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Title: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 09, 2018, 12:27:13 PM
(https://shop.warwick.de/de/Instrumente/E+-+Baesse/Warwick+Teambuilt/GPS+Idolmaker+Bass/sys/tools/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?&w=1200&h=620&far=1&bg=ffffff&src=../../../warwick%2Fdata%2FWarwick.de%2FWarwick%2FWGPS%2FIdolmaker_Bass_5%2FGPS1105_93PA_MAH_FR_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 09, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Warwick Machineheads with metal knobs
Nut    Warwick Just a Nut III Tedur
Halsholz    Wenge 3 pcs lamination
Griffbrettholz    Wenge fingerboard (fretted), Tigerstripe Ebony fingerboard (fretless)
Fluorescent Side Dots    lluminated Side-Dots
Griffbrett Radius    664 mm / 26"
Mensur    864 mm / 34"
Width Nut    45,0 mm / 1.8"
Width 12th fret    60,8 mm / 2.4"
Width 24h fret    69,11 mm / 2.7"
Bünde    20 Jumbo Nickelsilver frets (Width: 2.9 mm / Height: 1.3 mm)
IFT    IFT Invisibel Fretsystem
Korpusform    Carved
Korpusholz (Decke / Rückseite)    Mahogany
Tonabnehmer    passive MEC Vintage Humbuker
Elektronik    active Warwick 2 way electronic
Potentiometer    Volume P/P / Balance / Bass / Treble
Schalter    2 Mini switches
Schalterfunktion    separate configuration of the humbuckers (series / parallel / single coil)
Brückensystem    2-piece solid Brass Warwick Bridge
Gurthalter    Warwick Security locks
Konstruktion    Bolt on
Farbauswahl Linkshänder    Nirvana Black Transparent High Polish, Nirvana Black Transparent Satin and Burgundy Blackburst Transparent High Polish Only !
Hardware Farbe    Chrome hardware
Saiten    Warwick Black-strings 045" - 135" (38301 M 5B 045/135")
Gewicht    4,7 kg
Zubehör    Warwick User Kit bag including hex key tools and Cleaning cloth (RB PROD WGPS TOOL CO)
Koffer    Starline RockBag® (RB 20505 STARLINE)
Zertifikat    Individually issued certificate of authenticity
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 09, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
Picture isn't showing for me, just error text.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Rob on January 09, 2018, 05:27:10 PM
Picture isn't showing for me, just error text.
Same here
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Basvarken on January 10, 2018, 05:47:31 AM
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26219247_1730796823657793_2357460028063369784_n.jpg?oh=7c14d4f97c72a0a34647ee30b49021fa&oe=5AFF1D80)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 10, 2018, 06:31:06 AM
Thanks Rob!

More pics here:

http://www.debassist.nl/nieuws/artikel/3-19999/nammnieuws

I complimented Mr. Wilfer of Warwick with the bass. He asked me where I found it and I told him. Knowing him he shut down the link, haha!
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 10, 2018, 07:45:06 AM
Well, it's different, all right. Not sure that I like it. I give Warwick credit for trying different designs.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2018, 08:50:56 AM
I like the fluid styling myself.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on January 10, 2018, 09:23:20 AM
It looks like an EB-2 melt-morphing into a Thunderbird.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Pilgrim on January 10, 2018, 10:41:02 AM
I'd play that. It has a graceful look to it, and I actually like the look better than the normal Warwicks.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 10, 2018, 11:31:59 AM
It looks like they're trying to tempt Nikki Sixx away from Schecter with that one. He can have it.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 10, 2018, 01:39:04 PM
The guitar versions have different colours in raised part and lower part and they are very strangely put together. Almost like a jigsaw. That isn't quite clear at this pic.

