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Gear Discussion Forums => Guitars Etc. => Topic started by: Grog on September 27, 2017, 06:24:06 AM

Title: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on September 27, 2017, 06:24:06 AM
I just came across a guy on the Gibson Forum asking about an odd guitar. He just purchased a lot of 20 guitars from somewhere in Tennessee. It looked like an early Les Paul prototype like Rob's bass, I referenced his book to be sure & posted a photo. Looks like a rare find!

http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/139368-what-is-this/page__gopid__1883497#entry1883497

(https://i.imgur.com/VRf4wZvl.jpg)
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Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: gearHed289 on September 27, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
Odd inlays. Almost Alembic-like. Cool find!
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Basvarken on September 27, 2017, 07:30:48 AM
Wow! Those inlays are something else.

The six string version that is also featured in my book has a tremelo too. But not a Bigsby.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Granny Gremlin on September 27, 2017, 07:30:53 AM
Great, now I need to go change my shorts.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on September 27, 2017, 08:31:12 AM
I checked to see if there was any reference in "The Modern Era of Les Paul Legacy 1968-2009". There was one example & oddly enough, it was also from Tennessee...........

(https://i.imgur.com/72y6CB8l.jpg)
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Dave W on September 27, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Very odd that these have shown up. Makes you wonder how many there are out there and if these are actually early production instead of prototypes.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on September 27, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
I wonder if it isn't a guitar that one of the employees that worked on the prototypes might have built for himself based on the odd inlays...........
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2017, 01:32:14 AM
The text (in red) in that book speaks of a long scale neck on that bass. But it really is short scale.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2017, 01:38:58 AM
The guitar with the special inlays has a different pickguard and controls.
Shape is different and so is the lay-out of the knobs.
There seems to be no tone selector and no phase switch. And the input isn't on the pickguard.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on September 28, 2017, 08:31:21 AM
I suggested that he contact Walter Carter to see if he has any spin on it.............
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Dave W on September 28, 2017, 10:45:23 PM
Walter Carter would be more likely to know something about these than anyone else. No one currently at Gibson would know... or care.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on October 02, 2017, 09:01:26 PM
Walter Carter answered his request............ I'm not sure that I agree with his answer..........

"i sent pics to mr carter and he said that he did not know what it was buy he was sure that it was not a gibson. not what i was hoping for but a great sounding and playing guitar."
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2017, 10:24:59 PM
His answer puzzles me too.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Basvarken on October 02, 2017, 10:51:10 PM
Disappointing
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on October 03, 2017, 05:58:25 AM
A number of years ago when he was still with Gruhn's Guitar, I sent him an email asking him how many 20/20's he thought were manufactured. His answer was that he had only seen two & he thought around 12. The consensus here was somewhere just under 100. I regard him as one of the leading living historians on Gibson Guitars, but some of the obscure things we discuss here may be too odd for even him............... I don't see any reason why anyone would copy that guitar, it would be interesting to know who it was made for. This may be a dead end, time will tell..........
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Dave W on October 03, 2017, 09:36:52 PM
I wonder if any of the old Kalamazoo folks still with us would know.
Title: Re: Les Paul Low Impedance Guitar Prototype.
Post by: Grog on October 04, 2017, 05:02:25 AM
I wish I still had a contact there. Most of the former workers that would know are getting up there in the years. A lot of history will soon be lost forever.