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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: veebass on September 04, 2016, 12:46:48 AM
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Uwe liked a few pics I posted last season of the local reptiles, so I thought I would start a thread for him . I'll add as they start to appear with the start of spring. All welcome, of course.
Today, our 4 metre Carpet Python reappeared. She is holes up behind a pot a a few feet from the backdoor soaking up the warmth from the concrete. My wife was less than impressed. The snake is still there as I type. I am hoping she will decrease our Bandicoot population tonight as they are tearing our lawn to pieces!
(http://i68.tinypic.com/5xn8mq.jpg)
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Out and about in the sunshine this morning- coming under increasing domestic pressure to relocate this snake.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2zthd9k.jpg)
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:mrgreen:
Wimmin can be heartless that way.
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My wife would probably phone me from a motel, instructing me that the snake would have to leave before she made any appearance on the premises. Really.
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So? Any news from the wife-serpent conflict? Keep us posted!!!
(http://www.bildergipfel.de/images/T/ART40627/lucas-cranach-d-a-eva-detail-eva-und-die-schlange-1528.jpg)
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That's a good lookin snake!
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Purdy little crawler, rodent control has never been more attractive.
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Embarrassingly, I must confess that I had to google Bandicoot. :-[
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You're not alone! And I'm still not clear whether he means the marsupial
(https://www.steveparish-natureconnect.com.au/wp-content/uploads/SPD219234-Edit-copy.jpg)
or the rodent
(http://taibif.org.tw/eemwiki/images/f/f8/Bandicota_indica.jpg)
The python probably has the same views on the subject as in this joke here:
The little girl with pony tails and a slight lisp enters the pet shop proclaiming: "Sfffir, I'd like to buy a baby bunny!" The shop owner, immediately endeared, bows down: "Would you like a cute little brown one or a cute little white one, honey?" The girl, thinking quickly: "I don't think my pythhhhon givvvesfff a shfffit!"
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Update.
Snake is still here. My wife has relented for the time being as the snake has moved a little further from her constant view. Snake has taken up residence in the pool area- suns herself out in the open for most of the day before retiring to a spot behind the pool pump last two evenings (am guessing for the warmth or as an ambush site or both)- must be still too cool for her to hunt at night, I guess.
Every few hours during the day, the resident birds find her and all gather round (at a safe distance) at screech at her. She seems unconcerned. The laying around in the open during the day seems a bit unusual- you usually don't see them quite so easily in the middle of the day. She appears not to have fed recently (no tell tale bulges) so perhaps she is desperate for a feed.
The Bandicoots I mentioned are indeed marsupials. The ones here are quite big- about the size of a hare. They make quite a mess of our back lawn when they visit. There are quite a lot of them here. They dig holes- not sure whether they are after roots or worms - some mornings up to a hundred holes in the lawn.
I also doubt whether the snake would make a distinction between a Bandicoot and a Rat on the basis of species- the only determinant would be whether she could get the individual concerned down her throat.
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Well, you could always give it a name and adopt it?!
It is highly commendable that your wife has not brought up the lingering subject of a new handbag with snakeskin pattern yet. That might create real conflicts of interest.
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Well, you could always give it a name and adopt it?!
It is highly commendable that your wife has not brought up the lingering subject of a new handbag with snakeskin pattern yet. That might create real conflicts of interest.
I think it has adopted us- pretty sure this one has been around for a few years.
I hope that doesn't come up. I would have to fall back to the "all Australian reptiles are protected" argument. My boots are Alligator but my son has a pair of snake skin ones.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/sc8kmc.jpg)
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100 holes in the yard?! It's time to go get some more snakes to help her out..
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n614/tlkroon/d9ed7c08-40a6-44f4-b72e-8297227a1bf9_zpsv02bz6rt.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/tlkroon/media/d9ed7c08-40a6-44f4-b72e-8297227a1bf9_zpsv02bz6rt.jpg.html)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZnpdomkKAg
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I know Uwe is after some more reptile photos.
This is the best I can do at present, apparently the story is true.
For those not familiar with Tiger Snakes they are usually listed in the top ten venomous snakes in the world (including sea snakes).
(http://www.skynews.com.au/content/dam/skynews/culture/offbeat/2016/12/19/skynews_1122397374.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/skynews.img.1200.745.jpeg)
http://www.skynews.com.au/culture/offbeat/2016/12/19/tiger-snake-wraps-around-christmas-tree.html?ref=BP_LINKLIST_features-list_SKY_OFFBEAT_tiger-snake-wraps-around-christmas-tree_191216
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Das ist schön. :mrgreen:
All it wanted to do is bid a merry Chrisssssassssstmasssssssss!!! "Jingle coil, jingle coil ...."
