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Title: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: lowend1 on November 28, 2017, 08:49:06 AM
https://www.amp-global.com/product/1961-ritchie-blackmore-three-musketeers-deep-purple-gibson-es-335-sn-26457/
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Pilgrim on November 28, 2017, 11:50:12 AM
My, look at the decimal points on that one!!  8)
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Dave W on November 28, 2017, 12:48:22 PM
I wonder if they'll throw in free shipping?
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Alanko on November 29, 2017, 06:37:19 AM
I like the photo of the pair of Ernies outside the RRHOF. I wonder if they tried to hawk it in there, the RRHOF wasn't interested, so they snapped a quick picture outside.

Errrr... Plan B?

(https://www.amp-global.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/008.jpg)

Not a lot of verification going on, and the price is absurd. I thought Ritchie had Stratocaster knobs on this guitar in 1970, so somebody has put period knobs on there. The photos are amateurish, and for that sort of money I want to see pot codes, pulled pickups and their cavities, a clear head-on shot of the back of the headstock.... Ritchie was rough on his gear, and if this ES-355 didn't suffer a broken headstock then I will be very surprised.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: doombass on November 30, 2017, 01:54:57 AM
Here's some info (true or not?) on the knobs and previous sales of this guitar:

https://meandguitar.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/hush-money/ (https://meandguitar.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/hush-money/)
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: doombass on November 30, 2017, 02:05:38 AM
And yes, the price is absurd. It has gone up about x100 in 12 years:

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/deep-purpleritchie-blackmore-4348068-details.aspx (http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/deep-purpleritchie-blackmore-4348068-details.aspx)
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Pilgrim on November 30, 2017, 09:16:36 AM
Cool to see that the 335 was used in my two favorite DP tunes, "Hush" and "Hard Road".  I spun them on 45 any number of times during my radio DJ days.

If I were a baseball player, the intro to Hard Road would be my walk-up music.  I've always thought it was the best walk-up tune you could find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc80veSeXVY
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Alanko on December 01, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
I've just spotted the red jumper wire grounding the Bigsby to the switch! Sure enough Ritchie's appears to have a wire in the same place, taped over.

(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/ritchie-blackmore-of-deep-purple-performs-on-stage-at-club-6-on-7th-picture-id96257977?k=6&m=96257977&s=612x612&w=0&h=ZZtqyWv9Vd4jVKeBNXxVzYtyT1q_MDY-lDh2HgiJqWo=)

I also found this image:

(https://www.rockhall.com/sites/default/files/styles/header_image_1800_w/public/2016_deep_purple_guitar.jpg)

That looks a bit more roadworn, and the wire is very clear!

The $2 million axe:

(https://www.amp-global.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/060-400x400.jpg)

There appears to be the same bare spot to the left of the neck pickup in all three photos.

Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2017, 09:22:46 PM
Good eye! With that proof, now Uwe will have to buy it.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Highlander on December 02, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
He's often inferred he'd be willing to father his children... :vader:
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 05, 2017, 04:39:32 PM
wasn't it bear his children... like I can't picture it working out with Uwe as the top, sorry.   :o
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: lowend1 on December 06, 2017, 05:46:46 AM
Good eye! With that proof, now Uwe will have to buy it.

He's been conspicuously quiet - perhaps he's been pulling some OT hours to finance a purchase...
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Highlander on December 06, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
wasn't it bear his children... like I can't picture it working out with Uwe as the top, sorry.   :o

Oops... my bad... :o
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Dave W on December 08, 2017, 10:43:24 AM
Uwe is incredibly busy with year-end work, plus he's just moved (home, not office). He says hello and he'll be back soon.

