be/-OJv-LXY6IA

Medlocke, while never a member of the classic Skynyrd line-up that perished in part in the airplane crash, did drum (and rather busily so, he switched to lead guitar only later) on the original Free Bird version that also featured Ed King on guitar (and on Free Bird also on bass). In the pic, Medlocke is third from left.

https://youtu.be/tYj0Iczb98U

But I bet Dave has heard of Rick's grandfather Shorty Medlocke ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROSe31vV2s

Not a lot of grandpas out there who write songs for their grandsons to record with a Southern hard rock outfit ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPjVThtwWqo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2023, 01:28:08 PM
Of course I don't click all the links, any more than you do. If it looks like something I'm pretty sure I won't like, I'll pass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2023, 01:39:48 PM
Wrong, I pretty much click everything (unless it is Facebook related which is blocked on my office laptop), you might learn something after all (I often have). Might not always listen til the end, but initial curiosity always wins.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 09, 2023, 03:46:41 PM
Will you be Row Zero, dear Rob? Wear something nice!

https://www.side-line.com/rammsteins-row-zero-under-scrutiny-in-munich-but-what-is-the-row-zero-exactly/#:~:text=What%20exactly%20is%20'Row%20Zero,concert%2C%20right%20before%20the%20stage.

For Till's sake, I'm hoping he didn't invite the Miss Netherlands pageant winner to that row.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 09, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
Wrong, I pretty much click everything (unless it is Facebook related which is blocked on my office laptop), you might learn something after all (I often have). Might not always listen til the end, but initial curiosity always wins.

You might regret clicking on this. Cibo Matto in 1997 performing a live version of their 1995 recording. That's Sean Lennon on bass.

I can't explain why I liked them.

https://youtu.be/1MFpy-yw9G0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2023, 10:30:18 PM
That's Sean Lennon on bass.


https://youtu.be/1MFpy-yw9G0

In that case he's used to quite a bit from his maternal side. Adding this, can't have done much further harm. His first words as an infant were "Oh, no!" Alas!, his parents chose to mishear it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2023, 06:24:34 AM
Not real country of course, but it reveals that the Queen original through all the Brian May riffage owed a debt to C&W. And the ladies (going by the name of Remember Monday) have embellished it with harmonies you can only call 'lavish'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9noepvAOsQ

They're Brits btw.

The harmony work reminds me of these gals here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbXvaE39wM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYzwoZ0YwI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 10, 2023, 06:56:25 AM
In that case he's used to quite a bit from his maternal side. Adding this, can't have done much further harm. His first words as an infant were "Oh, no!" Alas!, his parents chose to mishear it.

Cibo Matto is definitely not like Yoko.

https://youtu.be/COMWwwv_MTk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 10, 2023, 06:57:42 AM
On to my more conventional tastes.

https://youtu.be/U78FZF7WrUo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2023, 07:22:51 AM
Nothing you do or say is ever conventional, Dave!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 10, 2023, 09:58:45 AM
The musical genius that is Jim Lea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKOnOP04F6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQWBjBgvPpw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 14, 2023, 09:15:08 AM
Obscure Brit bluesy hard rock from 1976 that started out promising, but then the Sex Pistols came along anyone?

Let me introduce you to Bandit then, whose 1976 debut

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CvIAAOSwyqNkbrFx/s-l1600.jpg)

I've been looking for on CD for ages, it has now become finally available on CD for the first time. Some of you might recognize the bassist. Or Kate Bush's husband. Or the singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGb-D-ZP6I

Find out more here: https://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=6622.msg214898#msg214898
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 16, 2023, 08:48:44 AM
Wow, that was great! Cliff looking like Chris Squire with those wizard sleeves. 😁 Dig that single P90 Les Paul. Really good rock and roll!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 16, 2023, 11:53:05 AM
That makes already two Bandit fans in the world, we're getting there!  :mrgreen:

They were slaughtered in the English music press at the time for being the epitome of unfashionable though (or because!) they were a not-quite-super-group of sorts (if you count in what they did in the aftermath too), James Litherland (the other guitarist) had been the co-founder of Colosseum, the drummer (Graham Broad) was with Roger Waters and Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings later on.

Their big break should have been opening for Paice Ashton Lord or PAL in 1977

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MRH0ouH2x0

but that fell literally flat on its face when Tony Ashton stumbled into an orchestra pit from a multi-level stage and PAL's lavishly financed attempt of bringing "Little Feat with horns"-type music to the UK masses ignited neither former Deep Purple nor Punk fans. PAL pulled the UK and European tour and never resumed it, dreams of America were discarded. Pity because I really liked their stuff though Tony Ashton wasn't a real singer, more a stage conferencier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaDCow-aLiw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 16, 2023, 08:12:00 PM
https://youtu.be/WM6l7twOfso
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 16, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
The most un-Chicago song by Chicago ever. Still great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 17, 2023, 01:22:02 PM
I of course knew the song, but I had never seen the vid, it's a hoot, Nazi fiends getting their a-SS-es royally stars & stripedly kicked (by T-6 Texans naturally) ... go, Patti Mae Andrzejewski, go!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZInRE-KryGA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 18, 2023, 06:58:23 AM
https://youtu.be/fjNm4Axtol8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 18, 2023, 07:36:46 AM
I of course knew the song, but I had never seen the vid, it's a hoot, Nazi fiends getting their a-SS-es royally stars & stripedly kicked (by T-6 Texans naturally) ... go, Patti Mae Andrzejewski, go!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZInRE-KryGA

What the heck is Judge Reinhold doing in a PT video?  :o At 00:59.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 18, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
https://youtu.be/fjNm4Axtol8

That was a mess.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 18, 2023, 09:17:43 AM
I've loved that tune ever since I first heard the Spencer Davis version with Steve Winwood.  Chicago's version is fantastic!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on July 18, 2023, 03:45:16 PM
That was a mess.

Ow yeah. Horrible.

First time on live tv? I think not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKQv715aJg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 19, 2023, 06:41:22 AM
What about their Europe-wide televised Rockpalast live gig on 19 April 1980? That established them in Germany and it was when they were still playing real trio music without backing tapes and drum machine enhancement. (Oh, I just saw that Rob made the same point. OTOH a filmed live gig is not the same thing as a live performance in a TV studio environment, those can go horribly wrong as they obviously did here.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEjgnkrttI

For me, ZZ Top peaked with Degüello (released 1979). I thought their 1980ies era gimmicky.

And btw: Trapeze want their 1974 riff back and played at the proper speed (at 00:18):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA--i-oDrEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM8DXBZv3vs

As for the Carson clip, the horn section was obviously under-rehearsed and missed a bar or two, not knowing where it was. Shit happens. The band was surprised and on TV not confident enough to actually wait a bar or two out to have everything in sync. The horn arrangement as such wasn't so bad, just in an alternative universe. Not sure whether backing tapes were used (by that time they employed them abundantly), Beard has earphones, but he might be listening to just a click. Of course, if a backing tape was running, that meant they couldn't sit a bar or two out to help the horn section catch up. Everything comes at a price.

This will probably get me bashed, but I think ZZ Top are one of the most overrated bands ever. I find very little trio ingenuity in them, give me Cream, Police, Robin Trower, UK, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, ELP, Rory Gallagher or Rush any day, they have all stretched the format. Much like the Ramones, ZZ Top have this cartoonish image that made them an international brand (mostly via their videos), but the music? There is nothing in it that REQUIRES them to be a trio (certainly not improvisational ambition or going off on tangents), it's just an image thing, like Sabbath or Ozzy operating without a visible keyboarder. I've seen ZZ Top live together with Status Quo. In terms of energy, Quo wiped the floor with them and they didn't use tapes to augment their sound either.

I also have issues with calling a band 'rootsy' that uses tapes as much as they do. If Muse feel they have to do it, ok (not that I like them, but their music is orchestral). With ZZ Top, I always wondered why. Sure, it would sound sparser live and they would have to decide more often what part to play and what to leave out, but that is the charm and the challenge of a trio.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on July 19, 2023, 07:23:43 AM
They were rolling with the times. MTV and synthesizers ruled the day for a while, and they got onboard. But I agree - Degüello was the end for me. I was not a huge fan to begin with, but I do really like the early stuff. Even as a young man, I found the sexual innuendo in some of their lyrics and song titles kind of cringe-y.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 19, 2023, 09:21:03 AM
Semenly so!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx0E4s4SbGA

There's a way to be sexist and fun and another one to be sexist and dumb.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on July 19, 2023, 11:05:10 AM
Tony Ashton comes across like a drunk cattle auctioneer in those videos. Sad to see Bernie Marsden as nothing more than a bit player there, as his vocal contributions are quite a bit better!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 19, 2023, 03:55:40 PM
Tony wasn't much of a singer and never professed to be. Lord and Paice shoehorned him into that role, I guess they wanted someone who sings totally un-Purple - they got that with Tony for sure, but he wasn't the guy to front a band in even a medium-sized hall, he was essentially a club musician, yet PAL was constructed around him. It took only a few gigs to realize that it wouldn't work out as planned though everyone who played with PAL is proud of the album and has fond memories making it.

On the studio album, all of Ashton's lead vocals are double-tracked with Bernie Marsden's co-lead vocals in the background (which can actually carry a melody while Tony Ashton more or less talks over the music).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmCtO9lSgDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ya-870eWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4kVy7EyRao


Marsden had actually quite a bit of influence on PAL as he had on early Whitesnake: strong writer, good singer, melodious guitarist, he wasn't just a sideman. He's the co-writer of Here I Go Again and Fool For Your Loving.

Jon Lord said in an interview at the time that he wanted PAL to sound like a mix between Little Feat and Elton John - for someone coming from a Deep Purple background (with fans reared on that type of music) that was perhaps a tad bit overambitious.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 19, 2023, 09:46:26 PM
Like Muse, ZZ Top reached a peak with their third album.  If you listen to Muse's Absolution and ZZ Top's Tres Hombres, you've heard about all you need to hear by either band.  You can't say that, for example, about a band like Cream.  Even after all these years, I still can't say what my favorite Cream album is. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 21, 2023, 06:04:01 AM

This will probably get me bashed, but I think ZZ Top are one of the most overrated bands ever. I find very little trio ingenuity in them, give me Cream, Police, Robin Trower, UK, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, ELP, Rory Gallagher or Rush any day, they have all stretched the format. Much like the Ramones, ZZ Top have this cartoonish image that made them an international brand (mostly via their videos), but the music? There is nothing in it that REQUIRES them to be a trio (certainly not improvisational ambition or going off on tangents), it's just an image thing, like Sabbath or Ozzy operating without a visible keyboarder. I've seen ZZ Top live together with Status Quo. In terms of energy, Quo wiped the floor with them and they didn't use tapes to augment their sound either.


I wouldn't call them one of the most overrated ever, but I agree that there was little ingenuity. OTOH people were (and still are) entertained by them, and that's worth something.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 21, 2023, 08:17:17 AM

This will probably get me bashed, but I think ZZ Top are one of the most overrated bands ever. I find very little trio ingenuity in them, give me Cream, Police, Robin Trower, UK, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, ELP, Rory Gallagher or Rush any day, they have all stretched the format. Much like the Ramones, ZZ Top have this cartoonish image that made them an international brand (mostly via their videos), but the music? There is nothing in it that REQUIRES them to be a trio (certainly not improvisational ambition or going off on tangents), it's just an image thing, like Sabbath or Ozzy operating without a visible keyboarder. I've seen ZZ Top live together with Status Quo. In terms of energy, Quo wiped the floor with them and they didn't use tapes to augment their sound either.


I wouldn't call them one of the most overrated ever, but I agree that there was little ingenuity. OTOH people were (and still are) entertained by them, and that's worth something.

I saw them before they had their beards and even before they released Tres Hombres.  It was pure, raw rock with no gimmicks at all.  It was
hard to tell who was more into the music--the crowd or the band itself. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 21, 2023, 12:20:27 PM
https://youtu.be/kK62tfoCmuQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on July 21, 2023, 12:35:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfEvgf2DdTQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 21, 2023, 03:56:23 PM
https://youtu.be/kK62tfoCmuQ

Hey, that‘s really live! Lovely version, danke.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 21, 2023, 04:21:09 PM
Duane Allman's guitar playing on this version is particularly good. 



https://youtu.be/6NuNlas-ttU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 21, 2023, 06:33:43 PM
https://youtu.be/kK62tfoCmuQ

Hey, I get to hear them play next month!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 21, 2023, 06:38:18 PM
Hey, I get to hear them play next month!

But without David Clayton-Thomas, right? Or has he rejoined? Regardless, I hope it turns out to be a great show.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 22, 2023, 10:44:49 AM
What about their Europe-wide televised Rockpalast live gig on 19 April 1980? That established them in Germany and it was when they were still playing real trio music without backing tapes and drum machine enhancement. (Oh, I just saw that Rob made the same point. OTOH a filmed live gig is not the same thing as a live performance in a TV studio environment, those can go horribly wrong as they obviously did here.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEjgnkrttI

For me, ZZ Top peaked with Degüello (released 1979). I thought their 1980ies era gimmicky.

And btw: Trapeze want their 1974 riff back and played at the proper speed (at 00:18):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA--i-oDrEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM8DXBZv3vs

As for the Carson clip, the horn section was obviously under-rehearsed and missed a bar or two, not knowing where it was. Shit happens. The band was surprised and on TV not confident enough to actually wait a bar or two out to have everything in sync. The horn arrangement as such wasn't so bad, just in an alternative universe. Not sure whether backing tapes were used (by that time they employed them abundantly), Beard has earphones, but he might be listening to just a click. Of course, if a backing tape was running, that meant they couldn't sit a bar or two out to help the horn section catch up. Everything comes at a price.

This will probably get me bashed, but I think ZZ Top are one of the most overrated bands ever. I find very little trio ingenuity in them, give me Cream, Police, Robin Trower, UK, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, ELP, Rory Gallagher or Rush any day, they have all stretched the format. Much like the Ramones, ZZ Top have this cartoonish image that made them an international brand (mostly via their videos), but the music? There is nothing in it that REQUIRES them to be a trio (certainly not improvisational ambition or going off on tangents), it's just an image thing, like Sabbath or Ozzy operating without a visible keyboarder. I've seen ZZ Top live together with Status Quo. In terms of energy, Quo wiped the floor with them and they didn't use tapes to augment their sound either.

I also have issues with calling a band 'rootsy' that uses tapes as much as they do. If Muse feel they have to do it, ok (not that I like them, but their music is orchestral). With ZZ Top, I always wondered why. Sure, it would sound sparser live and they would have to decide more often what part to play and what to leave out, but that is the charm and the challenge of a trio.

 I hadn't really thought about them much, or considered them as critically as you have Uwe, but O find myself agreeing with you, maybe in part because I never really connected with them in the way I did with say, Rush or Slade even. As far a live goes I'd respect them more if they just had a second guitarist/keyboard player to fill them out, either that or really just be a trio.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on July 22, 2023, 12:53:58 PM
Unlike a band such as Golden Earring, ZZ Top just kept doing the same kind of stuff over and over through the years.  Maybe it's because I'm such a fan, but I'm amazed, for instance, Golden Earring was able to make an album as good as "Tits 'n Ass" even up to the end.  ZZ Top never came close to doing that.  However, trying to market an album with a title like that isn't going to get you too far in the U.S., something Barry Hay and company didn't understand or just didn't care to understand.  Still, it's a good album. 

Based on what I've read and heard Billy Gibbons say, I think he is humble about ZZ Top, especially when it comes to the simplicity and repetitiveness of their music.  But since as @Dave W indicated some people are still interested in them, I can't blame ZZ Top for continuing.  Also, despite any flaws they may have, ZZ Top remains a unique band, IMO.  It's just too bad Dusty Hill didn't survive with the rest of them. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 22, 2023, 03:36:34 PM
But without David Clayton-Thomas, right? Or has he rejoined? Regardless, I hope it turns out to be a great show.

I understand that he is part of the group now.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 23, 2023, 08:16:51 AM
I understand that he is part of the group now.

That's good. Hard to imagine another vocalist.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 23, 2023, 01:49:17 PM
Nicely done...

https://youtu.be/P_8aZZ9d_EA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on July 23, 2023, 08:10:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFm98q4M3c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 24, 2023, 06:35:55 AM
I understand that he is part of the group now.

Unless that is incredibly recent news, I'd say better prepare for someone else! Their official website makes no mention of it (as it certainly would had he joined them for even a little tour or a single gig):

https://bloodsweatandtears.com/

DCT left BS&T in 2004 (when he moved from New York back to Canada), never to return so far. He still plays BS&T music under his own name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQab837r25I&t=42s

And he remains connected to the group because he and former drummer-turned-producer Bobby Colomby own the rights to the name (DCT might have relinquished them by now, but Colomby still owns the name), touring BS&T is today basically a franchise with alumni such as Steve Katz sometimes joining them for a few gigs. That is not to say that the current line up (not a single original member among them, but that is not saying much with BS&T who have - according to their own website - seen something like 175 (!) individuals go through their ranks over the decades!) are a bunch of slouches, they are not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRWo_N-VXU

I saw BS&T a couple of years ago in Germany at two summer gigs, one of them opening for Chicago, the other a few weeks later as headliners and even at those two gigs they had two different lead vocalists, one of them more "loungy", the other one younger and more "rocky" (he had been a vocal trainer of Vince Neil). Both were fine singers, but neither could get that idiosyncratic mix of  "lounge & rock" right that is/was DCT's trademark.

BST's history is unlikely + convoluted to say the least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdmk7zt0FIk

Good read here:

https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/what-the-hell-happened-to-blood-sweat-and-tears-review-david-clayton-thomas-1235565562/

And while I agree with Dave that DCT's stage presence was key for early BS&T's success, his successor Jerry Fisher (before DCT returned to the fold in 1974/75) was a great singer too (with three more than respectable BS&T albums under his belt), wonderful pipes, but a much more demure front man (that's Jerry LaCroix from Edgar Winter's White Trash playing the harp and sax btw, he also sang lead on some songs in that particular line up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D9xHFa8zgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo6wMXH35f8

There's people who actually prefer Jerry Fisher to DCT because the latter's pronounced guttural delivery is not to everyone's liking all the time (Al Kooper, whose brainchild the band was before he was ousted after the debut album by Colomby and other band members, could certainly contain himself about DCT's delivery style!  8)). In traditional rock singer terms, it is probably fair to say that Fisher's pure blues/soul voice offered less cheese ingredient than Thomas' vocals (but what's wrong with a little cheese, especially in a BS&T context?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZxVp6ubrA

That's not to say that DCT's early influences - James Brown anyone?! - were any less black than Fisher's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_wJJh6TJkg

Anyway, please report about the gig here, Most Honorable Brother Al, as the resident BS&T nerd here, I'm really curious. I'd love to see them again, their European appearances have become unfortunately rare.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 24, 2023, 09:22:18 AM
Will do, and thanks for the info!

I still remember seeing them when I was an undergrad (about 1969) at world-famous Washington State University; Clayton-Thomas was a big guy who looked like a fullback and sang with both power and presence.

Regardless of the lineup, it should be a fun evening in a botanic garden on a Colorado evening, probably around 78-80 degrees at show time.

And BTW, last night JoAnn and I went to Denver's Paramount theater to see John Lodge of the Moody Blues with his touring band. Their first set was a ramble through some of his better-known work both in and outside the Moodys, and a few deep cuts of his.  The second set was his band's version of the Days of Future Passed album (holy cow, 56 years since it came out!). 

At 80 Lodge still plays well, but his energy level is down. Not surprising. He is still playing his familiar Fender J bass. The keyboard player Alan Hewitt evidently has been with the Moodys for 15+ years and he's phenomenal. Covers the famous flute parts as well as the keyboard.  They have a cello player (Jason Charbonneau) who occasionally passes the music phrasing back and forth with the keyboards.  Having the cello adds a nice touch of the orchestral feel that Lodge and the Moodys have been famed for. Fortunately, today's keyboard emulations remove the need for a Mellotron on stage.

Some photos...

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 28, 2023, 10:29:29 PM
Latest upload to the Jack Bruce YT channel.

https://youtu.be/oMoxisWB9XE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 29, 2023, 09:32:30 AM
Hey, that's Carla Bley, right? I knew she was with Jack for a while, but I had only seen pictures, never a live recording vid. She plays a lot more conventional than I would have expected!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 29, 2023, 12:15:12 PM
Hey, that's Carla Bley, right? I knew she was with Jack for a while, but I had only seen pictures, never a live recording vid. She plays a lot more conventional than I would have expected!

It's either Carla Bley or Cousin Itt from the Addams Family.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 29, 2023, 02:49:08 PM
Dave, that is no way to comment on a lady, go wash your nasty mouth with soap - now!

Carla - like Patti Smith - defied female conventions, but was hot.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2BX1TBM/a-1983-posed-portrait-of-carla-bley-an-avant-garde-jazz-composer-pianist-and-proponent-of-free-jazz-2BX1TBM.jpg)

She and Steve Swallow are still an item - nice way to get old with each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE3GqMX2bQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6_SaUJ0yI

I like the way he solos. And her piano playing too. Quirky, but not heartless.

PS: Admittedly, there are slight similarities ...

(https://cdnmetv.metv.com/vXDqJ-1623678907-3600-blog-Addams%20Family%20expands.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 29, 2023, 05:13:36 PM
Punky's music has somewhat changed, but hey I like it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLaowxbQ-CM

(https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/images/thumb/9/99/Punk-meadows-pout.jpg/200px-Punk-meadows-pout.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 29, 2023, 05:45:05 PM
Punky's music has somewhat changed, but hey I like it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLaowxbQ-CM

(https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/images/thumb/9/99/Punk-meadows-pout.jpg/200px-Punk-meadows-pout.jpg)
   

 Well, that makes one of us!

It's a little cringy!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on July 29, 2023, 07:52:02 PM
Dave, that is no way to comment on a lady, go wash your nasty mouth with soap - now!

Carla - like Patti Smith - defied female conventions, but was hot.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2BX1TBM/a-1983-posed-portrait-of-carla-bley-an-avant-garde-jazz-composer-pianist-and-proponent-of-free-jazz-2BX1TBM.jpg)

She and Steve Swallow are still an item - nice way to get old with each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE3GqMX2bQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6_SaUJ0yI

I like the way he solos. And her piano playing too. Quirky, but not heartless.

PS: Admittedly, there are slight similarities ...

(https://cdnmetv.metv.com/vXDqJ-1623678907-3600-blog-Addams%20Family%20expands.jpg)

Yep. That's Cousin Itt, all right.  :mrgreen:

Carla Bley is talented, no doubt about. Hot? Not.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 30, 2023, 08:13:04 AM
Between us two, I'm just the one attracted to the more cerebral things, Dave, it shows in pretty much everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rhWwcl28Y

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 30, 2023, 08:16:13 AM
   

 Well, that makes one of us!

It's a little cringy!

Since when was cringe anathema to Angel?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb94sdt7xVw

Or as Bill Nelson of Be-Bop Deluxe after supporting Angel in the States once quipped: "Five people, all exactly dressed up like Freddie Mercury!"  :rimshot:

The new album is a pleasant listen though - thankfully, they are one American heavy rock band for once where you hear more of a  Deep Purple  than a Led Zep influence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvV8oW8oiuA

Seeing them today, they are more Spinal Tap'ish than ever and Punky must have spent all his royalties on cosmetic surgery - though it must have been a budget offer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMbtrq7Y96A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOpcmWt34S8

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 30, 2023, 02:26:32 PM
I'm not a Floyd diehard and Roger Waters sure can be a handful, but those versions have something in their starkness. When he sings them, I listen to the lyrics, when Gilmour sings them (no doubt the better singer), I just listen to the  melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JLN581QWxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVmeYgo1Iw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 31, 2023, 07:06:50 AM
Rick Springfield aka "Paul Ramone" (geddit?) pretending incognito he came from Liverpool and not Australia. Together with the Bissonette Brothers alias "Scotty & Skippy Skuffleton" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyo-Xge8slc&list=RDEMNJIhiOskBeZ_mGKXp-716g&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9dxs-To8f4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbnbda4U2Hk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on July 31, 2023, 08:30:03 AM
Since when was cringe anathema to Angel?  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb94sdt7xVw

Or as Bill Nelson of Be-Bop Deluxe after supporting Angel in the States once quipped: "Five people, all exactly dressed up like Freddie Mercury!"  :rimshot:

The new album is a pleasant listen though - thankfully, they are one American heavy rock band for once where you hear more of a  Deep Purple  than a Led Zep influence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvV8oW8oiuA

Seeing them today, they are more Spinal Tap'ish than ever and Punky must have spent all his royalties on cosmetic surgery - though it must have been a budget offer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMbtrq7Y96A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOpcmWt34S8
   

 G'ah! My ears!

 WTAF happened to that band?!  :sad:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on July 31, 2023, 01:14:19 PM
Somehow it has escaped me until now that Kenny Aaronson played with Dickey Betts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llBsswEfUsA

I always had him jotted down with Dust, Derringer, Billy Idol, Billy Squier and Bob Dylan. Great expressive player and a hoot to watch.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 01, 2023, 10:00:31 PM
https://youtu.be/xdA8EB5Oz6c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 02, 2023, 07:00:34 AM
Such a great band with a one-of-a-kind sound.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on August 02, 2023, 07:53:46 AM
Somehow it has escaped me until now that Kenny Aaronson played with Dickey Betts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llBsswEfUsA

I always had him jotted down with Dust, Derringer, Billy Idol, Billy Squier and Bob Dylan. Great expressive player and a hoot to watch.



 Awesome, Aaronson kicks butt!

"Jessica" is always associated with Top Gear (which Frank and I dearly love!)

 https://youtu.be/vcmfstKaQDo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 05, 2023, 11:48:01 PM
Another recent upload to the Jack Bruce channel. The accompaniment is not what I expected.

https://youtu.be/XeRmmWf7-mY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 06, 2023, 08:44:21 PM
https://youtu.be/zo0vBdlWQs0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 07, 2023, 08:56:52 AM
Another recent upload to the Jack Bruce channel. The accompaniment is not what I expected.

https://youtu.be/XeRmmWf7-mY

That's s fun clip!  I note that Jack was playing through Hartke amps.  I've had some Hartke gear and liked it just fine.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 07, 2023, 04:14:32 PM
That's s fun clip!  I note that Jack was playing through Hartke amps.  I've had some Hartke gear and liked it just fine.

Jack used Hartke gear for decades, he was one of the first users dating back to the mid-80s or whenever they were introduced. By the time of the 2005 Cream reunion concerts, he was using Hartke cabs with paper cones rather than aluminum.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 07, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
Rodney Crowell is 73 today.

https://youtu.be/KnqBH7jLb0I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on August 09, 2023, 09:55:07 AM
Never gets old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK2AqZtTlPw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 09, 2023, 02:29:04 PM
That's s fun clip!  I note that Jack was playing through Hartke amps.  I've had some Hartke gear and liked it just fine.

Celtic Cream (That sounds a bit like a Sottish dairy producer, doesn't it?), just lovely!

Nothing wrong with Hartke cabs at all. If you wanted a clean sound as most people in the 80ies did, they were perfect. If you're more for overdrive and distortion, the paper cones make more sense.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 10, 2023, 09:09:59 AM
The great late Herr California (= former one-off Deep Purple guitarist) plus other luminaries ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eOHu0rMqMI

I guess there is no death more worthwhile as a dad than while (successfully) saving your 12-year-old son. It's the way it should be. You can't bear it the other way around.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 10, 2023, 01:04:14 PM
It's all fake, but a labor of love. The Stranglers never covered Dave Brubeck nor did he write their Golden Brown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qs1J612nZs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 11, 2023, 02:28:13 PM
https://youtu.be/pLz6nIvqB2c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2023, 03:46:50 PM
Jim gets all Celtic and orchestral - with a dash of Beatles …

https://youtu.be/U_OylFd5fXc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 14, 2023, 10:21:40 AM
I really miss Don Felder in the Eagles. Granted, he's no Don Henley vocally (yet does a fine job here), but he plays his original parts like not even Steuart Smith and Joe Walsh (both of them no slouches) can emulate them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBlqVvZczIU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 15, 2023, 08:43:48 AM
A woman with ample talents.

https://youtu.be/mWDYAr45RnY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 15, 2023, 10:24:40 AM
All threads end in Deep Purple, inevitably so does this one, Dave (but I'm sure you had a premonition of that already):

(https://tpl.se/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/BarbiBentonAintthatjustthewayLP1.jpg)

(https://tpl.se/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/BarbiBentonAintthatjustthewayLP4.jpg)

(https://images.45cat.com/barbi-benton-take-some-and-give-some-and-leave-some-behind-1977.jpg)

Rare Sweden only album

Undoubtedly the most popular Playboy bunny of the 1970s, Barbi Benton. Her early albums featured a superb team of top notch Nashville session musicians to back her up. In 1975 she released a single called The Reverend Bob and it would be the B-side, Ain’t That Just The Way, that would become a major hit in Scandinavia, especially in Sweden, topping the Swedish singles chart for 10 weeks in 1977. It also topped the charts in Finland and reaching position 2 in Norway. Barbi released an album with the same name in 1978 and it was only released in Scandinavia.This time around it was not only the Nashville musicians that helped out. For the Ain’t That Just The Way album the label brought in a lot of guest to help out. Among them we find Deep Purple drummer Roger Glover and Whitesnake members David Coverdale and Mick Moody. The three of them wrote a track together called Up In The Air but Mick Moody worked on some more track while he also played guitar on the whole album while Roger Glover laid down some drums as well as taking over the job as producer for the album. The album in itself were much in style with her previous works with country pop gems and emotional ballads. For any rocker this is the most interesting of her albums as its topped with that bluesy guitar work from Mick Moody.

Track list:
1. Ain’t That Just The Way
2. It’s Hard To Say Goodbye (It’s Hard To Say Hello)
3. It’s A Long Way To Heaven
4. Up In The Air
5. Take Some And Give Some (And Leave Some Behind)
6. I Don’t Know If I’ll Ever Love Again
7. Isn’t It Always Love
8. One Step From Your Arms
9. Morning, Noon And Nightime
10. Close Your Eyes
11. Better Days


"Is the most evil thing you’ve actually done producing Barbi Benton, Roger?

I wouldn’t say that was evil. You know, as a producer in a studio, it doesn’t really matter what kind of artist you’re producing, it’s the same problem. And that problem is to create an atmosphere in the studio where an artist is comfortable and can perform to their best. That’s the only prime for a producer and how he does it.?Of course, different producers have different means, but that’s the main objective. And Barbi Benton was just something that came along and I was not doing anything else. Why not? Everything’s a challenge. Day by day, you never know what’s going to happen.

How did you get the gig? Did Hugh Hefner tempt you with an unholy threesome?

No, no. There was some connection with my manager at the time, Bruce Payne. I think we did a little tour with them with Cozy Powell. They had a bit of fun driving her and her people around in Scandinavia. I was just asked. BTW, she was a joy to have around and totally professional and committed in the studio."


Roger's soft rock (no, not what you were lecherously thinking!) rerecording of her 1975 song was actually the one that became the hit version in Sweden (Mo Foster on bass and Simon Phillips on drums, which makes Barbi PROG I guess):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9wkABemBo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 15, 2023, 01:09:54 PM
Fast Forward, Suzi is finally making age- and voice-appropriate music ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEetQ2usWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7YRiAK7f1Y

Tunstall's songwriting is so sympathetic to her, it's touching.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 16, 2023, 05:59:11 AM
I think Shine A Light is okay-ish.
But Truth As My Weapon is just dead boring... :-X
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 16, 2023, 08:08:28 AM
Such mild and supportive words from you of all people about Grandma Suzi - bedankt!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 16, 2023, 02:32:22 PM
Suzi doesn't really need my supportive words does she?  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 16, 2023, 04:34:05 PM
The dulcet tones of Shel Silverstein. Although I never heard this on the radio, I saw him sing and play it on Carson back in the day. Rare.

https://youtu.be/ksTGdke4Amo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 16, 2023, 10:28:01 PM
Gary Talley was lead guitarist of the Box Tops. Here he is with his 96 year old mother, just posted on August 13th. There are others on his YT channel.

https://youtu.be/cSJ0aqs9UKQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2023, 06:55:10 AM
Très cute!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2023, 07:12:43 AM
The dulcet tones of Shel Silverstein. Although I never heard this on the radio, I saw him sing and play it on Carson back in the day. Rare.

https://youtu.be/ksTGdke4Amo

Would have made a perfect Dr Hook number. Interestingly, both Ray Sawyer's (the eye-patch guy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0HEQ8WSuA
(BTW another Shel Silverstein number.)

and Dennis Locorriere's (the blue-eyed soul lead vocalist on most of Dr Hook's hits, Cover Of The Rolling Stone excepted) respective voices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGMiteDk910
(As is this one.)

showed elements of how Shel "sang" - it seems like they patterned their Dr Hook voices after him, they were both just technically better singers.

As a white harmony vocal duo Locorriere/Sawyer were vastly underrated. Dr Hook's spoof & anarchy image obscured how good they were as musicians. They and Shel Silverstein should have been inducted in the RRHoF long ago.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2023, 08:35:53 AM
Immaculate.

https://youtu.be/GDgqIyprGLM


If Ronnie Lane had slung his bass just a bit lower, he could have strummed it with his knees!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2023, 08:55:52 AM
Anybody like(d) Transvision Vamp here? Wendy had animal grace. Parts of me would have liked to be the microphone and, uhum, stand.

https://youtu.be/AXf-wHT_SCY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 17, 2023, 09:03:46 AM
Guilty pleasures, I know. I can't defend it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sypj3SPBKKU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 18, 2023, 04:01:06 PM
More Suzi - the Detroit gal honoring black music on her comparatively recent EP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boP3AWclRpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bH_PCLdM2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvZmlDGdq4

Not a first for her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZEy-2iztE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MnWdxb3psU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2023, 11:17:47 PM
Would have made a perfect Dr Hook number. Interestingly, both Ray Sawyer's (the eye-patch guy)
,,,

and Dennis Locorriere's (the blue-eyed soul lead vocalist on most of Dr Hook's hits, Cover Of The Rolling Stone excepted) respective voices

...

showed elements of how Shel "sang" - it seems like they patterned their Dr Hook voices after him, they were both just technically better singers.

As a white harmony vocal duo Locorriere/Sawyer were vastly underrated. Dr Hook's spoof & anarchy image obscured how good they were as musicians. They and Shel Silverstein should have been inducted in the RRHoF long ago.

I never thought of Dennis' voice as patterned after Shel's, but now that you mention it, I think you're onto something.

RRHoF? Maybe, but Shel wrote many country hits. Why not the CMHoF?

https://youtu.be/DBpeK9yaONQ

https://youtu.be/Qi_7aHNJ5sA

https://youtu.be/a-boKrl50o0

https://youtu.be/BMLP7vCEr4E

https://youtu.be/WOHPuY88Ry4

and a lesser known one I've always liked.

https://youtu.be/iSkKst_N4VE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 20, 2023, 03:26:33 PM
I never thought of Dennis' voice as patterned after Shel's, but now that you mention it, I think you're onto something.

RRHoF? Maybe, but Shel wrote many country hits. Why not the CMHoF?

Queen Of The Silver Dollar was first released by Doctor Hook on their second album Sloppy Seconds I believe, but you're right, Shel's songwriting art had country elements too. As had Doctor Hook. You will laugh about it, but in Germany Doctor Hook were referred to in the early 70ies as "country rock". That said, Shel has seen recognnition:

"Silverstein was posthumously inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2002.[41] Silverstein was inducted into the Chicago Literary Hall of Fame in 2014."

Queen Of The Silver Dollar is a great song, cinematic in its lyrical weight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpoTlgDPnLs

I don't believe that Dennis' and Ray's vocals were consciously patterned after Shel's demoed voice, but Dennis was only in his early 20ies when he met Shel almost 20 years his elder (even eye-patch-Ray was 12 years older than Dennis) and was according to his own words absolutely overawed by Shel's little everyday life stories and witty street humor. He felt honored to be allowed to sing those songs and probably just opted to sound as close as he could with his younger, more flexible voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 20, 2023, 04:43:01 PM
For some people, Grand Funk without Mark Farner is like - supposedly - Deep Purple without Ritchie, but I've got to say that I find this performance convincing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j60snFD-rbs

They basically never tour tour outside of their US home hunting ground, but I'd see them like this in a heartbeat if they ever came to Germany.

It's nice to see Bruce Kulick with a steady job - the best lead guitarist Kiss ever had.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 21, 2023, 11:11:27 AM
Good as they may be, the vocals here aren't even close to Mark Farner's.  They're still a good band, but I don't really think of them as Grand Funk. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 21, 2023, 11:40:01 AM
 :o But Farner never sang lead on this song...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 21, 2023, 01:10:01 PM
That doesn't matter.  In general, I don't like Grand Funk without Mark Farner regardless of the song or when it was sung or who sang it.  But songs like "i'm You're Captain/Closer to Home" and "Inside Looking Out" are among my favorites.  "We're An American Band" is one of my least favorites.  I won't go so far to say that it sucks, but compared to a number of other GFR songs, it's not particularly any good.  I mention it because it's one of the best known songs without Mark Farner singing.  To me the song isn't a good example of an American rock band at its best.   I'd rather hear Rob Zombie sing the song than Don Brewer.

https://youtu.be/Wzlky9Klu4I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 21, 2023, 01:42:01 PM
Ironically their most succesful song (at least in The Netherlands) is Some Kinda Wonderful. Which was also sung by Brewer.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on August 21, 2023, 02:22:09 PM
Ironically their most succesful song (at least in The Netherlands) is Some Kinda Wonderful. Which was also sung by Brewer.  8)

And it's a cover song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 21, 2023, 02:30:50 PM
Ironically their most succesful song (at least in The Netherlands) is Some Kinda Wonderful. Which was also sung by Brewer.  8)

I haven't listened to it in so long, I can't be sure.  But I think Farner and Brewer shared vocals on that.  Personally, though, regardless of who sang it, it is also one of my least favorite Grand Funk songs. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 21, 2023, 02:32:20 PM
And it's a cover song.

