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Title: Tom Petty
Post by: patman on October 02, 2017, 01:47:58 PM
CBS News site is reporting Tom Petty is gone. Heart Attack.
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Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
Shocking.
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Post by: Basvarken on October 02, 2017, 02:08:06 PM
66. That is way too soon.
So sad.
Thank you Tom for all the great music.
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Post by: doombass on October 02, 2017, 02:12:13 PM
Really sad news.
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Post by: uwe on October 02, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
Darn, I just heard about it. A great songwriter and bandleader. 1977, German Rockpalast on TV, was the first time I ever heard of him and The Heartbreakers and was immediately mesmerized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_WVkICzrU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OGlFjnr8Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4vgIgtOn0s

At that point in my life, I really preferred harder music, but the quality of the songs and his voice really gripped me. Plus he and The Hearbreakers looked great.

Tom Petty's preference for a good joint is well-documented (I saw him a few years ago and he and the band were stoned out of their minds, yet played flawlessly with the widest grins imaginable   ;D ;D ;D ), so keeping in mind that in Germany a piece of hash is termed "a piece", I'll salute with: Unrest with a piece!
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Post by: Hörnisse on October 02, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
I'll always remember that day in May 1987 when I met him at the Capitol Plaza Toys R Us of all places.  I was shopping with my then 3 year old daughter and I saw him with his daughter and a large fellow pushing the shopping cart.  I went up to him after I saw another fellow talking with him.  I shook his hand and said "you're great" in my awkwardness.  But I told him how I'd listened to him since his second record and mention the FM movie which made him groan a bit.  But he was so nice and autographed my South Austin Music business card.

He asked if I was going to the show the following night and I said that I couldn't get tickets. (Couldn't afford them at the time was more like it). He turned to the big dude and said in that voice, "get his name and give him some tickets".  Wonderful show with Del Fuegos and Georgia Satellites opening.  R.I.P. to a true rocker and a great guy.  :sad:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2i6z9jd.jpg)
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Post by: uwe on October 02, 2017, 03:10:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM
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Post by: westen44 on October 02, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
My power went out for no reason.  I turned on the shortwave radio I use for weather emergencies and was shocked to learn of the news about Tom Petty.  Quite a loss.  One of those rock stars who never seemed to let fame go to his head. 
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Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2017, 04:03:40 PM
CBS has backtracked.

LAPD clarifies it cannot confirm Tom Petty's death (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lapd-clarifies-cannot-confirm-tom-petty-death/)

Other sources say there has been no brain activity since he was found and that he has been taken off life support.
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Post by: uwe on October 02, 2017, 04:30:41 PM
If they found him not breathing and brain-dead, I don't know what to wish for.  :-\
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Post by: TBird1958 on October 02, 2017, 05:58:33 PM
If they found him not breathing and brain-dead, I don't know what to wish for.  :-\

 A safe trip to a better place, R.I.P. Tom.
Thank you for the great music
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Post by: Jeff Scott on October 02, 2017, 08:37:58 PM
CBS has backtracked.

LAPD clarifies it cannot confirm Tom Petty's death (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lapd-clarifies-cannot-confirm-tom-petty-death/)

Other sources say there has been no brain activity since he was found and that he has been taken off life support.
Sounds like the LAPD has some serious explaining to do.......................
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Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2017, 10:23:40 PM
It's official. He passed at 8:40 PM Pacific Time.
https://www.facebook.com/tompetty/photos/a.191936770904.124578.19703580904/10154978088955905/?type=3&theater
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Post by: dadagoboi on October 03, 2017, 04:56:45 AM
RIP Tom
(https://i.imgur.com/NvC7Eo1.jpg)
Jan, '76.  Village Recorders, WLA.  He could always take a joke.
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Post by: Grog on October 03, 2017, 06:02:37 AM
RIP Mr. Petty.
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Post by: gearHed289 on October 03, 2017, 06:46:17 AM
RIP. Thanks for the music. Way too young.
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Post by: patman on October 03, 2017, 06:55:18 AM
66 is getting way too close to my age
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Post by: Pilgrim on October 03, 2017, 07:47:17 AM
R.I.P.  A fine musician indeed.
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Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 03, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Toronto approx 2008:

" And her name came to me on the wind... guys I said her name came to me on the wind."