But look at these guitars:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/5a/3c/bd5a3cdb6f8678b283ba39240694fb76.jpg)

(http://www.warwick.de/warwick/data/Warwick.de/Framus/CS/Idolmaker%205%20R/329/CO_0686SXP813CPASH46Z_01_N.jpg)

(http://www.warwick.de/warwick/data/Warwick.de/Framus/Germany/Idolmaker/168683T314CPMFTM2Z_01.jpg)

(https://img.audiofanzine.com/images/u/product/normal/framus-idolmaker-5-r-249155.jpg)

(http://www.warwick.de/warwick/data/Warwick.de/Framus/Germany/Idolmaker/168683H814CPMFTM2Z_02_15.jpg)

(http://www.warwickbass.com/warwick/data/Warwick.de/Framus/Germany-Signature/Stevie%20Sallas%20Signature/2015/168683XX14GPMQS42Z_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Basvarken on January 10, 2018, 03:13:27 PM
I think they're beautiful. Those guitars I mean.
But the bass guitars always have the "scared hare ears". And ugly headstock shape.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: amptech on January 10, 2018, 11:08:13 PM
I liked the error pic. better!
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: doombass on January 11, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
I've almost fallen in love with those guitars! The bass....nah....to me there's something about the controls, pickups and hardware on the body (both proportions and placement) that ruins the esthetics of the body lines.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 12, 2018, 03:48:25 AM
I agree with the most of you that the guitar looks better. But I want to see the 4-string. 5-strings just look too bulky.

Strange: With most 'strange' models like the Tbird, the Gretsch Billy Bo and some more I like the bass version better. A longer neck looks better with those body shapes.

Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Basvarken on January 12, 2018, 04:35:39 AM
I'd like to see the bass version of the Fender Meteora that Dave posted the other day. I bet that it would look awesome.

Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 12, 2018, 08:39:46 AM
Exactly my thoughts... ...although Fender will ruin it with a PJ ;)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 12, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
Exactly my thoughts... ...although Fender will ruin it with a PJ ;)

But of course!
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 13, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
I will post them soon, but I just saw a 4-string idolmaker. Much better!
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 14, 2018, 07:57:23 AM
(https://myalbum.com/photo/e9If8rrlaGCP/360.jpg)

I don't like the colour combination with gold hardware, but I do like the shape.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 14, 2018, 10:13:41 AM
That doesn't look like it will balance well.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Granny Gremlin on January 14, 2018, 11:29:51 AM
It looks like an EB-2 melt-morphing into a Thunderbird.

Yep.

But not that original - a lot of boutique Thunder/Firebird copies do that exact same thing with the raised portions of the body (while retaining a generally more T/Fbird shape). 
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Rob on January 14, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
Yep.

But not that original - a lot of boutique Thunder/Firebird copies do that exact same thing with the raised portions of the body (while retaining a generally more T/Fbird shape).
I agree with Jake.
I do like the lines but subjective review of the color combos would be critical.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2018, 03:53:35 PM
I liked the error pic. better!

 :rimshot: :rimshot:

I reminds me of that one Swiss-Italian guitar boutique I can't think of the name right now - sort of the Ritter of guitars, they have "molten shapes" like that quite often.

Yes, Warwick is intrepid in trying new things, but at the same time their stylings vary so greatly (and they are also intrepid in swiping other people's ideas) it is sometimes hard to identify a Warwick look if it weren't for that tell-tale-harestock where I fully second Rob's esthetic concerns. In a way, Warwick are like Ibanez in that respect.

"Idolmaker" sounds like something Dean would come up with.  :rolleyes:

PS: I remembered the name! Pagelli!!! (He and his wife also design for other brands.)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u8o7-1PoF1I/UbtAg45E60I/AAAAAAAAG6g/aWYZVrASDhw/s1600/Pagelli+Redwood+Special+Guitarz+by+Bertram.jpg)

(https://www.guitar-list.com/sites/default/files/styles/model_display/public/gearpics/Cort-PAG-II_0.png?itok=uO7X7RuY)

(https://i2.wp.com/www.modernmojoguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/pagelli-siba.jpg?fit=700%2C700)

And the "Who framed Roger Rabbit?"-bass:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/guitars/Pagellisplashbass.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2018, 06:10:13 PM

"Idolmaker" sounds like something Dean would come up with.  :rolleyes:


Good observation! My sources tell me that Warwick will have its own version of the Dean Girls. Here's a sneak preview.