On the other hand, "Inside Looking Out" which I've mentioned, is also a cover song.  It would be debatable which is the better version, the one by the Animals or Grand Funk.  As far as I'm concerned, both are great.  For the sake of accuracy, I suppose it should be noted that Eric Burdon and Chas Chandler are only given co-songwriting credit for "Inside Looking Out" (along with John and Alan Lomax.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 21, 2023, 03:10:49 PM
Their song Sin’s A Good Man’s Brother was a staple in the setlist of the last band I played in.

https://youtu.be/0mHhc9t9X44
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 21, 2023, 04:15:11 PM
I like both Farner's and Brewer's voices, they were totally different, but sounded good on their own and together. Sure, Farner has the more impressive range, but Brewer's voice is more natural. I knew quite a lot of people who couldn't stand Farner's overly dramatic vocals though I'm not one of them. He always did remind me a bit of Uriah Heep's David Byron and vice versa, they had a similar tone and intensity. Close your eyes and its easy to imagine Farner singing Byron's vocal lines in
Stealin' at 17:54 (Farner sings less bum notes live though!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynC1UcHmYt8

The first verse of Some Kind of Wonderful is taken by Brewer, the second one by Farner, chorus is sung by both, the third verse has them trading lines - and it's IMHO the best version of that song done ever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsWaVQu7iTQ

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on August 22, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
I just listened to one of the most lovely albums I've ever heard: Getz/Gilberto from 1963.

This is the entire album with bi-language versions of The Girl From Ipanema and Corcovado (Quiet Nights of Quiet Stars).  The female singer is Joao Gilberto's wife Astrud, who was talked into singing - she was not a singer, just Gilberto's wife. But her voice is piercingly lovely and perfect for the music. And this is Stan Getz at his best.

The entire album is 38 minutes.  If you want to hear something minimal, relaxing and perfect in its musicality, I invite you to listen to the whole thing.  This is the album that put Bossa Nova on the map in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJJKDzqVpvE&list=PL7gp579CMkT8Bx7wrlczLUZ-AZApsyFUk 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on August 23, 2023, 04:44:42 AM
40 minutes of bossa nova is a good thing!

I’ll give this a listen this afternoon.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 27, 2023, 10:09:02 PM
https://youtu.be/6000Cc0QIp0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2023, 03:44:51 AM
I didn't know you were a Cure fan, Dave!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 28, 2023, 07:07:40 AM
I didn't know you were a Cure fan, Dave!

What does this have to do with the Cure?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2023, 08:10:56 AM
The music is very similar. Or call it The Smiths.

Not saying it's bad.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 28, 2023, 03:00:43 PM
Auntie Alice ages like fine red wine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVxJwWgv5Gg


And copiously cites herself, like with the bass run from Elected at 01:23 or the descending chromatic line at 03:23 - I forgot from which Alice Cooper Group 70ies hit that was!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2023, 10:48:09 AM
The music is very similar. Or call it The Smiths.

Not saying it's bad.

I don't hear that at all. And besides, Martin Phillipps isn't a creepy, whiny weirdo like Robert Smith or worse yet, Morrissey.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 29, 2023, 11:05:10 AM
I don't hear that at all.

Me neither.

REM maybe. But not quite
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 29, 2023, 11:28:23 AM
Speaking of The Cure:
Robert Smith can do a pretty decent Thin Lizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiSHTs41be8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 29, 2023, 11:31:00 AM
Speaking of Thin Lizzy:

Brian Downey still has that swing.
Totally enjoyed this set of Thin Lizzy's best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrimAp3Png
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 29, 2023, 08:39:52 PM
Country hit for Marty Robbins, who wrote it, in 1956.

https://youtu.be/z5LS2OoDV6s


Also a pop hit for Johnnie Ray in 1957.

https://youtu.be/Ty1PxOW6w9c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on August 30, 2023, 06:36:54 AM
Speaking of The Cure:
Robert Smith can do a pretty decent Thin Lizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiSHTs41be8

WOW! As a fan of both bands, I thought this was great.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2023, 07:47:07 AM
Me neither.

REM maybe. But not quite

REM fits too. It's that riffless, largely undistorted strummy guitar music (which has a place no doubt). But where would music be without riffs? I always found it more a challenge to put a melodic lead vocal over a prominent riff than over a bunch of chords - very 70ies I know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0EydhI_m90
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2023, 07:50:02 AM
Speaking of The Cure:
Robert Smith can do a pretty decent Thin Lizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiSHTs41be8

He does a great job!

He was a Thin Lizzy and Rory Gallagher fan as a teenager. The first gigs he saw were by them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2023, 08:03:18 AM
Speaking of Thin Lizzy:

Brian Downey still has that swing.
Totally enjoyed this set of Thin Lizzy's best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrimAp3Png

Did he always drum stoically behind the beat like that (at least in the opening number)?  :o  I remember him being more ahead of the beat in a nice way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSFsrSnOfgg

Sorry, I have issues with behind the beat drumming, it's why Bonham's charm totally escapes me. Though it's unfortunately become de rigueur with modern drumming and often perceived as more musical. With hard rock music I tend to  find it grating.

Perhaps Brian didn't hear himself or the band well at that gig, but I find his dragging behind the beat in a number like that distracting. That doesn't mean that he has lost swing, which he has indeed always had though in my mind swing requires a drummer to be behind, on top and ahead of the beat at various times.

PS: The band plays the Lizzy stuff with more feel than I have heard some of Scott Gorham's, Gary Moore's or John Sykes' outfits do it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on August 30, 2023, 08:35:33 AM
I think the band had some monitor difficulties in the first two songs. They sound a bit stiff. But after that they were on fire.
They understand Thin Lizzy was not a heavy metal band. That's where most tribute acts go wrong (too much gain in the guitars and drums are often too heavy handed).
I think their "Robbo", Michael Kulbaka really captures the essence of the Live & Dangerous performance.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 30, 2023, 10:04:47 AM
They understand Thin Lizzy was not a heavy metal band.

Indeed not. To me they were a hard-rock'ish singer/songwriter act (Lynott's lyrics/poetry were far above what you usually hear in hard or heavy rock bands) with Celtic influences - all those bagpipe melodies the two lead guitarists would play in harmony!  ;)

Lizzy could rock hard and be exciting, but there was nothing really heavy about them, not in the way Phil idiosyncratically strummed his bass and not in Downey's sprightly played drums. They were too lively and light-footed to be heavy (not a knock, I prefer light-footedness to clumsiness).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2023, 08:14:52 AM
Still like Rumer. Unaffected, beautiful voice and presentation. Outside of a studio and a grand production she's even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY24NZ60nI0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHevM9QTOkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3hAgglxfw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 31, 2023, 09:04:17 AM
When it comes to Rumer, it should be no surprise that Richard Carpenter is a fan. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on August 31, 2023, 09:43:02 AM
My favorite Doc Watson song

https://youtu.be/dq-1G6Wif8s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2023, 11:56:33 AM
When it comes to Rumer, it should be no surprise that Richard Carpenter is a fan.

But Rumer eats properly - good wholesome Pakistani food.

“Rumer later discovered her biological father was the family's Pakistani cook, with whom her mother had had an affair when living in Pakistan. While her mother was dying of breast cancer in 2001, she asked Rumer to make the journey to Pakistan to search for her real father, with her mother reportedly saying "I want to leave this planet with my house in order". She discovered on arriving he had only recently died in a freak accident.”

Stuff to make a movie from. Sigh, our parents weren’t always as much on the straight and narrow as they claimed to be. Beware of DNA tests and the surprises they might bring.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2023, 02:43:21 PM
This is pretty darn good and groovy as hell, Journey in an alternative, non-corporate universe. Deen Castronovo is no Steve Perry, no, but he does a wonderful job both on drums and lead vocals here. Lovely to hear and see Greg Rolie again too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0PyAmVsyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMBztLhX-ws
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2023, 02:58:18 PM
I've heard worse incarnations of MSG. Ronnie Romero has really grown in stature over the years. They do both the UFO and MSG stuff equally well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2hc_Dd_Kw

My countryman is real good on guitar - and if I say so myself.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 31, 2023, 03:07:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zOjRlVpAOQ

Somehow I missed the part where Eric Clapton got into Dire Straits. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on August 31, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
Insidiously, he only did that to poach their lead guitarist, Mark something, as his rhythm guitarist so he could learn to play some proper music from Eric.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInoeTycY60
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on August 31, 2023, 03:56:34 PM
Here they are with Layla. 

https://youtu.be/m9tZoMBCGf8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 01, 2023, 08:16:59 AM
I have an unofficial live album of that tour. Knopfler stayed pretty much in the background, but I believe he wanted it that way and asked  to play as little lead as possible on Eric's songs. On Layla, there is some switching around, Knopfler plays Eric's parts when the latter sings (and plays rhythm guitar).

Eric is a melodic soloist, you can't deny him that. Also a lazy bum  :mrgreen:, not much pinkie playing going on, is there?

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RightResponsibleBunting-max-1mb.gif)

It always amazes me how many well-regarded guitarists leave their pinkie (mostly) out when soloing, when hardly a bassist does it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 01, 2023, 09:40:34 AM
I read somewhere that Clapton never uses his pinkie at all.  Most of the time I don't pay much attention to what guitarists are doing when they play.  I pay way more attention to bassists.  Even then I'm mostly focused on what kind of sound they're getting. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 01, 2023, 02:45:53 PM
Not using your pinkie looks unelegant to me. It's the first thing I look for when I play with a guitarist I don't know. Very few pass the test. The truth is that if you don't just play Blues scales all the time, lack of pinkie use will hamper you becoming fluid in other scales.

Gary Moore was another non-pinkie user too - it looked horrible.

As regards bassists, bass brand, pick-up choice, amp sounds and effects are pretty much irrelevant to me. I look at what they play and how they play it. Lack of elegance on the fretboard admittedly bugs me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 01, 2023, 04:10:57 PM
Wait...what? Are you saying there are other scales out there besides blues scales?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 01, 2023, 04:12:49 PM
Not using your pinkie is kinda weird to me.  More than one song my pinkie is on the root note.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 02, 2023, 05:30:49 AM
When I started out, I played octaves with my ring finger, I have large hands, it wasn’t an issue even on a long scale neck. My bass teacher was adamant I kick the bad habit and he was right.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on September 02, 2023, 06:48:13 AM
Someone mentioned this song the other day.
Some classic Ry Cooder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdKk8IziCHg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 02, 2023, 08:14:22 AM
Wait...what? Are you saying there are other scales out there besides blues scales?

Jawohl, I've heard about that, lieber Dave, but they appparently only teach it in Europe I believe, at 03:00, sehr elucidating as regards pinkie use too, meine Güte ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8HiZepRWo

Some people can even do both!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf7oYywdS8


I jest about it, but it might be an explanation, Eric Clapton learned guitar comparatively late and was primarily self-taught from Blues records, Ritchie learned guitar at a very early age, took classical lessons and had (in England) legendary Big Jim Sullivan as his teacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBiDFJZ0mcU

In the 60ies, Blackmore adored Nashville players, he thought them technically superior to anything in rock. That is why he rated Albert Lee so highly who (though not from Nashville and a Limey) mastered that style in ole Blighty.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 02, 2023, 09:34:17 AM
Not using your pinkie looks unelegant to me. It's the first thing I look for when I play with a guitarist I don't know. Very few pass the test. The truth is that if you don't just play Blues scales all the time, lack of pinkie use will hamper you becoming fluid in other scales.

Gary Moore was another non-pinkie user too - it looked horrible.

Your favorite fellow Deutscher guitarist Michael Schenker doesn't use his pinkie either...
It has never bothered me. I'm amazed at the speed he gets out of just three fretting fingers.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on September 02, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
Your favorite fellow Deutscher guitarist Michael Schenker doesn't use his pinkie either...
It has never bothered me. I'm amazed at the speed he gets out of just three fretting fingers.

I'd say rarely use his pinkie, but look at Uwe's posted video at for example ca 53:40 he actually does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2hc_Dd_Kw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 02, 2023, 04:01:45 PM
You watched (almost) an entire hour just to see him using his pinkie once??!

He just doesn't use it. Most of the time he has it curled up.
Until 53.40 where he stretches out to take that one fret further for just once... ;-)

By the way that bass player is Barend from my home town.
Nice to see him enjoy being on stage with his hero.

Still don't like Ronnie Romero as a singer. He sounds like he does not have a clue what he's singing about. All of the lyrics sound like phonetical interpretations.
Armed or ready?



Anyway, here's Barend and the band he played with in the early nineties

https://youtu.be/tlMYchAKOzQ?si=EKT5vTe-vAqLf2CB&t=152







Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 02, 2023, 11:03:24 PM
You watched (almost) an entire hour just to see him using his pinkie once??!

He just doesn't use it. Most of the time he has it curled up.
Until 53.40 where he stretches out to take that one fret further for just once... ;-)

By the way that bass player is Barend from my home town.
Nice to see him enjoy being on stage with his hero.

Still don't like Ronnie Romero as a singer. He sounds like he does not have a clue what he's singing about. All of the lyrics sound like phonetical interpretations.
Armed or ready?



Anyway, here's Barend and the band he played with in the early nineties

https://youtu.be/tlMYchAKOzQ?si=EKT5vTe-vAqLf2CB&t=152

I think what you said about the singer is fairly common with a number of Romance language singers who sing in English.  The Romance languages and a Germanic language such as English are just too radically different.  The singer is Chilean, isn't he?  Possibly the best friend I ever had as a young man was a Chilean woman, but as far as I know Chileans aren't particularly known for singing rock songs in English.  Nevertheless, Ronnie Romero does have a record for being with some really good bands. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 02, 2023, 11:27:51 PM
That's him. He has a record for being all over the place in a very short span of time. Being with (hardrock)bands/artists that are way past their prime (Rainbow, MSG, Vandenberg etc)
Not the most loyal band member.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2023, 04:03:04 AM
I'm really not very familiar with him.  As for Romance language speakers singing in English, I've probably listened to Italians more than anyone.  They tend to do a lot of rock.  In real life, I've always been around Latin Americans mostly speaking Spanish, with one exception from some Brazilian friends speaking Portuguese.  But none of these people are involved in music.  With Italian it isn't so much the singing itself as it is with the lyrics written by someone whose native language isn't English.  It can be a challenge.  But the world for years has expected for the most part that rock music be in English.  It doesn't mean English is the best language in the world.  I personally don't think it is.  But it is good for rock. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2023, 07:24:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZHSIhdYSZY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2023, 08:32:19 AM
That's him. He has a record for being all over the place in a very short span of time. Being with (hardrock)bands/artists that are way past their prime (Rainbow, MSG, Vandenberg etc)
Not the most loyal band member.

He looks very Dutch.

Schenker is not much of a pinkie user, Uli Jon Roth is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4QqMF6fcU


I'm not saying that three finger guitarists can't play or have nothing to musically say, but four finger use just looks more elegant/refined, just take a look at how Roth plays the Sails of Charon riff at 11:05 above.

It's like watching someone type, you can get along with just your two three or four fingers, but using them all certainly looks more proficient.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 03, 2023, 08:47:44 AM
Haha yeah. Those greasy curls are typical for the Dutch. 😜
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 03, 2023, 09:09:35 AM
I think it has more to do with how you learned to play in the first place.
Self taught or classically trained.

When I learned to play the guitar I had to start out with memorising the names of the fingers on both hands:
PIMA for the plucking hand (P= thumb, I=Index, M=middle, A=ring)
1234 for the fretboard hand (1=index, 2=middle, 3=ring, 4=pinky)

And the first (tedious) exercises were moving the fingers of the left hand from string to string. In all possible orders.
Same with the plucking hand PIMA, PAMI, AMIP, et cetera

Not using the pinky (nr 4) of the left hand was not an option.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2023, 09:11:43 AM
No, it's not the hair, it's the facial features. Not all Dutch(wo)men share those, but you just have a higher percentage of people who do. Barend with short hair would just fit in fine as a partner in our Amsterdam office.

You, by the way, don't have that Dutch look at all, what went wrong, speak up?!  :mrgreen:

But then I don't look German either, no one in our both paternal and maternal family strains really ever did.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2023, 10:43:26 AM
I've not paid much attention to the looks of German men.  I can't say I pay much attention to the looks of men from any country.  German women, on the other hand, are a different matter.  I wasn't prepared for how beautiful many of them were.  Especially when I was in Nuremberg, I seriously kept wondering from time to time if I had arrived at a time when they were having a super model convention somewhere.  Once at a restaurant there, I remember spotting a table with only beautiful women sitting there.  Probably anywhere between 7 to 10.  I kept wondering who they were, but never went up to talk to them.  What was I going to say?  Why are you all so beautiful?  It would have been kind of awkward.  Still, I was kept wondering.  I mean how is it possible for so many people to look that good?  The only comparable place would be Dublin, Ireland--a city I would go to many years later.  In that case, you've also got the sexy Irish accent, something I find very appealing. 

I remember I told this experience on another thread years ago.  I don't remember the context.  I used to have quite a few things to tell about traveling to Europe.  One of my best friends lives there.  But I've got to say it's unlikely I'll be seeing her anytime soon.  She let herself go to the extreme during the pandemic.  It's unlikely I'll be going back to Europe and most likely won't have anything else to say about being an American tourist there.  I think I went a total of eight times and in many cases stayed for months at a time.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 03, 2023, 11:10:30 AM
No, it's not the hair, it's the facial features. Not all Dutch(wo)men share those, but you just have a higher percentage of people who do. Barend with short hair would just fit in fine as a partner in our Amsterdam office.

You, by the way, don't have that Dutch look at all, what went wrong, speak up?!  :mrgreen:

But then I don't look German either, no one in our both paternal and maternal family strains really ever did.

I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a Dutch look (nor German).
I think we already established that once and for all, some 78 years ago... 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 03, 2023, 11:24:13 AM
Russian band Leonid and Friends with a BS&T cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIf20HQ0ts


Not a native speaker either. Yet his performance is very convincing. No doubt he knows what he sings about (which I'm no too sure of with Ronnie Romero)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a Dutch look (nor German).
I think we already established that once and for all, some 78 years ago... 8)

Well, I hate to break it to you, but as someone who has visited the Netherlands many times, there definitely is a Dutch look, both for women and men.  It's something very positive, though.  Otherwise, I wouldn't even be posting this.  I could go into the details, although, of course these are only personal observations.  How much validity or importance they might have, I really can't say. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 03, 2023, 04:19:07 PM
Since when do you care for Blood, Sweat & Tears, Holländer? I'm baffled.

**************************

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a Dutch look (nor German). I think we already established that once and for all, some 78 years ago ..."

What was - fortuitously - knocked severely about back then was the perverse belief that there is some kind of a pecking order of ethnicities/"races" (there is only one human race). Unfortunately it wasn't dealt a death blow back then or we wouldn't have had to bother with Apartheid all the way up to the 90ies, Hutus and Tutsis (or Serbs and Bosnians) slaughtering each other or with Han Chinese treatment of Uyghurs today.

But sure there (still) are national looks, don't you agree? Not in a sense that everyone there then looks that way, but that a sizable chunk of the population in question shares certain features. Dutch(wo)men are on the average taller than Italians and there are less (non-bottled) blonde's in Italy than in Sweden, people living in Mediterranean states generally have a darker complexion than people in Germany and there are probably more people in Afghanistan with dark hair, yet blue eyes than anywhere else in the world, more Greeks with curly hair than Germans too. Of course that is all changing through migratory mixing (and that is a good thing, I abhor the preservation of 'racial' purity, people aren't animals whose DNA has to be protected against "dilution" on biodiversity grounds - even in the animal world, I think that invasive species are in essence evolution doing its core job, any species will always try to enlarge its geographical expanse given the opportunity).

But national physical traits still do exist and will continue to do so though in, say, a few more centuries many parts of the world will have a very mixed DNA with lots of ethnic components stirred together. Which is perfectly fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFJ1T7kaXDA

You still don't look very Dutch, Rob, but others from your neck of the woods dams & dikes do! Adrian Vandenberg looks Dutch as hell.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN8NSDK_gdzf4Hk1ep6IUs0dopTRIvBTdpkQ&usqp=CAU)

PS: In the latish 80ies - it still existed then - I paid (in the literal sense, there was Zwangsumtausch, mandatory minimum curreny conversion when you entered because their own currency was worth shit) my first visit to the German Democratic Republic ---> East Germany. By then, they had begun looking different from us West Germans or to be exact we had begun looking different to them due to all of the migratory influences we as West Germans had experienced (and mostly benefited from!) in the 50ies, 60ies, 70ies and 80ies. East Germany had been pretty much secluded for four decades. There were simply a lot less dark-haired, curly-haired, dark-complexioned or Asian ancestry people on the streets, I felt like I had been time-machined back to pre-war Germany, it was unsettling! In the Frankfurt area where I live, a majority of the population has by now a migratory background.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2023, 07:28:20 PM
https://youtu.be/C62_JmPGRcQ

To me Laura Vandervoort is one of the best examples of the Dutch look for a woman.  Of course she isn't Dutch at all, she is Canadian.  But her father is Dutch.  She was far and away the best Supergirl (from years ago in Smallville.) 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2023, 09:17:17 PM
When I think of the idealized German woman, I think of Angela Merkel, of course.  :mrgreen: Or Elke Sommer. I get them confused.  :mrgreen:

Anyway, on to what I'm listening to tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8fyb9vpIc0

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 03, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
When I think of the idealized German woman, I think of Angela Merkel, of course.  :mrgreen: Or Elke Sommer. I get them confused.  :mrgreen:

Or Lili Von Shtüpp.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2023, 10:12:45 PM
Or Lili Von Shtüpp.

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66gc54bZd6Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 03, 2023, 11:12:37 PM
Although she was in many movies, when I think of Elke Sommer it's hard not to think of her in this one.  Peter Sellers was hilarious.

https://youtu.be/N9d-c9ooO7s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on September 03, 2023, 11:34:32 PM
You watched (almost) an entire hour just to see him using his pinkie once??!

He just doesn't use it. Most of the time he has it curled up.
Until 53.40 where he stretches out to take that one fret further for just once... ;-)

Actually I skipped to that very song so it was purely coincidental, but I'll gladly take your word for it. :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 03:10:44 AM
When being abroad on holiday the Dutch often are mistaked for being German.
The locals politely inform where are you from.
And when you reply: "From the Netherlands" you always get a sigh of relief. " Ah, thank goodness, I thought you were maybe German"  :popcorn:



(https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/content/images/2020/05/25/ANP-Duitsers%20kuil%20strand.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 05:30:45 AM
https://youtu.be/C62_JmPGRcQ

To me Laura Vandervoort is one of the best examples of the Dutch look for a woman.  Of course she isn't Dutch at all, she is Canadian.  But her father is Dutch.  She was far and away the best Supergirl (from years ago in Smallville.)

I know what you mean, yup, Dutch features.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 05:35:07 AM
When being abroad on holiday the Dutch often are mistaked for being German.
The locals politely inform where are you from.
And when you reply: "From the Netherlands" you always get a sigh of relief. " Ah, thank goodness, I thought you were maybe German"  :popcorn:
(https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/content/images/2020/05/25/ANP-Duitsers%20kuil%20strand.jpg)

Yeah, I know. All Dutch(wo)men like to believe they are somehow more British than German, but you're not fooling us: You're disconcertingly close to us, just even more matter-of-fact blunt and undiplomatic if that is possible!  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 05:46:45 AM
When I think of the idealized German woman, I think of Angela Merkel, of course.  :mrgreen: Or Elke Sommer. I get them confused.  :mrgreen:


Nico aka Christa Päffgen was German and though she presented herself - in line with the times - very much in a French Existentialism look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMw8kttO4KU

no doubt to get away from an all to German image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svYqI1PvcpM


I still think she was very much the German type. It's not all blondes, that was Nazi wishful thinking.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 08:43:45 AM
even more matter-of-fact blunt and undiplomatic if that is possible!  :P
Nah, that's just me. 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 10:20:47 AM
From decades of liaising with your good countrymen: No, you might be a worthy specimen alright, but you're nowhere near alone. You guys can be gobsmackingly hilariously blunt.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 10:36:13 AM
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180131-where-dutch-directness-comes-from
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 04, 2023, 12:56:19 PM
Let's not forget Nena. She's no Angela Merkel, but she's all  right.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 04, 2023, 01:04:42 PM
I know what you mean, yup, Dutch features.

One thing I began to notice after a while, is that it's rare to see an ugly woman in the Netherlands.  I'm not saying they all look as good as Laura Vandervoort.  It's just that the prevalence of ugly ducklings must be pretty low there.  I have an American friend (a bassist) who has lived in Denmark for sixteen years or so.  His contact with the Netherlands has been minimal, but he has visited.  He much prefers Denmark, but I remember once he told me when he got older he might seriously consider moving to Holland.  His reason--his only reason--was that he had never seen a country where the women age so well.  He was dead serious, but I suspect to some degree he might have had a point.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 04, 2023, 01:06:42 PM
Let's not forget Nena. She's no Angela Merkel, but she's all  right.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY

Believe me, it would be quite difficult to forget Nena. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 01:18:01 PM
Been listening to the Deluxe box of UFO's Strangers In The Night.

(https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/spread600.png)

The choice that they (record company? Ron Nevison? The band themselves?) made for the official release in 1978 makes perfect sense to me. It really is the best selection of the nights they recorded.

I just don't think songs as Hot N Ready, Pack it Up and Go, I Ain't No Baby are as strong as the ones that ended up on the (double) album.

And on some nights Phil Mogg did not hit all the notes he could have. Guess they were partying real hard back in those days. And a singer's voice is just a vulnerable instrument to a hangover or fatigue.
But the band is really tight. And Schenker is incredible on all of the recorded nights.

It puzzles me why he insisted on overdubbing his guitar parts in the studio. Producer Ron Nevison refused to have him do that. And consequently Schenker just walked out and quit the band...
In the liner notes I read that he had to play most nights on a spare Flying V, which made him feel uncomfortable.
Over the years he has made peace with the album.






Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 02:23:47 PM
One thing I began to notice after a while, is that it's rare to see an ugly woman in the Netherlands.  I'm not saying they all look as good as Laura Vandervoort.  It's just that the prevalence of ugly ducklings must be pretty low there.  I have an American friend (a bassist) who has lived in Denmark for sixteen years or so.  His contact with the Netherlands has been minimal, but he has visited.  He much prefers Denmark, but I remember once he told me when he got older he might seriously consider moving to Holland.  His reason--his only reason--was that he had never seen a country where the women age so well.  He was dead serious, but I suspect to some degree he might have had a point.

Most Dutch women look like A(d)rian(e) Vandenberg. Or vice versa.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR93jAhJ9k6SNVk2agzVVCSQcyy6slb2W_t1qGQ_no-ehpW_PzmQhaSx7f-5rvBd75AJhI&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 02:30:04 PM
Yes that's true. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 02:34:46 PM
Been listening to the Deluxe box of UFO's Strangers In The Night.

(https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/spread600.png)

The choice that they (record company? Ron Nevison? The band themselves?) made for the official release in 1978 makes perfect sense to me. It really is the best selection of the nights they recorded.

I just don't think songs as Hot N Ready, Pack it Up and Go, I Ain't No Baby are as strong as the ones that ended up on the (double) album.

And on some nights Phil Mogg did not hit all the notes he could have. Guess they were partying real hard back in those days. And a singer's voice is just a vulnerable instrument to a hangover or fatigue.
But the band is really tight. And Schenker is incredible on all of the recorded nights.

It puzzles me why he insisted on overdubbing his guitar parts in the studio. Producer Ron Nevison refused to have him do that. And consequently Schenker just walked out and quit the band...
In the liner notes I read that he had to play most nights on a spare Flying V, which made him feel uncomfortable.
Over the years he has made peace with the album.

Yup, that's a nice piece of history right there and I agree they were consistent as a band. Mogg was never the greatest singer, but he had charm. And his lyrics weren't as awful as other hard rock singers'. Schenker was just an anally-retentive obsessive with his solos, you know how that tends to be a German trait. Still a gifted man.

I notice that you have a strong penchant for Live albums that were doctored in the aftermath, lieber Rob, Lizzy's Live & Dangerous, UFO's Strangers In The Night, tsk, tsk, tsk ... you really should add Judas Priest's Unleashed In The East to your favorites which was recorded live on two different continents, the music on a 1979 Japan tour, the vocals by the other Rob in an English studio afterwards because he had been too knackered to perform properly in Japan, the ole insomniac, and didn't like what he heard.

Don't you think you should give a REAL LIVE ALBUM like Made In Japan a chance sometime?  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 04, 2023, 03:03:22 PM
I have never cared for Judas Priest. Back in high school some of my friends were really dedicated Priest fans. So I heard their albums quite often including that half live album.
But somehow I never clicked with that band. I have zero Priest albums.

In those days Made In Japan for me was an album that was from another generation. My older cousins (with their beards and their long hair) listened to that.
To me it representated long extinct dinosaurs of rock.
I did try to like it later, but I just couldn't get into that album with those lengthy (sometimes long winded) live versions. With that drum solo that (in my memory) was an entire side of one LP being the pinnacle of boring old fashioned rock to me back then.

But you're right, maybe I should give it a try once again.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 03:14:53 PM
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180131-where-dutch-directness-comes-from

Yes, Your Royal Bluntness, that is just the way you all are. The article nails it. :mrgreen: Straight to your face, with a very pure, almost childlike honesty. I've never minded it, I find it refreshing and the fact that you guys abhor showing off is another positive trait you have.

My daughter grew up in a family where all kinds of matters (politics, religion, sex, money, sickness, death, sibling rivalry, parental relationship issues, psychology and "why-I-just-can't-stand-the look-of-your-face-today") were discussed very openly, but even she says that her Dutch boyfriend/husband-to-be sometimes leaves her speechless with his blunt- and directness. "And," she says, "there is nothing mean or callous about it, he just tells you straight and unfiltered to your face what he thinks and feels".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 04, 2023, 03:21:28 PM
I have never cared for Judas Priest. Back in high school some of my friends were really dedicated Priest fans. So I heard their albums quite often including that half live album.
But somehow I never clicked with that band. I have zero Priest albums.

In those days Made In Japan for me was an album that was from another generation. My older cousins (with their beards and their long hair) listened to that.
To me it representated long extinct dinosaurs of rock.
I did try to like it later, but I just couldn't get into that album with those lengthy (sometimes long winded) live versions. With that drum solo that (in my memory) was an entire side of one LP being the pinnacle of boring old fashioned rock to me back then.

But you're right, maybe I should give it a try once again.

True, 25% of MiJ is sheer 70ies self-indulgence, but there are also many parts where you hear a well-oiled machine at the somewhat frantic peak of its powers with entertaining improvisational abandon and tongue-in-cheek moments: "Can we have everything louder than everything else?!"

Priest were never an improvisational band, they aim for perfection, consistency and overwhelming your senses. Kind of like Rammstein. I find Priest entertaining and emotionally gripping when I'm in the mood for it, but they don't trigger anything cerebral in me, Purple does.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 04, 2023, 10:08:49 PM
I've been thinking seriously of pre-ordering this.  I just found out about it yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbv58ig5wOA&t=581s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 04, 2023, 10:43:48 PM
Most Dutch women look like A(d)rian(e) Vandenberg. Or vice versa.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR93jAhJ9k6SNVk2agzVVCSQcyy6slb2W_t1qGQ_no-ehpW_PzmQhaSx7f-5rvBd75AJhI&usqp=CAU)

You've probably been to all parts of the Netherlands several times.  I've mostly been to Friesland, Groningen, and North Brabant.  I don't think I ever saw many men or women who looked like that.  Unlike many Americans, I've never been to Amsterdam very much.  I did get to go to Rotterdam when I saw Golden Earring ten years ago.  The first person I ever met from the Netherlands was from Rotterdam.  We were both working in a small town in Mississippi.  That was years ago.  Maybe it gave me a false impression.  Because she wasn't blunt at all.  I had to go to the Netherlands itself to experience that.  Oh, boy; it's real.  I think Americans (including myself) go in the opposite direction.  I mean by that beating around the bush and not getting to the point.  But the Dutch can get to the point fast and then beat it to death in the process. 

Oh, yeah I failed to mention I've been to Leeuwarden a few times, too.  That's where a very good friend has moved to.  He is probably my closest friend there now. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2023, 06:42:38 AM
I've been thinking seriously of pre-ordering this.  I just found out about it yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbv58ig5wOA&t=581s

If it only weren't for the vocals ... If baffles me to this day that they claimed at the time that they "couldn't find the right one". That's nonsense, you just have to look hard enough and in strange places. Look at what Purple did after Ian Gillan's departure, lift David Coverdale, who no one had ever heard of and who had never recorded professionally, from obscurity.

The whole BBA period is marred for me by the absence of a singer in their - admittedly high - instrumental league.

Still might get this though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2023, 07:53:29 AM
Ok, this now is life-affirmingly fun and well done.

https://youtube.com/shorts/gtiCVSHdRd8


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 05, 2023, 12:12:29 PM
I'm still on the fence myself about the BBA box set.  Right after I posted I found out Golden Earring was releasing a remastered and expanded version of Cut.  So I immediately pre-ordered that.  Whether or not I'll want to pre-order yet another CD is debatable.  The Golden Earring box set consists of two CDs and a DVD.  At only $30, it's definitely a better deal than the $50 BBA cd set.  However, I might add that this may be more of a deal for Europeans than Americans.  Because I suspect that DVD won't play in the U.S.  According to the Steve Hoffman forum, it probably won't play.  That isn't stopping me from buying it, though.  The two CDs will at least play and that is my third favorite Golden Earring album anyway. 

The DVD is PAL/0 format. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 05, 2023, 01:38:29 PM
This one's for you Westen 44.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkMCCxr7HQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2023, 01:55:40 PM
Who are these guys? I recognize the Golden Earring rhythm section and the lead guitarist reminds me of Barry Hay, but he obviously isn't ....
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 05, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
They are Di-rect. A band from The Hague.
They've been around since 1999. When they started they were very young (like 16 or so). Became quite popular quite soon, so they have a lengthy career despite still being relatively young.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 05, 2023, 02:17:34 PM
Wish she was my grandma  :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5SJREqcLU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 05, 2023, 05:01:36 PM
This one's for you Westen 44.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkMCCxr7HQ


 ;D  Thanks I had heard they were good, but didn't know any details about them.  I wasn't expecting to see cameo appearances from actual members of Golden Earring.  Normally, that kind of thing wouldn't happen.  It's cool, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 05, 2023, 05:09:52 PM
Wish she was my grandma  :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5SJREqcLU

Holy shit yes.  Grandma's rockin' out.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2023, 08:13:01 PM
Waitaminnit .... Darren Wharton is trans too? Is nothing sacred, Mrs Doubtfire on the keys?!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on September 05, 2023, 09:35:53 PM
Wish she was my grandma  :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5SJREqcLU

That bass tone is nasty, in a good way. I really like it.
Apparently there's a story behind "grandma": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_(Down_on_Your_Luck)#TV_performance

I'm trying to figure out what Lynott is playing there... the headstock is clearly an Ibanez of the era, but I've never seen one with a mirror pickguard (custom maybe?) and can't get a good luck at the pickup(s).
Maybe it's this bass? Apparently an RS900:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/45/cc/06/45cc06d8f01cc193fabd7dc087550cd5.jpg)

... now I kind of want one!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 06, 2023, 01:00:56 AM
The lead guitarist of Di-Rect is Spike van Zoest.
He also has a side project called The Deaf, which is a lot less serious/radio-friendly than Di-Rect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPSos8jSOuA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 06, 2023, 01:20:55 AM

I'm trying to figure out what Lynott is playing there... the headstock is clearly an Ibanez of the era, but I've never seen one with a mirror pickguard (custom maybe?) and can't get a good luck at the pickup(s).
Maybe it's this bass? Apparently an RS900:


Yeah I think it's an RS 900. With a custom made pickguard (by Mighty Mighty).
In those days he also had a Roland synth bass, of which he didn't use the synth part (at least not on stage he didn't)

(https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/poster/10/8/break/images/artworkimages/medium/2/photo-of-phil-lynott-and-thin-lizzy-pete-cronin.jpg)

The mirror pickguard had become his signature style with his basses.
He got the idea after seeing the mirrors on Noddy Holder's hat when they supported Slade.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 06, 2023, 05:38:30 AM
Didn't Lynott also have a mirror pickguard on his P?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 06, 2023, 05:58:36 AM
Yes he did.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on September 06, 2023, 07:06:40 AM
Didn't Lynott also have a mirror pickguard on his P?

