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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Basvarken on April 26, 2017, 05:56:18 AM
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Very rare. Looks to be in good shape.
https://reverb.com/item/5036328-incoming-stock-greco-tb900-1977-sunburst-super-rare
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OK, but can't you get an actual Gibson for that much? Granted not a II, and not 60s/70s (which this looks like, but isn't either), but still.
I shoulda bought so much more stuff back in the day when I had disposable income and prices were half. And that was only like 10-15 years ago.
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Greco TBIIs are rare as hen's teeth.
And chances on finding a sixties Gibson TBII are as close as finding the Holy Grail. (and would cost about 8 times as much)
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Greco Thunderbirds were selling for about $7-800 when I bought mine a few years back, when you could find one. Have they gone up, or is the seller overly optimistic?
Gibsons from the '60s aren't very hard to find, it's just that the sellers usually want way too much for them.
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A Greco Thunderbird with two humbuckers (TB IV), yes. But a Greco Thunderbird with just one humbucker (TB II) just doesn't pop up that often.
As for Gibson TBII; only 713 were made. I don't know how many survived, but I don't really see them very often...
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I get that. And I know a lot of folks really lust after the IIs vs the IVs (when it comes to the Gibsons), but I ain't one of those and neither is this bass (it's 80s not 60s); it IS a knock off. Granted, a very well done and well regarded knock off, but still. I care not how rare it is (and I'd be surprised if very many people do). My barf-camo EBhO was also rare, and likewise not a PoS (set neck), still ain't worth nothing. Granted, demand plays a big part here and the Greco TBirds are much more desirable, but most people will take a modern Gibson TBIV over the Greco TBII for less money; hell even Orvilles are cheaper than that if you must have nickel/chrome hardware - again, that is the IVs vs the IIs, but not that many people give a damn - all it takes is 1 passionate person to hit the BIN however, so fair enough for the seller to try; it's not an outlandish price, just seems a bit high.
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How much? Seems to have disappeared.
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1.3K and change IIRC
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It's gone. Not relisted under another title, it's nowhere in Greco basses on Reverb.
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1.3K and change IIRC
Crazy. I paid less than three times that for my '64 five years ago. Unbroken, with case and shipping.
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Reverb keeps listings in their DB for a really long time, but give you no easy way (via the site itself) to find them (the price guide is just date/price stats, which is stupid because you can't tell if prices are fluctuating due to condition/included accessories or an actual trend). BUT you can find them using google.
... Couldn't find the girl we're discussing (it may take a few days before the google bots find the new link after the listing ends) but here is another one from 3 months ago, ended without sale at a lower price - $999 which seems to me to be the top end of about right:
https://reverb.com/ca/item/4213600-greco-thunderbird-bass-sunburst
So not THAT rare (it's not the same one -nice shiny chrome on the pup vs tarnished chrome/nickel on the girl in the OP)
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one pickup Bird.... great!!!
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I would gladly sell my Grecobird for $1300. It would take a bit more to get my '64 away from me.
;D
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When I google for Greco TB900 (the one humbucker model) I get two hits a Reverb. Both for 1500 euro. One is from two years ago and the other 16 days ago. Both sold.
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WOW. All I can say is, dem prices high and apparently there are some hardcore Greco fans in the old country. I wonder if part of the reason for that is that a real TBird is even more expensive over there than over here (always were even when new; import) so they are also rarer, which ups the value of alternatives of high quality like Greco, but only in that region. That would explain why the US based ones aren't getting the same prices. Note to self: buy Grecos local and sell in Germany/Poland when visiting.
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From a sellers stand point it is the land of the hopeful.
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From a sellers stand point it is the land of the hopeful.
And we are the home of the fee and the land of the blave....
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When I google for Greco TB900 (the one humbucker model) I get two hits a Reverb. Both for 1500 euro. One is from two years ago and the other 16 days ago. Both sold.
Keep in mind that when something sells on Reverb, only the last asking price shows. It won't show whether or not there was a Make Offer button, and if it sold for less, you won't see the final sale price.
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Really? I thought it did show that.... huh, that's silly.
Anyway, it turns out I had the listing for the Greco in the OP still open on my livingroom comp - ask was US$1,343.65 (+135.49 shipping to NA; $50-65 in EU). Located in France.
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Question:
What makes a thunderbird II special? Or any different than turning the volume down on the bridge pickup on a Thunderbird IV?
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The single pickup is in a P-esque 'sweet spot' vs bridge position + no second pickup (and it's added load) means the tone will not be the same as the neck pickup on a IV, regardlass of the volume setting.
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Really? I thought it did show that.... huh, that's silly.
Anyway, it turns out I had the listing for the Greco in the OP still open on my livingroom comp - ask was US$1,343.65 (+135.49 shipping to NA; $50-65 in EU). Located in France.
I just looked at the listing for the EB-0 I bought late last year. It had been reduced from $1250 (or $1295, can't remember which) to $1095. I made an offer for substantially less than that, since it had been listed for two years, and they accepted. Yet the only price shown is $1095.
Point is, we don't know whether the two Rob found at €1500 actually sold at that price.
This one disappeared entirely from the site, so I suspect the seller either sold it outside of Reverb or changed his mind and pulled it.
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Keep in mind that when something sells on Reverb, only the last asking price shows. It won't show whether or not there was a Make Offer button, and if it sold for less, you won't see the final sale price.
As far as I know, it's the same on eBay. I often see "best offer accepted", but no indication of what that offer was. I like Reverb. WAY lower fees than the bay. Not as much traffic, but when it comes to bass guitars, it's a pretty niche market anyway and the right people are looking.
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As far as I know, it's the same on eBay. I often see "best offer accepted", but no indication of what that offer was. I like Reverb. WAY lower fees than the bay. Not as much traffic, but when it comes to bass guitars, it's a pretty niche market anyway and the right people are looking.
True. But on eBay, you can get a rough idea by doing an advanced search of sold listings of the model, and sorting the results by price. E.g., an item that shows $700 and best offer accepted might be shown as less than one that sold at a straight $600. Of course it only works if there's more than one recent sale.
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You can do the same in the Reverb price guide. If you know the date an item sold, you can ross-reference the price in the chart they show you.
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I bought my Greco II for $750 last summer, with case, shipped I believe. I really love it, and god knows I can't afford an actual Gibson TB-II. I'm going to try picking another up some day, but only if I can get it for around the same price. I actually was in discussions with the guy for that one listed on Reverb down in Tacoma, but I had some other things come up. The one in the OP is real nice and clean, and while they aren't common, $1300 is a bit...steep.
By the way, the one form the OP IS back up on Reverb, same price:
https://reverb.com/item/5201592-greco-tb900-1977-japan-super-rare?
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Wait: is that a nickel pup but chrome bridge? Mod or just fashion faux pas at the factory?
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Wait: is that a nickel pup but chrome bridge? Mod or just fashion faux pas at the factory?
I believe they came that way from the factory. At least, that's the same as what mine features.