Somehow I think this one will still be available by the time he sees it.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Highlander on December 08, 2017, 01:43:16 PM
I'm sure we can keep it in the frame... :vader:
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2017, 01:51:32 PM
That's his beloved ES-335 alright, he played nothing else in the 60ies, it's what you hear here (the solo fills throughout and the solo at 1:30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAlS_Q8p2Cc

or here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jzMIZTz7m4

or here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yCZdh2KRJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGnqXT-C59c

Unlike the Strats he punished, he loved that guitar dearly and took good care of it (in a Blackmore way: i.e. he didn't smash it on purpose  :mrgreen: ) until he converted - reluctantly at first - to Fender. It's a piece of history and to a Blackmore devotee (which I'm not!) possibly worth the money (though Blackmore himself would laugh about that type of price tag, to him guitars are tools though the ES 335 is the one he was emotionally attached to the most and for the longest time, it was his first name instrument). But even if I had 2 million Dollars to waste, to my ears Blackmore did not come into his own as a guitarist until - enter Jimi Hendrix - he had changed over to that classic Strat sound.

And he sure did wring that little guitar's neck ... If he hadn't retired it around 70/71, I doubt it would have put up with his rigours much longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pgZIFtKUzw
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 12, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
The ES-335 sounds way better than the strat in my opinion. Wish he never switched to Fender. I don't see why he would have had to. He sure could squeeze plenty of treble out that Gibson. The guitar tone just jumps right at you. Reminds me of Freddy King's sound from this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lb3F0MzEDw
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: gearHed289 on December 13, 2017, 08:58:19 AM
The ES-335 sounds way better than the strat in my opinion. Wish he never switched to Fender. I don't see why he would have had to. He sure could squeeze plenty of treble out that Gibson. The guitar tone just jumps right at you. Reminds me of Freddy King's sound from this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lb3F0MzEDw

Strats are my favorite, but I've gotta agree with you. 335 sounds great in the Wring That Neck vid.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
I found that ES-335 sound compressed and - how shall I put this? - "unmajestic", "Blackmore Sound" to me is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qp_NLg1SFI

Try doing what he does at 3:48 with an ES-335!

Maybe it's my imagination, but I can actually hear the higher string tension, extra rebound and twang of the Strat and I like that better.

Or here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADCOHQPkar0

and here the solo at 2:19 to 3:09, that is classic Blackmore sound to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSF_V6q9Kgs

Of course I'm totally partial because I was reared on that Strat sound in the 70ies ... Blackmore, Gallagher, Gilmour, Clapton, Hendrix ... there was a time when I believed that playing a Strat made you automatically a lead guitarist.  :mrgreen: In fact I thought Alvin Lee outlandish because he obviously fitted the bracket "lead guitarist", yet did not play a Strat.

Strictly a matter of taste. I'm not saying that an ES-335 is not a decent guitar, but there must have been something revelatory to  Blackmore when playing his first (hand-me-down from Clapton in fact) Strat with even a warped neck to give up on his beloved ES-335. Maybe he thought it was the more perfect "weapon of choice" against Jon Lord's avalanche of a Hammond sound which he has honing around the same time, doing away with Leslies and keyboard amps and playing his C-3 through 200 watt Marshall guitar amps in an effort to turn it into something between an organ and a second guitar, "the gorgan" as he nick-named it.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: 4stringer77 on December 16, 2017, 07:19:28 AM
I found that ES-335 sound compressed and - how shall I put this? - "unmajestic", "Blackmore Sound" to me is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qp_NLg1SFI

Try doing what he does at 3:48 with an ES-335!

Close enough.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lmiHh8TmyU
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: lowend1 on December 16, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
In fact I thought Alvin Lee outlandish because he obviously fitted the bracket "lead guitarist", yet did not play a Strat.

-but there was a Strat pickup stuffed into that 335...
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Dave W on December 16, 2017, 09:42:26 PM
-but there was a Strat pickup stuffed into that 335...

When Gibson's CS recreated it (2003-05 or thereabouts) they couldn't bring themselves to call it a Strat pickup. It was just called a Seymour Duncan single coil.
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: uwe on December 18, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
Close enough.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lmiHh8TmyU

Danke, that does prove my point even if he could play it well!  :rimshot:
Title: Re: A new itch for Uwe to scratch...
Post by: Barklessdog on January 19, 2018, 05:01:32 AM
I was in a band with a guy that played one and he got some great biting guitar sound from his that sounded amazing. Not the sounds you would think it makes, like Larry Carlton, Lee Ritenourer jazz stuff.