And one of his Rics. That was the inspiration for the mirror 'guard on my Ric.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 06, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
The lead guitarist of Di-Rect is Spike van Zoest.
He also has a side project called The Deaf, which is a lot less serious/radio-friendly than Di-Rect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPSos8jSOuA

He sounds pretty good and so does the rest of the band.  I wasn't expecting a female bassist who can also sing.  I would go and see that band if I ever had a chance to, although it's doubtful I would ever be able to.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 06, 2023, 09:20:28 AM
Musical talent is prevalent in The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkOy4T3jRIY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 06, 2023, 10:53:36 AM
That is not how I experience it.

And it is most certainly not stimulated/facilitated by the authorities.

For example at the primary school where my kids went they got zero music lessons.
And same goes for the secondary school...  >:(

Music -and Art in general- is considered to be a left-wing hobby by a large part of the people.

The only "music" those people ever hear/see are those godawful Holland's Got Talent shows, where it is rewarded to imitate someone as closely as possible.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on September 06, 2023, 11:42:32 AM
We had a music program when I started High School in Ontario before my family moved to Nova Scotia. We were asked to choose an instrument in numerical preference , I wrote saxophone , saxophone , drums.
I got a French horn.
We had already started a little garage band. And even played at the school.

I had a single pickup Zen-On guitar with some bass strings on it.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 06, 2023, 12:34:37 PM
For a country your size, your musical impact outside of your borders has always been sizable, in Germany at least ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0ukGcKU44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Oy5UfEDh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0yqKrGKukE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPEhQugz-Ew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCO-jN_c0u0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=447LKTYDv4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEAaK3uOCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEPIpTpoPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbvj8KU57aw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Hlqjb26Ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_6TT0YCFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVikZ8Oe_XA

Now most of this is "housewives AM radio music", I know, but it doesn't matter, that is an art form too. Dutch origin music was always present in Germany.

And let's not forget: No Eddie van Halen without you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FXxpSesZs

Ok, granted, David Lee Roth was (and is) no Ronnie James Dio - yet I guess it’s a feat in itself how many times he can actually avoid singing the right notes, he must have some kind of antimagnetic reaction to them -, but then he wasn't Dutch either!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 06, 2023, 06:40:46 PM
^^^

No George Baker Selection? No Tee Set? No Mouth & MacNeal? No Outsiders (Wally Tax)?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 07, 2023, 04:56:22 AM
Haha, no Focus, no Flavium, no 2Unlimited, no Martin Garrix, no Armin van Buuren either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2023, 07:22:00 AM
I missed Ekseption and him (that was a huge hit in the early 80ies) too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsGjFh1ke44&t=16s

lots of others actually, but did I at least get my point across, ja?

And Dave: Of course I had Mouth & MacNeal in there, it was the one vid you had to watch directly on YouTube!!!

That I received no acclaim for mentioning Jopi Heesters bugs me. He made music for us Germans in difficult times (here: 1944) when any cheering-up was welcome! Who said we couldn't do escapism?  And all the tasteful allegories, a ship at the shore, no German defense around, but at least the showgirls are marching and swinging their legs. 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPvFQrTx5Yc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2023, 10:45:30 AM
Admittedly, not mentioning 2 Unlimited was criminal, but I couldn't recall their name. I do herewith make amends ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6FVk2k4qsM


So much better than the horrific Scooter, a most shameful German product ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Uo4kLkxII

Essentially, it is a bit like heavy metal without guitars and real singing, isn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2023, 06:56:06 AM
Floor has a new band:
Stapled.

They are a tribute to Mavis Staples and the Staple Singers.
Not a look-a-like band obviously and not a carbon copy either. They just respectfully pay homage to the music of Mavis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h63EHiebhvI


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2023, 08:19:39 AM
That performance is classy, give her my regards! Edith loves that stuff too.

Floor btw does look Dutch. Isn’t it consoling that despite your non-ethnic looks you did find a local girl to put up with you after all, Rob?  8)

PS: "Not a lookalike-band obviously.". I think Floor was well-advised not to attempt any blackface for a more authentic look! That kinda tends to stir people up these days.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2023, 08:56:41 AM
There are people out there who think a white girl cannot do a tribute to a black artist.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2023, 03:02:56 PM
That is madness. A white girl pretending to be black and darkening her complexion is silly (a black girl lightening hers is tragic), but Floor can of course honor Mavis (and does it excellently), Arielle can be a black girl and Denzel Washington can be Macbeth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpGo2_d3oYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptqe7s6pO7g

Cultural appropriation - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - is just a sign of cultures mingling and influencing each other, since when is that supposed to be bad?  When my son was 13 or 14, he decided that he wanted dreadlocks. Leon was a beautiful boy, but he had and has thin/fine and absolutely straight blondish hair. Still, if he wanted something ... So we did find an African hairdresser for him in one of the not so good parts in town and the hairdresser girls (all of them black) were over the moon that a little white guy would want to have an ethnic hair style. They took ages to get it right on him (probably rightfully wondering why white people have such weird flaccid hair  :) ) and he sat through it with earnest patience. The results were great, looked good on him, started a trend at his school and after a few months ... all the dreadlocks fell off.  :mrgreen: Which is what they inevitably do with white people with straight hair as my son then learned.  8) He was unperturbed, got a crew cut instead and looks back fondly on his dreadlock experiment. Some things you just have to do to get them off your chest.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 08, 2023, 03:04:59 PM
How do we explain Michael Jackson?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2023, 03:23:08 PM
He was in many ways a tragic figure. He didn't want to be black, he didn't want to be an adult, he didn't want to be a male, yet not gay either .... I think he never found out what he really wanted to be except adored by everyone and somehow ethereal.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 08, 2023, 03:27:34 PM
A poor black boy who grew up to be a rich white man?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2023, 03:39:59 PM
His astounding wealth must have sure isolated him, but I don't think it was his core issue. Lack of a real childhood due to his Jackson 5 career must have played a role too. And that oppressive Jehovah's Witnesses crap + an abusive father.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2023, 04:00:29 PM
Saw this AI image last week

(https://assets.iflscience.com/assets/articleNo/65511/aImg/62264/michael-jackson-o.webp)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 08, 2023, 05:11:54 PM
George Baker again?

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Ironically, that is what Michael always wanted, to become the AI image of himself, long before the term existed. He was this really cute young black man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6lNFS6FCzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo

and then he started messing with his facial features and skin tone and turned himself into this artificial Peter Pan monstrosity.

(https://e00-marca.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/06/26/16877546300462.jpg)

He'd have looked real good if he had aged like in that AI pic you posted, but with all the messing around he did, this is probably a more realistic depiction ...

(https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/elespectador/TRRDYXHQZJAA3D3GPH5WBVH6HE.jpg)

PS: I really like Cher, but compared to the natural animal grace of the Jackson 5 she couldn't dance or move about shit.  :mrgreen: And, more seriously, she looks disturbingly anorectic in that vid too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 09, 2023, 04:21:12 AM
I don’t think he would have aged that well.
His nose looks too normal in that AI image. It was completely butchered.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 09, 2023, 06:52:21 AM
Yes, terrrible, imagine being that unhappy with your natural look (while the whole world thinks you’re handsome) to undergo something like that.

His life would make a great tragic biopic film, weird that it hasn’t been attempted yet, I assume that no filmmaker has the guts to tackle his attraction to children in cinema. And I would hope it would then be closer to the Elton John movie than to the incredibly banal Queen one, which wasn’t a real biopic at all but looked and felt like a piece of visual merchandise offered by the Queen fan club shop to diehard fans. Terribly insubstantial, you can’t depict Mercury more shallowly.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 09, 2023, 07:04:09 AM
This video has been out for years.  But I'm just now getting around to watching it.  At first I was a little baffled by the word "Wingstop" although it was obvious from the context that it's a fast food place.  There is even one close to here I just found out.  But that type of food has never been of any interest to me.  This girl just cracks me up, though.  I actually laughed out loud.  You can only hope that someone was able to get her some food as quickly as possible.  I think my favorite part was her calling someone "squid."  This video is off the wall. 

https://youtu.be/qEQchRNcHQ0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 10, 2023, 12:25:06 PM
This, on repeat. Its just one riff, but a great one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 10, 2023, 11:00:08 PM
I loved this when it came out. Just listened to it yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxSy9b11CBQ



Never knew anything about them. Then Ray Duke posted this to his FB page tonight, and... they're white!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCj6z3pQAWM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 11, 2023, 03:34:25 AM
Very nice. Never heard of them either!
I'm quite sure Floor will like them too
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 11, 2023, 08:22:18 AM
Obviously the description from Beat Club is wrong

They claim these are The Soul Sisters, an American vocal duo consisting of Tresia Cleveland and Ann Gissendanner.
But those two ladies are not the ladies in the video.

In the comment I found this:
So here's the actual truth of this group, as they are not the Soul Sisters duet that Beat-Club are saying, as the duet are actually African-American women :  The Soul Sister's are a Quartet that were on the Kerston Label in Germany.   The Band leader Doris (drums) went to a music school in Karlsruhe, Germany before she started the band.  Elly (lead) and twin sister Wally (organ-piano) have been playing their instruments since the age of 6.  Anja (bass) was the last to join the band and complete the Soul Sound.  They released mostly covers, Stand by Me with a B-side of Rescue Me, and Got to Get You Off My Mind with a b-side of Land of 1000 Dances.  (thank you Google!)


German girls Uwe?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 11, 2023, 09:14:54 AM
Which ones now, you guys are confusing!

These ladies here? German?

(https://i.discogs.com/ADLlhX-5MjR0lukqORIZnH7SXv_Yvk8u8-jkitNLGqI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:588/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk5Nzcx/MjctMTQ4OTU0ODg2/Mi04MDIyLmpwZWc.jpeg)

German only if their dads were black American GIs which wasn't so uncommon. There was racism in Germany, but there were no laws in place making life difficult for biracial couples. To many German Fräuleins, black GIs were a breath of fresh air after the oppressive war years and the black soldiers arrived in Germany as victors that could go anywhere they wanted without having to heed segregation. At the same time they showed empathy*** with the occupied because they knew from home what it was like to be a second class citizen.

Ramona's dad was a GI. I had a crush on her when I was about 10 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4luHu8YGjYw

You probably know her better from here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC_kCnm3GYQ

Seriously now, the other Soul Sisters?

(https://i.discogs.com/h8FddAosupOyNXHbZXvMqPMdoT_NhV9ta3Hz-jVmMw4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU0ODYx/MjAtMTUwMjU2MTE0/MC0yODI2LmpwZWc.jpeg)

They look very German to me.

*** My mom's first experience with a black man in 1945 was a positive one (albeit she reacted inappropriately). Dieburg, our home town, was being occupied by a black US tank group (who had also fought valiantly). As they were driving around in their Shearmans one of the tank crew, most likely the commander, threw candy to my mom. She just froze, didn't dare pick it up (unlike the other kids), though she was starving for sweets (sugar was rationed in wartime Germany), but she had been fed with all that bullshit propaganda of American soldiers poisoning the German population. When the black tank soldier realized that my mom was going to ignore his present, he (rightfully!) swore "you f***ing Nazi!".  :mrgreen: My mom regretted not picking up the sweets (other kids of course did) already on her way home and once there her two younger sisters almost stoned her for "being so stupid".  She never stopped feeling embarrassed about it, even with old age.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 11, 2023, 10:11:47 AM
For sure they' re German

But not very feminine looking...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 11, 2023, 01:25:03 PM
Over time, the import of foreign DNA helped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7HyGa2YFg4

Oh my, how my then five year old daughter loved that song when it came out!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 11, 2023, 01:51:32 PM
Haha sure did!

I remember that song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 11, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
I really liked them. They were the real thing too, school drop outs, child prostitution, drugs, hidden teenage marriages and pregnancies, a management that lied about their age (and criminal records) - as trailer park (if we had those in Germany) as you can get. But it all ended in acrimony and tears, a press conference called to document band unity ahead of a major German tour saw them get into each other's hair, insults flew and they left the stage yelling, crying and disbanding. Everyone thought it was a publicity stunt back then, but it wasn't. The golden goose flew away, never to return.

(https://www.swr.de/swr2/musik-jazz-und-pop/1668979865290,tic-tac-toe-108~_v-16x9@2dL_-6c42aff4e68b43c7868c3240d3ebfa29867457da.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 11, 2023, 08:52:06 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, Rob.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 12, 2023, 06:55:11 AM
Thanks for giving German girls the benefit of the doubt of being able to credibly perform soul music in the 60ies though, Dave!

Of course, der Holländer knew no better but to ruin it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 12, 2023, 08:47:08 AM
Rick all edgy ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGbJyYov_c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 12, 2023, 09:51:24 AM
Thanks for giving German girls the benefit of the doubt of being able to credibly perform soul music in the 60ies though, Dave!

Of course, der Holländer knew no better but to ruin it.

Did I?
I think I made it very clear that I liked them.
Or did you get the impression that I only like the USA version? :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 12, 2023, 11:26:56 AM
You uncovered their true identity!

I don't hear much in common between the motownish soul of the US Souls Sisters and the Garage Beat of the Soul Sister Fräuleins.

Knew neither to be honest and I'm generally pretty good at obscure 60ies German Beat.

(https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/made/content/uploads/images/scorpions-1965-0021_465_396_int.jpg)

(https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/scorpions-photocard-1966-001.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 12, 2023, 10:13:36 PM
I don't hear much in common between the motownish soul of the US Souls Sisters and the Garage Beat of the Soul Sister Fräuleins.


Motownish? You must be joking! It's not at all like Motown pop pablum, which was one big reason it appealed to me. Reminds me of something Sam Cooke could have produced.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 12, 2023, 10:14:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqnw5IfbZOU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 13, 2023, 03:51:47 AM
Another by the Romantics that I like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmGMzyajA2U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 04:41:21 AM
I don't hear much in common between the motownish soul of the US Souls Sisters and the Garage Beat of the Soul Sister Fräuleins.


Motownish? You must be joking! It's not at all like Motown pop pablum, which was one big reason it appealed to me. Reminds me of something Sam Cooke could have produced.

Just because it has a little choppy rhythm guitar in it, it's not totally de-motowned, but let's settle for "60ies Soul", ok? The reference to Sam Cooke makes sense though.

I'm not a Soul buff (though I regularly like hearing it), I can't always immediately recognize whether something is Stax or Motown either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 04:48:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqnw5IfbZOU

Brings back fond memories of my first visit to the States, early 80ies in Deeeetroit. They played their local heroes "up, down, jump around" the radio all day. Extremely catchy number. Remember it as the first hit of the 80ies that brought back the prominent harmonica solo. Lovely bubbly bass too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 04:58:12 AM
Another by the Romantics that I like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmGMzyajA2U

That was popular in Germany (more so than What I like about You) as a rock disco number, it had that 80ies dance groove. When I first heard it, I thought it was Hall & Oates! (Not a knock, I like Hall & Oates.) But it had none of the feverish immediacy of What I like About You.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: BTL on September 13, 2023, 07:43:15 AM
I've been listening to the Dawes channel on Pandora. Here's a sample of their style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fsrvp-YaWY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 08:01:25 AM
Let me guess - sizable female component in their audience?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: BTL on September 13, 2023, 09:41:46 AM
Not sure, but Taylor Goldsmith is married to Mandy Moore.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 12:50:07 PM
I should have known, it’s Nicholas Sparks romance movies girlie pop rock. Next stop: Kings of Leon.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: BTL on September 13, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
I should have known, it’s Nicholas Sparks romance movies girlie pop rock. Next stop: Kings of Leon.

Too funny.

:mrgreen:

See also: Mumford & Sons, Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Nathaniel Rateliff, Avett Brothers, Ryan Adamas, Jackson Browne...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 13, 2023, 04:03:01 PM
Just because it has a little choppy rhythm guitar in it, it's not totally de-motowned, but let's settle for "60ies Soul", ok? The reference to Sam Cooke makes sense though.

I'm not a Soul buff (though I regularly like hearing it), I can't always immediately recognize whether something is Stax or Motown either.

Another example of Sam Cooke's SAR Records soul. Patience Valentine was a little woman with a big voice. Before her solo sides with SAR, she was in a group called the Flares (or Flairs) in Los Angeles. After her SAR releases, nothing. I've searched and been unable to find out whatever became of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYS5ASEdNKA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 13, 2023, 04:26:40 PM
That was popular in Germany (more so than What I like about You) as a rock disco number, it had that 80ies dance groove. When I first heard it, I thought it was Hall & Oates! (Not a knock, I like Hall & Oates.) But it had none of the feverish immediacy of What I like About You.

Talking in Your Sleep also got higher on the charts in the U.S., but both songs were played a lot on MTV. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 04:29:17 PM
Too funny.

:mrgreen:

See also: Mumford & Sons, Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Nathaniel Rateliff, Avett Brothers, Ryan Adamas, Jackson Browne...

You forgot Coldplay.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 13, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
Another example of Sam Cooke's SAR Records soul. Patience Valentine was a little woman with a big voice. Before her solo sides with SAR, she was in a group called the Flares (or Flairs) in Los Angeles. After her SAR releases, nothing. I've searched and been unable to find out whatever became of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYS5ASEdNKA

Too bluesy for Motown, I get it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: BTL on September 13, 2023, 05:51:37 PM
You forgot Coldplay.

Somehow Coldplay didn't make it into the playlist. I may open up the Coldplay Pandora channel to see what it serves up.

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 14, 2023, 02:58:58 PM
https://youtu.be/EuxefsE9bkc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 14, 2023, 09:59:55 PM
The soundtrack is slightly off from his fretting hand movements.

https://youtu.be/N2RjDrplMKA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on September 15, 2023, 04:40:36 AM
One of my favorites!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 15, 2023, 11:29:51 PM
One of my favorites!

He was from your neck of the woods, right? He did loads of session work for Fraternity Records back in the day.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 18, 2023, 11:12:42 AM
I'm still on the fence myself about the BBA box set.  Right after I posted I found out Golden Earring was releasing a remastered and expanded version of Cut.  So I immediately pre-ordered that.  Whether or not I'll want to pre-order yet another CD is debatable.  The Golden Earring box set consists of two CDs and a DVD.  At only $30, it's definitely a better deal than the $50 BBA cd set.  However, I might add that this may be more of a deal for Europeans than Americans.  Because I suspect that DVD won't play in the U.S.  According to the Steve Hoffman forum, it probably won't play.  That isn't stopping me from buying it, though.  The two CDs will at least play and that is my third favorite Golden Earring album anyway. 

The DVD is PAL/0 format.

I got it. The BBA box. The remix is spectacular, Beck, Bogert & Appice in your living room. Yes, they were an instrumentally powerful, inventive and even humorous trio. You can hear that Beck is already straining at the leash to leave conventional rock behind, discovering chromatic lines in the process, and develop into a Jazz direction. The Appice/Bogert rhythm section is sublime (and very rock). Alas!, the better, more transparent sound is also more unforgiving as regards the Achilles' Heel vocals, compared to these guys (all three) vocally, Lonesome Dave of Foghat isn't Dave Peverett, but Dave Pavarotti.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTh3D0C_mB9jEUPdf4rKJF-yzY-DRC9lNyREnBHqM-NKk-eFudA6VoG5urYQgURpS71hT0&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 18, 2023, 12:32:10 PM
With a good review like that, it looks like I may also have to get it.  My Golden Earring box set hasn't even arrived yet, but I guess there is no harm in having two box sets at the same time.  I wasn't planning on that, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 18, 2023, 02:31:22 PM
Looking forward to the live album of the Icelandic band The Vintage Caravan.

Here's an appetizer ;-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMsdnGWcQs

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 18, 2023, 09:33:05 PM
Dictators rule! (I mean what else can they do?) Ross the Boss' lead guitar is 2 die 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuHWP8rFhMs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 18, 2023, 09:35:45 PM
Looking forward to the live album of the Icelandic band The Vintage Caravan.

Here's an appetizer ;-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMsdnGWcQs

They're good, have a few of their CDs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 19, 2023, 10:28:06 AM
In the Lonnie Mack video…SLIGHTLY off??  I couldn’t even figure out how far off it was.  Nice tune, well played, but watching his hands was disorienting. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2023, 11:56:39 AM
Uncle Robert (or Auntie Roberta?) plus local German talent doing Geezer Butler's favorite (no joke!) Judas Priest song (certainly one of their dumbest and most un-elegant compositions, never liked the minorish verse morphing into a major chorus without changing the keynote/tonic):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeupJhvHanA

Sigh, Doro has been singing English for more than forty years now (and lived in NYC for several years), but still sounds as hilariously kraut as a Nazi spy girl in a WWII US propaganda B movie. Sie ist offensichtlich kein Fremdsprachentalent.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 19, 2023, 03:12:16 PM
With a good review like that, it looks like I may also have to get it.  My Golden Earring box set hasn't even arrived yet, but I guess there is no harm in having two box sets at the same time.  I wasn't planning on that, though.

Michael, the true gem of the box is the second live recording from the Rainbow Theatre in London in 1974. That has never been released before because it was deemed lost. It's basically BBA's shelved second album performed live (the band was dissatisfied with the production of the studio recording and considered rerecording it live). Hence, hardly any tracks that are already featured on the Budokan recording from a year before are doubled here. As Bogert was not happy with his singing that night, he redid his vocals in the aftermath. (Did I just hear someone cry Thin Lizzy or Judas Priest?  ;) ). The result is that the vocal performance on the later London recording is much better. And the band is more inspired and together instrumentally. ABSOF-U-C-KINLUTELY RECOMMENDED!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 19, 2023, 03:44:49 PM
I ordered it.  It should arrive soon.  ;D

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 19, 2023, 10:37:17 PM
In the Lonnie Mack video…SLIGHTLY off??  I couldn’t even figure out how far off it was.  Nice tune, well played, but watching his hands was disorienting.

His hands are about 2 seconds behind the soundtrack.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 20, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
https://youtu.be/V2nqTybD3PU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2023, 05:43:40 AM
Not a song that someone Chuck's age back then (32) could perform today with those lyrics and not elicit some sharp, indrawn breaths ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLV4NGpoy_E

Ah yes, those innocent times that weren't quite so innocent. Imagine a black rap artist transporting the same message today on prime time TV.

I swear, whenever I hear that song or Surfin' USA and don't listen closely to the lyrics right from the start , but just foot-tap along, I never realize until the lyrics of the chorus which song I'm actually listening to - I'm probably not the only one either!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35sK-1qaZAA

Anyway, black Chuck drew the blueprint for white rock'n'roll guitar - eternal thanks for that and his perceptive/witty lyrics.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 20, 2023, 09:46:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwauzSiSRBg

Chuck Berry was just way ahead of his time.  This song, which influenced Sweet Little Sixteen, came out in 1955.  How many people in 1955 were doing songs like this?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on September 20, 2023, 11:01:04 AM
I think of the Jump Blues records of the ‘40’s as being the inspiration for those suggestive and double meaning early rock and roll lyrics. And see Little Richard being much wilder than Chuck ever was. Those Specialty recordings are still the real thing.
I do believe Berry was one of the greatest writers of the last century. And am grateful he inspired so many to pick up the guitar and start ringing the bell.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 20, 2023, 01:57:28 PM
I think of the Jump Blues records of the ‘40’s as being the inspiration for those suggestive and double meaning early rock and roll lyrics. And see Little Richard being much wilder than Chuck ever was. Those Specialty recordings are still the real thing.
I do believe Berry was one of the greatest writers of the last century. And am grateful he inspired so many to pick up the guitar and start ringing the bell.

I look at Chuck Berry as someone who actually helped invent rock and roll. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 20, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
I think of the Jump Blues records of the ‘40’s as being the inspiration for those suggestive and double meaning early rock and roll lyrics. And see Little Richard being much wilder than Chuck ever was. Those Specialty recordings are still the real thing.
I do believe Berry was one of the greatest writers of the last century. And am grateful he inspired so many to pick up the guitar and start ringing the bell.

Little Richard was wild, but in a very youthfully frantic (six years younger than Chuck), non-intimidating showbiz way. Chuck OTOH was a world-weary, grown man - there was always something darker lurking there, perhaps that is why his lyrics resonated more with people.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on September 20, 2023, 05:15:10 PM
Richard was a screamer , and a gay one to boot, Berry was a poet.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 20, 2023, 10:17:00 PM
Just uploaded. Dr. John, always understated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufmxppGxiYI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2023, 12:25:44 AM
Richard was a screamer , and a gay one to boot, Berry was a poet.

True, Richard was like this exotic wild animal kicking safely in its cage for public view, but Berry was a perceptive observer who knew a thing or two.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2023, 08:11:00 AM
Just uploaded. Dr. John, always understated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufmxppGxiYI

Yes, you'd hardly notice him in a crowd.

May I brag a little lot? Vielen Dank. I saw him as a solo performer, just him and a grand piano, in a Midtown club in NYC in 1988/89. No, not a rock club where you drink beer with ice from a pitcher as is customary in the US, but in one of those seated posh places where you languish in a business suit after work and sip wine or a cocktail. Can't have been more than 50 people there of which less than half even knew who he was though "Right Place, Wrong Time" met some recognition in the second half of the set. His career must have really been in the doldrums at that point, he only saw some (deserved!) reappreciation again after the Millenium.

Bragging part over.

Inevitably so,

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we must however end this artist chain ... with - sigh - Deep Purple !!! When will those lost recordings of him with Tommy Bolin (and Alphonse Mouzon) recorded somewhere in LA in 1975 finally see a release?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRXfk4ikH04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EINslCAhVqw&t=17s

A YouTube post by Alphonse:

"I'm the drummer on this song! Tommy Bolin and I recorded several tunes in the studio with Dr. John after Tommy had played on my MIND TRANSPLANT album in 1975 out in Los Angeles. I have this on a cassette. Too bad it was never released as an album and CD!! RIP Tommy!"


Some session background:

Fans of Tommy Bolin have heard the stories, now some audio evidence has surfaced that Tommy did in fact record with Dr. John.  Why these tracks were never used is anybody's guess.  Enjoy, folks!!

Dr John with:
 
Tommy Bolin guitar, Stanley Sheldon, bass, Al Mouzon, drums
and other unknown players.  Daniel Kortchmar, guitar, Fred Staehle, drums, and Alvin Robinson, guitar, were also involved in the sessions with  Dr. John and Tommy Bolin, but exactly which songs they played on is not clear from my research. It's definitely Al Mouzon on drums on this track. Three songs have surfaced among collectors but there may be more out there ... Daniel Kortchmar recalls that they did a "rock" version of the Jimmy Cliff song " The Harder They Come."


Tommy's and Mac's sartorial styles matched nicely too.

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/04/98/ab/0498ab97330c7e511a86a95239dd9a5a.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: lowend1 on September 21, 2023, 09:42:34 AM
Not a song that someone Chuck's age back then (32) could perform today with those lyrics and not elicit some sharp, indrawn breaths ...
Ah yes, those innocent times that weren't quite so innocent. Imagine a black rap artist transporting the same message today on prime time TV.

The Dead Boys and Starz both upped the ante in the 70s...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPMgiGWPgvw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O18EVyHs1ks
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 21, 2023, 10:52:09 AM
I had forgotten both about the lyrics and the awful mock-Frampton solo of the Starz tune, not sure which is worse! And the female protagonist of the song beats Chuck’s by a year, she’s only fifteen.

And then there are of course the intrepid street poets of Nickelback:

"You're so much cooler
When you never pull it out
Cause you look so much cuter
With something in your mouth
"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQKqLGcoZmE



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 21, 2023, 11:33:42 PM
Recent upload to the official Midnight Special channel.

That's Johnny's future wife Susan on stage. Randy Jo Hobbs on bass.

I'm sure there must be a Blackmore connection.

https://youtu.be/ZqhrIXj0wEI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 22, 2023, 01:50:58 AM
Very cool. That Midnight Special YouTube channel is on a roll.
Lots of very cool videos have been surfacing lately
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 22, 2023, 02:17:35 AM
Bill McClintock made new mashup.

Aretha Sabbath (Randy, Jakey an Zakk are also chiming in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7DC6qSlzs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 05:27:28 AM
Recent upload to the official Midnight Special channel.

That's Johnny's future wife Susan on stage. Randy Jo Hobbs on bass.

I'm sure there must be a Blackmore connection.

https://youtu.be/ZqhrIXj0wEI

Your wish is my command, Dave:

(https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-johnny-winter-is-one-of-the-best-blues-players-in-the-world-he-s-very-underrated-ritchie-blackmore-2-82-70.jpg)

“I knew that question (on Stevie Ray Vaughn) was coming. His death was very tragic, but I’m surprised that everybody thinks he was such a brilliant player when there are people like Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Peter Green and Mick Taylor; Johnny Winter, who is one of the best blues players in the world, is also very underrated. His vibrato is incredible. Stevie Ray Vaughan was very intense. Maybe that’s what caught everybody’s attention. As a player, he didn’t do anything amazing.”

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If Cozy was awed by the possibility of working with his hero – check out the similarities between the pair’s barnets! – he didn’t let it show, and upon entering the audition room, legend has it that he told Beck: “Get rid of all the others – I’m your new drummer!” Cozy duly joined the new-look Beck Group for two albums – 71’s ‘Rough And Ready’ and the following year’s ‘Jeff Beck Group’.

“Jeff Beck was god in those days,” said Cozy 1995. “Everywhere he played was sold out and I’ve never seen that kind of adulation since. After two albums with Jeff, I left and went to the States where I was either going to join Johnny Winter or Spirit.”


They actually jammed as a trio for a few days - with Rick Derringer on bass. Winter wanted Cozy Powell to join him, Cozy was up to it, but wanted Rick Derringer to stay on board playing bass - I guess he had a Beck, Bogert & Appice or West, Bruce & Laing setup in mind -, but Rick didn't see his future as a full-time bassist. Too bad, Winter, Powell & Derringer might have really gone somewhere as an arena act trio. I would regard Powell as anything but a laid-back Blues drummer (though he would later on play with Peter Green's Splinter Group), but 70ies Johnny Winter always had that very frantic energy which might have worked well with Powell's high energy drumming - with Derringer holding it all together on bass and doing these amazing unisono runs with Winter.

Cozy would later on meet Suzi Quatro in England and she played bass (and audibly also sang) on his first solo single.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFw4RdacxE,


Given that Dave remains both adamant and very vocal about how Suzi Q and Rick D are one and the same person, this lends further credibility to his theory.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 05:46:55 AM
Bill McClintock made new mashup.

Aretha Sabbath (Randy, Jakey an Zakk are also chiming in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7DC6qSlzs

That's a nice one. Supernaut was always one of the more RnB songs of Sabbath and the mash-up reminds me of this performance here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTL3Z1zGHt8

Gillan was at odds with much of Sabbath's older material, but he liked that particular song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ALHhi3FAPQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 22, 2023, 06:10:59 AM
Quote
“I knew that question (on Stevie Ray Vaughn) was coming. His death was very tragic, but I’m surprised that everybody thinks he was such a brilliant player when there are people like Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Peter Green and Mick Taylor; Johnny Winter, who is one of the best blues players in the world, is also very underrated. His vibrato is incredible. Stevie Ray Vaughan was very intense. Maybe that’s what caught everybody’s attention. As a player, he didn’t do anything amazing.”

Aha, because the Wigged Minstrel said so, you think Stevie Ray Vaughan didn't do anything amazing  :o
My goodness, that buffoon is even more silly than I thought he was.
You have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see the genius of SRV. :popcorn:




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 06:19:28 AM
Caaaaaaalm down. I prefer Winter's playing too (long before I knew that Ritchie had formed a positive opinion on him: one of my classmates in the 70ies was an absolute Winter nut and drowned me with tapes of him, he thought Winter better than anyone, Hendrix included, I knew his Captured Live!

(https://i.discogs.com/1mAsdyv4rbWRogXzChpQWhMMTk9IqYipo6ppmRJVdxI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:591/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk5MDg0/ODktMTQ5MjIzNjAy/NC0zMTM3LmpwZWc.jpeg)

forwards, backwards + sideways), Winter's playing was as raw and unfiltered (or even abrasive) as Rory Gallagher's. SRV sounded polished in comparison, but then he was a creature of the 80ies as are obviously you!

SRV was a capable guitarist with a nice tone, no doubt, it escapes me what was supposedly special about his songwriting. (Granted, Johnny Winter or Jeff Beck weren't great songwriters either.) The best songs he (SRV) played on were written by David Bowie and produced by Nile Rodgers.

There I said it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 22, 2023, 07:58:01 AM


SRV was a capable guitarist with a nice tone, no doubt, it escapes me what was supposedly special about his songwriting.

Haha, we're talking about being an amazing guitarist here. Not amazing songwriter. Don't change the subject, you rascal! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 08:12:02 AM
Ok, let's try again then:

SRV was a noteworthy guitarist, popular in the 80ies, who exploited the vast possibilities of the Blues scale to their fullest extent and left us much too soon.

Better? I tend to be good at obituaries. And truthful.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 22, 2023, 08:31:37 AM
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on September 22, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
I'd say that just because they shared the same bassplayer SRV and Johnny Winter are'nt comparable beyond being primarily blues guitarists/singers. Winter had a more rough edge and different feel. SRV was more polished in sound and more ....let's say accurate. I prefer to listen to Johnny but both were amazing guitar players.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 09:39:30 AM
Amen. Two hours of Johnny Winter on slide (accuracy - what's that?) all over can start to grate.  :mrgreen:

Speaking of reliving the 80ies, this guy sounds incredibly fresh for a 74-year-old ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Apw5LwZcgE&t=10s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8pN5V_Pig&t=4s

Together with Dave, who sends me rare recordings of him, I'm the only unabashed Rick Springfield fan here! Dave is just a bit more shy about it though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 22, 2023, 02:21:57 PM
I discovered this band a few days ago.  It's an LA band.  They've been around a few years, but the singer readily admits they're still a struggling band.  But to me this is still better than the pop princess crap heard all over America. 

https://youtu.be/3W1Jm2jF8MI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lgcqXmYVks
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 22, 2023, 03:07:02 PM
I like their own song better than the Norman Greenbaum cover which though spirited (no pun intended) adds nothing new.

With the right hard rock/heavy metal label behind them and a tour as opening act for a more popular genre act like, say, Halestorm, they could probably go somewhere. If I was their A&R man, I'd say her hair dye will have to go - their music isn't edgy or pop enough for that. Doesn't fit. Hard Rock/Heavy Metal fans are inherently conservative and have expectations.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 22, 2023, 06:25:34 PM
...

Together with Dave, who sends me rare recordings of him, I'm the only unabashed Rick Springfield fan here! Dave is just a bit more shy about it though.

I just sent you a rare Springfield CD -- Dusty Springfield sings Buffalo Springfield. Recorded in Homer Simpson's home town of Springfield.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 22, 2023, 06:27:47 PM
Anyway, SRV brought Lonnie Mack to a younger audience, and IMHO that was a good thing.

https://youtu.be/2q_fEe-aFjo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 22, 2023, 07:32:37 PM
I like their own song better than the Norman Greenbaum cover which though spirited (no pun intended) adds nothing new.

With the right hard rock/heavy metal label behind them and a tour as opening act for a more popular genre act like, say, Halestorm, they could probably go somewhere. If I was their A&R man, I'd say her hair dye will have to go - their music isn't edgy or pop enough for that. Doesn't fit. Hard Rock/Heavy Metal fans are inherently conservative and have expectations.

The band, like I said, is based in Los Angeles, but the singer is from Australia.  She has been here since 2014.  I don't know if that's long enough to fully absorb American culture or not.  But I once had a friend who was a nurse who told me that when a woman dyed her hair red like that many men instantly assumed she was a hooker.  People do tend to like to make snap judgments and generalize.  I like red hair, although I prefer the natural red you often see, for instance, in Ireland.  Still, a dyed red to me can also look good.  If I see a woman like that, though, I don't assume anything.  Certainly, I don't assume a woman is a hooker just because she has taken a bottle of dye and put it on her head.  As for the nurse, she stopped dyeing her hair red because of the comments she kept getting, especially from older male patients. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 23, 2023, 02:20:24 AM
If I was their A&R man, I'd say her hair dye will have to go - their music isn't edgy or pop enough for that. Doesn't fit. Hard Rock/Heavy Metal fans are inherently conservative and have expectations.

 :rolleyes:

Whoaaah Uwe! Not edgy or pop enough for that colour?
Since when do Hard Rock / Heavy Metal fans judge anybody by the colour of their hair?!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/bf/86/27bf86b567e9b2635a4efe9a5444171c.jpg)




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2023, 01:34:25 PM
She (the singer of EW) looks more Indie/Goth than the well-played, but rather rock-conventional AC/DCish track would let you think. I’m speaking strictly from a “marketing a product” perspective. The way she looked I would have musically expected something like Paramore. And at the same time, it’s not really against the grain enough to be attention-grabbing.

Again, all this just from  a commercial image viewpoint, she can of course wear any hair color she likes.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 23, 2023, 02:59:41 PM
I just sent you a rare Springfield CD -- Dusty Springfield sings Buffalo Springfield. Recorded in Homer Simpson's home town of Springfield.

But I was essentially only giving the facts as they were, with just the tiniest touch of poetic license, Dave!

Given Rick Springfield's earliest involvement with the cartoon genre, it's criminal he never had the chance for a cameo with Homer. It was 50 years ago today ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxY-XEv2BuM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 24, 2023, 11:30:42 PM
Anytime is Dave Edmunds time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE5QyRUO76c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2023, 02:16:27 PM
:rolleyes:

Whoaaah Uwe! Not edgy or pop enough for that colour?
Since when do Hard Rock / Heavy Metal fans judge anybody by the colour of their hair?!


