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Gear Discussion Forums => Guitars Etc. => Topic started by: the mojo hobo on October 06, 2016, 08:40:56 AM

Title: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: the mojo hobo on October 06, 2016, 08:40:56 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-2017-firebird-zero-electric-guitar
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 06, 2016, 11:04:54 AM
It's a reversed reverse but with a set neck.  ;D

I've seen a couple of discussions at the MLP forum. One guy already has one and really likes it.

Poplar body, maple neck, not traditional. I don't care for the looks. But it's a Gibson, made in USA for $500 bucks. How bad can it be?
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Basvarken on October 07, 2016, 04:55:28 AM
Greco already did that 25 years ago!

(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--uSWocPMp--/a_exif,c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_75,w_226/v1421177828/wmeleir30tmmp0tshf2l.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Alanko on October 07, 2016, 01:53:00 PM
I'm not sure the T-bird design works simply flipped like that. I quite like Fret King's Europa/Esprite design, but they are scarce and have some bewildering pickup setups (or plain Jane Fender types).

(http://www.chorder.com/images/reviews-articles/17123.jpg)

(http://cdns3.gear4music.com/media/3/34286/1200/preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on October 07, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
Yeah, the cuttaway is kinda stupid when it's on the wrong side.   ... on the plus side, I guess it makes for easier lefty conversions.
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 07, 2016, 02:45:25 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the idea came from that Greco.

Despite looking odd, it ought to sell well, at least for awhile.
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 07, 2016, 06:06:23 PM
It's also smaller (and lighter)

(http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=162960&d=1474505220)
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: 66Atlas on October 10, 2016, 10:17:24 AM
I always like Spector's take on it.

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/dtkdemongene/db_k-HRC_Miami_Nikki_Sixx__Motley_C.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 22, 2016, 10:44:55 AM
Close-up of the finish, from a thread at MLP.

(http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u461/spectraldomination/IMG_2375_zps5p4fatvo.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: dadagoboi on October 22, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Close-up of the finish, from a thread at MLP.

(http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u461/spectraldomination/IMG_2375_zps5p4fatvo.jpg)

Wow, are they using waterbase through a garden hose with the orange peel nozzle?
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 23, 2016, 09:53:56 PM
Wow, are they using waterbase through a garden hose with the orange peel nozzle?

Looks like it. Or maybe it was just run through a Ryobi pressure washer they picked up on seasonal clearance from Home Despot.

From MF: "The Firebird Zero features a nitrocellulose finish, with a new Nitro Light Gloss for the body and a Nitro satin finish for the neck." Okay, Henry, if you say so.

I have nothing against a textured finish, the old Musicman SUB series had it, it was well done and very durable. OTOH this wasn't meant to be textured, and it looks awful.
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Alanko on October 24, 2016, 04:52:53 AM
Nothing in that images looks like an instrument of quality to me, ultimately. If that thing had 'Stagg' written on the headstock then I would not be surprised at all. The random placement of the generic-looking knobs and switch, the anonymous black humbuckers dangling in their frames and the half acre of black 'goff' pickguard. People had guitars like that when I was in high school, during the peak Nu-Metal boom. It looks like something I would find lurking in the pawn shops round here, between the Marlin Sidewinders and the Westone Thunders; some unloved stab at metal aesthetics churned out somewhere in the 3rd world in the 1980s and refinished by a bored teenager with rattle cans in their garage. An unloved, obsolete bedroom project.

These aren't retailing in the UK yet, but Musician's Friend are quoting £433 GBP as a direct conversion of the US retail price. Given that the pound is pretty borked at the moment I'm guessing these are cheap instruments in the US?
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: 66Atlas on October 24, 2016, 04:43:46 PM
I would expect better results from a 4 year old finger painting the guitar.
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Dave W on October 24, 2016, 09:50:55 PM
Alan, they're $499. here.
Title: Re: Non-reverse, reverse-reverse, or what?
Post by: Basvarken on October 25, 2016, 12:46:42 AM
If that thing had 'Stagg' written on the headstock then I would not be surprised at all.

If it were a Stagg, the finish would look better.
The wood would be crap. But at least they know how to apply a finish.