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Title: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2017, 10:42:02 PM
At least they're not asking a million bucks for it (https://www.gbase.com/gear/gibsson-les-paul-standard-1959-sunburst)
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: OldManC on February 20, 2017, 12:23:20 AM
I wonder if it's a consignment or if they paid Ace $500k and that's their retail. You never know, some rich KISS nerd may just go for it.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: gearHed289 on February 20, 2017, 09:22:09 AM
As far as I know, Ace sold it years ago. Not sure if he bought it back at some point.

EDIT - http://www.acefrehleylespaul.com/TheFrehleyBurst.html
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 20, 2017, 11:07:24 AM
Same guy owns most of Felix Pappalardi's old gear. If I had to guess, he doesn't really want the guitar to sell.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Alanko on February 21, 2017, 07:12:33 AM
I would expect it to be worth significantly less for having previously been owned by Ace Frehley.  ???
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 21, 2017, 07:30:14 AM
Even the reproductions go for almost ten large new so somebody must be digging Ace.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-custom-ace-frehley-59-les-paul-electric-guitar?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CMyS44azodICFVtMDQodw98Eeg&kwid=productads-adid^156717928496-device^c-plaid^459119881152-sku^J20178000001000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2017, 11:28:33 AM
I would expect it to be worth significantly less for having previously been owned by Ace Frehley.  ???

 :mrgreen:

I felt the same way about Sheryl Crow's basses that were consigned at Willie's American Guitars in St. Paul. They might have had Kid Rock's DNA on them.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: amptech on February 21, 2017, 11:22:40 PM
:mrgreen:

I felt the same way about Sheryl Crow's basses that were consigned at Willie's American Guitars in St. Paul. They might have had Kid Rock's DNA on them.

You'd be better off with Johnny Winter's beard! 
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Dave W on February 22, 2017, 12:34:37 PM
You'd be better off with Johnny Winter's beard!

True. But it sold for $1400. at auction. I'd rather buy a bass or two.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: OldManC on February 24, 2017, 03:34:21 PM
Considering its provenance, the amount of albums it was used for (and when), and its status as Ace's #1 of all time, it sounds like one of the few holy grail Les Pauls out there that do command that kind of insane money.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Alanko on March 02, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
Considering its provenance, the amount of albums it was used for (and when), and its status as Ace's #1 of all time, it sounds like one of the few holy grail Les Pauls out there that do command that kind of insane money.

I dunno. Owning Ace's Les Paul would be like owning the grill the first Big Mac was made on, whereas owning Kossoff or Green's Les Paul would be like owning the knife of a famous chef. Neither is inherently bad, but I just don't feel a lot of heart and soul in Kiss' music or, if it is there, it takes a back seat to putting on a good show for teenagers and making lots of money. Chuck Berry riffs + cartoon space warrior makeup and clothes + pyrotechnics + merchandise, rather than soulful blues licks cribbed from Albert King and the like, delivered with exquisite technique, poise and control. I find Kiss' music inherently disposable and intentionally non-cerebral, and to that end they do it very well. Unfortunately it means I regard Ace's Les Paul in the same light as one of Gene's axe basses with fake blood splatter congealed on the back.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: OldManC on March 02, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
I never said you would pay it, I said the guitar itself would probably command a great deal of money. It's an amazingly beautiful '59 LP that was owned by a well known rock star and used on multiple albums during the prime of a band that you don't like, but who obviously were liked by enough people not named Alanko to have an ongoing career spanning 40+ years. Your feelings about the band (or mine, or anyone else's on this board) wouldn't even play into it. I wouldn't pay that much for that guitar either, but that's because A: I'm not primarily a guitar player, and B: I don't have that kind of money to blow on a trophy piece no matter how stellar a guitar it is, and C: I'm not that kind of collector. But there are people our there who are all those things. It's those people I was referring to.
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 03, 2017, 10:43:57 AM
Sounds rich to my ears  8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM1P5H6i0Gk
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Highlander on March 03, 2017, 05:39:34 PM
All yours George... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ace Frehley's 1959 Les Paul FS
Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2017, 06:16:59 PM
Come on, George, you'd buy it if you won the lottery.