Returning to our pet subject, Rob, your good countrywoman Ms Sonia 'Anubis' Nusselder, a sex six string heavy metal meid from Haarlem so to speak, seems to understand the concept of (un)dressing for the occasion & meeting (or surpassing) expectations better than you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEVT9FMf-PM

And yes, since you asked, without all the make-up (not my preference in any case), Mevrouw Nusselder looks enticingly Dutch (and pretty).

(https://metalitalia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/CRYPTA-Sonia-Anubis.jpg)

Or is that a picture of Mijnheer Vandenberg ?

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2023, 12:31:25 AM
Haha, they look and sound as if time stood still in 1985.
Are they for real, or are they a parody act?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2023, 03:21:04 AM
They missed the train by roughly four decades, true, but Sonia is an 80ies hair metal geek and earnest about it. She’s played in various metal outfits of different sub-genres, but 80ies poppy glam metal is her thing and Cobra Spell her project.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2023, 08:31:10 AM
I think I saw her guesting in a TV show a while ago.
I wasn't impresssed by her guitar skills.
Lots of hair flying around.


EDIT:
found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8sOfCYTa0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2023, 08:49:25 AM
Don't be a grumpy white old man, Rob, she was born late 1998 and very likely heard more Yngwie Malmsteen, Adrian Vandenberg and Bruce Kulick/Tommy Thayer (she's a KISS fan) than Chuck Berry or Scotty Moore in her protected life. She's certainly better on guitar than I will ever be on bass - to this day I can't tap for shit and it's not that I wouldn't want to do it once in a while, I just can't do it physically, period. I'm amazed by people who can even though they all tend to play the same lines.

I welcome anyone her age who puts that much effort into something as old-fashioned as guitar playing. She'll have less hair and more taste in twenty years from now (and swapped her pointy Jackson for something nicely vintage-looking in the meantime), you just wait. Or Alice Cooper will hire her in a few years, he has a penchant for female guitar talent.

My eternal female guitarist crush is still Kelly Johnson from Girlschool, she was a bit Farrah Fawcett with a Les Paul!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNWo93fPG8

I saw her and her girls open for Rush early 80ies and while her and Geddy's singing voice are in a similar range, I found hers more alluring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA1ZZAQgLcU

Not sure whether Kelly heard more Chuck Berry than Sonia, but likely - with some Mick Ronson, Marc Bolan and Johnny Thunders thrown in for good measure (who all heard a lot of Chuck Berry I'm sure, with Marc concentrating on Eddie Cochran too!).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2023, 08:55:12 AM
 I don't care what or who she heard. That piece she played was mediocre at best. Compensated by (white) boot kicking and hair flying around.
The fact that you can't do it, doesn't make her playing any better.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2023, 09:15:09 AM
Ouch, how harsh you can be, Holländer!

Ok, let's turn to some innocent, apolitical Americana then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5aiOuOd-Uw


And since we mentioned Alice Cooper ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJwVRUMeqw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2023, 09:40:57 AM
In 5 years they can change that title into I'm eighty.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
And in six years he can just jumble the digits of the original!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWLY--8Sv4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2023, 01:23:53 PM
Sometimes, I'm real happy we didn't win the Crusader Wars, who knows where culture might have gone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeOSgsJJ12M

And thinking about it, if this wasn't reason enough for Persia to legitimately obliterate Sparta, what would have been?

Where is Ursula the Sea Witch when you need her? She can cast spells that can make women's voices go away!

(https://media.tenor.com/79ajcomWch8AAAAC/voice-little-mermaid.gif)
(https://media.tenor.com/Ie-B_S7lEoQAAAAM/ursula-little-mermaid.gif)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
All surf guitar music stems originally from Taiwan, you guys lied to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOn7uCux0uc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on September 28, 2023, 03:40:44 PM
She really needs some distortion on that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2023, 03:58:49 PM
Maybe Joey can lend her something?

(https://media.tenor.com/4-BjQ5lFF2oAAAAM/manowar-courage.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2023, 04:22:49 PM
Finally a decent version of that song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can0EinDh3E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2023, 04:36:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NbZFkRsPg&
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2023, 07:21:50 PM
Finally a decent version of that song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can0EinDh3E

Not shrill enough to be a Robert Plant clone.  ;)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2023, 10:03:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NbZFkRsPg&

OMG, the Mongol hordes!

(https://media.tenor.com/GA4o4V45DqgAAAAC/shan-yu-mulan.gif)

Never mind how Shan Yu tried to kill Mulan, I have two of The Hu's albums. If you read the translations of their lyrics though, they haven't left their raid & pillage heritage quite behind yet.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 28, 2023, 10:12:53 PM
Not shrill enough to be a Robert Plant clone.  ;)

It does less sexual innuendo-filled ooohs and aaahs too. And has the decency
and decorum to keep its waist and torso covered with feathers.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/E9kcZyq1L6aYM/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 29, 2023, 12:42:45 AM
In terms of sexiness, they were about on the same level for me, with Nena possibly having a very slight edge.  There was no contest going on, but I guess that's just the way my brain was perceiving things.  There was a lot to process for hormone-driven males. 

UWE's EDIT:Michael in all his innocence was led astray by me, this belongs to the "I can relate"-thread and can be found there now as well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 29, 2023, 05:01:47 AM
In terms of sexiness, they were about on the same level for me, with Nena possibly having a very slight edge.  There was no contest going on, but I guess that's just the way my brain was perceiving things.  There was a lot to process for hormone-driven males.

wrong topic?

Uwe's edit: Nothing escapes a Dutchman's eyes and arcane logic!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 29, 2023, 05:13:43 AM
If we assume that Michael really meant to compare Robert Plant's with (Mulan's nemesis) Shan Yu's respective sexual allure to him, then he did not stray (that) far. Hormone-driven brains work that way.

PS: Actually, I am as usual the guilty party. Michael's hormones would have kept him on the straight and narrow had my previous Flying Colors post (intended for this "So what have you been listening to lately"-thread and now belatedly moved to and included below, but initially in the wrong thread) not derailed the poor guy. I will make amends.

For Oscar Wilde's sister Kim, Nena, general musings on sexual allure + armpit hair, please visit the "I can relate"-thread.

https://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=12455.0




(https://i.gifer.com/AAgk.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 29, 2023, 05:25:51 AM
You can do weird meters and still be tuneful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0wZ1jLi6PU



Here, Brian Wilson would approve. And Brian May too. Regarding Steve Morse's solo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBo3TVaDK3M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on September 29, 2023, 05:15:40 PM
Now that we've gotten to Nena, Uwe needs to connect her to Deep Purple.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on September 30, 2023, 09:39:02 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on September 30, 2023, 10:01:13 AM
Watch this space!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on September 30, 2023, 10:24:20 PM
I'm still on the fence myself about the BBA box set.  Right after I posted I found out Golden Earring was releasing a remastered and expanded version of Cut.  So I immediately pre-ordered that.  Whether or not I'll want to pre-order yet another CD is debatable.  The Golden Earring box set consists of two CDs and a DVD.  At only $30, it's definitely a better deal than the $50 BBA cd set.  However, I might add that this may be more of a deal for Europeans than Americans.  Because I suspect that DVD won't play in the U.S.  According to the Steve Hoffman forum, it probably won't play.  That isn't stopping me from buying it, though.  The two CDs will at least play and that is my third favorite Golden Earring album anyway. 

The DVD is PAL/0 format.

I'm replying to my own post on purpose.  I need to add some updated details.  In spite of the fact that everyone seems to think this DVD won't play in the U.S., that is not correct.  I just got the box set and the DVD plays fine on my DVD player bought in the U.S.  This is just a normal player.  It seems the "Cut" DVD should play on all players.  Of course, I can't guarantee that, but that would be my guess based on it playing on my player.

The quality of the CDs is very good, possibly the best of any that have been released.  Also, this is one of Golden Earring's best albums anyway.  It was supposed to be their swan song, but ended up as a success instead. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2023, 11:17:41 AM
Now that we've gotten to Nena, Uwe needs to connect her to Deep Purple.


1. Uwe Fahrenkrog-Petersen (UFP)

Nena is like Alice Cooper, it started as a band and became a solo artist. In its first five to six years, Nena operated as a democratic band. The girl singer didn't even write all of the lyrics, much less the music. 99 Luftballons' music was written by UFP (as were many other Nena hits of the early years), the lyrics were penned by guitarist Carlo Karges.

(https://szm-media.sueddeutsche.de/image/szm/e138fd704cfdbd9e18c03fb8a9e99f86/t33l0w1280h960/640/image.jpeg)
(UFP to the right of Nena, Carlo Karges to the left).

When the original band dissolved, UFP co-founded Voodoo X with Jean Beauvoir (ex-Plasmatics, ex-Litte Steven & The Disciples of Soul, co-writer of Paul Stanley).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-5E6D-jUZ8

Anyway, UFP came from a musical household (his brother is a music professor) and his instrument of (his parents') choice was the organ. He first realized that you could also rock out with it when he heard Deep Purple's In Rock and Jon Lord's Hammond growling and hissing through Marshall stacks there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DECsBjNqHE

Of course, little Uwe's home organ sounded nothing like it so me moved to the cellar, built his own little distortion effect and proceeded to learn Jon's solos off In Rock. Come Christmas, he was to play before relatives the "Music of the Season", but little Uwe chose to give them a treat of distorted Jon Lord solos. He never looked back (or had to do family Christmas Specials again).

He's a producer, musicals and soundtrack writer today and has worked with Nena again (as her producer) after the Millenium. He also produced Kim Wilde's comeback album around that time and wrote songs for NSYNC. And still sometimes guests with Nena ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPxpnJl5FGY

2. Van Romaine (VR)

VR has been Nena's drummer (once she turned solo) for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHLcoR9U2_M

He has also played with Enrique Iglesias. But he's a proggie at heart, having been a decade-long member of the Steve Morse Band and also of the Dixie Dregs (when Rod Morgenstein is not around). Steve's day job, we note, used to be with our subject matter for almost three decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGmZAmpKZA
(Steve's solo spot with the Steve Morse Band during a restaging of Purple's Concerto for Group &
Orchestra of 1969 thirty years later at again the Royal Albert Hall, VR on drums)

3. David Coverdale (DC) on the subject of balloons as such

As 99 Luftballons was climbing up the charts, German music mag Musik Express asked DC (at that point promoting the Saints & Sinners album and a new Whitesnake line up in Germany)

(https://www.giginjapan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/white-snake-83offenbach1-768x759.jpg)

to comment blind test-style on some singles they played to him. He tore into U2's New Year's Day (Is that The Doors? Too much echo-o-o-o ... Mind you, The Doors' music is even more old-fashioned than mine and that is saying a lot ...) and was disappointed about Bob Seger's Makin' Thunderbirds (That's Bob Seger! I love Bob Seger, but if that is his new single, then he should perhaps go back to the 50ies when they were still making Thunderbirds ... The piano sounds like someone is rolling an orange up and down the keys ...). The last single played to him was 99 Luftballons and he opined on its musical strengths as follows:

"What is she singing about? 99 what? (Uwe's edit: DC had lived near Munich for a few years in the late 70ies, so had some command of Deutsch) Luftballons? Balloons you say, what about her balloons, is she well-endowed, ja? I just luuuuv' me some balloons! (Uwe's edit: Nena was/is at all times an attractive woman, but busty she was/is not, in fact more the opposite + to her credit: she never tried to improve on nature either). Nena is wonderful, danke schön, I think I just fell in love."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 01, 2023, 04:01:37 PM
I don't know how many other people this affected, but Nena had an influence on how I felt about the German language.  Especially in the past, Americans were exposed to the harsh sounding German like maybe what you hear in north Germany.  Movies about World War II tended to focus on harsh German, for instance.  But then you realize in time there are several German accents.  Many of them sound great (including Nena's.)  I got to learn about this more when I visited Germany in 1988. 

I think I have mentioned this in other posts, but if you ask me now which languages I think sound the best the answer would be German and Portuguese.  I never got the chance to study anything but Spanish when I was young and in school. So learning Spanish was my only choice.  But in my 20s I met some Brazilians, forgot about Spanish (which is similar to Portuguese.) etc.  From that point on I have delved into Portuguese from time to time, but not enough to become fluent.  If I could have delved into German when I was young, I would have done that, too.  It just sounds great, as does Portuguese which I've noted.  I have nothing personally against it or its speakers, but Spanish just doesn't cut it for me. It's just too bland, IMO.  But not German or Portuguese, or French (another amazing language.)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2023, 05:08:05 PM
I think all languages can, at times, sound beautiful OR ugly.

Nena is from a part of Germany where the dialect is essentially no dialect at all, but Hochdeutsch (High German). But it's actually her untutored singing voice and her slightly sloppy pronunciation/rounded off edges that make her German sound more gentle than usual.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 01, 2023, 11:01:21 PM
Listening to Hank tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUmMKgj_cAM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 04, 2023, 04:18:39 PM
Leroy Van Dyke, 94 today. Still doing limited touring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2l1et1GQik

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 05, 2023, 01:41:08 PM
Kick ass Thrash. Great guitar solo. For the record, I don't endorse poisoning preachers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz_oX_aKNRw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
No prudent clergyman will continue to buy in that supermarket anymore! Who knows what they hid in those foodstuff boxes ...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 06, 2023, 05:55:57 PM
Steve Allen trying to prove he was hip to you young folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7SBF-35Es

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 07, 2023, 09:42:44 AM
Listening to the new Vintage Trouble album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-xCsP3FBBs&list=OLAK5uy_nfCdABCW73df5B3hYuBwKvxzG9dvM1wHE&ab_channel=VintageTrouble-Topic
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 07, 2023, 12:46:52 PM
Without me, you wouldn’t even know they existed!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 07, 2023, 02:50:11 PM
Yeah I know. You basically invented them! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 08, 2023, 07:47:34 AM
That’s perhaps overstating things just a little, but didn’t it show how your welfare is always on my mind?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 08, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
https://youtu.be/MbOg5XX9Ud0

A pretty good effort on Secretary Blinken's part.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 09, 2023, 01:52:14 PM
Uploaded bu Sun Records three days ago.

Suzi Quatro & KT Tunstall perform "Overload" together from their new album Face To Face, filmed on location at Canary Wharf in London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjoFI52H_3M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 09, 2023, 03:14:54 PM
That's mommy's little one playing guitar at the far-right.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/30/0007020A00000C1D-0-image-m-24_1422623967919.jpg)

Richie's grown.

(https://focus.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/thumbor/_NKzXbKDUDDcHkKAPJUfxMpccNA=/0x174:2500x1557/1280x853/prod-mh-ireland/4c9991dc-9739-11ed-babd-0210609a3fe2)

That's a good album with Tunstall even though this track isn't among the strongest.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 11, 2023, 10:20:16 PM
Sleepy LaBeef covering Jimmy Reed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXAPV0teUTk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2023, 08:31:15 AM
Immaculate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7tvUaIQPkI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2023, 09:10:06 AM
Some really obscure Limey beat band with silly haircuts and suits that never went anywhere. They even speak a little German, interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laQ2CndwCeM

Never seen this before, extremely good quality + German Fräuleins don't scream as much during the songs! Danke schön for not ruining this artifact for posterity!

Embarrassingly, I never knew that they performed Yesterday live. :-[ Are my ears deceiving me or is Lennon even more pitch-perfect and tone-accurate than Macca on the songs he sings lead on?

Ringo cracking up behind his kit at 13:26 as Paul misses a lead vocal is très priceless.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 12, 2023, 09:51:46 AM
George Tomsco's Fireballs hung it up last year after a 65-year (off and on) run. This is from 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiBZ5ZH8200
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2023, 08:36:12 PM
Ah yes, metallic bliss unfolds ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQh2xNa_Bv4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 13, 2023, 07:32:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laQ2CndwCeM

Wow, thanks for that!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 15, 2023, 01:04:01 PM
I know it's cheesy, still love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvuV7fsVW-c

Brad Gillis is an unsung guitar hero.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 15, 2023, 02:39:57 PM
There is nothing like Italian folk music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3qr6AXmhA&t=272s

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 15, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hoY1iWfUs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 15, 2023, 10:07:40 PM
Some really obscure Limey beat band with silly haircuts and suits that never went anywhere. They even speak a little German, interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laQ2CndwCeM

Never seen this before, extremely good quality + German Fräuleins don't scream as much during the songs! Danke schön for not ruining this artifact for posterity!

Embarrassingly, I never knew that they performed Yesterday live. :-[ Are my ears deceiving me or is Lennon even more pitch-perfect and tone-accurate than Macca on the songs he sings lead on?

Ringo cracking up behind his kit at 13:26 as Paul misses a lead vocal is très priceless.  ;D

I was assuming I had probably seen that.  But I hadn't.  Even from the first, I always considered John Lennon to have the best voice of anyone in the Beatles.  I think it sounds pitch-perfect and tone-accurate because that's just the way he sang.  I liked Paul's voice, too, but it's his bass playing which completely stunned me.  It was only after George Harrison came out with his solo albums that he became my favorite Beatle/ex-Beatle, though. 

Despite the screw-up on "I'm Down." that was interesting hearing that.  I always liked those songs where Paul moved away from his natural smooth voice, like on "Kansas City." etc.  I'm not sure how far Paul would have progressed doing the song without John Lennon's earnest encouragement. 

This German clip is outstanding.  I don't think there are too many things out there like this.  Of course, when it comes to Germany, the Beatles owed a lot to their Hamburg gigs.  When they went back to England as a transformed band, the audiences could hardly believe what they were hearing.  I think that's when Beatlemania actually began, spontaneously in those English post-Hamburg audiences. 

https://youtu.be/4xvW-Nf9VAw

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 17, 2023, 02:14:27 AM
https://youtu.be/6CzrYXcXweI

Possibly my favorite song by the Kinks, although there are quite a few good ones to choose from.  It's pretty hard to just pick one. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 17, 2023, 04:51:52 AM
We cover some Fireballs tunes for the instrumental Mexican project.

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8hRCwzS/IMG-9376.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 17, 2023, 06:27:06 AM
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/speedy-gonzales-running-t0uvc86wu0vlqdwv.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 17, 2023, 08:00:41 AM
We cover some Fireballs tunes for the instrumental Mexican project.

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8hRCwzS/IMG-9376.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Me gustan los sombreros.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 17, 2023, 08:36:24 AM
I wonder why there's an accent mark on the 'e'.  The penultimate syllable in Spanish is already the default.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 17, 2023, 08:38:05 AM
Mighty Quo at their peak!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuHXnPudtX0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 17, 2023, 10:09:51 AM
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/speedy-gonzales-running-t0uvc86wu0vlqdwv.gif)

I miss ol' Speedy Gonzales.  And the Tijuana Toads.

But they're terribly, terribly, stereotypical, don'cha know?

There are also a few old westerns around with happy Mexican bandidos; the ones who laugh and make jokes before they shoot you.  Which also brings to mind the classic line, "I don't no steenkin' badges!"

Which for some reason brings to mind this album by the Baja Marimba band....on the back side of the album, the guy taking a leak is missing and the band is looking into the water trying to find him.

(https://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/B/Baja/bajaf.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 17, 2023, 12:39:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZW8U9bbmM&t=22s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 17, 2023, 12:46:56 PM
His wife Cindy is one hell of a drummer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 18, 2023, 08:54:35 AM
Thank you Dave, that Santana number is fantastic!!

That's one of the most compelling tunes I've heard in a long time - you just start moving with it.  Great, classic tune.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 18, 2023, 10:12:32 AM
His wife Cindy is one hell of a drummer.

Saw her with Lenny Kravitz.
30 years ago... can't believe it's really that long ago :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ikdh9k2FLE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2023, 11:43:16 AM
Oh, that was her? I remember the female drummer, but I never made the connection.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 18, 2023, 05:11:23 PM
Thank you Dave, that Santana number is fantastic!!

That's one of the most compelling tunes I've heard in a long time - you just start moving with it.  Great, classic tune.

Yep.

Check out the Songs Around The World playlist on that YT channel. Some great stuff there. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0-WXUFY2k



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 18, 2023, 05:15:12 PM
Earlier today I watched a nice interview with Gene Chandler (https://wgnradio.com/bob-sirott/video-rb-legend-gene-chandler-remembers-recording-his-hit-song-duke-of-earl/) from last year so naturally this has been my earworm today.

https://youtu.be/NLeNhQd0Ovo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 18, 2023, 06:22:23 PM
Yep.

Check out the Songs Around The World playlist on that YT channel. Some great stuff there. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0-WXUFY2k

Very nice.  And even Stephen Perkins on drums.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 18, 2023, 11:44:22 PM
Gasp. A Led Zep Song. Here.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 19, 2023, 12:44:58 AM
Yeah ain't it great!

Nice to see Susan Tedeschi and Derk Trucks contributing too.  :)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on October 19, 2023, 09:54:15 AM
Gasp. A Led Zep Song. Here.

Yngwie would agree. He says in this interview he didn't come across Zep much in his formative years but everybody had made in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vznSu-BHyVA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 19, 2023, 10:02:10 AM
I tried listening to that interview. Got to 3 minutes in, but then gave up. Couldn't stand to hear him talk and widdleydiddle any longer  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2023, 03:46:32 PM
There is a geographical divide in Zep appreciation. Zep - on the behest of Peter Grant - focused early on crisscrossing the US, they did comparatively little in Mainland Europe. That showed, Zep were of course also big in Europe, but they were never HUGE like in the US. In places like Germany, France, Italy and Scandinavia, Zep in 1972 probably had a status like, say, Black Sabbath, but they were not in the peak echelons of popularity and sales like DP or even Uriah Heep. You just didn’t see or hear (radio) them often enough in Continental Europe.

It’s often forgotten, but in 1973 DP outsold all other rock bands in the US too - including Zep, Floyd, Grand Funk Railroad and the Stones.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 19, 2023, 05:10:48 PM
I tried listening to that interview. Got to 3 minutes in, but then gave up. Couldn't stand to hear him talk and widdleydiddle any longer  :mrgreen:

That’s too bad, Rob, you missed how he said that he likes Thin Lizzy and the Van Halen debut!

It’s actually a great interview, very musicianly and knowledgeable, live and let live sentiment, self-deprecating humor, killing some myths about himself, not arrogant at all, he’s a changed man from the arrogant, insecure little prick I spoke to 40 years ago at the DiMarzio booth of the Frankfurt Musikmesse. Some of it is self-contradictory (like when he says he loved the VH debut for its live recording ambience, but admits to only using sampled drum sounds today because he can’t stand bleed), but I found it impressive. And he only goes widdly-widdly to demonstrate something, promise! Give it another try, it sure changed how I think of him.

Herr Beato, the Jimmy Stewart of music podcasters combining all lovable American traits, is great at interviewing people, having them relax and getting the best out of them.

4Stringer77, vielen lieben Dank for posting!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 19, 2023, 07:07:19 PM
There is a geographical divide in Zep appreciation. Zep - on the behest of Peter Grant - focused early on crisscrossing the US, they did comparatively little in Mainland Europe. That showed, Zep were of course also big in Europe, but they were never HUGE like in the US. In places like Germany, France, Italy and Scandinavia, Zep in 1972 probably had a status like, say, Black Sabbath, but they were not in the peak echelons of popularity and sales like DP or even Uriah Heep. You just didn’t see or hear (radio) them often enough in Continental Europe.

It’s often forgotten, but in 1973 DP outsold all other rock bands in the US too - including Zep, Floyd, Grand Funk Railroad and the Stones.


I think Deep Purple may have been a little more popular in the U.S. than you realize.  LZ may have been more popular, but DP was still a major force.  Even my sister had Machine Head in her album collection.  Usually, I don't associate her with good music, but there are exceptions.  Her album collection, though, may have been better than mine in a sense.  Because I had band members borrow so many albums and never return them.  One Hendrix album, for instance, is gone and all of Linda Ronstadt.  I made up for Hendrix later by buying every Hendrix CD under the sun, including ones with previously unreleased songs that no one has heard of. 

Peter Grant.  Not a fan.  Every time I see his name, I cringe a little.  I wouldn't have wanted to be in the same room with him.  But whoever was responsible for getting LZ on the radio, that's where they were predominant.  They totally saturated American radio.  I don't know.  That may be something hard to measure.  I just speak from personal experience. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 20, 2023, 08:10:41 AM
That’s too bad, Rob, you missed how he said that he likes Thin Lizzy and the Van Halen debut!

It’s actually a great interview, very musicianly and knowledgeable, live and let live sentiment, self-deprecating humor, killing some myths about himself, not arrogant at all, he’s a changed man from the arrogant, insecure little prick I spoke to 40 years ago at the DiMarzio booth of the Frankfurt Musikmesse. Some of it is self-contradictory (like when he says he loved the VH debut for its live recording ambience, but admits to only using sampled drum sounds today because he can’t stand bleed), but I found it impressive. And he only goes widdly-widdly to demonstrate something, promise! Give it another try, it sure changed how I think of him.

Herr Beato, the Jimmy Stewart of music podcasters combining all lovable American traits, is great at interviewing people, having them relax and getting the best out of them.

4Stringer77, vielen lieben Dank for posting!


Haha, okay I tried it once again took off where I left. Got to the 7 minute mark.
Turns out I can only digest 3 minutes of Yngwie at a time.

He's so full of himself. And the tone of the amp (or processor) is just horrible.


Rick Beato is great though. I always enjoy his videos.




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2023, 09:28:03 AM
I agree that Yngwie is most enjoyable in small doses only. But he used to be much, much worse - these days he's even affable.

Given his doubtless talents, he should have gone further. But he made it real easy for people to dismiss him.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on October 20, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
not my usual type of music but ive been enjoying a deep dive into the back catalogue of local busker turned youtube sensation Ren. His strange blend of hip hop and folk is nicely different

  a lot of his stuff is autobiographical charting his battles with autoimune disease

I also like the fact that a lot of his tunes are episodic, he comes back to them again and again radically reworking or just entirely  new songs with the same theme
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-sFg3rqiao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-sFg3rqiao)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2023, 02:57:07 PM

I think Deep Purple may have been a little more popular in the U.S. than you realize.  LZ may have been more popular, but DP was still a major force.  Even my sister had Machine Head in her album collection.  Usually, I don't associate her with good music, but there are exceptions.  Her album collection, though, may have been better than mine in a sense.  Because I had band members borrow so many albums and never return them.  One Hendrix album, for instance, is gone and all of Linda Ronstadt.  I made up for Hendrix later by buying every Hendrix CD under the sun, including ones with previously unreleased songs that no one has heard of. 

Peter Grant.  Not a fan.  Every time I see his name, I cringe a little.  I wouldn't have wanted to be in the same room with him.  But whoever was responsible for getting LZ on the radio, that's where they were predominant.  They totally saturated American radio.  I don't know.  That may be something hard to measure.  I just speak from personal experience.

I went to an American school from 1973 to 1976, Purple was very popular there, but not with any lead over Led Zep, I'd say they were about equally popular there (as was Grand Funk Railroad). In Germany it was a different matter though. In the first half of the 70ies, it was difficult to find a household in Germany that played rock music that did not own a copy of In Rock or Made in Japan - Purple were ubiquitous. To give you an idea: In Rock reigned on the number one spot of the German album charts for 12 consecutive weeks in the second half of 1970 (yet there wasn't a single on it). There wasn't a record shop that didn't place it in their window. Purple was so prevalent + popular that they were even beginning to encounter resistance, "Not Deep Purple again!" (Nicht schon wieder Deep Purple!) was a popular phrase for anyone with contrarian instincts. Since they were massively successful, they were also perceived as selling out and as the epitome of corporate rock - riots demanding that entrance to their gigs be free were frequent.

I have pet theories why the music of Purple formed such a tight bond with the German psyche (to this day actually):
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 20, 2023, 03:40:06 PM
I think in the U.S. the attitude toward Deep Purple was a natural one.  People listened to them simply because they loved their music.  But with Led Zeppelin, to me it seems like something else was also going on.  Something I don't even fully understand.  So many people even to this day seem to have a cult-like attitude toward LZ.  Also, God forbid if you try to criticize LZ.  If you do, then good luck; you may need it.  I tend to say not much of anything.  But even if I felt I could speak freely, I don't feel I have much wisdom to offer on the matter anyway.  It's just I'm a little puzzled why even now so many fans revere LZ in a way which, as someone who has been involved in music since I was 13 or so, genuinely mystifies me.  I understand that Led Zeppelin is a great band, but I guess I never completely fell under their spell.  I definitely never made listening to them a religious experience like so many others seemed to have done.  I have no criticism of that.  I did it with other bands, like the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Cream.  Speaking of Cream, look at the backlash Jack Bruce got when he dared say anything negative about Led Zeppelin.  Call me old fashioned, but I still believe in free speech.  I guess that makes me a dinosaur in today's world, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2023, 04:08:12 PM
I believe the overt esotericism/spirituality/mysticism that permeated both their music and their lyrics played a large part in Zep's appeal. That spoke to people. They had one foot firmly planted in the Hippie movement (Purple didn't), yet at the same time already took a step into the future by being something like the hardest-rocking New Age band that ever existed. Though Zep weren't really a hard or heavy rock band, much less a heavy metal act at all, they just had a handful of hard & heavy numbers in their oeuvre.

There was always something misty-mysterious and unearthly in Zep's music, lyrics, billowing production, enigmatic album covers and aloof presentation (which I found incredibly pretentious, but I was and remain in an obvious minority!). It gave room for interpretation. Purple weren't quite Foghat yet, but much more straightforward, in-your-face and of this world. Zep's music is more of a half-painted canvas where you don't know whether the end product will be abstract or naturalistic, but you continue painting anyway, you're in it for the journey.

I think I just wrote something very deep and appreciative of them, I really should receive credit for that.

They still had a sloppy guitarist, a heavy-handed, dragging drummer, a singer stealing lyrics either from Tolkien or black Blues greats (and not paying them proper!) plus a hard-to-hear bassist whose very limited improvisational keyboard skills would not have gotten him a job as Jon Lord's keyboard roadie!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on October 20, 2023, 04:15:07 PM
I'm really just guessing, but I think Robert Plant may feel a little embarrassed about it all now.  I believe he knows LZ got more credit than they deserved.  I certainly don't think he has any ego problems. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 20, 2023, 04:27:02 PM
I was lost in the shuffle , and completely missed Led Zep and Purple.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
Joe Lynn Turner's hair follicles might have had issues for a long time, but his pipes sure haven't suffered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IafqN5xEg

And he looks so much better on stage since he has dumped that wig.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 22, 2023, 08:38:25 PM
Paul Westerberg's alter ego Grandpaboy, from the 1997 EP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muTzVERYOts
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 24, 2023, 06:06:02 AM
I discovered this guy from Niger on a list of left-handed guitarists.  Really good stuff. His dancing around the fretboard reminds me of Hendrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZvPoE0EH1o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 24, 2023, 12:52:27 PM
This is cool! Reminds me of these guys here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGJwMhVICg0

which I first heard in Morocco and have since witnessed live in Brussels. They are Tuaregs from the Sahara region in Mali. Their name Tinariwen means desert in the Tuareg language.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 24, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
Mdou Moctar is Tuareg as well!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 24, 2023, 01:16:54 PM
Your link is very cool as well.  What kinda blows me away is what's mentioned on Mdou Moctar's wikipedia page.

"His music first gained attention through a trading network of mobile phones and memory cards in West Africa."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 24, 2023, 01:22:33 PM
He sure looks the part! He probably played at one point with Tinariwen, they've been going for ages and are sort of a musical collective where people hop on and off.

To unacquainted Western ears this "desert ethno blues" sounds like a monotonous drone at first, but if you listen to it long enough it wins this hypnotic trance-like quality and you begin to hear all these poly-rhythmic movements - just don't wait for a chord change to happen anytime quick!  :mrgreen:

The mobile phone density in Northern and Western Africa is higher than in most places in Europe. Given the infrastructure challenges people face there, a cell phone (or more than one ...) becomes key. It's cheaper & quicker to get a mobile network up and running there in even the remotest regions than to build a road.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on October 24, 2023, 01:23:51 PM
I really like it.  I'd love to visit that scene sometime.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 24, 2023, 01:38:53 PM
And then there are these guys, also from Mali:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-Zta6QLms

They could have called themselves Iki Black & The Stooges! You know they have garages in Mali too.  :mrgreen:

Not that the Godfather himself hasn't noticed ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrTXSrGYL7U

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 25, 2023, 08:44:00 AM
You can sing about blow-up rubber dolls and it's still great art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G56DaSAeZfM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 26, 2023, 08:27:45 AM
I love Roxy Music. How about this here?

https://youtu.be/1CzKpjBFwjA?si=iOo6pYqVs7Acjd4Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 26, 2023, 06:46:32 PM
That first Police album in all its immediacy, urgency and freshness stands as one of the strongest debut albums ever in the history of pop music. When I first heard it, I knew they would be huge and I wasn‘t wrong. Hard to believe that at one of their first German gigs as an opener for Dr Feelgood, Dire Straits and Barclay James Harvest at an open air they were actually booed off the stage and had to cut their set short. My countrymen were ignorant.

You can forgive Sting lots of things for the strength of that first album alone. Of course it wouldn‘t have been half as good without Summers' and Copeland's brilliant inputs.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 27, 2023, 07:05:59 AM
I was a little slow to get on board with the Police. It wasn't until the third album that I started to like, and eventually love them. I'm not gonna lie - my interest was partially fueled by reading a Neil  Peart interview where he mentioned really liking Copeland's playing. The added synths helped too. But i did go back and learn to love that debut for what it was. Bold, ballsy, ultra simplistic, and to the point. To this day, I blame Sting for my 80s mullet.  ;D

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 27, 2023, 02:22:18 PM
My mullet influences were Rick Springfield and John Taylor of Duran Duran! I actually showed a picture of Rick in all early 80ies glory to my hairdresser and told her "I want a haircut like that!" - she obliged.  :mrgreen:



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on October 28, 2023, 06:48:06 AM
Another brilliant mash-up by Bill McClintock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BICYZGnNbWk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 29, 2023, 10:21:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FDYyf8Kqrs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 30, 2023, 05:16:43 AM
You already posted this in the past, you're listening to stuff repeatedly!   :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 30, 2023, 08:07:37 AM
You already posted this in the past, you're listening to stuff repeatedly!   :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I've posted a number of Fats videos but not this one.

You can never have too many Fats videos, even if he looks the same sitting at the piano in every one.

https://youtu.be/MdkKdjPyFkQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on October 30, 2023, 08:59:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSngzjqMF38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhSOxCA940

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuAKMlfxX7I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 30, 2023, 09:45:19 AM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/7LWfw5uhmHueY/giphy.gif)
What else is new, Proggie Boi?

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

"It was not entirely original (smirks) ... So I stole it!" See here at 01:25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7r_4CijBWk

Black Night was a throwaway number they jammed at a drunken session after completion of the In Rock album when EMI sent them back to the studio with the old adage: "We don't hear a single!" Blackmore introduced the riff with the comment: "I don't think we can use this, it's too recent!" But none of the others knew the riff. The record company had the de rigueur (not quite in time) handclaps added. No one expected a hit.

https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/deep-purple-black-night-thought-whole-thing-waste-time-101298/3/

It got people dancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXhZ6Wejqc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 30, 2023, 06:54:40 PM
I've posted Albert playing Country Boy before, but this is a new one, uploaded two months ago. Ray Duke posted it on FB tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ8gevTZmtY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 30, 2023, 07:05:20 PM
             Comes with official endorsement!
(https://media.tenor.com/xG97RS4v26kAAAAd/ritchie-blackmore.gif)

https://justbackdated.blogspot.com/2022/05/in-praise-of-albert-lee.html

(https://rockdinozauras.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/foto.jpg?w=1290&h=1146)

Lee's solo is at 01:55, Blackmore's at 05:08, Big Jim Sullivan's (the jazziest one) at 00:33:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV2hPpE_4Q8

PS: Ritchie remembers it wrong, Chas Hodges, not Roger Glover played bass on the sessions.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 30, 2023, 09:01:29 PM
Video not available.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2023, 07:05:03 AM
Better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBwL5lrWFK4

It's the first song here that was featured in my initial posting, but Sullivan, Blackmore and Lee play in all songs and are easy to tell apart. Sullivan was Blackmore's guitar teacher.

Albert Lee also played on Jon Lord's Gemini Suite in 1971. Initially another Purple project with an orchestra and performed live a few times, Blackmore did not want to record it for posterity (likely not to confuse the growing Purple audience now used to the In Rock album's - released in 1970 - brand of heavy rock) so at his recommendation Albert Lee stepped in and Gemini Suite became a Jon Lord solo venture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHC6zd5dA7M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on October 31, 2023, 07:35:40 AM
Now what the heck happened to Bonnie Tyler?! She looks like a professional dominatrix now - wizz a luffly Tshörmen äkzent - and who is this preacher guy singing with her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DguMk2Hze1E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on October 31, 2023, 11:03:18 AM
I loved the version by Hurrah Torpedo.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on October 31, 2023, 09:58:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRsZ5ZwMNGE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on November 01, 2023, 08:18:38 AM
A bit of history here:

https://youtu.be/_lDhZrgWOmo

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on November 03, 2023, 03:21:10 AM
This is cool! Reminds me of these guys here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGJwMhVICg0

which I first heard in Morocco and have since witnessed live in Brussels. They are Tuaregs from the Sahara region in Mali. Their name Tinariwen means desert in the Tuareg language.