We got it eventually.
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Post by: Highlander on October 03, 2017, 12:25:08 PM
Only saw him the once... supporting Lofgren... '78 iirc... I already had the first LP, all the 12's that came from it (still have them), and had the UK copy of the official boot on tape (friend had it; 5 tracks to the US 4 track, which I have too) which I played to death... Dog On The Run, not on that first LP but on the Leg, is still one of my all time fave songs... played it the night I saw them... also played a then unreleased song called I Need To Know...
I just never got round to seeing him again after they took off...
rip Tom... :sad:
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Post by: Rob on October 03, 2017, 03:02:57 PM
RIP
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Post by: Dave W on October 03, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
Local video about how Tom fulfilled a dying woman's wish to meet him a few months ago. She's still hanging on, now he's gone.
http://kstp.com/news/tom-petty-death-twin-cities-laury-myhre-manwarren-terminal-cancer/4623973/?cat=12196
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Post by: Grog on October 04, 2017, 05:46:29 AM
Nate Westgor reflects on Tom Petty

http://www.fox9.com/news/remembering-the-life-and-music-of-tom-petty-in-Minnesota

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Post by: Dave W on October 06, 2017, 08:52:02 PM
I posted this on FB yesterday, someone just uploaded it on 10/3. Worth 20 minutes of your time.

Garry Shandling and Tom Petty both died suddenly of heart attacks at 66 despite no history of heart problems.

https://youtu.be/-3AGlBYyLjo
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Post by: doombass on October 08, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
Nice clip. I could'nt help but noticing his smoking habit. If 4 cigarettes during 20 minutes was his usual smoking rate, that may be some kind of explanation to what happened to him.
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Post by: Nocturnal on October 08, 2017, 08:04:54 PM
R.I.P. Mr Petty. Even as a teenager that was into hard rock/heavy metal, I loved Tom Petty. There was just something special about it to me. This is a big loss IMO.
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Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2017, 04:26:36 PM
Nice clip. I could'nt help but noticing his smoking habit. If 4 cigarettes during 20 minutes was his usual smoking rate, that may be some kind of explanation to what happened to him.

(1) It was, and (2) I'm sure it was.
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Post by: Dave W on October 09, 2017, 09:57:28 PM
The chain smoking couldn't have helped, that's for sure.
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Post by: Dave W on January 19, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
Cause of death released today.

Statement from the Petty family (http://www.tompetty.com/statement)

I had no idea he was in such bad shape.
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Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on January 19, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
A broken hip for 53 tour dates! Holy shit!
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Post by: doombass on January 20, 2018, 07:49:43 AM
Ohh, he masked it well and ironically that eventually led to an early passing.
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Post by: Pilgrim on January 20, 2018, 10:56:02 AM
I think his fans would have preferred him to cancel the tour and stick around for a while.
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Post by: Dave W on January 20, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
I think his fans would have preferred him to cancel the tour and stick around for a while.

No doubt. I think about that interview where he talked about retiring and spending time with his grandkids. He should have done it sooner. His recorded music will be with us either way, but better to disappoint some fans and still be here,
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Post by: westen44 on January 20, 2018, 02:24:37 PM
It's a mistake Tom Petty was never able to learn from, but maybe others can.  I think of the phone call George Harrison gave him in the middle of the night telling him about Roy Orbison's death.  Tom was obviously grateful to still be alive.  Now all of that seems to be beside the point. 
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Post by: slinkp on January 20, 2018, 03:26:41 PM
Tragic. Petty could've learned from Prince. Same drugs! Both performing through pain.
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Post by: Denis on January 21, 2018, 08:47:06 AM
The same basic think happened to Rick Danko. Bad car accident in '68 or '69 left him with terrible chronic pain which led to drug addiction and alcoholism.
It cost him his life.
We could do a better job on this issue, I think.
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Post by: uwe on January 24, 2018, 08:23:17 PM
Michael Jackson, Prince, Tom Petty ..., with all due respect you guys need to rethink the free availability/over-prescription of painkillers and their popular (mis)use in the US of A. It's tragic enough if someone dies from a disease or chooses to end his own life, but inadvertently dying from an overdose of self-administered painkillers is bitter.  :-\
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Post by: Dave W on January 24, 2018, 10:22:55 PM
Michael Jackson, Prince, Tom Petty ..., with all due respect you guys need to rethink the free availability/over-prescription of painkillers and their popular (mis)use in the US of A. It's tragic enough if someone dies from a disease or chooses to end his own life, but inadvertently dying from an overdose of self-administered painkillers is bitter.  :-\

Nobody forced them to take these drugs. As sad and tragic as their deaths were, these men were responsible for their own actions.
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Post by: doombass on January 25, 2018, 01:26:59 AM
But the problem the way I see it is when they gradually increase their doses, they are more prone to make bad judgements. Along with availability and big quantities you're more likely to increase the dose, especially when you're in pain. So what if the supply is regulated and limited so you get only what you need within a specific time period? You would know that if you double the dose one day you're left out the next.