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One of this years Dragon hatchlings. He first appeared about a week ago. This morning he was up at a downpipe getting a drink. It has been very hot here.
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You live in a Garden of (reptile) Eden!
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All we get at my house, are Garter snakes, about as big around as my pinky. But I bet it's a ...bit colder than where you are. I'd love to see more interesting wildlife, but I'm glad nothing here is poisonous. (Because I'm the dummy who'd get bit while trying to take pictures of them :rolleyes: )
We have Moles, our lawn looks terrible because of all the holes and tunnels everywhere, so all we need is to send your guy to "summer camp" up here, and we'd be fine!
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You live in a Garden of (reptile) Eden!
Yes, it lovely here.The wild life is fantastic. We have at least four species of Dragons- the Eastern Water Dragon (the juvenile one pictured), Angle Headed Forest Dragon, Bearded Dragon and very occasionally The Frilled Neck Lizard. I will try and get some pics of some of them over time.
One down side is that we have now had several reports of Estuarine Crocodiles a little further south than here this summer. The "normal southern limit is generally regarded as about 500 k north, but over the previous two summers several were caught about 100K north of here.
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Saw this on the news a fews days ago. I wonder if orange aligator tastes like chicken too.
(http://hips.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/orange-alligator-1486662806.jpg)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/02/10/orange-alligator-south-carolina/97736352/
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Saw this on the news a fews days ago. I wonder if orange aligator tastes like chicken too.
(http://hips.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/orange-alligator-1486662806.jpg)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/02/10/orange-alligator-south-carolina/97736352/
Curry
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Any reptile meat I have eaten tastes unremarkable, not disgusting or anything, just unremarkable. Old rule: The more exotic something looks, the less exotic the taste. Mammals generally have the most individual taste.
I once ate (fruit-eating) bat in Africa, that had a memorable taste, very much of the wild.
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And in today's reptile news, ...or are you just happy to see me? (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/young-thief-captured-pet-shop-9809857)
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The reptile-loving juvenile delinquent should have been made aware that there are snake species that eat other snakes - but then perhaps that was part of his plan, that constricting muscle strength is one of nature's many wonders and puts Madam Palm and her five sweet daughters to shame.
(http://s3.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/brown-snake-eats-python-viral-video.jpg)
It wasn't until comparatively recently that I learned that constrictor snakes don't suffocate their prey, but actually apply so much pressure to the body surface that all muscles - including the heart one - can no longer function. The prey dies because its heart stops beating due to compression not because of lack of oxygen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeju1nPWczM
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The reptile-loving juvenile delinquent should have been made aware that there are snake species that eat other snakes - but then perhaps that was part of his plan, that constricting muscle strength is one of nature's many wonders and puts Madam Palm and her five sweet daughters to shame.
(http://s3.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/brown-snake-eats-python-viral-video.jpg)
It wasn't until comparatively recently that I learned that constrictor snakes don't suffocate their prey, but actually apply so much pressure to the body surface that all muscles - including the heart one - can no longer function. The prey dies because its heart stops beating due to compression not because of lack of oxygen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeju1nPWczM
Yes I saw the story about the Eastern Brown eating the Carpet Python in Brisbane that you pictured.
I thought it remarkable at the time because we generally think of Eastern Browns eating small mammals and Red Bellied Blacks and the related King Browns eating other reptiles. People will often say if you have a big red bellied Black around you won't have Eastern Browns. Red Bellied Blacks are nowhere near as venomous or likely to bite as eastern browns. Goes to show it may just be a question of which one thinks it can eat the other.
Red Bellied Black eating an eastern Brown.
(http://www.theworkshops.qm.qld.gov.au/Find+out+about/Animals+of+Queensland/Reptiles/Snakes/Common+and+dangerous+species/~/media/Images/Find%20out%20about/Animals/Reptiles/Snakes/Common%20and%20dangerous%20species/pseudechis-porphyriacus-1.jpg?w=300&h=225&as=1)
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I guess - like often in life - you gotta be there first! Once your opponent's head is in your mouth, it's a matter of patience.
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My family surprised me for my birthday recently with this Estuarine Crocodile strap. Good length at 1.5 metres.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Qz0AAOSwDuJWxrZ9/s-l1600.jpg)
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Hopefully from a farm!!!
But I have to admit that my oldest guitar strap - mid-seventies - is from a python skin we brought with us from Zaire and that was a kill in the wild. I feel guilty. Some missionary my parents had invited for dinner gave it to us - I'm not sure whether his profession still let him hold a grudge against snakes after that little apple incident in paradise quite a while ago.
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Hopefully from a farm!!!