Tuareg blues was a revelation to me when i first heard Cerys Mathews playing it on her radio 2 blues show. I grew up in the middle east so there are certain music motifs that hit me right in the childhood. to hear middle eastern playing combined with electric blues was a marriage made in heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 03, 2023, 09:28:34 AM
Yup, it has a tribal-chanty, trancelike quality to it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 03, 2023, 10:25:05 AM
Saw these guys play in San Marcos, Austin and San Antonio back in the day. They're still going strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAEWfYQVFw8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 04, 2023, 10:33:12 AM
60-plus years later, his voice is still great.

https://youtu.be/hrvEIlR1VvA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 04, 2023, 06:35:21 PM
Funny coincidence.  Today was sadly the closing party at the Coney Island Brewery.  My band has played there a few times and we go there pretty much every other Sat. after the New York Aquarium.  I'm on the volunteer dive team there.  So anyway, they had karaoke and some guy sang Runaround Sue, and very well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 05, 2023, 06:58:10 AM
Ever wondered what Back In Black would have sounded like if Bon Scott had sung it?

There's quite a few not so convincing versions you can find on YouTube. But this one is done a whole lot better and it actually sounds like Bon.

This version done by Henrik Eriksson was taken down off YouTube.
But the Vimeo link is still working


https://vimeo.com/858674863


For me this is proof that AI results are just as good as the human input, and the processing of the result by humans afterwards.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 05, 2023, 08:10:09 AM
You should be able to see and hear this even if you're not on Facebook. Click on "Video on Facebook."

NOTE: The video here is a rare clip of Cream - Eric, Jack and Ginger - rehearsing TALES OF BRAVE ULYSSES at the Revolution Club in 1968. I've upscaled the original film and improved the color.

https://www.facebook.com/Colouringpast/videos/656970723189480/

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 05, 2023, 11:07:52 AM
Uncanny, but also disconcerting. I’m not sure whether I’m looking forward to the 60th anniversary edition of Sgt Pepper with all music being separated from the original voices via AI and being rerecorded state of the art “to bring the sonic experience into the 21st century”.

Who wants an airbrushed Rembrandt?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 05, 2023, 02:07:45 PM
Who wants an airbrushed Rembrandt?

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/12/34/odd_ecce_homo_1.jpg?resize=980:*)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on November 06, 2023, 01:20:24 AM
I think Facebook have crushed any up scaling as that Cream clip looks pretty pixelated. I can tell they've done the AI 60 FPS trick as everything has a quick jerkiness to it, like a bad soap opera. Hopefully people figure out how to use these tools in moderation!

This is a tasteful restoration of an old film.


https://youtu.be/8qMsr7jjQF0?si=MANZq8LFHHc8kMf6
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 06, 2023, 11:08:34 PM
https://youtu.be/o4sX4nqnyTM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on November 07, 2023, 06:06:24 AM
Ever wondered what Back In Black would have sounded like if Bon Scott had sung it?

There's quite a few not so convincing versions you can find on YouTube. But this one is done a whole lot better and it actually sounds like Bon.

This version done by Henrik Eriksson was taken down off YouTube.
But the Vimeo link is still working


https://vimeo.com/858674863

its quite creepy how good that is


For me this is proof that AI results are just as good as the human input, and the processing of the result by humans afterwards.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 07, 2023, 07:15:56 AM
Ever wondered what Back In Black would have sounded like if Bon Scott had sung it?

There's quite a few not so convincing versions you can find on YouTube. But this one is done a whole lot better and it actually sounds like Bon.

This version done by Henrik Eriksson was taken down off YouTube.
But the Vimeo link is still working


https://vimeo.com/858674863


For me this is proof that AI results are just as good as the human input, and the processing of the result by humans afterwards.

Wow, that is crazy good.  I'm a huge Bon Scott fan.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 08, 2023, 02:04:24 AM
Dutch band DeWolff is actually a trio (drums, hammond, guitar).
But lately the band has some extensions on board. Now there are seven extra members on stage with them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pyonk1lLkE






Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 08, 2023, 07:35:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMhbZdE7ghM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2023, 08:02:40 AM
Dutch band DeWolff is actually a trio (drums, hammond, guitar).
But lately the band has some extensions on board. Now there are seven extra members on stage with them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pyonk1lLkE

I know these guys, you recommended them to me, bedankt! Have a few of their CDs. I can never get enough of a steaming, dominant Hammond. These guys are actually more Rare Earth than they are DP, but heartwarming still.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 08, 2023, 09:12:02 AM
Dutch band DeWolff is actually a trio (drums, hammond, guitar).
But lately the band has some extensions on board. Now there are seven extra members on stage with them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pyonk1lLkE

Digging this. More Hammond!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2023, 09:35:29 AM
More Hammond!  ;D


Have I ever done anything less than slavishly accommodate all your inner desires, Tom?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWasqPtMQ6I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eXAxleRkDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35txN4JTw2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xitANInTPGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPnczd5o7Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwO7rQD_uZU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 08, 2023, 12:01:51 PM
As a trio they are really cooking too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5PdkGSCG9Y



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2023, 02:13:28 PM
This I like - just the right mix between reverence for the original and youthful devil-may-care attitude. Love the guitarist's overt Slash'isms. Dig the glam rock/Hanoi Rocks vibe it has. They're from Romania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoAPO8rUPYw

I believe Golden Earring would approve.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on November 08, 2023, 07:17:32 PM
More Hammond!  ;D


Have I ever done anything less than slavishly accommodate all your inner desires, Tom?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWasqPtMQ6I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eXAxleRkDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35txN4JTw2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xitANInTPGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPnczd5o7Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwO7rQD_uZU

And you of all people missed to post Der König of Hammond!  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Gk4vD7W3s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 08, 2023, 08:00:37 PM
Who needs Klaus, when we have Helge these days?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7KYntv5nI4

PS: Helge Schneider is a German comedian known for his surreal musical pieces. In actual fact, he's an accomplished jazz musician who used to do musical spoofs as encores to his "serious set" until they became his mainstay. He has a knack of doing things that are so grossly unmusical, only a very musical mind could come up with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5ouYuYCvA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 09, 2023, 08:35:09 AM
Wow, wish granted!  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 09, 2023, 08:51:59 AM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/NQm6UKVrSxj68/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on November 10, 2023, 02:14:29 PM
Helge Schneider is a German comedian known for his surreal musical pieces.

Pick one, but you can't have both.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 10, 2023, 02:18:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYskoA5l3Dk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 10, 2023, 05:52:19 PM
I know: A German joke is no laughing matter.   ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2023, 09:59:02 PM
The Jimi Hendrix Experience Live at the Hollywood Bowl (1967) was released today.  I got my CD in the mail and have already listened to it once.  They were opening for the Mamas and the Papas.  The "Are You Experienced" album would be released two weeks from this.  It's a bootleg recording which now, of course, has been made official.  The first thing I was struck by is how subdued the crowd was.  Most of them had no idea what they were listening to that night. 



https://youtu.be/bJEbIVw0zkA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 10, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
I know: A German joke is no laughing matter.   ;D


This commercial is being shown a lot on American TV lately.  I'm sure it won't appeal to everyone, but I think it's funny.
https://youtu.be/1uR3LOy4D-Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 10, 2023, 11:32:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHtYxLPRFLc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 13, 2023, 03:08:42 PM
Not real Country, I know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-vjdUg2bNk

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 14, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
@uwe

Real country. No fake accents, no fake singing voices that sound nothing like their speaking voices, no choreography.

Amber and Justin will be playing the New Years Eve event at Heart of Texas in Brady, Texas. Better get your tickets now. And be sure to bring your dancing shoes.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNf9HYJsgLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWLYU8uSv4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okCepGnrXXQ

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 15, 2023, 01:39:42 AM
Real country music--a real country album.  I've never even thought of myself as a country fan, but country music like this totally grips me.  By the way Amber is singing with Vince Gill on "The One I Can't Live Without" and "Under These Conditions."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQz6XtQ--28
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 16, 2023, 03:12:41 PM
@uwe

Real country. No fake accents, no fake singing voices that sound nothing like their speaking voices, no choreography.


The guy from Hootie & The Blowfish says thank you, Dave!

(https://media.tenor.com/9jM6p1i9wXkAAAAC/happy-darius-rucker.gif)

I just like his voice (I came across his music by accident), even though I am fully aware that the music has New Country/Country Pop influences too.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 16, 2023, 08:27:51 PM
Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv5nd-3BRr4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 17, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
Best dance floor tune ever. Performed live.

https://youtu.be/wiYjQr22meY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 18, 2023, 01:17:18 PM
My wife Floor has a new band.
They do a tribute to Mavis Staples and The Staple Singers.
This from their first official gig:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_o127Buck
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 19, 2023, 10:20:32 AM
That's a repeat, you already told us and had us hear!  :mrgreen: And we liked it. Dat is echt goed.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 19, 2023, 10:33:15 AM
This (entire) song has only been uploaded shortly.
I think what I shared before was a promo video with short fragments of the same show.

But thanx again! :toast:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2023, 10:48:00 AM
@uwe

Real country. No fake accents, no fake singing voices that sound nothing like their speaking voices, no choreography.


The guy from Hootie & The Blowfish says thank you, Dave!

(https://media.tenor.com/9jM6p1i9wXkAAAAC/happy-darius-rucker.gif)

I just like his voice (I came across his music by accident), even though I am fully aware that the music has New Country/Country Pop influences too.



Nothing wrong with liking his voice. Nothing wrong with those influences. It's just not real country music.

Kid Rock and Jason Aldean have announced a "Rock the Country" tour. Well, which is it? If they were honest with themselves, they'd call it the Two Douchebags tour.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2023, 10:48:33 AM
https://youtu.be/08lVuhv_Va8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 19, 2023, 04:38:50 PM
Blissful ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sKri5YOWk

Proggie-Tom, you should like this, it's in 6/4 !!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 19, 2023, 04:54:54 PM
Nothing wrong with liking his voice. Nothing wrong with those influences. It's just not real country music.

Kid Rock and Jason Aldean have announced a "Rock the Country" tour. Well, which is it? If they were honest with themselves, they'd call it the Two Douchebags tour.

Oh, I thought you were serious in considering him to not ape a country accent, he sounds largely unmannered to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w44aQ0hcO8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 19, 2023, 06:51:51 PM
My wife Floor has a new band.
They do a tribute to Mavis Staples and The Staple Singers.
This from their first official gig:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_o127Buck

That's amazing, Rob.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 19, 2023, 07:13:20 PM
This new Ed Stasium mix of The Replacements' Tim album is so good. I'm so used to the original release that it was a little strange at first, but it's so much better.  Drums are way more present and there's more guitar.  Yay Bob Stinson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwLr-8YWhMs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on November 20, 2023, 08:54:36 AM
Blissful ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sKri5YOWk

Proggie-Tom, you should like this, it's in 6/4 !!!

Yeah, this new JP is good. Panic Attack opens in 7/8, and returns at about 3:00 with a little Tom Sawyer-esque riff.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2023, 11:54:55 PM
It's not quite the season yet, but yes, I was listening to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPPCPqDINEk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2023, 07:22:19 AM
Don't blame me. Dave started it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZH9t-4W4Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlrQFzLneY4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 22, 2023, 07:26:09 AM
How can I not include this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 22, 2023, 08:32:43 AM
Geez, any drowning man can come here to have an anchor thrown to him.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs4F_VJwmS0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 22, 2023, 06:45:02 PM
I love an uplifting Christmas message
(NSFW language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmoG4JY_T58
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 02:35:34 AM
Geez, any drowning man can come here to have an anchor thrown to him.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs4F_VJwmS0

No animals were hurt in the making of this video.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 02:44:28 AM
I have Dolly's new Rockstar album - it's good fun. Not everything works, but quite a few tracks do. Just see it at what it is, a Country Diva tipping her hat to rock, it's not meant to replace Sgt Pepper or Dark Side Of The Moon in the pantheons of rock music anytime soon.

Of the covers, I think this is the strongest one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zluG5nyXoDI

On paper as incongruous as Whitney's version of Dolly's I Will Always Love You, it worked/works in practice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 23, 2023, 05:14:58 AM
I know Dolly takes great pride in the fact that she's very plastic. (her credo: I spent a fortune to look this cheap)

But this album is too plastic for me.

I skipped through some of the songs. And heard nothing that I like or would be remotely interested in.
It's fake rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 06:17:25 AM
It's pop music with rock elements sung by an established C&W artist.

It's not exactly a roots album produced by Rick Rubin  :mrgreen:, but then Dolly has never been obsessed with that in her country career either. And she's always done pop/middle of the road when she felt like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IIkpmw8Ow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWldTFq2Jk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4

Authenticity is not a standard I would hold Dolly against. She's always been honest about being a crowd pleaser first and foremost. Don't be so severe, Rob!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 23, 2023, 08:04:49 AM
I first started listening to and watching Dolly Parton on TV when I was a kid.  I never disliked her as a person, but I've never liked her voice much at all.  I felt her best work was with Kenny Rogers, although I was never a fan of him, either.  But Dolly Parton has a major mass appeal which is undeniable.  You've got people she is closely associated with such as Emmylou Harris which I find much more appealing.  But it's Dolly which gets the attention.  People seem to love her.  I've never understood it, but I would never try to stop it.  I doubt if there are too many people you would be able to name who covered a Beatles song and were able to get Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr to come over to help them out on it.  And that's just one example among many. One of my favorite sci-fi TV shows "The Orville" had almost an entire episode devoted to Dolly Parton.  Of course, that didn't surprise me.  At this point, nothing about Dolly surprises me.  Her being in the RRHOF doesn't surprise me, either, in spite of the fact that, obviously, she is nowhere close to being a rocker.  Besides that, she isn't the only one to do this sort of thing.

So here is Pat Boone.  BTW, I once saw him in person kind of by accident.  I had a Brazilian friend who had to speak at an event.  Pat Boone, for some reason, was there, too.  My friend got pretty ticked off, though, that Pat Boone thought they spoke Spanish, not Portuguese in Brazil.  That's a mistake that it's way better not to make with Brazilians. 

https://youtu.be/Zxe2_tHTnts
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 23, 2023, 09:05:46 AM
It's only relatively recent that I learned that Kenny Rogers was a bass player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULOC--qUOI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 09:19:26 AM
Most Spaniards think that people in Portugal speak Spanish too - just very badly and with a horrible accent.  :mrgreen:

It really is like Dutch to German, we appreciate the sincere effort of our beloved neighbors in emulating the root language, doomed to failure as it might be.  8)

I'm with you, Emmylou Harris has a purity of tone that I don't hear with Dolly, there is more 'garbage can on a hot day' to Dolly's voice and I don't mean that negatively. But then Emmylou is perhaps more folk/Bluegrass than "real country", we'd have to ask our resident expert (Now where is Dave when you need him?).

Dolly is a piece of naive art and an artifact of times gone by - I don't think there will be another country star like her in the future so let's enjoy her while she is still around. Weird as it might sound, she is totally credible in all her artificiality, an original. I can understand why Rob Halford is besotted with her, being one himself he has a thing going for Country-, Metal- (Doro) and Pop-Divas (Madonna and Lady Gaga).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 23, 2023, 10:02:21 AM
I have nothing against Dolly. I can laugh about the persona that she has created.
She used to be pretty. And so were some of her songs.

But this is a mediocre album with badly executed rock covers.
It's not just her voice (and speach impediment that has gone real severe because of too many plastic surgeries), but also the butt-ugly guitar sounds. Such as the solo guitar on Magic Man.
The infantile acting in intro of Rockstar and I Hate Myself For Loving
Et cetera
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2023, 01:53:09 PM
It's only relatively recent that I learned that Kenny Rogers was a bass player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULOC--qUOI

Kenny was a session player on bass in Houston as early as the mid-1950s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2023, 01:53:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UmPe9bWTwQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 02:56:31 PM
I have nothing against Dolly. I can laugh about the persona that she has created.
She used to be pretty. And so were some of her songs.

But this is a mediocre album with badly executed rock covers.
It's not just her voice (and speach impediment that has gone real severe because of too many plastic surgeries), but also the butt-ugly guitar sounds. Such as the solo guitar on Magic Man.
The infantile acting in intro of Rockstar and I Hate Myself For Loving
Et cetera

I think the difference between us is that you see the album as a serious, but failed artistic statement while I see it as a novelty greeting card of a C&W legend to rock music. Measured against that, it’s pleasant. Nobody buys Dolly’s albums to hear organic rock guitar sounds and she’s not Chris Stapleton either. Consider how the album came about: She was slated to be inducted into the RRHF (which should long be called Contemporary Music Hall of Fame), slightly bemused by the fact and then talked into accepting it, at which point she decided "I better do a rock track then!”. And once there at the induction ceremony, she realizes that she has cult appeal for people as diverse as Simon Le Bon and Robert Halford and that rock royalty feels warmly towards her. She didn’t wake up one morning to reinvent herself as a rock singer or to proclaim "I still have that ONE rock album in me!"

The whole thing is by no means a major work, it’s Dolly giving a wink. And if she had been inducted into the Black Music & Entertainment Walk of Fame, she would have recorded a soul & funk album.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 23, 2023, 07:13:51 PM
I listen to Police and Purple mostly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYEvbEiPmPE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 23, 2023, 09:40:57 PM
Dolly has become a parody of her earlier real self. Sort of like the Rolling Stones.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 24, 2023, 12:43:09 AM
Consider how the album came about: She was slated to be inducted into the RRHF (which should long be called Contemporary Music Hall of Fame), slightly bemused by the fact and then talked into accepting it, at which point she decided "I better do a rock track then!”. And once there at the induction ceremony, she realizes that she has cult appeal for people as diverse as Simon Le Bon and Robert Halford and that rock royalty feels warmly towards her.

That's the marketing story they concocted to justify this album. A rather naive one imho. And you fell for it.
Dolly is a smart business woman. She fills big venues all across the world.
I think it was all staged and planned.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 24, 2023, 05:15:11 AM
Dutch conspiracy theorist!  :mrgreen:

She's just giving the people what they want. I don't think that this album will have a greater relevance for her overall career trajectory than, say, another Christmas album. It's a novelty thing.

I relistened to all of it again yesterday, I can't work myself into a state about it. It could have been a lot more awful. Not more cringeworthy than most Blackmore's Night albums really.

"Dolly has become a parody of her earlier real self. Sort of like the Rolling Stones."

Yes, she's in character all the time. Giving the people what they want.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2023, 09:36:41 AM
She has always claimed to be an entertainer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 24, 2023, 12:59:24 PM
Dolly is unique. She has given a great deal of good music to the world, and she makes no pretense at being anything other than what she is.

She's not a parody because she hasn't changed. She fully admits to using every bit of makeup, wigs and anything else that help her look good, and her voice is remarkably unchanged given that she's in her late 70s.

Does she play rock? No, but the earlier comment to the effect that it's a pop album done rock style is a pretty good explanation. That's fine.  I don't need Dolly to try and become Ozzy Osborne, Jimmy Page or Brian Johnson.

My wife puts it best, and it's a statement that I am too smart to argue with:  "I'm just normal for me."

Good for her.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 24, 2023, 03:09:28 PM
On TV somebody said today that "this is Dolly's world, and we're all living in it."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 24, 2023, 05:40:05 PM
On TV somebody said today that "this is Dolly's world, and we're all living in it."

If we had a helluva lot more people like Dolly, it would be a better world.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 24, 2023, 05:43:13 PM
I honestly feel that Dolly is one of the greatest human beings ever.  And that most people wouldn't understand that statement probably makes it even better in her favor.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 24, 2023, 11:07:55 PM
If we had a helluva lot more people like Dolly, it would be a better world.

Yes, it would be.  Sadly, though, I'd say the vain and selfish greatly outnumber those who are similar to Dolly Parton in the world. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 24, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
I've been following Dolly since the beginning, even before Porter Wagoner, when she was first writing songs with her uncle and backing Bill Phillips on Put It Off Until Tomorrow. I don't need to be told anything about her. She's done much good and given much of herself and her fortune to the world.

But I still think she's damaged her musical reputation and legacy with this rock star silliness. It's sad. You're free to disagree, but you definitely won't change my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78jffJB42k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 25, 2023, 08:24:34 AM
But I still think she's damaged her musical reputation and legacy with this rock star silliness. It's sad. You're free to disagree, but you definitely won't change my opinion.

OMFG, how can one duff album - assuming 'Rockstar' sucks for sake of argument here - "damage (the) musical reputation and legacy" of an artist with the longevity and richness of body of work of Ms Parton? That is too grand and absolute a statement for me. 'Let It Be' (the album) didn't damage the legacy of The Beatles either - it’s just a weak album, shit happens.

I can’t believe with how much pious sourpuss earnestness this one-off-album is viewed between those who see it as a sacrilege against rock music and those who view Dolly’s novelty trip into the dusty memory lanes of rock & pop as treachery against C&W, a music form that is a hodgepodge of different influences (like rock actually).

Dolly could convert to Islam and record a Reggae album in Mandarin in my book and it wouldn’t tarnish anything she has done before. Or after - if anything good comes up.

By your standards, Dave, Blackmore’s silly forays  for now three decades into Renaissance music have diminished/tainted what he did on 'In Rock', 'Machine Head', 'Made in Japan' and 'Burn' - of course they haven’t! You’re beginning to sound like a friggin’ Led Zep fan, they share the same dogmatic outlook.

So Dolly has now arranged a little flash-in-the-pan media circus around her with the release of this album. I mean how could she, given that most of her previous career/life was hellbent on avoiding any kind of limelight and/or attention? What a dereliction of faith and taste.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 25, 2023, 09:07:08 AM
Opinions will differ, but to me Dolly has done so many things so well that she's entitled to put out an album for fun. If it's no more than that, it's great with me. There's enough weird, unlistenable crap out there that Dolly shines by comparison. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 25, 2023, 10:32:03 AM
I only heard about Dolly beginning with Porter Wagoner.  That was a really long time ago.  I assumed he was the one who gave her a big break and she hadn't done anything before that.  My opinion of her has changed through the years.  For a long time, I thought she must be getting so much attention because of her physical attributes.  That didn't matter much to me because there are plenty of women with nice physical attributes.  It's not like there is a shortage of that.  Like I've already said, I never liked her voice very much.  Now that doesn't matter much.  That's just subjective anyway.  I've always been impressed by some of the other artists she performed with.  That worked out well.  My attitude toward the so-called rock album is neutral.  There are some people on there who are of interest to me. However, it's doubtful I'll buy the CD.  In fact, the place where I buy CDs doesn't even offer it, although, of course, there are other places. Still, there is no way I can take Dolly Parton seriously as a rock artist.  At this point, I look up to her more as a humanitarian who is genuinely interested in good will.  That's admirable.  So many celebrities are self-centered and I actually don't think she is.  I might add, in closing, that she may be more of a force in country music than I realized.  I've been around country music a lot, but can't say that I'm any kind of expert at all. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 25, 2023, 11:14:39 AM
I only heard about Dolly beginning with Porter Wagoner.  That was a really long time ago.  I assumed he was the one who gave her a big break and she hadn't done anything before that.  My opinion of her has changed through the years.  For a long time, I thought she must be getting so much attention because of her physical attributes.  That didn't matter much to me because there are plenty of women with nice physical attributes.  It's not like there is a shortage of that.  Like I've already said, I never liked her voice very much.  Now that doesn't matter much.  That's just subjective anyway.  I've always been impressed by some of the other artists she performed with.  That worked out well.  My attitude toward the so-called rock album is neutral.  There are some people on there who are of interest to me. However, it's doubtful I'll buy the CD.  In fact, the place where I buy CDs doesn't even offer it, although, of course, there are other places. Still, there is no way I can take Dolly Parton seriously as a rock artist.  At this point, I look up to her more as a humanitarian who is genuinely interested in good will.  That's admirable.  So many celebrities are self-centered and I actually don't think she is.  I might add, in closing, that she may be more of a force in country music than I realized.  I've been around country music a lot, but can't say that I'm any kind of expert at all.

This sums it up pretty well for me, too...even the progression of thoughts about why she was successful. Now she's a unique personality and performer.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 25, 2023, 12:13:31 PM
Again, I'm not going to change my opinion.

Let me remember Dolly the way she was, before the plastic surgery, grotesque makeup, and showing her great-grandma aged legs in short shorts.

Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUlQ3M5Fqg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 25, 2023, 06:35:10 PM
I'm tempted, but not gonna do it..... 8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on November 25, 2023, 06:48:06 PM
I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 25, 2023, 09:14:55 PM
At no time in her life did I deem Dolly physically attractive + her speaking voice is way too squeaky and high for me, that is always a turn-off for me. I find the Emmylou Harris/Carly Simon/Joni Mitchell type way more attractive. Linda Ronstadt's prettiness never did anything for me either - too sweet.

Edith is always worried when I say that I find someone like Alan’s country(wo)man Tilda Swinton attractive - she fears for the longevity of my heterosexual programming! :mrgreen:

I liked Dolly‘s acting (or playing herself) in Steel Magnolias though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 25, 2023, 10:14:18 PM
At no time in her life did I deem Dolly physically attractive + her speaking voice is way too squeaky and high for me, that is always a turn-off for me. I find the Emmylou Harris/Carly Simon/Joni Mitchell type way more attractive. Linda Ronstadt's prettiness never did anything for me either - too sweet.

Edith is always worried when I say that I find someone like Alan’s country(wo)man Tilda Swinton attractive - she fears for the longevity of my heterosexual programming! :mrgreen:

I liked Dolly‘s acting (or playing herself) in Steel Magnolias though.

I was working in a travel agency in Alexandria, Louisiana around 1988.  One day a customer, very excited, told us all about a movie that was being filmed in Natchitoches, over 50 miles away.  Evidently, he had been hired as an extra.  He was almost pleading for some of us to go over there, too.  He said they were pretty desperate to hire more extras.  The pay was good and they would be filming for quite a while.  I wish I had gone now.  It would have most likely been better than that travel agency job.  But if I had gone, then when someone said they liked Dolly's acting in "Steel Magnolias." I could have said, "oh, yeah, I was in that movie, too." 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on November 26, 2023, 08:31:10 AM
I do think she was pretty (a long time ago)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Young-Dolly-Parton.jpg/390px-Young-Dolly-Parton.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/6b/cb/136bcb47d4638d4ecb9e12767a2d9a2a.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 26, 2023, 08:35:06 AM
I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!

Thank you.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2023, 09:34:26 AM
But if I had gone, then when someone said they liked Dolly's acting in "Steel Magnolias." I could have said, "oh, yeah, I was in that movie, too."


Alas!, all those missed chances in life … :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 26, 2023, 09:49:32 AM
I do think she was pretty (a long time ago)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Young-Dolly-Parton.jpg/390px-Young-Dolly-Parton.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/6b/cb/136bcb47d4638d4ecb9e12767a2d9a2a.jpg)

I guess I had that type of big hair-base already covered with Farrah Fawcett! There was simply no room for Dolly in my adolescent mind.

(https://assets.cdn.moviepilot.de/files/1c70bce4eb7f857d179a24789accaeee93851584ac314eddff4b492c3beb/copyright/Farrah_Fawcett.jpg)


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 26, 2023, 12:03:47 PM
But if I had gone, then when someone said they liked Dolly's acting in "Steel Magnolias." I could have said, "oh, yeah, I was in that movie, too."


Alas!, all those missed chances in life … :mrgreen:

In that particular case all because I didn't want to risk losing a job.  As it turned off, the travel agency boss was an oaf.  If I had followed that customer's advice and become an extra, it would have most likely turned out to be something positive or at least better than what I ended up with. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 26, 2023, 11:22:43 PM

I'm tempted, but not gonna do it..... 8)

I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!

My turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLO7VrRij_M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on November 27, 2023, 08:14:00 AM
In that particular case all because I didn't want to risk losing a job.  As it turned off, the travel agency boss was an oaf.  If I had followed that customer's advice and become an extra, it would have most likely turned out to be something positive or at least better than what I ended up with.

About 22 years ago I was asked to join a band that was rehearsing for a tour of Europe. They were obscure and would have played small clubs, but I really liked their music and I’d never had that experience and always wanted to. I turned it down because I’d just got my first real programming job after a scary period of unemployment and debt. Programming has been a good life for me, but I still wish I’d done the risky thing while I still had some youth left in me. The band broke up soon after, so maybe it wasn’t that great an experience for them, but who knows.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on November 27, 2023, 09:25:55 AM
My turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLO7VrRij_M

Ahhhh, balance has been restored to the universe!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 27, 2023, 02:28:13 PM
Yes, and it seems to be the case with the redheaded lady too.

The talent of this forum and its members to dig up profanity appears endless.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 27, 2023, 07:05:17 PM
About 22 years ago I was asked to join a band that was rehearsing for a tour of Europe. They were obscure and would have played small clubs, but I really liked their music and I’d never had that experience and always wanted to. I turned it down because I’d just got my first real programming job after a scary period of unemployment and debt. Programming has been a good life for me, but I still wish I’d done the risky thing while I still had some youth left in me. The band broke up soon after, so maybe it wasn’t that great an experience for them, but who knows.

For me, though, that job ended up being way worse than I had expected.  Travel agency jobs are notorious for being bad.  That one was worse than usual.  I had nothing to lose, but didn't realize it at the time.

There was also a band I was in that I didn't want to leave before college.  They also broke up after a while.  However, I always wondered what it might have been like if I had stayed.  There would be other bands, but none with that much talent.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on November 27, 2023, 07:07:50 PM
Yes, and it seems to be the case with the redheaded lady too.

The talent of this forum and its members to dig up profanity appears endless.

As far as I'm concerned, the video with the redhead deserves an award.  There can never be too many redheads.  Outstanding. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 28, 2023, 08:59:40 PM
We've had Possum recipes and Dolly as subjects recently, this here combines both:

https://youtube.com/shorts/_NA1c2RH5-c?si=6HYtj33xUSQ5eTxg

Dolly's dad was wrong though: Opossums aren't rats (= rodents), they're marsupials, short-legged kangaroos in essence.

(https://cms.capitoltechsolutions.com/clientData/EffieYeaw/AskANaturalist_opossum%2001_Didelphis%20virginiana%20with%20young%20by%20Specialjake%20is%20licensed%20under%20CC%20BY-SA%203.0.jpg)
We ain't no rats !!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 28, 2023, 11:29:35 PM
Possums eat insects. They're okay with me.

Anyway...

Local friends, playing at the 50th birthday bash of another local friend, 7 years ago.

https://youtu.be/LzvYSFtTXTY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 29, 2023, 07:59:52 AM
Is that an original or a cover?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 29, 2023, 08:01:41 AM
Meanwhile, back in the Blair Witch Forest, Santa and his elves have lost their way and misplaced their leather garments ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YqZuo1WKk4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 29, 2023, 08:38:27 AM
Is that an original or a cover?

Original. He's the drummer and occasional vocalist for the Gear Daddies, and it appeared on their Billy's Live Bait album from 1990. They stopped touring 30 years ago but still do a couple of shows locally every year.

Two months ago at Buck Hill ski area in the southern suburbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLTLGLVV-UE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on November 29, 2023, 11:03:11 AM
Good songwriting then!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2023, 07:49:43 AM
https://youtu.be/Dkv-V5aanjQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2023, 10:06:33 PM
Posted to the Jack Bruce channel earlier today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU10mv6xIyU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 03, 2023, 09:57:14 AM
Gary Moore seems to be enjoying himself and I've certainly heard him worse OTT, but it still sounds forced in comparison to Slowhand's original. The thing with Clapton is not so much what he plays, but how he does it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 03, 2023, 11:26:38 PM
Ahhhh, balance has been restored to the universe!

I need to point out that Carolyn Hax used "harrumphant" as an adjective in her Sunday WaPo column. I'll have to use that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 03, 2023, 11:28:37 PM
Gary Moore seems to be enjoying himself and I've certainly heard him worse OTT, but it still sounds forced in comparison to Slowhand's original. The thing with Clapton is not so much what he plays, but how he does it.

Clapton's detractors don't understand that. Not that I expect everyone to like his playing, but try to understand what makes him who he is.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 04, 2023, 04:33:51 AM
Gary Moore seems to be enjoying himself and I've certainly heard him worse OTT, but it still sounds forced in comparison to Slowhand's original. The thing with Clapton is not so much what he plays, but how he does it.

Gary Moore sounds a bit stiff/square in this performance. Or maybe it's just that he's too loud in the mix?
But in my opinion it doesn't work with the busy and loose playing of Jack Bruce.
That's the probleem with almost all of Gary Moore's performances; he was just so hyper, he never sounded relaxed.
I used to be a fan when I was a teenager (corridors of power, victims of the future era). But these days I find it hard to listen to his guitar playing that is (almost) obnoxious to my ears...


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 04, 2023, 06:30:43 AM
Same with me, each note of equal importance and intensity across the board. No real dynamics, always clamoring for rapt attention. Interestingly, Gary Moore fans don't seem to hear that at all, they think his ADHD guitar playing was a sincere emotional outpouring when in fact he couldn't help himself.

Clapton's guitar playing is gentlemanly in comparison. He's like the person in the (not only white ...) room who doesn't have the loudest voice, but still has you listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCc00pX_pFA

Clapton at his most mundane can be boring at times, but he's never offensive. And you're right, Rob, his style of playing and groove lets Baker's bass "bubble" more.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 04, 2023, 07:42:47 AM
The drummer isn't a bad singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o82d9T4D-8I

They were quite jazzy still back then!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 04, 2023, 09:27:08 AM
The drummer isn't a bad singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o82d9T4D-8I

They were quite jazzy still back then!

Fancy playing all around there! Who's the bass player?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 04, 2023, 09:51:57 AM
Good question. Not Bob Messenger (who did a lot of their live work on bass) nor Joe Osborn of the Wrecking Crew (who played on most of their studio tracks).

Ah, I got it! Wes(ley) Jacobs ...

(https://www.richardandkarencarpenter.com/2-1%20Carpenter%20Trio_1967.jpg)

https://www.richardandkarencarpenter.com/biography-2.htm

... who later on became a tuba player with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra:

https://encoremusicpublishers.wordpress.com/about/

I knew that they were jazzy before they turned middle of the road, but I had no idea they were THIS JAZZY (and Karen doesn't even sing, just swings ...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-HJBH_Spnw

If only she had eaten properly, darn.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on December 04, 2023, 10:33:30 AM
Good question. Not Bob Messenger (who did a lot of their live work on bass) nor Joe Osborn of the Wrecking Crew (who played on most of their studio tracks).

I hope Bob never got shot.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 04, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
Ouch - that took a while, but realization was blissful!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 04, 2023, 11:56:24 AM
Same with me, each note of equal importance and intensity across the board. No real dynamics, always clamoring for rapt attention. Interestingly, Gary Moore fans don't seem to hear that at all, they think his ADHD guitar playing was a sincere emotional outpouring when in fact he couldn't help himself.

Clapton's guitar playing is gentlemanly in comparison. He's like the person in the (not only white ...) room who doesn't have the loudest voice, but still has you listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCc00pX_pFA

Clapton at his most mundane can be boring at times, but he's never offensive. And you're right, Rob, his style of playing and groove lets Baker's bass "bubble" more.

I see what you're saying about Gary Moore.  I have a bassist friend who doesn't much like him at all.  However, I think I remember reading that Jack Bruce said GM was his favorite guitarist to play with.  Supposedly because of their Celtic connection.  I think I may have mentioned this in another thread long ago.  Also, I may have heard Jack say this in an interview instead of reading it.  It was years ago, and I just can't remember.  Uncovering old Jack Bruce interviews can sometimes get tricky.  Personally, I don't dislike Moore, but I like Clapton much better. 

Note:

For what it's worth, and since the Gary Moore topic has already been brought up, here is a video on how he may have gotten his scars.

https://youtu.be/N3drRJ7xtKI

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 04, 2023, 01:33:35 PM
I hope Bob never got shot.

 :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on December 04, 2023, 01:34:34 PM
I'll be here all week.  Tip your bartenders and try the veal.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 04, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
Brenda Lee's "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" which was recorded in 1958, is now number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time.  Next, is Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas is You."  at number 2.  Here is another version I recently discovered (by Minniva, Norwegian metal cover singer.)

https://youtu.be/JUH22ldoIIE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2023, 12:21:24 AM
She wrinkles her nose, Dave will like it.

I'll reinstate somber yet festive decorum here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZH9t-4W4Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 05, 2023, 12:45:09 AM
I like the Tarjah version.  I suppose some will be offended that the Mariah Carey version is being ignored.  Didn't she write the song?  Somehow I can't much get into it, though. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2023, 12:46:17 AM
I see what you're saying about Gary Moore.  I have a bassist friend who doesn't much like him at all.  However, I think I remember reading that Jack Bruce said GM was his favorite guitarist to play with.  Supposedly because of their Celtic connection.  I think I may have mentioned this in another thread long ago.  Also, I may have heard Jack say this in an interview instead of reading it.  It was years ago, and I just can't remember.  Uncovering old Jack Bruce interviews can sometimes get tricky.  Personally, I don't dislike Moore, but I like Clapton much better.


I remember him saying that too. But then he never had the best judgement in who fits in with his playing. He's also lauded Cozy Powell as great to play with (and declared Led Zep silly for not continuing with him after the loss of Bonzo) even though Powell by his own admission has stated how he does "not care what the bass plays, because I can't hear it anyway with my drumming!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94vkThBKIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohEYQ3_QVsc

In a trio featuring Gary Moore, Cozy Powell and Jack, I fear you wouldn't have heard all that much of the latter!

