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Title: Job Opportunity
Post by: Dave W on January 01, 2018, 03:25:50 PM
Which one of you will step up and apply?

Vice President, Fender Electric Guitars and Basses  (https://boards.greenhouse.io/fender/jobs/927005?gh_src=h7r6kq1#.Wkp7f1FtTct)
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Rob on January 01, 2018, 03:50:43 PM
At least Larry mentions iconic basses.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 02, 2018, 02:52:30 AM
I think Uwe would be perfect for that job. 
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Chris P. on January 02, 2018, 03:08:40 AM
So we will talk about pre-Hornüng Fenders in near future?


'I play a Fender P.'
'A pre-Hornüng with chrome hardware or a new one with black hardware and a three point bridge?'
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Basvarken on January 02, 2018, 03:37:16 AM
Henry J should jump to the occasion.
And then Uwe H can fill in the vacant spot at Gibson

A win-win situation (for Gibson fans)
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: doombass on January 02, 2018, 08:33:08 AM
At least Larry mentions iconic basses.

Furthermore (unlike Gibson), there's no mention of luxury- nor lifestyle products. On the contrary they actually support the idea of a leadership that actually plays music:

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FMIC offers a competitive benefits package which includes medical, dental, 401(k), paid time off, and an equipment purchase program to help you get the band back together.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 02, 2018, 09:36:22 AM
Furthermore (unlike Gibson), there's no mention of luxury- nor lifestyle products. On the contrary they actually support the idea of a leadership that actually plays music:

But if you go to the lifestyle products section of Musician's Friend, you'll find Fender products outnumber Gibson quite a lot.  I got the bright idea of buying a gift for a friend last year who likes Gibson but dislikes Fender.  I thought I would easily find something there.  I was wrong.  I guess Gibson may lean more toward luxury items, though, like watches that cost thousands of dollars, etc.   
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Pilgrim on January 02, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
So we will talk about pre-Hornüng Fenders in near future?


'I play a Fender P.'
'A pre-Hornüng with chrome hardware or a new one with black hardware and a three point bridge?'


I have dreams of a PanzerCaster!!  8)
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Dave W on January 02, 2018, 11:14:51 AM
But if you go to the lifestyle products section of Musician's Friend, you'll find Fender products outnumber Gibson quite a lot.  I got the bright idea of buying a gift for a friend last year who likes Gibson but dislikes Fender.  I thought I would easily find something there.  I was wrong.  I guess Gibson may lean more toward luxury items, though, like watches that cost thousands of dollars, etc.

Like these reasonably priced items?  :mrgreen:

(https://i.imgur.com/PGoii9L.jpg)
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Dave W on January 02, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
But seriously, If I had that position, I would go directly after Gibson. Make close copies a la Heritage. Go for the jugular. I'd also leave any "relics" to the Custom Shop instead of producing MIM "road worns" with the exact same unrealistic looking artificial wear patterns, and I'd get rid of the crossbreeds like the Jagcaster. And I wouldn't introduce any new designs (e.g. the Dimension bass) b/c they never sell well.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: doombass on January 02, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
Yes, Fender -like most bigname manufacturers- do offer a lot of t-shirts, coffee mugs etc. My point was more leaning towards the fact that Fender seems to have lifestyle products more off focus in the corporate room than Gibson have. In a "Build good instruments first and the gadgets will sell themselves" -sort of way, whereas Gibson keeps on putting out new guitar models with features which 95% of the customers are'nt interested in.