But I have to admit that my oldest guitar strap - mid-seventies - is from a python skin we brought with us from Zaire and that was a kill in the wild. I feel guilty. Some missionary my parents had invited for dinner gave it to us - I'm not sure whether his profession still let him hold a grudge against snakes after that little apple incident in paradise quite a while ago.
Most definitely farmed. Comes complete with the farm's Queensland Department of Environment and Heritage Protection Wildlife Farming Licence Number.
Australian native animal products are very heavily regulated.
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In that case my outrage scales back to normal. :mrgreen:
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Had a visitor this week. Quite a large individual. I suspect looking for a place to lay eggs. They do so each year on our property. Occasionally we save lost hatchlings from the pool.
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It's probably asking to give it some neck!
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I never knew you could cross-breed a turtle with a snake. :o
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And a frog: Look at that head!
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I never knew you could cross-breed a turtle with a snake. :o
These are the commonest fresh water turtles in eastern Australia and so are unremarkable to us. They are often called Snake Necked Turtles or Long Neck Turtles unsurprisingly.
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Hi gus, I have been ignoring this thread, not knowing if it was about herpology or David Icke. Anyway, carry on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJIJzmcc4MY
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Canada has no noteworthy reptiles to speak of in any case, nuff said. :popcorn:
Or they died long ago from Nickelback overexposure.
(http://www.skynews.com.au/content/dam/skynews/culture/offbeat/2017/05/13/skynews_702015319.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/skynews.img.1200.745.jpeg)
http://www.skynews.com.au/culture/offbeat/2017/05/13/statuesque-dinosaur-fossil-unveiled-in-canada.html
I'm joking, Jake, that is a cracker of a fossil! Will give the intelligent design folks something to chew on.
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Dude, you underestimate the power of conviction that the human mind may summon - they've already rationalised it away as us having co-existed.
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Until the flood came along and they didn't fit on the ark of course. I've been there. In 1979, I worked in a Stihl depot (the chainsaw and tool maker). They had the habit of mostly hiring Jehova's Witnesses because they were non-union (no point in asking for higher wages if the end of the world is near, right?) and while my Jehova's Witnesses colleagues were nice and gentle people, it was kind of hard arguing evolution with them. And as at that time I was still contemplating to study biology, I was quite adamant about evolution too. :mrgreen:
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....it was kind of hard arguing evolution with them.
Lewis Black does an excellent bit on this. He said he keeps a small fossil in his pocket for just such an occasion so he can whip it at them, forcing them to duck.
He admits it's tough to argue with people that think The Flintstones is a documentary. ???
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Not sure whether you guys know about an Australian treasure called Tim Minchin. Here is a little clip from one of his shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAezEgYFeE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAezEgYFeE)
Forgotten how to insert a Youtube clip here, so just put in the URL.
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The ability of human beings to ignore all evidence, including their own senses, and believe stuff that's demonstrably untrue, is stunning.
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Not sure whether you guys know about an Australian treasure called Tim Minchin. Here is a little clip from one of his shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAezEgYFeE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAezEgYFeE)
Forgotten how to insert a Youtube clip here, so just put in the URL.
I like the "theory of gravity"-part. :mrgreen:
That said, I don't have an issue with those people mentioned who believe that evolution is "administered" by some higher power, there is no proof for or against that and, after all, evolution is a mechanism not an explanation to all things. I always thought that the story of creation as told in the Bible was a nice simplified allegory of explaining how man's existence came about to people who could not have possibly grasped the concept of evolution. Going all Catholic about it and eventually grudgingly admitting "Ok, ok, that is maybe the way it works, but still somone needs to be in charge!" is ok in my book. To their credit, they did not take as long incorporating it into their beliefs - mind you, the Catholic Church has always been great at incorporating outside influences, just look at that decidedly pagan Christmas tree or the likewise Easter bunny (actually a hare) - as they did with accepting that the earth isn't flat. Flexibility in places is good for longevity. :mrgreen:
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Remarkable how those kangaroos hopped all the way from Australia to get to the ark.
The ark story was floating around ancient Babylonia at least 1500 years before Genesis was written. Likewise with many other O.T. stories.
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Two hours into his debate with scientist and television personality Bill Nye, Creation Museum Founder Ken Ham was asked whether anything could make him abandon his belief in an Earth less than ten thousand years old. “As far as the word of god is concerned, no, no one is ever going to convince me that the word of god is not true,” Ham said.
The central hypothesis of creationism, in the eyes of the creationist, can never be disproven, no matter the quality, quantity, or immutability of the available information. And where science is unable to answer a question–such as the nature of consciousness, creationism provides an answer that encourages you to stop looking.
So there you have it.
You're in, or you're out....