Playing "together" with Cozy Powell as a bass player basically meant total submission to his style and filling with root notes what little space he left, you had to take a very physical approach with his "Barbarians at the gate"-style drumming. Bob Daisley and Neil Murray could do it well (incidentally Greg Lake too), Roger Glover and Colin Hodgkinson not so much.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 05, 2023, 01:25:37 AM
I think Jack Bruce sometimes had a tendency to speak off the cuff anyway.  Besides I'm not really sure if the Scottish and Irish both being Celtic is really something that exactly ties in with who should or shouldn't be in a band.

Cozy Powell's remark reminds me of something Frank Zappa once said, although I can't remember the exact quote or the context.  I've never been a Zappa fan.  But the gist of it is that the purpose of bass was to be greatly overshadowed by guitar.  Something to that effect.  It's just the opposite of Little Richard's quote:

... Now they have banging guitar and no bass and call it rock, but that's not what I call rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on December 05, 2023, 02:46:48 AM
I'll be here all week.  Tip your bartenders and try the veal.

try your waitress and tip the veal
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on December 05, 2023, 04:26:47 AM
Brenda Lee's "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" which was recorded in 1958, is now number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time.  Next, is Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas is You."  at number 2.  Here is another version I recently discovered (by Minniva, Norwegian metal cover singer.)


I have my hopes set on Fairytale of New York. With the recent passing of Shane MacGowan his widow seems to be campaigning for a number one in the UK.


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 05, 2023, 04:37:25 AM
I have my hopes set on Fairytale of New York. With the recent passing of Shane MacGowan his widow seems to be campaigning for a number one in the UK.

I don't know what the full story is on Brenda Lee recording that song when she was 13 and it finally becoming number 1 now.  She is 78.  But it was on the news.  According to what I just read Fairytale of New York did reach number 1 in Ireland in 1987, not the UK, though, evidently.  Usually, U.S. charts are pretty different from anything else.  So I have no idea about the U.S. in this case.  It seems Fairytale of New York is in a battle against Wham and Mariah Carey in the UK. 

Here is a cover of the song from a street performer often seen on YouTube. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyyQMyWKHVY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on December 05, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Gary Moore seems to be enjoying himself and I've certainly heard him worse OTT, but it still sounds forced in comparison to Slowhand's original. The thing with Clapton is not so much what he plays, but how he does it.

It sounds like he didn't learn the song fully. He's made a mind map of the chords, but not got there down at all. Very blocky and the wah pedal stuff is rigid on/off use with no nuance at all.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 05, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
Brenda Lee's "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" which was recorded in 1958, is now number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time.  Next, is Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas is You."  at number 2.  Here is another version I recently discovered (by Minniva, Norwegian metal cover singer.)

https://youtu.be/JUH22ldoIIE

Something Tarja and Carey had in common that this version (which I like OK) does not is that the vocals are clear and easy to understand! In a great deal of music the vocals are mixed so low in comparison to the music that I can't actually understand the vocals. That's also true with the Minneva tune; if I wasn't already familiar with it I would be able to understand about 40% of the lyrics.

As outdated as it may be, I LIKE to hear and understand the vocals.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2023, 12:19:08 PM
"Who do you think you are, friggin' Tom Jones?!"

Ritchie to Ian, during the mixing of In Rock, when the latter dared push up the faders for his vocals.

(https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/static/article/news/9/75159_0_meta_ver1529148566.jpg)

I like audible vocals too, it's a reason why I always preferred The Beatles to The Stones or DP to LZ. But too loud is too loud, it devalues the music, the "Slade"-effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mKjx2oL_fI

The loudest vocals I ever heard were at a Neil Diamond concert. His voice was so loud in the mix, you could hear the hairs in his nostrils banging against each other every time he breathed.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 05, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
It just seems to me that often with cover bands the vocals aren't loud enough.  Of course, I think sometimes this is a good thing.  I don't know how many cover bands have been ruined by having a lousy singer.  But a lot. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 05, 2023, 05:30:22 PM
OMG, that Tarja, whoever she is, is what Rodney Daingerfield called a two-bagger, You need a bag over your head in case the one over hers breaks. And if you scraped all that hideous makeup off her and burned it for fuel, you could heat your house for a whole winter.

I didn't realize that Brenda Lee had put out a new video. In that robe, she looks like a tall midget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFsZy9t-qDc

But she'll always be Little Miss Dynamite to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Puat6Mwpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeDNQpZ2RdA



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2023, 05:45:28 PM
Tarja is the opera-trained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7MNiVrF4ik

original singer of Finnish Symphonic Metallers Nightwish, Dave! She's the Holy Mother of all things Goth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBdpFJyFkc

She only wears that type of overall make-up for her Goth Christmas albums, there is even two of them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOlvo9x-w8k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2023, 06:00:48 PM
I always thought that song something extremely special. So is Grace Jones' performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auOh5V92seo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 06, 2023, 10:04:24 PM
Grace Jones too? Do we need a separate thread for women with hideous makeup?

Apologies if I've posted this before. I love hearing a Freddy Fender and Doug Sahm duet. Both gone too soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhLTLOhU9Yw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 06, 2023, 10:40:16 PM
Brutus from Belgium.  Periodically, i reset everything on YouTube settings.  This is one of the bands that appeared. I don't know much about them.  The drummer is a metal fan.  Either the guitarist or bassist is a country fan.  I think the bassist.  Their music has been described as post-rock.  That's not a genre I would normally listen to, but this time I did.  Lars Ulrich has given his approval to Brutus.  Most likely because he likes the prominent role the drummer has in the band. 

Originally, the drummer was going to just focus on playing drums and doing backing vocals.  Wisely, the other two members convinced her she needed to be the lead singer.  There is no other lead singer they could have ever found that would have been better than Stefanie the drummer. 


https://youtu.be/5XgCfAK-3pA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 04:11:39 AM
OMGoth, an alt prog metal Karen Carpenter! Tool + Porcupine Tree fans will no doubt cream into their pants at first listen.

However, there is just too much windy draft on stage, at this rate Stefanie will catch a cold! And all her borderline personality disorder fans will be even more highly distraught because of it.  :mrgreen:

It's well executed, she drums nicely and sings well, I don't mind the bleak alt/post rock vibe, but the rampaging heavy parts are a matter of taste, I could never really get into this stuff, verging on the too industrial for me. But it's an interesting three-piece.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 06:01:31 AM
"Grace Jones too? Do we need a separate thread for women with hideous makeup?"

 :mrgreen:

Look Dave, things have to fit, an urban hymn like Slave to the Rhythm wouldn't have worked with someone singing or looking like Emmylou Harris! And Frau Jones is a former fashion model and hip society diva darling whose carefully calibrated image is based on that boundary-stretching shtik, be it male/female or human/cyborg.

https://www.wmagazine.com/culture/grace-jones-iconic-style-moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULB2EoYdE38&t=43s

It's a bit like complaining about Alice Cooper's or Gene Simmons' make-up.

Now for my question: Is she real country?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaxqq8X-KCA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2023, 07:48:24 AM
OMGoth, an alt prog metal Karen Carpenter! Tool + Porcupine Tree fans will no doubt cream into their pants at first listen.

However, there is just too much windy draft on stage, at this rate Stefanie will catch a cold! And all her borderline personality disorder fans will be even more highly distraught because of it.  :mrgreen:

It's well executed, she drums nicely and sings well, I don't mind the bleak alt/post rock vibe, but the rampaging heavy parts are a matter of taste, I could never really get into this stuff, verging on the too industrial for me. But it's an interesting three-piece.

I'm not sure how much I'll ever be able to get into it, either.  I did, however, order all their CDs.  It's the guitar that gets to me.  It's like rock got tired of being rock, morphed into something else, but it doesn't feel quite comfortable with that, either.  But for someone who isn't deeply rooted in a rock background, I can see how all of this might work and seem perfectly in order.  It's Stefanie's vocals I like the best.  It appears that it took her quite a while to understand that she is a natural singer.  Like I said, her bandmates had to convince her to be the lead singer.  However, it's actually piano that she has the most musical training in.  Picked up drums at an early age, though.
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Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 09:05:46 AM
There is something Radiohead'ish to the guitar work too.
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Post by: Dave W on December 07, 2023, 09:53:48 AM
Nope, no Grace Jones for me.

https://youtu.be/PR6pHtiNT_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 10:44:04 AM
Cool, the origins of rock'n'roll sax. And those Little Richard/Prince shrieks.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2023, 10:45:05 AM
There is something Radiohead'ish to the guitar work too.

That may very well explain my reaction to it then.  I don't much like Radiohead.  I also don't like it when people compare Radiohead to Muse.  Despite their music supposedly being really good, I've never related to Radiohead.  I have to file it under one of those bands that I just don't get.  Kind of similar to the way I feel about U2.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on December 07, 2023, 10:51:36 AM
That may very well explain my reaction to it then.  I don't much like Radiohead.  I also don't like it when people compare Radiohead to Muse.  Despite their music supposedly being really good, I've never related to Radiohead.  I have to file it under one of those bands that I just don't get.  Kind of similar to the way I feel about U2.

I'm not really a Radiohead fan, either, but I do really love the album The Bends for some reason.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 10:53:18 AM
It's that deconstructivist approach to guitar playing, just listen to the lead guitar of Creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk

I despise Radiohead for their shoegazerish whiny attitude, but, yup, they were influential, much to my chagrin.
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Post by: Alanko on December 07, 2023, 12:21:23 PM
A wee bit of Waylon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgenVANpKgU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2023, 01:16:31 PM
I'm not really a Radiohead fan, either, but I do really love the album The Bends for some reason.

I've never listened to any complete albums all the way through.  I've heard various songs by them.  Also, I forced myself to watch a concert on TV to try to give them a chance.  The same way I did with U2. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
It's that deconstructivist approach to guitar playing, just listen to the lead guitar of Creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk

I despise Radiohead for their shoegazerish whiny attitude, but, yup, they were influential, much to my chagrin.

Creep is one of their better songs, IMO.  But I can't name one shoegaze band that I'm a fan of.

I'm finding this recent concert from Brutus to be better than usual.  The setlist is good.  The guitarist, in general, sounds more melodic and not so shrill.  The bass is more clear than usual.  The vocals also come in loud and clear.  It's possible playing on their home turf makes a difference. 

https://youtu.be/EShW-W4fIcs
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Post by: Alanko on December 07, 2023, 02:35:03 PM
A few of us geeked out on the Radiohead album OK Computer. After that it all becomes scratchy drum loops and moans and electronic bleeps and bloops.

Thom Yorke talks about Can, and Stockhausen, and Phillip Glass, but it all comes out sounding like Radiohead. His solo projects all sound like Radiohead.
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Post by: uwe on December 07, 2023, 06:17:05 PM
Whenever Anglo-American bands mention that my countrymen Can are an influence on them (and there is more than a few of them), I get uncomfortable - so darn un-rock.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: westen44 on December 07, 2023, 09:05:51 PM
I don't have any of these albums.  I've heard of maybe three of these bands.  I guess I'm not much of a shoegaze fan. 

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9966-the-50-best-shoegaze-albums-of-all-time/
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Post by: Ken on December 08, 2023, 07:13:30 AM
I've heard of a lot of them, seen a few, but only a big fan of one of them: The Catherine Wheel.  The site is correct.  They're often more riff-rock than shoegaze.  The singer, Rob Dickinson, and Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson are cousins.  Here is one song from each of the two albums they mention.  They got heavier after the second album.  I love all of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtTqR9oZX6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdJ1sqM0_z0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 08, 2023, 07:35:15 AM
Wikipedia says early in its career Catherine Wheel was associated with shoegaze, but then they moved on to rock and metal.  It also says they were on MTV a lot, but somehow I never noticed them at all.  Rarely, have I heard a band that sounded so British.  It looks like they were a 90s band, but to me they sound just as much 80s as 90s.  Those were the days, though, 80s and 90s when the world was much more unfettered and you could focus more on things that really mattered like music. 
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Post by: Alanko on December 08, 2023, 09:28:15 AM
Whenever Anglo-American bands mention that my countrymen Can are an influence on them (and there is more than a few of them), I get uncomfortable - so darn un-rock.  :rolleyes:

Embrace the weirdness!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJDYB2JXUAEnGa3.jpg)


Just heard a new Guns 'n' Roses song on the radio. Slightly lofi production and weirdly processed vocals. I quite like it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35IMLsf54oI


Reminds me of Can...

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on December 08, 2023, 06:06:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBciqJMscGQ

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Post by: Dave W on December 08, 2023, 10:38:43 PM
Cool, the origins of rock'n'roll sax. And those Little Richard/Prince shrieks.

My mother liked a wide variety of music, but especially Louis Jordan and Al Dexter, two completely different musicians. Go figure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Jd281xrAU
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Post by: Basvarken on December 09, 2023, 10:21:27 AM
Getting in the X-mas mood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM10A86drpI
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Post by: uwe on December 09, 2023, 01:59:46 PM
Just heard a new Guns 'n' Roses song on the radio. Slightly lofi production and weirdly processed vocals. I quite like it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35IMLsf54oI


Isn’t 2023 a bit late to sound like early 90ies Grunge? Axl isn’t really the singer for that type of stuff, Scott Weiland could have pulled it off better.
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 09, 2023, 02:42:54 PM
Getting in the X-mas mood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM10A86drpI

Good heavens, that is obnoxious!!
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Post by: Dave W on December 11, 2023, 06:29:00 PM
Brenda Lee is 79 today.

My earworm today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF_AQ55kAs
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 12, 2023, 10:55:45 AM
I had forgotten that one!  That's a good tune, but I love the pratfall Revere did at the end. I had the pleasure of seeing his lounge act in Lake Tahoe in the early 2000s and it was a kick in the butt.

My earworm this AM (and still) is this...and the bagpipers are fabulous. Their sound is almost eerie. This is one of the most evocative pieces of music I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plhtk_XJqhM
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Post by: uwe on December 12, 2023, 01:23:32 PM
It's oh-kay - in small doses, a bit dreary. I like my Macca earworms more lively rhythmically!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-GwNavp1Q

It was the first song I really registered from his post-Beatles career, a friend's parents had the album and he played that song to death. I must have been 12 or 13. It's a kids' song I guess, but then some of Macca's best work qualifies as that.

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Post by: Dave W on December 14, 2023, 10:26:22 PM
Christmas music with the late Rowdy Roddy Piper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n65UaJHZ_Q
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Post by: westen44 on December 14, 2023, 10:47:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6LyhyOYF-0
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 15, 2023, 10:10:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDdSQlCbJ90
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Post by: Dave W on December 15, 2023, 11:26:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6LyhyOYF-0

Amber rates a full three haminas on my Ralph Kramden hamina-hamina-hamina scale.

The Glenn Barber original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQaF-lCXc6A
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Post by: Dave W on December 15, 2023, 11:26:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epvhxovot-k
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Post by: westen44 on December 16, 2023, 12:03:16 AM
Amber rates a full three haminas on my Ralph Kramden hamina-hamina-hamina scale.

The Glenn Barber original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQaF-lCXc6A

The way Amber is so underrated bothers me quite a lot.  I've had plenty of bands I've been a fan of that I felt were underrated.  But with Amber Digby, this just takes the cake.  No matter what song she sings, she makes it her own.  That sounds cliched, but in her case it's totally accurate.  I've never heard one song of hers I didn't like. 
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Post by: Dave W on December 17, 2023, 08:20:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvBPRKk8YHA
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 18, 2023, 08:46:32 PM
Can't pass up this bass line...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=era7iVv2WPE
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Post by: Dave W on December 18, 2023, 10:00:08 PM
Chas Chandler was born 85 years ago today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PclhNB8BiwI
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Post by: uwe on December 19, 2023, 03:39:16 AM
Why does Ed Sullivan always remind me of Richard Nixon?

(https://external-preview.redd.it/u5PSU3Q1JXv6urONjAOun9KuJ8tu8HAb0awD1F2C8qY.jpg?auto=webp&s=724c1170ce6714fa96a00337b47fb30f9c63283c)
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Post by: Dave W on December 19, 2023, 06:09:47 AM
Ed was not a crook.

Roots rock from the UK

https://youtu.be/9DYgAIAepDU
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Post by: uwe on December 19, 2023, 08:03:05 AM
Ed was not a crook.

You mean you can't be from the entertainment industry and be a a crook at the same time? Ed never held political office to my knowledge, but I could think of another example!  8)
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Post by: Dave W on December 19, 2023, 10:56:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0TOuVVAwQI
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Post by: gearHed289 on December 20, 2023, 08:00:47 AM
Humorous new vid from my friends the Cyberiam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_OnUqopXVE
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Post by: uwe on December 20, 2023, 08:49:55 AM
They're good and the singer has a nice voice.
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Post by: uwe on December 20, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6LyhyOYF-0

Very "real country", admittedly. Even a hapless Kraut like me notices.
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Post by: westen44 on December 20, 2023, 06:47:09 PM
Very "real country", admittedly. Even a hapless Kraut like me notices.

This is an example of Texas country as opposed to, of course, Nashville country.  It's the country genre I like the most by far, although because of the proximity of Nashville, I've heard Texas country way less through the years.  Texas country has more authenticity, emotion, steel guitars, meaningful lyrics, fiddles, etc.  Some of Nashville country has all that, too, but Dave would probably have to be the one to explain all that that involves.  I definitely cannot.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2023, 07:55:08 PM
Dave never explains anything to me, instead he's just dismissive.

(https://gifdb.com/images/high/monsters-university-mike-wazowski-tease-murmur-4wpx9yv9jdgv6cz8.gif)

And yet ... there is something to that TV Yellow story, just look what happened to Slade when they failed to heed it ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ5itYUNu70
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Post by: Dave W on December 21, 2023, 11:28:12 PM
I know Bo Carter for his double entendre songs (Your Biscuits Are Big Enough For Me, etc.) but hadn't heard this one. I really like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4nZSr8VK70
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Post by: Dave W on December 23, 2023, 09:06:18 PM
https://youtu.be/sKy1K61kcmE
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Post by: Dave W on December 26, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Nlp1GQ6Gk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 26, 2023, 11:43:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuPaP_9iiJc
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Post by: uwe on December 27, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Lord, he was born a ramblin' man if I have ever heard one. Obsessing about a tribute album of a singer of one genre to another genre. I haven't heard anyone claiming that Dolly constitutes the future of rock'n'roll, least of all her; the album is an appreciative wink, nothing more. But neither is she the death of rock'n'roll. At worst, she has "culturally appropriated" music - so what? And if she does an album of Australian indigenous music next, I'm fine with that as well.

I abhor tribalism not just in music (probably because I never found a tribe I would have wanted to be a member of). This guy laments about music segregationism, yet at the same time wants Dolly "to stay in her lane". Go figure.

And I'm not sure whether Chez Kane, whom he pushes constantly as an artist in his podcast and somehow seems to perceive as an antidote to what Dolly does, is the future of rock'n'roll either. Her music, dialed in from the 80ies, is at least as much a spoof as Dolly's rock'n'roll excursion if not more so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRLGHLAEuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkuX1n1BwIY
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Post by: westen44 on December 27, 2023, 10:59:09 AM
What gets my attention from that guy is mostly the one-liners he comes up with.  Dolly Parton is in the RRHOF, but Steppenwolf isn't?  What I dislike most about him has to do with those music recommendations he makes.  So far, I've disagreed with every single one of them.  It has reached the point that I automatically know that whatever new music he recommends, I'm not going to like it.  He has been pushing Chez Kane forever.  I wasn't interested when he started pushing her music, and I'm not interested now.  I guess she has a good voice.  It has been a long time since I listened to her.  But whatever she is doing is all the result of what her record label is dictating to her.  It isn't natural or interesting.  But the point is it would make more sense to focus on her voice rather than her projecting a sexy image which seems contrived, IMO. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa4DCp6cl2U
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Post by: patman on December 27, 2023, 02:27:26 PM
Steppenwolf isn’t in the hall? That’s not right. John Kay rocked.
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Post by: uwe on December 27, 2023, 04:50:06 PM
One reason might be that Steppenwolf have successfully managed to manhandle their reputation through awful management decisions and zillion unoriginal line-ups pretending to be the band.

This whole RRHoF what-aboutism ("if this band is in, then why isn't my band ...") leads nowhere. I'm fine with most bands and artists inducted there (for me "RnRHoF" simply stands for "all popular music since the 50ies" and includes pop, blues, singer/songwriter, reggae, soul , funk, rap/hip-hop, country and what have you besides "real rock" and its sub-genres such as prog or metal), in one way or another most of them deserve their place. I scratch my head about some omissions but that doesn't take anything away from those artists already inducted. Yes, Steppenwolf should be featured too because a term from one of their lyrics, namely "heavy metal thunder" christened a whole genre and the movie Easy Rider and its soundtrack is a late 60ies cultural icon. They were also a prototype heavy rock band with their dominant guitar & organ sound and my countryman John Kay's tough vocal delivery.
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Post by: westen44 on December 27, 2023, 05:35:10 PM
Steppenwolf not being in the RRHOF is literally unforgivable. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 27, 2023, 10:18:36 PM
Heep in 1973, the line-up with Thain, live. This performance has only now seen the light of day on YouTube. Byron looks and acts like he has had more than a few, but back then he could still drink and sing. Still, it beckoned ill for the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXTqjGkzLk
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Post by: westen44 on December 28, 2023, 12:42:14 AM
Although it was written back in 2008, I keep seeing references to this book lately.  Of course, Gary Thain is in it.  It's the kind of book I can't ever be sure I would want to read, though.  It's most likely very informative, but I wouldn't expect it to be uplifting. 


https://books.google.com/books/about/The_27s.html?id=A5Bmkhs9_-4C
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on December 28, 2023, 08:23:40 AM
That first Chez video sounds like a leftover Dokken track or something. I shut it off at about 40 seconds. Frontiers Music puts out some terrible stuff. That is of course just my opinion. There is definitely still a market for AOR/melodic hard rock.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on December 28, 2023, 09:54:16 AM
Yes and there is nothing wrong with that, but this sounds incredibly forced - to the point of appearing as a pastiche - and dated.

I'm happy that Frontiers Music exists as a last home for AOR music, but the incestuous atmosphere there breeds some low quality stuff. They throw a lot of stuff at the wall just to see what sticks.
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Post by: uwe on December 28, 2023, 10:07:38 AM
These three young sibling lasses with a fresh recording contract from Warner will no doubt go somewhere - with that look and how their voices gel. Sort of Athens', Georgia, answer to the Irish family band The Corrs, albeit 20 years later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P47jEW4DXw

They describe their music as "neo-traditional country", uhum, I would assume that our resident C&W expert would have to say something scathing about that, but let's just settle for "folky country pop", ok? Pleasant.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on December 29, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
I liked that.  A nice relaxed feel to it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 30, 2023, 12:39:21 AM
Besides having bands that have been around for a while that maybe have lost a lot of their audience through the years, Frontiers also has some fringe bands that can get my attention.  One good example would be Edge of Paradise.  They don't sound great live--too much of a muddled sound.  But I like some of their albums.  Their most recent one is "Hologram."  I'm still checking it out, but so far like it better than I was expecting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTucKQp4rKE

https://themetalpit.org/edgeofparadise/
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: godofthunder on December 30, 2023, 05:36:02 AM
  Ian Hunter's Defiance part 1 is getting quite a bit of spin time. The man can still rock and has more to say than most. Here's Bed of Roses with Ringo and Mike Campbell.  https://open.spotify.com/track/0SJ7QoDB8Y1xGZ8BfICMtb?si=ZiLdjgEURmeIR0Ewssag6Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2023, 07:55:02 AM
Amber Digby's birthday today. Here with husband Randy Lindley doing a Jack Clement tune.

https://youtu.be/Zv7GLwAeuJw

Jack himself

https://youtu.be/UiTqMKepkT0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 30, 2023, 09:59:50 AM
The Patty Loveless version.

https://youtu.be/XPe1Ek72HNU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2023, 11:27:20 PM
And it was also Suzy's birthday on the 30th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9kGLhAee0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on December 31, 2023, 12:43:36 AM
I think Suzy does one of the best covers of this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3O0TP03KIE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on December 31, 2023, 03:24:38 PM
That is a great cover version.

Today I'm listening to Mr. Moore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJa1B89Z3bk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: patman on January 02, 2024, 10:33:52 AM
Nice.

Made my day.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 02, 2024, 06:29:44 PM
That is a great cover version.

Today I'm listening to Mr. Moore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJa1B89Z3bk

This is excellent.
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Post by: wellREDman on January 03, 2024, 04:02:36 AM
This is excellent.

I love playing for change.
 as a cover aficionado, (with no hint of hyperbole) I think they are the best source of cover versions there is,

My all time favourite cover version (stretching the definition) is their version of Biko.
what's not to love, Angelique Kudjo and Yoyo Mas' strings, taiko drums and bagpipes!
 and the singer is no  stranger to the material :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWNEr4eHL18

The definitive version of this one too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hGSqqhhokE


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 04, 2024, 03:28:36 AM
Today it is 38 years ago the son went down.
RIP Philip Parris Lynott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2srQ9lq5GWM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 04, 2024, 07:51:45 AM
Best Lizzy song ever. Highly atmospheric bass line.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 04, 2024, 06:28:08 PM
Pre-leather catsuit & UK Mickie Most/RAK/Chinn-Chapman career Suzi Q ...

with The Pleasure Seekers (Suzi still with a little baby fat from Italian home cooking, they would really starve her down in the UK!) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thCM-t5hl8


who later morphed into the much harder-edged and psychedelic Cradle, the MC5 had doubtlessly left a mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHAe4Dll8Co&t=70s


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 04, 2024, 11:02:53 PM
https://youtu.be/uccbPpvwGuk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 05, 2024, 02:09:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ52Rm3osfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CaXM5yuTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1HG0ewoNBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7DQ9oqP4M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 08, 2024, 06:52:09 AM
https://youtu.be/dgJ2hZx00aU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 08, 2024, 06:56:16 AM
https://youtu.be/LgFkiI1x4Jg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 08, 2024, 07:50:51 PM
Weirdly beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQXCvdnvhHk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 08, 2024, 11:45:36 PM
I love that version.  It should never have been dropped from the Ziggy Stardust album.  In junior high, a friend was in a cover band and they played "Around and Around" at a school assembly.  All outstanding musicians, virtuosos, in fact.  It wasn't long until I was taking music lessons from my friend who ended up as a college music instructor much later in life.  If I could pick one song which I consider the foundational song which convinced me I love rock, it would have to be "Around and Around."  I guess I have Chuck Berry to thank for that, as well as the other people who did covers of the song, including, of course, the Stones.  With the passing of Bowie and Beck, this particular performance of the song should be considered an important piece of rock 'n roll history. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 09, 2024, 03:47:47 PM
https://youtu.be/OecAoxVHMzw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 10, 2024, 08:06:56 AM
Weirdly beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQXCvdnvhHk

Bowie and Beck, wow. Two all time favorites.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 11, 2024, 07:10:13 PM
Incredible how well Halford mastered both Ozzy and Dio material that night ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAgeC21_sA&t=3376s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2024, 10:21:40 AM
Neil Murray is just supple in his playing - rhythm AND melody. Plus shit-tight with Ian Paice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXCn_IYahYU

My favorite finger player if I had to make a choice. His micro groove is staggering, so darn musical.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on January 12, 2024, 11:11:58 AM


 Plesant surprise in my Youtube.

https://youtu.be/lq_PzXy2LGc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 12, 2024, 11:18:55 AM
New Black Crowes album is coming out soon.

https://www.loudersound.com/news/black-crowes-announce-happiness-bastards


Here's the first single.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31MZzqH4ZA


Lead vocal in the verses reminds me (a lot) of Jealous Again...

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 12, 2024, 12:32:40 PM

 Plesant surprise in my Youtube.

https://youtu.be/lq_PzXy2LGc

I know Rob will disagree, but there are very few pieces of music that DLR can actually sing, lamentably Man On The Silver Mountain is not among them. Here is someone who needs real AI treatment bad, he's flat throughout and largely clueless re the melody. To his defense, it's apparently a difficult song to sing, greater vocalists have failed with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QWmmLm-Ojc

As (the often simplistic) Blackmore compositions go, MOTSM is actually quite intricate in chord changes. Maybe that is why it's rarely covered.

You didn't know they played this? Eddie adored Blackmore. They were quite eclectic in their cover choices as a young band, Scorpions too (Speedy's Coming and Catch Your Train, Eddie rated Uli Roth too). Michael Schenker (another guitarist Eddie liked), while in LA with UFO, was so flabbergasted when he saw that bar band everyone talked about play Scorpions songs that he rushed to the phone to tell his brother Rudolf about it and advised him to persevere re a first American tour, ze Scörps finally hit "the gem of the land and the sea" in 1979.

Speaking of Ronnie, there are still some young people who know and cherish him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4vlkei2PA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ID0jEKOaQ

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 12, 2024, 02:13:32 PM
That Liliac girl is makes me cringe to no end. Geez

Maybe it's best not to try an outsing RJD at all  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB31r-oAPac

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 13, 2024, 11:35:13 AM
I have always loved the Mitch Ryder version - and this one by Creedence is pretty irresistable. This is just doing it right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_8vaExg8sQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 13, 2024, 03:04:01 PM
There are more energetic ways to celebrate Little Richard’s brilliance …

https://youtu.be/j5B3VIJxG5k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2024, 08:44:09 PM
I prefer the version from King Ralph.   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ6h0kyqSRk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2024, 12:32:26 PM
Way to go, Little Richard needs a frantic approach and John Fogerty - for all his qualities - doesn't muster that in the CCR version. Though he came close to it on Travellin’ Band which always sounded like a nod to Little Richard to me.

https://youtu.be/uz1EX_VOaFc

Little Richard is DP's most prominent 50ies influence, you could hear it in their own songs ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbiiwLt8NDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydY0et_ZPFY

and their encores ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fTTQn_Dxkg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9KGzUphBA

They were all diehard Little Richard fans. And Ian Gillan took that "frantic delivery"-aspect definitely serious!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIG642NjrGA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2024, 02:06:46 PM
An adolescent wet dream of mine. Unjustly largely forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IefcDO2s9Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 14, 2024, 02:10:03 PM
Listen to DP with a guest vocalist making inroads with the C&W genre no matter what Dave says!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0HIYqf3zsw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxS7DtM1TZU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2024, 12:41:40 PM
A supergroup of sorts ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nslbPJ-kZRM

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 15, 2024, 02:15:25 PM
Very good.  That must have been a one-off collaboration, though.  I couldn't find anything else on YouTube. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2024, 03:58:21 PM
They're old buddies though. Pre-DP, Trapeze (with Glenn) and ZZ Top had the same tour management and did doubleheaders in Texas, the State were Trapeze for some reason was most popular in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqRmWVdtqTI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 15, 2024, 09:41:46 PM
Listening to 50s oldies today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAsHE2O1APs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 06:42:53 AM
This fits then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ID0jEKOaQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 16, 2024, 06:48:50 AM

As (the often simplistic) Blackmore compositions go, MOTSM is actually quite intricate in chord changes. Maybe that is why it's rarely covered.


I've actually heard quite a few bands have a go at it. Not always a guarantee for success. Although the audience seems to really like it

Here's a Dutch occasional formation for a RJD tribute doing the song (amongst others):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFodjmW2o0M&t=502s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 09:35:00 AM
To me, it's one of those all-time great majestic Blackmore riffs (though it was never a real hit), in a class with Smoke on Water, Burn and Knocking On Your Back Door, that Ritchie recipe of playing a riff in those slightly nasty sounding parallel fourths on the D and G string. And following the riff in G minor, the verse of the song doesn't start on a G minor chord (as most DP and Rainbow songs would) as the root (I), but moves mostly in half-bars (also unusual for Deep Purple or Rainbow) as follows:

VII - IV -    I - VI - IV - VII
   I - VII - IV - VI -  IV - I

followed by the bridge

  V - III - V - II
III - IV - III - I
VI - VII

before hitting the G minor root note riff again.

That's not exactly PROG, but for a Purple/Rainbow chord structure pretty nifty. A lot of Blackmore numbers are four or five chords that move mostly in full or double bars, here he was trying something different here. (Deep Purple/Rainbow both weren't exactly 10cc as frequent chord changes go.)

If Blackmore hadn't already had a wandering eye for a way out from Purple, MOTSM should have been on Stormbringer. It would have been interesting to have heard what Coverdale, Hughes, Lord and Paice would have made of it. But in the Stormbringer sessions, Ritchie was already hoarding for his solo album (= the Rainbow debut) which he immediately recorded afterwards in Munich with DP-opener Elf (sans their lead guitarist Steve Edwards of course) as his backing band.

Your fellow-Holländers don't do a half-bad job with it, I've heard that song played and sung worse so often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HOViT9Ze68

(Let's face it: UDO's not very agile voice has issues covering all those chord changes.)

I like how the Dutch singer sounds like a cross between Dio and Coverdale, that gives it a Purple feel. Compliments!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 16, 2024, 10:06:21 AM
Always thought it was a bit of a rip-off from this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsMB5cxPc8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 16, 2024, 10:25:53 AM
You can hear the autotune doing overtime on the UDO recording. It sounds awful. :puke:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 10:41:50 AM
Always thought it was a bit of a rip-off from this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsMB5cxPc8

Which was a (spirited) cover of this one here (at 03:16)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LST-r4X6DAk

But I get it, MOTSM incorporates elements of it, true. Ritchie was always best when he elegantly purloined ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjnNebPVYTY

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/57e4d8a686e3a761328d16ad9d16a6bd/tumblr_ow3tdvxj961wsawzlo4_r1_400.gifv)


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 10:46:41 AM
You can hear the autotune doing overtime on the UDO recording. It sounds awful. :puke:

All the autotune-Vergeltungswaffen of ze Reich cannot save ze "German Tänk" here, he still sounds off-key in places ...

(https://www.metal-hammer.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/19/12/udo-panzerfahrt2_BINARY_294559.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 16, 2024, 10:50:05 AM
Which was a (spirited) cover of this one here (at 03:16)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LST-r4X6DAk

Yeah same song. That's what I meant.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 11:56:33 AM
Not to forget that band that stole that twin guitar harmony thing from your beloved Thin Lizzy originators … Here avec Trevor Bolder playing a fresh set of Rotosound Swing Bass. 😂

https://youtu.be/72tboGIH2cE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 16, 2024, 05:16:23 PM
The band that should be huge, but isn't. Modern Power Pop doesn't come better than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKU85c09xTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpAJvj0BXEI

Young people covering Ian Hunter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJTt95W2j0

And that other guy ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VPAJ99Q6U

Any similarities with Freddie Mercury are purely coincidental.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3pdmggiMMU

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 16, 2024, 07:56:50 PM
Back in Letterman's NBC days where they would only let two members of a guest band onstage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzKcxQGOKKE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 17, 2024, 12:08:04 PM
Weren‘t they the band with that little plump girl in a bee costume video?


Oops, obviously not, I always get confused with those post-grunge longhaired indie bands!

https://youtu.be/3qVPNONdF58
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 18, 2024, 09:57:45 AM
The Analogues do a great Beatles tribute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uJtlIF5tqc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 18, 2024, 05:20:10 PM
Oh my, this is for Proggy Tom, college shoegazer music with a Seattle grandma - did anyone just say Anathema and post-rock?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v76ye0vl-n4&list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4-pA3-Kwzg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 18, 2024, 05:27:27 PM
I faintly remember this guy for having sung in a band I never liked, but this here is a respectable performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsQBfB1VS3U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 18, 2024, 10:44:49 PM
The Lemonheads are definitely not post-grunge.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2024, 06:44:59 AM
They just look like it!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 19, 2024, 08:22:04 AM
Oh my, this is for Proggy Tom, college shoegazer music with a Seattle grandma - did anyone just say Anathema and post-rock?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v76ye0vl-n4&list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4-pA3-Kwzg

Wow, that was great, thanks Uwe! An Alembic bass too.  ;D
Man, she is still amazing.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2024, 09:42:21 AM
I like it too and applaud that at her age she is doing something so different from what Heart fans would expect.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on January 20, 2024, 11:56:16 AM


 Ann and Nancy outside on a cold day in Seattle........

https://youtu.be/NB8eGEjl4YU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2024, 01:28:23 PM
Cute - and it’s obviously so darn cold they have a little issue pitching properly.

Question: Do you really need four (!) guitarists to play this tune?  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2024, 01:31:14 PM
Just like Hamburgers, I like my Priest with a little cheese, third track from the forthcoming album ventures into the melodic 80ies …

https://youtu.be/BExNIGlVJTw

I think he’s singing about his pre-coming out days. He’s been with his life partner, an ex-Marine (who had never heard of Rob or Judas Priest when they first met over a relationship-seeking ad, doesn’t really like heavy metal and avoids all Rob-related publicity and media attention like the plague), almost three decades now.

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 22, 2024, 06:56:48 AM
https://youtu.be/gPwlB5LbGP4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 22, 2024, 08:46:48 AM
The Beatles seem to have the same effect on some girls today that they had many years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lo-kB7Mj_k
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 22, 2024, 09:11:02 AM
https://youtu.be/gPwlB5LbGP4

Terry Kath was incredible.  I think his vocals are better in this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-h7EN6WTM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 22, 2024, 11:39:09 AM
The Beatles seem to have the same effect on some girls today that they had many years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lo-kB7Mj_k

Yup, back in the day when seat humidity would automatically rise at those gigs. (And some of our more senior members here would exclaim "fish market!" most inaptly.  :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on January 22, 2024, 04:36:55 PM
“not a dry seat in the house” was the expression I recall.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 22, 2024, 09:08:46 PM
Terry Kath was incredible.  I think his vocals are better in this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-h7EN6WTM

I agree. Keep in mind that the clip I posted was from three months before his death. Whatever the circumstances of his death, he was supposedly very unhappy at the time.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 22, 2024, 09:31:33 PM
https://youtu.be/Kum4O_fh0_E
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 22, 2024, 09:36:06 PM
I agree. Keep in mind that the clip I posted was from three months before his death. Whatever the circumstances of his death, he was supposedly very unhappy at the time.