(https://i.imgur.com/ckb07Z0.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2018, 06:22:17 AM
They are a thrifty company - more likely it will end up with Chris P in drag or something.  :-\
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on January 30, 2018, 09:26:46 AM
They are a thrifty company - more likely it will end up with Chris P in drag or something.  :-\

You never know.... :D I just applied for the Bund Deutscher Mädel.

Of course I do some jobs for Warwick as a company, helping out at the Bass Camp. That means I met the most famous players, which is nice for my magazine. The bass camp teachers are also non-Warwick players. This means I got guys and gals like Ellefson, Trujillo, Bobby Vega, Lee Sklar, Billy Sheehan, Rhonda Smith, Nik West, Yolanda Charles, Gary Willis, Victor Wooten, Abe Laboriel Sr, Guy Pratt, Chuck Rainey, Neil Murray, Juan Alderete, Felix Pastorius and Scott Reeder (just to name a few, and also guitar players like Phil X and Devin Townsend) all on speed dial. Very grateful for that. I do not like all Warwick basses, but I do like some!

Having said that: I know Rob hates the drooping rabbit ears tuners, but IMHO it's one of the most recognizable headstock on stages, alog with Rickenbacker, maybe Höfner, G&L.  You would say Fender and Gibson too, but anything with a Fender headstock could be anything....
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: gearHed289 on January 30, 2018, 10:28:08 AM
File this under "WHY?"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warwick-Streamer-1994-6-String-Electric-Bass-Modified/253395967276?hash=item3aff939d2c:g:WlYAAOSw6lRab4PX (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warwick-Streamer-1994-6-String-Electric-Bass-Modified/253395967276?hash=item3aff939d2c:g:WlYAAOSw6lRab4PX)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Yu4AAOSwi4lab4Q0/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2018, 10:37:07 AM
...

Having said that: I know Rob hates the drooping rabbit ears tuners, but IMHO it's one of the most recognizable headstock on stages, alog with Rickenbacker, maybe Höfner, G&L.  You would say Fender and Gibson too, but anything with a Fender headstock could be anything....

True. Easy to tell a Warwick apart from other "woody" basses.

File this under "WHY?"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warwick-Streamer-1994-6-String-Electric-Bass-Modified/253395967276?hash=item3aff939d2c:g:WlYAAOSw6lRab4PX (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warwick-Streamer-1994-6-String-Electric-Bass-Modified/253395967276?hash=item3aff939d2c:g:WlYAAOSw6lRab4PX)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Yu4AAOSwi4lab4Q0/s-l1600.jpg)

Ugh! The original horn may have been too phallic for the owner, but why ruin the functionality? Now it's ugly and unbalanced.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2018, 01:08:31 PM
I'm not going to denigrate German product here - at least they don't diesel gas primates.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Pilgrim on January 30, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
Yet another good band name:  "Diesel Gas Primates".  :P
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: uwe on January 31, 2018, 06:48:09 AM
(http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no7/images/chimps.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2018, 09:48:48 AM
(http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no7/images/chimps.jpg)
:toast:
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 25, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
I'm not going to denigrate German product here - at least they don't diesel gas primates.

Ok, so you'll poo poo Hofner and Volkswagon til the cows come hoime but you draw the line at Warwick?  Total sense-making bud.
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Rob on March 26, 2018, 05:50:05 PM
Ok, so you'll poo poo Hofner and Volkswagon til the cows come hoime but you draw the line at Warwick?  Total sense-making bud.
:rimshot:
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Sven on March 29, 2018, 09:43:22 AM
The shape of the body kinda reminds my of my homemade guitar. Someone at Warwick must have been watching the Dutch bass & guitar forums...

(https://image.ibb.co/m509en/P1000334.jpg)

(https://image.ibb.co/kmpkKn/zgg.jpg)
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: Chris P. on March 30, 2018, 02:26:31 AM
The shape is not new. Firebird-ish. But the way it's 3D is great!
Title: Re: Warwick Idolmaker
Post by: BTL on March 30, 2018, 09:27:24 AM
I like it, but it's basically a flipped and tweaked Jaguar.