I remember a couple of years ago when Gibson seeked out for six new product developers and this is what was mentioned in the qualification part: " Minimum of 5 years of successful product management experience, preferably aligned to retail luxury/lifestyle products". Not anyhere was there a word about anything related  to development of musical instruments, only "products".
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: TBird1958 on January 02, 2018, 12:39:44 PM
Like these reasonably priced items?  :mrgreen:

(https://i.imgur.com/PGoii9L.jpg)


 Aren't those the "Road Worn" condoms?   
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 03, 2018, 12:41:59 AM
Like these reasonably priced items?  :mrgreen:

(https://i.imgur.com/PGoii9L.jpg)

That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 03, 2018, 12:46:07 AM
Yes, Fender -like most bigname manufacturers- do offer a lot of t-shirts, coffee mugs etc. My point was more leaning towards the fact that Fender seems to have lifestyle products more off focus in the corporate room than Gibson have. In a "Build good instruments first and the gadgets will sell themselves" -sort of way, whereas Gibson keeps on putting out new guitar models with features which 95% of the customers are'nt interested in.

I remember a couple of years ago when Gibson seeked out for six new product developers and this is what was mentioned in the qualification part: " Minimum of 5 years of successful product management experience, preferably aligned to retail luxury/lifestyle products". Not anyhere was there a word about anything related  to development of musical instruments, only "products".

Yes, that's true. My point, though, is that if you're planning on buying a nice gift for someone who liked Gibson and you're even prepared to pay a lot if necessary, it can get pretty frustrating to go to a site like MF and find that the lifestyle products are overwhelmingly Fender. 
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Dave W on January 03, 2018, 07:46:59 AM

 Aren't those the "Road Worn" condoms?

Of course! Surely you don't expect to get a Custom Shop condom at these low low prices.  :mrgreen:

Hopefully the wear won't go all the way down to the, errr, bare wood.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Highlander on January 03, 2018, 08:19:36 AM
It's pretty obvious Henry wants it known that they just want to completely (rhymes with duck) things up... :vader:
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Pilgrim on January 03, 2018, 09:34:56 AM
Yes, that's true. My point, though, is that if you're planning on buying a nice gift for someone who liked Gibson and you're even prepared to pay a lot if necessary, it can get pretty frustrating to go to a site like MF and find that the lifestyle products are overwhelmingly Fender.

....which is one reason that Fender has hung on as well as it has. I think that company has a better grasp of its marketplace and positioning.

Gibson has traditionally been a high end instrument company with an image to match. That's not a bad thing in today's market where people will pay for perceived value, but I'm surprised they don't do more merchandising around it.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: Rob on January 03, 2018, 10:38:51 AM
....which is one reason that Fender has hung on as well as it has. I think that company has a better grasp of its marketplace and positioning.

Gibson has traditionally been a high end instrument company with an image to match. That's not a bad thing in today's market where people will pay for perceived value, but I'm surprised they don't do more merchandising around it.
In the real heyday of each of these companies there were a lot more people buying guitars and a lot less quality options too.
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 03, 2018, 07:37:22 PM
....which is one reason that Fender has hung on as well as it has. I think that company has a better grasp of its marketplace and positioning.

Gibson has traditionally been a high end instrument company with an image to match. That's not a bad thing in today's market where people will pay for perceived value, but I'm surprised they don't do more merchandising around it.

Fender has done well.  But its ubiquity can also be a little too much at times.  Like where I live there used to be about six music stores.  After 2008 they all began to gradually close.  I'm sure that was due to a number of factors.  Now there is only one left.  It's downtown and only sells Fender and Squier.  I used to be able to go to music stores and try out any brand of bass I wanted.  Plus, I was constantly meeting people like an old drummer from way back and other interesting people, too. 
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2018, 06:35:17 PM
I think Uwe would be perfect for that job.

I would turn it into a Gibson Protektorat perhaps?

Naw, I'd finally introduce a long scale, three-single-coils Stratobasster- a Ritchie Blackmore Signature Model with scalloped neck in the upper registers à la Billy Sheehan's Attitude and whammy bar!!! With regenerating neck growth for obvious reasons.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8b/a4/60/8ba4600a33e3305713425bc37f16dd2c.jpg)
Title: Re: Job Opportunity
Post by: westen44 on January 30, 2018, 07:11:51 AM
^
LMAO!!