Oh, I see. Some people think it wasn't an accident?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 22, 2024, 10:22:35 PM
https://youtu.be/Kum4O_fh0_E

Well, that's certainly an unusual choice of a cover for her, but nicely done.

That Chicago stuff is great too, Kath was a force of nature.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 23, 2024, 06:07:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUD5snx-XOo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 23, 2024, 06:14:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQQTmsqt54
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 23, 2024, 07:29:58 AM
Oh, I see. Some people think it wasn't an accident?

It was first reported as an apparent suicide. I doubt we'll ever know the truth.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 23, 2024, 07:38:41 AM
It was first reported as an apparent suicide. I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

That would be horrible if true. But I guess if Jimi Hendrix says you're a better guitarist, where do you go from there?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 23, 2024, 11:02:44 PM
I would be hard-pressed to find someone who was a better guitarist/singer than Terry Kath.  Hendrix probably really did think Kath was better.  In real life JH was pretty shy and even humble, unlike his image on stage.  As for Kath, for me personally, it's his voice which really gets to me.  If I could choose a voice to sound like, it would probably be his. 

Here is more from Sheryl Crow, my favorite song by her.  Also, here is Sheryl with Mick Jagger.  It's probably not their best performance, but I really like the song.

https://youtu.be/1VN8Q0gKNkI


https://youtu.be/nMIfJdDvg5s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2024, 09:04:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUD5snx-XOo

Dylan & Ronson, lovely though unlikely combination. Ronson didn't even like Dylan's music nor was he especially acquainted with his work, but after a drunken session in Greenwich Village, Dylan extended an offer to him for the tour the next day. Ronson first thought he was joking - he wasn't. Ronson's wife (not much of a Dylan fan either): "You have to do this." Always listen to your wife!

PS: According to my most recent count, there are four (!) electric guitarists (including Dylan himself), one acoustic guitarist and one steel guitarist playing Hard Rain in that vid, did Dylan really need them all for a three chord song?  :mrgreen: Scorsese's film about the tour is nevertheless well worth a watch.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2024, 10:58:57 AM
I just happened to see this earlier this morning.  Jewel was the opening act for Dylan.  He hadn't even bothered listening to her.  His manager said he never listened to his opening acts.  But when he heard that Jewel had been having security kick out people who had been talking during her performances, Dylan was impressed by that.  He began talking to Jewel and gave her career advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1MCBgsbQQ&t=13s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2024, 02:53:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEIMCWob3U
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 24, 2024, 04:50:38 PM
Great suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnxwP8vLRg

And even Spice Girls are redeemed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw5HdK8_p6w

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 24, 2024, 04:51:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEIMCWob3U

I love that tune and the chorus, but I can't understand the meaning of any six words in a row in that tune.  I looked up the lyrics and it might as well have been sung in Patagoonian - other than the chorus.

But that's my reaction to much of Dylan's writing. Often good tunes, some good hooks ("everybody must get stoned") and aside from that, mostly incomprehensible lyrics. That was often the case with some 60s and 70s music -  the lyrics made no sense to me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2024, 05:24:50 PM
I love that tune and the chorus, but I can't understand the meaning of any six words in a row in that tune.  I looked up the lyrics and it might as well have been sung in Patagoonian - other than the chorus.

But that's my reaction to much of Dylan's writing. Often good tunes, some good hooks ("everybody must get stoned") and aside from that, mostly incomprehensible lyrics. That was often the case with some 60s and 70s music -  the lyrics made no sense to me.

This doesn't clear up the lyrics which seem incomprehensible.  But looking at the interpretations, it helps to know it is Dylan trying to reconcile his older with his younger self.  The younger self was idealistic and certain.  The older self isn't so sure and now sees gray rather than just black and white. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 24, 2024, 05:49:21 PM
This doesn't clear up the lyrics which seem incomprehensible.  But looking at the interpretations, it helps to know it is Dylan trying to reconcile his older with his younger self.  The younger self was idealistic and certain.  The older self isn't so sure and now sees gray rather than just black and white.

I think that's quite accurate. It's the other 95% of the song I haven't a clue about. But that's normal for me and Dylan.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 24, 2024, 06:11:11 PM
Doug turns 88 today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntg-VpERRgU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 24, 2024, 06:15:43 PM
RIP Melanie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCTMTflcuug
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 24, 2024, 06:22:46 PM
I think that's quite accurate. It's the other 95% of the song I haven't a clue about. But that's normal for me and Dylan.

I feel the same way.  Plus, Dylan is on such a level that I wouldn't even try to totally understand him.  George Harrison idolized him so much that he began trying to sound like Dylan when he sang.  Personally, I don't think that was a good idea.  But that's what happened.  Jimi Hendrix took a book of Dylan's lyrics around with him all the time in case he needed to be inspired. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 25, 2024, 02:53:56 AM
RIP Melanie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCTMTflcuug

Oh my, how sad. I really loved that song as a kid, the innocent sex innuendo of the lyrics. Melanie wasn’t a great singer, but she had a voice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 25, 2024, 09:02:35 AM
Doug turns 88 today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntg-VpERRgU

Incredible that he could actually play that fiddle while moving around like that.  I see rosin halfway up the fingerboard.  But it worked for him!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 25, 2024, 11:17:30 AM
This has been my favorite song by 38 Special for years.  I couldn't find a live version I liked.  So I just decided to post this. 

https://youtu.be/8_2bofm90og

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 25, 2024, 11:23:27 PM
Incredible that he could actually play that fiddle while moving around like that.  I see rosin halfway up the fingerboard.  But it worked for him!

I don't know if he's playing gigs any more, he's at least semi-retired and living in Colorado. He was selling some of his vast fiddle collection one by one on eBay a few years ago, signed upon request.

But he was still moving around while playing as late as 2016. It's just his style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTSc1JQHDw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2024, 04:21:11 AM
This has been my favorite song by 38 Special for years.  I couldn't find a live version I liked.  So I just decided to post this. 

https://youtu.be/8_2bofm90og

Great tune, co-written by the Survivor guy*** for the Southern Boys to finally have a hit and sung not by lead vocalist Donnie Van Zant, but one of the guitarists (also co-writers) for his more AORish voice (Don Barnes). How could you not post the official vid, a jewel of early 80ies cheese and All-American blondes**** in knotted blouses and (presumably) sprayed-on jeans?

https://youtu.be/VQeHPoRunO4

I never grow tired of that song and its lovely chord descension. It’s utterly bland AND brilliant! The guitar solo by the Explorer-wielding guy (Jeff Carlisi) is a master class in sleek US AOR melodicism with a Southern Rock twist.


***Jim Peterik, who also wrote Vehicle for The Ides of March (originally offered to Blood, Sweat & Tears, but inexplicably turned down by them) and, of course, Eye Of The Tiger.

****Shari Shattuck, who can still wear jeans and is these days a book author after a modeling and acting career.

(https://media0033.elcinema.com/uploads/_640x_b9db882c5b23d7a7d59fde8442704063137b646eb142e4f24666382a2e809895.jpg)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 26, 2024, 06:01:09 AM
Jim Peterik, age 73 and still running around with purple hair.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2024, 06:15:30 AM
True, his look is a bit on the unsettling Phil Spector side of things.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2024, 06:18:27 AM
Four (-1) Non-Blondes doing a song I would not want to genre-categorize here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bEJ3TRDNfE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 26, 2024, 08:48:02 AM
Not that it matters, but I never cared for 38 Special. I always felt they just had the Van Zant guy in the band to add some sort of "Southern street cred". And two drummers (ala Allman Bros)? For THAT kind of music???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJtf7R_oVaw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 26, 2024, 08:51:25 AM
I had a hard time with Graham's image, but he sure sounds great here. Love this tune. Guitarist and bassist seem familiar?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRLHHftZEJA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on January 26, 2024, 09:46:08 AM
I don't know if he's playing gigs any more, he's at least semi-retired and living in Colorado. He was selling some of his vast fiddle collection one by one on eBay a few years ago, signed upon request.

But he was still moving around while playing as late as 2016. It's just his style.


There was a restaurant with his name on Highway 85 about 40 miles north of Denver for years.  (85 was the old N-S highway, I-25 made it a secondary highway) I noticed the name changed about 5 years ago.  I don't know how close his connection to it was.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2024, 10:13:24 AM
From Jim Peterik:

"There was a lot of resentment that I was writing songs not only for Survivor, but I was writing them with .38 Special too. I'm talking about resentment from my own band, Survivor. What I tried to explain to them, which fell on deaf ears, was that the .38 songs would never have been right for Survivor. They came from another place in me and were very much a product of the synergy of Don Barnes, Jim Peterik and Jeff Carlisi. All they could see was competition on the charts from someone who wrote the songs for both bands. When .38 Special came in to write for the next record, I was kind of sneaking around. Survivor didn't even know .38 Special was in town. We had to find places to write songs. We couldn't go to the band house, and at my house, what if one of the guys stopped over? So we went to my mother's house and wrote in the basement. We were writing 'Caught Up In You' in this gloomy room in my mother's basement all dark and dank, and we're writing this hit song. I was feeling like the bad kid playing hooky or something." (Jim is author of the book Songwriting For Dummies.)

End of quote

Personally, I've got to say I'm not much of a fan of Survivor and really not much of 38 Special, either.  But I do very much like "Caught Up in You."  I guess the video to it is okay, but kind of out-of-place in today's world.  But that particular song always resonated with me a lot. 

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 26, 2024, 12:43:04 PM
I had a hard time with Graham's image, but he sure sounds great here. Love this tune. Guitarist and bassist seem familiar?  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRLHHftZEJA

I think they both played with Led Zeppelin once.

Graham’s short hair and lounge lizard attire was an issue for me like for 10 seconds, his vocals, though high, were so manly. And I liked his laddishness and devil may care attitude on stage. I it was all new to him, he had never really toured for extended periods before and had never heard of Rainbow nor did he like hard rock.

I saw him win over a belligerent audience of Rainbow fans raised on their beloved Dio when he toured Germany with Rainbow for the first time. As he appeared on stage with his James Dean haircut, the dinner jacket, a Hawaii shirt and red trousers, they gasped for air, but he had them eating from his hand by the end of the first song (Eyes of the World).

But for you, Tom, here’s the long hair version …

https://youtu.be/opewHESNVgE

Re .38 Special, yup, they weren’t the most credible proponents of Southern Rock (but those tunes!), true, and very much a US phenomenon. Germany preferred Molly Hatchet at the time:

https://youtu.be/5ptuUmxtB_g

And Blackfoot!

https://youtu.be/rMclpOK7a2w








Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2024, 12:59:31 PM
I decided to buy the deluxe edition of Special Forces by .38 Special on CD.  I had never got any of their music before.  But it looks like it may be hard to get at some point.  Once you see used CDs selling for what you'd expect to pay for new, you know things may be starting to get scarce.  I got that one new.  I hate buying used but will if it's the only choice.  With some of these second-tier bands like .38 Special, you can't be sure how easy it will be to keep finding their music. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 26, 2024, 01:59:10 PM
Not that it matters, but I never cared for 38 Special. I always felt they just had the Van Zant guy in the band to add some sort of "Southern street cred". And two drummers (ala Allman Bros)? For THAT kind of music???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJtf7R_oVaw

Larry Junstrom, the bass player, was the original bassist for Lynyrd Skynyrd before Leon Wilkeson. He did great work on the song "Rockin' into the night". YouTube won't let me post because I have an adblocker on my desktop at work. Anybody else dealing with the same issue? Any solutions?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2024, 09:53:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xMCaGTydQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1722VFxD-qI

Here are live and studio versions of the song. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 26, 2024, 10:38:32 PM
.38 Special playing "Around and Around" at Winterland 1977.  No, they were never on the Allman Brothers level to be sure.  Or Lynyrd Skynyrd.  But I would definitely put them ahead of the Marshall Tucker band.  I sure wish I could have seen them at Winterland instead of the Marshall Tucker concert I once went to because of friends insisting on it.  (I mentioned this years ago on another thread.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heCfot8hFbk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 26, 2024, 11:50:37 PM
That's more than enough .38 Special for me, thanks.

Aside from all his other big country hits, Don Gibson's songwriting royalties from I Can't Stop Loving You and Sweet Dreams were enough to make him wealthy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z4kPGcmyPI

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 27, 2024, 02:03:20 AM
Underrated Canadian guitarist Frank Marino.  Unfortunately, Marino is too ill to play in public anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd5MA4sKefI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 27, 2024, 08:58:46 AM
Thanks for posting Westen! Hey Dave, isn't about time for a hiatus on Deep Purple too?   :vader:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on January 27, 2024, 09:01:07 AM
Thanks for posting Westen! Hey Dave, isn't about time for a hiatus on Deep Purple too?   :vader:

No problem!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 27, 2024, 10:03:27 AM
I think they both played with Led Zeppelin once.

Graham’s short hair and lounge lizard attire was an issue for me like for 10 seconds, his vocals, though high, were so manly. And I liked his laddishness and devil may care attitude on stage. I it was all new to him, he had never really toured for extended periods before and had never heard of Rainbow nor did he like hard rock.

I saw him win over a belligerent audience of Rainbow fans raised on their beloved Dio when he toured Germany with Rainbow for the first time. As he appeared on stage with his James Dean haircut, the dinner jacket, a Hawaii shirt and red trousers, they gasped for air, but he had them eating from his hand by the end of the first song (Eyes of the World).

But for you, Tom, here’s the long hair version …

https://youtu.be/opewHESNVgE

Wow! What a vocal performance that was.

Larry Junstrom, the bass player, was the original bassist for Lynyrd Skynyrd before Leon Wilkeson. He did great work on the song "Rockin' into the night".

Cool, I had no idea. I know Ed King played bass on the first album, but I didn't know there was a guy before Leon. The bass does stand out on some of the .38 stuff.

Underrated Canadian guitarist Frank Marino.  Unfortunately, Marino is too ill to play in public anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd5MA4sKefI

I saw Mahogany Rush in 1980 with Humble Pie and Angel. Frank was enjoying a little success here in the states with "Strange Dreams" at the time. He was REALLY loud, and there seemed to be a guitar solo between every song, but it was a very cool night at the good old Aragon Brawlroom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So9Ee64XYsY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 27, 2024, 05:55:45 PM
Bonnie Guitar (Bonnie Buckingham Tutmarc) on vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skfqZUy20NQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2024, 07:12:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_vTY67Wd9I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 29, 2024, 03:35:25 PM
Just watched the documentary on Netflix
Highly recommendable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD3oU1gowu4

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2024, 08:24:50 PM
The Party Starts Now!!: Handsome Dick Manitoba Turns 70 (https://rockandrollglobe.com/rock/the-party-starts-now-handsome-dick-manitoba-turns-70/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDdNAxef2Q
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on January 29, 2024, 09:16:29 PM
Handsome Dick Manitoba is an incredibly nice guy.  He's a friend's daughter's godfather.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2024, 10:01:46 PM
Yeah, I think I prefer Handsome Dick to the mawkish We Are The World too, they really should have given him a solo vocal spot there, he might have prevented it from being THAT grotesquely syrupy. He has a knack for lightening things up ("here ... where the streets are paved, here ... in the USA").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35EOvM3mhxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnGMtrMAkPg


I'm not against charity singles per se - I really liked Do They Know It's Christmas as a tune. It was far more uplifting "let's get this done and help" than the overbearingly mock-passionate We Are The World, really a song like Steven Spielberg does movies.

And then no guitar solos - quite unlike this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5H94GHb-10

Rant over, We Are The World was of course for a commendable cause and I'm happy it did as well as it did.
There was German charity single too at the time, namely Nackt im Wind (Naked in the Wind),

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLqv_35llH8

my guess is that there is a Dutch one as well? Let's hear it, Rob!

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 30, 2024, 12:44:18 AM
I don't particularly like the song.
But the documentary is great.

All those world famous artists in one room. Having to leave their ego at the door.
Bob Dylan feeling very uncomfortable and nervous. Stevie Wonder helping him out on the piano.
Waylon Jennings quitting, because "Good Old Boys don't sing no Swahili"
And Lionel Richie hosting the AMA and coordinating the entire recording all in one(!) night.

You really should check it out.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2024, 05:08:23 AM
Lionel Richie is an exquisite musician, no two ways about it.

Yup, I'll watch it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 30, 2024, 06:24:38 AM
Attaboy!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on January 30, 2024, 09:39:58 AM
Let's not forget this gem! Thank goodness nobody struck a match in that room.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kXEtrIy3jU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2024, 10:19:04 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  Ah, your profound chemical combustion knowledge, Proggie Boy! Hydrogen peroxide ...

These were all charitable Vikings no doubt. From pillage + plunder to sending food to Ethiopia 'down under', who says mankind can't progress?  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on January 30, 2024, 10:42:03 AM
Wahhaaaa that is so hilarious.

All those Swedes in one room and they had just one hairdresser (with a bazzilion spray cans)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2024, 11:22:30 AM
It was co-sponsored by the Swedish Poodle Club, canines against famines***.

*** Sigh, an imperfect eye rhyme only, I know.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2613/3764654945_d4f32fb982_z.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsuNvNE-_SE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2024, 05:54:20 PM
Norma Jean is 86 today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOy4QyR0bTM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 01, 2024, 10:46:44 PM
Ween can always be counted on for sensitive lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI9a95GiXSM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 02, 2024, 07:43:17 AM
Jerry Lee was one of the very few performers who played live on Dick Clark.

Bassist J.W. Brown was his first cousin and father of Myra Gail.

https://youtu.be/8dQ4M8RYqCE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2024, 03:22:37 AM
Even considering the times that was hard to stomach/watch.

(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/6193884/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2141x2779+0+0/resize/1200x1558!/format/webp/quality/75/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fdc%2Fc3%2F0e8a907d44e49c93f8dd2960b6f1%2Fap580524026.jpg)

She had her first child from him as a 14-year-old, the second one as a 17-year-old.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2022-10-28/jerry-lee-lewis-myra-gale-brown-third-wife-book

JLL met (rightful) backlash at the time and suffered commercially for his decision, but nothing compared to what he would face in the present.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2024, 03:27:15 AM
Men at work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMlvMsGRouM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 04, 2024, 06:13:26 AM
JLL is in heaven along with Little Richard.  😇
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2024, 06:27:21 AM
In that case Ted Nugent has hope too.  8)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 04, 2024, 05:10:48 PM
Then Frenchie Burke must be in Cajun heaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8u8e2non9c
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2024, 04:43:45 AM
Why is that, did he fiddle with anything that might put him in the same category as the aforementioned gentlemen?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 05, 2024, 02:36:25 PM
Why is that, did he fiddle with anything that might put him in the same category as the aforementioned gentlemen?

He wasn't involved in any scandal, AFAIK, if that's what you're asking. He was a great fiddler and a great showman.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PM
Blind Boy Fuller did more than What's That Smells Like Fish.

https://youtu.be/x10BgiKaLcw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 05, 2024, 06:19:38 PM
He was a bad influence on you, Dave.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 06, 2024, 09:19:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRd_CnrwPL0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2024, 09:36:27 PM
Aren't the siblings recording a new album together?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2024, 10:46:43 PM
Anybody remember this little ditty of primal Dadaist minimalism? It was huge in Germany (No 4 in the charts in 1970). It evolved from a jam to check out the drum recording quality of a then new studio they had bought for themselves. The vocals and paleontology-inspired nonsense lyrics came about by accident, Lol Creme sang along unmiked to Kevin Godley recording drum tracks for demo purposes and as they multi-tracked the drums several times over his voice - though still distant and indirect - became more and more audible.

"As we laid down the drum tracks, Lol was singing in the studio with Kevin keeping time – and after we'd laid four drum tracks down Lol's voice came through at a very high level, sounding like something none of us had ever heard before on a record. It really sounded very strange, so we carried on working on the number, adding little bits of piano to it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY


These three gentlemen + Graham Gouldman would become thinking man's pop 10cc a few years later.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 07, 2024, 09:01:57 PM
Aren't the siblings recording a new album together?

Ray says he's been recording some new music with his bandmates, That may or may not mean a new album.


Anybody remember this little ditty of primal Dadaist minimalism? It was huge in Germany (No 4 in the charts in 1970). It evolved from a jam to check out the drum recording quality of a then new studio they had bought for themselves. The vocals and paleontology-inspired nonsense lyrics came about by accident, Lol Creme sang along unmiked to Kevin Godley recording drum tracks for demo purposes and as they multi-tracked the drums several times over his voice - though still distant and indirect - became more and more audible.

"As we laid down the drum tracks, Lol was singing in the studio with Kevin keeping time – and after we'd laid four drum tracks down Lol's voice came through at a very high level, sounding like something none of us had ever heard before on a record. It really sounded very strange, so we carried on working on the number, adding little bits of piano to it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY


These three gentlemen + Graham Gouldman would become thinking man's pop 10cc a few years later.

I remember it, not a top 10 hit here but it did chart. Some people confused it with the Kinks, since Apeman was out at about the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk18z2BwqvM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 08, 2024, 03:32:50 AM
I get it, they both sound British, are stompy + folky and then there is the primate connection ...

I would like to stress though that our Neanderthal ancestors weren't apes! And we still carry their genome around, it has especially shaped our immune system in both a good and a bad way.

https://apnews.com/article/neanderthals-denisovans-genetics-dna-disease-e49cb7d939cfe5d583e7ed0af8751784

PS: Neanderthal Man hit no 22 on the US Billboard Hot 100 charts, not bad for such a curio/novelty song.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 08, 2024, 03:32:14 PM
Never been a GnR fan but this popped up. Interesting.

I may be in love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfBxudHWIA

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 08, 2024, 04:45:31 PM
It's amazing how far you can get with D, C and G (or the I-bVII-IV-I progression), be it Satisfaction (chorus), Gloria, Sympathy for the Devil (verse), Hey Jude (coda), Alright Now (chorus and solo), Woman from Tokyo (coda), Sweet Home Alabama, Fox on the Run, Highway to Hell (chorus), White Wedding (verse, but played as i-bVII-IV-i, i.e. the first chord as a minor) or this!

I always heard that song as William Bruce Rose from Lafayette, Indiana, channeling his inner Americana. Good tune though (and I'm no GnR fan). To my ears he has always sung - dare I write this? - a C&W melody there.

And I always assumed that Slash did not want to solo over the verse progression for the simple fear of sounding all too Southern/Lynyrd Skynyrd, hence the somewhat wanton key change to E minor for his solo (at 03:24 in the above cover). Basically the song is made up of two songs because once they have key-changed to the dark and dramatic E minor mid-song they stay there and do not return to the country-viby D/C/G/D that makes up much of the first part.

It's a nice version alright, but proper tuning of her Taylor guitar wouldn't have harmed the rootsiness. It's the ole conundrum, if you tune your guitar pitch-perfect to D it ain't gonna sound good in E and vice versa. Bitch of a song then.

PS: "I may be in love."

(summoning great empathy) Sigh, is that Gwyneth type still lingering with you, Dave?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 08, 2024, 11:57:19 PM

PS: "I may be in love."

(summoning great empathy) Sigh, is that Gwyneth type still lingering with you, Dave?

I prefer brunettes. Especially dark brown hair. Always have.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 03:10:42 AM
I know, Valerie B and all that even though you don't really tap.

(https://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-33782-0-1593890975-88025.jpg)

But Gwyneth said she'd accommodate you if you forgive her!

(https://assets.afcdn.com/album/D20130516/914774_NR5EN52T153YZZADHAUNGR6M6ZIU3O_10-gwyneth-paltrow-hair_H194613_L.jpg)

You're a very difficult man, Dave.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 09, 2024, 09:14:00 AM
I know, Valerie B and all that even though you don't really tap.

(https://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-33782-0-1593890975-88025.jpg)

But Gwyneth said she'd accommodate you if you forgive her!

(https://assets.afcdn.com/album/D20130516/914774_NR5EN52T153YZZADHAUNGR6M6ZIU3O_10-gwyneth-paltrow-hair_H194613_L.jpg)

You're a very difficult man, Dave.
 


 I had such a crush on her when I was young!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 09:32:33 AM
This is now - and not just from a gender perspective I am breathless to add*** - very confusing, Mark, which one, Valerie or Gwyneth?

***Last we heard, you wanted to straddle him:

(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/gary-thain-3-jpg.814661/)

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 09, 2024, 11:18:31 AM
This is now - and not just from a gender perspective I am breathless to add*** - very confusing, Mark, which one, Valerie or Gwyneth?

***Last we heard, you wanted to straddle him:

(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/gary-thain-3-jpg.814661/)
 


 Valerie for sure, I didn't even know of Miss Horseface back then!  ;D

Don't go slaggin' anyone from Uriah Heep, those guys looked like, and were real rock stars - Long before the term was ruined.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 11:41:16 AM
A junkie and a friggin' alcoholic!

But yeah, Thain had great rhythmic and melodic feel and a sober Byron could front a band, though I thought his best work was actually with Rough Diamond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9hvA_H2bk&t=276s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 09, 2024, 12:14:44 PM
A junkie and a friggin' alcoholic!

But yeah, Thain had great rhythmic and melodic feel and a sober Byron could front a band, though I thought his best work was actually with Rough Diamond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9hvA_H2bk&t=276s
 

 A junkie and an alcoholic.................Like I said, Rock Stars!

Both gone way too soon, Thain, I really admired him a lot.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 09, 2024, 02:42:20 PM
I prefer brunettes. Especially dark brown hair. Always have.

I have a friend who is obsessed with blondes.  He kept assuming I was the same way.  Finally, it dawned on him what was happening.  That I felt about brunettes the way he felt about blondes.  The difference being he has a true obsession with blondes and I have a preference, not an obsession, for brunettes.   
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2024, 03:16:09 PM
"Thain, I really admired him a lot."

Yet you never became a finger player - that particular aspect being pretty determinative for his style.

While there are finger players like Thain, Trevor Bolder, Geddy Lee and Neil Murray I really like, I've always been drawn to (mostly) pick players like Roger Glover, Glenn Hughes, Martin Turner, Macca, John Gustafson, John McCoy, Joe Bouchard, Dennis Dunaway, Gene Simmons, Bob Daisley or Jim Lea.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 09, 2024, 05:08:03 PM
"Thain, I really admired him a lot."

Yet you never became a finger player - that particular aspect being pretty determinative for his style.

While there are finger players like Thain, Trevor Bolder, Geddy Lee and Neil Murray I really like, I've always been drawn to (mostly) pick players like Roger Glover, Glenn Hughes, Martin Turner, Macca, John Gustafson, John McCoy, Joe Bouchard, Dennis Dunaway, Gene Simmons, Bob Daisley or Jim Lea.
   

 Our current set list does give me the chance to play finger style quite a bit more it used to, I have to say that I really enjoy it a lot. But, I do not possess the strength or dexterity to really carry the whole night, that''ll never happen!
 I probably like more pick players too, but then I hear Andy Fraser getting that huge woofy tone of his and I wonder why I don't have a nice EB-3 with some cool banjo tuners :)



Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 09, 2024, 10:40:28 PM
Back to listening. In the same vein, here's a family bluegrass band with a non-bluegrass cover. That's the mom on bass.

https://youtu.be/DF5emO1X0HA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 09, 2024, 10:56:23 PM
Can't not bring up these guys.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlm5pqFKnW4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 10, 2024, 02:06:52 PM
Remembering the good old days when Austin City Limits was about roots music instead of creatures like Billie Eilish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqBH7jLb0I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 11, 2024, 02:35:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX3KOaJvly4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 12, 2024, 08:06:09 PM
Moe Bandy is 80 today. But none of you need me to tell you that, right?

Time for a good old cheatin' song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kq29Me3Fg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2024, 01:14:41 PM
The experimental part of 10cc, always loved when they break into the Manhattan Transfer type chorus at 01:32:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJre-YHmLaI

Or this classic here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a_PRcVYX7g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 13, 2024, 01:31:46 PM
^^^

The uploader hasn't made the second video available in the USA. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 13, 2024, 01:40:02 PM
Better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypMnBuvP5kA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on February 13, 2024, 10:40:07 PM
That works!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2024, 11:43:53 PM
Back on a 50s kick today. Love that 50s sax sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vOW6zDRA3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYGNvdhXSwQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 17, 2024, 04:36:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0AAhg4tlaU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 17, 2024, 04:42:27 PM
The bass player here is Paul Turner from Jamiroquai.


https://youtu.be/wiPKglkUrQ8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2024, 07:32:37 AM
Real country for once …

https://youtu.be/TjDAiq2-xeU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2024, 03:01:06 PM
 :mrgreen: :) ;D ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrj_uCWxp5Y
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2024, 06:16:05 PM
Real Aussie country. The song was based on a poem about a real event.

https://youtu.be/7bIJV8gaBK4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 19, 2024, 10:18:39 AM
:mrgreen: :) ;D ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrj_uCWxp5Y

Fantastic!

Real Aussie country.

So like Keith Urban?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2024, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: gearHed289


So like Keith Urban?  ;) ;D

No, like Keith Country.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
https://youtu.be/9jHLdo_RRUc


A guitarist I played with used to love his percussive right hand thumb & index style - that solo at 02:28 …
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on February 19, 2024, 03:11:58 PM
Always loved Johnny Guitar Watson , even the disco stuff.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2024, 08:34:36 AM
I love me some Peter Wolf! He's 78, as lithe as he always was and his voice and his movements are also still there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2N1IYGszOI

The J. Geils Band and him never got the lasting public recognition they deserved (the irony that he left them after their most successful album!), but they remain among my most favorite US bands and Wolf among the best US rock front men ever.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2024, 01:48:45 PM
Willie's boy Lukas, last night on Kimmel.

https://youtu.be/ayGfdceJVDM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2024, 02:05:27 PM
It reminds me of something Little Feat would have done.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2024, 08:32:59 PM
Funny that you would say that. I saw today that Little Feat is starting a tour with Los Lobos.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2024, 08:06:53 PM
HE ...

IS ...

THE ...

AGE ...

KIL-LER !!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dqi19sOyNE

It's amazing he can still do that shrieky falsetto so well at 72, but if I'm perfectly honest: Of all his different voices I like the "Painkiller"-one the least. It must be MY age, but I prefer him like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEx8xMO-CTk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 22, 2024, 09:07:31 PM
1975 - one of the last glam rock numbers ABBA did, très cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZskAO2VUHPE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 23, 2024, 07:29:11 AM
If I didn't know who was singing that second Halford song, I would have guessed Neil Diamond.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2024, 08:17:59 AM
When Halford is not switching on his falsetto or his idiosyncratic "throat distortion", he has a very pleasant and quintessentially Brit lower register. Former choir boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyl8a394-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVCB581Ibpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4rfGMKoUw

The Neil Diamond comparison is not a bad one (and I'm sure Halford would be chuffed), they have a similar velvety timbre.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 23, 2024, 08:28:51 AM
The Cult do a great AC/DC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S6SpFBKdqw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2024, 08:49:32 AM
And not the only ones they were ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PmXZ9xnOU4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 23, 2024, 08:56:03 AM
Wow
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2024, 09:30:48 AM
You didn't know about them and their deep poetry?  Never heard of a Sex Führer? ;D

"Well I love TV and I love T- Rex
I can see through your skirt
I've got X-Ray specs
I came from the sky like a 747
I'm the bad boy baby, I fell out of heaven
Sex Führer baby, I'm a love dictator
Blitzkrieg romance, I'm a cruel dominator

Well I'm Christ in shades, I'm a Napalm God
Your lipstick flickers round my lightning rod
You fever pitch bitch, you love to tease
Well I'm a Hot Dog Daddy up on your knees
Sex Führer baby, I'm a love dictator
Blitzkrieg Romance, I'm a living detonator"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWwaJb963TY

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 23, 2024, 09:31:54 AM
Oh, I knew them. But that video is... something.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 23, 2024, 09:43:49 AM
I guess you could say they weren't overtly PC-obsessed and risque wasn't a bad thing to them. Frankie Goes To Hollywood meets AC/DC meets Rocky Horror Picture Show house band!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on February 23, 2024, 09:49:12 AM
Haha.  Good description.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on February 23, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
Nothing wrong with a healthy AC/DC influence 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1m-DJ5u-0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2024, 12:21:59 PM
In the meantime, another submission for some Real Country, we await the judgement of our Senior Juror and former New Braunfels resident with no less than bated breath ...

https://youtu.be/ycwtqqhV6UE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 24, 2024, 02:33:33 PM
There's a more minimal version - just for boob men who like to watch endless replays of one shot. Reminds me of the Robert Palmer "Addicted to Love."  Boils the visual of any music video down to pretty women undulating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238Z4YaAr1g

And for us Robert Palmer fans, here's the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2024, 12:51:04 AM
In the meantime, another submission for some Real Country, we await the judgement of our Senior Juror and former New Braunfels resident with no less than bated breath ...

https://youtu.be/ycwtqqhV6UE

lol.

It's not a bad song, but what she's doing here is what you youngsters call cosplaying. She's playing the role of a country singer. The song isn't country music.

Ever heard of Judy Canova? She was an actress who played the role of s country bumpkin girl hillbilly singer. That's what most of what now passes as country music actually is. Singers playing a role, usually with fake accents.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2024, 07:40:27 AM
You were comparatively mild with her, Dave, are you ok?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2024, 07:43:59 PM
These ladies are currently all the rage in Ole Blighty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhC0ZaTD_-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjJfY1xwzvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETz4IMmeDU

It's edgy Indie Pop with a 60ies Girl Group vibe, I don't see or hear anything to dislike. Reminds me of them here who I thought were (and are) great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8VjINhW2FU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2024, 09:10:02 PM
"It's not a bad song, but what she's doing here is what you youngsters call cosplaying. She's playing the role of a country singer."

Oh, I get it, you mean a minstrel show in reverse!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2024, 09:19:39 PM
"It's not a bad song, but what she's doing here is what you youngsters call cosplaying. She's playing the role of a country singer."

Oh, I get it, you mean a minstrel show in reverse!

 :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2024, 09:51:32 AM
I'm terrible at telling the Three Dog Night singers (Chuck Negron, Danny Hutton & Cory Wells) apart when I don't see them, this vid is always helpful, because they all take turns verse for verse ...  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpdkX-9BF_Q

I tend to envisage all their songs with Chuck Negron (Mr Mustache) singing lead, probably because I deemed him the most handsome and coolest looking as a teen. But really they shared all their many hits pretty equally as regards who sang lead:

Lead vocal credits:

"An Old Fashioned Love Song" – Negron

"Black and White" – Hutton

"Celebrate" – Hutton (Verse 1), Negron (Verse 2), Wells (Verse 3), who sings melody through the end refrain

"Easy to Be Hard" – Negron

"Eli's Coming" – Wells

"Joy to the World" – Negron

"Let Me Serenade You" – Wells

"Liar" – Hutton

"Mama Told Me (Not to Come)" – Wells

"Never Been to Spain" – Wells

"One" – Negron

"One Man Band" – Hutton sings melody with Negron on harmony on verses, then Negron takes the lead through the end refrain

"Out in the Country" – Group vocal in unison

"Pieces of April" – Negron

"Play Something Sweet (Brickyard Blues)" – Wells

"Shambala" – Wells

"Sure As I'm Sittin' Here" – Wells

"The Family of Man" – Hutton (Verse 1), Negron (Verse 2), Wells (Verse 3)

"The Show Must Go On" – Negron

"Til the World Ends" – Negron

"Try a Little Tenderness" – Wells

"Your Song" – Hutton

Considering how much of a chart commodity they were from the late 60ies to the mid 70ies, amassing countless hits and chalking up album sales of 60 million, they've really been wiped from collective memory. I know, I know, they didn't write the songs they sang, always working with outside writer material, but neither did Elvis who was the first RRHF inductee in 1986. But I guess by the 70ies you were expected to write your own material as a credible group, I'd call it the "Beatles Effect".
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on February 26, 2024, 10:56:32 AM


 This makes me (almost) want to cancel my subscription to 'Women's Underwear Monthly"    Almost.  :-*
 https://youtu.be/sEXHeTcxQy4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2024, 12:39:30 PM
Oh man, this is great! And I'm talking about the music which sounds like it crept out of London circa 1973.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on February 26, 2024, 12:46:33 PM
Oh man, this is great! And I'm talking about the music which sounds like it crept out of London circa 1973.

Agreed. A nice, lively tune.

Looked for the lyrics (which I couldn't understand, as usual) and learned:

"A rocking homage to a burlesque dancer, who’s married to The Fratellis' singer. Known in the hockey world as the Chicago Blackhawks goal song."
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on February 27, 2024, 09:07:56 AM
Yeah, that's been the Blackhawks' song for around 15 years now, and I'm tired of it. The video on the other hand...  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 01, 2024, 06:31:01 PM
FULL  STADIUM  ROCK  ALERT  !!!