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It mystifies me why young earth creationists such as Ken Ham get so much attention. He does not speak for the millions of old earth creationists who don't believe in his nonsense. Years ago I used to enjoy watching a show on Trinity Broadcasting Network every Saturday after work called Reasons to Believe. It was hosted by a Canadian astrophysicist who mostly talked about old earth creationism. Eventually, young earth creationists must have protested so much the show got cancelled. At least that's my understanding. Ross even had a political science Ph.D. on there who simplified things by putting Ross's terminology into common language. I found it all very helpful and interesting. It was a unique TV show. I haven't seen anything else comparable to it since then (about twelve years ago or so.)
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The ark story was floating around ancient Babylonia at least 1500 years before Genesis was written. Likewise with many other O.T. stories.
To be fair, that actually gives it more weight, vs automatic discredit. The OT is the Reader's Digest condensed version of Babylonian myth, including the Epic of Gilgamesh (deluge/flood) as well as the creation story, with some extra bits added (and curious as to which bits were left out).
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3yUhISY1czI/hqdefault.jpg)
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Two hours into his debate with scientist and television personality Bill Nye, Creation Museum Founder Ken Ham was asked whether anything could make him abandon his belief in an Earth less than ten thousand years old. “As far as the word of god is concerned, no, no one is ever going to convince me that the word of god is not true,” Ham said.
The central hypothesis of creationism, in the eyes of the creationist, can never be disproven, no matter the quality, quantity, or immutability of the available information. And where science is unable to answer a question–such as the nature of consciousness, creationism provides an answer that encourages you to stop looking.
So there you have it.
You're in, or you're out....
Bill Nye, the failed-standup-comedian guy? The "science educator" who thinks there are 67 genders? He's not a scientist. But he's the perfect guy to debate Ken Ham. Two charlatans.
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I always felt that in this kind of "debate" 2 out of 3 falls in a steel cage was just as telling.
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Hello everyone,
Ducking out of the darkness!
You have caught my attention with this reptile talk.
My daughter bought a bearded dragon about a year ago and I never realized a reptile could have so much personality!
He comes when you call him, enjoys human company, likes to be touched, and does a lot of head banging.
I went to the local reptile show and see these people with giant monitor lizards that claim they are just like dogs.
Crazy world.
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Welcome back, John. :toast:
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Reptiles often get the short end regarding their personalities and general intelligence.
I had a tortoise that I bought when it was only a month or two old and kept for 15 years, until it got too big to manage in my apartment.
They may be slow, but they certainly know what they want. She would come out of her house and literally hunt me down to get fed.
She'd come up behind me and nip at my feet until food came from the sky! ;D
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An Old Testament tortoise then, the shell boggles. :mrgreen:
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Can any of you tell me what this is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtlViRJwHg4
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Without knowing where that was taken I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's a tegu.
(http://img05.deviantart.net/68bf/i/2011/269/7/a/leather_puppy___tegu_lizard_by_rushandruleit-d4b19vp.png)
Apparently they can make an excellent pet.
https://pethelpful.com/reptiles-amphibians/why-tegus-are-the-best-pet-lizards (https://pethelpful.com/reptiles-amphibians/why-tegus-are-the-best-pet-lizards)
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That's what I thought too (sometimes also "teju"). In the last 15 years or so so they have become popular as pets because they are not very demanding or particular nor do they need too much heat/sun (some subspecies can even hibernate in European climate). The species itself was only discovered relatively late but became popular quickly because - similar to iguanas (but it is closer related to skink lizards) - it breeds well on farms (for its leather and its meat). They are also rather peaceful, so this one must have been provoked or goaded with food.
The issue people get with them is that - similar to monitors - they grow and grow and grow, becoming ultimately too large for people that don't have the space. 5 feet head to tailend is not unheard of.
They are from South America, but if one escaped in the warmer parts of the States or Europe, it would have a good chance of survival. And of course, undeterred by recent Supreme Court rulings and US Immigration Laws, they are already here ...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article100938872.html
Anything will breed and live happily ever after in Florida, polar bears maybe excepted.
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Just like owning a dog
https://youtu.be/VeNx07qEElw (https://youtu.be/VeNx07qEElw)
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Is this Uwe at his new place?
https://youtu.be/0Bno-qsnbUA (https://youtu.be/0Bno-qsnbUA)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Pko018K.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Pko018K)
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:popcorn:
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:mrgreen:
Some reptiles actually like to be patted and fondled ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-zGIS-WWZQ
... but - even from the same species - not every individual animal. My black iguana which I have had for 15 years or so recognizes me and is at ease in my presence (not really in anbody else's except my wife's), but it doesn't like to be patted or taken out of the terrarium - on a good day he can just about handle it, but it puts him under stress so I avoid it where I can.
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I read the issues with large reptiles is having the room and temperature control for them, yet alone when they poop it stinks up the house.