Another problem is when dealing with pain and painkillers. Painkillers are often the difference between staying at home taking care of yourself and going to work and make a living despite the pain. Those people prescribing painkillers need to at least bring out their good judgements sometimes. In Tom Petty's case it is obvious to me (though I'm certainly no Medical Doctor) that a broken hip needs treatment and rest as priority, not eating drugs and doing stage shows.
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Post by: Pilgrim on January 25, 2018, 08:58:15 AM
The US has a huge painkiller drug problem, as we all know. Part of the problem is pill mills that crank them out by the thousands for profit. The opiates were pitched and sold to the health care system as safe and unlikely to create addiction. I don't suppose that the big pharma people lied, did they? Surely we can trust them...?

There's a problem with limiting legitimate supplies, too.  Tom Petty isn't going to make a trip to Walgreens every Saturday to pick up 7 pills when he's on tour...or recording out of town. Same for people who travel in business.

You would HOPE that people taking significant numbers of painkillers would have the sense to stay in contact with their doctor or have a family member help them manage the treatment. But we're all adults who want to run our own lives, and that doesn't happen much. And people who have any addictive tendency seem to fall into that trap easily.

I don't have solutions. I lament the situation. Personally, I'm aware of every Tylenol or Advil or Alleve I take, when the last one was, and what my pattern of use is. But I still use them more than I used to.
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Post by: uwe on January 25, 2018, 12:36:16 PM
If there is such a thing as a non-addictive painkiller, I haven't seen it yet. Opium, heroin, morphium, valium, paracetamol, ibuprofen, opiates ... what have you were all once deemed non-addictive, none of them were/are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13olfeD026g

At the last gig I saw him (couple of years ago, but this decade), he was stoned out of his mind, laughing and grinning deliriously through the set, yet never missing a note. I wonder now whether smoking grass or pot was already part of his self-medication that led him to not come around here no more.  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8
Title: Re: Tom Petty
Post by: uwe on January 25, 2018, 12:55:32 PM
Nobody forced them to take these drugs. As sad and tragic as their deaths were, these men were responsible for their own actions.

People do lots of things bad for them if you let them. Still, we use red lights at traffic crossings so they don't run into each other (their fault if they do!), we try to minimize dangerous situations and scenarios though you can't shelter a whole population from every evil or danger without cutting into personal freedoms; I know your libertarian angst, Dave!  :mrgreen: But there is no Amendment - last I heard or read - that guarantees overabundance of painkillers for people who can handle it at the cost of those who can't. Jackson, Prince and Petty probably lived in most ways a more sheltered life than we all do, being the VIPs they were, they could afford expensive doctors ... If that did not save them, why not give curbing supply a thought?
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Post by: 4stringer77 on January 25, 2018, 01:16:18 PM
I don't think the U.S. has exclusivity on overdoses from pain killers. The percentage of famous pop stars hailing from America is a more significant factor than the petty notion that U.S. drug laws are somehow insufficient. As famous and wealthy as they were, they could have acquired what they wanted any place. They might have even stocked up on meds from Mexico, who knows? On the bright side, at least Richard and Kyle Petty haven't left us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6C-e01xh4
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Post by: Dave W on January 25, 2018, 02:53:42 PM
Whether they're overprescribed or not is beside the point. Individual responsibility is the point. You still have the choice to accept or reject medication or other recommended treatment. I'm not condemning these stars, far from it, but I'm not blaming anyone or anything else. Their decisions were their own.
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Post by: uwe on January 26, 2018, 05:57:56 AM
Now don't revert to type, Dave!

(https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1306537814l/697650.jpg)

Or I'll have to!  :mrgreen:

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/froala-image/images%2F1483856142883-1483856234200-angela-davis_lg.jpg)
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Post by: Dave W on January 26, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
...

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/froala-image/images%2F1483856142883-1483856234200-angela-davis_lg.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/6WHRlQn.jpg) (https://imgur.com/6WHRlQn)
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Post by: uwe on January 29, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
(Inquisitively empathetic) Is another one of those refrigerator posters of yore coming back to haunt you, dear Dave? I didn't want to open any old wounds ...  8)

Say what you will about Professor Davis, but she was hot. No one wore the 'fro like she did. If you were gonna do Communism at all, you would have done it under her.
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Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Davis was definitely not my idea of hot.