Now that‘s a catchy tune! Remixed by Dweezil Zappa from the original masters with some details you haven‘t heard before …

https://youtu.be/Q2FzZSBD5LE

And that, my  dear brethren, is how a Ric is meant to sound.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 03, 2024, 07:59:42 AM
Does a man his age and wealth really still have to do the appointments with the smack dealer himself? :mrgreen:

https://youtu.be/5NcJvi5TYEk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2024, 11:06:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKJzjEhB6Hk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 04, 2024, 11:09:23 AM
Fiona Apple's cover of The Waterboys' The Whole of the Moon still gives me goosebumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dZ5KjFLxgA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 04, 2024, 11:28:48 AM
I was once holding a ladder for my wife and started singing "I saw the whole of the moon" as she started descending it, and it didn't go down well.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 04, 2024, 11:31:15 AM
Context!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 04, 2024, 02:00:42 PM
Is the context safe for minors?  :rolleyes:

I'm worried already.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 04, 2024, 02:20:27 PM
They have asses, too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 04, 2024, 03:27:37 PM
Alan has a track record of being misunderstood notwithstanding his best intentions that permeate all his communication, be it oral or in writing. Tragic.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: TBird1958 on March 04, 2024, 03:37:50 PM
FULL  STADIUM  ROCK  ALERT  !!!

Now that‘s a catchy tune! Remixed by Dweezil Zappa from the original masters with some details you haven‘t heard before …

https://youtu.be/Q2FzZSBD5LE

And that, my  dear brethren, is how a Ric is meant to sound.
   

 Uwe listening to Deep Purple......... Yes. the world does continue to turn  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 04, 2024, 04:08:10 PM
Yes, it's been played to death, but Machine Head is a friggin' Taj Mahal


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Taj_Mahal%2C_Agra%2C_India_edit3.jpg/1920px-Taj_Mahal%2C_Agra%2C_India_edit3.jpg)


of sleek & elegant, not lumbering heavy rock. Nuff said.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 05, 2024, 04:54:55 PM
Alan has a track record of being misunderstood notwithstanding his best intentions that permeate all his communication, be it oral or in writing. Tragic.

I shall savour this lingering ambiguity.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 06, 2024, 08:03:57 PM
I was once holding a ladder for my wife and started singing "I saw the whole of the moon" as she started descending it, and it didn't go down well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvWfbIe4X_4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 07, 2024, 10:35:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvWfbIe4X_4

 :mrgreen: Yup, that worked fairly well 30+ years ago and Alan might have been interpreted as being a bit more complimentary. Or......?? I wonder what a bald, wild, creek living beaver looks like? Hmm, well maybe something like this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Naked_mole_rat.jpg)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2024, 12:18:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjvAiSLx6fs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2024, 08:53:35 PM
I've posted the song before but hadn't seen this video before.

https://youtu.be/Qa7uJ60N1jY
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2024, 03:37:05 AM
Are there any Dave Edmunds vids left Dave has not posted yet?  :mrgreen: ;D ;)

He's infatuated with the man!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 08, 2024, 08:07:30 AM
Are there any Dave Edmunds vids left Dave has not posted yet?  :mrgreen: ;D ;)

He's infatuated with the man!

In a six year old thread, I've probably posted a whopping dozen of his videos. There are many more that I could have posted.

He's retired now but he's really the last link to 50s style rock 'n' roll.

Anyway, how about some real country for this morning. I'm sure no double entendre was intended.

https://youtu.be/AnT0-MzrqM4
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2024, 10:13:18 AM
In - vin - ci - ble !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMZ20ZVZeE

PS: Yes, three guitarists. By now there are days where Glenn Tipton (on the right) cannot play guitar at all anymore due to his Parkinson's Disease, but he continues to write with the band (and record, they say, but I take that with a pinch of salt). So that is why there is producer Andy Sneap helping out on the left with Richie Faulkner (with a Flying V, looking like a hybrid between KK Downing, 70ies UFO Michael Schenker and a young Zakk Wylde). They are not pretending that Glenn can still join dual lead lines, he lost that ability long ago - bitter for the man who played the lion's share of Priest solos both live and in the studio in former times and was always a very proficient and accurate lead guitarist.

PPS: I think Ian Hill had cosmetic surgery. At this rate no one will be able to tell him apart from Geezer Butler in a few years ...  :mrgreen:

PPPS: Scott Travis (born 1961 in Norfolk, Virginia) epitomizes the nice, mild-mannered American oozing decency to me. Have him run for President, he could drum up support!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 08, 2024, 11:47:09 AM
https://1200line.bandcamp.com/track/fongnana-kouma
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on March 09, 2024, 10:31:48 AM
In - vin - ci - ble !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMZ20ZVZeE

Good stuff! They are masters of their craft. Scott Travis was such a great add to the band. They've been able to do much more technical stuff with him. Richie is great too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 09, 2024, 08:35:30 PM
Priest are one thing so many metal bands are not: elegant. That is the secret of their appeal to me.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 09, 2024, 11:17:51 PM
Lloyd Price was 80 in this clip from 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_A3Yhfd-hc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2024, 08:44:42 AM
Pipes still in good order, nice groove.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 10, 2024, 09:15:54 AM
Priest are one thing so many metal bands are not: elegant. That is the secret of their appeal to me.

I've seen you say this many times before about them.
And I still have no idea what you mean.  :mrgreen:
I've known Judas Priest since I was twelve. I really was into metal in those days. But I have never ever considered Judas Priest elegant.
A few of my friends were really big fans. And I tried to like them too, but it just never worked for me.
Guess I just don't get it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 10, 2024, 10:11:29 AM
:mrgreen: Yup, that worked fairly well 30+ years ago and Alan might have been interpreted as being a bit more complimentary. Or......?? I wonder what a bald, wild, creek living beaver looks like? Hmm, well maybe something like this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Naked_mole_rat.jpg)

Jesus! I know we are a bit pale and pasty in Scotland and all!

For the record, my wife was fully clothed!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2024, 10:23:17 AM
AC/DC aren't elegant, they're primal. Iron Maiden aren't elegant, they're cluttered and overblown. Saxon aren't elegant, they are endearingly simplistic.

Priest are elegant because their music is mean, lean and honed, sleek, metal-ish gleaming, streamlined as in good German engineering. There is no fluff or fat to their arrangements, yet they are not without sophistication. It's well-designed music in much the same way that BMW builds well-designed cars.

It's a quality that I also find and like in Deep Purple - it's no coincidence I love both bands. If you listen to Machine Head there is something functionally precise and naked to the music which appeals to me. If you listen to Led Zeppelin IV, the music is meandering and embalmed in this huge atmospheric production - I find that pretentious and irritatingly unfocused.

Judas Priest sounds like this to me:

(https://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Panther_A.jpg)


Iron Maiden like this:

(https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/64/2018/08/untitled-design-3.png)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 10, 2024, 12:22:29 PM
Priest are elegant because their music is mean, lean and honed, sleek, metal-ish gleaming, streamlined as in good German engineering. There is no fluff or fat to their arrangements, yet they are not without sophistication. It's well-designed music in much the same way that BMW builds well-designed cars.

I hear nothing of that in their music.
Again, I just don't get it.

The tank comparison is way over my head. I know nothing about tanks.
Sorry Uwe. I can understand the Deep Purple part of your musical preference. Just can't match Judas Priest with them.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2024, 01:52:37 PM
Maybe I'm just bad at explaining it?

The commonalities between DP and JP always seemed obvious to me, I fell for Priest at a time (1977) when Purple had split up and only Rainbow was carrying the banner (albeit less satisfyingly so, Rainbow never appealed to me as much as Purple, it had no swing). Then I listened to "Sin After Sin" (Roger Glover produced) and I immediately felt musically at home. And I wasn't the only one, in the German serious rock press JP were derided (in a pun on "Deep Purple in Rock") as "Deep Purple in Leather - but without Jon Lord ...". English magazines described them as "bad enough to make you long back for even Dee Purple".

The way Priest employ riffs and embed them in their music is very much the Purple/Blackmore recipe. When I hear songs like these, I don't hear Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath (though there is a Sabbath content in Priest's music as well), I hear Deep Purple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKuuHfMx3CQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXJtz1TgmIM

That chugging rhythm (you rarely have with Led Zep or Sabbath, Paranoid is an exception) is prevalent with Purple Mk II too (but generally too unfunky for you, I know  ;) ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWx7lSZw-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUtHC9L2CdI

Same with how Gillan sang over these tracks.
 
Am I projecting things? Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why at age 15 I saw Bon Scott-era AC/DC in 1976 opening for Rainbow and was aghast about how primitive their music was, yet about half a year later in bliss at hearing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Opvi_UHLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQyI-JTkRM

(The riff at 01:24 is pure Blackmore though at 03:24 Queen arrive; no worries, Ritchie reemerges at 04:41!  ;) )

And it had nothing to do with the image. At that point I had no idea how Judas Priest looked (and they hadn't in any case adopted their leather image yet)

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and had already seen AC/DC - they had looked much like their music, unelegant!  ;D

                                                                                        ********

Stumbled over this by accident, made me laugh out loud.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CPyDBcAo9LQ

Judas Priest was the first rock concert my son saw - he was 11 at the time and spent most of the gig on my shoulders to be fascinated with the group in the aftermath (it didn't last, he moved on to Korn, Whitesnake and Guns & Roses!). Years later, during a stay in Berlin, I invited my daughter to a Priest gig, she was then in her early 20ies. After the gig she said "That was enlightening from an anthropological viewpoint." And then "I can't believe how much of that stuff I knew listening to it wth you in the car when I was still a kid ...", only to then deadpan: "Parental abuse knows many forms!"  :rimshot:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 10, 2024, 10:01:32 PM
By sheer coincidence, this was posted yesterday in a roots music group I belong to. Uwe will appreciate it.

Appreciating Dave Edmunds (https://www.culturesonar.com/appreciating-dave-edmunds/)
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2024, 06:32:24 AM
But Dave,  I have nothing against the other Dave! You know how evenhanded and varied I am in my music tastes, not a roots Taliban at all. My elder brother had both the Sabre Dance single

https://youtu.be/GpqYU3Nzbts

and the I Hear You Knocking one from the other Dave, I grew up with this stuff!

And I’m a Nick Lowe fan in any case. So it’s all good, continue to build your Dave Edmunds altars of adulation!  :-*
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 11, 2024, 07:39:09 AM
Says the guy who has posted hundreds of DP and Priest videos.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2024, 07:58:24 AM
Yeah, but that's an affliction!  :mrgreen:

And be fair, you learned a lot from it! As I did and do from the stuff you post and posted. A significant part of my broadened musical tastes in the last 20 years or so go back to what you guys here and in the Dudepit like(d) and listen(ed) to.

But you haven't converted me to Led Zep yet.  :rimshot:

Yet while I'm writing this, I'm enjoying some pseudo country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UexKWayerNk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 11, 2024, 11:59:44 AM
I just have to say thanks to Uwe for the Dave Edmonds clip. I LOVE that piece, and his playing is incredible.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2024, 12:14:03 PM
I'm more the "live and let live"-guy!  :P
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 12, 2024, 06:36:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAxBEfKeOzw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 12, 2024, 08:08:09 AM
Nice to hear Brian sing with his normal voice instead of the evil witch on helium shriek that he's been using since 1980...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 12, 2024, 09:36:50 AM
Slash talks about Brian's voice for this recording here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLRtFyJ4Jlk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: slinkp on March 12, 2024, 11:55:35 AM
Nice to hear Brian sing with his normal voice instead of the evil witch on helium shriek that he's been using since 1980...  :mrgreen:

Mind blown. I had no idea he could sing any other way than "the AC/DC voice". He's really good at this style. I would never in a thousand years have guessed it was Brian Johnson.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2024, 12:42:46 PM
He's not a one-trick-pony, he's just being kept as one in an Aussie stable! AC/DC are to musical freedom what Soviet Gulags were to personal liberty.  :-X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqdGqduXvo&t=11s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCtHOICXtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuBf2mU0QM

In essence, Brian has a voice similar to Noddy Holder and Dan McCafferty, they can all do the high screaming, but it's not all they can do. Incidentally, all three were asked to join AC/DC after Bon's death, Noddy and Dan declined because they were loyal to their bands (though it was by then evident that AC/DC was on the way up, while Slade and Nazareth were on the way down). Brian didn't have a band at the time - Geordie had folded - and I don't believe that any of his descendants will ever regret his affirmative decision.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2024, 01:22:22 PM
Unsung West Coast heroes The Hollywood Stars with one of their songs most people know from Kiss' Destroyer ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkC060stHj0

Still waiting for a CD release of their 1977 album, power pop par excellence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5Z1aKue88

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2024, 01:33:54 PM
Steely Judas Jackson ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJSS6i5uHEg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 12, 2024, 02:20:03 PM
Slash really has enjoyed a long, comfortable tail on his career! How many albums of pointless covers and awkward collaborations has he done?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2024, 03:19:23 PM
I kinda liked this even if he's not the most proficient soloist in major keys ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ilbDwkooA

Good that he had a career with GnR, can't imagine too many job offers from The Allmans, The Outlaws, Marshall Tucker, Molly Hatchet, Charlie Daniels, Lynyrd Skynyrd or 38 Special, places where you have to know your scales.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 12, 2024, 06:16:42 PM
From that no man's land between Jazz and Rock'n'Roll ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhELpSeeipg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 13, 2024, 05:06:20 AM
Young Jerry Jeff

https://youtu.be/b04QIalO90I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 14, 2024, 10:53:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISOIxnTS1rI
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 18, 2024, 01:56:12 PM
Liam has found himself a new Noel ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoTJ4ngnQ88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQtZDTGM14
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 18, 2024, 08:19:49 PM
https://youtu.be/4Nzq3jyZHAU

33 years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df4d-ZXpPgg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 18, 2024, 09:38:31 PM
That poor acoustic bass in the second vid needs an action setup BADLY! There is enough room between fretboard and strings for the bassist to crawl under.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 18, 2024, 10:23:52 PM
That poor acoustic bass in the second vid needs an action setup BADLY! There is enough room between fretboard and strings for the bassist to crawl under.  ;D

It's a first edition Earthwood, low action is impossible. Brian's been playing it since it was new, he's obviously okay with it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 07:33:39 AM
I didn’t know that, the first Earthwoods were so appalling in action? I only played one once in a music store - great acoustic signal -, but that was new and had a fine set-up. Of course you can’t have an acoustic bass guitar’s action real low if you want to dig in, but his action seems extreme. I hate fret buzz anywhere on a bass so my preferred action is higher than what most people tend to have. Fret buzz even bothers me when I only feel, not hear it, because the amped signal overpowers everything. That Billy Sheehan-type constant fret buzz in the way his basses are set up would drive me mad. Let's not even talk of JAE.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 19, 2024, 08:51:03 AM
Been listening to Happiness Bastards by The Black Crowes.
Which I happen to like a lot  8)

https://open.spotify.com/album/2P9mQHy3lFG8OhPKqg3XeX?si=CGKBJZkCSqOnz2LwI42P6w

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 08:55:55 AM
I have it on order. I like the Black Crowes ok, but they are not my musical Nirvana, I guess I was never that much of a Rod Stewart & The Faces fan either. ;D

But I'm happy to see them around again.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 09:04:54 AM
An impressively sideburned Little Ian shuffling his beat with assorted ex-PAL compatriots and a keyboarder in white who once played on Bowie's Space Oddity, Cat Stevens' Morning Has Broken + Marc Bolan's Get It On as well as with The Strawbs. Was he really known for anything else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lseuE0dan6w
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 01:04:40 PM
Glenn tramples all inhibitions underfoot and merges the unthinkable, LZ + DP Mk III sound from the forthcoming fifth Black Country Communion album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfS37sqWCHM&t=207s

And a Trapez'ish unreleased BCC track (except on vinyl) that has been waiting in the vaults:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgXV2L8C4XU
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 02:19:59 PM
Très cüte ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZI247rVdvQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 19, 2024, 03:19:43 PM
Excellent white blues guitarists are a dime a dozen, but I somehow like Walter Trout, maybe the Rory Gallagher in him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKXxImxkJjE
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 19, 2024, 05:40:17 PM
I didn’t know that, the first Earthwoods were so appalling in action? I only played one once in a music store - great acoustic signal -, but that was new and had a fine set-up. Of course you can’t have an acoustic bass guitar’s action real low if you want to dig in, but his action seems extreme. I hate fret buzz anywhere on a bass so my preferred action is higher than what most people tend to have. Fret buzz even bothers me when I only feel, not hear it, because the amped signal overpowers everything. That Billy Sheehan-type constant fret buzz in the way his basses are set up would drive me mad. Let's not even talk of JAE.

None of the Earthwoods were known for low action, but the early ones had bracing design problems that caused top problems that made getting decent action harder. Also, the bridges on the early ones had a tendency to come off (no bridge pins). Sterling Ball has talked about this in the past on the MM forums.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 19, 2024, 05:42:39 PM
The Frogman is 87 today. Saw a video of him at the 2022 New Orleans Jazz Festival, he was in a wheelchair but still in excellent voice. He must be one of the last living of the old N.O. guys, if not the last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbfJ3t3CwBc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 20, 2024, 03:45:16 AM
My guitarist buddy was having a clear out of his CDs, looking to remove duplicate copies of albums. I've ended up with a 1995 issue of Who's Next. I'm guessing other copies I've owned or borrowed have been remasters, as this is quite a warm, soft-sounding version of the album. I quite like it, as it beds the slightly turgid Lifehouse songs in the middle into the overall soundscape of the album. On remastered versions, Baba O'Riley and Won't get Fooled surge out the speakers, while tracks like Going Mobile seemed a bit toothless. The obvious difference with this older edition of the album is that the drums seem to become a bit of an anonymous blur and clatter in the mix.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 20, 2024, 05:57:05 AM
A good remaster or even better stereo remix can make a world of a difference, just compare these two here, same source material:

25th Anniv. SOTW Remaster (1997):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k91ZYULpkRY

50th SOTW Dweezil Zappa Remix & Remaster (2024):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2FzZSBD5LE

Opinions on what you prefer may differ, but an aural difference is definitely there - on any equipment. The 1997 version is crisp as hell - in line with prevailing remastering tastes at the time. The 2024 one OTOH goes for organic warmth (and a more prominent Ric sound in all its glory, Roger must have bribed Dweezil!).
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 20, 2024, 03:26:06 PM
The 1997 version sounds like they chucked compression and smiley-face EQs on everything. The Dweezil version sounds more honest, somehow.

It reminds me of the handful of prog albums (mostly Gentle Giant) I own that Steve Wilson remixed and remastered. They are the old albums, but on a good day! Still plenty of dynamics and headroom, but instrument separation is better and the overall balance of the instruments is better.

The worst remix/remastering I've heard is the version of Obscured by Clouds slung into the Pink Floyd 'Early Years' box set. I like the original album as it is a bit of grace under pressure; recorded quickly as a soundtrack to a weird art house movie. It is somewhere between archaic space rock Floyd and a tough first draft of Dark Side. For the remix, David Gilmour added way to much of that slushy, modulated and compressed latter-day Floyd sound. Too glossy, too warm and bloated in the mids. They also did something ugly to the soundtrack to Live at Pompeii in the same box set. It is like they discovered Spatial Audio plugins like Izotope and set them all to 100%, matched with a brittle EQ that causes ear fatigue. All to try and 'rectify' something recorded on a mobile recording setup in 1971 using grimy European electricity, spliced cables, ground hums and crackles.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: wellREDman on March 21, 2024, 12:22:01 AM
Melody Cristea from Liliac getting to play with some of her heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCi0tUy38nc


Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 21, 2024, 06:13:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAnQFKhlOc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 09:25:42 AM
Dweezil explaining it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkeppS4UZOg&t=8s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 09:28:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAnQFKhlOc

Nick Lowe is always a joy to watch and that guitarist in the middle ist nicht von schlechten Eltern either.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 09:31:40 AM
Melody Cristea from Liliac getting to play with some of her heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCi0tUy38nc

Except that she is a little tall  :popcorn:, she has all his (sometimes frankly hilarious) mannerisms down pat.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 10:02:52 AM
The Prince of Darkness joins the war on drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Wwk6A0jFs
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 21, 2024, 11:12:41 AM
Melody Cristea from Liliac getting to play with some of her heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCi0tUy38nc

Everywhere they tour, sales of men's shaggy black wigs goes up 300%. Some dodgy barnets in that band!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 21, 2024, 11:43:09 AM
Melody Cristea from Liliac getting to play with some of her heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCi0tUy38nc

OMG that is so ugly on so many levels.
Horrible.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 01:12:04 PM
I was never the greatest Dio fan on Earth (save for the Elf stuff which I really liked), but I think she does a fine job. It's the mirror view of Dio attempting to sing like Carly Simon - I don't think he would have succeeded, he couldn't even do a proper hard rock falsetto à la Lou Gramm or Graham Bonnet which cost him the job with Rainbow because Ritchie wanted just that.

Dio was a great singer on his own turf, but extremely limited outside of that.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 21, 2024, 01:23:42 PM
No, they sound (and look) like a parody.
And she takes the least attractive aspects of RJD an then exaggerates them terribly.
Really doesn’t do him justice.
The old men with their dyed black hair (or wigs) and terrible wardrobe don’t sound very inspired. Batio’s guitar solo is hilariously lacking any pointe or tastefulness.
Really downright horrible.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 21, 2024, 03:15:10 PM
Batio’s career is hilariously lacking any pointe or tastefulness.

https://youtu.be/aGf5NxLQoEo?si=DKxa496J8AEUwz3o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 21, 2024, 03:46:29 PM
Haha, couldn’t agree more.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 05:21:53 PM
It is appalling how ambidextrous minorities are trodden on here. Where is BklynKen when you need him?!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2024, 05:27:24 PM
No, they sound (and look) like a parody.
And she takes the least attractive aspects of RJD an then exaggerates them terribly.
Really doesn’t do him justice.
The old men with their dyed black hair (or wigs) and terrible wardrobe don’t sound very inspired. Batio’s guitar solo is hilariously lacking any pointe or tastefulness.
Really downright horrible.

Himmel, it's a tribute, you sourpuss. By a 22 year old girl - with a bunch of old geezers, two of which have heard the original, smiling appreciatively.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 21, 2024, 09:38:14 PM
Sheesh, what a tough crowd. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: doombass on March 22, 2024, 12:20:56 AM
I think it was a nice enough job, except that Batio's speedy solo parts sounds totally out of context. It's more like the Super Mario Bros theme sped up x20.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 22, 2024, 12:25:39 AM
Himmel, it's a tribute, you sourpuss. By a 22 year old girl - with a bunch of old geezers, two of which have heard the original, smiling appreciatively.

Haha, really? Next thing we know you have bought all their CDs because you've read Ritchie likes them.  ;D
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2024, 07:00:03 AM
Actually no, I've always preferred Ozzabbath to Diobath (well-crafted as their music was). Why? I find Ozzabbath has a higher pop content! I'm serious!! Ozzy sang these simple, catchy, somewhat childlike lullaby melodies over Iommi's and Butler's doomsday riffage and Ward's always swinging accompaniment. Dio's vocal melodies are much less immediate to me (his work with Elf being the exception, but there pianist Mickey Lee Soule had a great influence in creating Dio's lines).

There isn't a Sabbath song with Ozzy you can't hum after hearing it once. Most of Dio's melodies are inhummable. Ozzy is a great Beatles fan, you hear that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfl1Oqe_DA

Dio, great singer he was, can pull off charming naivety only rarely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zABqvT9BP-Y

And here you hear Dio's Achilles Heel, his inability to sing a tough falsetto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zmq0_rJhyM

Blackmore called it disparagingly "his little girlie voice when he went high". While he fell in love with Dio's voice initially, he realized after three Rainbow studio albums that he was also very limited in what he could do.

So no, I have an appreciation of Ronnie, but I've never been a die-hard fan, I'm a Bonnet disciple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opewHESNVgE
Forgive them, Rob, for looking a bit like your countrymen Rob & Ferdi (Bolland)! ;D

And it is kinda telling that people giving impressions of Dio abound while I have never heard anyone pull off a credible Bonnet, all the Rainbow singers after him agree that his stuff is near impossible to sing.

I mean this is a live bootleg, no touching up, look at what he does during the chorus at 01:16!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGGKzCleQ0Q




Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 22, 2024, 07:19:52 AM
LOL
I meant (CDs of) the Batio Lilac cover crap
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2024, 07:57:40 AM
Yeah, I meant those too, my point being:

- I'm not that great a Dio fan in the first place,

- neither is Ritchie anymore, he wouldn't give me the recommendation you feared.  8)

I don't even have Dio's stuff complete, I found his solo output repetitive and Holy Diver (the album) much like Rainbow Rising overrated. My favorite solo album of his is actually the sophomore effort The Last In Line, it has better songwriting. Dio thought that his best album too.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 22, 2024, 08:27:41 AM
Yeah agreed. When I was 13, I thought Holy Diver was cool.
And I too prefer Last In Line.
Sacred Heart was already disappointing.

And when I saw them live on the Sacred Heart tour it was over for me. The infantile dragon that was supposed to be the impressive stage prop really put an end to the DIO era for me.
His lyrics made/make my toes curl in my shoes.

I do respect him as a vocalist. And I do not agree that he was a limited singer at all.
The criticism that Blackmore had about his falsetto can also be seen as a forte. He could sing with a lovely sweet and soft voice and seamlessly transform into the thundering roar that he also had under his belt. The quality of his voice was always excellent. Even towards the end of his career/life.
No, he couldn't shriek like Gillan or Bonnet. But is that really a standard to measure a good singer by?
Bonnet for example had/has zero dynamics. Everything he does is full out belting. A comparison with Gary Moore's guitar playing springs to mind if you can follow me there.






Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 22, 2024, 12:04:11 PM
It is appalling how ambidextrous minorities are trodden on here. Where is BklynKen when you need him?!

Being trodden on!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2024, 04:06:40 PM
You are a true glutton for punishment.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2024, 04:37:42 PM

No, he couldn't shriek like Gillan or Bonnet. But is that really a standard to measure a good singer by?
Bonnet for example had/has zero dynamics. Everything he does is full out belting. A comparison with Gary Moore's guitar playing springs to mind if you can follow me there.

You have a point, Bonnet's "belting it out" has become his trademark. It's not like he can't nuance when he is doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-x4f4El8I

but it is his default mode. I guess it is what he was primarily hired for too. But he's not a one-trick-pony and his voice sounds good in lower registers too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5H0an_GEV0

Does a  hard rock, heavy rock, AOR or metal singer need a capable falsetto? Good question. Your Phil Lynott as well as Dio, Phil Mogg, Ian Hunter, Paul Rodgers and David Coverdale (when he began emulating Plant's falsetto, he ruined his voice with it!) all didn't really, they were essentially baritones or a little higher. But it is hard to imagine Purple, Zep and Sabbath without Gillan, Percy and Ozzy hitting those highs. Or Journey, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Toto and Foreigner with true baritone singers. Judas Priest / AC/DC with Billy Idol (whose voice I really like) singing? Difficult. If you have a baritone singer you will have to carefully arrange the music around him for him to be heard (unless you mix him so loud, the music loses all impact) - he just can't place himself "on top" like a falsetto singer can. Perhaps that was one of the reasons why on many Lizzy songs there is not really a chugging rhythm guitar (much less two of them), but Robertson and Gorham play single note melodies in harmony, a succession of "little chords" so to say that gave Lynott's nice baritone the room it needed.

I'd say it makes life for your fellow heavy musicians easier if you have a "turbo" you can kick in when needed, but a baritone voice in heavy music is not undoable.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Alanko on March 23, 2024, 02:55:35 PM
Was Graham Bonnet called Graham Hood in America?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2024, 11:55:27 PM
Was Graham Bonnet called Graham Hood in America?

Were the 13th Floor Elevators called the 13th Floor Lifts in the UK?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on March 24, 2024, 03:23:10 AM
That would be 14th Floor Lifts then.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 24, 2024, 08:11:34 PM
Listening to bluegrass tonight.

Searching for the bluegrass Osborne Brothers on YT is frustrataing b/c a lot of the results are of a "modern country" due called Brothers Osborne. Not that I blame them, that's their last name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5Wpp6EWvE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLmSUue7iw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on March 25, 2024, 12:58:41 AM
Well I don't know.  Lennon Murphy got sued by Yoko Ono 15+ years ago for using her own name.  But the U.S Trademark Board dismissed the petition.  Kurt Loder promoted Murphy for a while on MTV.  As far as I know, her career never really took off.  A number of years ago, she did play a gig near here which I thought about going to.  If you get booked here, it's a given that either you're unknown or your career is already seriously in peril. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2NwQFV6_F8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 25, 2024, 08:23:07 AM
Listening to bluegrass tonight.

Searching for the bluegrass Osborne Brothers on YT is frustrataing b/c a lot of the results are of a "modern country" due called Brothers Osborne. Not that I blame them, that's their last name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5Wpp6EWvE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLmSUue7iw

Now which one is Ozzy?
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on March 25, 2024, 02:06:18 PM
I watched some Reaction videos on YouTube. Pretty interesting to see how females responded to the Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody and Sound and Inspiration - they all melted.  Those boys did it right; one rapper could not believe they were white!

The Moody Blues got great reactions too.

It was interesting to see rappers and younger people react to the Doors...and the difference between tunes like Light My Fire and darker stuff like L.A. Woman with the growled "Mr. Mojo Rising"...which was an angram from Jim Morrison's name.

Kinda fun. But it was good to see that the greats consistently come across as great.

I was tempted to start a channel with reactions of an old white guy to rap and hip hop. But nobody would be interested.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2024, 11:40:40 AM
Now which one is Ozzy?

The one with a u in his last name. Unlike Americans.  :mrgreen:

I watched some Reaction videos on YouTube. Pretty interesting to see how females responded to the Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody and Sound and Inspiration - they all melted.  Those boys did it right; one rapper could not believe they were white!

...


The Righteous Brothers could shake it up, too. This is a cover of the Don and Dewey original from the late 50s.

I remember my friend Gene playing this in his Muntz 4-track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLiBjGhmpZk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on March 26, 2024, 02:48:55 PM
I watched some Reaction videos on YouTube. Pretty interesting to see how females responded to the Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody and Sound and Inspiration - they all melted.  Those boys did it right; one rapper could not believe they were white!


No wonder, Deep Purple ballads always work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_1P43JT04
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: saltymonkey on March 26, 2024, 10:08:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PwoQb5GSw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: saltymonkey on March 27, 2024, 07:58:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63-uBdg5hcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur04ZIOjQrs

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on March 29, 2024, 07:03:44 PM
In the 2-3 years I've been in my band, this is the first time (in my tenure) we're doing a cover.  Simple but fun song to play.  Unfortunately our singer isn't nearly as cute as Lauren here.  James agrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6estdpJ-7y8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: saltymonkey on March 29, 2024, 09:13:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLLKPuuNu5M
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on March 29, 2024, 10:55:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Y9LnzCoLk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 01, 2024, 09:25:49 PM
It's one of the many unsolved mysteries of MSG why Schenker didn't make Derek St. Holmes his singer when he was in the band. On this track he showed that he could have taken MSG so much further in the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW96CwOh_74&t=108s
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 04, 2024, 09:27:52 AM
COSPLAYING CONTENT !!!

She done Dolly proud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUGkvjh5CYg
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 04, 2024, 09:40:10 PM
I can't really speak with great authority on the matter.  However, after being around many devoted and knowledgeable country music fans for years. I can say this.  I'm under the impression that they get greatly thrilled when someone outside the genre tries their hand at country music.  Or maybe not.  Most of the ones I've been around fall under the maybe not category.  In fact, some of them get hostile, to be honest.  I tend to not say much.  I don't have a horse in this race. 


https://www.ranker.com/list/times-pop-singers-tried-to-go-country-and-failed/sean-kelly
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 05, 2024, 06:08:56 AM
I can't really speak with great authority on the matter.  However, after being around many devoted and knowledgeable country music fans for years. I can say this.  I'm under the impression that they get greatly thrilled when someone outside the genre tries their hand at country music.  Or maybe not.  Most of the ones I've been around fall under the maybe not category.  In fact, some of them get hostile, to be honest.  I tend to not say much.  I don't have a horse in this race. 


https://www.ranker.com/list/times-pop-singers-tried-to-go-country-and-failed/sean-kelly

Maybe they should've tried Western music instead.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 05, 2024, 11:18:14 PM
Posted yesterday on the Jack Bruce channel. Really great performance IMHO.

https://youtu.be/qRgzuXbOG-I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 06, 2024, 04:06:30 AM
Leonid does it again.

Incredible band


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQCpWw9dNRk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 06, 2024, 07:08:25 PM
Merle Haggard April 6, 1937 - April 6, 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbEstJ98TcM
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on April 07, 2024, 11:37:09 AM
Great tune that Haggard makes really believable. Love that one.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Basvarken on April 08, 2024, 12:21:35 PM
Awesome performance of Humble Pie at the Midnight Special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJPVLywFd9I
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 02:58:08 PM
Not the Sheriff, but four talented guys from Nottingham ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OFubG0dPo
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 03:00:50 PM
Leonid does it again.

Incredible band


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQCpWw9dNRk

I'm partial to Kool & the Gang when it comes to late 70ies/early 80ies Black Disco, but this song was always kick-ass and they do that wonderful arrangement justice!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 03:02:34 PM
Posted yesterday on the Jack Bruce channel. Really great performance IMHO.

https://youtu.be/qRgzuXbOG-I
I didn't know he was THAT ACCOMPLISHED a pianist!  :o
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 03:08:32 PM
Merle Haggard April 6, 1937 - April 6, 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbEstJ98TcM

Was J. J. Cale a fan?  ??? Sounds like it.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 03:12:36 PM
Awesome performance of Humble Pie at the Midnight Special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJPVLywFd9I

Good version, this is even "arena rock-grittier" though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gWqrP30YXQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2024, 03:19:19 PM
Early BTO with their unmistakable CCRish groove, I really liked CF Turner's voice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr4DCUjyoLo

Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 11, 2024, 12:10:33 AM
I didn't know he was THAT ACCOMPLISHED a pianist!  :o

Neither did I.

Was J. J. Cale a fan?  ??? Sounds like it.

No idea. Intriguing thought, though.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: gearHed289 on April 11, 2024, 07:20:32 AM
Not the Sheriff, but four talented guys from Nottingham ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OFubG0dPo

Geez, takes me back to 4th grade. I didn't know these guys also did Billy, Don't Be a Hero. 70s gold...
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 15, 2024, 11:31:45 PM
Dave Edmunds turned 80 yesterday.

https://youtu.be/3830kIWgdZc
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 16, 2024, 12:46:17 AM
He beat George Jones at his own game on that song, IMO. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2024, 05:00:12 AM
Man, we haven't had a vid of him put up in a long time. A real life sign. Happy birthday!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: morrow on April 16, 2024, 05:13:13 PM
A local guy , great player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpDtoZ3sOos
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 17, 2024, 11:13:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNibWP8f5PQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Pilgrim on April 18, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNibWP8f5PQ

It's an audience pleaser and a sweet, simple bass line. One of my favorites to play.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 19, 2024, 09:16:30 AM
New from the Jack Bruce channel, from the ArtWorks Scotland documentary.

https://youtu.be/NW4riiu27EA
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: westen44 on April 19, 2024, 04:36:41 PM
Great video.  Also nice to have Pete Brown's comments. 
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: ajkula66 on April 19, 2024, 05:28:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGl9zberLsk
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 20, 2024, 02:18:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVi67FX_s1A
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 22, 2024, 07:02:53 AM
The Derailers covering Buck Owens.

https://youtu.be/tKKXJ5E9i-g
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 22, 2024, 04:26:25 PM
I must be getting young, I like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zqJs7JUCQ
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 23, 2024, 05:09:53 AM
https://youtu.be/K9j7HjrBRr8
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 23, 2024, 12:08:34 PM
That was lively.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2024, 08:11:49 AM
I you're a Beatles fan and not moved by this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhempeEjGUA

The intro track on her new album is cinemascopic (and even has rock harmonies) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3BSjJdyow

It's not all county-tinged either and she obviously likes bass guitar ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpXJR3YYius
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2024, 01:08:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGl9zberLsk

You need to be in the right mood, but this is nice.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2024, 01:15:42 PM
New from the Jack Bruce channel, from the ArtWorks Scotland documentary.

https://youtu.be/NW4riiu27EA

Nice too. Though I hate to say or write it, he really did play best on that Warwick Thumb in his later days, he was at his most expressive then. No wonder it was his go-to-instrument.

It still is one butt-ugly abomination of a bass.
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Ken on April 24, 2024, 01:17:55 PM
A different mood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK2AqZtTlPw
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2024, 01:22:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVi67FX_s1A

"Lay your coconut on my tiki"?  Dave!!!
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
It's pleasantly upbeat and tuneful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGbvctOg5l0
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: Dave W on April 25, 2024, 10:16:52 PM
Nice too. Though I hate to say or write it, he really did play best on that Warwick Thumb in his later days, he was at his most expressive then. No wonder it was his go-to-instrument.

It still is one butt-ugly abomination of a bass.


I don't think it's ugly, it's one of the better looking Warwicks. He did play great on it.

"Lay your coconut on my tiki"?  Dave!!!

You never heard that one before? It's from German Afternoons (1986), one of his best later albums
Title: Re: So, what have you been listening to lately?
Post by: uwe on April 26, 2024, 10:43:43 AM
Mötley seem to go back to their Corabi daze which were musically viable if commercially a failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bCAizfzcgI

That pterodactyl in the vid reminds me of a very poor joke ...  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fC-_m-3xd2U