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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Granny Gremlin on November 17, 2017, 08:50:49 AM

Title: Old Gretsch
Post by: Granny Gremlin on November 17, 2017, 08:50:49 AM
For some reason we get a lot of these (and similar modles) locally (usually at 12th Fret, but this is a private sale).  Looks nice and reasonably well kept.  Price seems not too bad either (CAD2.1K - which is about US$1.6k); but still out of my range.  Nice to look at tho.

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/gretsch-full-guitar-jpg.139577/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/g-front-head-jpg.139585/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/g-front-body-jpg.139593/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/gretsch-back-jpg.139609/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/g-back-head-jpg.139601/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/bag1-full-1-jpg.139625/)

(https://www.guitarscanada.com/index.php?attachments/g-pickup-jpg.139617/)

Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Pilgrim on November 17, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
Man, I really like that. To me, these basses look like a bass OUGHT to look.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Granny Gremlin on November 17, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
Agreed - I just don't like the big ass rear cover, but it's just the back.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: ilan on November 17, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
That's model 6070, mine is similar, a '64. Great sound but huge neck, and the fretboard is flat like a classical guitar - no radius.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Dave W on November 17, 2017, 05:53:01 PM
That's a pretty good price in today's market.

The single cutaway 6073 usually brings the highest price due to the Peter Tork/Monkees connection.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: ilan on November 18, 2017, 03:44:57 AM
The single cutaway 6073 usually brings the highest price due to the Peter Tork/Monkees connection.
That, and its short scale which makes it actually playable. The long-scale 6070/6072 with their bridge about mid-body places the nut very far away and feels awkward, almost like it's 40" scale. And of course they are ridiculously neck-heavy. I'd say that with its huge neck, flat fretboard, and crazy neck-dive, the 6070 is the least comfortable bass ever made. But it also is one of the most attractive basses.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Granny Gremlin on November 18, 2017, 07:49:07 AM
Interesting.  The seller  does say it is a 6070 -  I forgot to mention that earlier.  The price did seem pretty good though (still out of reach for me - especially given what Ilian is saying about playability). That's probably mostly due to the neck heel binding cap missing.

Love the finish tho - is that wear on the neck or the original burst?
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: ilan on November 18, 2017, 08:14:33 AM
Interesting.  The seller  does say it is a 6070 -  I forgot to mention that earlier.  The price did seem pretty good though (still out of reach for me - especially given what Ilian is saying about playability). That's probably mostly due to the neck heel binding cap missing.

Love the finish tho - is that wear on the neck or the original burst?
It's the burst. And the heel cap on mine also deteriorated.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Alanko on November 18, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
Bernard Paganotti plays a bass like that, which I think he's owned since the '60s. There must be something to them, as he also played custom Jacobacci basses, and presumably could get basses built to any spec he wanted.

Do these basses have end pins? Gretsch made a bass like that and I've seen it called a 'cello' bass in literature.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: ilan on November 19, 2017, 06:46:19 AM
It has an end button but when I bought the bass the spike was long gone.

Even Entwistle had a 6070 at one point.

(http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/images/drums/65_aaa.jpg)

This is the catalog pic. And an old pic (16 years ago) of myself with the 6070. I have always liked double-cut Gretsches because they look like George Harrison's guitar on the Ed Sullivan Show, I thought it was the best looking guitar I've ever seen. And then I learned there was a bass version so I had to have one.

(http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/graphics/6070.jpg)(http://archives.rickresource.com/oldattachments/114515.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Pilgrim on November 19, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Seeing you holding that Gretsch really helps give an idea of its size and neck placement.  Looks like a real handful!
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
The one I played was short scale (6071?). It looked the same as Ilan's, had an enormous neck, and it seemed like the bridge was halfway between the end of the neck and the end of the body.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: amptech on November 19, 2017, 11:29:13 PM
I have a '63. Huge log of a neck, but sounds equally huge!
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: Granny Gremlin on November 20, 2017, 07:12:00 AM
I thought the tuners were just small, but that's a massive headstock.
Title: Re: Old Gretsch
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2017, 05:39:57 AM
(http://archives.rickresource.com/oldattachments/114515.jpg)

Oh my, it looks like a Merkava tank on you

(http://www.defencenews.in/images_articles/6_img111216100342.jpg)

and you're a tall guy!